NEW! Q BOOMBOX: The Honey Badger's Big Brother

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • In this episode of TFBTV, ‪@JamesReeves‬ interviews the creator of the Honey Badger, Kevin Brittingham of Q, about the new Q Boombox. The Boombox is, more or less, the "big brother" of the Honey Badger. While the Honey Badger uses a 5.56mm sized frame to accommodate .300 Blackout rounds, the Boombox uses the new 8.6mm Blackout, which works in the same size frame as 7.62mm guns like .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. And even though the Blackout has a big caliber and capability jump, it is only a few ounces heavier and a few inches longer than the Honey Badger. See what all the noise is about.
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  • @TheDandyMann
    @TheDandyMann Рік тому +1245

    I know it might not be possible, but i think the cheaper version should be called the Walkman

  • @fire_tower
    @fire_tower Рік тому +800

    Thank God it doesn't come with the universal standard MLOK and instead comes in something proprietary that no one asked for.

    • @caleballen9765
      @caleballen9765 Рік тому +197

      Typical Q lol

    • @genericadjectivenounname9001
      @genericadjectivenounname9001 Рік тому +106

      It's a boutique weapon from a boutique company. I think it's fair for them to experiment with new things that may or may not end up crossing to the normal market. If someone cares enough, they could sell MLOK rails for the gun. The rest of us can wait for another company to start selling an 8.6 gun that doesn't cost $3k just for the gun version of the Apple tax. It's not like an AR10/DPMS couldn't do what this gun does if you give it an 8.6 barrel.

    • @chrisdavisunofficial
      @chrisdavisunofficial Рік тому +24

      As far as Qsert goes, I'd suggest using them before complaining. It is by far the best attachment system ever designed. In addition to the best performance, it is the lightest.

    • @tommcfarland5368
      @tommcfarland5368 Рік тому +57

      ​@@genericadjectivenounname9001 thanks Kevin B. We get it, you shoulda went Mlok. Dont be like LWRC

    • @tommcfarland5368
      @tommcfarland5368 Рік тому +50

      ​@@chrisdavisunofficialok Kev, ya dont need to reply with Two different accounts..

  • @maximusjoseppi5904
    @maximusjoseppi5904 Рік тому +506

    the most annoying thing about this cartridge is that you need a 338 silencer for it.... thats rough. most of us have 762 silencers..
    so youre looking at $3-4k for the rifle plus $200 tax, $1-1.5k for a silencer plus $200 tax, $2.5k in ammo just to start with 1k rounds... this is a $6.5k+ investment just for a new caliber. thats a lot of 762+300bo guns and ammo we could buy for that price. id say its cool but inaccessible for all but a few with money to burn to experiment.

    • @D_Boone
      @D_Boone Рік тому +96

      This wasn't built for you and me.

    • @berryreading4809
      @berryreading4809 Рік тому +17

      It's kinda the same thing as 6.8spc, 6.5 grendel, .300BLK... It was really expensive for the people who initially invested, but they basically paid for the tooling and manufacturing costs to make it more commonly affordable for the future adopters... Can't argue about the can though, most people don't already have a .338 can... Although I am actually looking forward to what Q does in the "multi caliber" steel can market... They have a whole new lineup of basically titanium weight welded baffle and mystery steel silencers supposedly coming soon, and some are supposed to be comparatively cheap vs. comparable silencers... I guess we shall see 🤔

    • @Andrew-ps6xe
      @Andrew-ps6xe Рік тому +28

      Stop being poor

    • @donh1572
      @donh1572 Рік тому +9

      You need a new job

    • @bryanduchane2371
      @bryanduchane2371 Рік тому +8

      Think a 9mm can would work just fine. Can would have to be rated to run 300BO subs too. I know Microtech Defense won a military silencer request for a 9mm can a few years ago and their can was rated for 300BO and were checking to see if their can could be rated 8.6BO too, but never heard if they got it approved for 8.6BO... That can was about $1200.00 If you wanting to know the answer, check with MicroTech Defense if you're serious about that silencer.

  • @FloridaMan762
    @FloridaMan762 Рік тому +228

    if you thought 300 blk was expensive now imagine shooting 8.6

    • @roberthutchinson2856
      @roberthutchinson2856 Рік тому +12

      Psa had made 300 blk very reasonable

    • @D_Boone
      @D_Boone Рік тому +9

      I can find 300 BLK for cheaper than 5.56 and almost as cheap as 9mm. Or reload it yourself for pennies on the dollar.

    • @TheDiameter
      @TheDiameter Рік тому +35

      @@D_Boonecheapest new 9mm is .23¢ per round and 5.56 is .39¢, I’d like to know where you’re getting new 300blk at less than .39¢

    • @TheDiameter
      @TheDiameter Рік тому +24

      @@D_Boonethe absolute cheapest 300 on the market is .48¢ before shipping and tax.

    • @joquin4618
      @joquin4618 Рік тому +13

      @@TheDiameterthanks for keeping it real

  • @emersonchattin9512
    @emersonchattin9512 Рік тому +122

    You lost me at full auto for the government.

    • @XDWX
      @XDWX Рік тому +85

      Lost me at selling to the government period.

    • @10mmbestmm81
      @10mmbestmm81 Рік тому +22

      Based

    • @long-hair-dont-care88.
      @long-hair-dont-care88. Рік тому +1

      At only for the government.

    • @blodus4521
      @blodus4521 Рік тому +16

      I imagine 8.6 will be very effective for all fed pupper killing missions.

