The Artistic Parallels (and Differences) between Beyoncé and Usher

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  • @smurfyboy92
    @smurfyboy92 10 місяців тому +356

    I’ve said this in the past, but Usher really could’ve been the male counterpart of Beyonce. A singer who’s a great performer from the 90s while still doing amazing in today’s music landscape. But the difference between Usher and Beyonce is this the quality of Usher’s music as whole never really got better after Confessions, he became stagnant. And he never had a clear vision for his career. Whereas Beyonce was clearly focusing on building a legacy and the quality of her music only for better after each album

    • @OGseoulite
      @OGseoulite 10 місяців тому +18

      Agreed

    • @jeremycollins8045
      @jeremycollins8045 10 місяців тому +20

      I always felt like usher was always her male contemporary, when Beyoncé came out solo usher was still making hits. Even now in 2024 he’s still on the charts 30 years for now.

    • @ZAYA.21
      @ZAYA.21 10 місяців тому +11

      Bey is overrated Usher isn't 🙄

    • @jumpoff3967
      @jumpoff3967 10 місяців тому

      @@ZAYA.21you can’t be the best and overrated find a new word sheep

    • @elijahbeachum1202
      @elijahbeachum1202 10 місяців тому +38

      @@ZAYA.21she not though she is talented just like he is

  • @samsonjones9332
    @samsonjones9332 10 місяців тому +145

    I think the biggest thing with Beyoncé is that she TAKES RISKSSSSSS she doesn’t care if she flops or fail. She will always take a risk no matter what’s against her.

  • @BillieShouseFrazier
    @BillieShouseFrazier 10 місяців тому +167

    The day Beyoncé drop her self title it completely changed the tides completely, there was no comparison after that.

  • @elhectero
    @elhectero 10 місяців тому +32

    I've always thought this about Beyoncé and Usher. They are the male and female version of each other. I'm glad somebody else sees it too.

  • @chandler-scottgreen1358
    @chandler-scottgreen1358 9 місяців тому +21

    This was so well done! I think a major reason why Beyoncé is so highly regarded now is her attention to detail and how well planned out her eras and musical direction is. She might have a song she knows is a major hit but she doesn’t mind sitting on it as long as she needs to so she can release it with a cohesive project!

  • @OpticalSorcerer
    @OpticalSorcerer 9 місяців тому +22

    I've heard before that female artists are more pressured to evolve/change their image and sound more than male artists. While I don't think you should be forced to do anything you don't want to do with YOUR music, male artists could benefit more from experimenting with more sounds/genres.

  • @phillinsogood
    @phillinsogood 10 місяців тому +90

    Ok can we talk about Beyoncé has surpassed her 00’s counterparts Britney, Christina, Pink, Eminem, Shakira, JLO, Timberlake, 50 Cent, Alicia Keys & Usher?
    She was also able to in a way surpass the late 00’s popstars including Katy Perry, Rihanna, Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, & Adele.
    I know a lot of them still had big hits/albums in the 2010’s and even now but Beyoncé seems to be the only major artist from that era that still relevant and in high demand.
    Taylor Swift & Drake seem to be her only competition these days.

    • @kalmanta1824
      @kalmanta1824 10 місяців тому +24

      Besides Madonna and maybe MJ, her longevity in the industry is unrivalled. Some of her competitors on todays charts weren’t even born when she collected hits on hits with DC, and here we are, with her at #1 in the country at this very moment.

    • @phillinsogood
      @phillinsogood 10 місяців тому +12

      @@kalmanta1824 yes longevity that’s the word I was looking for. A lot of artist don’t last long.

    • @daisyyyyw_
      @daisyyyyw_ 9 місяців тому +1

      She passed Mariah too

    • @AngeBiampandou
      @AngeBiampandou 9 місяців тому +11

      ​@@daisyyyyw_Mariah was a bit before her time. She grew up on Mariah. It's more about her peers and the next two generations after her

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 9 місяців тому

      She didn’t surpass Rihanna because she literally sold less than her and is less famous than her.

