LIKE if you like think all vans should be electric & SHARE if you want to spread the word! In this final episode of our electric van series we're going small, not big, as we look at the small but mighty Renault Zoe van. Essentially it's a converted Renault Zoe but it's perfect for lighter loads and has a pretty punchy range with rapid charging options. Andy also catches up with Robert for a recap of all the vans we have covered in the series and why it makes sense for businesses to go electric. With so many electric vans coming to market in 2021, make sure you tell us in the comments below what you would like us to cover next! Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to UA-cam Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel and its mission: Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a UA-cam member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow Timestamps: 0:00 Going small 0:16 Renault Zoe van 1:01 Business at the front 1:27 Zoe charging 1:43 Small size, big range 2:01 Charging lesson 2:14 Wall chargers 3:01 Vehicle-to-grid 3:52 Short journeys 4:12 Rapid charging 4:34 Have a break 5:15 In the back 5:46 Light loads 6:29 Electric van love 7:42 On the road 8:07 Make money 9:54 Off-peak tariffs 11:18 Vauxhall Vivaro-e 12:21 Mercedes e-Vito 13:01 Maxus e-Deliver 13:36 Renault Kangoo 14:13 Vans we missed 14:58 Smaller vans 15:33 Load capacity 15:50 VW Buzz Cargo 16:50 Bobby's bladder 17:18 Delivery vans 18:19 Big year for vans 18:48 Susbcribe, support, join
Thanks for the series. I have to say though that the VW Buzz looks ugly, as if it has been based on a neutered VW Bus. Maybe different colours will help.
Absolutely. I’ve never considered the impact the electrification of the millions of vans in the country could make, how the savings could push big companies in this direction, or how it could really pave the way towards acceptance in the wider community. Great stuff. Wish I had a reason to buy a van!
I have noticed that leasing companies are offering to review telematics data to help select the right van options for the next fleet. This should help to pick the right option for the real world.
Thanks for the video. I have been driving vans for about 50 years and appreciate your series on electric vans. My next one will be an electric van. I hope you continue your van series as more come out. I have converted all my vans to " Touring Vans" ( camper vans without beds).
Absolutely. All vans should be electric. All cars should be electric. As fast as possible. I am very glad to see the electric conversion of vans is happening in a fast pace. Almost all models are already converted to electric.
Every time I see the Arrival UPS van I like it even more. I really hope they're successful with that vehicle and the big bus. I'd really like to see them come to the USA as well. The little Zoe van seems like it would be good for small shop deliveries, such as food or flowers or candygrams! With the big flat backend it could be really good for pizza delivery.
I love watching on my 4K tv, having said that the message that you are putting across is one that should be produced and promoted by the government. I would hope that the business community have taken time to watch this and invest time in looking at the cost of operating. Nice casual-reduction, thanks.
My Neighbour in Felixstowe had an had an accent similar to his, I'm American he always kidded me about my accent 😆 told me he couldna' understan' a bloody word I said. I could understand him and after a few pints at the nearby pub we got along brilliantly. 😃
Like to see an updated review of new options every 6 months or a year as vans are not updated as often but they are big news when there is a new model so even a monthly update would be too frequent.
Me and friend were talking about this topic the other night online, that local deliveries like for food and groceries and the short range anxiety that some people have, I remember a few years ago about wireless charging for EV's where you drive over a pad and it charges the battery sort of like charging your mobile phone with a wireless charger but the problem is the drivers would be at a business for a short bit of time not enough to get a charge worth anything. But still a small electric van is appealing, If I wasn't retired I would have used one in my Media business to haul lights, backdrops, props and such. Since the pandemic hit 99% of my work is online. I wouldn't mind renting a EV van for a weekend trip 😀
The initial scene (conversation on the business place/table) seams to have a very different look and feel. Kind of cinema like. Great colors and contrast without a lot of light.
FC has subtly but very effectively tweaked their staging to maintain social distancing while still looking and feeling very natural, allowing us to watch and listen to presenters without masks. It's been noticed before; these guys are clearly very good at what they're doing.
may be some would like to see how you convert an ev in to a camper version series how to do it what you need and looking at costs then do a tour with vts every day during the tour showing how easy it is to get places as people stiill believe that you cant charge an electric vehicle
Thank you for a great series really enjoyable. A lot of us will have vans or camper vans that are to valuable to change any time soon, how about a episode on converting are vehicles so we can all share the love?
That little Renault Zoe looks great for small deliveries, like food deliveries and smaller parcel services. The Vauxhall Vivaro was really cool to see with the Solar PV system going up in the background. + the Arrival UPS Truck & The Volkswagen E-Crafter both look really cool as well! Very glad to have watched this, thanks Fully Charged Crew for the awesome updates
They always say people leave the best to last.. So it was nice to see this Zoe is on the final van series. Europes best selling EV 👌 Europe's best priced EV against range 👍 Europe's best EV Club ⚡
I want to see a more in-depth look at a Zoe Van ... What are those rear-side door panels/windows, for example? Can they be colour-coded to the van? If the van is basically a Zoe car, with a van-platform added in the back, what happens to all that space from the car's rear seats/footwells and boot area? Is it simply boxed off, and potentially accessible with a little conversion work? (I presume that the load-area floor is basically a plywood platfom). How flat does the passenger seat fold down? (A lot of small vans' passenger seats fold effectively flat, giving the driver a useable desk/platform ...). Yes, I think we definitely need a more in-depth look ... Pretty please ...
Looking forward to the next van series! Also could we see what the big fleets are doing: Royal Mail, DPD, British Gas, Police never mind the public utilities such as buses, taxis, shuttles?