    • @scoobie331
      @scoobie331 Рік тому +3

      I'm all for Them selling it to the Government. The faster Uncle Sam gets His hands on it the faster You can get it off of the back of a Truck on Fulton Street for 1/5th the actual sticker price.

  • @famousmidnight
    @famousmidnight 7 місяців тому +5

    Proprietary rail system and seperate top rail. Man thats what i call ingenuity. Exactly what ive been waiting for... Extra cost and features that no one wants or needs

  • @jeremyabbott9909
    @jeremyabbott9909 Рік тому +51

    Was super cool meeting you James, Ryan and team as well as the Q Team in Portsmouth. Thanks for making time for the little people!!

  • @jkng4606
    @jkng4606 Рік тому +25

    The Government needs full auto, those IRS agents are all giggly about now

    • @YerBungus
      @YerBungus Рік тому +5

      It's only fitting that the government would give a $3K gun (that most people can't afford) to IRS agents.

    • @TuxPenguino
      @TuxPenguino 8 місяців тому

      The ability to Push pencils and pushing led sound the same... but they require vastly different skillsets.

  • @jlo6388
    @jlo6388 Рік тому +9

    James is a quality interviewer. He didn’t throw softball questions. KB stands behind his shit. I respect both dudes

  • @Anthony-ng5pq
    @Anthony-ng5pq Рік тому +12

    And the countdown to the PSA version begins.

  • @future_phonk
    @future_phonk Рік тому +21

    Can't wait to see a budget / just as good build.

    • @THESLlCK
      @THESLlCK Рік тому +1

      @@assclapper2231 *biden economy

    • @PrebleStreetRecords
      @PrebleStreetRecords 9 місяців тому +2

      PA-10 braced with a Faxon 12” barrel should be in the realm of $1.2k if you wait for sales.
      Reloading looks sub-$1/rd, the expensive part is the solid .338 projectile. You can get cheaper 338 projectiles but they might grenade leaving the muzzle from the rotational energy.

  • @AverageJoe4063
    @AverageJoe4063 Рік тому +30

    Good to see you carrying that Boom Box properly.

    • @4321watts
      @4321watts Рік тому

      Chad! This guy is a chad

  • @Murky_Lurks
    @Murky_Lurks Рік тому +5

    twist rate changing the subsonic game... damn it.

  • @BullsMahunny
    @BullsMahunny Рік тому +54

    Can't say I'm super happy that these gun companies are still carving out weapon niches for the government.

    • @nikik5567
      @nikik5567 Рік тому +14

      Military contracts are what drive the firearm industry, they offer more money than the commercial market ever could for a single company. This is how it has always been. The civilian market with its restrictions would limit most companies to “16 inch semi auto only” rifles which doesn’t give them a ton of room to change much with designs.

    • @DPham1
      @DPham1 Рік тому

      Yep, the same government that's infringing on ironically enough our rights to bear arms and that field agents to carry out their bidding who use...you guessed it: arms

    • @Fadaar
      @Fadaar Рік тому +5

      outlandish requirements set forth by govt contracts tend to trickle down to us, the pleb consumers. it's annoying when we can't get things because of government contracts but a lot of times those products wouldn't even exist otherwise.

    • @DeplorableBitterClinger
      @DeplorableBitterClinger Рік тому +3

      @@nikik5567 some people in here seemed to have missed the point, that should have been made clear by the "still"

    • @nikik5567
      @nikik5567 Рік тому

      @@DeplorableBitterClinger that point being what exactly? I genuinely want to hear what this supposed reason is.

  • @frostblasts
    @frostblasts Рік тому +60

    Missed opportunity to call it wolverine, being similar to honey badgers but larger.

    • @acemace3618
      @acemace3618 Рік тому +3

      Nah I like the more unusual names they give their products rather than the generic, pretentious, overly patriotic played out names everyone else gives their products.

    • @colbyperry3325
      @colbyperry3325 Рік тому +3

      @@acemace3618Wolverine is so played out and patriotic, you’re right.

    • @acemace3618
      @acemace3618 Рік тому +2

      @@colbyperry3325 pretentious at best

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому +4

      @@acemace3618I can agree, but boombox is gaf.

    • @Coeford
      @Coeford Рік тому +1

      Literally thought the same thing. Well said😅

  • @WillMoon
    @WillMoon Рік тому +35

    All I know is that a Boombox is not a toy.

    • @Spencebot42
      @Spencebot42 Рік тому +3

      Underated 😂

    • @mattrobson3603
      @mattrobson3603 Рік тому +3

      This one specifically doesn't have the Turbo Bass, but you still have to know your limits with a Boom Box.

    • @Pyreleaf
      @Pyreleaf Рік тому +5

      DO NOT PLAY YOUR BOOMBOX IN A RETIREMENT HOME

  • @dariusgordon2266
    @dariusgordon2266 Рік тому +17

    I personally would love to see a rail that covers about half the suppressor. Maybe a rail cover to reduce heating for it too.

    • @Starkesea
      @Starkesea Рік тому +1

      Basically a book box SD? Add the head shield like the minifix SD and I think that's what you're asking for

    • @dariusgordon2266
      @dariusgordon2266 Рік тому

      @@Starkesea yes, exactly. Thanks for clarifying

  • @genghiskun2287
    @genghiskun2287 Рік тому +32

    Im gay and really glad to see an LGBTQ+ alternative to mlok

  • @ICanDoItMyself
    @ICanDoItMyself Рік тому +7

    So, let me see if I understand. They are making their own proprietary mounting system instead of m-lok? Why? Top rail is separate instead of machined into the receiver? Why? I’m interested in the cartridge, but come on, so many questions why. Is 8.6 only limited to Q? Cuz an 8.6 Rattler would be awesome!

