I THOROUGHLY agree that if Korg ever made a 1:1 Kronos plugin in terms of sound, it is a wrap. I would delete every other keyboard plugin expeditiously
Zenology Core is available at only $2.99 per month. Zenology Pro is available for purchase at $229. Also Zenology really is made for sound design because you design the sounds you want to use in all the Zen hardware. Synth wise, Arturia V is really a hard competition and then with Native Instrument's Komplete, you have way more than Omni.
Great video but a few points - and I own Zenology, Omnisphere, and many other VSTs: 1. Zenology actually allows deep sound creation. 2. You can own any instrument in Roland Cloud. 3. Omnisphere is a supremely powerful synth, I agree, but, there is another VST that is orders of magnitude more powerful and that is Falcon 3. People are terrified by the interface but, once you get used to it, Falcon 3 can do everything Omnisphere can do and much more. In my opinion, all three are worth the plunge.
I tried Zenology last year and these were my thoughts: The expansions like the SRX cards and XV5080 when ran through Zenology are pretty dry and lose most if not all the great sound design FX settings. However, if you run the literal SRX and XV5080 plugins themselves you get them just like their hardware versions. You can buy those straight up for $69 each for the SRX and $130 for XV5080. I got rid of Zenology and bought the XV5080 plug-in. I also run the XV5080 plug-in through decimort 2 and use the Mpc 60 or ASR 10 preset to make the sound even bigger. If you want more realistic acoustic patches, NI Komplete (Kontakt), the Spitfire Labs free, or Fabric XL plug-in are good complementary plugins.
Yup, this is the correct assessment. No filler, no bs. Zenology for bread and butter sounds, Omnisphere for power users, out of the box sound design, or synth. But a secret weapon that most Omnishere users are unaware of is the sound source browser... that's where the real fun begins.
@@BeatsByJarel they are very good with sound design but at the same time they have enough musical presets to keep preset pushers from making all these weird songs.
@@g-soul4771 yea word... in omnisphere you really have to sound design...the presets is set for electronic music like techno and shit..not enough hip hop presets
my brother has been telling me for months "you need to get that roland cloud!" I never noticed that "Zenology" was what he was talking about until i started seeing it in tuts and now i have it :)
I myself use Zenology n say it has a quick access of sounds whiles Omnisphere has too much sounds u don't know which one to use n u might lose inspiration in creating the music cuz u r searching for the perfect sound that might take hours.Busy i would agree with u on this one
Thanks for the explanation. Price has kept me away from Omni. Got the Zenology Lite and was highly impressed by the presets/patches it came with that has me thinking about the full Zenology version.
Well in the end .. is about the creation and creator.. doesn’t matter how many cool vsts we have .. just more fun with choices but to much can block the musical process ..
These aren't comparable. Totally 2 different animals. Zenology is just all Roland Synth sounds(thousands of which mostly sound the same). Omnisphere is Everything. Eric Persing used to work with Roland. He takes Zeneology tech and UPS IT to a whole new level. The sound quality of Omnisphere stomps all over Zeneology too. Why does an Omnisphere D-50 patch sound better then a Roland D-50 Patch? Hmmmmm. Maybe because Eric designed em? LOL
Hey brother! Thanks so much for this very objective and informative review of two powerful plugins! If you have the chance, I would appreciate seeing more examples of the "bread-and-butter" and your "goto" sounds in both plugins. I spent the $500 for Omnisphere several months ago due to its pervasive usage in modern music; yet what you presented regarding Xenology got me thinking again about consuming the Roland subscription. So hearing again what you'd recommend, if you haven't done so in another video already, would be greatly empowering! Thanks again!
But the boss behind Omnisphere was Sounddesigner (programming synths) for Roland. Also for Michael Jackson somehow back then. Did you know that? I think, I get a lot of Roland with Omnisphere. The most relevant sound master of Roland created Omnisphere. That's most probably the right way to view it.
I have zenology, it reminds me of my FA08 with some of the free expansion packs, i put the D-50, JD, JP Integra sounds on there as well... Sounds pretty much the same to me.
Zenology has more clean sounds you said? (Or something like that)... because the Omnisphere Sounds are all(?) (or just way more of them) designed with effects and if you turn them off, they probably sound more like what you prefer in Zenology. That's my assumption.