Brilliant series, please educate me on what other vans are coming. I can't wait for a time when all my Ebay and Amazon deliveries come in electric vehicles.
Love the show but it is a shame you couldn't show any big vans, especially the relatively cheap Maxus Edeliver 9 and similar sizes. These are the van sizes most would use. Anyway, I'll take a ID Buzz please
Awesome series on the vans. Like Andy, I’m just waiting for a small van that I can convert to a mini camper to replace my VW caddy maxi. I need 250 miles and an affordable second hand price. I see that British Gas have invested heavily in the Vauxhall so it’ll most likely be one of those. Love the show. Keep up the great work. J
Good programme thanks, not much about the Zoe van really but can you even call it a van? Blacked out side windows, a stronger parcel shelf and a half hearted bulkhead?
Thanks. I've really enjoyed this series on electric vans. I live in Rochester, Minnesota, USA, a town of just over 100,000. I don't remember ever seeing an electric van here, but I am very interested in checking it out. We have a very active electric car community here with about 400 electric vehicles in town. I'm checking with an electric car owner I know who works at the local electric utility to see if he knows of any electric vans in town. Our electric utility is only just now getting started in tracking EV usage in town as it relates to charging load on the "last mile" of the distribution network. Follow up: It turns out there are no electric vans available to buy in this area, so there are none being used.
Excellent series! What I'd like to see is all the chats, like with Andy and Robert here, giving the basic information, stats and financial benefits into one video. So it could be something we could share with our bosses, managers and co-workers to get them on the band wagon too. Spreading the Fully Charged goodness and message.
Seems like there's a lot of wasted space in what would have been the rear seat and footwell area. Yes, a long, flat floor is a good thing but they could have made storage bins or even just have it open at the sides so it would be accessible even with the main cargo area full.
Would love to see the I.D. Buzz Cargo & e-Crafter! Especially from the perspective of wheelchair conversions & how systems can be integrated with things like hydraulic lifts without drastically reducing range. Also want to see a conversation started about accessible charging spaces (all spaces, not just a separate space provided here & there). I can already see issues of accessibility, getting to the charger if rear to kerb parking is required, how is someone with a rear load lift meant to get out & charge? I’m from Aus & feel we’re a little way off but would be great to see these things being thought about now!
It would be most appreciated if in your videos you could show in more detail the cargo/booth areas with back seats folded. Anything that could help us understand if the loading floor is all flat and if users can sleep in the back (measurements would help too). I am also looking for a small/medium van that can be used for camping. Hopefully a functional, simple and affordable version of the VW ID Buzz will be on the market soon :)
I'll only ever drive a van for moving home, and now I only want to do that in an electric van! Can't find any to rent nearby yet, but fingers crossed that will happen soon. On vehicle-to-grid, I wonder if we need to start shouting about it when a car/van manufacturer offers it. Make it a deal-breaker!
A long time is the answer, I have an electric boat which has 4.6kws of solar on the roof, ok I am in the UK but my boat runs at 3.3kw at 3mph, solar can just about keep up. When I am in locks I gain because motor not running same when moored. I can operate late spring to early autumn, I have a genny running on biodiesel for winter and emergency, my boat is 57 foot long by 12 foot wide and weighs 33 tons. Electric boats are becoming more popular because ICE is due to be banned in new boats in the future. Doesn't help you of course
@@peterszczesiak6025 Interesting! I’m thinking of the case where extra panels are carried to setup outside the vehicle during rest stops. Do you do that with your boat?
I see an electric Amazon delivery vav pretty much every day now. It would be interesting to find out how they're getting on. Are they getting the savings that they expected? Are they getting any unforeseen downtime? Nice to see
Good series. A pity that it wasn't really possible to get all the vans you wanted to do. But that leaves a lot of scope for a second series later in the year of the others.
I currently work for a medical supply company delivering around 35 to 45 packages a day. We are investigating the idea of changing over to electric vans for our fleet. We’re looking at 25 vans in 25 locations. I’m the test driver. We’re currently using partners and caddy’s. The issue we have is range. I cover around 150 miles a day around the northwest of England. Some of the other drivers do a bit more some less. I’m currently testing the env200, then the kangoo. I’m currently leaning toward a short wheelbase vivaro though I haven’t driven the ev version of it yet although it’s a bit big for our purposes it seems right regards range. I know the Zoe is too small from experience driving a Bipper. Any insight you have would be greatly appreciated
It won't take long until electrictiy will be cheaper during the day (thanks to photovoltaics). So you will have to rethink the whole off-peak-charging process. The carbon dioxide footprint of an kWh during the night is probably also worse than the one of an kWh generated during the day.
good shows . But I wonder whether also any progress is made in the recycle aspect of transport electrification in general. We can expect a high increase in electric sales volumes... but the business must also take actions/ responsibilities in recycling of the batterie packs.
I guess in the future, won't really be off peak. As everyone will be charging their EVs overnight. I would have loved EV van, instant torque and no slow noisey diesel engine!
Great episode. Next time do you think you could mention which of the electric vans will be using LFP batteries? Maybe Mercedes, VW, Ford, others are inching towards LFP for good reason and an economically priced working person's van should use LFP, that's a no-brainer.
Any suggestions for conversion to a Camper van. Converting an Ice van to electric is expensive. I'm thinking I could start with an electric van, then convert to Camper?
Being single with a small dog, I don't really need the rear seats anyway, a Zoe van could be an interesting option as my daily driver personal car - as long as I can put my mountainbike in it fairly easilly. Question now is - would it be easy to put a bike in the rear? What do you think?