  • @Lexman00
    @Lexman00 Рік тому +4

    These prices are out of this world LOL. I will always appreciate the guys in the industry pushing the limits of innovation though.

    • @famousmidnight
      @famousmidnight 7 місяців тому

      You get to pay extra $400 for that proprietary rail that no one asked for.

  • @roseprecision
    @roseprecision Рік тому +15

    The embargo must have just lifted I saw three other guntubers upload a video on this.

    • @tfbtv
      @tfbtv  Рік тому +21

      Thanks for recognizing an embargo without having a full blown seizure thinking that we got paid to make the video like your fellow commenters.

    • @newerest1
      @newerest1 Рік тому

      ​@@tfbtvconspiracy!! Collusion!!! Reeeeeeee

  • @matthewconnor5483
    @matthewconnor5483 Рік тому +6

    This makes more sense then the Sig .277 furry and the super hot military load.

    • @ziayankee1407
      @ziayankee1407 3 місяці тому

      Sub sonic armor piercing 1000yds???? No comparison

    • @matthewconnor5483
      @matthewconnor5483 2 місяці тому

      @@ziayankee1407 the sig 277 and that whole crap show of of weapons program exists to counter the pkm which is dumb idea from the get go. The answer to counter the pin in far ambushes is more 240s and 60mm mortars not the m14 v2.0.
      Having a subsonic round to whack people at longer distances without letting the whole valley know you are there is something the Russians already have incorporated into their unit layout.

  • @b33pb00pbr1tt
    @b33pb00pbr1tt Рік тому +78

    Imagine coming out with a new gun that is essentially an AR platform in 2023 that ISN"T ambi!

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому +19

      I don’t like most ambi controls, personally. It’s extra weight, more crap to get caught on things, and more crap to get in the way. I de-ambi (aside from the charging handle) just about every factory AR I’ve ever bought, even a POF (heresy, I know).

    • @ethanbarnes3973
      @ethanbarnes3973 Рік тому +29

      Imagine being a lefty 😂

    • @jb76489
      @jb76489 Рік тому +37

      @@jackjohnson291 how weak are you that the weight of a single safety selector or a big deal?

    • @ClitoridectomyGroyper
      @ClitoridectomyGroyper Рік тому +7

      just don't be inferior handed

    • @citizenoftheninthdivision
      @citizenoftheninthdivision Рік тому +4

      You're left handed? 🤢

  • @1985Jleezy
    @1985Jleezy Рік тому +20

    12 years later and still no ambi controls

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому +3

      They’re entirely unnecessary, unless you’re wrong handed.

    • @newerest1
      @newerest1 Рік тому +1

      ​@@jackjohnson291I like being able to lock open the bolt without taking my hand off the grip

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому

      They’re still dumb.

  • @krowchuk1
    @krowchuk1 Рік тому +7

    I’m a huge fan of the 300 blk out. Done got 8.6 blk out ammunition but no gun. It’s in the works for me. Maybe I’m looking at it wrong but the faster twist rate will give more kinetic energy on target than most other common guns. Why kill my hearing or my shoulder.

    • @raiter14
      @raiter14 Рік тому

      The high twist rate is needed to stabilize the slow, heavy, subsonic bullet. I'm comfortable guessing the vast majority of the energy deposited into a target comes from a bullet's linear velocity not rotational velocity...I think if you fired a spitzer into gel from close range (no chance to keyhole) from a rifled and unrifled barrel you'd see pretty similar results aside from any tumbling the lack of spin might introduce

  • @wittsullivan8130
    @wittsullivan8130 Рік тому +19

    I remember reading about people loading hot rounds with 40-45 grain hp or soft point bullets in .223 and shooting them with 1/7 twist barrels and the bullets fragmented as they left the barrel from the combination of high velocity and fast twist. 1/3 twist is insane! :)

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn Рік тому +3

      There's been some claims that 8.6 with lead-core projectiles have the jacket tear apart under the 1/3 twist rate. If that is true then solid-copper projectiles may be the only option.

    • @oliverlamie3449
      @oliverlamie3449 Рік тому +2

      I've heard the same claim on 55gr 243 Winchester at a "fast" (I think 1:9) twist rate. Good thing they only load with monolithic copper slugs.

    • @Marksman5147
      @Marksman5147 Рік тому +2

      Well that’s because the heavier the bullet the faster twist you need with a shorter barrel, .300 blackout was designed for a 1:5 twist barrel, hence why Sig and Q who actually invented .300 all use 1:5 twist for their .300 guns.

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому

      @@Marksman5147The issue becomes versatility over speciality. I’ve never been too impressed with subs in 300BLK and use supers (even when suppressed). Since it seems the majority of people are shooting unsuppressed, there isn’t a big advantage in shooting lackluster subs, hence the popularity of slower twist rates. Lucky for us all, there are tons of options to meet our needs.

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому +1

      @@AnonEMus-cp2mnnot true

  • @bucdan9242
    @bucdan9242 Рік тому +35

    If Q teams up with PSA/AAC, rich and poors, 8.6 might be more widely available 😂

  • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
    @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 Рік тому +107

    Never had any issues with regular mlok mounting of accessories. Just looks like an excuse to charge more money to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

    • @gundude82
      @gundude82 Рік тому +43

      Q's known for making things that appeal to people with more money than sense.

