Addendum: The Klein actually DOES lock in the halfway open position. I did not realize that because in normal operation (flipping it out) it flips right past the halfway lock. But upon further usage I discovered that it does actually lock in that position giving it one feature that the other drivers do not have (unless you count the Lenox's strong detent in that position.)
Lenox does have one that does have a proper ¼” bit driver that is centered, and also holds 2 spare blades in the back. Had it for years. It’s thiccc tho and the fastback feels way better.
Milwaukee 6in1 Fastback is my favorite. Milwaukee has now replaced the wire retention ring in the 1/4" bit holder with a ball bearing type retainer. Spec ops makes a utility knife that's really thick, 2 blade storage, no driver but has a window/skull crusher point on the butt end that is just an extension of the aluminum body, not carbide or tungsten. I've carried the Spec ops quite a bit along with a small keychain prytool. But i always come back using the Milwaukee. i put a serrated blade in the Milwaukee for cutting cordage. Thank you for the review.
I bought myself, my father, and my brother in law the toughbuilt scraper utility knife for Christmas this year. It’s a huge hit. I’m getting the 5 in 1 as well, I’m a handyman, and I like compressing my edc kit because my pants pockets are always stuffed.
I carry and use the fastback 6 in 1 daily for probably 2+ years.. i never knew before this video it had the extra blade storage! I also have the same issue you mentioned, i am a large man so unlocking the driver is like threading a needle to me. Great video and great info, thank you!
I'm a Facilities maintenance worker, I EDC a 6 in 1 Fastback 24/7,(Swiss Champ, Knipex 5" Cobra & Pliers wrench, Kline 1/4 -3/16 flip bit & 8' tape measure) keep one in my personal truck and one in my work van. I don't see anything in the others to change that. I take the pocket clips off immediately and use Ti coated blades to prevent rust, especially in the summer when I'm landscaping 3 to 4 days a week at 19 locations around the county. Regular utility blades rust fast when drenched in sweat.
@@NickDoesThings- I got my first one about 6 months ago, misplaced it, bought three more because I don't want to go without one in my tool pocket, found the first one, continue to EDC it, you can certainly tell it has been well used but still perfectly functional.
@@johnossendorf9979 right on. I am only on my second in about a year, lost the first one. no mechanical issues. Had another commenter say his the lock broke on his.
I'm in industrial maintenance , I've had the same fastback for over 2 years. Not the one with the driver. It's the best piece by far. Mines not even red anymore. I also carry Klien 7 in1 and kinipx😂
Good video!!! I had not seen the others! I LOVEEE THE TB 1 AND THE HART 1 HERE!! These 2 r my fav on here!! Def gonna be checking both of those out asap!!!! HART BTW WENT BACK TO THE DB AND REDESIGNED ALLLLLL THEIR SHIT B4 CMAS OF 23 THIS PAST YR!! AND THEY HAD A LOT OF THEIR TOOLS OUT ON DISPLAY AT CMAS!! AND I TELL U THEY HAVE LIKE MAJOR STEPPED THEIR SHIT UP!!! LIKE THEIR DRILLS NOW LOOKED GREAT! FELT GREAT!! NICE WEIGHT!! SUPER GREST CONTROL ON THE TIGGER!!!! LIKE SOME OG THE BEST TRIGGER CONTROL OF ANY!! AND THEIR MEASURING TAPE IS LIKE WOW!!! BEST STOP CONTROL AS U SLIDE OUT....ON THE MARKET!!! I MEAN IT IS TIGHT AND THICK AND TOUGH AND STRONG!!! LIKE U PULL IT STOPS AUTO AND IT HAS 0000 MOVE!!!! AND LT WAR! HAS ALL THE IN BET FRACTION MMs on the tape!! Just the BEST ONE IVE PICKED UP SEEN OR HAD IN MY HAND PERIOD!!! I AM LIKE MAJOR MAJOR IMPRESSED WITH MOST ALL OF HARTS NEW LINE OF SHIT!!!! AND THIS LITTLE KNIFE LOOKS GREAT AND LIKE IT'S MADE PRETTY DAAMNED GOOD!? AND FOR 10 BUCKS!! IT JUST LOOKS GOOD AND I THINK I WILL BE ADDING IT AND TB TO MY ATIRE!!😮😊😅❤🎉 AND LOWES IS HAVING SOME KICK ASS DEALS ON KOBALT AND SOME ON SKIL ETC... SO I BE CHECKING THEM OUT TO!! WM ALSO HAS ABOUT 4 GREAT KNIVES 2 FIXED 2 FOLDING IN THEIR CASE TO! GOT MY EYES ON THEM AS WELL!!!! DAMN!! ALLL THESE TOOLS AND NEW ONES AND SALES R GETTING ME ALLLL EXCITED!!!!😮😮😮😊😊😊😊😅😅😅🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for posting, Nick! The Hart bit storage holders look like copies of Gerbers bit holders on their earlier knives... Gerber chose a brittle plastic that would break readily. The Klein shorter bit holder looks like it allows for 2" bits to be used with the system, like magnetic nut drivers. That's a nice feature.
I can confirm that the Klein works better by taking out the bit holder and running a 2" bit. Less slop and still long enough to easily open. None of the nut drivers that I have will fit unfortunately. But it looks like one could do it if the driver were short enough. The width could be accommodated by the cutout for the finger pull. I think I will likely shoot a followup to this video in a few weeks. Thanks for your comment!
The Lennox knife used to be my favorite for a long time. That was until I got a job where I needed one with a screwdriver. So I started my search and ended up with the Toughbuilt one. It is heavy and a little big but functionality wise it's the best. Because of its size and weight and the rectangular shaped handle it works very well as a screwdriver. The Phillips bit is also very good. Because of this you get a lot of torque for driving fastners. Even more than a regular screwdriver.
I have been using the Lenox again this week. I have to say, it’s the most well built. If I were doing lots of heavy cutting, I would grab that one out of all of these. Thanks for the comment!
Great run down! I'm a welder/mouldmaker and I daily the fastback. It's not perfect but it's fast and effective. That Toughbuilt looks really, really enticing, though! The Hart and Milwaukee are owned by the same company, TTI. I would not be surprised if they were made in the same factory.
As I understand it TTI acquired Hart to sort of beef up their selection of hand tools. I am a shareholder and that was what they said back when they made the acquisition. But it seems like they pivoted from that to simply offer an entire line of tools for homeowners. I'm not sure about the production. I know Milwaukee does some manufacturing in Germany, and Mexico as well as China and Vietnam. But I am pretty sure Hart is only produced in China. Not sure if that means anything. I personally could care less about where a tool is made if it is good. And the fastback is good. Thanks for the comment!
I had the Milwaukee and would beat on it with a hammer to cut through shingles. The cast part that holds the knife broke but the metal on the backside held it together. Bought a new one but the broken still works like normal. It’s in a drawer somewhere.
ABSOLUTELY! I bought one for my wife but I got one too, I had NO idea it would feel so nice in the hand. It is incredible. The only issue that concerns me is the plastic bit holders with spring, it just worries me that they’ll break and I can’t use the one of 4 bits. I thought I was the only one, the weight of the knife, the shape, the fast back action, it’s just perfect. Well done. Also, the magnet on my Hart is actually very strong. I have a hard enough time pulling the bits out that I can’t Imagine the bits getting pulled out so maybe a small quality control issue?
At $10, the Hart is an "impulse buy" for regular people, but the Toughbuilt and Milwaukee would be "no brainers" for folks in the trades. Great review! You style is thorough and easy to listen to.
I was going to mention that Milwaukee and Hart are part of the same company. TTI bought them a few years back and decided to use them for their Wal-Mart exclusive line. I carry a "normal" Fastback daily, but I've considered the bit holder one. After this video, I'll probably consider the Toughbuilt too.
Right on man. Yeah, I sort of judged Hart by their power tools so I didn’t look on them as being desirable. But upon researching, it looks like TTI acquired them to flesh out their hand tool offerings. So it makes sense that Hart would have decent hand tools. Thanks for the comment.
All their power tools have a 3 year warranty and most hand tools have limited lifetime warranty. They are more than adequate for a homeowner/handyman that isn't in a profession that requires the tools to withstand constant abuse. I own a lot of their stuff but I always wait until it's on sale because you can catch great discounts if you're patient plus I get an extra 10% off because my significant other works for Walmart. 😉
Same impressions about that hart knife, very unique. I saw it, picked it up for a closer look and left it at the store. Would have bought it, if only i didn't already have like 7 other utility knives. Good to see it's functions up close, thanks.
