I'm certain the acoustics of mountains and ravines shaped the development of these languages. I wonder if anyone has studied the properties of these languages from a geographic deterministic point of view.
Tashi delek! Thank you for sharing this video, loved it! Unfortunately, your editing tool didn´t allow Tibetan words to manifest in the right ways, so here are the examples you used in the video: 11:49 - བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས། 12:38 - སུམ་རྟགས 12:48 - ཁོང་བོད་པ་རེད། 12:57 - བོད་ལ་ཁོང་ཡོད་རེད། 14:20 - བོད་ལ་ཁོང་འདུག། 14:37 - ཡོད་རེད་ 15:21 - fire མེ་ Greetings Drukmo Gyal
And འདུག for 'tuk (the auxiliary) There is also some debate about whether Tibetan was originally monosyllabic. The prefix consonant clusters may have been (sesqui-)syllables at one point.
I have a book on Old Tibetan that I got from my linguistics program, and they genuinely are such an incredible, albeit very complex, language family. It’s gorgeous to listen to, and has such a wonderful bouncy sound to them haha.
Thanks Juli. I was the one who suggested to research Tibetan for a future video, and I am very pleased with your outcome. I learned many things, and I believe I was right about Tibetan being such and interesting, and fairly unknown language and culture. There is also a long literary tradition (the Epic of Gesar for example) and a lot of untranslated manuscripts. So even such a broad video still leaves a lot of more interesting things to discover. I hope you had as much fun doing it as I did watching it.
I am from Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan. I am Balti and we use the same script when writing the Balti language. Its amazing to see how widely used the Tibetan script is.
First of all. Thank you very much for your effort on this Topic. I am an exile Tibetan and writer in Tibetan language. Here you shared a views on Tibetan language which is generally common Tibetan people’s view. I am not against this. But, if we looked deeply into Tibetan Grammar system and pronunciation of Tibetans and the area where Tibetan language and scripture using on daily basis or for Tibetan Buddhism. Here you can find just some dialects through the history of Tibet. Which is divided into Tibetan farmer languages and Tibetan nomads languages. Through the years of my knowledge. There are no Kham, Amdo and Utsang languages. Because those names are base on area. Not based on language. I mean, base on your view, you can find Amdo language in Bhutan and Utsang.
all Tibetan r so happy to see ur beautiful work n research , thank you madam big respect , new sub, iI am Tibetan born as refugee in India still learn a lot ,
What a gorgeous language! Could you please do a video on Occitan? It's a language spoken from Northern Spain across the South of France into Italy. It sounds like dialect Italian with a French accent and at one time it was the most spoken language in France. It's also called Languedoc, Provençal and Occitano, a language bursting with songs and poems and folk literature.
Bonjorn! I am currently learning its 'sister language' Catalan in Barcelona, but I have also briefly been to southern France. Avignon was the most memorable city. Love and respect to Occitan ❤
@@prathameshdeshpande1668Catalan is the closest language to Occitan, I speak a bit of Catalan and when I visited Toulouse I was delighted to see that I could understand most of the written Occitan. Unfortunately hearing spoken Occitan is becoming less and less common due to the French centralist policies :(
As a Burmese, I love Tibetan language because it's easiest for me after Burmese dialects outside Myanmar. I can understand "Nga" I,me, "Nga tso" we, "re'' is and basic original words like eat,leg,cry,is,you,fire,hand, grandfather, male,....
Trust me you will have a much easier time understanding north East Indian languages, Naga, Mizo, etc. Tibetan would be the hardest for you in actuality.
བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས། Juley😊 Incredible་vlog 👌💖 We speak Ladakhi. We called it Bhoti. I can understand U Tsang & Khams spoken language but Amdo is quite difficult to understand.
I'm from Baltistan which was a part of Tibbat in past . We speaks Balti language which is the branch of tibetan language . I will like to visit Tibbat their culture language and areas looks like us
It took about 300 years to develop Tibetan language because Tibetan emperors was sending Tibetans to study Bhuddhist hybrid Sanskrit in Bhuddhist universities like Nalanda in India. Whole Central administration was involved in this project and there used to be a seperate translation department which includes Bhuddhist scholar from India and Tibetan scholar trained in Bhuddhist hybrid Sanskrit. 🙏🙏🙏
@@tenzindolma2253 I agree with you. In February 1951, three and a half years after the British Raj has left the subcontinent and India was created, India finally trekked up to Tawang, South Tibet and annexed it. The Tibetan Lhasa government protested to India but to no avail. Tawang is the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to the four hundred years old Tawang Monastery. In 1987 India renamed South Tibet to the so-called Arunachal Pradesh and make it a state. Today after seven decades of thuggish Indian rule, South Tibet is restless and India knows it. India reacted by imposing the draconian AFSPA on South Tibet. AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) gives the Indian state the power to detain or killed anyone with impunity. It is a law design to intimidate the local people. AFSPA is imposed on area India deemed 'disturbed', such as South Tibet and Kashmir. Free South Tibet from India.
