Herb doing the Herb thing, Part Two

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2020
  • You all know Herb Reichert, he writes for Stereophile magazine www.stereophile.com/writer/12... This is Part Two of the interview, best to start with Part One, • Herb Reichert's back, ...
    Today Herb looks back on the first amplifier he designed, the Flesh & Blood, Fi, Sound Practices magazine, Don Garber, JC Morrison, Joe Roberts, and more.
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  • @m_DT
    @m_DT 3 роки тому +37

    Herb is a national treasure.
    “Great Amps are designed on napkins” should be a bumper sticker or t-shirt.

  • @klausfluegelschwanz6759
    @klausfluegelschwanz6759 3 роки тому +18

    The choice for the second location to record this beautiful story is art in itself

    • @user-od9iz9cv1w
      @user-od9iz9cv1w 3 роки тому +6

      If I am not mistaken its the alley beside the Bunker? I think it is pretty cool. Thank God the world has these people.

  • @bigblueocean
    @bigblueocean 3 роки тому +33

    Steve does crazy T shirts and Herb, Herb does the hats.

    • @PlaybackMansion
      @PlaybackMansion 3 роки тому +7

      That errant earflap adds quite a bit of action and suspense

    • @SoCalFreelance
      @SoCalFreelance 3 роки тому +2

      I think that pigeon flying around Herb wanted to build a nest in it

    • @runefossdal7871
      @runefossdal7871 3 роки тому

      Yes. Skinnhuva of Oluf. ua-cam.com/video/o5EU6UzyCZ0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Weldy68

  • @johnlebeau5471
    @johnlebeau5471 3 роки тому +3

    Glass Audio magazine, Volume 7 Number 3. It changed my audio life. The cover said "Single Ended Glory for Under $100". The article had plans for a single ended stereo amplifier using the 45 power tube. The secret for the low price was that it used Sansui output transformers that were push pull. The designer, Eric Barbour, claimed that the power output was so low that the transformer did not need to be expensive single ended type. After thinking about it for a few years, I finally decided what the heck and I built one.This was now 1998. It was my first electronic project, the plans consisted of a schematic and a parts list. I was so relieved when it didn't go up in a puff of smoke when I turned it on. It actually cost me $600 to build, I had no parts bin and I bought single ended transformers. It did not take very long to realize that this was the best amplifier I had ever heard. My amps at the time were Audio Research Classic 150 monoblocks, $10,000 for the pair back in 1989. This $600 home built amp was better. The power output of 2 watts would not power my electrostatic speakers so I began a long search for the perfect single ended speaker. I wound up modifying a pair of Altec theater horns, I had actually been to the theater they came out of. I still have the amp, it still works, and it is hooked up to my speakers right now. I have not lusted after the latest and greatest equipment for a long time now, and probably never will again.

  • @roberte.andrews4621
    @roberte.andrews4621 3 роки тому +2

    Herb's midwinter head covering and overcoat reminded me of walking from 38th St. all the way up 5th ave. one cold March day in 1959 to see the Guggenheim Museum. I was a young soldier stationed on Governor's Island in New York Harbor. As a graphic artist with a BA in Fine Arts, I was eager to see this monument, but I was chilled to the bone walking all that way in a cotton raincoat! Reichert's comment regarding the affinity of graphic artists with good music reminded me of good times back in my hometown in the Midwest wiring our own gear like HK Citation kits and listening to them over giant speaker systems of the day like the Electro-Voice Patricians. These analog puppies will make the average audiophile sit up and take notice and sell for thousands of dollars today in restored condition. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  • @capelight52
    @capelight52 3 роки тому +7

    Herb IS the SALT of the EARTH! And he is YOUNG but with all that Experience! Love it.Thanks Steve and Herb.

  • @bobsmoot8454
    @bobsmoot8454 3 роки тому +11

    I learned of these many talented gentlemen through Joe Roberts’s publication Sound Practices, what a GREAT magazine. The articles are still relevant today, they’re definitely worth the effort to find and read, a couple of times. It’s about the emotional connection for many of us.

  • @Leicaphile27
    @Leicaphile27 3 роки тому +8

    A few months ago I heard about Sound Practices from an Audiophilliac episode with Herb R. That same day I saw and purchased a complete set of the original magazines on eBay for $100. Reading them has been great. It's made the pandemic a little more palatable. Thanks Steve...without your channel none of this would've happened!