Same! But my curiosity got the best of me. Plus I thought it would be good for this video because I am sure there are a lot more guys like us who saw it and wondered.
Hart is made by TTI just like Milwaukee, Ridgid, and Ryobi. All their power tools have a 3 year warranty and most hand tools have limited lifetime warranty. They are more than adequate for a homeowner/handyman that isn't in a profession that requires the tools to withstand constant abuse. I own a lot of their stuff but I always wait until it's on sale because you can catch great discounts if you're patient plus I get an extra 10% off because my significant other works for Walmart. 😉
Well done, one for the algorithm. I bought the Milwaukee with bit driver that holds one blade, and it came in a 2 pack with a basic model utility knife for $10, so I bought a few packs as a backup. I'm enjoying it. I might try that Toughbuilt at some point too. Great content.
I seem to just want all of these. I just picked up a Klein without a driver and love it. I love that the notch is exposed and you can use it without opening the blade. I also have to get that Lenox.. it stands out and if im breaking down boxes it seems like that will be very comfortable .
You are a lot like me! haha! I have tons of these things. If you are considering the Lenox, you might check out their other offering in this category. The Lenox LX250. I was not able to get a hold of one for the making of this video but they look awesome. They actually have a bit driver with storage in the handle to hold two bits. The Lenox stuff is super well made. Cheers!
@@NickDoesThings- i used to have one of those. i absolutely loved that knife. it didnt have a button to flip it open but it could be loosened to a point that it easily flipped out without compromising the stability. lost it a while back and tried buying another off ebay and ended up with a knock off which wasnt worth the 20 i spent on it. so if you go that route keep an eye out for that.
I have 3 MKE Fastback knives, the 1505 you showed, plus a 1500 (compact) and 1501. Love them all, but the 1505 is my favorite. Mine is the original model with wire retainer on the bit holder rather than the ball retainer on the one you showed.
Cool comparison! Like you, I use a utility knife constantly at work. Cutting boxes, pallet strapping, plastic wrap, burlap, etc. I edc the fastback, but we’ve got a bunch of random ones laying around at all times. The Lenox gold and a similar husky version, an old fixed blade Stanley, and an assortment of cheap Amazon ones. The Milwaukee is a dream. I’m constantly taking it in and out of my pocket and it’s just super quick and handy. I also use the driver a good bit and it’s perfectly adequate-I actually tend to one hand close it as well. I’ve really strongly considered getting the toughbuilt as I have some other stuff from them I really like. I think it’s just a bit too big for me to enjoy carrying, but seeing your comparison makes me want to go grab one to throw in the home tool bag or just have laying around. Thanks man!
Right on man! I'm glad you found some value in this video. I also tend to pile up utility knives. Especially at work. And depending on the job, there is something to be said to having a nice solid, robust, knife. I probably would not use the fastback for laying carpet. But as an EDC its unbeatable...so far. Thanks for the comment!
I’ve owned a fastback for a while now, didn’t even notice the blade storage, and I don’t do anything enough drywall work to notice the tape hooking in there blade groove. Thanks for the tips!
Im a commercial drywaller and razor knifes are my main method of cutting to i feel like i can add some good insight after my hundreds of thousands of cuts with these things. No these aren’t my go to for most jobs, i use full sized razors mostly of the time. But there is always one of these in my pocket and they get used a lot when im doing smaller work or repairs so they get a lot of use still. The fast back was my best friend for years, nothing was even close. Until i got the klein. Its honestly pretty similar but i love the the driver design better but the main thing for me was the way it locks at an angle because that is crucial for a job like mine to not wear my wrist out on all these cuts. Definitely dethroned the fast back in my book
@@jimboneutron8399 thanks for weighing in! That is definitely a good argument for the Klein. I regret that I didn’t include that locking feature in my original post. I just didn’t know about it at that time. I pinned it in the top comment but more should have been said. Personally I don’t get the bit holder thing. I think the whole setup is a bit too fidgety. And anytime I have my driver I always have all my bits in the same case as the driver so I’m never at a place where I need a little bit holder. That said, a feature is a feature and if it is useful to someone then that settles it. Personally don’t think the trade off with the mechanical slop is worth it. I use my knife as a hand driver mostly and the slop made it a worse experience than the well designed driver in the fast back. I’m thinking about another video to compliment this one on full sized razors. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
@ i don’t remember the brand but in the flooring section of home depot they have one with a fat roundish handle and a curved design. For what i do thats the best option for full size. Your argument about the bit is completely valid. I just like it because i have an extra screw gun bit on me at all times and i use a screw gun all day long and they do get lost. If im actually driving a screw with my knife i take the driver bit off and put it in the short driver. I do it for outlet covers and stuff like that. Edit: its called Big Fatso Multipurpose Utility Knife at Home Depot. Literally the most comfortable knife to use for a job that has heavy razor use like drywall. Its in the flooring section so no one thinks of it.
I want to say thank you for this. If I wouldn't have seen this I would have just jumped on this Klein blade. Not because of brand loyalty because it's orange AND a good brand name. However I would have been upset with that quality especially since my daily is the same Fastback you have in the video. I tried a similar style Husky brand without a driver. It was poorly weighted where the handle was too light and upon flipping open you could feel the knife wanting to jump out of your hand. Anyway I appreciate you saving me the money of finding out the Klein is trash as I'm the guy who would go I could use that extension for my drill I use my bit out of my Fastback in my drill all the time.
Right on man! I’m glad I could help you decide. Unfortunately I DID jump on the Klein. I figured since they were so closely copying the fastback, that they just have improved it in some way. But sadly they did not. That said, if you regularly use the bit from your fastback in your drill then you probably would find the Klein bit holder useful. Also you can remove the bit holder all together and put in a two inch bit like we all use in our drills. For me, when I use the driver in my edc it is because I don’t have my drill handy, so the bit holder doesn’t make sense for my usage. Also I prefer to have the double sided bit like the fastback and toughbuilt. Thanks for the comment!
I work at a very busy restaurant. We are always opening boxes and there are endless #2 Phillips that need tightening everywhere. The fastback is perfect. Especially the easy one hand open and close knife. It’s dangerous to leave an open knife lying around.
My Milwaukee lock broke, I usually just fidget with it all day opening and closing it all day and ig it finally gave out but got a brand new one and still happy with it
I'm waiting for the Toughbuilt 5 in 1 Electricians Knife to get delivered. I was carrying a Workpro Stainless folding utility knife which was great. I switched to the Milwaukee Fastback 6 in 1 because I wanted a bit driver in addition to the knife. The larger size is not a problem. I'm hoping the Toughbuilt carry's well for EDC, but I'm concerned it may just be a bit too big. The Hart knife looks interesting but not rugged. Thanks for making this vdeo!
Right on man! The size of the toughbuilt does detract from it a small amount. I find that some days I don't really realize i have it on me but other days I do feel it down there. I think it has to do with the type of pants pockets I am wearing and just what I am doing in the day.
I'm a Lowe's guy and a bit of a Klein fanboy so I picked up the same Klein one the other day and have been EDCing it. My housemate has the Milwaukee and I hate to admit it but it's definitely the better design, I wish I had a flathead instead of the removable adapter (particularly weird when you think about how common flatheads are in Klein's bread and butter electrical market) and, while the 45 degree lock is cool in theory, I find it kinda hard to reliably flick past it into the full straight position. The bottle opener and blade storage would've been nice too.
Same and same. Yeah, you would think that the flathead would have been the first choice for Klein. To be honest, I far prefer the Klein brand over Milwaukee. This knife is one of only two Milwaukee tools I cary. But I have a bunch of Klein stuff that I love. Its hard for me to admit how well M did with their fastback line! 😅 If I had never used the fastback, I probably would not have been so hard on the Klein in the video. But because it was such a similar product, the shortcomings were just more obvious when using both. PS I definitely use that bottle opener a little more often than I probably should!
The Milwaukee is fine for light use, but I would not bother with it if I were using a utility knife often, it is a light weight/light use tool. I carry one in my car, decent enough for a backup and the bit driver may come in handy.
True, there are certain jobs that require a more robust utility knife. I would not lay carpet with the fastback. But as an every day pocket carry, its hard to beat.
Great job! I carried the fastback for a couple of years and I love it. I bought the Toughbuilt a couple months ago mainly because of the pry bar feature, it is my favorite now! I have big hands so I do like the larger frame,it’s definitely more comfortable for extended use. The Fastback fits my various EDC pouches I wear, but the Toughbuilt does not. I may just carry a separate pry bar and the Fastback for EDC and the Toughbuilt for work. Still trying to figure that out. I agree with your thoughts on the Lenox and Klein, I love both of those tool lines and have spent more money than I care to remember on both of them in the last 40 years. But they need to redesign these knives. Excellent Review please keep it up, Thanks!
