Doc mix, you approach everything with such a playful sense of wonder! I absolutely love your vids. The Nexus 3 one is absolute gold! From a fellow aspiring lord of the synth :)
@Doctor Mix, I have to say... this Zenology plugin showed up in my Roland Cloud trial yesterday. This plugin alone is worth the annual subscription fee! Amazing sounds, and so many of them!!!
How do you start using it? I too could see it in my LIbrary of RolandCloud. Have Installed it. From where do I launch that? SHould that be tried from DAW? I use Ableton Live
Shreepad Gandhi hey yeah you wanna load it in a vst. Go to the Roland cloud manager and after you open it, go to bottom left and click account, then click preferences. You should see in custom install folder where it saved VST3 folder and Roland zenology is in there. You can drag that folder into your plugin folder or whatever you do to play your vsts in ableton
I just love me some Roland! I will probably give in and get their full plan. I have an original Roland V-Synth and will probably break it out and see what I can do with it. Thanks for sharing Dr Mix!
OMG!!! Shine pad and e-grand were pure sonic heaven! And in general, those huge Roland atmospheric sounds were just stunning! PS, those drums were epic too!!!! Love me some phat beats!!!
As a long term Roland user I recognize many sound patches from the old model... so why should I need this if I can have the exact same on my Fantom or Roland Cloud? Did Roland realize how often we can find the same sounds or patches on their different synths? I loved Roland for long time, love the idea of Zenology (reminds me of AIRA :D) and I would love to support but... if I paid for this and still getting the same old JP6 / Juno 106 sound that I already have on my Roland synths, it would be disappointing... I hope I'll find something new in this Zenology.
This sounds great! Just downloaded it. Nifty little vst. No strings attached. Completely free.I tried the cloud free for the month but my PC was not powerful enough so I didn't pay for it. Zenology works great!
really good. One of my first keyboards, was JUPITRE 4, and I have always loved the sound of ROLAND products. PS: every time you say JP, I think you talk about me. ha ha ha. thank you for your videos always interesting and educational. JPaul
It's a decent plugin for sure, I wish they'd sort their manager out though that app has endless bugs in it. Still hoping for a virtual JD800 and V-Synth GT :)
Hi Docteur Mix =), I was wondering what's the advantage of having the hardware version vs the vst. More colorful ? (I'm not on the software vs hardware debate), but I was planning on getting the Juno X =). Thank you
Hey this is really cool and all but I have a question about the quality. The "resolution" of some of the "analog" sound emulations sound kinda grungy like they're lower bitrate or frequency. Any comments or details on this? Is it hard on your workstation's CPU cores? The Pro version concept is more my style but I'm concerned more about the quality. Thoughts? I own a Jupiter-Xm and it definitely sounds waaaaaay better than this in my opinion. Not trying to rag on it - just wondering about what to realistically expect with the plugin.
What is the difference between hardware and software on the app? I thought I could use this in standalone via hardware on my Roland keyboard without a DAW.
Fantastic review, shelling out $2.99 a month for the Zenology Core is worth it. Plus with the promise of the Pro in the offing with boutique versions of the full synths, seems a cheaper way to get into just what you want without buying full licenses for each full instrument. Not sure I want to download the everything in the with the Ultimate Trial, only want to have on the computer exactly what I want to keep. As for how it looks, seems to me they really enjoy the appearance of UVI Synth Anthology 2, and my guess it will look even more like it in the Pro version.
I'm not convinced. This looks like little more than a preset browser (with a horrible UI). Yet another new Roland technology for them to trumpet and promote briefly before abandoning. How many of us AIRA synth owners are sitting on our System-8's waiting for another of the huge number of plug-outs that they promised us, but that we know they will never release? Now apparently they're just abandoning and orphaning that 4 year old technology and are instead all about Zen core (which doesn't sound as good as the ACM AIRA synths!). Another few of years, I'm sure Zen core will be abandoned, and you'll have to pony up your thousands on the next newest greatest thing (that still plays the same Jupiter/Juno sounds, of course). I'm a little tired of Roland and their overpriced quickly-obsoleted synths. But...I still love my System-8. :)
System 8 sound great for me than a jupiter x. But i feel like im not doing the wrong choice buying Behringer synth, real analog synth with real sounding, Roland make synth at the extra cost of 2k-3k€ and throw the plugin that can do the same few month later...