The guy who created omnisphere used to design/program all of those different companies sounds. He worked for every major synth company in the 80’s Korg,Roland, etc. I prefer Zenology because it is less cpu heavy than omni but Keyscape can’t be touched by Zenology piano wise and Trillian Bass is unmatched by Zenology. I think when Zenology makes more Patches they will actually be better but I still prefer Zenology > Omni today. It’s not better though.
He worked for Roland and used to design sounds for artists but I don’t think he ever work for korg or Yamaha he was very close to the Roland President.
korg has plugins (KORG Collection 4 series) , even you are saying that . i prefer omnisphere , for sound design and they gives preset .Plus you own the product, not zenology .thats the problem .
It is my favourite VST and I got it cracked in Atlanta. Its the hardest VST out... Ronald always go hard, but after buying so many plug-ins and wasting money I ain't paying for it. Zenology has EVERYTHING inside. Juno 106, JV 1080, and so on. Every keyboard made by Roland is in Zenology. Personally I would never buy or even crack Omnisphere. Going through the sounds is horrendous... because most of the sounds are trash. My opinion. Not fact. Don't get upset by my words, please. I am not here to argue. Just sharing my thoughts as requested by busyworksbeats in his pinned comment.
I personally have Roland cloud zenology being one of the vsts from the cloud pack…I love it love it love it but I’m in their ecosphere now with the ultimate plan it’s steep asl but for what you get with it, and its healthy amount of sounds/arsenal so no complaints is it for everyone no,but BSW all those sounds I. Their plus other individual emulators that they have can’t beat it although there are times I wish I had omnisphere but I’m happy with what I have I can’t front though nexus is 🔥🔥😮🥴🤯
You can’t compare Zenology free to Omnisphere. Zenology pro is meant for sound designers you are wrong sir don’t compare the scaled down version to full blown Omnispere
I have both. Zynology sounds are flat . Old stuff. I have plenty Roland hard and software.they live in the past. Omnishere is far better. My favourite is Skippys Unify.
Omnisphere is over hyyyyyyyped.. Zenology pro with the presets and expansion Is 🔥🔥🔥 Zenology Pro has presets you can actually USE. And almost does the same thing as Omnisphere
What are your thoughts?!
Zenology
Zenology would be better if it was multitimbral
@@santos688in lpx you can set it to do that
I THOROUGHLY agree that if Korg ever made a 1:1 Kronos plugin in terms of sound, it is a wrap. I would delete every other keyboard plugin expeditiously
Me Too!@TaughtByTech
Ive been using Omni and Keyscape for years and love it for production in the daw.
Zenology Core is available at only $2.99 per month. Zenology Pro is available for purchase at $229. Also Zenology really is made for sound design because you design the sounds you want to use in all the Zen hardware. Synth wise, Arturia V is really a hard competition and then with Native Instrument's Komplete, you have way more than Omni.
There are some really great multi-layered patches with Omni though.
I have Komplete collectors and Arturia X, I still may purchase this. The Korg collection is a nice option too!
@@CoopMusic247 I use all of them but I am really saying omnisphere, analog lab, kontakt and zenology are the beast for producers
Great video but a few points - and I own Zenology, Omnisphere, and many other VSTs: 1. Zenology actually allows deep sound creation. 2. You can own any instrument in Roland Cloud. 3. Omnisphere is a supremely powerful synth, I agree, but, there is another VST that is orders of magnitude more powerful and that is Falcon 3. People are terrified by the interface but, once you get used to it, Falcon 3 can do everything Omnisphere can do and much more. In my opinion, all three are worth the plunge.
Facts....People are sleeping on Uvi Falcon.....Real Beast
Yeah falcon ain’t nothing to play with UVI!!
I love Falcon, one of my go-to synths.
I have SonicPass and I want to learn falcon more. But with that said, I am getting the Roland Cloud also. Maybe just the Pro version.
I can only see Zenology as a service. Can I buy and own it?