  • @lancelloyd7429
    @lancelloyd7429 3 роки тому +3

    Both of these (part 1&2) are pure gold. Thanks Steve!

  • @paulmlemay
    @paulmlemay 8 місяців тому +1

    I LOVE Herb. I could listen to him talk about tubes for hours

  • @NickP333
    @NickP333 3 роки тому +13

    Thanks so much, Herb and Steve. A couple of my very good friends are “wizards”, and I really love them and am so thankful to have them in my life. I could honest to god listen to Herb talk about just about anything for as long as he’d be willing to keep speaking. Now, when do parts 3 - 10 come out? Thanks again, guys!

  • @paulpavlou9294
    @paulpavlou9294 3 роки тому +1

    Herb is a living legend and herby nominated for the Audiophile hall of fame.

  • @coreyriggle
    @coreyriggle 3 роки тому +2

    I'm fascinated by the fi design aesthetic, I'd love to hear more about the amps, the designer and the store

  • @keeferdog5617
    @keeferdog5617 3 роки тому +12

    Filmed in a “secret location” near the outside of the inside.....of the bunker

  • @perosa99
    @perosa99 3 роки тому +2

    Clandestine meeting of Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda. Spreading the word of the Force.

  • @mladenbasic1
    @mladenbasic1 3 роки тому +20

    Bring on part 3. These personal stories are great!

    • @freekwo7772
      @freekwo7772 3 роки тому

      Hi Michael, do you have Croatian roots?

    • @mladenbasic1
      @mladenbasic1 3 роки тому

      @@freekwo7772 yes I was born just outside of Karlovac

    • @freekwo7772
      @freekwo7772 3 роки тому

      @@mladenbasic1 Glad to hear, greetings from Zagreb! My son is Mihael also. I assumed that your family name is Bašić so I asked. Hope you don't mind. :-)

    • @mladenbasic1
      @mladenbasic1 3 роки тому

      @@freekwo7772 My actual first name is Mladen. My dad used Micheal when I started school in Hamilton, Canada. Great to hear from someone in Zagreb. Haven’t been there since 1999.

    • @freekwo7772
      @freekwo7772 3 роки тому

      @@mladenbasic1 It was good to hear from you, and follow great Steve's channel. And Herb's stories that truely desreves part 3

  • @captainloudpants
    @captainloudpants 3 роки тому +8

    Great storytelling. I feel the more digital we get, the ability to tell a great story fades. I think I said what I mean... Thanks!

    • @user-od9iz9cv1w
      @user-od9iz9cv1w 3 роки тому

      I get your sentiment but challenge the meat of it. I believe there are similar great discussions to be had concerning clock phase noise, isolation and TDA1541a vs latest and greatest chips. Not unlike the important discussion around simple triodes and impedance matching power supplies. Just a different portion of the audio chain. Same type of people having a constructive argument.

  • @stewartglick3534
    @stewartglick3534 3 роки тому +6

    This was a real treat! Meeting in the alley was icing on the cake. Also, kinda reminded me of the show The Americans. I hope you didn't need to change locations because the FBI were on to you! More Herb, anytime!

  • @DeviantDeveloper
    @DeviantDeveloper 3 роки тому +6

    Fi on 30 Watt Street.
    Great name, great logo, great address.

  • @mike7357
    @mike7357 3 роки тому +1

    Herb is amazing. I read/watch or listen to everything I see from Herb.

  • @thecheese2386
    @thecheese2386 3 роки тому +2

    The alley location is such a fitting visual for an audiophile 🙂

  • @sivagurupathamvadivelu680
    @sivagurupathamvadivelu680 3 роки тому +1

    The appreciation shown by Herb for his colleagues and friends is highly commendable. You are a nice guy. Keep going you two.