The pry bar is a winner! Every time I'm not carrying the toughbuilt, I end up needing that pry bar! I have even tried using the lanyard point to pry with.🤣
@@jnoah7537 I use it all the time on paint and stain cans, which I do a lot of. I used it the other day on an interior panel on my SUV when I was installing a camera. Other uses are pretty much anything you might try to use your fingernails on or the blade of your pocket knife. This saves your blade and your nails, haha. But you are right, it is fairly light duty, you cant use it to get a bunch of leverage on things.
Call me Milwaukee fanboy but I just use the flathead as my prybar when needed 🤷🏻♂️. Helped my father with a painting job this weekend, and it held its own with all paint cans and I've even used to pry off outlet plates and other things stuck to drywall.
Kershaw makes a standard blade knife obviously the point of this video was to highlight utility razor blade stlyes. But the Kershaw “select fire” has a bit storage mechanism identical to that Hart. But it has a driver like the Klein with a magnet. I really like that Kershaw a lot. I just replace the bits with my most used Milwaukee bits. Anyways great video sir!
Subscribed. Love my Milwaukee 1901, but considering this Fastback as well. Carrying the 1901 and the Leatherman Wave give me just about everything I need for pocket tools, but would be nice to leave the Wave at home sometimes.
Yeah, there is a line when it comes to multi tools. As soon as I start thinking about all the things I can carry in my pockets I quickly end up with too much. It’s hard to pare down from a multitool without feeling naked. lol. I ended up keeping my multitool in my backpack, that way I have it nearby if I need it. Some guys might leave it in their glove box. That said, if it doesn’t bother you to carry it, why change? For me, 90% of what I use my multitool for is cutting, screwdriver, and bottle opener of course. So I rarely feel I am missing out with the fastback. All depends on what you do from day to day. Cheers!
I have the hart one and they learned from gerber because the plastic for the bit holders are a nylon based so thin but won't crack readily they will deform before breaking unlike the more brittle plastic. The spring will be the weak spot but no problems so far.
I carry and use the Milwaukee, and I like everything about it *EXCEPT* it feels like it opens too far. I feel like it should stop when the "blade" part is more in line with the handle, not a few degrees past it.
24:24 The Hart is the same tool as Milwaukee it’s just the brand is meant for cheaper pricing and it’s commissioned by Walmart the manufacture is TTI. All HART tools are Milwaukee tools it’s just name differently just for Walmart.
Yeah, I know TTI acquired heart a few years ago to fill out their hand-tool line. But just because the same conglomerate owns multiple brands, doesn't mean the brands are the same. Different companies with different engineers and designers using different materials to different tolerances, manufactured in different places (most typically). Half the power tools at HD are TTI, but they are still different brands whose differences are more than the color of plastic. Although, sometimes you do find some that are just a rebrand of the same product. Thats always funny. Red must be an expensive color! 🤣
Fun fact if you use the bit extension from the Klein on the ToughBuilt, the ToughBuilt's magnet comes out with it, it is not glued in, just a knit pick I noticed.
I immediately tried this. lol. Mine didn't come out quite so easily but I was able to get it out. So yeah, not glued in. Or at least not very well. Good eye!
I think klein has the removable bit holder, so you could run your own 2" bit in its place. That's the only thing I can come up with as to why. It's hard to tell from the video if a 2" bit would fit. But I'd love to know. Get back to me on that.
Affirmative. Standard 2" bits fit just fine, with a little room to spare. And there is slightly less wobble when ran that way. The included bit holder seems to have very poor tolerances and accounts for much of the looseness. Also my JIS bits fit even tighter than standard American 2" bits.
weight and size are of the utmost importance to me. if i JUST want a knife, im going to be using the small work-pro that takes up NO space, so the main part of this is the screwdriver. that said, 3 of them loose off the bat. i have been edc-ing the fastback for a few years and have only one minor complaint - ease of removing the spare blade. i have to say, watching the toughbuilt, the whole time i was just thinking "its too big" and then you touched on that at the end, but that pry-bar though.... ill probably end up picking one up and giving it a try. i dont know if the prybar is going to make up for the real estate it takes up, but its worth a go. one thing about the hart, i like nearly nothing about the design, other than 4 bits. i think 2 flat and 2 philips is a waste, that knife would probably be a hell of a lot better with just 1 #2 phillips, 1/4" flat, and on the other side a t-20 and t-25. they are much more needed in a pinch than a SECOND phillips ever is.
Well said! One can ever go wrong with the fastback. When I carry it, after carrying the Toughbuilt, I do sometimes really miss that pry bar. That said I really miss the bottle opener on the fastback, especially after work! haha I like the 4 bit capacity on the heart, but the actual driver function is wanting. You have to have the whole knife right up on whatever you are screwing so it wont work in areas where you need any reach. That said, the 4 bit capacity is nice. I am like you, I customized the bits to better reflect the fasteners I run into day to day.
I bought the Klein because the pocket clip on the Milwaukee Fastback is wire and I've bent them out of shape several times. The Klein is solid metal. I'll let you know if I break it
Right on. Yeah I like that clip on the Klein. It is the same clip that is on my workpro knives. I haven't had an issue with my the fastback clip yet, but I could see that happening. Especially if a guy is crawling around in tight spaces like a plumber or electrician.
@@NickDoesThings- I drive tri dump for a paving company and labor. I had a Milwaukee Fastback and the pocket clip got caught on my steering wheel getting in and out of the truck. It got bent several times. The Klein hasn't done that yet.
i have both the toughbuilt and the fast back. both are great tools. I just bring with me one honestly just depending on the pants im wearing lol. the toughbuilt is bigger and a little heavier than the fastback.
I carry the Milwaukee 6 and 1 fastback for quite some time and the only gripe ever had with it was when you would shut it. The utility knife blade would slam into the bit holder in the back because there is a gap where the blade can go through and the very back of the knife and then you would have a dull spot on your blade. So then I went to the Milwaukee compact fastback
huh! I haven't heard that one yet. I am looking at mine right now and I can see how that would be a possibility. However, mine looks like there is plenty of clearance between the bit holder and the blade. Perhaps after it wears out a bit that starts to happen. Did this happen on multiple of yours? Or could you possibly have had a defective one? Also, apparently there are a few generations of these. Do you happen to know what gen you were carrying? Maybe its something they fixed? Now I am going to obsess over this and take mine apart. haha!
Thank you for this video! If you break down boxes, how does it not bother you that you don't get an entirely new blade when you flip it around on the Milwaukee? It ruins the whole knife for me. I will definitely be getting the toughbuilt for my collection
That is a nice feature. For some stupid reason, when I shot this video I did not realize that. I had just been flicking it open so I didn't catch it. I pinned a comment about it when I discovered it. It is a useful feature of the Klein for sure!
Very nice video comparing these. Fastback is my top pick as well. I disagree that its a 2 hand close since i have always been able to close mine with 1 hand. that tough built is a solid tool and i love the little pry bar. its too bad that is so much bulkier though. i dislike having it in my pockets. The klein is such a joke and hard copy. i really dont see anyone using it besides YTubers trying to be edgy.
I probably miscommunicated that one. I only meant that the driver on the Milwaukee is not flip open and close. I feel the same way you do for the most part. Thanks for commenting!
Definitely the Fastback is my favorite. Though I haven't carried the others, I can say I LOVE the fastback. Lost my first and replaced it as soon as HD did their combo pack for black Friday that also comes with the compact fastback. My only "issue" is that there isn't a reversible pocket clip. Truly a tradesman staple that everyone in the trades should have in their pocket.
ooof! forget that! I am not sure why, but for some reason the price on those knives fluctuates all over the place. But just go grab one at Home Depot or Ace Hardware. I never see them for over $16. The one that is in this video came in a 2 pack for $20 on a deal.
Milwaukee has the best design for now, but their bit holder is the weak point and the bits are proprietary. Klein is a close second, but the pocket clip catches on seats, you don't get a two sided bit, and no bottle opener. (I do like the impact driver because sometimes my drill might be missing one and I can just borrow it from the knife in my pocket.)
Do you think the bit holder on the Milwaukee is the weak point because of the fact that the bits are proprietary? Or is there another reason you don't like the bit holder? I used to have a fastback that did not have a ball detent. But the one I cary now does have a ball. Therefore it has no problem accepting different bits. Although, I haven't tried any other double sided bits because I don't have any. But I suspect it would work just fine for them.
