The irony is Bagration was judged as a mediocre ship back then. Now it is buffed and became a good ship, what would happen to Z44 in the future? Thats why I dont skip campaigns.
I ended up getting this ship in those crates from the last season pass and I didn’t mind it before the buff. I use it for destroyer hunting on the caps with that radar.
GG Comrade. Another reason to always get Admiralty Backing and don't sell ships: bad ones get buffed (eventually). Never been one of my favorites, but the longer ranger of Russian cruisers is great to make DD players get a a new pair of pants. Also use mostly fire, with AL Avrora, that also boosts AP.
This was a massive buff to the P bag and the same thing can happen to any campaign ship that wasn't any good when it first came out. You just never know when a ship could from a 2019 Redbull F1 to a 2023 and a chad Aaron behind the wheel aka Max Verstappen. Had to put a F1 reference in. I kove how many people are getting into F1 lately, i haven't missed a race since 1990 and love the sport so much. GG Aaron.
It dod get better. I took it out for a spin after the buff. Noticeable difference. I was suspect on whether the changes would translate, but happy happy joy joy its better. Love for the p bag
It's funny because from the last campaign with all of those different crates i had gotten this and 2 more teir 7 crusiers in 1 run. All together in that update i had gotten around 8 to 10 ships. Edit So I had gotten 12 ships West Virginia Al Baltimore Ibuki B Exeter B Al Q. Elizabeth Perfect 10 Z-39B Prince Eugen P.Bagration Duca D'Aosta B Anshan And Huange
Sounds like a delicious ship. Now I'm wondering if i should save for it or rush the petro. Opinion? Bear in mind that I dont have many tier 8 fun cruisers
and this is why I don't sell ships or "pass" on campaigns - ESPECIALLY the ones with seemingly mediocre ships (although I always thought PBag was pretty decent).
Hey there, Aaron! I'm almost done with 750k GXP... I was thinking of taking the Suzuya now. But do you think it's more worth taking the P. Bagration instead of the Suzuya? Thanks!
There's players more qualified to answer than me as I don't actually have PBag but I'd definitely go PBag over Suzuya. IJN cruisers can dish out damage but struggle for game impact, Soviet cruisers have more carry potential. PBag is going to be my next GXP ship. Hopefully some more people post their thoughts too.
I too have noticed an increase lately in the number of destroyers. I play tier 7 solo most of the time so I don't know if this is universal, or not. As for the current competency level of DDs it seems that very little has changed since the very beginning of the game, with the exception of a tiny smattering of excellent players who seem to have the capacity to actually improve their game over time. After about 3 months of playing, beginning at release, I deleted this game and swore I would never play again. Seeing the DDs on my team continually evaporate within the opening minutes was turning me into a slavering infuriated madman. I decided to return 6 weeks later with a mission in mind. For over 600 games straight I played nothing but USN gunboats and hunted destroyers almost exclusively, and ruthlessly, until my intense need for their destruction was adequately satisfied. When I saw the win rate for those 640 games recently I felt another flush of satisfaction. It would not be an exaggeration to say that I absolutely despise incompetent destroyer players to this day. The lack of respect you demonstrated for the DD in this game was a joy to behold. I will chip the rust off the old Bag.. that I have left rotting in the harbor, and find me some DD bote booties to belt. Good game, as always. Thank you.
@@whereruaaron this game is a 6vs3. The lesser group have a choice at start (1) hold until support arrives from other side or (2) retreat and regroup. Looking at the map both red/blue teams are rotating then coming to the center with each of their own number of forces. It’s the same as battlefield (I know you play conquest most)
anyone know where to find ship data ? since the new patch i noticed my mackensen isnt dev striking anything anymore, and my tennese makes everything else look tier 1 ; just curious what i need to buff on diff ships
Genuinely trying to improve my cruiser play I love the pyotr but definitely struggling on the pvp .... Sticking through the video keyword sticking through, honestly never known what to properly do on the game
Stepan Makarov all day for me. I will take battle info over DPM on the Russian lights and heavies a high level LemonYay is great for going dark faster.
@@whereruaaron yes mate she's a nice addition, having fun with it so far.. got to used to cruisers thought I'd try improve on destroyers.. vary things up stop stagnation setting in
I don't hear people talking about this but.....the DD player base has been falling off and with all these radar cruisers who wants to be a dd anymore, I can't blame them. They need to bring in radar jammer or something this is a huge balance issue imo
Ehh not really, it was way too easy to play DD before, just sail to the outside of the map. It's definitely more difficult and unless its a CV game its up to the skill of the DD captain to control the outcome
Wow of course they would make another HE spammer completely broken by buffing the crap out of it. Where’s the buffs to the battleships who desperately need it? I’m constantly burned down every game or my dispersion is so bad I can’t hit targets past 10km!
