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Best Utility Knife with Driver | Comparison of Klein, Milwaukee, Lenox, Toughbuilt, Hart
This video has a cross section of readily available utility knives with drivers. We all love the Fastback but how long will it remain king of the mountain?
Intro: (0:00)
Milwaukee: (1:32)
Lenox: (5:29)
Klein: (10:34)
Toughbuilt: (18:32)
Hart: (24:13)
Summery: (29:00)
Intro: (0:00)
Milwaukee: (1:32)
Lenox: (5:29)
Klein: (10:34)
Toughbuilt: (18:32)
Hart: (24:13)
Summery: (29:00)
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Watch me upgrade my DIYer loadout tool tote in real time! Riveting stuff here! Knipex, Klein, Channellock, Icon, Wiha, Bosch, Toughbuilt, Wera, Craftsman, Makita, and more!
Great video, love the long form content and seeing how you plan/put things together. I would love an update video on your tote setup and also maybe your other load outs (you mentioned an electric bag and using the pouches in another comment). Following and hoping for more content!
@@Floam7 thanks man! I am thinking about an update soon. Have used this setup on quite a bit of work and have made some changes. I will probably go the rough and electrical setup and a plumbing setup soonish as well. I have some other content recorded. It need to edit into videos. I recently moved and am renovating. Content will resume once I have my shop space set up.
Milwaukee updated their fastback with a ball joint pin which made me switch to Klein tools
If they switch back the design, I would definitely go back to Milwaukee
i've had the fastback for about a year and got a second one on sale 2pack under 20. may try the toughbuilt due to lever tool.
Add what your framing and roofing materials and cut siding so u can slip l- flashing behind siding then u will have to batt above
Do the roof put your flashing then reside that
Reside that wall…technically only the part above the new roof line.
Easiest way would be to put a piece of roof to wall transition trim directly over existing siding then bring a new water tight siding from the transition trim to the bottom of existing eaves.
I’m with tommyluke6407, that’d be the best way without changing your barn siding
Being that there is already a gap in your vertical boards. You're only option would be to put your step flashing in and then j-channel and vinyl siding up to the higher roof line to make it completely water tight
Put modified roofing on
On the Klein that is an extension so you have two choices, a short screwdriver or a longer one
Im a commercial drywaller and razor knifes are my main method of cutting to i feel like i can add some good insight after my hundreds of thousands of cuts with these things. No these aren’t my go to for most jobs, i use full sized razors mostly of the time. But there is always one of these in my pocket and they get used a lot when im doing smaller work or repairs so they get a lot of use still. The fast back was my best friend for years, nothing was even close. Until i got the klein. Its honestly pretty similar but i love the the driver design better but the main thing for me was the way it locks at an angle because that is crucial for a job like mine to not wear my wrist out on all these cuts. Definitely dethroned the fast back in my book
@@jimboneutron8399 thanks for weighing in! That is definitely a good argument for the Klein. I regret that I didn’t include that locking feature in my original post. I just didn’t know about it at that time. I pinned it in the top comment but more should have been said. Personally I don’t get the bit holder thing. I think the whole setup is a bit too fidgety. And anytime I have my driver I always have all my bits in the same case as the driver so I’m never at a place where I need a little bit holder. That said, a feature is a feature and if it is useful to someone then that settles it. Personally don’t think the trade off with the mechanical slop is worth it. I use my knife as a hand driver mostly and the slop made it a worse experience than the well designed driver in the fast back. I’m thinking about another video to compliment this one on full sized razors. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
@ i don’t remember the brand but in the flooring section of home depot they have one with a fat roundish handle and a curved design. For what i do thats the best option for full size. Your argument about the bit is completely valid. I just like it because i have an extra screw gun bit on me at all times and i use a screw gun all day long and they do get lost. If im actually driving a screw with my knife i take the driver bit off and put it in the short driver. I do it for outlet covers and stuff like that. Edit: its called Big Fatso Multipurpose Utility Knife at Home Depot. Literally the most comfortable knife to use for a job that has heavy razor use like drywall. Its in the flooring section so no one thinks of it.
