I'm a judo guy, but I honestly was so happy to see the BJJ guy not throw himself on the ground into guard postion. He stood up and competed. It wasn't his day, but he went out on his shield.
One time I got my lights turned off from a single judo throw , and I was a martial artist with 5 years of experience at the time, I really got humbled, amazing experience
these days, judokas have an unimaginable inferiority complex towards BJJ, surely because their sport has run out of steam. but know one thing my crybabies, 90% of judoka black belts are twisted by jjb black belts. most of you are average in throwing and have no level in newaza. don't compare yourself with Jeff who is in the top 10% of judoka and a jjb black belt.
Was expecting judo to throw the shit outta BJJ but to tap the BJJ out aswell is flawless EDIT: Thanks for the likes, but what up with y'all Tryna tell me about my sports like I don't know these things. Go make your own comment on how you feel👌
Dude. Judo is BJJ. They don't just practice tossing but after a toss they don't let you go. They go straight into a submission. I know a lot of people don't know that and I think it's because judo judo is really effective like extremely effective so you don't really see that many judo dojos out there because it's not easy to get accepted into it you want to guess why because it's extremely effective and deadly I mean look at it you know people think that BJJ is really effective and this and that but when you have a more complete style and this is where Jiu-Jitsu came from by the way The real judo is basically both it's put your ass on the ground and then submit you and it's over what are you going to do The toss alone will definitely discombobulate you by the time you come to you're tapping out cuz they already grabbed one of your limbs whichever one you give them or whichever one they grab and they don't let go as you can see in that video they instantly go for the arm or the leg or your neck but usually they go for an arm and they have many submissions same as jujitsu the same ones but it's so much more fluid when you first toss them and then go into the submission so that proves that it's more complete basically jujitsu is a Japanese heart but Brazilian jujitsu was basically you know like another person's version of the same art so they just modified it kind of like how Wing Chun has different Masters and they all teach a different style of Wing Jung the same same thing you know same thing with kung fu you know Bruce Lee made his own Jeet kune do style it's his own philosophy That's pretty much what Brazilian jujitsu is to their own philosophy but like all arts you know in the beginning when it's a mysterious it's very effective but once they figure it out you know the UFC's perfect for that like you hardly see BJJ Masters as champions anymore cuz once everybody is at least well introduced to BJJ and how to protect yourself from it it loses all its mystery and it's mystique and therefore it's not that easy to get somebody in the ground and keep them there now especially when you know wrestling is extremely effective against BJJ extremely because if you want to roll on the ground the last person you want to roll on the ground with is a wrestler just like a BJJ once they get a hold of you they're not going to let go and they're better at tossing you around than BJJ cuz BJ's not known for tossing but a judo is so if you ever see a wrestler go against the judo practitioner judo hands down because they're a combination of tossing which is similar to wrestling but better if you ask me of course you know wrestlers always shoot for the legs and so to BGJ practitioners but wrestlers are more effective at it they're much quicker they're stronger and all they need to do really is just grab you after that they'll they'll pick you up and BJJ practitioners aren't really trying to pick you up they're trying to grab you and take you down to the floor That's the only way that they can fight but a judo practitioner he can fight you standing up and he can fight you on the floor and he's more deadly standing up to be honest and they do practice some striking just like a taekwondo it's not just kicks they also have some punches but it's really just mainly about tossing you and they have many different ways of doing that and man they have some sweet some sweet flips man they come out of nowhere dude it's just a beautiful art and it's extremely effective
Any true BJJ black belt is absolutely well versed in Judo takedowns. You won't receive your black belt without that knowledge. It's just a matter of time spent training one discipline vs the other. The judoka spends a majority of their time on nage waza and ne waza is often secondary (but I feel that's changing now). Whereas the BJJ practitioner focuses on their ground game, with less time spent on takedowns.
sorry borther Bjj is coming from Judo they just modified from Judo technique acutally they are coping Judo technique and develped it on ground fight. however, judo good at throw and control in standing position so bjj boys hard to put them on the ground in first place
And the Judo guy dominated without dragging his ass to start the match how refreshing Edit: Appreciate the support. I knew I'm not the only one thinking it🤷🏽♂
@@TheAlbert1A1 the BJJ competitor is also a blue belt in Judo, so the video isn’t “bullshit” as you said. It’s still “Judo blackbelt •VS• BJJ blackbelt”
Who's at my gym used to train with them to learn how to do takedowns because in Jiu-Jitsu we didn't train stand up as much. Not all the throws are legal but they utilize the ones they were allowed
The Judoka is also a brown belt in BJJ at the time the video was taken. He wasn't just a random Judoka, either. Top flight competitor. Edit: Since so many people seem to think I'm lying about his background, the guy's name is Jeff "Ippon" Lawson. This took place Oct 19, 2016 at Polaris 4. He has fought in the UFC and even been on The Ultimate Fighter.
Why is it underrated? Ronda Rousey in her early days dominated all her matches due to her judo background. Of course her ego and lack of striking ability caught up to her in the end, but that's how it goes for almost any martial art in modern MMA...
@@zato6226 yeah that is true😅 I like the throws I've never been on judo because there was no gym in my neighborhood but i bought some books and tried some out with my brother.
Judo doesn't have takedowns, they are throws. And judoka don't go to gyms, they go to dojo. Not trying to disrespect but saying either to a judoka (someone who practices judo) is very 😬.
Nothing beats a pro judo guy on the streets, their throws are the deadliest martial arts weapon. Especially in winter when you have a nice coat they can grab you onto😂
Judo and wrestling are dangerous skills. Imagine if this was concrete pavement. Nighty night, maybe forever. BJJ is ridiculously funny compared to these two combat sports.