@@NickDoesThings- I've had the screw that keeps the bit holder there come out, I've had the old-style internal band fall out and lost the bit, and the new-style external band came off on the first day with my newest one. It just isn't a good design and the fact that no ordinary bits fit it is a hassle too.
@@NathanBake Dang bro, you have had some bad luck with these things! Or maybe I have just had good luck! I have not experienced failure. I have had multiple, not because they have malfunctioned, but because I lost them, then found them again after I purchased a replacement. There is definitely room for improvement thought. I personally would like to see the pivot point be bulked up, I am always nervous I am going to break it.
I like Milwaukee but their bits suck. I use wiha best bits ive ever found. Ive tried most brand names even snap-on, matco,dewalt an many more i can't remember (or more likely can't spell) lol. what bits do you find very useful. I highly recommend wiha. I changed to them on a 3 level deck build. I was using other brand bits like 5 a day. Bought wiha used 3 bits for the rest of the job and that was because i lost 2 bits on a extention with a broken magnet.
I really like the Klein, i gave 9.99 for it. I gotta laugh at you saying the gimping is too aggressive. They sell a model with blade storage. I like the removeable 1/4" driver. That bit driver is geared towards electritians because we use the shit out of ¼" drivers at odd times. 😆
Thats a great question. Unfortunately I don't have one to try out. I think, because it is flat, having a strong magnet would be important. The fastback uses a retention device so it doesn't have a strong mag. If you take the bit driver out of the Klein and use your bit insert in ints place, you would have a bag but it is pretty shallow. The Toughbuilt doesn't have a very strong mag, however, the insert goes down much deeper than the other drivers so It would probably give the most surface area contact for your flat insert. I would say Klean, or Toughbuilt. I wish I could say more but that is just a guess.
I just got the fast back, the newer model with the metal ball and I can't get the blade storage to work, the liner lock seems kinda loose and won't keep the blade in, just falls out, am I doing something wrong or the quality control on the newer models just aren't that good?
Klein now makes a lot of stuff in China. It is likely marketed toward electricians. The impact rated stuff is likely because everything is becoming impact rated. Why make 2 kinds? Also, it is replaceable if you can grab it off the shelf if you lose or break it. The Hart one is the same no name design that you can get at Tractor Supply every now and again in the bargain bin.
Oh yeah, definitely made in overseas. Though, despite the fact that Klein is a brand geared more towards electricians, the only tool in this video that one of the companies specifically says is for electricians is the Toughbuilt. It's called the "Electricians 5-in-1." I really think the Klein is going after some of the marketshare of the Fastback. As to the bit holder theory, good paint, companies should probably just go with all impact rated stuff these days. However it might not show from the video, but that bit driver is very small. I have never seen another one that small. So it would be hard to replace. And if you put a standard bit holder in it, it is too long and wont close when carrying a bit. I am going to do a follow up to this video in a few weeks discussing this stuff a bit more and brining up some of the comments. Thanks for weighing in. Curious if you have any other thoughts?
Question what kind of impact driver or even bit holder do you think that that toughbuilt two-sided bit is it going to fit in. I don't think that that was something that they marketed it as being able to do like the klien which clearly that was a poor design. The toughbuilt products are awesome
Oh, that was just speculation based off the odd shape of the driver. I have no clue if it is impact rated. Impact bits just often have a thinner torsion zone. The bit in the toughbuilt put me in the mind of that. Just thinking out loud tbh! Haha
@@NickDoesThings- and I agree that it may have a torsion zone but it's obviously not made for a impact driver you can't put that in a quarter inch collet and I don't think you could put it in an impact bit holder either cuz I don't think they make one deep enough. Js
@@ryanchristopher2207 oh no, it certainly wouldn’t lock into any American collet. But it does go into certain bit holders. I have a Wiha and a Hazet bit holder that bits like this work well in. Oddly enough, this conversation had me wondering so I tried it in my MIJ Makita impact driver it locked in fine. They are much deeper. Not that I would use it that way. Just had me curious because that imported driver always swallows bits deeper than my made in China, American model, and has slop. I started importing vessel bits for my MIJ one. I may do a video on that tool soon. Thanks for the comments man!
the Lenox mechanism is just like my Irwin and I do not like it. The Fiskars Pro is amazing piece but has no screw driver, still i use a no name knife which is a twin blade too. But, hey. The Milwaukee is on my bucket list.
Sure thing man! You can just google “Toughbuilt 5-in-1 electricians utility knife” and you should pull it up easily. Although it looks as like it may only be available at Lowe’s.
I purchased it at lowes, but unfortunately they no longer seem to cary it. It tought to find right now, my guess is toughbuilt are sort of in between contracts for retail stores. Google the following key words and you should be able to find it somewhere online: toughbuilt, 5-in-1, electricians knife, multitool, pry bar
I purchased mine from Lowes. But the last time I looked for this knife, it was no longer there. I have not looked into the specifics but I noticed that Lowes pulled way way back on their Toughbuilt offerings in 2024. I haver even seen Toughbuilt oddly show up in Harbor Freight...wild! I don't know what is happening there. You can still find it online id different places under different names. Google "Toughbuilt Electricians 5 in 1." Maybe tag "pry bar" and "folding knife" in the search. You should find it that way.
I think you mean shorter reach. If they wanted longer reach, they could have built it longer like other brands, instead of using the gimpy little cheap bit holder in the mix. But removing the bit holder does allow for something shorter if you need. Which is a good feature. Wish they would have done it better.
I know, I discovered that the day after I uploaded the video. I did include that information in my pinned comment. I think I’m going to do a second video in a few weeks. Good eye! And thanks for the comment.
Addendum: The Klein actually DOES lock in the halfway open position. I did not realize that because in normal operation (flipping it out) it flips right past the halfway lock. But upon further usage I discovered that it does actually lock in that position giving it one feature that the other drivers do not have (unless you count the Lenox's strong detent in that position.)
Lenox does have one that does have a proper ¼” bit driver that is centered, and also holds 2 spare blades in the back. Had it for years. It’s thiccc tho and the fastback feels way better.
@ yeah, I saw that one after making this video. I wish I had known about it sooner. But I never see it in stores. Thanks for the comment!
Milwaukee 6in1 Fastback is my favorite. Milwaukee has now replaced the wire retention ring in the 1/4" bit holder with a ball bearing type retainer. Spec ops makes a utility knife that's really thick, 2 blade storage, no driver but has a window/skull crusher point on the butt end that is just an extension of the aluminum body, not carbide or tungsten. I've carried the Spec ops quite a bit along with a small keychain prytool. But i always come back using the Milwaukee. i put a serrated blade in the Milwaukee for cutting cordage. Thank you for the review.
I bought myself, my father, and my brother in law the toughbuilt scraper utility knife for Christmas this year. It’s a huge hit. I’m getting the 5 in 1 as well, I’m a handyman, and I like compressing my edc kit because my pants pockets are always stuffed.
I carry and use the fastback 6 in 1 daily for probably 2+ years.. i never knew before this video it had the extra blade storage! I also have the same issue you mentioned, i am a large man so unlocking the driver is like threading a needle to me. Great video and great info, thank you!
Make it easier
I'm a Facilities maintenance worker, I EDC a 6 in 1 Fastback 24/7,(Swiss Champ, Knipex 5" Cobra & Pliers wrench, Kline 1/4 -3/16 flip bit & 8' tape measure) keep one in my personal truck and one in my work van. I don't see anything in the others to change that. I take the pocket clips off immediately and use Ti coated blades to prevent rust, especially in the summer when I'm landscaping 3 to 4 days a week at 19 locations around the county. Regular utility blades rust fast when drenched in sweat.
Sounds like you put the fastback through its paces. Question, how often do you replace them, if ever?
@@NickDoesThings- I got my first one about 6 months ago, misplaced it, bought three more because I don't want to go without one in my tool pocket, found the first one, continue to EDC it, you can certainly tell it has been well used but still perfectly functional.
@@johnossendorf9979 right on. I am only on my second in about a year, lost the first one. no mechanical issues. Had another commenter say his the lock broke on his.
I'm in industrial maintenance , I've had the same fastback for over 2 years. Not the one with the driver. It's the best piece by far. Mines not even red anymore. I also carry Klien 7 in1 and kinipx😂
@@WilliamBrown-bg7vm Great choices!
Good video!!! I had not seen the others! I LOVEEE THE TB 1 AND THE HART 1 HERE!! These 2 r my fav on here!! Def gonna be checking both of those out asap!!!!
