What's The Difference Between Crossing GRAD and UNDERGRAD in a NPHC D9 Organization? | Shea Miller
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- Happy Hump Day! I've seen this question A LOT and hopefully this answers any questions you may have. In short, I think the only difference is in the time of the opportunity. Many of my closest sorors actually crossed grad and go so hard for our organization.
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Hey Soror! I came through grad when I was 23, so I was relatively young. I've been in the org for years now. Your comments were spot on. I had some of these concerns before I joined my grad chapter and honestly it wasn't a big deal. A soror is a soror regardless. What matters is service to all mankind!
Exactly! 💚
Great info! A lot of military ladies don’t do college in a traditional way and therefore never have a chance to pledge. I got my masters and retired and looking at pledging. A few of my GF, who were military too and are in sororities, have spoke to me about it not being too late lol. Thanks for doing this video.
Shea, I really enjoyed your video. It's insightful. I think the BLUF (bottom line up front) is that members are members and how you get there really doesn't matter. Thanks for the video. Looking forward to the next one (and catching up on others).
Thank you so much for what you do, I love your honesty. This video was the confidence booster I needed to make my dream (that started at a young middle school kid) become reality. Keep of the great work.
You brought up some things I never thought of, good job!
You always find a way to add a fresh perspective! Side bar, inquiring minds would love to know the details about your hair!
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Great explanation! 💯💯
Great video. I too have had my most memorable moments with members of Alumni Chapters.
You nailed this!!!! From a devastating diva of DST
Thank Shea! Great advice!
Further information I needed thank you
great video...I've been watching your videos and I really like your content on NPHC...keep the videos coming...P.S. - I love your hair in this one.
Love the video and love the hair.
Hi! I stumbled across your video and wanted to let you know I think your spirit is beautiful!
Well stated Soror!
This was super insightful! Thanks. Subscribed! ❤️
Thank you! 💚
Great video girl....
lol I forgot about the term "natives" in undergrad. Just your use of that word flooded me with memories. LOL
beautiful.. love your spirit
Thank you! 💚
Good video Soror!
What if you are a graduate student and crossed as a graduate member? How do you suggest to connect with the people in your org at the university? I don’t really know all the “fun stuff” as I would put it and there is a disconnect... I don’t wanna overstep my boundaries because it is not my chapter, but I go to school there as much as all the other members. Is there even a way to navigate this? Or do I just represent in my own fashion?
It's all in-take!! Give me a break!!!
Nice!
Good video sister greek...they may ask which chapter did you join or at which university. Then they'll know if you came in grad or undergrad. And you're right, most people that came in undergrad do no work. A lot of times they never joined the grad chapter after graduating or not financial.
I would suggest not saying "most people that came in undergrad do no work" unless you have statistics to back it up since I have a different experience than that which you state and have been in various grad chapters due to moving to different states/areas within the state, and see it quite differently. In addition, I don't accept when political figures say “most” or “all”, without facts (yes I fight political figures via documented evidence) therefore when I hear unqualified statements elsewhere, I speak up and suggest qualifying a person’s answers with evidence.
Note: I have close friends in all of the divine nine (D9)
What does "a lot of times they never joined the grad chapter after graduating or not financial" (I am quoting directly from your grammar) mean to you, since qualifying such a statement is more productive than making unsubstantiated claims.
* You could also consider the fact that even if they are not active in a graduate chapter whether or not they have the finances to be active?
* Are those women who went over undergrad actively participating in their communities?
*I ask that you consider that there could be a host of factors limiting and/or restricting those members which you reference who crossed undergrad, from being active in a graduate chapter
Additionally, I was made undergrad and it could depend on "when" people were made so I take offense to this particularly since my entire line (those who are not ivies beyond the wall) have been active in grad chapters almost the entire 30 years we have been members, as well as our chapter's members.
Silver Soror - Active Spr '88
Thank you so much for this video! I was unfortunately rejected for undergrad for petty reasons and this made me so excited to pursue grad chapter
Is grad chapter for someone who missed the opportunity in college and is 23
Is there a difference in alumni chapter and grad chapter?
I would like to pledge but my school is predominantly white. When I looked up info on a site called rate my sorority it basically said that the sorority I want to join is an active chapter but kind of non existent so I’m not sure how this could possibly work. I will be 37 when I try to pledge this fall and I’m wondering if I need to wait until I graduate 😔
Is there any contact information on the site? Like an advisor? Shoot them an email if so and see if you can figure it out.