@@icewolf6954 The video is not misleading. He used his JUDO skills to slam the other guy to the ground. In real life you're done after that. Besides, you need way too much time to deal with a single untrained opponent by using BJJ. It's extremely counter productive in self defense, especially against multiple opponents.
You clearly don’t know what ur talking about loser lmao the judo ended the second the takedown occurred. Many of us in the world of fighting train in many different disciplines, im an mma fighter myself, and a I know a lot of guys who do both judo and bjj. Everything the guy who was representing judo did beyond the takedown was clearly trained Brazilian jiu jitsu. The sport of judo does not include armbars. And the guy who was taken down was very lowly trained, if at all. They’re both very intense martial arts and you’re just another fat keyboard warrior that thinks his opinions on something he’ll never have the balls to do himself actually carry any weight at all.
Realistically one solid judo takedown on concrete is more valuable in a real world fight scenario compared to a BJJ submission. If you have a chance to learn both, start with Judo.
People should do whatever interests them. It doesn't matter what they start with. The exercise and training from either one... or boxing, kickboxing, etc. are all better than sitting on the couch.
Hugging and grabbing isn't high level combat, looks like they both would get knocked out if someone wanted their jaw to meet their hand. In a real fight, all these grapples would be Muut. Simply for show, not even real combat. Who the fuck finds hugging and groping to be intimidating or spectacular?
@@ShadowTwister28the Roman’s, the Greeks, the Spartans, the Persians, and every country that created a wrestling team after the Greek pankration became the Olympics. Hitting people in the face is great but when you slip or fall or get knocked down it’s beneficial to know how to get up quickly or to snap some legs while you’re down. All fighting has value only a wimp who gets clocked easy doubts fighting styles. Guarantee I know some old tai chi head that would would you water style😂
Nothing is forbidden in a street fight. Just because you think you're barred from doing something, doesn't mean the other guy thinks that. Everything is fair on the street, no matter what you've been led to believe.
@@casz7098 true NGL. But judo is not to be used in offense , there is a reason we use Matt’s, break fall, gi, etc. respect for life, unless your life is threatened I would never use my judo in a street fight over pride. I k ow my pride can get someone killed or land me in jail. So only when I or my family is threatened will I ever drop your ass on concrete with standing seonagi
He was also a brown belt in bjj at the time the video was taken, he is also a top fighter as well. So when it comes to one or the other both have their uses in many situations
@@johnathonlivingston7573 if judo is a complete martial art why did the black belt in judo bother with learning jui jitsu. He's also a brown belt in jui jitsu. The details people always leave out or don't know. Of course the judo player has a huge advantage in throws but don't forget he's also a brown belt in jui jitsu once it hit the ground
Most people are familiar with Judo throws from seeing it in Judo competitions. But Judo has ground game, submissions, and even striking. BJJ’s ground game came from Judo, although BJJ more fully developed and favored the guard. The Judoka likely crossed trained because a lot of Judo schools emphasize throwing for competition over ground game.
I was told, a long time ago, and I'm in my 50's, that you should learn two things: (1) Judo, so you learn what it feels like to be thrown to the ground, how to fall, how to recover, and how to throw other people around; and, (2) Boxing, so you learn what it feels like to get punched, how to recover, how to tolerate it, that you should get back on your feet, and how to throw your own punches. Master those two and you'll be formidable.
Judo has one big flaw, i just have to take my jacket and top off. But there are a few jacket wrestling techniques, the most popular used to be Irish wrestling, Judo was invented and has a lot of the same throws as Irish wrestling, but goes for submission rather than pin. I think getting kicked in the leg is important to know too.
@@stevec1788 my bad Dr Shakespeare, English isn't my first language. A friend of mine has a theory about people like you «The Grammar Bullies»: The end up in Hell making the hardest dictation for all eternity🤣🤣🤣
@@user-kb7ue7hg2ythey do, even feet, leg and knee ones but they are not allowed in almost all judo competitions because it’s easy to ger carried away especially with flying knee bars
@RichyRich2213 hey genius he didn't say he heard it. If you watch the guy in the blue he clearly says "fuck" as he's getting up. It's called reading lips. He's not talking about the ref
@@TS-rb2zl Not necessarily true, especially if you have been training for 'contest Judo' rather than 'club Judo'; club judo being more pure kata based.
Yeah, I’m surprised by that. I remember the countless hours to doing repetitive break fall practices on the mat by yourself, to the point where you don’t think to do a break fall - it’s a reflex.
Dude stole that combo straight outta Rhonda Rousey’s UFC playbook lol. The big difference being in a full-fledged fight, I’m betting the dude also has a stand-up game.
I went flipping airborne in football practice once and landed flat on my back so hard, it knocked all the air out of me and nearly knocked me out. I woke up with the team in a circle looking down on me like a movie scene when they film the inside of a huddle. It was comical how landing that hard stunned me like a car crash dummy. lol.
First I've read of Goju. I know black belt taekwondo and she says never heard of it, others have said the same. I took Goju classes long ago for about a year. No one knows about it.
these days, judokas have an unimaginable inferiority complex towards BJJ, surely because their sport has run out of steam. but know one thing my crybabies, 90% of judoka black belts are twisted by jjb black belts. most of you are average in throwing and have no level in newaza. don't compare yourself with Jeff who is in the top 10% of judoka and a jjb black belt.