    • @fullfire0
      @fullfire0 Рік тому +11

      Thought the same thing. Why try to fix something that doesn't need fixing? Just stupid

    • @frognutz0o
      @frognutz0o Рік тому +1

      I dont think it matters to the person that can afford the gun.

    • @cynickicksass
      @cynickicksass Рік тому +7

      What benefit to you, or anyone, is derived from publicly announcing that you can't afford this?

    • @bradenmchenry995
      @bradenmchenry995 Рік тому

      @@fullfire0mlok can’t be used when it’s integrally suppressed but this isn’t so…

  • @timredfeathers7317
    @timredfeathers7317 Рік тому +3

    2:00 the put a word “fuck” on a hydraulic press!!! Love the Q!

  • @davidbecker1641
    @davidbecker1641 Рік тому +7

    As a Boom Box it should be shoulder mounted with a hip hop step and threaded for a sub woofer aftermarket suppressor.

  • @hobbstactv2571
    @hobbstactv2571 Рік тому +17

    9x39 exists, fits in a shorter action, fires bullets that are slightly wider and just as heavy, and doesn't require a twist rate that's closer to a thread pitch than rifling. I just don't understand 8.6.

    • @nikik5567
      @nikik5567 Рік тому +3

      It’s not Russian.

    • @maximusjoseppi5904
      @maximusjoseppi5904 Рік тому +6

      well it doesnt sound like youre a ballistics engineer so no one would imagine youd understand it

    • @roberthutchinson2856
      @roberthutchinson2856 Рік тому +5

      9x39 doesnt have the super sonic capability offered by 8.6

    • @Andrew-ps6xe
      @Andrew-ps6xe Рік тому +3

      9x39 has inferior terminal performance at subsonic velocities. The copper 8.6 projectiles peel into half dollar size flowers. 8.6 is not meant for plinking. It's meant to maximize subsonic performance at ranges well beyond conventional subsonic ranges.

    • @notjaisavage740
      @notjaisavage740 Рік тому

      Why the fuck is the boombox using such a short barrel?

  • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
    @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Рік тому +6

    I suggested the Brown Bear and the budget friendly Black Bear.
    But im also building a 300 BLK Honey Buzzard so my naming ideas may not be great.

  • @stephensands3485
    @stephensands3485 Рік тому +13

    Extremely cool and imo usefully innovate design. Cutting edge stuff is usually prohibitively expensive for most people, but hopefully we’ll see something similar to what we saw with the 5.7s, 300 BLKs and etc., where the initial versions were super expensive, but after a few years other manufacturers came out with more affordable options.

    • @Sophisticlesenergy
      @Sophisticlesenergy Рік тому +2

      Fully agree, I see huge versatility for military and hunting applications with this round
      Would be interested to see if they play with the twist rate and higher pressure loads for more range

  • @fire_tower
    @fire_tower Рік тому +16

    Here's a better name Q: The Wolverine. A honey badger but bigger and meaner.

  • @localforearm1627
    @localforearm1627 Рік тому +3

    why we using giant beercan casings if we dont have a barrel to burn the powder in?

    • @SandstormGT
      @SandstormGT Рік тому

      Why comment on something you clearly know nothing about?

    • @localforearm1627
      @localforearm1627 Рік тому

      @@SandstormGT did you report my comments?

    • @SandstormGT
      @SandstormGT Рік тому

      @@localforearm1627 no, why would I do that?

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому

      It does.

    • @localforearm1627
      @localforearm1627 Рік тому

      why would you want to carry giant mags and gaint cases and a giant 308 frame to just shoot a heavy subsonic round? ever heard of .45 acp? lol

  • @RocksJiggle
    @RocksJiggle Рік тому +4

    Hopefully, I can source parts. I would love to build an 8-10 in 8.6, so happy the cal is moving forward.

  • @neonwhitea.1548
    @neonwhitea.1548 Рік тому +9

    Who the hell named this thing?

  • @Otuhh
    @Otuhh Рік тому +11

    The gun is neat. But im more interested in if other companies will make a rifle chambered in 8.6. Maybe we will get a ptr51 chambered in it and it won't be such a flashbang. Maybe a ruger sfar 8.6 version. Yeah it might be better than 300 blk, but some of big companies are just now making more than one/two rifles(or options) chambered in 300 and its been out awhile.

    • @Helmforge
      @Helmforge Рік тому

      Faxon already sells rifles and barrels in 8.6 Blackout.

    • @Two_Names
      @Two_Names Рік тому

      SFAR in multiple calibers is where the win is. Just need better barrel change capacity and aftermarket options. Lightweight .308 frame has so much potential.

    • @Marksman5147
      @Marksman5147 Рік тому

      Genesis Arms already unrevealed their 8.6BLK PDW with proprietary stock they designed for LR308 lowers (meant for their lower that works with any LR308 lower)

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому

      Of course they will. Just like they all made 300blk rifles after we did that…

  • @johnnyrocket1320
    @johnnyrocket1320 Рік тому +11

    I like it as a specialty platform. Especially for hunting. Does anyone know if they fixed the FIX 6.5 Creedmoor feeding issues with ballistic tipped ammo ? Read about it in the Hide .....