I love my old MC 909 that I bought new 17 years ago. It never broke down once. It's very reliable. It's not obsolete and was expensive and they could of released more srx expansion boards and had more updates but I bought it for what it was. Back in 1982 you could buy an overpriced Juno 60 6 voice dco or a Korg Poly 61 6 voice dco for half the price. The Juno sounded better. The new MC707 doesn't make MC909 obsolete and the Jupiter X doesn't make the System 8 obsolete.
@@overload8741 Behringer does a lot of Things better than roland! Roland is a Digital Simulator, Behringer is using real technics. Behringer sounds better and has fair prices. BTW Roland kills their Software Support for many products after just a few years. E. G. Aira Modular, no Support and the Android App is not aviable anymore. What a fucking shit. Roland never again! I hate you for this!
This is why I bought the JD-XA and not the System-8 - the JD-XA is a real hardware synth with real analog. I understand the frustration of System-8 owners, especially now that the System-8 itself is a VSTi, one which I use a lot, but if Roland does what it has promised for Zenology by the time the Pro version is released in a few months, it will truly be the most powerful VSTi ever made. As it is, it is already a formidable rackmount-style synth, better than the JV-1080 and XV-5080 in my opinion.
Hi Doctor Mix, Does this still work if you are disconnected from the internet. If I had a subscription and I work in camp in the middle of the desert or the Jungle as I do, would I still be able to to it? Does it install the sounds to the computer and does it remember you subscription service on you computer ? Many thanks.
I have been a user of Roland products for over thirty years. I currently own a Roland V-Synth XT and a Roland Integra-7. I downloaded and installed the Roland Cloud and subsequently the free version of Zenology and multiple libraries. Roland insists that Zenlolgy, which is a VST3, must be installed in the (Windows) C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 directory. I moved it to a folder on my D:\ drive and it worked just fine. However, although multiple Factory Preset Banks install with Zenology the patch browser only recoginzed Bank A, even it the plugin was left in the VST3 folder on the C:\ drive. It didn't recognize any of the additional downloaded libraries at all and there is no utility to point the browser to the install location. The install location is requested by the installer, implying users choice. After contacting Roland support (which was reasonably prompt) I found out that, no, the libraries must be located in a specified folder on the C:\ drive only. To add insult to injury I also found out from Roland support that Zenlolgy does not support MIDI patch change protocols. You can use a patch chance message to select any patch with a number between 0-127, but Zenology has patches with numbers higher than 127, thus there is no way to select them, e.g.,, with a patch change message in a DAW. Finally, the Roland Cloud app randomly pops up solicitations for other Roland products on your desktop using the Windows message utilty. I've removed Zenology and Roland Cloud from my PC and won't be using any Roland software products in the forseeable future.
Don't Call Me Xxx, Whitey,. by Sly and the Family Stone could be that riff you said to identify in these comments. Or it could be something else... :) Love your fun attitude and chops!
Is anyone else not able to find the plug in (windows). Cloud manager says zenology is installed, but nothing. !?!? Also, where's the support from Roland?
The Jupiter X is a beautiful giggable instrument. If you're happy with your rig, why buy ANYTHING? VSTs are quick adds to your arsenal. Easily forgotten days after acquisition. A new hardware synth is a new friend. I dunno.
Okay, let's be clear the System 8 is a great bit of kit, ARIA sounds wonderful and it's a total shame Roland have seemingly dropped it. What I would sat this plugin essentially has the Zen Core engine from the Fantom etc. I subscribed to the $3 monthly, whether it sounds better than the System 8 or not it still sounds very decent and is incredible value for money.