The whole sequence from picture perfect throw, to ‘man handling’ the BJJ guy like a sack of coal, then to arm lock submission was pure text book illustration of 💯 martial art effectiveness
Growing up learning traditional taekwondo, we've always been told, kick hard, kick fast and end the fight. There's no time to fly and jump around like an idiot. Don't ever let anyone grab you and if you see the sky, you're screwed. None of us cared to take the takedowns and locks seriously until we had an open sparring match against judokas. We got the shit knocked out of us hard one of us actually shat when he was slammed. Needless to say, we bucked the hell up after that.
@@crunchynetto6979 That's a good question. Sadly, I can't answer that though. I was taught to use my hands. The amount of conditioning we did to our hands were ridiculous.
I was on the Army Taekwondo team in the early 00s. We would travel around Korea teaching taekwondo to troops and putting on shows. In 2005, at Camp Stanley Korea, I met a katusa that was some kind of world champ in judo. He absolutely destroyed the whole team. To this day I have never seen someone manhandle grown men like that. It was truly incredible.
@Brian-bc8ds yup just taekwondo. It's required that all soldiers stationed in Korea attempt to earn a belt. Something about an intermingling of cultures. I was super athletic and could do some nifty kicks and tricks so they asked if I was interested. I had never taken it before. It was an awesome experience spending 8 to 10 hours a day, 5 days a week for a year of my life dedicated to taekwondo.
My judo dojo also taught taekwondo classes. Once you reached a certain rank in either judo or taekwondo, you were allowed to join a Japanese jujitsu class. When the taekwondo people would spar with the judo people during jujitsu class, the judo people would destroy them. Every. Time.
@justinsmith4562 nope. That onto the head on concrete could kill not ko. The way he hit the ground with no break fall if that was concrete he'd be making a whole bunch of man moans
Fellow Combat Sambo practitioner here. It's a fantastic art for the psyche, transformed how I go about everything in day to day life. I was once training with a man who told me an old Sikh proverb from their martial art (I forget the name of it right now) but, it says; "When we stop breathing, we stop living." I took a great deal from that. Take care my friend, best wishes from the UK
Totally agree. Bjj is a business for middle class people. The training method keeps them safe but makes them believe they are killers . The arrogance that goes with it is ridiculous.
@@GonzoTehGreat That's really only a thing in BJJ competitions. You still learn takedowns in Jiu Jitsu it's just that in a lot of the bigger competitions you're not penalized for being on bottom. The whole "BJJ GUYS CRAWL ON THEIR ASS" thing is kinda blown out of proportion.
@@fisherthegoat I've practised both Judo and JJJ for several years, but not BJJ, however I'm aware they ALL teach take downs. Unfortunately, some BJJ practitioners try to exploit competition rules, which unsurprisingly reflects badly on their sport, especially now that fights are often recorded and shared on the Internet
The great Don Frye was asked why he never trained bjj , his reply , I got a black belt in judo , why would I want to learn watered down judo ? Love Don he was a beast .
Those judo throws knock your soul out for a couple seconds
Beautiful throw
Bone rattling😭☠️
My dad was a USMC judo instructor in the 1960s, there are throws that can disable or paralyze if not kill.
Facts!😂
Yes they do. My sensei threw while we were sparing and me a few eye blinks to realize I was being submitted
Something about Judo throws are so satisfying
They're so fucking cool man
Poetry in motion
Perfection..done without thought.
Not something... Everything
Boxers hit you with their fists.
Judokas hit you with the floor.
I'm a judo guy, but I honestly was so happy to see the BJJ guy not throw himself on the ground into guard postion. He stood up and competed. It wasn't his day, but he went out on his shield.
Because he would have won?
@@kylethedalekhe have a better day starting on the ground with a judo guy. Shit boy anybody knows that
@@kylethedalek Because it's lame and gay to start on your back.
@@kylethedalek I'm a bjj guy. Butt scooting is lame and gay. You lose the fight by default if your first move is "breed me daddy".
@@user-br6ve4lz6ntrue af, if u are in a real fight you aren’t gonna lay on your back are u so why u doing it in sports unless you’re thrown there
One time I got my lights turned off from a single judo throw , and I was a martial artist with 5 years of experience at the time, I really got humbled, amazing experience
Lol
My old karate instructor told us "If you ever get into a fight with someone who knows judo...run"
Yeah judo strength is just different
I've been training in Aiki-Jujitsu for several years. And I think that he would have more of a problem with that style
Dang but that’s how you learn glad you’re ok
That was a picture-perfect Judo throw and finish. Well done.
Thanks.
the jujigatame is also used in BJJ ;)
And he would have win with that one throw if it was a judo ruled « fight ». Beautiful
these days, judokas have an unimaginable inferiority complex towards BJJ, surely because their sport has run out of steam.
but know one thing my crybabies, 90% of judoka black belts are twisted by jjb black belts. most of you are average in throwing and have no level in newaza. don't compare yourself with Jeff who is in the top 10% of judoka and a jjb black belt.
I’m confused which guy was representing judo and which guy was representing BJJ ?
Nice throw! IPPON!