I understand that the majority of van miles is done within localities but these short ranges are just not enough for all the trades that cover vast rural counties. I'd love to replace my Caddy with an electric van (at reasonable cost) but I do cover all of Wales, the East Midlands, some of the South West and up to Buckinghamshire and Yorkshire. So a 100-150 mile range in winter won't allow me to provide the emergency cover I have to my customers. Haarumph...
It sounds to me like the van you need is still a few years away. Where do you operate? From home or from a commercial site? If I were you, looking to electrify but with long surprise trips very likely, I'd look into getting 3-phase power to charge the van (and possibly a 25kW DC charger, but those are a bit costly). This would allow you to fully charge a 200-250 mile range van in ~4 hours, or charge it from 10% to 80% in less than 3 hours. Would you have that sort of time between jobs to charge? The EV manufacturers do seem to want to make certain vehicles and certain offerings first. Luxury cars like the Tesla Model S and Model 3, then small-to-medium cars like the Nissan Leaf and Renault Zoe, now SUVs like the Hyundai Kona and VW ID.4. For the vans, they seem more interested in building bigger ones - I bet something like the Vauxhall Vivaro-e is outside your price bracket, which is a shame, because that seems like the kind of van that has the up-to-date technology and long-range powertrain that you need. Give it a few years and hopefully they'll bring out some smaller vans with better tech - something like your VW Caddy, but based on VW's MEB platform they're using for the ID.3 and ID.4. Fingers crossed. That's a bonkers area that you're covering, by the way. It's almost half the country. That must be a tough job.
@@gigabyte2248 I'm just a one-man band operating from home. I'm operating in a fairly specific field and hence my customer base does stretch a bit. About 70% are in South Wales, where I'm based and in the Eastern Midlands though.
Perhaps, I know all the chargers on my regular routes. Nowadays I have confidence to drive pretty much anywhere in my EVs. If you're not used to driving EVs, I reckon you'll hate it as you'll be trying to follow the old ways of driving to empty and then filling up. With an EV you always try to charge if you've stopped. Even if it's only a 13amp plug. If it's not moving, it can charge. There are more charging places in the UK than petrol stations, but I'm guessing you've heard that old chestnut and you're not yet convinced. 😌
@@HairyCheese no.. actually i drive ev but its a bad one only 55/60 range when fully charged. This quickly runs out then i try to charge only to find out there is a queue even at night. Very frustrating
@@0o603 my local area is ok, but I have a habit now with free chargers and motorway charging (with the odd business park). I get by. It helps one of our cars is a Tesla, but we've only ever charged that in the wild twice. Once on Ecotricity and once with Tesla.... Oopsi 😘
that zoe, seems a bit of a lazy conversion, not really a van more a car with no back seats, the kangoo makes more sense to me. although I would definitely look into a transporter sized EV in the future when I come to sell my current diesel transporter
Its a metre so the same cargo area as the Corsa and Fiesta van. Also, I wonder if people will buy them just as you get 8k off a commercial ev rather than 4k off the car.
I'm suprised why Renault haven't put the technology of the Zoe into the Kangoo yet. They must be planning on it but i think they are waiting for the next generation of the Kangoo body to be ready first.
@@jameseckersley4926 I think cos with the other car derived vans they mostly are 3 door and have metal panels in the windows where this is basically the exact same as the car. that's an idea. Buy the 'van' and put seats in it for a nice 4k saving 😉
I was thinking the same... if that amount of cargo space is all you need, then why wouldn't you just get a normal Zoe and put the seats down? Can't see the point of this...
@@snowstrobe i think these vans are aimed at the business market because they can't use cars for tax reasons, they have to be classed as vans. Nothing stopping a private business person using their car for delivering I'd guess.
I live in a small town in Texas. I drive 4 older people to doctor visits in a large city 40 miles from my town. I'm looking for a passenger van to transport the elderly to and from the doctors office with about 150 round trip range.
Nissan e-nv200 Evalia. - a 7 seater, with 5 rear seats that fold to side & floor to offer versatile load space. You'll think it expensive mind having only 7.2kw charging as standard and doing 150 miles at a pinch. Hope all above is correct... take care
Enjoyed watching the series on electric vans, bit surprised you didn't cover the Nissan e-NV200 though, the first and arguably best selling electric van in the UK?
V2G is going to be the next big disruptor. With large fleet owners who have the good sense to install utility-scale solar on their properties to augment their charging scheme, the vehicle becomes a multi-pronged revenue generator beyond merely moving goods and services to customers, but the means by which goods (or strictly speaking commodities in the form of utility power) can be leveraged for best price. For a bit of expansion on this, watch Cole the Cornstar explaining how and why the million-dollar expense of an array of grain storage bins on the family farm is such a smart investment.
I am so excited about V2G. It's a shame that CCS is so far behind CHAdeMO - the Nissan e-NV200 is already capable of V2G, and I think Nissan might yet lead the charge once the CCS bidirectional standards are finalised. Renault are also working on AC V2G, too. I'm cautiously optimistic that by maybe 2025 the demand for V2G will be increasing. This video (and series) make me wonder whether the commercial vehicle world will be pushing harder for V2G than private owners - private owners tend to get sentimental about their cars (y'know, worries about battery degradation that don't actually have much basis is reality) but for commercial fleets, it's just money money money.
After driving an old leaf for 2 years the battery capacity was reduced by about 20%.. Running a full charge cycle every day to earn money from the electric seems hopeless to me.. Batteries would be useless before long.
@@sceptic33 What on Earth did you do to that battery? Bought a 2018 Leaf half a year ago and it still has >95% of its new capacity. The reliable articles I find indicate
@@gigabyte2248 was only used to buzz around London, a few trips to Brighton.. usually charged with 7kw at home, only occasionally using fast charge on motorway..