  • @kng001
    @kng001 10 місяців тому +104

    Beyoncé success and career strategies will be studied 👑 ONE OF ONE

    • @tylerwestbrook2392
      @tylerwestbrook2392 9 місяців тому +4

      I'm number one I'm the only one

    • @flipitmix
      @flipitmix 9 місяців тому

      ​@@tylerwestbrook2392complete garbage of 1

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому

      I hope her stealing from other people’s work especially lyrics and performances because she can’t write shit and claiming a religion and then constantly disrespecting it will be studied as well.

  • @6lackgrlmgc641
    @6lackgrlmgc641 10 місяців тому +57

    What a well-organized video essay!

  • @demjukesdo29
    @demjukesdo29 9 місяців тому +10

    Beyonce really is the best musician of our lifetime

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому

      No, she is not a musician to begin with. She’s a vocalist and a dancer. She’s not a writer because she steals the credits from the people who ACTUALLY write. Same for the music videos and performances. She is a THIEF and even if she doesn’t write, her songs are POORLY written. She’s just an entertainer.

  • @TN-cn8kk
    @TN-cn8kk 9 місяців тому +21

    While there’s clear inspiration of Michael in Bey, I feel she also carries the torch of Tina as well which could play a part in how her career diverged from Usher’s

    • @chriscraven95
      @chriscraven95 3 місяці тому +3

      I feel she carries Prince's touch more than ever

  • @donjai9366
    @donjai9366 10 місяців тому +101

    So the moral of this video is that Beyonce took artistic risks in her career while maintaining relevancy & Usher did not take artistic risks as much as Beyonce did & he did not crossover into different genres. I think Beyonce crossing over into different genres & taking artistic risks has only benefited her because when you reach a star level & become a household name u can crossover & do any genre you want & it will most likely be a successful because you've established yourself as legendary artist & pop culture icon

    • @BroJo676
      @BroJo676 10 місяців тому +8

      Usher took artistic risks with his EDM era.

    • @jakemiles1427
      @jakemiles1427 10 місяців тому +31

      ​@@BroJo676was that a risk when EDM was popular at the time?

    • @BroJo676
      @BroJo676 10 місяців тому +3

      @@jakemiles1427 EDM was not popular with Usher diehard fans. Proof is, they turned their backs on him when that wave waned.

    • @jakemiles1427
      @jakemiles1427 10 місяців тому +17

      @@BroJo676 But is it truly a risk to do what's popular? Isn't that what most artists do? Also he didn't go full EDM he had popular songs like "paper and there goes my baby". Those songs sound more like typical RnB records.

    • @randywalker7840
      @randywalker7840 10 місяців тому +13

      But let’s not just contribute that to her being one of the biggest artist today Beyonce worked her entire life to get to where she is and has always put her craft first. Beyoncé has always put her music first and givin vocals as well as top tier performances she just is that girl and that’s why people stay mad.

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +58

    Had Usher not taken a long break after Confessions the music landscape would be so different rn

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 10 місяців тому +20

      I hate when huge Artist take a long break after a huge album, like that is NOT smart. Like it never works for them at all. I wonder how they always miss that. 😭

    • @phillinsogood
      @phillinsogood 10 місяців тому

      @@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024right it allows more new up and coming artists to take over.

    • @thatomosumo9371
      @thatomosumo9371 9 місяців тому +7

      He should have kept his foot on they necks after confessions.

    • @SR-zv5ue
      @SR-zv5ue 8 місяців тому +1

      @@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Adele did that, its just harder for black artists, the GP likes to forget black artists quickly.

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому

      @@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024Sade did that and her and her band are still great.