Was expecting judo to throw the shit outta BJJ but to tap the BJJ out aswell is flawless
EDIT: Thanks for the likes, but what up with y'all Tryna tell me about my sports like I don't know these things. Go make your own comment on how you feel👌
Dude. Judo is BJJ. They don't just practice tossing but after a toss they don't let you go. They go straight into a submission. I know a lot of people don't know that and I think it's because judo judo is really effective like extremely effective so you don't really see that many judo dojos out there because it's not easy to get accepted into it you want to guess why because it's extremely effective and deadly I mean look at it you know people think that BJJ is really effective and this and that but when you have a more complete style and this is where Jiu-Jitsu came from by the way The real judo is basically both it's put your ass on the ground and then submit you and it's over what are you going to do The toss alone will definitely discombobulate you by the time you come to you're tapping out cuz they already grabbed one of your limbs whichever one you give them or whichever one they grab and they don't let go as you can see in that video they instantly go for the arm or the leg or your neck but usually they go for an arm and they have many submissions same as jujitsu the same ones but it's so much more fluid when you first toss them and then go into the submission so that proves that it's more complete basically jujitsu is a Japanese heart but Brazilian jujitsu was basically you know like another person's version of the same art so they just modified it kind of like how Wing Chun has different Masters and they all teach a different style of Wing Jung the same same thing you know same thing with kung fu you know Bruce Lee made his own Jeet kune do style it's his own philosophy That's pretty much what Brazilian jujitsu is to their own philosophy but like all arts you know in the beginning when it's a mysterious it's very effective but once they figure it out you know the UFC's perfect for that like you hardly see BJJ Masters as champions anymore cuz once everybody is at least well introduced to BJJ and how to protect yourself from it it loses all its mystery and it's mystique and therefore it's not that easy to get somebody in the ground and keep them there now especially when you know wrestling is extremely effective against BJJ extremely because if you want to roll on the ground the last person you want to roll on the ground with is a wrestler just like a BJJ once they get a hold of you they're not going to let go and they're better at tossing you around than BJJ cuz BJ's not known for tossing but a judo is so if you ever see a wrestler go against the judo practitioner judo hands down because they're a combination of tossing which is similar to wrestling but better if you ask me of course you know wrestlers always shoot for the legs and so to BGJ practitioners but wrestlers are more effective at it they're much quicker they're stronger and all they need to do really is just grab you after that they'll they'll pick you up and BJJ practitioners aren't really trying to pick you up they're trying to grab you and take you down to the floor That's the only way that they can fight but a judo practitioner he can fight you standing up and he can fight you on the floor and he's more deadly standing up to be honest and they do practice some striking just like a taekwondo it's not just kicks they also have some punches but it's really just mainly about tossing you and they have many different ways of doing that and man they have some sweet some sweet flips man they come out of nowhere dude it's just a beautiful art and it's extremely effective
@@edgarv7879 no one is reading allat
Well the arm bar did come from Judo.
Yea I didn't know who was who until he got yeeted.
@@oktxvijus😂
That judo guy knew BJJ, but that BJJ guy didn't know judo
Any true BJJ black belt is absolutely well versed in Judo takedowns. You won't receive your black belt without that knowledge.
It's just a matter of time spent training one discipline vs the other. The judoka spends a majority of their time on nage waza and ne waza is often secondary (but I feel that's changing now). Whereas the BJJ practitioner focuses on their ground game, with less time spent on takedowns.
Both techniques from the winner were judo techniques...sorry.
@@johnewell4446What he means is that the judo black belt also has a brown belt in BJJ.
sorry borther Bjj is coming from Judo they just modified from Judo technique acutally they are coping Judo technique and develped it on ground fight. however, judo good at throw and control in standing position so bjj boys hard to put them on the ground in first place
I think judo is waaaayyy underrated as a combat/zelf defence sport. It has so many moves that are good in a real fight
It's not that judo is underrated, it's BJJ that's highly overrated as combat/self defense art.
The issue with judo is it's not very aggressive in lower grades. Bjj on the other hand, you learn how to do a lot of dangerous stuff early on.
Find out once and for all: BJJ is only Kosen Judo (originally called Kano Jiu-Jitsu), brought to Brazil by masters Mitsuyo Maeda and Geo Omori.
True..if I'm not mistaken, the original jiujutsu is actually only a part of Judo.. @@gallinarabiosa
aikido is the master way
Jeff is a highly accomplished martial artist, judoka first and a high level bjj practitioner too. A great teacher and a lovely bloke.
I’d be sure we were on good speaking terms and good friends. 😆
What's a BJJ??
Yeah was boutta say he definitely knows more than judo 😂 the way he keeps him to side while he tries to pull guard, obviously not his first rodeo!
So it's actually judo/bjj vs bjj 😂
So, it wasn't Judo vs BJJ. It was Jufoka with high level BJJ vs ;
BJJ only.😅
And the Judo guy dominated without dragging his ass to start the match how refreshing
Edit: Appreciate the support. I knew I'm not the only one thinking it🤷🏽♂
Like a dog with an itchy hole 😂
BJJ are the ass draggers.
He's a Bjj brown belt not just judo this video is bs 😂
@@TheAlbert1A1 the BJJ competitor is also a blue belt in Judo, so the video isn’t “bullshit” as you said. It’s still “Judo blackbelt •VS• BJJ blackbelt”
Never a truer statement 😂
This why Rhonda rousey was so dominant during her reign. Literally the exact same moves she used in almost all her wins
And Karo Parisyan. Dudes were straight terrified of his throws.
That fucking judo throw was a solid 10/10 perfect technique
I train Judo, I love training with BJJ guys, we can learn so much from each other.
Well that's not the point 😌
@@josevarela4271in the end that's the only point
@@josevarela4271But it is the whole point of sparring , you can learn from each other ...
Who's at my gym used to train with them to learn how to do takedowns because in Jiu-Jitsu we didn't train stand up as much. Not all the throws are legal but they utilize the ones they were allowed
I got paired with the new guy to spar at bjj class one time. His white belt was deceiving because he was a black belt in judo. I got trolled lol
The Judoka is also a brown belt in BJJ at the time the video was taken. He wasn't just a random Judoka, either. Top flight competitor.
Edit: Since so many people seem to think I'm lying about his background, the guy's name is Jeff "Ippon" Lawson. This took place Oct 19, 2016 at Polaris 4. He has fought in the UFC and even been on The Ultimate Fighter.