HART BTW WENT BACK TO THE DB AND REDESIGNED ALLLLLL THEIR SHIT B4 CMAS OF 23 THIS PAST YR!! AND THEY HAD A LOT OF THEIR TOOLS OUT ON DISPLAY AT CMAS!! AND I TELL U THEY HAVE LIKE MAJOR STEPPED THEIR SHIT UP!!!
LIKE THEIR DRILLS NOW LOOKED GREAT! FELT GREAT!! NICE WEIGHT!! SUPER GREST CONTROL ON THE TIGGER!!!! LIKE SOME OG THE BEST TRIGGER CONTROL OF ANY!!
AND THEIR MEASURING TAPE IS LIKE WOW!!! BEST STOP CONTROL AS U SLIDE OUT....ON THE MARKET!!! I MEAN IT IS TIGHT AND THICK AND TOUGH AND STRONG!!! LIKE U PULL IT STOPS AUTO AND IT HAS 0000 MOVE!!!! AND LT WAR! HAS ALL THE IN BET FRACTION MMs on the tape!! Just the BEST ONE IVE PICKED UP SEEN OR HAD IN MY HAND PERIOD!!!
I AM LIKE MAJOR MAJOR IMPRESSED WITH MOST ALL OF HARTS NEW LINE OF SHIT!!!! AND THIS LITTLE KNIFE LOOKS GREAT AND LIKE IT'S MADE PRETTY DAAMNED GOOD!? AND FOR 10 BUCKS!! IT JUST LOOKS GOOD AND I THINK I WILL BE ADDING IT AND TB TO MY ATIRE!!😮😊😅❤🎉
AND LOWES IS HAVING SOME KICK ASS DEALS ON KOBALT AND SOME ON SKIL ETC... SO I BE CHECKING THEM OUT TO!!
WM ALSO HAS ABOUT 4 GREAT KNIVES 2 FIXED 2 FOLDING IN THEIR CASE TO! GOT MY EYES ON THEM AS WELL!!!!
DAMN!! ALLL THESE TOOLS AND NEW ONES AND SALES R GETTING ME ALLLL EXCITED!!!!😮😮😮😊😊😊😊😅😅😅🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for posting, Nick!
The Hart bit storage holders look like copies of Gerbers bit holders on their earlier knives... Gerber chose a brittle plastic that would break readily.
The Klein shorter bit holder looks like it allows for 2" bits to be used with the system, like magnetic nut drivers. That's a nice feature.
I can confirm that the Klein works better by taking out the bit holder and running a 2" bit. Less slop and still long enough to easily open. None of the nut drivers that I have will fit unfortunately. But it looks like one could do it if the driver were short enough. The width could be accommodated by the cutout for the finger pull. I think I will likely shoot a followup to this video in a few weeks.
Thanks for your comment!
The Lennox knife used to be my favorite for a long time. That was until I got a job where I needed one with a screwdriver. So I started my search and ended up with the Toughbuilt one. It is heavy and a little big but functionality wise it's the best. Because of its size and weight and the rectangular shaped handle it works very well as a screwdriver. The Phillips bit is also very good. Because of this you get a lot of torque for driving fastners. Even more than a regular screwdriver.
I have been using the Lenox again this week. I have to say, it’s the most well built. If I were doing lots of heavy cutting, I would grab that one out of all of these.
Thanks for the comment!
Great run down! I'm a welder/mouldmaker and I daily the fastback. It's not perfect but it's fast and effective. That Toughbuilt looks really, really enticing, though!
The Hart and Milwaukee are owned by the same company, TTI. I would not be surprised if they were made in the same factory.
As I understand it TTI acquired Hart to sort of beef up their selection of hand tools. I am a shareholder and that was what they said back when they made the acquisition. But it seems like they pivoted from that to simply offer an entire line of tools for homeowners. I'm not sure about the production. I know Milwaukee does some manufacturing in Germany, and Mexico as well as China and Vietnam. But I am pretty sure Hart is only produced in China. Not sure if that means anything.
I personally could care less about where a tool is made if it is good. And the fastback is good. Thanks for the comment!
You’ll break the tip on the Milwaukee before you break the knife itself
I had the Milwaukee and would beat on it with a hammer to cut through shingles. The cast part that holds the knife broke but the metal on the backside held it together. Bought a new one but the broken still works like normal. It’s in a drawer somewhere.
Any knife that would break before the blade is a worthless piece of shit I would sure hope the tip would break first
ABSOLUTELY! I bought one for my wife but I got one too, I had NO idea it would feel so nice in the hand. It is incredible. The only issue that concerns me is the plastic bit holders with spring, it just worries me that they’ll break and I can’t use the one of 4 bits. I thought I was the only one, the weight of the knife, the shape, the fast back action, it’s just perfect. Well done. Also, the magnet on my Hart is actually very strong. I have a hard enough time pulling the bits out that I can’t Imagine the bits getting pulled out so maybe a small quality control issue?
Couldn't have said it better myself!
At $10, the Hart is an "impulse buy" for regular people, but the Toughbuilt and Milwaukee would be "no brainers" for folks in the trades. Great review! You style is thorough and easy to listen to.
You'll never guess it...the Hart broke. Guess what broke? exactly as I predicted. Cheers!
I was going to mention that Milwaukee and Hart are part of the same company. TTI bought them a few years back and decided to use them for their Wal-Mart exclusive line. I carry a "normal" Fastback daily, but I've considered the bit holder one. After this video, I'll probably consider the Toughbuilt too.
Right on man. Yeah, I sort of judged Hart by their power tools so I didn’t look on them as being desirable. But upon researching, it looks like TTI acquired them to flesh out their hand tool offerings. So it makes sense that Hart would have decent hand tools. Thanks for the comment.
@@NickDoesThings- Yeah, their power tools are basically Ryobi recolors, but with slide pack batteries instead of the top post.
All their power tools have a 3 year warranty and most hand tools have limited lifetime warranty. They are more than adequate for a homeowner/handyman that isn't in a profession that requires the tools to withstand constant abuse.
I own a lot of their stuff but I always wait until it's on sale because you can catch great discounts if you're patient plus I get an extra 10% off because my significant other works for Walmart. 😉
Same impressions about that hart knife, very unique. I saw it, picked it up for a closer look and left it at the store. Would have bought it, if only i didn't already have like 7 other utility knives. Good to see it's functions up close, thanks.
Same! But my curiosity got the best of me. Plus I thought it would be good for this video because I am sure there are a lot more guys like us who saw it and wondered.
Hart is made by TTI just like Milwaukee, Ridgid, and Ryobi. All their power tools have a 3 year warranty and most hand tools have limited lifetime warranty. They are more than adequate for a homeowner/handyman that isn't in a profession that requires the tools to withstand constant abuse.
I own a lot of their stuff but I always wait until it's on sale because you can catch great discounts if you're patient plus I get an extra 10% off because my significant other works for Walmart. 😉
@@GrabLifeByDaPoosy Right on man! Can't beat a discount!
Well done, one for the algorithm. I bought the Milwaukee with bit driver that holds one blade, and it came in a 2 pack with a basic model utility knife for $10, so I bought a few packs as a backup. I'm enjoying it. I might try that Toughbuilt at some point too. Great content.
I seem to just want all of these. I just picked up a Klein without a driver and love it. I love that the notch is exposed and you can use it without opening the blade. I also have to get that Lenox.. it stands out and if im breaking down boxes it seems like that will be very comfortable .
You are a lot like me! haha! I have tons of these things. If you are considering the Lenox, you might check out their other offering in this category. The Lenox LX250. I was not able to get a hold of one for the making of this video but they look awesome. They actually have a bit driver with storage in the handle to hold two bits. The Lenox stuff is super well made.
Cheers!
That Hart is like the Kershaw Selectfire pocket knife. I love the bit storage on that thing.
Nice! I have been on the lookout for a standard knife with built in driver. A few good options out there.
@@NickDoesThings- i used to have one of those. i absolutely loved that knife. it didnt have a button to flip it open but it could be loosened to a point that it easily flipped out without compromising the stability. lost it a while back and tried buying another off ebay and ended up with a knock off which wasnt worth the 20 i spent on it. so if you go that route keep an eye out for that.
I have 3 MKE Fastback knives, the 1505 you showed, plus a 1500 (compact) and 1501. Love them all, but the 1505 is my favorite. Mine is the original model with wire retainer on the bit holder rather than the ball retainer on the one you showed.