    • @Will-Mc09
      @Will-Mc09 Рік тому +2

      I haven’t had issues with mine. I have a Proof barrel though. I’ve taken some game with 6.5 too

  • @sigpig912
    @sigpig912 Місяць тому +1

    I absolutely love my Q HoneyBadger and my Q Fix. I'm waiting on my 12" 8.6 Fix barrel now. The Q Boom - Box chambered in .8.6 blk will be my next purchase...! As soon as it comes out I'ma do my best to be one of the first one to get one when they do drop... 😁 Can't wait. Then next I want to get a Genesis 12 SBS, PDS

    • @pharmgator2001
      @pharmgator2001 22 дні тому +1

      Got my 12" 8.6 Fix last month. Approved in 12 days. Sick ass rifle dude, but that ammo is $$$$. Bonus, free Porq Chop through the promo they were running. The Porq Chop is going to take 60-90 days to process though (I am 30 days into the wait).

  • @sub0fathom
    @sub0fathom Рік тому +5

    It is somewhat like a space marine Bolter.

  • @timewave02012
    @timewave02012 Рік тому +4

    Thank you TFB TV for actually justifying the fast twist of 8.6 BLK. I didn't understand the point of .338 subsonic, considering it doesn't get that much more mass, and therefore forward kinetic energy (because velocity is limited), but if you can put extra energy into spinning, it helps the bullet expand, and transfer energy to the target.

  • @derekddurbin
    @derekddurbin Рік тому +1

    I love KB I have the fix mini fix HBSD and Thunder Chicken el Camino erector and erector 9. I can’t wait to get my hands on a boombox I’d love to build one or just check the shop out sometime and spend a vacation day out there and meet KB. I’ve loved his creations since the AAC days.

  • @floridaman727
    @floridaman727 Рік тому +28

    Should’ve stuck to a name like the honey badger. Maybe wolverine or grizzly or something

    • @Tokio_Tsu
      @Tokio_Tsu Рік тому

      demo ranch gave them the name idea

  • @RippinBeefers
    @RippinBeefers Рік тому +24

    This gives off a "completely useless" vibe that many shooters dont seem to like.

    • @ClitoridectomyGroyper
      @ClitoridectomyGroyper Рік тому +8

      You don't actually get it because you got a room temp IQ

    • @TheGreekSparten
      @TheGreekSparten Рік тому

      ​@@ClitoridectomyGroyperyour name shows you are a nonwhite

    • @RippinBeefers
      @RippinBeefers Рік тому +5

      @@ClitoridectomyGroyper it would seem that youre only saying that because youre a good little follower consumerist and dont actually look at the specifications of these things. 8.6blk is completely useless to begin with anyways.

    • @ClitoridectomyGroyper
      @ClitoridectomyGroyper Рік тому +2

      @@RippinBeefers You wouldn't see the use because you're living in the stone age. This is a similar platform to the Russian AS Val and VSS Vintorez but obviously much superior in quality and execution.

    • @RippinBeefers
      @RippinBeefers Рік тому +3

      @@ClitoridectomyGroyper the use is to spend more money on a cartridge and gun thats only slightly better than the existing options for marginal result improvement. If it was such a great caliber and gun, every manufacturer would be racing to make this shit combo.

  • @ShootingUtah
    @ShootingUtah 10 місяців тому +1

    Reloading for 8.6 is going to be a MUST! With modified .308 brass the cost of reloading ammo shouldn't actually be that bad. Not any worse than any other large hunting caliber. .338 bullets are still usually quite expensive but if this caliber takes off like 300blk did then there should be some good affordable options out there over the next 5 to 10 years. I'm excited to see if that happens and to build a gun in the caliber to mess around with.

  • @MUCKLEECH
    @MUCKLEECH Рік тому +9

    two things will kill this: 1. Brace ban 2. Special 8.6mm suppressors vs standard .30 cal cans

    • @brivas3343
      @brivas3343 Рік тому +2

      .338 cans are a thing.

    • @MUCKLEECH
      @MUCKLEECH Рік тому +4

      @@brivas3343 yeah no shit. How many of them are in consumers hands VS .308 suppressors?

    • @colby1398
      @colby1398 Рік тому +3

      @@brivas3343 Sure, but nobody owns them. As opposed to 7.62/.308 cans that are extremely common.

    • @huntmatthewd
      @huntmatthewd Рік тому +4

      Uh, you need to pull out a 2nd mortgage for ammo. That could be a slight issue. 😒

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому +1

      No use bought .30 silencers until I did 300 Blk 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @AndrewAspiringGamer
    @AndrewAspiringGamer Рік тому +1

    The one thing i wish it had is the Brownells gas shutoff system that lets you use it as a straightpull bolt action. In case you want the semi auto with optional super quiet shots.

  • @ColourOfTheGods
    @ColourOfTheGods Рік тому +8

    8.6 with a 1:3 twist rate. AKA how to shoot out your barrel after 1000 rounds. Pretty though

  • @chrisb9478
    @chrisb9478 Рік тому +4

    Man, with fast light supersonic Hornady CX bullet loads, this would be a cool lightweight treestand deer rifle. 😁

  • @Rayneman215
    @Rayneman215 Рік тому +3

    Video intro had me rolling 🤣 over here the guy shooting fourth walling the camera with the smile grin 🤣🤣🤣 all in slow motion

  • @glmorten
    @glmorten Рік тому +1

    Managing a whole other platform and ammo is just in the cards for me right now. I already am running out of room!

  • @spacebagels_5217
    @spacebagels_5217 Рік тому +4

    Jesus Christ man Kevin is something else. He thinks they make better triggers than Geissele? Q is the cult brand 100%

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому

      It is. Geissele can double. So, disqualifier for a lot of contracts. Q trigger is better.