You forgot about his SAMBO training as well.
He was just a Judo guy no BJJ
@@johnreidy2804what!???
@@Creasey_F He was just a Judo guy no BJJ
Black belts in judo are on the same level as blue belts in BJJ without ever staking a class
Fun especially because the throw was an ippon, and the judoka didn't even hesitate in continuing to the hold/lock
That throw was 🤌
Judo is extremely underrated martial sport
Very efficient
It was literally developed as a sport version of jiu-jitsu, if memory serves.
Why is it underrated? Ronda Rousey in her early days dominated all her matches due to her judo background. Of course her ego and lack of striking ability caught up to her in the end, but that's how it goes for almost any martial art in modern MMA...
I still remember when Captain Americas dossier just had boxing and judo on it
@@o-wolf that's actually a great combo to have knowledge in
Haha @@ThalanoxI get it. And JJ is just a form of BJJ designed for competitive love making.
Judo is one of the coolest sports.
The takedowns are crazy.
Bro , Judo does not take you down. They hit you with the ground.
@@zato6226 yeah that is true😅
I like the throws I've never been on judo because there was no gym in my neighborhood but i bought some books and tried some out with my brother.
Judo doesn't have takedowns, they are throws. And judoka don't go to gyms, they go to dojo. Not trying to disrespect but saying either to a judoka (someone who practices judo) is very 😬.
@@OneFoxTwoFox 🤣🤣🤣 yeah you're right I'm sorry 🤐
@@OneFoxTwoFox stop being cringe about it
The thing I love about the dojo we practice is we learn BJJ but on top of that we include a lot of throws too.
Nothing beats a pro judo guy on the streets, their throws are the deadliest martial arts weapon. Especially in winter when you have a nice coat they can grab you onto😂
Judo is a great foundation. Much respect. One of the hardest matches I had was against a heavyweight Judo practitioner.
I am really impressed with these comments. No bashing, just respect and appreciation for the art.. Well done guys 💯
Yeah, heaven forbid someone disagrees with you. That wouldn't be appropriate in the modern world.
nah. fck the lying arrogant gracies.
Yeah I actually infact disagree
That's because... no paid actors here.
well i wanted to hate lol..... that bjj guy got subbed pretty easy to be a ¨black belt¨ it not like he was supplexed and went out.
BJJ guy hit the ground like a deadweight.
Judo and wrestling are dangerous skills.
Imagine if this was concrete pavement. Nighty night, maybe forever.
BJJ is ridiculously funny compared to these two combat sports.
@@bmsuperstar1 well the judo fighter is also a BJJ fighter the video is misleading
@@bmsuperstar1 right but after buttscooting to you, Mikey would tap you in what 45 seconds optimistically?
@@brodysievers5163 mikey would get his head stomped in if he did that on the street.
@@icewolf6954 The video is not misleading. He used his JUDO skills to slam the other guy to the ground.
In real life you're done after that.
Besides, you need way too much time to deal with a single untrained opponent by using BJJ.
It's extremely counter productive in self defense, especially against multiple opponents.
Judo = flawless victory ☠️
BrazilianJJ is just like a kiosk inside the judo superMall..
That's retarded
It will be deferent story against JJJ
You clearly don’t know what ur talking about loser lmao the judo ended the second the takedown occurred. Many of us in the world of fighting train in many different disciplines, im an mma fighter myself, and a I know a lot of guys who do both judo and bjj. Everything the guy who was representing judo did beyond the takedown was clearly trained Brazilian jiu jitsu. The sport of judo does not include armbars. And the guy who was taken down was very lowly trained, if at all. They’re both very intense martial arts and you’re just another fat keyboard warrior that thinks his opinions on something he’ll never have the balls to do himself actually carry any weight at all.
@@SegevSurfcastingShJJJ is just JJ bruv
@@SegevSurfcastingSh bro judo is a wayyyy better version of japanese jui jitsu
A highly technical Judo player is something to marvel at…
You don't play martial arts
He's also BJJ. Don't believe everything you see.
Player? Its not baseball buddy they fight
@@danoliver3470 You obviously never have. A Judo practitioner is known as a “judo player.”
@@danoliver3470it’s funny watching people know nothing about a subject try and correct others
that arm transition after the throw is flawless
Look up Tom and Jerry nonoplex splitty halfback if you also want to see something nonsensical.
@@user-kr3sy8so5cmid
Yes flawless
@@sstills951 Goofy bich. You're profile pic is a female dog so I'm addressing you as such.
@@sstills951look up special needs black dwarf bondage painful if you want to see something crazy
That judo throw will daze u for 5 seconds
That arm bar was sick 🔥
On a hard surface, that match is over about five seconds faster.
Not unless someone is wearing a big ass gi on the streets
Winded 9/10 times 😅
@@askiieszz
Your shirt will do just as good
@@freedom_born Good thing i never wear clothes 🗿
@@_honestly_7015
Your chest hair will do just as good*
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Realistically one solid judo takedown on concrete is more valuable in a real world fight scenario compared to a BJJ submission. If you have a chance to learn both, start with Judo.
shit imma get mah ass whooped on grass rip
judo origin was originally made for killing an armored samurai with no weapons
コンクリートで投げられたら息が出来なくなります😭 危険です😅
People should do whatever interests them. It doesn't matter what they start with. The exercise and training from either one... or boxing, kickboxing, etc. are all better than sitting on the couch.
I disagree. If you want to get into martial arts for self defense, wrestling is the best one to learn first.
That is possibly the best Ippon Seoi Nage I've ever seen. Perfection👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
That transition was so clean, I can’t stop watching it.