@@sceptic33 A Leaf is a poor example. Their design is deeply flawed. No, for V2G to work your use case has to be leaving a significant portion of the vehicle's capacity available for picking up excess charge for supplying to the grid after hours. It should be a fairly straightforward matter of writing it into the charger's controller aboard the car. After a few weeks of living with you, it should know your typical use and be able to anticipate, to a degree, what kind of use it's going to get in the next day and adjust capacity availability accordingly.
wondering if you could clarify, I have checked on the Vauxhall site for range of Vivaro states 110miles at 60 mph for laden mass of 2000kg is this an empty weight or with 2000kg added, the reason I ask is I would want to use as a basic camper van with virtually no weight
That car/van is too small for me but nice idea. That bulkhead needs to come out so I can get my ladders in. I need 300mile real world range. I’m frequently driving 200mile + to job sites where there is no charging infrastructure then stay over in hotels, again no overnight charging. Charging at service stations taking more than 20minutes is not acceptable, I don’t get time to swan around while my vehicle charges. We really need more destination chargers.
Being a Postie I see at the weekend all the traders who live in council houses are parked on the street, no where near any potential charging points, so again the poor people are going to be hit the hardest, and loose out on these running cost savings. So how do they get round this problem, build new parking charging spaces, which would mean less green spaces! It’s a real problem!
Does anyone know whether the cheap rate times cost etc varies from provider to provider, is it set by government ? This would have a bearing on viability of buying cheap and selling back
Cheap rate varies between suppliers, anywhere between 12 (midnight) and 1 to start, and 7 to 8am to finish on economy 7. If you go for a Time Of Use deal, it is also cheapest at those times, but if the weather is sunny and windy then it can also be cheap during the day, but most expensive between 4 pm and 7pm.
Hello chaps, So apart from Arrival....hmmm 🤷♂️ No electric van is made in the UK??..please correct me if I am wrong. Will there be a higher price to import them from the EU post Brexit? I am French and will get a used Zoe 50 next time.. Cordialement,
I wouldn't call that a van, it's not even a station wagon(estate) based on that idea you could take almost any car/hatchback and rip out the insides and call it a van . I also disagree with the argument of having a small battery just because you do short trips, in a petrol/diesel car you don't have a "Jerry can" for a fuel tank that you fill up every day, just have a decent size battery that you charge every few days or so and also you'll have the range if you need to go further on occasion. I think this is just a workaround because no one wants to spend the money on rapid charger infrastructure to accommodate vehicles with larger batteries.
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In this final episode of our electric van series we're going small, not big, as we look at the small but mighty Renault Zoe van. Essentially it's a converted Renault Zoe but it's perfect for lighter loads and has a pretty punchy range with rapid charging options.
Andy also catches up with Robert for a recap of all the vans we have covered in the series and why it makes sense for businesses to go electric. With so many electric vans coming to market in 2021, make sure you tell us in the comments below what you would like us to cover next!
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Timestamps:
0:00 Going small
0:16 Renault Zoe van
1:01 Business at the front
1:27 Zoe charging
1:43 Small size, big range
2:01 Charging lesson
2:14 Wall chargers
3:01 Vehicle-to-grid
3:52 Short journeys
4:12 Rapid charging
4:34 Have a break
5:15 In the back
5:46 Light loads
6:29 Electric van love
7:42 On the road
8:07 Make money
9:54 Off-peak tariffs
11:18 Vauxhall Vivaro-e
12:21 Mercedes e-Vito
13:01 Maxus e-Deliver
13:36 Renault Kangoo
14:13 Vans we missed
14:58 Smaller vans
15:33 Load capacity
15:50 VW Buzz Cargo
16:50 Bobby's bladder
17:18 Delivery vans
18:19 Big year for vans
18:48 Susbcribe, support, join
Thanks for the series. I have to say though that the VW Buzz looks ugly, as if it has been based on a neutered VW Bus. Maybe different colours will help.
I've found this series really interesting despite the fact that I am not in the market for a van
Same.
me too, I watched all the episodes
Absolutely. I’ve never considered the impact the electrification of the millions of vans in the country could make, how the savings could push big companies in this direction, or how it could really pave the way towards acceptance in the wider community. Great stuff. Wish I had a reason to buy a van!
Me too, the company I work for has just ordered four Vivaro and a dozen Zoe on the back of the videos.
I have noticed that leasing companies are offering to review telematics data to help select the right van options for the next fleet. This should help to pick the right option for the real world.
I work out of a Fiesta van so i think I've just found my first EV.
You must be very small😉
@@jimmyh6601 it would be nice if I could afford the vivaro.
@@jameseckersley4926
I'm sure you will one day soon😁
Cool!
A series on e-buses would be nice!
"I want a van that gets filthy and I don't care" - Nailed the concept of a Van.
anyone else mesmerised by the gap in the tables?
Thanks for the video. I have been driving vans for about 50 years and appreciate your series on electric vans. My next one will be an electric van. I hope you continue your van series as more come out. I have converted all my vans to " Touring Vans" ( camper vans without beds).
Excellent series Andy, congrats to you and the FC team! Well done!
Absolutely. All vans should be electric. All cars should be electric. As fast as possible. I am very glad to see the electric conversion of vans is happening in a fast pace. Almost all models are already converted to electric.
Every time I see the Arrival UPS van I like it even more. I really hope they're successful with that vehicle and the big bus. I'd really like to see them come to the USA as well.
The little Zoe van seems like it would be good for small shop deliveries, such as food or flowers or candygrams! With the big flat backend it could be really good for pizza delivery.
Although if you stuff fits in a zoe van then if your trade is fairly local it should probably just go in a cargo bike.