They do sell lifetime keys. Seems right now if you buy a year's cloud subscription they throw in the lifetime key for one (Pro) or two (Ultimate) instruments. Search "Play 4 life"
you'll know you can sample into the os's on the zen core right? it's almost like my fav. Roland synth I own V-synth! I got the mc-707 and it's the most fun I've had with a Roland Seq! the old workstations were always A BITCH! My JP 8080 sits collecting dust because I hate working on it! the V-synths supersaw with duel filters sound better IMO. I hope they open up different filters in the ZEN-Core hardware when we download a patch into them fro. the ZEN thing.
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Wish Roland took the time to make analog synths like behringer, sequential, moog and korg. Seems they are too focused on making digital synths and vsts, which, while in tune sound too perfect and sterile.
@@TheManInCommand digital synth. Not saying digital is bad, I love digital synths, but to have an analog jupiter 8 would be incredible. Their most recent analog attempts have been the SE-01 (which has a lot of digital architecture in it), JD-XA (has an analog section but mostly digital) and I guess adding an analog filter to the new Fantom. But the minilogue did REALLY well, and Behringer's clones have been doing very nicely too. Just seems like they're intentionally ignoring a sizeable part of the marketplace.
5:16. OMG. I love that type of sound. Like oldskool early 90's house, techno and rave.
i can hear it when you describe it
It's called stacked chord.
808 State - Pacific State
Doc mix, you approach everything with such a playful sense of wonder! I absolutely love your vids. The Nexus 3 one is absolute gold! From a fellow aspiring lord of the synth :)
OMG I love that horn blast at 3:11 - it would be amazing an incidental sound for dramatic moments or scary moments in video production!
12:00 Doctor Mix plays better drums on his keyboard than my drummer on his actual drumkit.
Listening to him drum and thinking... WOW!
@Doctor Mix, I have to say... this Zenology plugin showed up in my Roland Cloud trial yesterday. This plugin alone is worth the annual subscription fee! Amazing sounds, and so many of them!!!
How do you start using it? I too could see it in my LIbrary of RolandCloud. Have Installed it. From where do I launch that? SHould that be tried from DAW? I use Ableton Live
Shreepad Gandhi hey yeah you wanna load it in a vst. Go to the Roland cloud manager and after you open it, go to bottom left and click account, then click preferences. You should see in custom install folder where it saved VST3 folder and Roland zenology is in there. You can drag that folder into your plugin folder or whatever you do to play your vsts in ableton
13:10 - You ALMOST rick-roland'ed us with that sound!!!
lol
Ok I finally subscribed after watching you for over a year, I play hard to get
Watching you do this brings me so much joy. Most likely because you have so much fun doing it so it spreads. Thanks for this!
I am once again blown away by your skills. I am truly blown away by each and every video of you. Huge Respect :)
How is this guy always so happy :)
Doctor Mix I f*kking love your humor whahah
The moment he says YES, YES ,YES,
Oh man my my tears of joy
I just love me some Roland! I will probably give in and get their full plan. I have an original Roland V-Synth and will probably break it out and see what I can do with it. Thanks for sharing Dr Mix!
It reminds me of something from the mid to late 80s. This was a dope demo man
OMG!!! Shine pad and e-grand were pure sonic heaven! And in general, those huge Roland atmospheric sounds were just stunning!
PS, those drums were epic too!!!! Love me some phat beats!!!
i started usjng Zenology 2 days ago after down loading the full version. Great sound banks and features.
Doctor Mix, the man of many hats.
Hola Claudio muy bueno el Zenology!
13:58 The Groove Hits Nice Sir
As a long term Roland user I recognize many sound patches from the old model... so why should I need this if I can have the exact same on my Fantom or Roland Cloud? Did Roland realize how often we can find the same sounds or patches on their different synths?
I loved Roland for long time, love the idea of Zenology (reminds me of AIRA :D) and I would love to support but... if I paid for this and still getting the same old JP6 / Juno 106 sound that I already have on my Roland synths, it would be disappointing...