Take your siding off and do it right!!!
Siding off?!? That seems excessive! I think I’m just going to cut it. I’m much more lazy than you 😅
Cut a channel and put a counter flashing in channel and over. Flashing
1.Surface mounted counter flashing above your step flashing. (Along with a bead of caulk) 2. Cut a 3/4" space where the siding meets the decking. Then, install the step flashing behind siding.
This is basically where my head is at. Cheers!
Best answer here. 👍🏾
The answer is yes
Cut the siding
Wall metal first, then apron.
Cut 3/8 recess....bend 1/4 90°...seal
Am I wrong...only being doing it for 20 years
@@michaeldart5646 I’m not sure I understand. Explain it to me like I’m 5 😅
Cut the siding up 6” Flash the wall , them install a rake trim board with a drip cap to cover the flashing
That sounds about right. Mmm hmm
Use metal shingles and put mastic under each one
Flash it all the way to old roof haha
Your vertical wood siding has half inch gaps between them so waters going to get in regardless. Youd have to put some kind of vinyl siding over the wood after you flash it to keep water out or add a 2nd layer of wood siding over the flashing like the other guy commented
Ah I'd pass on vinyl. All that j channel for a 18" area. I'd do concrete siding if you haven't installed anything. Lasts forever and that little area would prob be like 2-3 boards 😂
@@OldManLuffy good eyes! But that is where the batten boards go. I removed the old ones and will replace new ones after the new roof portion is installed and flashing is on.
@@NickDoesThings- there ya go good carpenters solve their own questions most of the tjme
Cut the siding with a circular saw or a multitool, then slide either ledger flashing, or even better, step flashing up under it.
You could probably use tin shingles like you would Flash a brick chimney
Replace it with dry wall lowkey
Put another layer of side wall - flashing between it and the old
Just seen your comment after posting mine 👌🏼 exactly what I’d do.
I have 3 MKE Fastback knives, the 1505 you showed, plus a 1500 (compact) and 1501. Love them all, but the 1505 is my favorite. Mine is the original model with wire retainer on the bit holder rather than the ball retainer on the one you showed.
I use that Lenox every day. It's light and heavy duty. Not bulky like the Milwaukee. I had one and gave it to my coworker cause it was to bulky
You dogged that Klein for no good reason. I've had the Milwaukee Fastback for years, from metal to plastic, and just switched to Fein for two reasons. The 135° angle is super useful for careful precise cutting that keeps your fingers protected. The second is the screw driver, both the base and the impact rated extension are magnetized. It's super useful, first, I can load it with what ever bit I need for the task (flat, square, T25). Second, if I'm running an impact driver (usually T25) and need that random Phillips moment, there it is, in my knife which is always with me. Last comment, you dinged the Fein for that aggressive top grip. That seems unfair. I wear gloves frequently, which adds grip, but when I'm not, I prefer this extra grippy top, especially when applying extra pressure. For those of us in the trades, the Fein is a tool built for the trades, with a slight bias towards carpenters.
Ahh, bummer, we disagree. No big deal! You can have my Klein lol.
The Klein sounds (and looks) like a Duplo toy 😅
you said it! 😂
Lose the bit on the Milwaukee and good luck finding a replacement…you’re stuck buying a new one…the Klein can use bits you can pick up anywhere dirt cheap.
What do you mean? You can just pop any old quarter inch bit in the fastback. I have done it many times. Sometimes I keep a T or R bit in there if I am doing a certain job. The only thing is it would be difficult to replace the Milwaukee double sided bit. But if you loose it you can keep any bit in there, but will be limited to one type of bit. So it would downgrade the Fastback to being a little closer to the Klein, as the Klein starts out with the limitation of just one bit. However, I know there have been different iterations of the fastback bit holder. Maybe the other versions take a special size bit? I haven't heard of it but its possible. All the FBs I have had use a ball detent. Maybe you had a different experience with a different iteration of this tool from years ago? Thanks for the comment!
