Trumpet Basics (2): Buzz with the Mouthpiece

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  • @1321rattlehead
    @1321rattlehead 12 років тому +1

    thanks for the help! iv been a guitar play for 15 years and want to learn the trumpet. your videos have been very helpful and motivating:-) keep it up!!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  13 років тому

    my pleasure. Glad they've been helpful! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  12 років тому

    If you're just starting out, my best advice is don't worry about it! Stick with that C for a while and just get totally comfortable with it. Try going DOWN from that C. The next note down is B (2nd valve only), then Bb (1st valve only), then A (valves 1 and 2), and then Ab (valves 2 and 3). Mess around with those notes instead, keep practicing and buzzing and soon the G above will be no problem. Good luck!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    yep. Also flugelhorn, bugle, over-the-shoulder Rhein horn, or any brass instrument. With French horn though, the mouthpiece is 2/3 upper lip, 1/3 lower lip instead of the 1/2 and 1/2 you'd use on other brass instruments.

  • @roiverte
    @roiverte 13 років тому

    these videos are great. thanks so much for taking the time to do them.

  • @jwalkerj28
    @jwalkerj28 11 років тому

    I brought my mouthpiece down to my tv area and buzzed tv and buzzed and when I went to rehearse wow what a different no struggling to blow bam I am going to keep this up.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    The short answer is yes. I'm not a mellophone player, so it would be a good idea to check w/ someone w/ more expertise on that. If mellophone is more like French horn, the mouthpiece is 2/3 upper lip, 1/3 lower lip, unlike trumpet which is 1/2 and 1/2.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  11 років тому

    7c is a greart starter mouthpiece. Here are some basics:
    The higher the number, the shallower the cup (usually). Shallow cups allow you to play higher more easily, but sacrificing tone quality.
    The deeper the cup, the fatter the tone. Mouthpieces have many different parts that affect the sound and feel.
    There's a chapter in my book explaining all the details about mouthpieces (and 200 pages of other useful stuff). The book is "Sound the Trumpet: How to Blow Your Own Horn."

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    haha! Glad the vid is helping. Yeah, there can be a little spray involved in the buzz. If you're really spattering, consider swallowing before you take the breath before the buzz. Trumpet playing can be kind of messy that way.... :-)

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  13 років тому

    @MingYee1
    It's excellent that you're paying attention to the quality of your buzz sound. Use more air, don't use too much pressure on your lips. Experiment with pressure, volume of air, and anything else and listen carefully. Very best advice: keep practicing and listening carefully and trying things, and be patient. Good luck!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    Depends on what you're playing. If you're a beginner, I'd recommend a Bach 7C or similar size (check out my book for a chart on mpc size comparison). Also in the book is a chapter on mouthpices and how they work. Basically, a shallower cup (the bowl-shaped part of the 'piece) is used for higher playing. Shallower cups sacrifice tone quality, so you want as dep as possible w/o sacrificing range.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    Either way is fine. Mine is actually neutral, neither up or down. The important thing is how it sounds. If you're getting a full, fat buzz, and a good tone on the horn, that's the most important thing.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  12 років тому

    no prob, glad you're liking them. Yeah, the buzz is pretty much the same for mello. You want the lips to be pretty even, top to bottom. yeah, I know it's easier to put one over the other, but it'll help you more if you keep them more or less even.... Good luck!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    nice! Tenor sax is one of my fave instruments and will be my next major instrument purchase.
    advice: keep the air flowing, and keep practicing. Hard to be specific w/o hearing you. Some prominent teachers/players say to avoid buzzing w/o the mouthpiece, but I've found it to be helpful. If you can do it w/ the 'piece, but not w/o, I wouldn't worry too much....

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  12 років тому

    two great questions, thanks for asking. The buzz you hear me do is a result of lots of practice, and is the sound to work for, but at first don't worry about the quality too much. Use lots of air and keep firm at the corners and loose in the middle. You can practice the buzz with just your lips, no mouthpiece or trumpet required, and that will help you when you get to a real horn. There's another video of my on buzzing with just the lips. Check that one out. Good luck!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  11 років тому

    Hi Jay-
    No vids posted on the subject, but there is a comprehensive 'piece guide in my book "Sound the Trumpet: How to Blow Your Own Horn" (I think it's Chapter 2). Covers all aspects of mouthpieces: rim, cup, shank, rim bite, etc., etc.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    thanks for the heads up! Not sure why that's happening. I'll look into it...

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  12 років тому

    tighter corners, faster air, but really, don't worry too much about it. It's much more difficult to get the buzz higher without a mouthpiece or the horn. Use the buzzing for warm up, try some pitch-matching (like w/ a piano or a recording), but for the most part, spend most time on the horn....