I tried Zenology last year and these were my thoughts:
The expansions like the SRX cards and XV5080 when ran through Zenology are pretty dry and lose most if not all the great sound design FX settings. However, if you run the literal SRX and XV5080 plugins themselves you get them just like their hardware versions. You can buy those straight up for $69 each for the SRX and $130 for XV5080. I got rid of Zenology and bought the XV5080 plug-in. I also run the XV5080 plug-in through decimort 2 and use the Mpc 60 or ASR 10 preset to make the sound even bigger. If you want more realistic acoustic patches, NI Komplete (Kontakt), the Spitfire Labs free, or Fabric XL plug-in are good complementary plugins.
Omnisphere..without watching the video. Don't let anyone fool you..If you want quality you always have to pay.. That's a fact
common now the sound selection on zenology is better there is way more sound selection on zen than omnisphere tell me otherwise bruh
It's outdated.
Scammer's favorite thing to hear!!! Hahahaha
Omnisphere was the goated in 2014
just nick it.
Yup, this is the correct assessment. No filler, no bs. Zenology for bread and butter sounds, Omnisphere for power users, out of the box sound design, or synth. But a secret weapon that most Omnishere users are unaware of is the sound source browser... that's where the real fun begins.
That what I said... but most of these producers don't do sound design..they Preset Producers😂
@@BeatsByJarelThey better get zenology or korg collection because they will fail with anything else.
@g-soul4771 You can do alot with the korg collection man..I own that and I do some sound design with it...I haven try zenology.. but I do Owen it
@@BeatsByJarel they are very good with sound design but at the same time they have enough musical presets to keep preset pushers from making all these weird songs.
@@g-soul4771 yea word... in omnisphere you really have to sound design...the presets is set for electronic music like techno and shit..not enough hip hop presets
my brother has been telling me for months "you need to get that roland cloud!" I never noticed that "Zenology" was what he was talking about until i started seeing it in tuts and now i have it :)
Thanks for this, man! You really helped me along with my search for the best VST for what I want to do.
I myself use Zenology n say it has a quick access of sounds whiles Omnisphere has too much sounds u don't know which one to use n u might lose inspiration in creating the music cuz u r searching for the perfect sound that might take hours.Busy i would agree with u on this one
Roland Is My First Love💝
Die-hard Roland users are very difficult to sway. I should know, I am one.
Thank you man. Excellent analysis
Whats crazy is I've had zenology for months and didnt even know what it had in it until today 😂😂
😂
Thanks for the explanation. Price has kept me away from Omni. Got the Zenology Lite and was highly impressed by the presets/patches it came with that has me thinking about the full Zenology version.
Never thought Omnisphere can be compared to Zenology
very insightful bro thanks
I honestly wish I didn't spend that 500 on omnisphere 😅 but oh well what's done is done
Its amazing, just go deeper..
Well in the end .. is about the creation and creator.. doesn’t matter how many cool vsts we have .. just more fun with choices but to much can block the musical process ..
These aren't comparable. Totally 2 different animals. Zenology is just all Roland Synth sounds(thousands of which mostly sound the same). Omnisphere is Everything. Eric Persing used to work with Roland. He takes Zeneology tech and UPS IT to a whole new level. The sound quality of Omnisphere stomps all over Zeneology too. Why does an Omnisphere D-50 patch sound better then a Roland D-50 Patch? Hmmmmm. Maybe because Eric designed em? LOL
I agree. He literally designed the sounds FOR ROLAND hahaha. He owns some of them most famous sounds.
Hey brother!
Thanks so much for this very objective and informative review of two powerful plugins! If you have the chance, I would appreciate seeing more examples of the "bread-and-butter" and your "goto" sounds in both plugins. I spent the $500 for Omnisphere several months ago due to its pervasive usage in modern music; yet what you presented regarding Xenology got me thinking again about consuming the Roland subscription. So hearing again what you'd recommend, if you haven't done so in another video already, would be greatly empowering! Thanks again!
i would probably get zenology. i like srx keyboards and the others ones roland makes tho
But the boss behind Omnisphere was Sounddesigner (programming synths) for Roland. Also for Michael Jackson somehow back then. Did you know that? I think, I get a lot of Roland with Omnisphere. The most relevant sound master of Roland created Omnisphere. That's most probably the right way to view it.
No comment, I have neither but I should get one or both. Did you create that chord melody by the way? I like how it sounds.
Does Zenology have the sounds of Integra 7 and access to the V-Piano
It has all the expansions I know for sure... Roland does a great job for recycling ♻️ Sounds.
I'll go with Falcon.