  • @jamaimusic6867
    @jamaimusic6867 9 місяців тому +8

    Very insightful. I Grew up to Usher and Beyonce and I'm a Beyonce Stan. I'm an artist and a huge fan of Usher. I love that you pointed out the fact that BEYONCES self titled album was revolutionary not only because of the way she released it, but because before that point she was indeed a lot more conservative. Such a great point that I've always said. Especially compared to Ushers 'I DONT MIND!' Also, it seems more than obvious that Ushers lack of album releases with multiple wasted singles had to be because of label support, or the lack there of. Beyonce has consistently had the same label (and personnel) at Columbia since her DC days. I think usher having so many delayed album releases was due to lack of label support. Good kisser was such a great song with merely no support. Random releases like "A" was so off putting and mediocre. I've always hated that ushers inconsistency started making people compare him to younger artist like CB. Even with all of his mediocre and delayed releases, there has yet to be a male Artist touching his voice, talent, and class. I think the Vegas residency was the greatest thing that could've happened to him because all he had to do was put on a great show. No album, no new music, just put on a great show which is where he will always shine. I am so looking fwd to him reclaiming his spot at the top after that phenomenal half time show.

    • @SR-zv5ue
      @SR-zv5ue 8 місяців тому

      I have a theory that Diddy was blocking Usher in the 2010s, Usher seemed to have separated himself from Diddy at this point and wasn't associating with him anymore and Diddy might have been responsible for lack of label support.

  • @BlueShockwave21
    @BlueShockwave21 10 місяців тому +15

    I think it's also worth noting that the impact of Beyoncé's persona and lyrical content has garnered her an unwavering core fan base. So even when she drops something that's not commercially successful, she remains culturally relevant.
    Since Destiny's Child, she has narrated the frustrations of her core audience in life & love, and has empowered them to be confident and independent. Beyoncé has become a champion of the people, if you will. Beyond her music and performances, people want to see her succeed, and thus have supported her consistently for decades.

  • @naseerwalker8292
    @naseerwalker8292 10 місяців тому +30

    I think it’s also important to mention that Confessions is 14x platinum. That’s a commercial peak that Beyoncé has never even come close too with any of her albums (I think her highest album is 6x) so I think that definitely worked against Usher heavily having did Thriller numbers like that. Setting the bar for himself too high

    • @dawudjibreel6075
      @dawudjibreel6075 9 місяців тому +21

      I disagree. Ushers subsequent albums didnt need to do Confessions numbers to be a success or for his career not to have faltered. He just needed to maintain artistic integrity and not chase trends, have the fortitude to stay true to himself and focus on quality music instead of feeling he had to fit in with younger sounds. Id rather consistently both receive universal acclaim and sell 5 million + for every album over decades than have one Thriller moment and then forever fall off commercially and critically.

    • @mollypercocet1718
      @mollypercocet1718 9 місяців тому +5

      I am Sasha fierce outsold that local album worldwide lmaooo be Fr

    • @manolodemsy1246
      @manolodemsy1246 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dawudjibreel6075 very great take

    • @AngeBiampandou
      @AngeBiampandou 9 місяців тому +10

      ​@@dawudjibreel6075Yup, Usher was definitely no MJ bc MJ was nowhere near a commercial and criticall decline after Thriller. He had Bad and Dangerous after Thriller. It was impossible for him to outsell Thriller but not impossible to maintain his success. He also had a clear artistic direction with his follow ups