I love watching on my 4K tv, having said that the message that you are putting across is one that should be produced and promoted by the government. I would hope that the business community have taken time to watch this and invest time in looking at the cost of operating. Nice casual-reduction, thanks.
Looking forward to the electric campervan conversion series :)
I'm still never going to get used to the way this guy says van.
My Neighbour in Felixstowe had an had an accent similar to his, I'm American he always kidded me about my accent 😆 told me he couldna' understan' a bloody word I said. I could understand him and after a few pints at the nearby pub we got along brilliantly. 😃
Few pints in a Pub, must be long time ago ... 😉
@@weissmannrob
👍 late 80's early 90's I was an expat working for a UK cargo company.
Vaahn?
Like to see an updated review of new options every 6 months or a year as vans are not updated as often but they are big news when there is a new model so even a monthly update would be too frequent.
Me and friend were talking about this topic the other night online, that local deliveries like for food and groceries and the short range anxiety that some people have, I remember a few years ago about wireless charging for EV's where you drive over a pad and it charges the battery sort of like charging your mobile phone with a wireless charger but the problem is the drivers would be at a business for a short bit of time not enough to get a charge worth anything.
But still a small electric van is appealing, If I wasn't retired I would have used one in my Media business to haul lights, backdrops, props and such.
Since the pandemic hit 99% of my work is online.
I wouldn't mind renting a EV van for a weekend trip 😀
Really good show, Andy and Robert. Lots of good info on electric vans.
The initial scene (conversation on the business place/table) seams to have a very different look and feel. Kind of cinema like. Great colors and contrast without a lot of light.
FC has subtly but very effectively tweaked their staging to maintain social distancing while still looking and feeling very natural, allowing us to watch and listen to presenters without masks. It's been noticed before; these guys are clearly very good at what they're doing.
Thank you Andy for the amazing series!
may be some would like to see how you convert an ev in to a camper version series
how to do it what you need and looking at costs
then do a tour with vts every day during the tour showing how easy it is to get places as people stiill believe that you cant charge an electric vehicle
The Vivaro as a campervan?!? My brain just exploded!!! Off course :O
Really informative and enjoyable series. Keep it up 👍🏻
Fully instructive as always 👏🏻
Thank you for a great series really enjoyable. A lot of us will have vans or camper vans that are to valuable to change any time soon, how about a episode on converting are vehicles so we can all share the love?
That little Renault Zoe looks great for small deliveries, like food deliveries and smaller parcel services. The Vauxhall Vivaro was really cool to see with the Solar PV system going up in the background. + the Arrival UPS Truck & The Volkswagen E-Crafter both look really cool as well! Very glad to have watched this, thanks Fully Charged Crew for the awesome updates
What about the Morris JE van which is an update on the 1950's Morris J van?
They always say people leave the best to last.. So it was nice to see this Zoe is on the final van series.
Europes best selling EV 👌 Europe's best priced EV against range 👍 Europe's best EV Club ⚡
Give us a 200 mile MWB van... for an actual reasonable price. There is no excuse for them being more expensive that diesel vans anymore
I want to see a more in-depth look at a Zoe Van ... What are those rear-side door panels/windows, for example? Can they be colour-coded to the van? If the van is basically a Zoe car, with a van-platform added in the back, what happens to all that space from the car's rear seats/footwells and boot area? Is it simply boxed off, and potentially accessible with a little conversion work? (I presume that the load-area floor is basically a plywood platfom). How flat does the passenger seat fold down? (A lot of small vans' passenger seats fold effectively flat, giving the driver a useable desk/platform ...). Yes, I think we definitely need a more in-depth look ... Pretty please ...
4-wheel drive vans, with 2 tonne towing, for us lot who are doing fencing on farms, double cab vans with flat beds on the back. Tree surgeons.
Looking forward to the next van series!
Also could we see what the big fleets are doing: Royal Mail, DPD, British Gas, Police never mind the public utilities such as buses, taxis, shuttles?
Brilliant series, please educate me on what other vans are coming. I can't wait for a time when all my Ebay and Amazon deliveries come in electric vehicles.
Love the show but it is a shame you couldn't show any big vans, especially the relatively cheap Maxus Edeliver 9 and similar sizes. These are the van sizes most would use.
Anyway, I'll take a ID Buzz please
I'm holding out for the VW iCargo. Wish there was more information About it and possible release date.
Where have you heard of that?
The ID Buzz got delayed to 2023 I think, so would assume the cargo variant is similarly delayed. Major bummer.
Have you not overlooked the ENV200 in this series? They have been far for successful than Renault's offerings since day one :/
They said they didn't include it because they couldn't get the new model.
@@snowstrobe Yep true. Deserved a more honourable mention tho.
It was a real shame we couldn’t include it. But I absolutely know we tried our hardest 😷
I wanted to see the Mitsubishi FUSO eCanter. This is the type of vans my parents use on a day by day basis. Wanted to see a proper review of it.
Awesome series on the vans. Like Andy, I’m just waiting for a small van that I can convert to a mini camper to replace my VW caddy maxi. I need 250 miles and an affordable second hand price. I see that British Gas have invested heavily in the Vauxhall so it’ll most likely be one of those.
Love the show. Keep up the great work. J
Good programme thanks, not much about the Zoe van really but can you even call it a van? Blacked out side windows, a stronger parcel shelf and a half hearted bulkhead?
There was a Land Rover Discovery with the same setup. I went for a Navara back in the day (van tax baby)
Doesn’t a normal Zoe have rear seats ?