  • @angusvanhalen2886
    @angusvanhalen2886 3 роки тому +3

    I would LOVE to hang out with Herb in The Bunker...just a good dude that loves music

  • @TipoF129B
    @TipoF129B 3 роки тому

    Late 90s...I buy a Pass Aleph 3 and read Nelson’s article on single ended class A. Taking cues from the article I modify my Moscode 600 biasing heavy into class A and running very little feedback. I heard magic, and subsequently bought a cheap Chinese 211 SET (Valve Audio Labs). That became a mainstay after a few upgrades and is still my reference, 20+ yrs later. Shortly after I got the VAL 211 I called Don Garber and discussed a build for a Fi X- with naked Vishay S102s and Solen caps instead of electrolytics. Picked up from Don in Brooklyn and found him to be a soft spoken and gracious person. He commented that the amp was remarkably transparent. I did enjoy it but unfortunately made a decision to sell it about 6 yrs ago and I do regret doing that.......Steve I enjoyed this episode as it connected me back to some inconic pieces in my past, made by some of the characters mentioned in your discussion with Herb. Thank you.

  • @vacuumtube1954
    @vacuumtube1954 3 роки тому

    I have the late Don Garber's X4 amplifier (Type 46 Tube). A great piece. 1.5 watts....Sound Practices magazine, Edgarhorn Speakers...good times. Thank you Steve for this two part interview with Herb.

  • @richardmiglioranza4004
    @richardmiglioranza4004 3 роки тому +1

    That was incredible, could listen to Herb all day. So true about low powered set.

  • @danieldimech4770
    @danieldimech4770 3 роки тому

    Hello Steve, great video we are very lucky to have people like you and Ken Micallef, bringing us these one of kind story tellers, keep them coming I enjoy every minute of each. I think real audiophiles need to know these stories, the history of how each individual started, and the crowed that they used to hang out with, there are so many episodes to tell.....that you could easily write a book, thanks again.

  • @dilbyjones
    @dilbyjones 3 роки тому +4

    Great Luck ! Part 2! “ makers” are GRIT personified... .......you guys are legends now.....

  • @jackprick9797
    @jackprick9797 3 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed this interview. The stories are priceless, would love to be hanging with you and all these greats, but these interviews are the next best thing. fantastic!

  • @luisperez-fs2gz
    @luisperez-fs2gz 3 роки тому +3

    Love these interviews with Herb! Steve, please keep digging these stories from him.

  • @mr.george7687
    @mr.george7687 3 роки тому +3

    Great interview in the alleys, so New York!

  • @peterr.f.5858
    @peterr.f.5858 3 роки тому

    Great Job Steve! So many memories triggered by this vid. I lived in NYC those early days and thanks to Art, Herb, and others, I got the "alternative fi" bug. Haunting Tower records for music and magazines like Sound practices only fed the addiction. I hung out downtown but somehow missed the Fi store. In spite of that by 94 I had one of Don's 2a3's, and shortly afterwards his Fi Y (still have it.) Also built my first and only tube preamp which is still thrown into my system from time to time.
    One night I remember waking into a tiny 2 room gallery on east 5th or 6th st. In it was a single speaker the size of fridge (a klipsch I think) driven by a mono tube amp and a discman. I originally thought there was a live band in that room until I walked in. Later on I was also lucky enough to make it to NY Noise and meet, Don, Herb, and Blackie (Pagano) and listen to some insane gear. Good times!

  • @astolatpere11
    @astolatpere11 3 роки тому

    This is invaluable history and perspective. Thanks Steve.

  • @garyhilbolt4363
    @garyhilbolt4363 3 роки тому +1

    An unparalleled biography of Herb

  • @veniceog
    @veniceog 3 роки тому

    Hey, Steve. Content like this you've made will not take long to be considered historical documentation. Keep making them! Thank you. P.S. One of my favorite amps was associated to Harvey Rosenberg. A New York Audio Labs Moscode 300.