That type if scramble is exactly what high level combat is all about.
Hugging and grabbing isn't high level combat, looks like they both would get knocked out if someone wanted their jaw to meet their hand. In a real fight, all these grapples would be Muut. Simply for show, not even real combat. Who the fuck finds hugging and groping to be intimidating or spectacular?
@@ShadowTwister28the Roman’s, the Greeks, the Spartans, the Persians, and every country that created a wrestling team after the Greek pankration became the Olympics. Hitting people in the face is great but when you slip or fall or get knocked down it’s beneficial to know how to get up quickly or to snap some legs while you’re down. All fighting has value only a wimp who gets clocked easy doubts fighting styles. Guarantee I know some old tai chi head that would would you water style😂
If there was a scramble, it was purely one-sided!!! The dude in the blue was completely outclassed!!! 😮😮😮
#Wrestling
Wrestlering and Judo are almost the same. I think jaja😂 but a wrestler that has learned Judo is a monster 💪🙌🐓
@@fortinovaldez4342 judo is Japanese wrestling.
Man that technique and finish was sublime
Bjj fighter have a worst guard😅.
Then a mf
That went EXACTLY how I thought it would. Lol
That toss was perfect, Judo guy kept away from BJJ’s shoot and attempts at leg locks.
Imagine that shoulder toss on the concrete. Guaranteed game over
Only if you hit head first or if your a wuss..😂
Ye, judo is forbidden on the street we’re all taught that. Death is a certainty one wrong move and you’re a killer and in jail
@@idunno4real nothing is forbidden on the street.
Nothing is forbidden in a street fight. Just because you think you're barred from doing something, doesn't mean the other guy thinks that. Everything is fair on the street, no matter what you've been led to believe.
@@casz7098 true NGL. But judo is not to be used in offense , there is a reason we use Matt’s, break fall, gi, etc. respect for life, unless your life is threatened I would never use my judo in a street fight over pride. I k ow my pride can get someone killed or land me in jail. So only when I or my family is threatened will I ever drop your ass on concrete with standing seonagi
That is the real Judo. He has very good NeWaza regardless of how he learned it.
Exactly. Judo is a complete martial art, including strikes. Little known fact. It’s just that the strikes are extremely dangerous and lethal.
He was also a brown belt in bjj at the time the video was taken, he is also a top fighter as well. So when it comes to one or the other both have their uses in many situations
@@johnathonlivingston7573 if judo is a complete martial art why did the black belt in judo bother with learning jui jitsu. He's also a brown belt in jui jitsu. The details people always leave out or don't know. Of course the judo player has a huge advantage in throws but don't forget he's also a brown belt in jui jitsu once it hit the ground
@@billhartman5120Judo also has comprehensive ground game bro..
Most people are familiar with Judo throws from seeing it in Judo competitions. But Judo has ground game, submissions, and even striking. BJJ’s ground game came from Judo, although BJJ more fully developed and favored the guard. The Judoka likely crossed trained because a lot of Judo schools emphasize throwing for competition over ground game.
That Judo throw was CLEAN AF!
Man, that inside step for that judo throw was so quick and perfect.
Bro manhandled him like he was a sack of potatoes. Incredible flip.
Like Khamzat did to Holland
I was told, a long time ago, and I'm in my 50's, that you should learn two things: (1) Judo, so you learn what it feels like to be thrown to the ground, how to fall, how to recover, and how to throw other people around; and, (2) Boxing, so you learn what it feels like to get punched, how to recover, how to tolerate it, that you should get back on your feet, and how to throw your own punches. Master those two and you'll be formidable.
Maybe instead judo wrestling would be better.Judo depends on cloathing gripes.
@Krugmatikwing chun better than boxing? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 nice joke🤡
Judo has one big flaw, i just have to take my jacket and top off. But there are a few jacket wrestling techniques, the most popular used to be Irish wrestling, Judo was invented and has a lot of the same throws as Irish wrestling, but goes for submission rather than pin. I think getting kicked in the leg is important to know too.
@Krugmatik ok show me any proof of that bc i can show u FAKE WING CHUN FRAUD MASTERS GETTING WHOPPED AND EXPOSED. 😂
@Krugmatik shall i saw you how MMA destroyed your so called imaginary self defense BULLSHIT USELESS WING CHUN. 😂
The setup was beautiful. Note he controls the hip toss hand until dude tries to fight for it then alternates smoothly to an armbar. Flawless
Bro went Paul Phoenix mode.
The way Judokas bring you to the floor is beautiful and subtle, almost poetic.
You need to revisit the dictionary
Judo translates to Gentle way
Yep, the subtle-iest way to fold someones clothes with them still inside
@@stevec1788 my bad Dr Shakespeare, English isn't my first language. A friend of mine has a theory about people like you «The Grammar Bullies»: The end up in Hell making the hardest dictation for all eternity🤣🤣🤣
Nothing subtle about that. He was aggressive AF
BJJ: we are the best
Judo: you know we made you
The judo guy is a brown belt in bjj you dork.
They teach arm bars in Judo ? WTF are you smoking ?
@@user-kb7ue7hg2yat the time of the clip judo practitioner was brown belt in bjj
@@user-kb7ue7hg2ythey do, even feet, leg and knee ones but they are not allowed in almost all judo competitions because it’s easy to ger carried away especially with flying knee bars
@@user-kb7ue7hg2y Yes actually. Bjj is judo with less takedowns and more back work.