  • @cb253
    @cb253 Рік тому +2

    Kevin,
    Please follow through with the less exquisite version!
    I prefer to customize all of my ARs the same way. I called to get a custom 8.6 BO Barrel for a DPMS Small Frame G2, and it was over $1000 since I only wanted one.
    At over $2500 I would prefer not to build a frankenstein DPMS, and would rather buy your Sugar Weasel version of the Boom Box!

    • @BaddFrogg777
      @BaddFrogg777 Рік тому

      Or get a Robinson Arms XCR-M in .308. Or various calibers available.

  • @thefrustratedtheologian6238
    @thefrustratedtheologian6238 Рік тому +3

    So, 8.6 mm equals .338 caliber.

    • @Running_Firewater
      @Running_Firewater 5 місяців тому +1

      Yep, 8.6 blackout is using the same projectiles as the 338 federal, 338 rcm, 338wm, & 338 Lapua.

  • @SlimeSquare
    @SlimeSquare Рік тому +1

    James Reeve's shorts are getting shorter and shorter and I'm here for it.

  • @Techcensorshipbot
    @Techcensorshipbot Рік тому +4

    "select fire for the government"
    Yeah because they can be trusted with automatic weapons, they are above the lowly citizen.

  • @ianbrisland1982
    @ianbrisland1982 Рік тому +1

    “Just about everything in Africa…” not sure how well that will go down

  • @robfarrell9104
    @robfarrell9104 Рік тому +10

    Can’t wait to see them cease and desist again once the ATF catches wind of this platform. Nothing better than a manufacture with a backbone lol.

    • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
      @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 Рік тому

      And they still wanna sell select fire to the government...

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому +4

      “Select fire for the government” isn’t a backbone, but it’s closer than many other manufacturers to it.

    • @robfarrell9104
      @robfarrell9104 Рік тому +4

      @@jackjohnson291 I was referring to them caving to the ATF so easily when it came to pistol verse SBR.

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому

      @@robfarrell9104Ah, gotcha. My mistake. And I agree completely.

  • @jackjederstrombergman4987
    @jackjederstrombergman4987 Рік тому +7

    So it took 10 years from 300blk to be introduced to being a mainstream round. Lets hope 8.6 takes less than that

    • @JaronActual
      @JaronActual Рік тому +1

      I don't see it happening. 300 BLK has the advantage of fitting in the smaller, more affordable AR-15 platform. 8.6 requires the larger, much more expensive AR-10. Maybe you can do it in something like a Ruger SFAR. 300 BLK uses common and inexpensive .308 bullets. 8.6 needs less common and more expensive .338 bullets, particularly ones that that can withstand the fast twist rate.
      300 BLK succeeded because it could live up to most of the marketing hype. It's an extremely versatile round that performs well in places the 9mm and 5.56 fall short. You can run it subsonic at close range where it outperforms the 9mm using a platform the same size as just about any sub gun. The trade-off is ammo is heavier to carry. Supersonic, it delivers much more damage than 5.56 at shorter ranges, but it doesn't reach the 500-600 yards 5.56 can. But if you only care about 0-300 yards, it does a great job right there. It's not a bad one-rifle solution for someone who wants a defensive weapon that can also be used for hunting medium game.
      8.6 BLK is mostly a one-trick pony. I'm sure it's a fun range toy, but I don't know how big the short-range subsonic large game hunting market is. But outside that, it doesn't do anything that .308 or 6.5 CM can't, other than drain your wallet.

    • @morgan2029
      @morgan2029 Рік тому

      @@JaronActual I already had a solid 308 AR-10 and for $300 I got a 86 barrel and gas block. So the total invested in my rifle was around $1000. My AR-10 is a M&P 10 and got it on sale.

  • @drez13
    @drez13 Рік тому +5

    Love the research and striving to improve and optimise these guys do.

  • @BB-yh5rd
    @BB-yh5rd Рік тому +5

    I love engineers because without them and left up to me humanity would still be using sharp sticks and throwing rocks. AR and AK are super cool but now that every 5 blocks someone is making those things it's just a matter of time before someone innovated. This is a pretty cool looking setup which I will wait a couple years for to come down in price so I can feed the kids chicken in the meantime.

  • @huey13player
    @huey13player Рік тому +4

    "Why do i care about q sert?" We don't, and we don't want it.

  • @KD-lb9bg
    @KD-lb9bg Рік тому +12

    Lol, all this, including proprietary attachments and the absolute worst name ever.

    • @wafflebunny123
      @wafflebunny123 Рік тому +1

      an attempt to be hipster or cool with the kids lol

    • @ReaperLust
      @ReaperLust Рік тому +2

      And don't forget ugly colors.

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому +1

      It’s so good.

    • @KD-lb9bg
      @KD-lb9bg Рік тому

      @@kevinbrittingham6774 Lol, the "Ghetto Blaster 3000".

  • @maximaleffort
    @maximaleffort Рік тому +2

    Wow this is cool. Thanks for sharing the fruit of your hard work all. 🍻

  • @huntmatthewd
    @huntmatthewd Рік тому +3

    Maybe a couple small unit military contracts and a couple collectors. Maybe. It sounds neat, just nowhere near practical $.