When I was an advisor I literally dug soooo deep to try to get this group back for some students lol I was all on MySpace pages (and this was like 3 years ago MAX) trying to figure out what happened to the chapter lol. Or see if you can reach out to a local graduate chapter to see if they can point you in the right directions.
Do they haze you in grad chapter? Do they teach you how to step in grad chapter?
I was literally looking this up all week 💀
Glad you found it & hope it helped!
how should one respond to the question from an active member at a public graduate/alumnae chapter event if you are interested in joining? Is it best to be honest or should you only tell the members you are closer to about your interest? I’m planning on going to events solo and I’m scared that question will come up
I don’t think anyone would honestly ask you that tbh. Not at a “public” event. I would be selective in openly expressing interest .. you being as a non-member will make it clear that you’re interested. Try not to steer a convo in that direction too soon .. it’ll get there!
i love your videos. what’s the stigma again grad chapter vs undergrad? i’m really looking to a sorority but there isn’t an active chapter on my uni & i’ve been talking to the local grad chapter back home but i have a really good greek friend and they told me i shouldn’t do grad chapter.
What you do is your choice. That friend of yours isn't being helpful, in my opinion. Don't put much attention on "how" to join the sorority, but rather "why" you want to join in the first place.
Thank you! Not sure why they would tell you not to do grad chapter. Are they financial? Probably not, which is why they would recommend against it ... however that’s bogus to me.
The primary stigma is that going grad is “easier” ... but that’s not necessarily true. Idk I wouldn’t let your good Greek friend steer you away if you’re interested. I would never tell someone “not” to go grad.
Advice is just that (take what helps you and consider the source), so here's what you can consider:
1. your univ doesn't have an active chapter therefore it sounds like your current option is grad (unless the undergrad becomes active again)
2. if your friend who is greek told you to wait to get married because you should spend 50k on a wedding but you want to budget your money and spend 10k on a wedding and use the remainder for a house down payment would you accept that advice?
3. does your friend belong to a grad chapter and/or as Shea said, are they financial - or are they consistently committing to community service?
4. if your heart is in it and you believe in the service portion of greekdom, it is your choice to go undergrad or grad and that is your decision since only you know whether or not you will be an active member regardless as to how you become a member
5. I do not know what your designation is in school (sophomore, junior, or senior) however, if you are limited due to the inactive undergrad chapter, you can look at events for local grad chapters if you are going to stay in that area or the grad chapters in an area that you are likely to associate with (your hometown) and attend their events so they get to know you and see that you are interested (particularly if you are say a senior)
6. consider your finances since wanting to be in a sorority and financial capacity really needs to be considered (you want to be active as much and as long as possible)
7. don't ever let anyone stop you from doing something that is in your heart and can benefit you particularly when they already have their letters
Silver Star Soror of AKA, - ACTIVE
Spr '88
There are multiple grad chapters in my city, over 8 I believe. Is it ok to attend events, volunteer, and show interest in the same sorority but multiple grad chapters of that sorority in my city?
kymgreen29 great question 🤔
It's no problem to visit multiple chapters, when you're getting your "feel" for the chapters that are out there..But at some point, you need to narrow it down to one particular chapter (no more than two) so that you can really get to know the members. And then hopefully at least one of the will extend an invite for membership.
I’m 44 and would definitely feel dumb as hell joining undergrad. How I would look on a line with my salt n pepper gray hair? 😂
Thanks!!! Love the hair!!
Thank you! 💚
Hello, I’m interested in joining an undergrad sorority but I got into an argument with a couple of the ppl in the sorority. It wasn’t on purpose but they came for me and I stood my ground. I have now transferred and am still interested in joining. Do you think that situation will hender me from being accepted??
Try getting to know the people at your new school; however, be involved in community services, keep your grades up, and show leadership skills at the same time. There is a possibility that if someone from your previous school has connections at your current school there will be some negative chatter, but you will have to keep moving forward and play it by ear because it may not affect your chances at all. Time will tell. I would recommend savvy in how you address conflict moving forward: wisdom is key.
Is going grad considered joining in graduate school or post-bachelors degree?
Post-bachelors degree
Is it bad to message the graduate chapter to express interest? I moved to an area that has only one graduate chapter and they don't often have events. I do not know anyone in the chapter but I am still interested.
What you may want to do, is contact them via a contact email or even on social media if that's the only route..And tell them that you'd love to attend and support some of their upcoming events, and ask if they have an event calendar to view.