The biggest beneficiary of Tibet's independence is the United States, while the biggest victim is Tibet itself. He will lose transfer payments from China, become poor, and then be used as an insignificant pawn by the United States in dividing and controlling East Asia.
Tibet is a fascinating place... would love to visit one day... and also Mongolia... where the magic is strong - Tibetan script has to be one of the most beautiful scripts we as a human species have
Thank you Julie!🤗 I can't wait to study Tibetan. I feel it is important because it needs to continue to exist. Right now I am in Nepal visiting my Newari friend. Here they speak many languages, according to my friend. Have you ever done a video about Newari? If yes I say to you, Jo Jo Lapa.😀
Tibetan language and scripts will continue to exist due to huge fundings for it by different governments and INGOs but Newari language and scripts are vulnerable. Newars have many original scripts like Ranjana and Nepal Lipi but most Newari people don't understand as Nepal uses Devanagari and English script to teach in schools
As a Basque I'm pleased to see that Juli has so much appreciation for my language :D I was shocked to learn that Tibetan also has the ergative case, although the language theory she explained (the worldwide Dene-Caucasian language family) doesn't have much consensus among linguists and remains a marginal theory.
Aye ; the fact that ergative exists in 2 languages doesn't mean they are related in any way. There are languages that are related and some have the ergative and others don't... Afaik Tibetan and Chinese are related, Tibetan has the ergative, not Chinese (anymore). Kurdish has ergative, not Persian, while they are related. Hindi has ergative, not Sanskrit (its ancestor !), etc...
Excellent your lecture Julingo👏👏👏, it is a complete work, and your eyes keep me so attentive, I would like to learn right now Tibetan language👍🏼❗️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️
Very cool. I learned a lot. Please note there are quite a few spelling errors in the Tibetan graphics where the vowels are misplaced. For example the “naro” should be over the Ba not the Da in the word for Tibet བོད་. There are others as well. Otherwise great content thank you!
It is interesting how humans have developed different sounds to convey thought . Just taking one sound to convey the greeting , " hello " , and putting that sound , back to back , on an audio stream of every known language would be interesting to and quite possibly sound like a forest full of birds. Thanks for the share mystic woman ! :O)
I loved the sound of the Amado variant, perhaps because of the strong consonant clusters. I found it curious that at times the phonetics reminded me of a mixture of Japanese and Turkish.
@@sonam1959_ Oirats are Mongolian, i doubt that Tibetans from Aldo had close contact with Uygurs(maybe Yellow Uyghurs « Yugur » people who live there near Kokonor) But there are definitely Oirat Mongolian people living there, they belong to Khoshuud tribe also they are known as Deed Mongols(Upper Mongols).
Video is really helpful for people who didn't herd about Tibetan or didn't herd too much. Ortography is really complicated even for native speakers sometimes :D The main problem with ortography in your video is that vowel mark should be placed upper (ghigu, drengbo, naaro) or below (shyabkyu) the root letter. It is very important. For example in your sentence it should looks like that: བོད་ལ་ཁོང་ཡོད་རེད། I saw that you speak "yod-re". The important point is that all prefixes and some suffixes ("da", "sa" and of course the 2nd suffix "sa") are silent, but they could change pronounciation of the vowel - suffix letters "da", "na", "la", "sa" change "a" to "ä", "o" to "ö" and "u" to "ü". So yod.red should be pronounced as "yö-re". Prefix (ALWAYS) or head letter (sometimes) make root letter stronger . Because basically "ga" is more like "ka" with lower tone, only with preffix it becames GA like in word "bGu" (pronounced as GU) - nine. Subscirbed letters (mainly "added ya" and "added ra") could change pronounciation of some root letters. Also there is one difficult matter about tibetan - spelling. But is useless unless you wouldn't like to learn classical tibetan or try to communicate with native speakers. Tibetan ortography hasn't changed for ages, but modern colloqiual grammar is very different from the classical one. For me the classical one sometimes is more simple...
4:55 For reference, 75% intelligibility is the score given for German vs Dutch or Spanish & Portuguese. In truth, Central Tibetan & Khams should be considered as dialects of the same language, as they'd be able to understand each other better than Slovenes & Serbo-Croatian speakers.