It's not an HE spammer nor is it broken, if you find yourself unable to counter cruisers I suggest moving your battleship and not sitting in one square, movement, concealment and target prioritization are all skills battleship players need in order to play them effective
I don't why I said "friendly Colorado" is was definitely a Kansas the whole time*
That sir, is because your a bot. But we love you regardless 😘
Everything is a Colorado if u squint hard enough
Well sir, he was trying to group up with you, firing HE, and spamming the comm wheel. I think we'd all make that mistake.
The irony is Bagration was judged as a mediocre ship back then. Now it is buffed and became a good ship, what would happen to Z44 in the future? Thats why I dont skip campaigns.
Very true brother
It wasn't mediocre, it was absolutely terrible 😂😂😂
Bingo
Azuma as well. Don’t judge a ship from the beginning 😂
I’ve been using this ship a lot lately, having 20km range at T7 is insane and you can get 500-900k silver per match
I asked this question yesterday. Thanks for the video.
Haha I knew it was on my list, here ya go
@@whereruaaron so PBag, Suzie (i have AL Atago as a commander), or République?
According to wows fitting tool. The Peterbag'as AP is on par with Baltimore, adding 15% makes her buffed ap pen be on par with tallinn.
I ended up getting this ship in those crates from the last season pass and I didn’t mind it before the buff. I use it for destroyer hunting on the caps with that radar.
GG Comrade. Another reason to always get Admiralty Backing and don't sell ships: bad ones get buffed (eventually). Never been one of my favorites, but the longer ranger of Russian cruisers is great to make DD players get a a new pair of pants. Also use mostly fire, with AL Avrora, that also boosts AP.
This was a massive buff to the P bag and the same thing can happen to any campaign ship that wasn't any good when it first came out.
You just never know when a ship could from a 2019 Redbull F1 to a 2023 and a chad Aaron behind the wheel aka Max Verstappen. Had to put a F1 reference in.
I kove how many people are getting into F1 lately, i haven't missed a race since 1990 and love the sport so much.
GG Aaron.
Bro i cant die in this thing and it fucking can hit 12k salvos on yamatos and gk etc every 7.8 seconds thats wild💀
It dod get better. I took it out for a spin after the buff. Noticeable difference. I was suspect on whether the changes would translate, but happy happy joy joy its better. Love for the p bag
It's funny because from the last campaign with all of those different crates i had gotten this and 2 more teir 7 crusiers in 1 run. All together in that update i had gotten around 8 to 10 ships.
Edit
So I had gotten 12 ships
West Virginia
Al Baltimore
Ibuki B
Exeter B
Al Q. Elizabeth
Perfect 10
Z-39B
Prince Eugen
P.Bagration
Duca D'Aosta B
Anshan
And
Huange
Love PBag! It's a bowtanky cruiser! Kinda like the Petro.
Can we get a Kronstadt buff? 😂 its literally my favorite cruiser even though sometimes i get disappointed
I actually got this ship from the last update. In the super christmas crate
Great ship 👌🏻
Currently giving my wallet the nastiest side eye right now…
SIDE EYEEEEE
@@whereruaaron😐😐😐
Finally I’m getting settled in college, should be able to join your stream tonight
I like how different all teir 7 Russian cruisers play
Sounds like a delicious ship. Now I'm wondering if i should save for it or rush the petro. Opinion? Bear in mind that I dont have many tier 8 fun cruisers
Ohhh thats a tough one, this one does have the premium designation so it might be nice to have
I thought it was great before the buff 😆👌
Ah just when I make up my mind to go for suzuya this comes out. Now I can't decide 😅😅
and this is why I don't sell ships or "pass" on campaigns - ESPECIALLY the ones with seemingly mediocre ships (although I always thought PBag was pretty decent).
Hey there, Aaron! I'm almost done with 750k GXP... I was thinking of taking the Suzuya now. But do you think it's more worth taking the P. Bagration instead of the Suzuya? Thanks!
There's players more qualified to answer than me as I don't actually have PBag but I'd definitely go PBag over Suzuya. IJN cruisers can dish out damage but struggle for game impact, Soviet cruisers have more carry potential. PBag is going to be my next GXP ship. Hopefully some more people post their thoughts too.