@@maleahoward8265 thank you
What the difference between joining in college verse alumni chapter
That’s what the video is about! 🙃
Hello, I am a senior and I want to pledge, but I am also a four year veteran of the United States Navy. Do you believe it would be more beneficial if I went the graduate route?
I made the comment about being a veteran to say that I am a bit older than most undergraduate students.
It doesn't matter . There are sisters who come in at age 50
One of my undergrad sorors was 35 and our line ages ranged from 18-22, basically, we were straight outta HS whereas she came into Undergrad her freshman at age 26, Good luck. I hope this helps.
Age isn’t a requirement so don’t feel as if you have to wait for graduate. If the opportunity presents itself and you feel comfortable, definitely go for it. I’ve seen women 50+ cross in to my org in undergrad.
So if I was to attend grad school… would I be attempting to join their undergrad chapter or just the grad chapter. Would one school have both?
If you are in grad school, you will pursue grad chapter. Undergrad chapters are for thosec college students working on their bachelor degrees.
Does anyone have a copy of your letter of intent, I need some help and Ideas
Google “letter of interest”. That helped me.
I'm interested in pursuing a graduate chapter however I would also like to attend cosmetology school M - T 5 - 10. Is being in a graduate chapter similar to being "on line" would cosmetology school hinder me from joining a graduate chapter?
I will not assume you have an undergraduate degree since you did not state such -
General Info for all of the NPHC sororities (this information was taken from and is based on averages, not exacts, since each sororities requirements vary)
:
1. Currently enrolled at a four-year college or university that meets the Sorority’s accreditation standards (do your research on the specific sorority of your choice) - thus an associates degree does not qualify
2. Must have earned on average at least a 2.7 grade point average on a 4.0 scale or the grade point average required on the campus you are located, whichever is higher.
3. Must have earned on average at least twenty-four (24) Credit Hours at the college or university where membership is being sought (again, do your research on the specific sorority of your choice)
4. All undergraduate members are required to maintain (on average) a 2.5 on a 4.0 scale grade point average after membership intake into a Sorority.
5. Most if not all of the sororities require that if you apply within say three (3) years after graduating with the bachelor’s degree, you must have either earned at least a 2.7 grade point average on a 4.0 scale for the bachelor’s level degree or earned an advanced degree such as a master’s or professional degree.
6. An Undergraduate transcript is required to confirm eligibility for membership into a graduate chapter
7. Must demonstrate a commitment to community service - extremely important for grad/alumnae chapters
Do your research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brenda Rhymes you really have to have a bachelors degree and be a graduate of a 4 year university to join graduate chapter of a sorority I have already looked at that
Pledged freshman year in college. Difference I saw when I went grad. I was building a career and moving all over the country. I did not enjoy my grad experience in my 20's. The average age was 50 and since I was the only young one with no children or husband they worked me like a slave. I also know several members who could not get in, in undergrad for a solid reason and they take the grad route. The experience is different. Undergrad is a better experience since Greek orgs were created for COLLEGE students.
How did you pledge freshman year? 🤔 Typically, for most of the D9 orgs, undergraduates are only allowed to pledge their sophomore year on up.
If you were grad, it would be post undergraduate.
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Hi!! Can a undergrad member in a chapter invite me as a graduate member?? My university has a undergrad chapter but no graduate chapter.
An undergraduate member would not necessarily be able to “invite you” in as a graduate interest. They are not a member of the graduate chapter.
Undergraduate chapters operate completely separate from graduate chapters .. you have to have a graduate chapter of some sort in order for there to be an undergrad chapter. It’s not at the undergraduate campus.
Does that make sense? Hope that helps.
Thought going grad was more expensive. That’s what I keep hearing
Every chapter, both grad or undergrad is different. Don't let that be your primary focus though.
It is more expensive
@@Queenin06It varies. One is not more expensive than the other.
Its def more expensive. The basic cost run down is on the website
Naw, SPILL THE BEANS ON ESTIMATES. WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU PAYING FOR?
DUES?🤔
It varies .. so there is no realistic right or wrong answer. I’ve heard some people in some orgs say one amount and some people in other orgs say others. Some orgs include fees for future conferences, some orgs don’t. So it all depends on the individual orgs and individual chapters and what they vote for. It could be something as simple as food .. it all varies.
just wondering after seeing your statement - have you ever asked uncle sam to break down what you are paying for regarding your taxes
I smell skating. Paper not = brotherhood/sisterhood
TakeSomeAdvice I smell like U need to stfu 💀
I smell hazing hotline getting called . Get made for social acceptance ? Lol. Learn to think for yourself and mind your business .