@@NickDoesThings- yes you can but nothing to retain it and the bits are loose in it. And if you leave the bit in then it can come out just enough to keep the bit holder from opening. Milwaukee really needs to make replacement bits available. The Klein doesn’t have the issue. Any bit stays in it. With kids who borrow tools without asking, the Klein is a better choice.
@@fortwoods I understand where you are coming from. That would be super annoying. I guess I lucked out, my fastback holds normal bits with no issues. I currently am running a T8 bit because of something i'm working on at my job. It's been in my fastback for 3 weeks, no issues. I COMPLETELY agree that M needs to sell replacement bits. I think they are missing a market. They could even sell other configurations. I'm sure electricians would love to see a fastback with a square drive.
I work at a very busy restaurant. We are always opening boxes and there are endless #2 Phillips that need tightening everywhere. The fastback is perfect. Especially the easy one hand open and close knife. It’s dangerous to leave an open knife lying around.
"The driver liner lock isn't one handed" ok, just learn to close it right and its no problem to close single handed.
True bro, there is a knack to it. But it is a comparison video, gotta compare something! cheers!
Toughbuilt makes horrible knives. I also wanted to love Fiskars but in the end only their blades are good. Fastbacks are probably Milwaukee's best tool.
I'm still loving the Toughbuilt I showed in this video. Been on 15 job sites and still works like brand new. With a little less paint though! And yes, I'm really not much of a Milwaukee fan, so it pains me to carry that red knife every day...haha! But it's a great stinking edc.
milwaukee knew who they were selling to when they added the bottle opener. for $20 its the best one
I um...yeah...I probably use that feature more than I should. 😅
I destroyed my Milwaukee Fastback by trying to make the hinge on the blade more smooth as it was difficult to swing open. I bought a regular HART utility knife and LOVE that it has the "gravity" close feature such as the one you reviewed for the Tough Built. I will definitely be adding this other HART Utility Knife with the screw driver bits!
Right on man!
Where can you get the toughbuilt knife I been looking but I don’t find it do you have a link thnx
I purchased it at lowes, but unfortunately they no longer seem to cary it. It tought to find right now, my guess is toughbuilt are sort of in between contracts for retail stores. Google the following key words and you should be able to find it somewhere online: toughbuilt, 5-in-1, electricians knife, multitool, pry bar
I carry a Gerber EAB lite for my utility knife and a Kershaw select fire pocket knife for the bit driver.
I'm a Lowe's guy and a bit of a Klein fanboy so I picked up the same Klein one the other day and have been EDCing it. My housemate has the Milwaukee and I hate to admit it but it's definitely the better design, I wish I had a flathead instead of the removable adapter (particularly weird when you think about how common flatheads are in Klein's bread and butter electrical market) and, while the 45 degree lock is cool in theory, I find it kinda hard to reliably flick past it into the full straight position. The bottle opener and blade storage would've been nice too.
Same and same. Yeah, you would think that the flathead would have been the first choice for Klein. To be honest, I far prefer the Klein brand over Milwaukee. This knife is one of only two Milwaukee tools I cary. But I have a bunch of Klein stuff that I love. Its hard for me to admit how well M did with their fastback line! 😅 If I had never used the fastback, I probably would not have been so hard on the Klein in the video. But because it was such a similar product, the shortcomings were just more obvious when using both. PS I definitely use that bottle opener a little more often than I probably should!
Milwaukee has the best design for now, but their bit holder is the weak point and the bits are proprietary. Klein is a close second, but the pocket clip catches on seats, you don't get a two sided bit, and no bottle opener. (I do like the impact driver because sometimes my drill might be missing one and I can just borrow it from the knife in my pocket.)