Cool comparison! Like you, I use a utility knife constantly at work. Cutting boxes, pallet strapping, plastic wrap, burlap, etc. I edc the fastback, but we’ve got a bunch of random ones laying around at all times. The Lenox gold and a similar husky version, an old fixed blade Stanley, and an assortment of cheap Amazon ones. The Milwaukee is a dream. I’m constantly taking it in and out of my pocket and it’s just super quick and handy. I also use the driver a good bit and it’s perfectly adequate-I actually tend to one hand close it as well. I’ve really strongly considered getting the toughbuilt as I have some other stuff from them I really like. I think it’s just a bit too big for me to enjoy carrying, but seeing your comparison makes me want to go grab one to throw in the home tool bag or just have laying around. Thanks man!
Right on man! I'm glad you found some value in this video. I also tend to pile up utility knives. Especially at work. And depending on the job, there is something to be said to having a nice solid, robust, knife. I probably would not use the fastback for laying carpet. But as an EDC its unbeatable...so far. Thanks for the comment!
I’ve owned a fastback for a while now, didn’t even notice the blade storage, and I don’t do anything enough drywall work to notice the tape hooking in there blade groove. Thanks for the tips!
Got the Milwaukee fastback and love it. I use it daily
Welcome to the club! You are in great company my friend!
Im a commercial drywaller and razor knifes are my main method of cutting to i feel like i can add some good insight after my hundreds of thousands of cuts with these things. No these aren’t my go to for most jobs, i use full sized razors mostly of the time. But there is always one of these in my pocket and they get used a lot when im doing smaller work or repairs so they get a lot of use still. The fast back was my best friend for years, nothing was even close. Until i got the klein. Its honestly pretty similar but i love the the driver design better but the main thing for me was the way it locks at an angle because that is crucial for a job like mine to not wear my wrist out on all these cuts. Definitely dethroned the fast back in my book
@@jimboneutron8399 thanks for weighing in! That is definitely a good argument for the Klein. I regret that I didn’t include that locking feature in my original post. I just didn’t know about it at that time. I pinned it in the top comment but more should have been said.
Personally I don’t get the bit holder thing. I think the whole setup is a bit too fidgety. And anytime I have my driver I always have all my bits in the same case as the driver so I’m never at a place where I need a little bit holder. That said, a feature is a feature and if it is useful to someone then that settles it. Personally don’t think the trade off with the mechanical slop is worth it. I use my knife as a hand driver mostly and the slop made it a worse experience than the well designed driver in the fast back.
I’m thinking about another video to compliment this one on full sized razors. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
@ i don’t remember the brand but in the flooring section of home depot they have one with a fat roundish handle and a curved design. For what i do thats the best option for full size.
Your argument about the bit is completely valid. I just like it because i have an extra screw gun bit on me at all times and i use a screw gun all day long and they do get lost. If im actually driving a screw with my knife i take the driver bit off and put it in the short driver. I do it for outlet covers and stuff like that.
Edit: its called Big Fatso Multipurpose Utility Knife at Home Depot. Literally the most comfortable knife to use for a job that has heavy razor use like drywall. Its in the flooring section so no one thinks of it.
I want to say thank you for this. If I wouldn't have seen this I would have just jumped on this Klein blade. Not because of brand loyalty because it's orange AND a good brand name. However I would have been upset with that quality especially since my daily is the same Fastback you have in the video. I tried a similar style Husky brand without a driver. It was poorly weighted where the handle was too light and upon flipping open you could feel the knife wanting to jump out of your hand. Anyway I appreciate you saving me the money of finding out the Klein is trash as I'm the guy who would go I could use that extension for my drill I use my bit out of my Fastback in my drill all the time.
Right on man! I’m glad I could help you decide. Unfortunately I DID jump on the Klein. I figured since they were so closely copying the fastback, that they just have improved it in some way. But sadly they did not. That said, if you regularly use the bit from your fastback in your drill then you probably would find the Klein bit holder useful. Also you can remove the bit holder all together and put in a two inch bit like we all use in our drills. For me, when I use the driver in my edc it is because I don’t have my drill handy, so the bit holder doesn’t make sense for my usage. Also I prefer to have the double sided bit like the fastback and toughbuilt. Thanks for the comment!
I work at a very busy restaurant. We are always opening boxes and there are endless #2 Phillips that need tightening everywhere. The fastback is perfect. Especially the easy one hand open and close knife. It’s dangerous to leave an open knife lying around.
Allow me to say that I am Milwaukee fan. I am happy with 1505. Thanks for the comparison
My Milwaukee lock broke, I usually just fidget with it all day opening and closing it all day and ig it finally gave out but got a brand new one and still happy with it
I fidget with mine all the time. Ifs only a matter of time…😬
I'm waiting for the Toughbuilt 5 in 1 Electricians Knife to get delivered. I was carrying a Workpro Stainless folding utility knife which was great. I switched to the Milwaukee Fastback 6 in 1 because I wanted a bit driver in addition to the knife. The larger size is not a problem. I'm hoping the Toughbuilt carry's well for EDC, but I'm concerned it may just be a bit too big. The Hart knife looks interesting but not rugged. Thanks for making this vdeo!
Right on man! The size of the toughbuilt does detract from it a small amount. I find that some days I don't really realize i have it on me but other days I do feel it down there. I think it has to do with the type of pants pockets I am wearing and just what I am doing in the day.
I'm a Lowe's guy and a bit of a Klein fanboy so I picked up the same Klein one the other day and have been EDCing it. My housemate has the Milwaukee and I hate to admit it but it's definitely the better design, I wish I had a flathead instead of the removable adapter (particularly weird when you think about how common flatheads are in Klein's bread and butter electrical market) and, while the 45 degree lock is cool in theory, I find it kinda hard to reliably flick past it into the full straight position. The bottle opener and blade storage would've been nice too.
Same and same. Yeah, you would think that the flathead would have been the first choice for Klein. To be honest, I far prefer the Klein brand over Milwaukee. This knife is one of only two Milwaukee tools I cary. But I have a bunch of Klein stuff that I love. Its hard for me to admit how well M did with their fastback line! 😅 If I had never used the fastback, I probably would not have been so hard on the Klein in the video. But because it was such a similar product, the shortcomings were just more obvious when using both.
PS I definitely use that bottle opener a little more often than I probably should!
Good to see the Hart has proper metal liners in it like a real knife. Not surprising since it's made by the same ppl who make the Milwaukee.
The Milwaukee is fine for light use, but I would not bother with it if I were using a utility knife often, it is a light weight/light use tool. I carry one in my car, decent enough for a backup and the bit driver may come in handy.
True, there are certain jobs that require a more robust utility knife. I would not lay carpet with the fastback. But as an every day pocket carry, its hard to beat.
Toughbuilt takes this easily that thing looks like a beast
Oh it is! If you don’t mind the size, it’s the winner for sure imho
On the Klein that is an extension so you have two choices, a short screwdriver or a longer one
Carried the fastback for years, and never knew it had that spot for another blade
Its hidden! And they really don't advertise it.
Great job! I carried the fastback for a couple of years and I love it. I bought the Toughbuilt a couple months ago mainly because of the pry bar feature, it is my favorite now!
I have big hands so I do like the larger frame,it’s definitely more comfortable for extended use. The Fastback fits my various EDC pouches I wear, but the Toughbuilt does not. I may just carry a separate pry bar and the Fastback for EDC and the Toughbuilt for work. Still trying to figure that out.
I agree with your thoughts on the Lenox and Klein, I love both of those tool lines and have spent more money than I care to remember on both of them in the last 40 years. But they need to redesign these knives. Excellent Review please keep it up, Thanks!
The pry bar is a winner! Every time I'm not carrying the toughbuilt, I end up needing that pry bar! I have even tried using the lanyard point to pry with.🤣
Just curious as to what would you use that small pry bar on. And being small there doesn't seem to be much leverage.
@@jnoah7537 I use it all the time on paint and stain cans, which I do a lot of. I used it the other day on an interior panel on my SUV when I was installing a camera. Other uses are pretty much anything you might try to use your fingernails on or the blade of your pocket knife. This saves your blade and your nails, haha. But you are right, it is fairly light duty, you cant use it to get a bunch of leverage on things.
Call me Milwaukee fanboy but I just use the flathead as my prybar when needed 🤷🏻♂️. Helped my father with a painting job this weekend, and it held its own with all paint cans and I've even used to pry off outlet plates and other things stuck to drywall.
Kershaw makes a standard blade knife obviously the point of this video was to highlight utility razor blade stlyes. But the Kershaw “select fire” has a bit storage mechanism identical to that Hart. But it has a driver like the Klein with a magnet. I really like that Kershaw a lot. I just replace the bits with my most used Milwaukee bits. Anyways great video sir!