  • @heribertovalentin1563
    @heribertovalentin1563 3 роки тому

    Great interview with Herb....the sad story of Fi breaks my heart....I remember going there and having to meat Don Garber and I was walking one day when I came across Fi one Sunday afternoon when they were close when I saw those beautiful SET amps....which I new nothing about.....I had to go back when there open to take a listen....that was it for me after Don let me hear one of those amps.....Im sorry I never bought one....was out of my price range....but I said to myself one day I will buy one....I bought from Don a modified Dyanco integrated amp which he mod and sounded great to me.....then time passed and I went buy the store and found out someone broke into the Fi shop....that was very sad....It was Don that made me to convert to low power amp which I bought in 2009 a SET 2a3 which was built for me....which I will not let go.....Don turn me on to the great jazz sax player Warne Marsh .....I was hooked....I never saw Don again after the shop was broken into....what a shame....I heard some great sounds there....I never saw Herb there....but maybe at the Gotham audio show in New York once a year around thanksgiving time.....anyway may Don rest in peace...those were beautiful memories....wow Steve was a great interview.....all the best.....Ed in Brooklyn......😏

  • @kentitterington6830
    @kentitterington6830 3 роки тому +1

    These interviews have been really enlightening and enjoyable.

  • @rickg8015
    @rickg8015 3 роки тому +2

    Steve, if you could get an interview with Vincent Gallo about audio and Western Electric, it would be an achievment.. It’s great that you did this with Herb.. Came full circle now when you started to feature Blackie Pagano a few years back.

  • @reitsound3941
    @reitsound3941 3 роки тому

    Thank you guys ,bring us more.

  • @shaggyburn
    @shaggyburn 3 роки тому

    Thanks Steve and Herb. This is oral history. That NY is long gone. As some one who lived there in the 80’s and lives there now I can say that the old NY allowed creatives like Herb to grow and he is still teaching us about audio and survival. Keep it coming!

  • @miguelbarrio
    @miguelbarrio 3 роки тому

    Thank you Herb and Steve! So amazing...

  • @louiesipes2257
    @louiesipes2257 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much Steve, I could listen to Herb for hours.

  • @chadbarker4023
    @chadbarker4023 3 роки тому +4

    Dammit Herb, let me get a 40 bag of weed! Hahahaha. Love this guy. Put your flaps down, we're landing Herb.

  • @tigertiger1699
    @tigertiger1699 3 роки тому

    Cheers guy!! Awesome to get to hear your/ these stories of Audiophiles 🙏

  • @tomasloqvist5655
    @tomasloqvist5655 3 роки тому

    A joy to hear these stories!11 out of 10.

  • @fzswede9533
    @fzswede9533 3 роки тому

    I love these ! Could listen to Herb for hours 👍🏻

  • @JohnDoe-sp5jd
    @JohnDoe-sp5jd 3 роки тому

    Gentlemen, thank you for the delightful video yet again! And please, continue with what you guys do, making this world a better place. Salut !

  • @christopherspiro9857
    @christopherspiro9857 2 місяці тому

    Also, I’ve learned so much from this video. Some of the guys that came out of this think tank are new to me and some are newly discovered and have lead me down the path of discovery. I’ve always loved amps, now I think I’m going to love tube amps. Ha!

  • @sunvalleydrivemusic2332
    @sunvalleydrivemusic2332 3 роки тому

    What a brilliant discussion. I feel super lucky to have watched this. A couple of legends who I’ve followed for so long...just talking about old times. Wow.

  • @tonykazz2779
    @tonykazz2779 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you,
    It feels like you are welcoming us into your NY,NY home of audiophile insights and your personal life experiences.
    This UA-cam is the BBC World News compared to Stereophile's NYTimes.
    Mr.HR's life stories lay an understandable foundation for his printed ( scribbling ? ) work. He has a fascinating peer group, some of whom I've known and his passions for low power is a contributing influence into my own personal gear choices.
    158,000 audiophiles are giving your guests the world's largest Megaphone where they seem to bring an equal measure of useful philosophy.
    How long will it be before Mr.JA2 accepts an invitation to be a guest?
    Where will these subscriptions level off? I didn't realise or think that it would ever go over 150,000.
    This next decade will bring you and your peer group on a wonderful journey!
    Bon Voyage
    Tony in Venice

  • @stimpy1226
    @stimpy1226 3 роки тому +1

    I remember fi. Never went in but passed by it several times in my youth

  • @johnolson4977
    @johnolson4977 3 роки тому

    Another great interview, thanks

  • @lokerola
    @lokerola 3 роки тому

    Great interview- so much fun.

  • @gregoryjolly1734
    @gregoryjolly1734 3 роки тому +2

    These type of interviews are like going to school. Knowledge and History.

    • @yogarl7
      @yogarl7 3 роки тому +1

      ...from the greatest audio enthusiasts, engineer's and genius's of this world!