  • @gamerm4876
    @gamerm4876 Рік тому +2

    I Have been waiting for this to finally surface thx for this video

  • @PartyRockProfessional
    @PartyRockProfessional Рік тому +11

    Less than 2 minutes in and “we won’t sell auto’s to civilians”. Companies need to stop half assing their “pro-2A” stances

    • @roberthutchinson2856
      @roberthutchinson2856 Рік тому +5

      Show me a company selling autos to civilians

    • @rrr3r2
      @rrr3r2 Рік тому +2

      They literally can’t sell full auto guys to civilians

  • @thetraveler5798
    @thetraveler5798 Рік тому +3

    NICE 👍 ‼️
    Always thought about something like this. Well you did it. 👏👏👏
    Expensive BUT I think is worth it .
    Nice Job guys 👍!!
    😎🤙

  • @nickabrahall1412
    @nickabrahall1412 Рік тому +7

    Best firearm channel out there 👍

  • @mumblety96
    @mumblety96 Рік тому +3

    WHEN is Sig going to release the Raptor in 8.6BLK?

  • @Steve69419
    @Steve69419 Рік тому +3

    I love seeing guns that real people will never own

  • @a1racer441
    @a1racer441 Рік тому +1

    I like that it’s like 18 different colors of fde, it’s urban fde camo.

  • @misternitro1
    @misternitro1 Рік тому +3

    could you imagine getting hit full auto with a mag of 8.6 expanders? Dearest christ some Tier 1, blood lust dude is going to gungasm himself

  • @bmd1825
    @bmd1825 9 місяців тому

    Watching every video I can on this build...about to start assembling my “ project” AR-10 in 8.6

  • @rubeclayton8233
    @rubeclayton8233 Рік тому +3

    For Those Prices ...
    I'll Just Keep My .308
    Good Luck With Your Over Priced Products...

  • @other9293
    @other9293 Рік тому +2

    Can you note pros and cons vs 458 Socom in an AR15 platform. Mainly subsonic side of house.

  • @sirbalanced5486
    @sirbalanced5486 Рік тому +10

    Kevin is just like Uncle Rico

  • @sameullam
    @sameullam Рік тому +2

    thing is, with ammo coming in at around $2.5/round that's a big nope for most ppl. Hell some good 338 Lapua rounds are even cheaper than that, so it doesnt make sense.

  • @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
    @JorgeGarcia-lw7vc Рік тому +23

    I mean, yeah, it's cool. Couldn't you just rebarrel an Aero 308 and get something to do the same thing, for a third of the cost?

    • @Nick-hm9rh
      @Nick-hm9rh Рік тому +10

      Q isnt about Financial efficiency

    • @long-hair-dont-care88.
      @long-hair-dont-care88. Рік тому +2

      FN FAL or g series.

    • @roberthutchinson2856
      @roberthutchinson2856 Рік тому

      This looks to be based on the revolution receivers so not quite

    • @jasoncaponetti1597
      @jasoncaponetti1597 Рік тому +1

      Yes, you can re-barrel a .308/6.5 CM upper and change calibers with just the barrel swap. Same bolt face, same receiver, same magazines, etc. The gas tube lengths tend to be shorter (pistol length on 8" and 12" barrels, carbine length on 16" barrels) but it is pretty simple to change those components when you swap the barrel. It's not inexpensive to shoot, even if you reload, but it is fun and versatile as a hunting/home defense platform.

    • @danpurvis3108
      @danpurvis3108 Рік тому

      No… the whole point of 8.6 is that you can have a much, much higher grain bullet than a 308 case would allow because it’s a larger diameter, longer bullet going into a shorter case. That is what you want for shooting subs specifically. The idea is that you have a high energy subsonic platform that can also shoot supers in order to flex to longer ranges.

  • @brenttesterman3171
    @brenttesterman3171 Рік тому +1

    !!!!!Full blown game changer!!!!!

  • @kreevisful
    @kreevisful Рік тому +21

    Clown prices for civilians.
    But I'm sure *Big Brother* gets that nice sweet deal yea?
    3K?
    No, thanks. 🎉

    • @senioMseD
      @senioMseD Рік тому

      >civilians

    • @Havel_LordBear
      @Havel_LordBear Рік тому +1

      You do understand the coif bulk pricing vs individual unit pricing right?

    • @jackjohnson291
      @jackjohnson291 Рік тому +3

      @@Havel_LordBearThere’s hardly a bulk discount. Otherwise, they’d be better off just catering to the civilian market and not having to worry about crazy timelines and strict requirements. Our government is the least efficient organization on earth. The prices reflect what any potential contract would fetch, as they cannot sell contract guns for less than what they charge the government.

    • @bettycocker2226
      @bettycocker2226 Рік тому +2

      nothing is stopping you from building the poor mans version. They would never sell you guns at the same markup as other companies, they would never keep up with orders, quality would slip, and people would still bitch. Drop 1500 bucks and build a solid pistol version. youre still gonna be spending more than 2 bucks a round

    • @kreevisful
      @kreevisful Рік тому

      @bettycocker2226 That's what I wanted to say, but I need a nap.
      Thanks for posting it homie.

  • @kassenz
    @kassenz Рік тому +1

    8.6 kinda makes me forget about 350 Legend, 450, 458 SOCOM and 338 Federal and 450 Raptor

  • @Hati321
    @Hati321 Рік тому +15

    This is innovative stuff. And I don't mean just the 1 in 3" twist. But especially the twist rate. I think a lot of people don't understand what the twist rate can do for muzzle energy and energy downrange. I quickly built a spreadsheet to see what twist rate can do for energy and I'm still hard. And that's after I came a little.