Nah, analog lab is the pinnacle of what a synth can be...
Nah my guy you tripping if BSW shows you what’s in that Roland cloud you might retract that
@@Eighty5iveProd whar does that mean?
@@Adam-g-ukthe Sounds of analog Labs doesnt rly Sound ,,analog‘‘
@@cromicbeats1732 sounds alot better than most vst i have, what would you say sounds the best?
Analog lab is my fav right now, but that’s like 20 different synths in one so that’s cheating 🤣🤣🤣
Zenology: it weights 300 Mb in this time when Omnisphere weights over 10+ Gb
You were probably the water boy to all those artists....
I have zenology, it reminds me of my FA08 with some of the free expansion packs, i put the D-50, JD, JP Integra sounds on there as well... Sounds pretty much the same to me.
Zenology has more clean sounds you said? (Or something like that)... because the Omnisphere Sounds are all(?) (or just way more of them) designed with effects and if you turn them off, they probably sound more like what you prefer in Zenology. That's my assumption.
Zenology is free zenology pro is 229 life time license
Ominisphere is a flat price and it comes with with thousands of presets plus there are thousands more floating around the web.
Zenology and analog lab I bought both man I’m making sure fire beats 🔥 with the stock banks man I got my money worth already
Where do I buy your beats?
I got zenology for windows WHO EVER WANTS IT HIT ME 🔥🔥
Personally im a Native instrument head, BUT omnisphere is legit. However I was intrigued by the Roland cloud so got $10 why not try it
The guy who created omnisphere used to design/program all of those different companies sounds. He worked for every major synth company in the 80’s Korg,Roland, etc. I prefer Zenology because it is less cpu heavy than omni but Keyscape can’t be touched by Zenology piano wise and Trillian Bass is unmatched by Zenology. I think when Zenology makes more
Patches they will actually be better but I still prefer Zenology > Omni today. It’s not better though.
He worked for Roland and used to design sounds for artists but I don’t think he ever work for korg or Yamaha he was very close to the Roland President.
Zenology pro is 599.00 equivalent to Omnisphere
korg has plugins (KORG Collection 4 series) , even you are saying that . i prefer omnisphere , for sound design and they gives preset .Plus you own the product, not zenology .thats the problem .
zenology vs xpand 2 would make more since frfr
It is my favourite VST and I got it cracked in Atlanta. Its the hardest VST out... Ronald always go hard, but after buying so many plug-ins and wasting money I ain't paying for it.
Zenology has EVERYTHING inside. Juno 106, JV 1080, and so on. Every keyboard made by Roland is in Zenology. Personally I would never buy or even crack Omnisphere. Going through the sounds is horrendous... because most of the sounds are trash.
My opinion. Not fact. Don't get upset by my words, please. I am not here to argue. Just sharing my thoughts as requested by busyworksbeats in his pinned comment.
ronald goes hard as fuck
nah but fr roland the goat. but i like omnisphere a lot too. i jus feel its harder to use sometimes or i get too confused
Who else watching this with the cracked versions
8:59 mortal kombat
I personally have Roland cloud zenology being one of the vsts from the cloud pack…I love it love it love it but I’m in their ecosphere now with the ultimate plan it’s steep asl but for what you get with it, and its healthy amount of sounds/arsenal so no complaints is it for everyone no,but BSW all those sounds I. Their plus other individual emulators that they have can’t beat it although there are times I wish I had omnisphere but I’m happy with what I have I can’t front though nexus is 🔥🔥😮🥴🤯
I mess with omni , Analog Lab and Nexus 🎉
Oddity 3
Why not both? Well less the money xd
interesting
I’ve never heard anything from omnisphere that made me think I need it. Zenology sounds lush out the box. Maybe I’m just more a rompler guy
You can’t compare Zenology free to Omnisphere. Zenology pro is meant for sound designers you are wrong sir don’t compare the scaled down version to full blown Omnispere
I have both. Zynology sounds are flat . Old stuff. I have plenty Roland hard and software.they live in the past. Omnishere is far better. My favourite is Skippys Unify.
Omnisphere is over hyyyyyyyped.. Zenology pro with the presets and expansion Is 🔥🔥🔥
Zenology Pro has presets you can actually USE. And almost does the same thing as Omnisphere
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