I don't know where she got those numbers from. The consensus in the field is that there are multiple dialects WITHIN Central and Khams language families. For example, Central includes three kinds of To, plus Tsang, U, Phanpo, Lhoka, and Kongpo varieties... Khams similarly is a dialect family in and of itself.
Portuguese and Spanish have intelligibility far higher than 75% in written form (about 95%) and a bit higher on spoken form, albeit asymmetrically: Portuguese speakers usually understand Spanish better than the other way around. Portuguese and Spanish are NOT dialects of the same language.
@@sgriggl Source is Tyschenko's algorithm comparing wordlists of European languages. I don't care what the "consensus" is when it's clear that there is enough lexical similarity/mutual intelligibility for these two "languages" to be considered dialects by purely objective means. Linguists (along with natural scientists, especially concerning taxonomy) are infamous for splitting hairs & creating clades where they shouldn't exist. The same academics telling us that Afrikaans & Dutch, Scots & English, Serbian & Croatian, or Galician & Portuguese are "totally different languages bro trust me" when actual speakers recount high levels of intelligibilty in both written & spoken forms are trying to gaslight society in applying the same ridiculous logic to the rest of the world. As a speaker of both Standard German & a German dialect (Schwäbisch) I've always recognized how utterly political these arguments are, especially once I started trying to learn many of these languages myself.
@@Afrologist You are misunderstanding my comment. "She" refers to the YTer. I don't know where she got this 86% number from. And I'm talking about the consensus of linguists who specialize in Tibetic languages.
Speaking about the poetic nature of the language, Tibetan poetic culture is derived from Indian (Sanskrit), classic Sanskrit treatises on poetry like Kāvyādarśa are well known and studied in Tibetan monasteries, and while not many Tibetan lamas currently know Sanskrit, practically all of them can write poetry (also due to the isolating nature of Tibetan and lack of short and long vowel distinction it is much easier than writing Sanskrit poetry). And of course, all traditional Sanskrit metaphors are well known in the Tibetan culture.
@@sankettt Sanskrit is a literary standard. Of course it was based on spoken language around the time when the standard was formed. Much earlier than Pali though 🙃
@@damian_madmansnest go and first search for the meaning of the name sanskrit. sanskrit means refined or perfected. so from which language it is refined? or perfected? It is the Pali language from which it has refined and perfected.
@@sankettt Please don’t insult my intelligence by presuming I don’t know the meaning of the term ‘Sanskrit’ or the history of its development. Pali is a Middle Indo-Aryan language extant from 3rd century BC when it was spoken. The earliest Sanskrit is Vedic Sanskrit which was codified in 17th century BC, about 1400 years before Pali. Therefore, the spoken language that Sanskrit was based on (‘refined’ from) could not have been Pali, but it’s much earlier predecessor.
@@damian_madmansnest sanskrit is no older than BC. translate and watch this video if you can👇 ua-cam.com/video/sKMf8W7P6zQ/v-deo.htmlsi=YqjS--HnfLww_O-C by the way are you a foreigner or indian?
ས in ཁམས་ is silent, therefore, Kham. Kham can be distinguished from Lhasa TIbetan mostly by vowel changes. A /ɒ/, like in Hungarian, while o is /ʌ/. Also vocabulary in Kham is closer to Amdo than to Lhasa. Usually, Kham speakers have the least problem understanding both Amdo and Lhasa Tibetan. The hardest is Amdo Tibetan for Lhasa speakers.
Tibetan consonants are quite similar to burmese.Also some monosyllabic words are the same. No wonder burmese is part of the tibetan-burman language. There are 33 consonants and 4 tones in burmese.
I'm Indian and I've observed that in spite of the strong Indian cultural influence on Tibet and the use of Sanskrit in Tibetan Buddhism there are surprisingly few Sanskrit loanwords in Tibetan itself. Most Buddhist concepts were probably translated into Tibetan rather than adopted directly from Sanskrit. Either ways it is fascinating.
@@WaMo721 perhaps it's just my guess , ,,why Hindu devotees in India look Kailash as Hindu's Holly mountain ? perhaps Hindu originated from Tibet's Bon and India's Sanskrit originated from Tibet's zhang zhung(象雄文字),before I studied Tibetan I can't tell India's words and Tibetan words i(ncluding zhang zhung) ,I think Bon and Hindu and Tibetan Buddhism are same ....of course that was wrong ,but I do thought they are same or at least very close .among these words and religions Tibet's zhang zhung and Bon are the oldest .Buddhism should originate from Bon too ,before Buddhism was born in ancient India ,Bon had been existed on Tibet plateau for over 1000 years ,it's easy to infer that Bon had been changed into Buddhism and into Hindu later in ancient India .of course it's just my guess .