    • @AngeBiampandou
      @AngeBiampandou 9 місяців тому +2

      Dangerously is 9× platinum. It sold 9.5 million in the US

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +37

    19:49 exactly and I want people to remember that Beyoncé stuck by R&B with 4, moved into more Hip-Hop led music with BEYONCÉ then started majorly shifting into other genres
    Usher chose EDM leaned into Hip-Hop led music with Hard II Love and “A” and recently in 2024 just came back to making R&B with COMING HOME
    The difference is Beyoncé is not going into popular genres but bringing genres to mainstream and reminding people of their Black origins
    So I never want to hear “Beyoncé abandoned Black people” when her legacy revolves around Black Art with films such as LEMONADE and BLACK IS KING with The Gift Soundtrack
    Usher’s focus musically is himself, even with COMING HOME he said he’s essentially coming home to himself, his motives with these genres aren’t to bring R&B back to the forefront but rather himself, he’s not stepping into Afrobeats to show some form of community but bc it’s popular
    Usher is about what music can do for him
    Beyoncé is about what can she do for music and her community
    But bc she’s a successful Black Woman (who so happens to be light-skinned and bc oof the history of colourism they don’t trust her and it is a very minuscule part her success but also bc she works so hard, each member of DC has said this btw) they’ll choose to hate on her instead of him
    Edit: I think another reason we see this shift in Beyoncé musically is bc she’s been undermined and with her level of success has been in rooms that Usher hasn’t been in where the talk just makes her wanna get Blacker by the second bc of the things she knows they do to undermine Black talent

    • @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
      @bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 10 місяців тому

      I’ll never forget Black People and quite frankly white people (although they were streaming, their was a huge side who hated her), dragging her for Sasha Fierce. She was doing EDM before it was popular and trained people’s ears for it. Ugh, we don’t understand her 2000s intelligence enough for me. Like she was really that girl 😭

    • @thatonzimande8641
      @thatonzimande8641 10 місяців тому +7

      Thank you! Your execution was amazing! Beyoncé honestly doesn’t go with trends but rather sets them. She looks at the current musical landscape and instead of trying to fit in, she tries and succeeds in pushing the envelope. I saw it with 4, everyone was pushing EDM, European house, but she took a gamble and brought back R&B mixed with funk and African influence. Then it all became clear with self titled, even changing the way we receive music. Usher is obviously talented, however, he tends to either remain in R&B and not challenge himself, and when we think he is, he just does a song or two, in a different genre purely for trends. Beyoncé is a pioneer and evolutionist.

  • @naseerwalker8292
    @naseerwalker8292 10 місяців тому +23

    This video was so well done. I love that you started with MJ cause he truly is the shoulders they both stand on. Usher is just as great a vocalist and dancer as Beyoncé however he lacks the visionary component that MJ had and Beyoncé perfected in the late 2010s. Usher got comfortable Beyoncé stayed ambitious.
    However Usher’s Super Bowl, performance reminded us all that there has still been no male artist after him who has surpassed him vocally and as a dancer simultaneously. And that is what makes Usher special.

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 6 місяців тому +2

      They are not equally talented singers or dancers.
      Usher is a superior dancer
      Beyoncé is a superior vocalist by miles.
      Beyoncé has the edge over him for being far more versatile, revolutionary, and visionary with generally better music & singles also.
      MJ was/is the only male beyonce.

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому

      @@cavalrystyles8776She’s not a visionary. People work for her and then she steals their work.

  • @stealurcookies
    @stealurcookies 9 місяців тому +11

    I really wish Usher performed Climax at the Superbowl. That song was a masterpiece!

  • @fentyprint
    @fentyprint 10 місяців тому +126

    i find the usher cameo in “naughty girl” (2004) and the beyonce cameo for the “bad girl” live performance (2005) to be very symbolic for the both of them. excellent video!

  • @MissAlmostFine
    @MissAlmostFine 9 місяців тому +7

    This is a great video!!! Very respectful to both artists involved and pretty honest. I also like to add that Beyoncè's side projects like The Gift/Black is King and Everything Is Love adds more shading and depth to her artistry. Her seemingly fierce determination to highlight beautiful aspects of Black culture and Black musical traditions is just so exciting to watch.