Thanks. I've really enjoyed this series on electric vans. I live in Rochester, Minnesota, USA, a town of just over 100,000. I don't remember ever seeing an electric van here, but I am very interested in checking it out. We have a very active electric car community here with about 400 electric vehicles in town. I'm checking with an electric car owner I know who works at the local electric utility to see if he knows of any electric vans in town. Our electric utility is only just now getting started in tracking EV usage in town as it relates to charging load on the "last mile" of the distribution network. Follow up: It turns out there are no electric vans available to buy in this area, so there are none being used.
Excellent series! What I'd like to see is all the chats, like with Andy and Robert here, giving the basic information, stats and financial benefits into one video. So it could be something we could share with our bosses, managers and co-workers to get them on the band wagon too.
Spreading the Fully Charged goodness and message.
Seems like there's a lot of wasted space in what would have been the rear seat and footwell area. Yes, a long, flat floor is a good thing but they could have made storage bins or even just have it open at the sides so it would be accessible even with the main cargo area full.
I've seen DPD electric vans around here quite often, I'm always (oddly) excited to see one pootling about.
Would love to see the I.D. Buzz Cargo & e-Crafter! Especially from the perspective of wheelchair conversions & how systems can be integrated with things like hydraulic lifts without drastically reducing range. Also want to see a conversation started about accessible charging spaces (all spaces, not just a separate space provided here & there). I can already see issues of accessibility, getting to the charger if rear to kerb parking is required, how is someone with a rear load lift meant to get out & charge?
I’m from Aus & feel we’re a little way off but would be great to see these things being thought about now!
I love the information on the delivery side of the market.
I like electric cars and electric vans and better for our future.
surprised that Mini are not making a van.
It would be most appreciated if in your videos you could show in more detail the cargo/booth areas with back seats folded. Anything that could help us understand if the loading floor is all flat and if users can sleep in the back (measurements would help too). I am also looking for a small/medium van that can be used for camping. Hopefully a functional, simple and affordable version of the VW ID Buzz will be on the market soon :)
Back "in the day", we in America had business coupes. A car with no rear seat so salesmen could carry their wares back there.
Cool!
seemingly perfect for plumberes, sparkies etc. lots of small tools in boxes, not needing a full transit van type thing. brill
No not nearly big enough for us. this is probably a lot smaller than you think.
Tools, maybe - but no space for common parts / fittings / fixings, etc. This would be more of a 'rural postie' or similar, perhaps.
Yeah, I'm kind of scratching my head trying to think of the use case for this "van"... Pizza delivery I guess.
I'll only ever drive a van for moving home, and now I only want to do that in an electric van! Can't find any to rent nearby yet, but fingers crossed that will happen soon. On vehicle-to-grid, I wonder if we need to start shouting about it when a car/van manufacturer offers it. Make it a deal-breaker!
Solar EV stealth camper conversions please. Calc how many days you’d need to park between hops around sunny Southern European countries.
Same thoughts...
A long time is the answer, I have an electric boat which has 4.6kws of solar on the roof, ok I am in the UK but my boat runs at 3.3kw at 3mph, solar can just about keep up. When I am in locks I gain because motor not running same when moored. I can operate late spring to early autumn, I have a genny running on biodiesel for winter and emergency, my boat is 57 foot long by 12 foot wide and weighs 33 tons. Electric boats are becoming more popular because ICE is due to be banned in new boats in the future. Doesn't help you of course
@@peterszczesiak6025 Interesting! I’m thinking of the case where extra panels are carried to setup outside the vehicle during rest stops. Do you do that with your boat?
@@AndrewHelgeCox
No they all fit on the roof, it's a big area and I have used big panels sized for the job to fit the maximum amount of watts on there
It's sad that we still have quite a wait for electric vans here the States. My sister needs a wheelchair van ♿
Really useful buying a new van soon and don't want ice
If you do end up converting a van into a camper, please make it into a series on here!
I see an electric Amazon delivery vav pretty much every day now. It would be interesting to find out how they're getting on. Are they getting the savings that they expected? Are they getting any unforeseen downtime?
Nice to see
this was most enjoyable
Good series. A pity that it wasn't really possible to get all the vans you wanted to do.
But that leaves a lot of scope for a second series later in the year of the others.
Some of the Royal Mail EV vans here in Bristol only travel 8 miles a day in the city.
I believe that here in France, if you take out the rear seats and call it a van, you don't pay the TVA (VAT)!
I currently work for a medical supply company delivering around 35 to 45 packages a day. We are investigating the idea of changing over to electric vans for our fleet. We’re looking at 25 vans in 25 locations. I’m the test driver. We’re currently using partners and caddy’s. The issue we have is range. I cover around 150 miles a day around the northwest of England. Some of the other drivers do a bit more some less. I’m currently testing the env200, then the kangoo. I’m currently leaning toward a short wheelbase vivaro though I haven’t driven the ev version of it yet although it’s a bit big for our purposes it seems right regards range. I know the Zoe is too small from experience driving a Bipper. Any insight you have would be greatly appreciated
It won't take long until electrictiy will be cheaper during the day (thanks to photovoltaics). So you will have to rethink the whole off-peak-charging process. The carbon dioxide footprint of an kWh during the night is probably also worse than the one of an kWh generated during the day.
Absolutely van Tastic videos these
Fantastic series thanks.
good shows . But I wonder whether also any progress is made in the recycle aspect of transport electrification in general. We can expect a high increase in electric sales volumes... but the business must also take actions/ responsibilities in recycling of the batterie packs.
I love to hear more about ebussy as sound great idea to be able to swop back section to different uses.
I guess in the future, won't really be off peak. As everyone will be charging their EVs overnight. I would have loved EV van, instant torque and no slow noisey diesel engine!
In the future power will be cheeper when the wind is blowing fast & the sun is shining.