Amdo is actually the closest to Old Tibetan, it has preserved the basic vowel structure and pronunciation and it is non tonal. Amdo is perhaps the most similar to western and northern Khampa dialect, Nagchu dialect from northernmost Tibet bordering East Turkestan, Western Tibetan from Ngari and Ladakhi.
EXCELLENT work, many thanks, Julia! One minor issue with your English, though: It's mostly great, but review the pronunciation of VARIED and VARIOUS and VARIES! ;) Spasibo Bolshoe!
I'm Nepali Buddhist i Believe in Tibetan mahayana Buddhism hope one day Tibet will be free from china long life his holiness 14th Dalai Lama 🙏🙏🙏om mani padme Hung 108☸#freeTibet
How did you become so knowledgeable in Tibetan languages!! Very impressive and surprise 😮 with the stunning beautiful eyes and goddess 🌙like appearance 😉👍🙏👏 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Long live Tibetan language and Tibetan culture !!
The Tibetan script is one of the most beautiful and intriguing of all writing systems….I hope to someday devote some time to actually learning it!
Tashi Delek! best wishes!
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you'd better hurry, because this language is bound to disappear, just like any other spoken in Russia and China.
It is based on the Sanskrit language. Check it out.
Mountain languages are always so amazing and poetic. I love them !
As someone learning Gaidhlig, I agree
Sound is different in the mountains.
I'm certain the acoustics of mountains and ravines shaped the development of these languages. I wonder if anyone has studied the properties of these languages from a geographic deterministic point of view.
It’s going to be interesting when she gets to Pashto or Dari Pashto.
No one cares about any pjeeet language, neither Chinese care about it.
Tashi delek! Thank you for sharing this video, loved it!
Unfortunately, your editing tool didn´t allow Tibetan words to manifest in the right ways, so here are the examples you used in the video:
11:49 - བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས།
12:38 - སུམ་རྟགས
12:48 - ཁོང་བོད་པ་རེད།
12:57 - བོད་ལ་ཁོང་ཡོད་རེད།
14:20 - བོད་ལ་ཁོང་འདུག།
14:37 - ཡོད་རེད་
15:21 - fire མེ་
Greetings
Drukmo Gyal
And འདུག for 'tuk (the auxiliary)
There is also some debate about whether Tibetan was originally monosyllabic. The prefix consonant clusters may have been (sesqui-)syllables at one point.
I have a book on Old Tibetan that I got from my linguistics program, and they genuinely are such an incredible, albeit very complex, language family. It’s gorgeous to listen to, and has such a wonderful bouncy sound to them haha.
Thanks Juli. I was the one who suggested to research Tibetan for a future video, and I am very pleased with your outcome. I learned many things, and I believe I was right about Tibetan being such and interesting, and fairly unknown language and culture. There is also a long literary tradition (the Epic of Gesar for example) and a lot of untranslated manuscripts. So even such a broad video still leaves a lot of more interesting things to discover. I hope you had as much fun doing it as I did watching it.
Finally some coverage for this language!
Thank you for spreading awareness and knowledge on Tibetan Language🙏
Thanks, Tibetan is languages and culture are a treasure for humanity.
I am from Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan. I am Balti and we use the same script when writing the Balti language. Its amazing to see how widely used the Tibetan script is.
First of all. Thank you very much for your effort on this Topic.
I am an exile Tibetan and writer in Tibetan language.
Here you shared a views on Tibetan language which is generally common Tibetan people’s view.
I am not against this. But, if we looked deeply into Tibetan Grammar system and pronunciation of Tibetans and the area where Tibetan language and scripture using on daily basis or for Tibetan Buddhism.
Here you can find just some dialects through the history of Tibet. Which is divided into Tibetan farmer languages and Tibetan nomads languages.
Through the years of my knowledge. There are no Kham, Amdo and Utsang languages. Because those names are base on area. Not based on language.
I mean, base on your view, you can find Amdo language in Bhutan and Utsang.
So this video is totally wrong?
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all Tibetan r so happy to see ur beautiful work n research , thank you madam big respect , new sub, iI am Tibetan born as refugee in India still learn a lot ,
I admire your dedications to world precious languagues. It is so amazing that all those languagues were developed by their local people.
Amazed by your research and analysis on Tibetan language ❤
Love your videos, and so happy I got to learn more about Tibetan. Thanks for brightening my day!