    • @Sophisticlesenergy
      @Sophisticlesenergy Рік тому +1

      😂 scrolling at 4am and your comment did not disappoint 🤣🤣

    • @Sophisticlesenergy
      @Sophisticlesenergy Рік тому +3

      But for real imagine a round like this with a non expansive projectile in the style of the underwood extreme defender or penetrator
      Their whole thing works off rotational energy and I would bet that an 8.6 with that would be like shooting a 50 cal with no recoil (or range) and dead silent.
      They use a solid copper projectile too so no exploding ammo problem

    • @PrebleStreetRecords
      @PrebleStreetRecords 9 місяців тому +1

      I think there can be a lot of interesting development for lower MV but ultra-high rotation defensive rounds. Traditional soft expanding projectiles are basically a “solved game” at this point.

  • @clrd4tkoff
    @clrd4tkoff Рік тому +1

    That is such a cool gun!! WOW!! 🤗🤗🤗👍🏻👍🏻

  • @NavigatorTrig
    @NavigatorTrig Рік тому +11

    8.6 blk looks awesome, both the supers and subs.

  • @lambman1999
    @lambman1999 Рік тому +1

    Tape deck, ghetto deck, hi-fi, ghetto box, lo-fi, 808. Regardless of name I’ll probably get the lower end one to match my sugar weasel

  • @DevonReclaimed
    @DevonReclaimed Рік тому +17

    "select fire for the government"
    Spoken like an enslaved man

  • @samueldevore5082
    @samueldevore5082 Рік тому +1

    When the creator of 300 blackout starts saying he's got a newer better idea, I'm a listen

  • @Motorboatmike
    @Motorboatmike Рік тому +1

    That’s very interesting about twist rate and hollow point expansion🤔

  • @danielmackormack8524
    @danielmackormack8524 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for the review

  • @jaypee389
    @jaypee389 Рік тому

    I use thick rubber bands as a vert grip.
    Good for laying down a firebase standing.

  • @jediflipflops
    @jediflipflops Рік тому +3

    Why they missed out on Boom Stick???

    • @XDWX
      @XDWX Рік тому +1

      Boom Sticks are shotguns

  • @jameswilliamson3404
    @jameswilliamson3404 Рік тому +1

    when you put a bullet design through a twist rate way faster than intended, the bullet starts to break apart much easier, literally any reloader who has put a 40 grain 5.56 into a 1 in 7 twist barrel could have told you this.

  • @christopher7398
    @christopher7398 Рік тому +10

    Words cannot explain how little I care about this. Or anything from Q to be honest.

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому +5

      Thanks for caring enough to take the time to comment.

    • @alexmaurice4274
      @alexmaurice4274 Рік тому +2

      I think it looks neat even the proprietary rail-even tho I doubt it will ever be widely adopted but who knows. Only thing that puts me off in this video is the guy seems really egotistical

    • @christopher7398
      @christopher7398 Рік тому +1

      @@kevinbrittingham6774 Unlike this gun or “Q” I do care about one of my favorite gun channels and I’m always willing to leave a comment to help the algorithm and engage with other viewers. Thanks for taking the time to reply to my comment.

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому

      @@christopher7398sorry we hurt you.

    • @stevep5834
      @stevep5834 Рік тому

      ​@@kevinbrittingham6774Did you apologize to your ex wife after you beat her?

  • @disciplez0
    @disciplez0 Рік тому +2

    Cool idea and put together in an awsome way. If i could afford it i would buy it.

  • @wildcat8598
    @wildcat8598 Рік тому +3

    I recently got into 300blk since I got a can that I can run it suppressed and love it for fun but isn’t ideal for any kind of distance with subs. Seen the 8.6blk not too long ago and been waiting for manufacturers to start pumping these out. This thing is nasty and I want one!! Lol I’ve always been too poor for Q anything but I think I’m gonna start setting aside some coins here and there and save up for one of these then start on saving up for a can for it. Cool little tool and can’t wait to get ahold of one. Thanks for coming out with cool shit👍 also for James I wonder how many new subscribers those shirts got you on this video? I’m thinking a lot!!!

    • @edgarburlyman738
      @edgarburlyman738 Рік тому +1

      This round is gonna drop just as much as 300blk does, dude, it just hits harder when it gets there, same trajectory though.

    • @ElTubeo1515
      @ElTubeo1515 Рік тому +1

      If you pick a steel core bullet or some other penetration focused construction, you can maintain a lot of terminal performance at long ranges.

  • @ChrisB.C.
    @ChrisB.C. Рік тому +2

    The bottom row of projectiles in that comparison picture is horrifying. 😮

    • @fringeminority150
      @fringeminority150 Рік тому

      LoL was thinking the same bro, looks like would straight rip ya a new one +. Would like to see tests/comparisons of those in some gel....slo-mo ! ! ! !

  • @voteholyk
    @voteholyk Рік тому +3

    That hand rail system is dumb. I wasn't aware I needed something "stronger" than keymod or Mlok and then you have to buy all new stuff. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. That will probably make people not want to buy it. That being said, this round and gun is an engineering marvel for what it is. I hope it becomes cheaper and more common like 300 blk

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому

      The mounting system is superior. Stronger, lighter, better zero retention.

    • @voteholyk
      @voteholyk Рік тому +1

      ​@@kevinbrittingham6774 Just because something is "superior" doesn't make it more useful. I bet they put Mlok on the version they sell to market.

    • @kevinbrittingham6774
      @kevinbrittingham6774 Рік тому +1

      That’s ridiculous. But, a cheaper version will exist and be basic.

  • @nick-dm3if
    @nick-dm3if Рік тому +2

    We also need that select fire