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  13 років тому

    @jharnum
    I should mention though, that to get the best performance of the mouthpiece, it should be fitted for the instrument by your local dealer, or at the Monette shop in Portland.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  14 років тому

    @Giallomaster95
    It's tough to diagnose w/o actually seeing you and asking some questions. My best advice is to sit down with a trumpet player in your school and talk to him or her about it. They can probably help you. In the meantime, try this:
    --LOTS of air in
    --lips together like the letter M
    --blow out like you're sneezing, but keep your lips closed as you force out the air. You should get some kind of sound...
    --remember to keep the corner muscles firm and the center loose.

  • @gohito456
    @gohito456 13 років тому

    @jharnum i can do alot with the trumpet and have gotten decently good at it in the 3 years i have been playing. but the promblem is that with this lip issue i seem to tire my embrochure fairly quickly. I like playing the trumpet but i also play the Baritone (euphonium) as a secondary instrument and i dont have a problem fittting my lips in the mouth piece at all. its just when i play trumpet with my embrochure it hurts after a while. Thnx for the help ill try and get a lesson.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  14 років тому

    @Giallomaster95
    Maybe. It's not the braces, though, it's probably because you're more familiar with oboe emboucure. The trumpet is almost opposite. With oboe, everything is focused inward, right? To grip that little reed.
    For trumpet, it's only the corners that are tight, and the center is loose, so it can vibrate like an oboe reed does. Think of the corners of your mouth as the emboucure, and the center of your lips as the oboe reed... or try the following:

  • @SuperHaryboy
    @SuperHaryboy 14 років тому

    thanks this helped a lot !!!!

  • @davidjamessandling
    @davidjamessandling 9 років тому

    well I liked the video, it helped me, I had forgotten how to free buzz after seven years of playing trumpet I forgot how....lol. thanks man I will now proceed to subscribe

    • @JonHarnum
      @JonHarnum  9 років тому

      +Texplays
      Glad to hear it! Welcome to the party. :-)

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  14 років тому

    @kriegdouch
    This is tough to diagnose w/o being in the room w/ you, but try to focus on tight corners of your lips (like you just bit into a lemon), and loose in the middle. Use LOTS of fast air. A low buzz is fine. Might help to use the mouthpiece alone, too. If you can hang with a trumpet teacher or a player who's further along than you that could be a huge help. Another great thing to do is long tones, low range and medium volume, on the horn and forget the buzz. Might help.... Good luck!

  • @Gre874
    @Gre874 11 років тому

    Thank you!! Im in prep band and im trying out for trumpet tomorrow but im really worried because im not good at making the "buzz" i saw both videos and they acctually kind of helped but i forget things fast .-. Any way you can help me remember? :) thanks tho!

  • @lancelottodd
    @lancelottodd 16 років тому

    any tips on picking the right size mouthpiece?

  • @brianalva1
    @brianalva1 13 років тому

    i jus got an elective in band n i picked the trumpet i can form the buzzing n sometimes i jus cant it comes and goes :o

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  13 років тому

    @jhknight17
    Good observation and advice. ANY wind player should read an re-read "Song and Wind," and thanks for telling us about it!

  • @11xxLilyxx11
    @11xxLilyxx11 15 років тому

    im gonna play trumpet for 6th grade band!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  13 років тому

    @ntnumusic
    Sorry it took me so long. I was away for last week. Try starting the buzz with just your lips, then keep buzzing and gently place the mouthpiece over the buzz. That should work. It could be that you need to roll your lips in more. If your buzz is too "big" it might be hard to fit it into that tiny mouthpiece. Lots of air, focused buzz, and as you're buzzing, place the mouthpiece over your buzzing lips. Good luck! Let me know if this helped or we can try something else.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  14 років тому

    @ClueLou :
    Nope. There are some great 'bone vids out there, though. One of my faves is the plunger mute one posted by jazz 'bone master Wycliffe Gordon. I'll post the link below this reply if UA-cam will let me..... Otherwise a quick search will find it. Cheers!

  • @ntnumusic
    @ntnumusic 13 років тому

    Thanks you for your video which helps me a lot. At first I could not make BUZZ because I am not a Western-Language-used person. Now I can make BUZZ imagine saying a M before I make it. But I face a problem now. I can make BUZZ but can not make sound with a mouthpiece, because if I get on the mouthpiece on my mouth it is difficult to even blow air as if somethins stuck there. Could you help me? Thanks a lot!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  16 років тому

    yep, this will also work for 'bone, but your buzz will sound lower, of course. Good luck.

  • @DesEsseints
    @DesEsseints 15 років тому

    Do i necessarily have to force the mouth angles downwards (like the "m" pronunciation) or i may let them face upwards? Mine tend a little bit to go "up" like a very very very small smile

  • @MegaCplayer
    @MegaCplayer 15 років тому

    so will this work for cornet and french horn?