YOOOOOOO I MISSED THESE VIDEOSS LETS GOOOOOOO
What a gorgeous language!
Could you please do a video on Occitan?
It's a language spoken from Northern Spain across the South of France into Italy. It sounds like dialect Italian with a French accent and at one time it was the most spoken language in France. It's also called Languedoc, Provençal and Occitano, a language bursting with songs and poems and folk literature.
Bonjorn!
I am currently learning its 'sister language' Catalan in Barcelona, but I have also briefly been to southern France. Avignon was the most memorable city.
Love and respect to Occitan ❤
@@prathameshdeshpande1668Catalan is the closest language to Occitan, I speak a bit of Catalan and when I visited Toulouse I was delighted to see that I could understand most of the written Occitan. Unfortunately hearing spoken Occitan is becoming less and less common due to the French centralist policies :(
As a Burmese, I love Tibetan language because it's easiest for me after Burmese dialects outside Myanmar. I can understand "Nga" I,me, "Nga tso" we, "re'' is and basic original words like eat,leg,cry,is,you,fire,hand, grandfather, male,....
Burmese and Tibetan scripts are the most beautiful and pleasant writing systems in the world for me.
Greetings from spain
I really like Burmese writing system
Trust me you will have a much easier time understanding north East Indian languages, Naga, Mizo, etc. Tibetan would be the hardest for you in actuality.
In khasi language also for "I" we say "Nga"
@@sonam1959_Arunachali are not Tibetan?
im so glad to see you've uploaded a new video to give us all some great information to learn!
Tibetan is such a fascinating language as is Tibet itself as a whole. Appreciate the content.
བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས། Juley😊
Incredible་vlog 👌💖
We speak Ladakhi. We called it Bhoti.
I can understand U Tsang & Khams spoken language but Amdo is quite difficult to understand.
Bhoti is mixed language hindi. ladakhi .tibetan . It's a mixed. We called mixed language is Bhoti❤
Tibetan language is Tibetan not Bhoti
Added Tibet still has entire 84000 teaching, treaties and commentaries of Buddha Shakyamuni.
I'm from Baltistan which was a part of Tibbat in past . We speaks Balti language which is the branch of tibetan language . I will like to visit Tibbat their culture language and areas looks like us
maryul(ladakh) and baltiyul(baltistan)
It great to see you back...and with such a distinguished language as well!
Thanks for these interesting details about Tibetan language.
It took about 300 years to develop Tibetan language because Tibetan emperors was sending Tibetans to study Bhuddhist hybrid Sanskrit in Bhuddhist universities like Nalanda in India.
Whole Central administration was involved in this project and there used to be a seperate translation department which includes Bhuddhist scholar from India and Tibetan scholar trained in Bhuddhist hybrid Sanskrit. 🙏🙏🙏
I love Tibet, free Tibet and please support Tibet.
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🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏free Tibet👍
@@tenzindolma2253 I agree with you. In February 1951, three and a half years after the British Raj has left the subcontinent and India was created, India finally trekked up to Tawang, South Tibet and annexed it. The Tibetan Lhasa government protested to India but to no avail. Tawang is the birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to the four hundred years old Tawang Monastery. In 1987 India renamed South Tibet to the so-called Arunachal Pradesh and make it a state. Today after seven decades of thuggish Indian rule, South Tibet is restless and India knows it. India reacted by imposing the draconian AFSPA on South Tibet. AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) gives the Indian state the power to detain or killed anyone with impunity. It is a law design to intimidate the local people. AFSPA is imposed on area India deemed 'disturbed', such as South Tibet and Kashmir. Free South Tibet from India.
Hey can you talk me
The biggest beneficiary of Tibet's independence is the United States, while the biggest victim is Tibet itself. He will lose transfer payments from China, become poor, and then be used as an insignificant pawn by the United States in dividing and controlling East Asia.
Beautiful, smart, kind Julie ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Happy to see you again🙂
So glad to see you upload again. Hope all is good.
Finally you're back!!!
Tibet is a fascinating place... would love to visit one day... and also Mongolia... where the magic is strong - Tibetan script has to be one of the most beautiful scripts we as a human species have
Welcome to Tibet, China .
@@REALGUCHENGwelcome to tibet.