There’s a secret spot to stash an extra blade in the fastback too
Yeah, most people don't know about that one! Thats shy I made sure to include it in the video
Subscribed. Love my Milwaukee 1901, but considering this Fastback as well. Carrying the 1901 and the Leatherman Wave give me just about everything I need for pocket tools, but would be nice to leave the Wave at home sometimes.
Yeah, there is a line when it comes to multi tools. As soon as I start thinking about all the things I can carry in my pockets I quickly end up with too much. It’s hard to pare down from a multitool without feeling naked. lol. I ended up keeping my multitool in my backpack, that way I have it nearby if I need it. Some guys might leave it in their glove box. That said, if it doesn’t bother you to carry it, why change? For me, 90% of what I use my multitool for is cutting, screwdriver, and bottle opener of course. So I rarely feel I am missing out with the fastback. All depends on what you do from day to day. Cheers!
The hart reminds me of the older fast backs. Well, they are made by the same company as Milwaukee
I have the hart one and they learned from gerber because the plastic for the bit holders are a nylon based so thin but won't crack readily they will deform before breaking unlike the more brittle plastic. The spring will be the weak spot but no problems so far.
Great comment my friend! Thanks for the information
I carry and use the Milwaukee, and I like everything about it *EXCEPT* it feels like it opens too far. I feel like it should stop when the "blade" part is more in line with the handle, not a few degrees past it.
I have an older Lennox gold that I love, it had the extra bit storage, blade storage, and a really nice feel, unfortunately the belt clip was trash.
After I made this video I saw that they have one with a bit driver that uses standard bits. I am very interested in that.
24:24 The Hart is the same tool as Milwaukee it’s just the brand is meant for cheaper pricing and it’s commissioned by Walmart the manufacture is TTI. All HART tools are Milwaukee tools it’s just name differently just for Walmart.
Yeah, I know TTI acquired heart a few years ago to fill out their hand-tool line. But just because the same conglomerate owns multiple brands, doesn't mean the brands are the same. Different companies with different engineers and designers using different materials to different tolerances, manufactured in different places (most typically). Half the power tools at HD are TTI, but they are still different brands whose differences are more than the color of plastic. Although, sometimes you do find some that are just a rebrand of the same product. Thats always funny. Red must be an expensive color! 🤣
Fun fact if you use the bit extension from the Klein on the ToughBuilt, the ToughBuilt's magnet comes out with it, it is not glued in, just a knit pick I noticed.
I immediately tried this. lol. Mine didn't come out quite so easily but I was able to get it out. So yeah, not glued in. Or at least not very well. Good eye!
I think klein has the removable bit holder, so you could run your own 2" bit in its place. That's the only thing I can come up with as to why. It's hard to tell from the video if a 2" bit would fit. But I'd love to know. Get back to me on that.
Affirmative. Standard 2" bits fit just fine, with a little room to spare. And there is slightly less wobble when ran that way. The included bit holder seems to have very poor tolerances and accounts for much of the looseness. Also my JIS bits fit even tighter than standard American 2" bits.
weight and size are of the utmost importance to me. if i JUST want a knife, im going to be using the small work-pro that takes up NO space, so the main part of this is the screwdriver. that said, 3 of them loose off the bat. i have been edc-ing the fastback for a few years and have only one minor complaint - ease of removing the spare blade. i have to say, watching the toughbuilt, the whole time i was just thinking "its too big" and then you touched on that at the end, but that pry-bar though.... ill probably end up picking one up and giving it a try. i dont know if the prybar is going to make up for the real estate it takes up, but its worth a go.
one thing about the hart, i like nearly nothing about the design, other than 4 bits. i think 2 flat and 2 philips is a waste, that knife would probably be a hell of a lot better with just 1 #2 phillips, 1/4" flat, and on the other side a t-20 and t-25. they are much more needed in a pinch than a SECOND phillips ever is.
Well said! One can ever go wrong with the fastback. When I carry it, after carrying the Toughbuilt, I do sometimes really miss that pry bar. That said I really miss the bottle opener on the fastback, especially after work! haha
I like the 4 bit capacity on the heart, but the actual driver function is wanting. You have to have the whole knife right up on whatever you are screwing so it wont work in areas where you need any reach. That said, the 4 bit capacity is nice. I am like you, I customized the bits to better reflect the fasteners I run into day to day.
I bought the Klein because the pocket clip on the Milwaukee Fastback is wire and I've bent them out of shape several times. The Klein is solid metal. I'll let you know if I break it
Right on. Yeah I like that clip on the Klein. It is the same clip that is on my workpro knives. I haven't had an issue with my the fastback clip yet, but I could see that happening. Especially if a guy is crawling around in tight spaces like a plumber or electrician.
@@NickDoesThings- I drive tri dump for a paving company and labor. I had a Milwaukee Fastback and the pocket clip got caught on my steering wheel getting in and out of the truck. It got bent several times. The Klein hasn't done that yet.
I use that Lenox every day. It's light and heavy duty. Not bulky like the Milwaukee. I had one and gave it to my coworker cause it was to bulky
I wish I could find the Toughbuilt.
Can’t find it anywhere!
I like your commentary style 😊 however my long time favorite is the Lenox for EDC ❤
Thanks man! And nice choice! You cant go wrong with the build quality on the Lenox stuff. Top tier company.
I carry a Gerber EAB lite for my utility knife and a Kershaw select fire pocket knife for the bit driver.
i have both the toughbuilt and the fast back. both are great tools. I just bring with me one honestly just depending on the pants im wearing lol. the toughbuilt is bigger and a little heavier than the fastback.
Totally agree!
I carry the Milwaukee 6 and 1 fastback for quite some time and the only gripe ever had with it was when you would shut it. The utility knife blade would slam into the bit holder in the back because there is a gap where the blade can go through and the very back of the knife and then you would have a dull spot on your blade. So then I went to the Milwaukee compact fastback
huh! I haven't heard that one yet. I am looking at mine right now and I can see how that would be a possibility. However, mine looks like there is plenty of clearance between the bit holder and the blade. Perhaps after it wears out a bit that starts to happen. Did this happen on multiple of yours? Or could you possibly have had a defective one? Also, apparently there are a few generations of these. Do you happen to know what gen you were carrying? Maybe its something they fixed?
Now I am going to obsess over this and take mine apart. haha!
Once you break in the toughbuilt, you can consistently and accurately launch the bit
milwaukee knew who they were selling to when they added the bottle opener. for $20 its the best one
I um...yeah...I probably use that feature more than I should. 😅
Please provide links to all the items you reviewed.
Only of Cresent made a Lufkin version of a Fastback.. Thanks for the video!
That would be great! I like the Lufkin stuff!
Toughbuilt is my go to love there products!
I'm a big Toughbuilt fan. Lots of innovation in that company.
You can “easily” close the Milwaukee driver one-handed if you thumb the lock and use pointer and center fingers to close. Just the way I do it.
Thats true. I can do it with a bit of finesse. Much prefer the flip action of the toughbuilt though.
I carry the toughbuilt mini, the only one that goes in the pocket tip up.
Thank you for this video!
If you break down boxes, how does it not bother you that you don't get an entirely new blade when you flip it around on the Milwaukee? It ruins the whole knife for me.
I will definitely be getting the toughbuilt for my collection
I was thinking about buying the Bow River but decided on the Fixed Civivi Elementum. Looks less like a steak knife.
Milwaukee was the first one i have seen that put the blade release on the opposite side where if your right handed you wouldn't hit it by accident
My favorite one is Craftsman utility knife. Unfortunately you missed that brand.
I didn't realize they made a utility knife with a driver. What model is it?
I carry the Milwaukee Fastback but I find it interesting mine doesn’t have the bit detent like yours. They must have changed it at some point.
Apparently so. It is my third fastback. My first one did not have the ball detent.
I really want the TOUGHBUILT for the pry bar. I wish the Fastback had a pry bar. I’m going to get a HART for the price,.
Some cool options.
I love the Husky. That's my favorite.
thanks brother. I carry the BOKER KALASHNIKOV AUTO KNIFE
I am a milwaukee fanboy but the only thing I like about the klein is how you can lock the blade at 45 degrees I guess you would say.
That is a nice feature. For some stupid reason, when I shot this video I did not realize that. I had just been flicking it open so I didn't catch it. I pinned a comment about it when I discovered it. It is a useful feature of the Klein for sure!
Very nice video comparing these. Fastback is my top pick as well. I disagree that its a 2 hand close since i have always been able to close mine with 1 hand. that tough built is a solid tool and i love the little pry bar. its too bad that is so much bulkier though. i dislike having it in my pockets. The klein is such a joke and hard copy. i really dont see anyone using it besides YTubers trying to be edgy.