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  14 років тому

    @102gab
    Nope, anybody can use them. The one I use is pretty big, though, and if you're not used to a 'piece that size your endurance will suffer and you'll have to learn to breathe more deeply and put more air into the horn, but the mouthpieces come in many, many styles. The Monette mouthpieces are used by thousands and thousands of players, because they're so good. They are, however, quite expensive, so you should know what you want/need before buying one.

  • @ClueLou
    @ClueLou 14 років тому

    @jharnum cool thanks.
    by the way, how do I sound?

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    I've heard that some people can't get the buzz but can get a sound on the horn. There is some debate amongst players/teachers about using the buzz, but most do use it. Can you get a sound on the horn? Have you tried a lesson w/ a trumpet player?

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    Try to get just the low C to come out w/ these techniques. If that doesn't work, try to work your way down to those low notes stepwise (or chromatically--by half steps) from a higher note.
    These are the best techniques to try first. If those don't work after trying for a week or 10 days of steady practice, let me know and I'll suggest sth else.

  • @Eweyhen
    @Eweyhen 13 років тому

    @gohito456 Bigger instruments have a better tendency to make us play more efficiently. And what I mean by that is that on trumpet you will have a lot easier time getting away with playing the least amount of air as compared to the baritone. Because baritone commands more air to make a tone you have a harder time playing less efficiently(on baritone).
    My personal opinion would to be pick one instrument and stick with it. Second: I would get the book "Song and Wind." Any embouchure "issue" is...

  • @gohito456
    @gohito456 13 років тому

    I am a trumpet player and for some strange reason my embrochure is really wierd!
    i play with almsot no upper lip. my upper lip is over the top of my mouth piece but i still get the normal tone. Should i practice the same way or shud i try and swith my embrochure to the center. When i try and play at center the tone quality suxand i cant go high! plez respond and thanx!!

  • @edquin
    @edquin 16 років тому

    this works for trombone? I play trombone how i have to do it? thanks for the help!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  11 років тому

    don't worry much about the details, just take deep breaths, move the air through the lips, and tighten the corners. Buzzing helps, but it's best if you just play on the horn.... Good luck!

  • @niyapowell99
    @niyapowell99 12 років тому

    is it wrong if our buzz doesn't sound like that and is there anything we can buy to practice the buzz with s we dont buy a trumpet and end up not being right fr it

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  13 років тому

    @gohito456
    this is a serious issue. I'd have to see/hear and talk with you before recommending anything, but my initial reaction is that yes, you should move the 'piece to a more centered position. Best advice is to take a lesson with someone to help you. There are several online options, too, so you can Skype in and get some real-time help. If you do change it, there will be a period of adjustment, for sure. If you haven't been playing long, I'd suggest making the change.

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  13 років тому

    @brianalva1
    it's totally normal for the buzz to come and go as you're figuring it out. Just keep at it, try to do it whenever you think about it through the day (and have a private moment :-) and during your practice. It'll come and you'll be able to do it any time. Good luck! If you have any questions, feel free to post 'em here....

  • @LEFTY91335
    @LEFTY91335 12 років тому

    How do you blow faster air?

  • @darkstarrydia
    @darkstarrydia 12 років тому

    Hi! Im playing the trumpet but i can only get one note and its a C. I cant get my lips tight as i want and the buzzing just comes and gos, i cant control it. Can you please help?

  • @voxomnes9537
    @voxomnes9537 7 років тому

    Is it a problem that I can do a mouthpiece buzz without necessarily being able to do a free buzz?

  • @MarcusLaRue
    @MarcusLaRue 15 років тому

    does anybody know who makes a good intermidiate trumpet

  • @Eweyhen
    @Eweyhen 13 років тому

    @gohito456 probably and air issue. Good luck!

  • @ClueLou
    @ClueLou 14 років тому

    anything on the trombone?

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  12 років тому

    you push it out faster. Imagine trying to force all the air out through the buzz in 1 second. To get it to go out that fast, you have to PUSH it out. That's faster air.

  • @102gab
    @102gab 14 років тому

    Please repond is that mouth peice u have for PRO trumpets players? or for what?

  • @parisz5375
    @parisz5375 8 років тому

    This helped so much but how do you know if you are doing this correctly.Btw are your lips supposed to vibrate lol

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  12 років тому

    nope, not at all. the buzz is more for warm-up purposes. You can work to get it higher, or just not worry about it. Option two is probably better. :-) Spend more time with the horn on your face and save the buzz for a quick warm-up....

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  14 років тому

    UA-cam won't let me post it. :-( Search "Gordon, trombone, plunger" and you'll get it no prob....

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  13 років тому

    @gohito456
    good luck!

  • @JonHarnum
    @JonHarnum  15 років тому

    :-)

  • @shakeitup649
    @shakeitup649 11 років тому

    Hey Jon so I have 7c do the names matter are some numbers harder I don't get it?:/

  • @1321rattlehead
    @1321rattlehead 12 років тому

    my c is an OCTAVE lower, is that bad?