The judoka technique was muah chef kiss, so perfectly done it could be a picture for a book
Love how you can see the guy say “fuck” as he he gets up from the submission
Best part lol
Hahaha, I didn't see it until I read your comment. Hella funny
Get your ears checked and maybe pay attention to the ref. What you heard was the referee say STOP
По русски слово "Блять" звучит первым в начале ролика. 😂
@RichyRich2213 hey genius he didn't say he heard it. If you watch the guy in the blue he clearly says "fuck" as he's getting up. It's called reading lips. He's not talking about the ref
Huge respect to the bjj guy for not dragging his ass
He’d have to bring a 🔫 to that fight in order to win 😂
Exactly, he knew what he was up against and still went toe to toe
Which one is the BJJ guy?
@@AnonosaurusRex1 Blue gi
@@AnonosaurusRex1the one that got whooped
He is so composed and straight to the point. 💯
That over shoulder uchimata was magestic damn
Judo is beastmode. Trained a lot when I was younger. It is so effective in close combat.
One on one, yes.
@@TS-rb2zl Not necessarily true, especially if you have been training for 'contest Judo' rather than 'club Judo'; club judo being more pure kata based.
No break fall from the bjj guy. That must have knocked the wind out of him.
It's been my experience that if you throw a bjj guy in a match, you get about three free seconds before they recover.
Because they don't know how.
Gotta slap that mat!!!
Yeah, I’m surprised by that. I remember the countless hours to doing repetitive break fall practices on the mat by yourself, to the point where you don’t think to do a break fall - it’s a reflex.
@@EpicBenjo if he done the break fall he wouldve lost the grip and a chance to take back
That armbar killed me I felt his pain
Dude stole that combo straight outta Rhonda Rousey’s UFC playbook lol. The big difference being in a full-fledged fight, I’m betting the dude also has a stand-up game.
As a practitioner of goju, we call that 'air time' you rethink your life in those moments
I went flipping airborne in football practice once and landed flat on my back so hard, it knocked all the air out of me and nearly knocked me out. I woke up with the team in a circle looking down on me like a movie scene when they film the inside of a huddle. It was comical how landing that hard stunned me like a car crash dummy. lol.
First I've read of Goju. I know black belt taekwondo and she says never heard of it, others have said the same. I took Goju classes long ago for about a year. No one knows about it.
Judo is probably the only martial art I've ever actually used on the street and it was very effective.
Not only that, but also judo is the only martial art I know that looks the same in the streets as in the movies too
Same.. Although it wasn't technically the street, it was high-school, inside outside nearby around, on the oval blah blah blah
Democracy manifest….you know ur judo well
He was a good uke for
Lol bullshit.
That boy had a reawakening and change of heart
As soon as the Judo guy had a grip on his gi it was all over.
I was half expecting the BJJ black belt to immediately pull guard and lay on his back.
He’s not a Gracie. 🤣🤣🤣
The Judo practitioner brought the agression - Id love to see a full set from these two
"I knew getting my Black Belt online would be some BS... i just knew it.."
The blue gi guy and the announcer said WOW at the same time.
Respect to the BJJ fighter for actually taking him on and not just sitting on his ass
Mickey
Why? Judo’s only notable skill is winning the toss. If sitting is all it takes to defeat an entire sport then I think that says enough.
these days, judokas have an unimaginable inferiority complex towards BJJ, surely because their sport has run out of steam.
but know one thing my crybabies, 90% of judoka black belts are twisted by jjb black belts. most of you are average in throwing and have no level in newaza. don't compare yourself with Jeff who is in the top 10% of judoka and a jjb black belt.
@@DoggosAndJiuJitsu do u even know that judo origins from jj? So u would know that the floor fight is equally deep in judo
@@PadreMaronnolo I do know that. So please explain why the fight is over when with an Ippon or two Waza Ari. No ground game required. No sub required.
That takedown attempt by the guy in blue is peak bjj 😂
Bro came PREPARED
The whole sequence from picture perfect throw, to ‘man handling’ the BJJ guy like a sack of coal, then to arm lock submission was pure text book illustration of 💯 martial art effectiveness
Growing up learning traditional taekwondo, we've always been told, kick hard, kick fast and end the fight. There's no time to fly and jump around like an idiot. Don't ever let anyone grab you and if you see the sky, you're screwed. None of us cared to take the takedowns and locks seriously until we had an open sparring match against judokas. We got the shit knocked out of us hard one of us actually shat when he was slammed. Needless to say, we bucked the hell up after that.
😅😅😅😅😅 it was the "shat" part for me
I did taekwondo as a kid. It was utter shit
@@bobbybird9433 in today's context, I have to agree that you're right. There is no resemblance to what I learnt and what I see nowadays.
why taekwondo emphasis so freaking much in kicking?
what happened to hands?
😂😂
@@crunchynetto6979 That's a good question. Sadly, I can't answer that though. I was taught to use my hands. The amount of conditioning we did to our hands were ridiculous.
I was on the Army Taekwondo team in the early 00s.
We would travel around Korea teaching taekwondo to troops and putting on shows.
In 2005, at Camp Stanley Korea, I met a katusa that was some kind of world champ in judo.
He absolutely destroyed the whole team.
To this day I have never seen someone manhandle grown men like that. It was truly incredible.
テコンドーには無理
Taekwondo? LOL
@Brian-bc8ds yup just taekwondo. It's required that all soldiers stationed in Korea attempt to earn a belt. Something about an intermingling of cultures. I was super athletic and could do some nifty kicks and tricks so they asked if I was interested.
I had never taken it before. It was an awesome experience spending 8 to 10 hours a day, 5 days a week for a year of my life dedicated to taekwondo.
@@ICantBelieveItsNotJesus that sounds awesome
My judo dojo also taught taekwondo classes. Once you reached a certain rank in either judo or taekwondo, you were allowed to join a Japanese jujitsu class. When the taekwondo people would spar with the judo people during jujitsu class, the judo people would destroy them. Every. Time.