Julie, I am amazed at these videos you put together on languages you don't speak but come up with all these interesting facts about it. Thank you 🙏 🇨🇦
Thank you Julie!🤗 I can't wait to study Tibetan. I feel it is important because it needs to continue to exist. Right now I am in Nepal visiting my Newari friend. Here they speak many languages, according to my friend. Have you ever done a video about Newari? If yes I say to you, Jo Jo Lapa.😀
Tibetan language and scripts will continue to exist due to huge fundings for it by different governments and INGOs but Newari language and scripts are vulnerable. Newars have many original scripts like Ranjana and Nepal Lipi but most Newari people don't understand as Nepal uses Devanagari and English script to teach in schools
@@aa6eheia156 You know your stuff. Thank you for your reply 😊
Thank you so much for exploring my mother language. And Trison Detsen is the most powerful king in the history of Tibet.
As a Basque I'm pleased to see that Juli has so much appreciation for my language :D
I was shocked to learn that Tibetan also has the ergative case, although the language theory she explained (the worldwide Dene-Caucasian language family) doesn't have much consensus among linguists and remains a marginal theory.
Aye ; the fact that ergative exists in 2 languages doesn't mean they are related in any way. There are languages that are related and some have the ergative and others don't... Afaik Tibetan and Chinese are related, Tibetan has the ergative, not Chinese (anymore). Kurdish has ergative, not Persian, while they are related. Hindi has ergative, not Sanskrit (its ancestor !), etc...
Well explained, thank you. I love tibetian culture, dressing style & geography.
Excellent your lecture Julingo👏👏👏, it is a complete work, and your eyes keep me so attentive, I would like to learn right now Tibetan language👍🏼❗️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️🏃🏻♂️
The research is perfect, the contents are great, the delivery is smooth I just wish Julie smiled once a while :)
Very cool. I learned a lot. Please note there are quite a few spelling errors in the Tibetan graphics where the vowels are misplaced. For example the “naro” should be over the Ba not the Da in the word for Tibet བོད་. There are others as well. Otherwise great content thank you!
Glad you've returned Juli, with what seems to be the hardest writing system in the world
It is interesting how humans have developed different sounds to convey thought . Just taking one sound to convey the greeting , " hello " , and putting that sound , back to back , on an audio stream of every known language would be interesting to and quite possibly sound like a forest full of birds. Thanks for the share mystic woman ! :O)
She's probably created by AI.
girl, I was struggling a lot trying to pronounce Tibetan.
after this video, now it feels more natural
Wow, you have such an amazing knowledge of so many languages it’s amazing. ☺️
great historic educational vlog ever,,thank u Julingo fr sharing great reality of Tibetan history cultural n language etc...keep it up,,,
I so enjoyed this episode.
I loved the sound of the Amado variant, perhaps because of the strong consonant clusters.
I found it curious that at times the phonetics reminded me of a mixture of Japanese and Turkish.
Amdo Tibetan phonetics is close to Mongolian which is quite similar to that of Turkic languages.
Ohhh that's why!! For a moment I thought I was hearing Kazakh or some similar Central Asian Turkic language
It sounds nothing like Japanese, but yes Turkic and it is due to our close relations with Oirats, and Uyghurs
@@sonam1959_ Oirats are Mongolian, i doubt that Tibetans from Aldo had close contact with Uygurs(maybe Yellow Uyghurs « Yugur » people who live there near Kokonor) But there are definitely Oirat Mongolian people living there, they belong to Khoshuud tribe also they are known as Deed Mongols(Upper Mongols).
@@damian_madmansnest not really with Mongolian. You shoud've known that Tibetan, Mongolian and Turkic r not even in the same family.
བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས་from Ladakh
Thumbs up, you,re so intelligent, able to cope with complicated matters into a concise account.👋
Video is really helpful for people who didn't herd about Tibetan or didn't herd too much. Ortography is really complicated even for native speakers sometimes :D
The main problem with ortography in your video is that vowel mark should be placed upper (ghigu, drengbo, naaro) or below (shyabkyu) the root letter. It is very important. For example in your sentence it should looks like that: བོད་ལ་ཁོང་ཡོད་རེད།
I saw that you speak "yod-re". The important point is that all prefixes and some suffixes ("da", "sa" and of course the 2nd suffix "sa") are silent, but they could change pronounciation of the vowel - suffix letters "da", "na", "la", "sa" change "a" to "ä", "o" to "ö" and "u" to "ü". So yod.red should be pronounced as "yö-re".
Prefix (ALWAYS) or head letter (sometimes) make root letter stronger . Because basically "ga" is more like "ka" with lower tone, only with preffix it becames GA like in word "bGu" (pronounced as GU) - nine.
Subscirbed letters (mainly "added ya" and "added ra") could change pronounciation of some root letters.
Also there is one difficult matter about tibetan - spelling. But is useless unless you wouldn't like to learn classical tibetan or try to communicate with native speakers.