  • @0123456789mikey
    @0123456789mikey 3 роки тому +1

    Made my Thanksgiving weekend !!! Thanks Steve !

  • @shaneball3493
    @shaneball3493 3 роки тому +1

    I love to listen to Herb, Thank you Steve.

  • @marksmith7930
    @marksmith7930 3 роки тому

    Love these interviews .

  • @brandonburr4900
    @brandonburr4900 3 роки тому

    This was a terrific holiday treat! I think you could just walk up and interview herb about any random story he has and we would all listen! I say keep bringing more from herb and all his stories of his audiophile journies. Perhaps some of his race car building days to. Thanks Steve!

  • @maureenwassermann767
    @maureenwassermann767 3 роки тому

    Great work, Herb and Steve. Very engaging vids.

  • @DrGIzmoBRad
    @DrGIzmoBRad 3 роки тому

    O~M~G ... What a fantastic duo of episodes!
    Part 1: I was introduced to Arthur Loesch at an audio get together a few years prior to his passing. Arthur asked me if I could make him an outboard tonearm mount for his turntable. I did, and in return he gave me 6DJ8 phono preamp and line stage PWB's that he'd designed years before. Arthur gave specific guidelines that the power supply was highly filtered but unregulated. With the help of two tube guru friends, the specifics of the power supply design were hashed out. Three weeks later I completed the build and visited Arthur with separate PS and preamp in hand for his assessment. It continues to be the front of my all tube stereo.
    Part 2: I discovered Harvey 'Gizmo' Rothenstien through Listener Magazine. His story telling and experiences promoting low power tube amplification led me to build my 1st tube amplifier. A little 6BM8 two channel rig with a 6X4 rectifier that puts out 1.7 wpc. I contacted him about it and in response he asked how it made me feel. I said it made me feel more connected to the music's intentions. He exclaimed 'You're Done - Congratulations!'. I built this amp 20 years ago. Today it's feeding a pair of TQWT single driver 94 dB spl speakers.
    Many many thanks to You and Herb for bringing insight to the memories of these fine gentlemen who literally started me on the path to tube nirvana.

  • @larrycasey3587
    @larrycasey3587 3 роки тому

    Keep scribbling and prattling Herb. Enjoy both current stereophile output and reminisces. I was floored by a 300B SET that made my cj monoblocks sound ALMOST like solid state. Rock On.

  • @user-od9iz9cv1w
    @user-od9iz9cv1w 3 роки тому

    Thank God you pressed the right button and the battery was charged. This two part interview was a magical audio history lesson.

  • @jeffreysobczynski7113
    @jeffreysobczynski7113 3 місяці тому

    Ok - you guys are nuts! I love it.

  • @ancc2281
    @ancc2281 3 роки тому

    Awesome. Love this stuff.

  • @badbruise
    @badbruise 3 роки тому

    Great interview

  • @christopherspiro9857
    @christopherspiro9857 2 місяці тому

    Nice hat Herb ! Herb in the urban jungle!

  • @henrym78
    @henrym78 3 роки тому

    Enjoyed this one Steve.

  • @dtec6025
    @dtec6025 3 роки тому +2

    "WOW" that was good.

  • @alexanderboehm80
    @alexanderboehm80 3 роки тому +3

    Boom! Herb ist back & now there are 158,000 (!) Follower!

  • @lynnpoole7830
    @lynnpoole7830 3 роки тому

    Much thanks!

  • @vaneast411
    @vaneast411 3 роки тому +6

    "it is important in life to have access to wizards"
    truth
    🌸🌷⛩

  • @bikeracersl
    @bikeracersl 3 роки тому

    Thanks Guys great stories!

  • @DismasM
    @DismasM 3 роки тому

    These are great, gents. I love tying stories from the videos and articles together. My daughter's name is Fiona and I've stolen the 'fi' logo for her. Living in a firehouse with Voice of the Theater speakers back then... can't imagine.

  • @paulstaltare2663
    @paulstaltare2663 3 роки тому +3

    You guys are making me think more about tubes!

  • @miguelbarrio
    @miguelbarrio 3 роки тому

    So great.