  • @dopeblacktherapist
    @dopeblacktherapist 9 місяців тому +2

    Wow! Thanks for this! I never realized they had so many parallels. Part of me hopes that Usher has something more up his sleeve and he'll surprise us later in this decade 😊

  • @christophermichael8876
    @christophermichael8876 10 місяців тому +22

    I Enjoyed the this video a lot usher is my favorite male artist and Beyonce is of course my favorite female artist and artist of all time love this breakdown and glad you said brother and sister in music I always thought usher and Beyonce were family as well as musical peers I’ll be watching again and love how you took your time with this one seen the title and thumbnail and knew it was gonna be a stellar video usher and Beyonce are legends in their respective fields they had the best teachers/instructors and they were the top 2 students in they’re Michael Jackson, James Brown, Marvin Gaye Tina Turner, Dianna Ross, classes this video just a reminder of they’re greatness and they deserve their flowers well done for this video can’t wait for the next one
    looking forward to your Renaissance Act 2 album review and thoughts

  • @phillinsogood
    @phillinsogood 10 місяців тому +17

    Ok you have to do more
    MJ vs Janet
    Mariah vs Whitney
    Katy Perry vs Gaga
    Britney vs Christina

  • @SoraiaLMotta
    @SoraiaLMotta 10 місяців тому +15

    The art of constant change is really hard to grasp.

  • @JZidor
    @JZidor 10 місяців тому +15

    Yes cuz they like to equate the two she’s queen and he’s king

  • @jabreezy89
    @jabreezy89 9 місяців тому +1

    I love that you made this video because as a multi talented artist myself my musical inspirations have always been MJ, Beyoncé, and Usher at least as all around entertainers. Goes to show I have great taste and know how to pick the right mentors. *pats myself on the back*

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +29

    Usher is The King of R&B
    Luther is The Velvet Voice which is the most suitable honorific title for any artists that I’ve ever heard

    • @phillinsogood
      @phillinsogood 10 місяців тому +2

      Ooooh I like that “the velvet voice”

  • @talitam.8414
    @talitam.8414 9 місяців тому +4

    Beyoncé makes it look so easy but sustaining a music career is EXTREMELY hard. Remaining at the top for decades is close to impossible. Only 0,1 percent of people in that world manage to achieve that. I have such a huge respect for artists, period and more specifically Beyoncé and Usher. They are legends in my book.

  • @terrellgrant1570
    @terrellgrant1570 3 місяці тому

    Just stumbled on your channel I’m a a subscriber now good work sir 👍🏿

  • @phillinsogood
    @phillinsogood 10 місяців тому +3

    Great video per usual!!
    They were both everywhere during the 00’s. The albums, the singles the music video’s & performances; these 2 definitely studied from MJ & Janet.
    Black Excellence

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +10

    This got me thinking about other musical brother and sister combos
    Nicki and Drake
    Ari and The Weeknd
    Adele and Bruno (odd one but think about it)

    • @LeoMes01
      @LeoMes01 9 місяців тому

      How about
      Rapsody and Kendrick

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 9 місяців тому +1

      nah not Pedonika.

  • @coreyo.conner7897
    @coreyo.conner7897 9 місяців тому +2

    This is so well done! Nice editing, archival footage, and distinct narration.. pls continue doing exactly what you're doing! 🙌🏽

  • @mohamedislembarhoumi9832
    @mohamedislembarhoumi9832 10 місяців тому +10

    I believe bey didn't put herself in a box and take more risks in her music

  • @jaewilliams9685
    @jaewilliams9685 9 місяців тому +2

    Usher & Jermaine Dupri singer/producer duo 🔥
    Others who rank high..
    Janet & Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis
    MJ & Quincy
    MJ & Teddy
    Toni Braxton & Babyface
    Brandy & Babyface
    Brandy & Rodney Jenkins
    Jagged Edge & JD
    Xscape & JD
    Mariah Carey & JD
    Ginuwine & Timbaland
    Aaliyah & Timbaland
    Justin Timberlake & Pharrell
    Justin Timberlake & Timbaland
    & the Hitmen deserve credit for those bops by Total, 112, Faith, & Carl Thomas. Bad Boy R&B run from 96 to 02 rivals the best rnb label runs ever

  • @Freezient
    @Freezient 9 місяців тому +3

    Ok all these years I kept thinking that Usher is a gemini because one of his album, but he’s not lol
    And damn all the Usher disrespect during the superbowl! Everyone just cared about the few seconds cameo of TS, Usher is incredibly underrated and under appreciated . People nowadays don’t care about high quality anymore.