I too have noticed an increase lately in the number of destroyers. I play tier 7 solo most of the time so I don't know if this is universal, or not. As for the current competency level of DDs it seems that very little has changed since the very beginning of the game, with the exception of a tiny smattering of excellent players who seem to have the capacity to actually improve their game over time. After about 3 months of playing, beginning at release, I deleted this game and swore I would never play again. Seeing the DDs on my team continually evaporate within the opening minutes was turning me into a slavering infuriated madman. I decided to return 6 weeks later with a mission in mind. For over 600 games straight I played nothing but USN gunboats and hunted destroyers almost exclusively, and ruthlessly, until my intense need for their destruction was adequately satisfied. When I saw the win rate for those 640 games recently I felt another flush of satisfaction. It would not be an exaggeration to say that I absolutely despise incompetent destroyer players to this day. The lack of respect you demonstrated for the DD in this game was a joy to behold.
I will chip the rust off the old Bag.. that I have left rotting in the harbor, and find me some DD bote booties to belt. Good game, as always. Thank you.
I got this boat for free last christmas so guess i got lucky especially now that they buffed her
I have lightful 16/4 and man it is accurate
Along with a 8 second reload
Positioning is the later. A sense of *direction* is a must first in all shooting games most player forget.
In a game where you are given a set spawn, positioning is far more important
@@whereruaaron this game is a 6vs3. The lesser group have a choice at start (1) hold until support arrives from other side or (2) retreat and regroup. Looking at the map both red/blue teams are rotating then coming to the center with each of their own number of forces. It’s the same as battlefield (I know you play conquest most)
anyone know where to find ship data ? since the new patch i noticed my mackensen isnt dev striking anything anymore, and my tennese makes everything else look tier 1 ; just curious what i need to buff on diff ships
That's just RNG mate but discord is a place you can ask questions like that
Torp accuracy is 7% as a DD main at 200ish battles.
Bingo...zone torps for the win
Got this ship the other day played it ounce I might have to dive back into it have another go
How’d you like it
Yep you're right! Im sick of these 4 and 5 destroyer + carrier matches. Even when I'm in a destroyer.
Genuinely trying to improve my cruiser play I love the pyotr but definitely struggling on the pvp .... Sticking through the video keyword sticking through, honestly never known what to properly do on the game
Kinda pissed I sold the p bag like a year ago lol lesson learned
You can get them back if you have the silver
Should i give up on the Stalingrad grind at 1.4m GXP and get this instead??
oof thats a tough one...I love Stalingrad but she suffers so much now
My highest damage game in this ship was before it got any buffs
Haxer
What's the difference between this and the Riga?
A bunch! Gun caliber, reload, torpedos
So what if I already have this ship? Should I buy it again?
Sell it and buy it again :)
Completely on you! As long as you pay your fantasy football dues lol
Pytor Bagration Bandwagon incoming. SMH
Stepan Makarov all day for me.
I will take battle info over DPM on the Russian lights and heavies
a high level LemonYay is great for going dark faster.
Definitely an option! its useful for re positioning
So glad I never sold this campaign ship
That wasn't inexperience with the enemy Colorado, that was a lack of understanding of basic game mechanics.
Great video! It would be even greater if you didn’t speak 😂❤
lol
Just saw the first 3 minutes of the video and i am so confused right now
Might be cuz ur dum
😂😂😂
Good thing I left it mothballed
Went and got zf6 instead 😂
ZF6 is strong, no wrong move in that!
@@whereruaaron yes mate she's a nice addition, having fun with it so far.. got to used to cruisers thought I'd try improve on destroyers.. vary things up stop stagnation setting in
Got it long ago...was mediocre to me...Dusted it off and seems better..
I still love my petro
Lmao.. not my favourite streamer telling people to get a tier 7 premium Russian version of the Omaha.. I'm all for it
Hahaha bro its good!
@@whereruaaron I know but what's better is when people take a good ship and sail broadside and then wonder 'WTH just happened'
Give me 250k gxp and I will ta
I don't hear people talking about this but.....the DD player base has been falling off and with all these radar cruisers who wants to be a dd anymore, I can't blame them. They need to bring in radar jammer or something this is a huge balance issue imo
Ehh not really, it was way too easy to play DD before, just sail to the outside of the map. It's definitely more difficult and unless its a CV game its up to the skill of the DD captain to control the outcome
Wow of course they would make another HE spammer completely broken by buffing the crap out of it. Where’s the buffs to the battleships who desperately need it? I’m constantly burned down every game or my dispersion is so bad I can’t hit targets past 10km!
It's not an HE spammer nor is it broken, if you find yourself unable to counter cruisers I suggest moving your battleship and not sitting in one square, movement, concealment and target prioritization are all skills battleship players need in order to play them effective
Still not a fan of the P.Bag.
She's difficult to master but really fun
Im gonna miss this ship because i have no money rip
You get GPX for free just playing the game. Save it up.🙂
You can use global mate!