I hope I'll find something new in this Zenology.
This I want. Another masterpiece from Roland
How can I download your enthusiasm ?
❤️
This sounds great! Just downloaded it. Nifty little vst. No strings attached. Completely free.I tried the cloud free for the month but my PC was not powerful enough so I didn't pay for it. Zenology works great!
The Power kit is one of my favorites on my SC-880. I'm glad you like it on here! :D
I love you too Doctor Mix
When do you move to your New Studio?
Cat-Empire-Hello (The melody you were looking for) in the video.
Sounds pretty excellent!
Liked on the first note.
You are a DEMO MACHINE! 🥇🏆Great and fun vid as always - stay safe! 👍
I dont like Cloud based stuff in general but i must admit it does sound great. I would rather buy a Jupiter xm.
I have a Jupiter XM and it is just awesome
Is this the new Sound Canvas??
really good. One of my first keyboards, was JUPITRE 4, and I have always loved the sound of ROLAND products. PS: every time you say JP, I think you talk about me. ha ha ha. thank you for your videos always interesting and educational. JPaul
I think this Roland Zenology comes to compete with the Korg Triton which is the best VST ever for me. This Zenology is also very good!
It's a decent plugin for sure, I wish they'd sort their manager out though that app has endless bugs in it. Still hoping for a virtual JD800 and V-Synth GT :)
you rocked the fucking house with those drums man
Yet another great video. So much passion. LOVE it
Hi Claudio, I seem to remember that bit you were asking about @11.25 was from a Rocky movie. I cant be more specific yet but I will locate it for you.
Love you too!
amazing dude, , even i am not a musician , i appreciated your work , keep it up . god bless
I'd love to see you remake Syclops - Where's Jasons K. It has some great synth, and I just wonder how it's done on a physical setup!
Love this guy.
Hi Docteur Mix =), I was wondering what's the advantage of having the hardware version vs the vst. More colorful ? (I'm not on the software vs hardware debate), but I was planning on getting the Juno X =). Thank you
Can it works with logic pro x?
Please, CORONA live!
Greetings from Brazil.
6:22 If that doesn't sound like Todd Rundgren idk what does hahaha
Hey this is really cool and all but I have a question about the quality. The "resolution" of some of the "analog" sound emulations sound kinda grungy like they're lower bitrate or frequency. Any comments or details on this? Is it hard on your workstation's CPU cores? The Pro version concept is more my style but I'm concerned more about the quality. Thoughts? I own a Jupiter-Xm and it definitely sounds waaaaaay better than this in my opinion. Not trying to rag on it - just wondering about what to realistically expect with the plugin.
What is the difference between hardware and software on the app? I thought I could use this in standalone via hardware on my Roland keyboard without a DAW.
Great video, I really enjoyed your Musicianship!
Fantastic review, shelling out $2.99 a month for the Zenology Core is worth it. Plus with the promise of the Pro in the offing with boutique versions of the full synths, seems a cheaper way to get into just what you want without buying full licenses for each full instrument. Not sure I want to download the everything in the with the Ultimate Trial, only want to have on the computer exactly what I want to keep. As for how it looks, seems to me they really enjoy the appearance of UVI Synth Anthology 2, and my guess it will look even more like it in the Pro version.
tank you doctor mix
I'm not convinced. This looks like little more than a preset browser (with a horrible UI). Yet another new Roland technology for them to trumpet and promote briefly before abandoning. How many of us AIRA synth owners are sitting on our System-8's waiting for another of the huge number of plug-outs that they promised us, but that we know they will never release? Now apparently they're just abandoning and orphaning that 4 year old technology and are instead all about Zen core (which doesn't sound as good as the ACM AIRA synths!). Another few of years, I'm sure Zen core will be abandoned, and you'll have to pony up your thousands on the next newest greatest thing (that still plays the same Jupiter/Juno sounds, of course). I'm a little tired of Roland and their overpriced quickly-obsoleted synths.