  • @safir8588
    @safir8588 9 місяців тому

    Can’t wait for you to make a video about eternal sunshine!!

  • @samross5599
    @samross5599 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Love both Beyoncé and Usher and so grateful to have grown up with them and see them both become legends!

  • @HumourousGalz
    @HumourousGalz 9 місяців тому +4

    great video Wayne - always looking forward to your content.
    Not sure if this is relevant but I have a theory that after MJ died thats when male artists stopped "showing out" musically and performance wise. Not to discredit their talent and hard work - to me there has always been a clear difference in performances pre MJ & post MJ. When he was alive a lot of male artists looked up to him & would go all the way out to impress him or to be noticed by him. Usher included, but my guess is after MJ they just said 'what's the point?'

    • @fbaallied
      @fbaallied 9 місяців тому +3

      Hip hop I think sucked up all the most successful black male artists post-MJ. Think about it, most of the most successful black male artists in the 2010s were hip hop.

    • @SR-zv5ue
      @SR-zv5ue 8 місяців тому

      Interesting take.

  • @enphynitisymone
    @enphynitisymone 10 місяців тому +3

    15:53 His marriage to his first wife at the time along with his troubled relationship with his mother both played a role with the release of the album, which in my opinion I believe it affected the impact the album could’ve had. People were turned off by who he married considering it was his first public relationship since Chilli. It did good in sales of course, but it’s his least memorable album, again in my opinion.

    • @waynetvofficial
      @waynetvofficial  10 місяців тому +2

      great context. thank you!!

    • @MissAlmostFine
      @MissAlmostFine 9 місяців тому +5

      That situation will always reflect badly on Usher's fanbase. There's no reason he should've had to protect his wife from his own fans, a lot whom are Black women. Just terrible.

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +22

    Imagine an Usher album explaining Black fatherhood
    Like a LEMONADE of sorts where we are breaking generational stigmas of being affectionate and toxic masculinity to show Black children especially sons love from their fathers
    Like that would be revolutionary
    And if it came right after Looking 4 Myself we would’ve gotten an expansion in different sounds
    I think he could do it with his next album but maybe from the perspective of how his new partner showed him how to love not only her but himself and better raise a family then we can do the fatherhood album bc we can’t do a jarring change in sound when he just had his major comeback
    But yet again to keep people interested it might work not copying LEMONADE and doing his own Usher thing

    • @authenticministries2433
      @authenticministries2433 10 місяців тому +1

      Honestly he has a song like that called “Sins of my Father”, but I think people forget that Confessions was propelled by his relationship issues with Chilli and Beyoncé’s Lemonade album and probably even “Beyonce” thrived off of peoples fascination with her romantic relationship. Usher had his worst career moments when he married a woman no one wanted him with! Entertainment is more entertaining when people get to be all in your business and like who you entertain. Look at how big Kanye got after getting with Kim.

    • @LeoMes01
      @LeoMes01 10 місяців тому +4

      I wish more artists would talk about fatherhood. Recently Earl Sweatshirt had a song called 27 braids which is oart of imo a beautiful era in his career that seems to be focussed on healing and celebrating his recovery
      As did Jay on 4 44

    • @authenticministries2433
      @authenticministries2433 10 місяців тому +3

      @@LeoMes01 or Nas song Daughters

    • @LeoMes01
      @LeoMes01 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@authenticministries2433 Father time by Kendrick could've gone there. But it was more about therapy for Kendrick

    • @LeoMes01
      @LeoMes01 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@authenticministries2433 Maybe if cudi had a song about it

  • @SthrnPrettyCiara
    @SthrnPrettyCiara 9 місяців тому

    You fleshed out what I have been thinking since 2005. I've always said this but didn't have the details to back it up. I feel so validated LOL and thus was so well done, thank you! Subscribed!