For every cool vehicle we get in North America you guys get a corresponding cool vehicle. I tend to like your choice better.
Thats true, I've never been a fan of American cars and pickups but you get some cool Japenese cars that we don't. I like your old Honda Element.
Great episode. Next time do you think you could mention which of the electric vans will be using LFP batteries? Maybe Mercedes, VW, Ford, others are inching towards LFP for good reason and an economically priced working person's van should use LFP, that's a no-brainer.
Great series, thanks for doing this.
Just need a bit more towing capacity, but it won't be long before I've got a good excuse to sell my old vivaro...
The Kangoo needs this battery and a rapid charger. Heck, even just the rapid charger.
Any suggestions for conversion to a Camper van. Converting an Ice van to electric is expensive. I'm thinking I could start with an electric van, then convert to Camper?
Being single with a small dog, I don't really need the rear seats anyway, a Zoe van could be an interesting option as my daily driver personal car - as long as I can put my mountainbike in it fairly easilly. Question now is - would it be easy to put a bike in the rear? What do you think?
Great summary programme👍
I understand that the majority of van miles is done within localities but these short ranges are just not enough for all the trades that cover vast rural counties. I'd love to replace my Caddy with an electric van (at reasonable cost) but I do cover all of Wales, the East Midlands, some of the South West and up to Buckinghamshire and Yorkshire. So a 100-150 mile range in winter won't allow me to provide the emergency cover I have to my customers. Haarumph...
It sounds to me like the van you need is still a few years away. Where do you operate? From home or from a commercial site? If I were you, looking to electrify but with long surprise trips very likely, I'd look into getting 3-phase power to charge the van (and possibly a 25kW DC charger, but those are a bit costly). This would allow you to fully charge a 200-250 mile range van in ~4 hours, or charge it from 10% to 80% in less than 3 hours. Would you have that sort of time between jobs to charge?
The EV manufacturers do seem to want to make certain vehicles and certain offerings first. Luxury cars like the Tesla Model S and Model 3, then small-to-medium cars like the Nissan Leaf and Renault Zoe, now SUVs like the Hyundai Kona and VW ID.4. For the vans, they seem more interested in building bigger ones - I bet something like the Vauxhall Vivaro-e is outside your price bracket, which is a shame, because that seems like the kind of van that has the up-to-date technology and long-range powertrain that you need. Give it a few years and hopefully they'll bring out some smaller vans with better tech - something like your VW Caddy, but based on VW's MEB platform they're using for the ID.3 and ID.4. Fingers crossed.
That's a bonkers area that you're covering, by the way. It's almost half the country. That must be a tough job.
@@gigabyte2248 I'm just a one-man band operating from home. I'm operating in a fairly specific field and hence my customer base does stretch a bit. About 70% are in South Wales, where I'm based and in the Eastern Midlands though.
I assume you could use the vehicles heater/air conditioner while camping. Can it be used without quickly draining the vehicles batteries.
The infrastructure in the uk for electric vehicles is trouble.. not enough fast charging stations
Perhaps, I know all the chargers on my regular routes. Nowadays I have confidence to drive pretty much anywhere in my EVs. If you're not used to driving EVs, I reckon you'll hate it as you'll be trying to follow the old ways of driving to empty and then filling up. With an EV you always try to charge if you've stopped. Even if it's only a 13amp plug. If it's not moving, it can charge. There are more charging places in the UK than petrol stations, but I'm guessing you've heard that old chestnut and you're not yet convinced. 😌
@@HairyCheese no.. actually i drive ev but its a bad one only 55/60 range when fully charged. This quickly runs out then i try to charge only to find out there is a queue even at night. Very frustrating
@@0o603 my local area is ok, but I have a habit now with free chargers and motorway charging (with the odd business park). I get by. It helps one of our cars is a Tesla, but we've only ever charged that in the wild twice. Once on Ecotricity and once with Tesla.... Oopsi 😘
Why would you need a parcel shelf for a van- also most small vans have no rear doors to maximise rear utility space.
that zoe, seems a bit of a lazy conversion, not really a van more a car with no back seats, the kangoo makes more sense to me. although I would definitely look into a transporter sized EV in the future when I come to sell my current diesel transporter
Its a metre so the same cargo area as the Corsa and Fiesta van. Also, I wonder if people will buy them just as you get 8k off a commercial ev rather than 4k off the car.
I'm suprised why Renault haven't put the technology of the Zoe into the Kangoo yet.
They must be planning on it but i think they are waiting for the next generation of the Kangoo body to be ready first.
@@jameseckersley4926 I think cos with the other car derived vans they mostly are 3 door and have metal panels in the windows where this is basically the exact same as the car.
that's an idea. Buy the 'van' and put seats in it for a nice 4k saving 😉
I was thinking the same... if that amount of cargo space is all you need, then why wouldn't you just get a normal Zoe and put the seats down? Can't see the point of this...
@@snowstrobe i think these vans are aimed at the business market because they can't use cars for tax reasons, they have to be classed as vans.
Nothing stopping a private business person using their car for delivering I'd guess.
I live in a small town in Texas. I drive 4 older people to doctor visits in a large city 40 miles from my town. I'm looking for a passenger van to transport the elderly to and from the doctors office with about 150 round trip range.
Nissan e-nv200 Evalia. - a 7 seater, with 5 rear seats that fold to side & floor to offer versatile load space.
You'll think it expensive mind having only 7.2kw charging as standard and doing 150 miles at a pinch.
Hope all above is correct... take care
Enjoyed watching the series on electric vans, bit surprised you didn't cover the Nissan e-NV200 though, the first and arguably best selling electric van in the UK?