But...I still love my System-8. :)
I think it's the version lite in this video
System 8 sound great for me than a jupiter x. But i feel like im not doing the wrong choice buying Behringer synth, real analog synth with real sounding, Roland make synth at the extra cost of 2k-3k€ and throw the plugin that can do the same few month later...
I love my old MC 909 that I bought new 17 years ago. It never broke down once. It's very reliable. It's not obsolete and was expensive and they could of released more srx expansion boards and had more updates but I bought it for what it was. Back in 1982 you could buy an overpriced Juno 60 6 voice dco or a Korg Poly 61 6 voice dco for half the price. The Juno sounded better. The new MC707 doesn't make MC909 obsolete and the Jupiter X doesn't make the System 8 obsolete.
@@overload8741 Behringer does a lot of Things better than roland! Roland is a Digital Simulator, Behringer is using real technics. Behringer sounds better and has fair prices. BTW Roland kills their Software Support for many products after just a few years. E. G. Aira Modular, no Support and the Android App is not aviable anymore. What a fucking shit. Roland never again! I hate you for this!
This is why I bought the JD-XA and not the System-8 - the JD-XA is a real hardware synth with real analog. I understand the frustration of System-8 owners, especially now that the System-8 itself is a VSTi, one which I use a lot, but if Roland does what it has promised for Zenology by the time the Pro version is released in a few months, it will truly be the most powerful VSTi ever made. As it is, it is already a formidable rackmount-style synth, better than the JV-1080 and XV-5080 in my opinion.
4:26 so good
Im going to Roland Cloud Cool All Roland Oldis Good
Is it possible to buy it as a stand-alone without the cloud subscription? (Similar to the sound canvas va)
Biohazard Studios upawg.ca/
Do you can remake a video of your Jupiter 8 and Juno 6/60
Why can not be automated a two knobs below main knobs?) Question from your subscriber from Russia, sorry for my English)
Nice cap by the way
Can Zenology be used with controllers other than Roland? Alesis Vortex 2?
simply breathtaking ❤
I guess now we can create sounds for the MC-101... for 9.99 usd / month.
Does it work like a vst 😊?
Frank Lundin no like a vst plug-in 😜
@@CS-sf1rz hahahaha
Like the first sound very much like John Foxx cathedral oceans
I love Synthesizers
Thanks for the video! :)
Man you are the best!
Wow that's great 👍
Could you make some Hard Bass Techno? Maybe as a challenge or sth. else? (I am from Germany, my English might be bad)
did you experience any puff or latency issues?
Hi Doctor Mix,
Does this still work if you are disconnected from the internet. If I had a subscription and I work in camp in the middle of the desert or the Jungle as I do, would I still be able to to it?
Does it install the sounds to the computer and does it remember you subscription service on you computer ? Many thanks.
no, i think you have to be online
veramente figo !!!!!
I have been a user of Roland products for over thirty years. I currently own a Roland V-Synth XT and a Roland Integra-7. I downloaded and installed the Roland Cloud and subsequently the free version of Zenology and multiple libraries. Roland insists that Zenlolgy, which is a VST3, must be installed in the (Windows) C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 directory. I moved it to a folder on my D:\ drive and it worked just fine. However, although multiple Factory Preset Banks install with Zenology the patch browser only recoginzed Bank A, even it the plugin was left in the VST3 folder on the C:\ drive. It didn't recognize any of the additional downloaded libraries at all and there is no utility to point the browser to the install location. The install location is requested by the installer, implying users choice. After contacting Roland support (which was reasonably prompt) I found out that, no, the libraries must be located in a specified folder on the C:\ drive only. To add insult to injury I also found out from Roland support that Zenlolgy does not support MIDI patch change protocols. You can use a patch chance message to select any patch with a number between 0-127, but Zenology has patches with numbers higher than 127, thus there is no way to select them, e.g.,, with a patch change message in a DAW. Finally, the Roland Cloud app randomly pops up solicitations for other Roland products on your desktop using the Windows message utilty. I've removed Zenology and Roland Cloud from my PC and won't be using any Roland software products in the forseeable future.