Tibetan ortography hasn't changed for ages, but modern colloqiual grammar is very different from the classical one. For me the classical one sometimes is more simple...
Love this!! Thanks Juli ❤😊
great choice! happy holidays!
Although its not so accurate but as a non native speaker you tried best and good job, thanks for sharing this holy language.😊🕊️
བཀྲ་ཤིས་བདེ་ལེགས།🙏 thanks for this video ❤
Thanks for the great work you have done for history of Tibet and the Himalayan Language as sherpa we do speak similar to Tibetan.❤
4:55 For reference, 75% intelligibility is the score given for German vs Dutch or Spanish & Portuguese. In truth, Central Tibetan & Khams should be considered as dialects of the same language, as they'd be able to understand each other better than Slovenes & Serbo-Croatian speakers.
I don't know where she got those numbers from. The consensus in the field is that there are multiple dialects WITHIN Central and Khams language families. For example, Central includes three kinds of To, plus Tsang, U, Phanpo, Lhoka, and Kongpo varieties... Khams similarly is a dialect family in and of itself.
Portuguese and Spanish have intelligibility far higher than 75% in written form (about 95%) and a bit higher on spoken form, albeit asymmetrically: Portuguese speakers usually understand Spanish better than the other way around.
Portuguese and Spanish are NOT dialects of the same language.
@@sgriggl Source is Tyschenko's algorithm comparing wordlists of European languages. I don't care what the "consensus" is when it's clear that there is enough lexical similarity/mutual intelligibility for these two "languages" to be considered dialects by purely objective means. Linguists (along with natural scientists, especially concerning taxonomy) are infamous for splitting hairs & creating clades where they shouldn't exist. The same academics telling us that Afrikaans & Dutch, Scots & English, Serbian & Croatian, or Galician & Portuguese are "totally different languages bro trust me" when actual speakers recount high levels of intelligibilty in both written & spoken forms are trying to gaslight society in applying the same ridiculous logic to the rest of the world. As a speaker of both Standard German & a German dialect (Schwäbisch) I've always recognized how utterly political these arguments are, especially once I started trying to learn many of these languages myself.
@@Afrologist You are misunderstanding my comment. "She" refers to the YTer. I don't know where she got this 86% number from. And I'm talking about the consensus of linguists who specialize in Tibetic languages.
Thank you for your effort put into this video. 😊
You are a genius! Towards the end, it's going over my head.
Thank you for sharing ❤
wonderful video!!!
'm happy you did this one!
I cant look at her for too long, her eyes will cause me to fall into a mesmerizing spell.
You are great. Thank you very much
I love Tibet, very complex system of writing and pronouncing. Interesting perhaps to have a private teacher. THANKS for this inf. You are an expert❤❤
i am balti and and we almost speak tibet language
Speaking about the poetic nature of the language, Tibetan poetic culture is derived from Indian (Sanskrit), classic Sanskrit treatises on poetry like Kāvyādarśa are well known and studied in Tibetan monasteries, and while not many Tibetan lamas currently know Sanskrit, practically all of them can write poetry (also due to the isolating nature of Tibetan and lack of short and long vowel distinction it is much easier than writing Sanskrit poetry). And of course, all traditional Sanskrit metaphors are well known in the Tibetan culture.
😂😂 sanskrit itself is derived from Pali.
@@sankettt Sanskrit is a literary standard. Of course it was based on spoken language around the time when the standard was formed. Much earlier than Pali though 🙃
@@damian_madmansnest go and first search for the meaning of the name sanskrit. sanskrit means refined or perfected. so from which language it is refined? or perfected? It is the Pali language from which it has refined and perfected.
@@sankettt Please don’t insult my intelligence by presuming I don’t know the meaning of the term ‘Sanskrit’ or the history of its development. Pali is a Middle Indo-Aryan language extant from 3rd century BC when it was spoken. The earliest Sanskrit is Vedic Sanskrit which was codified in 17th century BC, about 1400 years before Pali. Therefore, the spoken language that Sanskrit was based on (‘refined’ from) could not have been Pali, but it’s much earlier predecessor.
@@damian_madmansnest sanskrit is no older than BC. translate and watch this video if you can👇
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by the way are you a foreigner or indian?
Thank you so much for sharing, so lovely 🥰 to hear
Excellent video explaining the origin and complicated nature of written Tibetan,
❤Tashi delek Beautiful Juli la❤thukjeche nang 🙏🙏🙏Bhogyalo ✌️👍🕺💃
ས in ཁམས་ is silent, therefore, Kham.