I probably miscommunicated that one. I only meant that the driver on the Milwaukee is not flip open and close. I feel the same way you do for the most part. Thanks for commenting!
Definitely the Fastback is my favorite. Though I haven't carried the others, I can say I LOVE the fastback. Lost my first and replaced it as soon as HD did their combo pack for black Friday that also comes with the compact fastback. My only "issue" is that there isn't a reversible pocket clip. Truly a tradesman staple that everyone in the trades should have in their pocket.
If you love it, no need to look any further!
Milwaukee was over $35 on Amazon last weekend
ooof! forget that! I am not sure why, but for some reason the price on those knives fluctuates all over the place. But just go grab one at Home Depot or Ace Hardware. I never see them for over $16. The one that is in this video came in a 2 pack for $20 on a deal.
Milwaukee has the best design for now, but their bit holder is the weak point and the bits are proprietary. Klein is a close second, but the pocket clip catches on seats, you don't get a two sided bit, and no bottle opener. (I do like the impact driver because sometimes my drill might be missing one and I can just borrow it from the knife in my pocket.)
Do you think the bit holder on the Milwaukee is the weak point because of the fact that the bits are proprietary? Or is there another reason you don't like the bit holder?
I used to have a fastback that did not have a ball detent. But the one I cary now does have a ball. Therefore it has no problem accepting different bits. Although, I haven't tried any other double sided bits because I don't have any. But I suspect it would work just fine for them.
@@NickDoesThings- I've had the screw that keeps the bit holder there come out, I've had the old-style internal band fall out and lost the bit, and the new-style external band came off on the first day with my newest one. It just isn't a good design and the fact that no ordinary bits fit it is a hassle too.
@@NathanBake Dang bro, you have had some bad luck with these things! Or maybe I have just had good luck! I have not experienced failure. I have had multiple, not because they have malfunctioned, but because I lost them, then found them again after I purchased a replacement. There is definitely room for improvement thought. I personally would like to see the pivot point be bulked up, I am always nervous I am going to break it.
"I pull this thing in and out of my pants all the time, I wouldn't like to destroy my pants."
I like Milwaukee but their bits suck. I use wiha best bits ive ever found. Ive tried most brand names even snap-on, matco,dewalt an many more i can't remember (or more likely can't spell) lol.
what bits do you find very useful. I highly recommend wiha. I changed to them on a 3 level deck build. I was using other brand bits like 5 a day.
Bought wiha used 3 bits for the rest of the job and that was because i lost 2 bits on a extention with a broken magnet.
Just bought this hart utility knife.
Have the fastback like it also have the toughbuilt use it more !! Love alot ofbthe toughbuilt stuff
Same, toughbuilt has a bunch of great tools.
TTI Makes milwaukee and Hart
milwaukee fast back for sure the best utility knife to me
Right on!
Milwaukee updated their fastback with a ball joint pin which made me switch to Klein tools
If they switch back the design, I would definitely go back to Milwaukee
I really like the Klein, i gave 9.99 for it. I gotta laugh at you saying the gimping is too aggressive. They sell a model with blade storage. I like the removeable 1/4" driver. That bit driver is geared towards electritians because we use the shit out of ¼" drivers at odd times. 😆
16:34 the Klein tools blade is supposed to lock at 45°.
It does! I missed that in my video but I mentioned it in my pinned comment. Good catch my man!
Which one works best, with the Leatherman ratcheting bit insert?
Thats a great question. Unfortunately I don't have one to try out. I think, because it is flat, having a strong magnet would be important. The fastback uses a retention device so it doesn't have a strong mag. If you take the bit driver out of the Klein and use your bit insert in ints place, you would have a bag but it is pretty shallow. The Toughbuilt doesn't have a very strong mag, however, the insert goes down much deeper than the other drivers so It would probably give the most surface area contact for your flat insert. I would say Klean, or Toughbuilt. I wish I could say more but that is just a guess.
I just got the fast back, the newer model with the metal ball and I can't get the blade storage to work, the liner lock seems kinda loose and won't keep the blade in, just falls out, am I doing something wrong or the quality control on the newer models just aren't that good?
Hart is made by the same parent company that makes Milwaukee so there's that.
Thorough review.
Thanks!
Klein now makes a lot of stuff in China.
It is likely marketed toward electricians.
The impact rated stuff is likely because everything is becoming impact rated. Why make 2 kinds?
Also, it is replaceable if you can grab it off the shelf if you lose or break it.
The Hart one is the same no name design that you can get at Tractor Supply every now and again in the bargain bin.
Oh yeah, definitely made in overseas. Though, despite the fact that Klein is a brand geared more towards electricians, the only tool in this video that one of the companies specifically says is for electricians is the Toughbuilt. It's called the "Electricians 5-in-1." I really think the Klein is going after some of the marketshare of the Fastback.
As to the bit holder theory, good paint, companies should probably just go with all impact rated stuff these days. However it might not show from the video, but that bit driver is very small. I have never seen another one that small. So it would be hard to replace. And if you put a standard bit holder in it, it is too long and wont close when carrying a bit. I am going to do a follow up to this video in a few weeks discussing this stuff a bit more and brining up some of the comments. Thanks for weighing in. Curious if you have any other thoughts?
Very nice review
Thanks friend!
Question what kind of impact driver or even bit holder do you think that that toughbuilt two-sided bit is it going to fit in. I don't think that that was something that they marketed it as being able to do like the klien which clearly that was a poor design. The toughbuilt products are awesome
Oh, that was just speculation based off the odd shape of the driver. I have no clue if it is impact rated. Impact bits just often have a thinner torsion zone. The bit in the toughbuilt put me in the mind of that. Just thinking out loud tbh! Haha
@@NickDoesThings- and I agree that it may have a torsion zone but it's obviously not made for a impact driver you can't put that in a quarter inch collet and I don't think you could put it in an impact bit holder either cuz I don't think they make one deep enough. Js
@@ryanchristopher2207 oh no, it certainly wouldn’t lock into any American collet. But it does go into certain bit holders. I have a Wiha and a Hazet bit holder that bits like this work well in.
Oddly enough, this conversation had me wondering so I tried it in my MIJ Makita impact driver it locked in fine. They are much deeper. Not that I would use it that way. Just had me curious because that imported driver always swallows bits deeper than my made in China, American model, and has slop. I started importing vessel bits for my MIJ one. I may do a video on that tool soon. Thanks for the comments man!
the Lenox mechanism is just like my Irwin and I do not like it. The Fiskars Pro is amazing piece but has no screw driver, still i use a no name knife which is a twin blade too. But, hey. The Milwaukee is on my bucket list.
oooo yeah, the Fiskars knife is legendary.
Where did you find the toughbuilt one?
Hello. Can you give the référence of the toughtbuilt, impossible to find it anywhere. Thanks.
Sure thing man! You can just google “Toughbuilt 5-in-1 electricians utility knife” and you should pull it up easily. Although it looks as like it may only be available at Lowe’s.
Where can you get the toughbuilt knife I been looking but I don’t find it do you have a link thnx
I purchased it at lowes, but unfortunately they no longer seem to cary it. It tought to find right now, my guess is toughbuilt are sort of in between contracts for retail stores. Google the following key words and you should be able to find it somewhere online: toughbuilt, 5-in-1, electricians knife, multitool, pry bar
Where did you purchase the toughbuilt knife?
I purchased mine from Lowes. But the last time I looked for this knife, it was no longer there. I have not looked into the specifics but I noticed that Lowes pulled way way back on their Toughbuilt offerings in 2024. I haver even seen Toughbuilt oddly show up in Harbor Freight...wild! I don't know what is happening there.
You can still find it online id different places under different names. Google "Toughbuilt Electricians 5 in 1." Maybe tag "pry bar" and "folding knife" in the search. You should find it that way.
The Klein uses a bit holder extension for longer reach. No brainer.
I think you mean shorter reach. If they wanted longer reach, they could have built it longer like other brands, instead of using the gimpy little cheap bit holder in the mix. But removing the bit holder does allow for something shorter if you need. Which is a good feature. Wish they would have done it better.
The Lenox model #LXHT10601 is a much better tool for this comparison than the 10771FLK1G you featured in your video, IMO.
Oooooo, you are so right! I haven’t run across that one. I basically just grabbed the ones readily available in my local big box stores.
Toughbuilt knives are the best, i have the one that takes a magazine and the one that flips the blade to become a scraper.
such a cool design!
Nice
The klein has a middle lock position that you missed.
I know, I discovered that the day after I uploaded the video. I did include that information in my pinned comment. I think I’m going to do a second video in a few weeks. Good eye! And thanks for the comment.
I carry the fastback