That judo black belt is definitely a jiujitsu guy too
That 'hip toss' would knock anyone out on concrete.
Only if you hit your head.
@@justinsmith4562 Evident that you don't know what you're talking about. If someone ragdolls you like this unto concrete, you're done.
@justinsmith4562 nope. That onto the head on concrete could kill not ko. The way he hit the ground with no break fall if that was concrete he'd be making a whole bunch of man moans
@@madsulrik5rsno, most judo throws cause you to land on your shoulder or back, not your head
@@vivelachocha2751nope, see above
I practiced combat samo for 20 years before I moved to N. America and I was amazed how little BJJ black belts know
Fellow Combat Sambo practitioner here. It's a fantastic art for the psyche, transformed how I go about everything in day to day life. I was once training with a man who told me an old Sikh proverb from their martial art (I forget the name of it right now) but, it says;
"When we stop breathing, we stop living."
I took a great deal from that. Take care my friend, best wishes from the UK
BJJ is Business Ju Jitsu.....
Totally agree. Bjj is a business for middle class people. The training method keeps them safe but makes them believe they are killers . The arrogance that goes with it is ridiculous.
That's that shoulder throw that Ryu and Ken be doing in Street Fighter
That toss was a thing of beauty.
The smiles on the other players tells me they couldn’t believe this either
Bjj gayest martial art
Judo has to win
That inside turn OMG
Players? Is this a video game or something? They are called combatants.
@@boogityhoo7452 in bjj and Judo contests they are called players.
That's actually one of the cleanest Ippon Soi Nages I have seen so far in my life.
Yeah that was as tight as that gets.
The finish was not so great, there are many better examples
2 by 4 or crowbar works to. I personally am to old for physical combat so my choice would have to be a 12 gauge. 😂
@@Sam-uf4zpRespect lol
@@ifitwasmeitwasyoutoo7963I agree but if you finish it like in judo you give up your back
“Who give him black belt? We must check this brother”
man that judo guy is so fast what a master
Usually the guy scooting on his butt is the BJJ.
Yeah, some real self-defense right there .
That how Brazilian men get a Brazilian
Can’t be thrown if you’re already on the ground😅
Seems like someone has black belt in BJ
@@palerider2020 😂
Judo guy was all over him. Had no chance.
I’ve been thrown a few times, takes a few seconds to get your head right.
Rag dolled him
Not on a padded floor lol. Bjj guys are whimps
On the street you won't get up after a throw like that. Not a few seconds.
@@zato6226 Yeah I can defo see that. After a good throw, I can see people becoming very compliant after that.
@@balooojeffersong4234 Except... the judoka guy IS a bjj guy too, lmao.
"Ah yes, that's a nice arm bar sir, I see you know your Judo well!"
That throw was perfect
Ippon baby! What a classic Judo throw.
I said it when he hit the mat😂
That judo shoulder throw was beautiful
judo for sure is one the most ruthless and practical sports -- definitely the top martial art in ruthlessness, practicality and efficiency
That throw was fast...unbelievable
"I don't know you...That's my Purse!!!"😂😂😂BH
LMFAO! A lot of people may not get that but I do! 😂😂😂
Bobby hill lol
That judo flip was CLEAN!!!
I was expecting the BJJ guy to do the typical pull guard, glad to see there are atleast some that doesnt resort to disrespectful moves
Judo the art of folding clothes while your opponent is still in them
That was a beautiful throw and finish. It is not vs anything just a guy who understood the arts very fluid.
Remember judo is not a fighting art its a defense art
"Use your opponent's strength against him." -- Kano Jigoro
You can "cobra kai it" and use it as a fighting art.
He gave a mic drop. She gave a jaw drop.
With the judo throwing the opponent you can literally hear the organs bouncing
That was really nice, that the bjj man didn't just sit down
Thos3 cowards
Jiu Jitsu is ground fighting try and keep up.
@@peterduncan8161Yeah, but you usually start a fight standing up, unless you BJJers crawl everywhere? 😂
@@GonzoTehGreat That's really only a thing in BJJ competitions. You still learn takedowns in Jiu Jitsu it's just that in a lot of the bigger competitions you're not penalized for being on bottom. The whole "BJJ GUYS CRAWL ON THEIR ASS" thing is kinda blown out of proportion.
@@fisherthegoat I've practised both Judo and JJJ for several years, but not BJJ, however I'm aware they ALL teach take downs. Unfortunately, some BJJ practitioners try to exploit competition rules, which unsurprisingly reflects badly on their sport, especially now that fights are often recorded and shared on the Internet
the guy on the back put his both Hands up and then holds to his head. I appreciate your reaction dude.
His timing was impeccable. It’s not often you can spar against someone equally elite and catch them off guard. Fantastic job!
Not timing really, blue simply is way too relaxed in his stance and grip.
Just love seeing good clean combat. 👍
is not just the through thats good the way he defended his back during and after is awesome
The great Don Frye was asked why he never trained bjj , his reply , I got a black belt in judo , why would I want to learn watered down judo ? Love Don he was a beast .
Cool quote, but I’m not sure it applies to this video since both guys are world class bjj professionals
@@user-ok7yl2ym5n hi , think about it , two bjj guys , one wins with a judo throw ???
That must explain why Judo lost. 😭🤡
@@travissnyder8277 judo lost ???? Touched a nerve did I boyo ???
@@user-ok7yl2ym5n think about it , two bjj guys one used a great judo throw to get on top ??? Sorry to burst your bubble but bjj does have flaws .