  • @benicetall
    @benicetall 3 роки тому

    Loved the history of the amp minds 👌

  • @arun2995
    @arun2995 2 роки тому

    I would pushed subscribed again for this video alone

  • @FOH3663
    @FOH3663 3 роки тому

    Stevemo, more Herb please.
    Every Herb video ends much too quickly... seemingly at a point where he's just getting started.
    More Herb please.

  • @ABYSSHeadphones
    @ABYSSHeadphones 3 роки тому

    Gotta love Herb:)

  • @ttrrs_o3498
    @ttrrs_o3498 3 роки тому

    Gave away my tube amp when I moved- now l feel loss,regret,hollow,thanks for sharing Herb

  • @ThomasSielaff
    @ThomasSielaff 3 роки тому

    Perfect!!

  • @brendanlawton7518
    @brendanlawton7518 3 роки тому

    Great stories Part 1 I thought it was snowing there.

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance 3 роки тому +1

    I did a Google street view of 11 Watts Street, I see the location is now 'SOHO Cigar Bar', still an interesting location in lower Manhattan to set up Fi back in the day

    • @gotham61
      @gotham61 3 роки тому

      Fi was at 30 Watts Street. It's now a restaurant called Mooncake Foods.

  • @chrismusic1180
    @chrismusic1180 3 роки тому

    I don’t own a single piece of Hi Fi equipment. But I love watching interesting and intelligent people talk about their passions.

    • @jackmills5071
      @jackmills5071 3 роки тому

      If you can, then take the leap and go online to find some good used speakers and an amp. It really does make a difference.

  • @Audiorevue
    @Audiorevue 7 місяців тому

    Is this what Herb does in Brooklyn, he just hangs out in alleyways all day talking to himself?

  • @hakanpersson6524
    @hakanpersson6524 3 роки тому

    Herb and Steve is a nice combo !

  • @rd264
    @rd264 3 роки тому

    surprised Herb hasnt written this history of his up for a series in the S'file.

  • @MRPC5
    @MRPC5 3 роки тому

    30 Watts is now a fancy cigar bar.

  • @theone69ize
    @theone69ize 3 роки тому

    Steve Tommy met
    Great interview great video!!

  • @brianbob7514
    @brianbob7514 3 роки тому

    I love herb

  • @3lueant347
    @3lueant347 3 роки тому +1

    How about paid web event with you guys? Presale tx, presentation then Q & A? There could be a theme, amplifiers, cables, you see where I am going? You could make some coin! Maybe we could ask you guys ‘next step’ questions like I have LS50 & Sphinx v3.... blah blah blah... where’s my next step? It’s just a thought.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 3 роки тому

    Love Herb. I wanna hang out with him!

  • @milesdufourny4813
    @milesdufourny4813 3 роки тому

    "Psssst, Hey buddy! - Wanna buy some tubes?"

  • @auggysimcity
    @auggysimcity 3 роки тому

    Steve. I think you and Herb should do one audio podcast a month. Or bi-monthly. Talk about random topics. Plus a bit of audio.

  • @meshplates
    @meshplates 3 роки тому

    Great

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 3 роки тому

    So interesting

  • @holygeezer3369
    @holygeezer3369 3 роки тому +1

    Inquiring minds want to know where you procure all those wonderfully wild shirts you wear on your great videos? My partner loves them all and I agree.

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks! The African shirts come from the Ashanti Fields Collection

    • @holygeezer3369
      @holygeezer3369 3 роки тому

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Thanks so much. We ordered three beautiful shirts today.

  • @williampearson4968
    @williampearson4968 3 роки тому

    Herb is an interesting chap ready for a long Brooklyn, NYC winter. Do you think PS Audio's Octave Records release of Otis Taylor in DSD will be as good as other past MA Recordings? or Chesky? Compete as natural sound or just as good or better than vinyl?

  • @daverombouts2116
    @daverombouts2116 3 роки тому

    Nice intervieuw

  • @robertdebellis9703
    @robertdebellis9703 3 роки тому

    I loved it. Not only very interesting information about the history of all you guys involvement but so earthy and grounded, so to speak :). Maybe you guys should consider doing an interview event at night standing around an old oil drum with a fire going on in it. Just kidding guys it’s all great. Thanks for doing it all.