Do you think the bit holder on the Milwaukee is the weak point because of the fact that the bits are proprietary? Or is there another reason you don't like the bit holder? I used to have a fastback that did not have a ball detent. But the one I cary now does have a ball. Therefore it has no problem accepting different bits. Although, I haven't tried any other double sided bits because I don't have any. But I suspect it would work just fine for them.
@@NickDoesThings- I've had the screw that keeps the bit holder there come out, I've had the old-style internal band fall out and lost the bit, and the new-style external band came off on the first day with my newest one. It just isn't a good design and the fact that no ordinary bits fit it is a hassle too.
@@NathanBake Dang bro, you have had some bad luck with these things! Or maybe I have just had good luck! I have not experienced failure. I have had multiple, not because they have malfunctioned, but because I lost them, then found them again after I purchased a replacement. There is definitely room for improvement thought. I personally would like to see the pivot point be bulked up, I am always nervous I am going to break it.
Do you have a favorite brand of utility blades?
nnnnnot really. @ProjectFarm did a comparison from which I believe Milwaukee came out on top (If I remember correctly). But my take away from the comparison is that the Stanley blades perform really well for the money. So that's what I use. TBH I change blades constantly. I'm not one of those guys who uses a blade until its no longer a blade but rather a sliver of metal...lol. As soon as I sense some dulling I swap. So I can't speak with much authority on how long a given blade will retain its edge.
I seem to just want all of these. I just picked up a Klein without a driver and love it. I love that the notch is exposed and you can use it without opening the blade. I also have to get that Lenox.. it stands out and if im breaking down boxes it seems like that will be very comfortable .
You are a lot like me! haha! I have tons of these things. If you are considering the Lenox, you might check out their other offering in this category. The Lenox LX250. I was not able to get a hold of one for the making of this video but they look awesome. They actually have a bit driver with storage in the handle to hold two bits. The Lenox stuff is super well made. Cheers!
I think hart is harbor freight?
Hart is Wallmart. They are owned by TTI, the same company that owns Milwaukee, Ryobi, Rigid, etc. The handtool lines art Harbor Freight are mostly Icon, Pittsburgh, and Doyle. And I have to say, I freaking love the Doyle stuff. All my Doyle stuff is holding up really really well and is decently comfortable to use.
Allow me to say that I am Milwaukee fan. I am happy with 1505. Thanks for the comparison
Got the Milwaukee fastback and love it. I use it daily
Welcome to the club! You are in great company my friend!
lanyard would be for tieing to wrist or body so not to drop at height
I prefer to simply yell "headache!" a little too late for someone to actually move...😅
Great run down! I'm a welder/mouldmaker and I daily the fastback. It's not perfect but it's fast and effective. That Toughbuilt looks really, really enticing, though! The Hart and Milwaukee are owned by the same company, TTI. I would not be surprised if they were made in the same factory.
As I understand it TTI acquired Hart to sort of beef up their selection of hand tools. I am a shareholder and that was what they said back when they made the acquisition. But it seems like they pivoted from that to simply offer an entire line of tools for homeowners. I'm not sure about the production. I know Milwaukee does some manufacturing in Germany, and Mexico as well as China and Vietnam. But I am pretty sure Hart is only produced in China. Not sure if that means anything. I personally could care less about where a tool is made if it is good. And the fastback is good. Thanks for the comment!
Where did you purchase the toughbuilt knife?
I purchased mine from Lowes. But the last time I looked for this knife, it was no longer there. I have not looked into the specifics but I noticed that Lowes pulled way way back on their Toughbuilt offerings in 2024. I haver even seen Toughbuilt oddly show up in Harbor Freight...wild! I don't know what is happening there. You can still find it online id different places under different names. Google "Toughbuilt Electricians 5 in 1." Maybe tag "pry bar" and "folding knife" in the search. You should find it that way.
Thank you for this video! If you break down boxes, how does it not bother you that you don't get an entirely new blade when you flip it around on the Milwaukee? It ruins the whole knife for me. I will definitely be getting the toughbuilt for my collection