Nice...Very nice my dude!!
so all sound from vst? or any hardware involved?
Just the Zenology VST
Don't Call Me Xxx, Whitey,. by Sly and the Family Stone could be that riff you said to identify in these comments. Or it could be something else... :) Love your fun attitude and chops!
You didn‘t mention the pesky subscription model for non editable patches....
Is anyone else not able to find the plug in (windows). Cloud manager says zenology is installed, but nothing. !?!?
Also, where's the support from Roland?
No problems here. But if you are having problems: www.rolandcloud.com/support
At 2:25 I thought you are about to play Grace Jones's Libertango :)
for that beatbox section, we need a husky as accompaniment track :)
That first jam sounds like a 'Where the streets have no name' by U2, doesn't it?
that little riff is similiar to ACE THE BASS all that she wants
Good afternoon boss man how can I download it I already have the account but I don’t know how to download nothing yet can you please help me
Wait so does this make it pointless to own a Jupiter X for example if I can basically have the same sounds and more with purchasing this software?
The Jupiter X is a beautiful giggable instrument. If you're happy with your rig, why buy ANYTHING? VSTs are quick adds to your arsenal. Easily forgotten days after acquisition. A new hardware synth is a new friend. I dunno.
Yes
More tools than mind now. 🤓🎹💤💭🎼👍🔈
Coool 😎sounds fantastic
Okay, let's be clear the System 8 is a great bit of kit, ARIA sounds wonderful and it's a total shame Roland have seemingly dropped it. What I would sat this plugin essentially has the Zen Core engine from the Fantom etc. I subscribed to the $3 monthly, whether it sounds better than the System 8 or not it still sounds very decent and is incredible value for money.
мужик ты уговорил меня подписаться, у тебя талант...
gostei muito!
So many hats for just one head :D
the roland jupiter xm looks soo promising
Is it possible to buy this without the subscription to the Cloud? I prefer permanent products. I checked and I didn’t find the option to buy.
They do sell lifetime keys. Seems right now if you buy a year's cloud subscription they throw in the lifetime key for one (Pro) or two (Ultimate) instruments. Search "Play 4 life"
Man that’s dope!!!
Does Jupiter X/Xm has FM synthesis capabilities?
12:20 Immediately thinking of Stevie Wonder's - Superstition 😎
you'll know you can sample into the os's on the zen core right? it's almost like my fav. Roland synth I own V-synth! I got the mc-707 and it's the most fun I've had with a Roland Seq! the old workstations were always A BITCH! My JP 8080 sits collecting dust because I hate working on it! the V-synths supersaw with duel filters sound better IMO. I hope they open up different filters in the ZEN-Core hardware when we download a patch into them fro. the ZEN thing.
Wow! your studio has come along way in 3 years....and no red shirt
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welcome to youtube, you must be new here xD
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Dr. Mix which medical school did you go to?
School Of Mix
Wish Roland took the time to make analog synths like behringer, sequential, moog and korg.
Seems they are too focused on making digital synths and vsts, which, while in tune sound too perfect and sterile.
kiko 1 Roland Gaia SH-101
Boutique range?
@@TheManInCommand digital synth. Not saying digital is bad, I love digital synths, but to have an analog jupiter 8 would be incredible.
Their most recent analog attempts have been the SE-01 (which has a lot of digital architecture in it), JD-XA (has an analog section but mostly digital) and I guess adding an analog filter to the new Fantom.
But the minilogue did REALLY well, and Behringer's clones have been doing very nicely too. Just seems like they're intentionally ignoring a sizeable part of the marketplace.
Nice stuff man! If I didn't have JD-XA and Sustem 8 yet, I might want to go for a Jupiter X :)
In a heartbeat!
Loved it