Kham can be distinguished from Lhasa TIbetan mostly by vowel changes. A /ɒ/, like in Hungarian, while o is /ʌ/. Also vocabulary in Kham is closer to Amdo than to Lhasa. Usually, Kham speakers have the least problem understanding both Amdo and Lhasa Tibetan. The hardest is Amdo Tibetan for Lhasa speakers.
Hey can you talk
@@PranjalYadav-p2w Sorry?
ཐུགས་རྗེཞེ་དྲག་ཆེ་། (tujay shita-chay), Julie. Nice video. Merry Christmas and happy new year.
Thank u that was brief and beautifully explained
Thank you 🙏 for you interest and explanation ❤
Fascinating language and culture!
Very well explained. Much appreciate 🙏
Great I have also learned a lot from this content thank you 🙏
you are greate! please keep up the good work!
Thank you , we learn a lot from you .
Tibetan consonants are quite similar to burmese.Also some monosyllabic words are the same. No wonder burmese is part of the tibetan-burman language. There are 33 consonants and 4 tones in burmese.
Yes,we can understand "Nga" I,me, "Nga tso" we, "re'' is and basic original words like eat,leg,cry,is,fire,hand,...
I'm Indian and I've observed that in spite of the strong Indian cultural influence on Tibet and the use of Sanskrit in Tibetan Buddhism there are surprisingly few Sanskrit loanwords in Tibetan itself. Most Buddhist concepts were probably translated into Tibetan rather than adopted directly from Sanskrit. Either ways it is fascinating.
there is little influence from india to tibet Culturally,despite bordering each other for thousands of kilometres for long time.....
yes ,I ,a han Chinese who knows Tibetan ,agree with you .
@@WaMo721 perhaps it's just my guess , ,,why Hindu devotees in India look Kailash as Hindu's Holly mountain ? perhaps Hindu originated from Tibet's Bon and India's Sanskrit originated from Tibet's zhang zhung(象雄文字),before I studied Tibetan I can't tell India's words and Tibetan words i(ncluding zhang zhung) ,I think Bon and Hindu and Tibetan Buddhism are same ....of course that was wrong ,but I do thought they are same or at least very close .among these words and religions Tibet's zhang zhung and Bon are the oldest .Buddhism should originate from Bon too ,before Buddhism was born in ancient India ,Bon had been existed on Tibet plateau for over 1000 years ,it's easy to infer that Bon had been changed into Buddhism and into Hindu later in ancient India .of course it's just my guess .
Tibetan language and culture should préserve......❤
Native American and Australian Aboriginal too
@@MarkMiller304true, we never hear about natives and aboriginals anymore, what happened to them?
@@awaiskhan9329 genocide
@@MarkMiller304 sad
Thank you so much for letting world to know our Tibetan languages and culture. FREE TIBET
Good effort, history repeats. 🌜
Interesting video. Thanks ❤
Thanks for covering on our rich language.
Amdo is actually the closest to Old Tibetan, it has preserved the basic vowel structure and pronunciation and it is non tonal. Amdo is perhaps the most similar to western and northern Khampa dialect, Nagchu dialect from northernmost Tibet bordering East Turkestan, Western Tibetan from Ngari and Ladakhi.
What about the dolpos? They pronounce the ཕྱི་ as phy not chi
i am very gald that it is almost same to my language of Baltistan
Can you cover the Aymara language?
Thanks for meaningful video🙏👍♥️
Your knowledge on language is great 👍 well done and your Tibetan is also good 👍 keep it up
Awesome for your hard work / keep it up
EXCELLENT work, many thanks, Julia! One minor issue with your English, though: It's mostly great, but review the pronunciation of VARIED and VARIOUS and VARIES! ;) Spasibo Bolshoe!
I'm also speak sub-tibetan language which is called "Balti"
I'm Nepali Buddhist i Believe in Tibetan mahayana Buddhism hope one day Tibet will be free from china long life his holiness 14th Dalai Lama 🙏🙏🙏om mani padme Hung 108☸#freeTibet
you are fake ,why don't you say you are from your real country ,India . India is great ,India is glorious ,long live India ,isn't it good ?
Great job keep going i am proud of you and i
will subscribe you😊
How did you become so knowledgeable in Tibetan languages!! Very impressive and surprise 😮 with the stunning beautiful eyes and goddess 🌙like appearance 😉👍🙏👏 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Nice, video. Thank you ❤🙏☮️🇳🇵
Tashi delek to you and thank you so much for sharing this video.👏👏🤝🤝🤝❤️ Free Tibet 👍.
Very interesting! Thank you!
i love u julie lots of love ur biggest fan from nigeria, yunus!