V2G is going to be the next big disruptor. With large fleet owners who have the good sense to install utility-scale solar on their properties to augment their charging scheme, the vehicle becomes a multi-pronged revenue generator beyond merely moving goods and services to customers, but the means by which goods (or strictly speaking commodities in the form of utility power) can be leveraged for best price. For a bit of expansion on this, watch Cole the Cornstar explaining how and why the million-dollar expense of an array of grain storage bins on the family farm is such a smart investment.
I am so excited about V2G. It's a shame that CCS is so far behind CHAdeMO - the Nissan e-NV200 is already capable of V2G, and I think Nissan might yet lead the charge once the CCS bidirectional standards are finalised. Renault are also working on AC V2G, too. I'm cautiously optimistic that by maybe 2025 the demand for V2G will be increasing. This video (and series) make me wonder whether the commercial vehicle world will be pushing harder for V2G than private owners - private owners tend to get sentimental about their cars (y'know, worries about battery degradation that don't actually have much basis is reality) but for commercial fleets, it's just money money money.
After driving an old leaf for 2 years the battery capacity was reduced by about 20%.. Running a full charge cycle every day to earn money from the electric seems hopeless to me.. Batteries would be useless before long.
@@sceptic33 What on Earth did you do to that battery? Bought a 2018 Leaf half a year ago and it still has >95% of its new capacity. The reliable articles I find indicate
@@gigabyte2248 was only used to buzz around London, a few trips to Brighton.. usually charged with 7kw at home, only occasionally using fast charge on motorway..
@@sceptic33 A Leaf is a poor example. Their design is deeply flawed. No, for V2G to work your use case has to be leaving a significant portion of the vehicle's capacity available for picking up excess charge for supplying to the grid after hours. It should be a fairly straightforward matter of writing it into the charger's controller aboard the car. After a few weeks of living with you, it should know your typical use and be able to anticipate, to a degree, what kind of use it's going to get in the next day and adjust capacity availability accordingly.
wondering if you could clarify, I have checked on the Vauxhall site for range of Vivaro states 110miles at 60 mph for laden mass of 2000kg is this an empty weight or with 2000kg added, the reason I ask is I would want to use as a basic camper van with virtually no weight
That car/van is too small for me but nice idea. That bulkhead needs to come out so I can get my ladders in. I need 300mile real world range. I’m frequently driving 200mile + to job sites where there is no charging infrastructure then stay over in hotels, again no overnight charging. Charging at service stations taking more than 20minutes is not acceptable, I don’t get time to swan around while my vehicle charges. We really need more destination chargers.
You'd think more and more hotels will start having chargers installed now.
Being a Postie I see at the weekend all the traders who live in council houses are parked on the street, no where near any potential charging points, so again the poor people are going to be hit the hardest, and loose out on these running cost savings. So how do they get round this problem, build new parking charging spaces, which would mean less green spaces! It’s a real problem!
Any plans for electric large box vans or 7.5 tonne trucks For the future?
Don’t forget the fully electric Ford E-Transit in 2022!
E-Traaaaaaaansiiiittttttaaa
Not sure the other zoe is the best design for a small van - sloped rear shapes are not box friendly.
I sincerely hope Dacia will make Lodgy electric :) But it seems Renault will not allow it.
Just imagine how far the vans would go if Britain ever went metric!
Like to see an EV megane, Peugeot 308 van, ID3 van. The gamechanger will be an EV transit
Great videos 🕯☕️🚬🍿
Can someone tell Robert that petrol is currently about £5.40 a gallon.
how about for INSTACART delivery?
Does anyone know whether the cheap rate times cost etc varies from provider to provider, is it set by government ? This would have a bearing on viability of buying cheap and selling back
provider to provider, I believe. Ofwat (think that's the right body) review / cap prices, but that's about it.
Cheap rate varies between suppliers, anywhere between 12 (midnight) and 1 to start, and 7 to 8am to finish on economy 7.
If you go for a Time Of Use deal, it is also cheapest at those times, but if the weather is sunny and windy then it can also be cheap during the day, but most expensive between 4 pm and 7pm.
@@SheepShearerMike Thank you Mike Time of use sounds like a good idea to iron out the peak and troughs.Cheers
Is it too difficult to provide auto captions? My wife can't understand Andy... 😥
Neither can the auto captions.
@@555RavenCrow oopsi
Hello chaps,
So apart from Arrival....hmmm 🤷♂️
No electric van is made in the UK??..please correct me if I am wrong.
Will there be a higher price to import them from the EU post Brexit?
I am French and will get a used Zoe 50 next time..
Cordialement,
Isn't the vivaro made in Luton? The ICE ones were at any rate
Also the maxus is Chinese
@@mralistair737 AFAIK the vivaro-e is made in France by PSA
I'm sorry but the Renault van just isn't a real fan, it looks like a car with with its seats folded down
Suspension setup and all might be different... To be able to take all the load
That might be all your local florist needs though - for some people, its perfect.
More vans please
Other than the Mach-E, are Ford completely ignoring EVs?
They have a pickup f150 on the way, but you are right, seem a bit behind compared to some others
I wouldn't call that a van, it's not even a station wagon(estate) based on that idea you could take almost any car/hatchback and rip out the insides and call it a van . I also disagree with the argument of having a small battery just because you do short trips, in a petrol/diesel car you don't have a "Jerry can" for a fuel tank that you fill up every day, just have a decent size battery that you charge every few days or so and also you'll have the range if you need to go further on occasion. I think this is just a workaround because no one wants to spend the money on rapid charger infrastructure to accommodate vehicles with larger batteries.
I know is a REX.. but the LEVC - VN5.
thank u!