  • @UltimateAwe
    @UltimateAwe 9 місяців тому

    "No, No, No" hit #3 for Destiney's Child. Great video. Love these artists.

  • @youknowitshecate
    @youknowitshecate 5 днів тому

    21:05 you forgot to mention it was leaked 3 weeks before release. thats the reason it "underperformed"

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +8

    Thank you
    GLU would’ve been a great lead single with more promotion😭

  • @shay8727
    @shay8727 9 місяців тому +2

    The diff between Bey & Usher is Bey has been able to successfully recreate herself time and time again.

  • @youknowitshecate
    @youknowitshecate 5 днів тому

    34:27 he instead fixated on trying to replicate the formula of confessions

  • @123.45-d
    @123.45-d 5 місяців тому +1

    0:46 anyone knows what performance is this with a car behind him?

  • @Amytianaglobal
    @Amytianaglobal 9 місяців тому

    I love how objective you are. A sound mind.

  • @SoraiaLMotta
    @SoraiaLMotta 10 місяців тому +1

    Awesome documentary. 👍👍

  • @alleycat188
    @alleycat188 4 місяці тому +1

    Has anyone listened to an usher album? The man switches genres, like he's changing clothes. I think its crazy how everyone keeps say he doesn't take risk. In fact, i would argue thats why his career didn't take off like beyonce. Besides confession, Usher's albums are all over the place, with no set theme. Both artists follow trends and does whatever is popular at the time (in my opinion) but beyonce will take a trend and make it her own! Usher will just flat out copy the trend, with no inspiration.
    I love both artist regardless ❤

  • @alexhoward1516
    @alexhoward1516 9 місяців тому +1

    Yes Beyoncé and usher everything to me 🥹🥹

  • @dmclaurin
    @dmclaurin 9 місяців тому +4

    Its simple beyonce has fans that will support anything she does do she was aloud to do anything. People criticize usher for doing anything not confessions its not hard. But popularity doesn't equal success. They are very similar in career success. Both of them have done things the other hasnt and never will do

  • @lolitafalana
    @lolitafalana 6 місяців тому

    I need to know where 0:54 is from! Never seen Michael do that before.

    • @waynetvofficial
      @waynetvofficial  6 місяців тому +1

      Bad Tour in Wembley. Human Nature. ✨

  • @SLEEPY-CELESTIAL
    @SLEEPY-CELESTIAL 4 місяці тому

    I need more video of part2 of this video

  • @randywalker7840
    @randywalker7840 10 місяців тому +1

    Loved this video you gained a follower from me as someone who loves Beyoncé and I normally don’t care for male artist but Usher has always been my fav him and Beyoncé are legendary just Beyoncé has challenged herself and her music a lot more then usher has and maybe made better choices but still love him down.

  • @LeoMes01
    @LeoMes01 10 місяців тому +5

    I actually liked no limit
    2017 thug was an animal
    Haha, good times
    But Ushers fall didn't have to happen
    Especially the way it did. And Coming home is imo a really good start to R and B for 2024
    Its kinda amazing that 20 years later we get an artist showing he can still make decent music

  • @toffyluck721
    @toffyluck721 10 місяців тому

    GREAT REVIEW!!

  • @aldon560
    @aldon560 9 місяців тому

    Solid analysis.

  • @phillinsogood
    @phillinsogood 10 місяців тому +6

    I feel like Usher lasted pretty long in the mainstream but faded away because he wasn’t dabbling in different genres besides EDM in the beginning of the 2010’s. He’s become a 2000’s novelty act which is fine because he ran the decade.
    Beyoncé on the other hand was able to stay in the mainstream because she switched it up a lot during the 2010’s & beyond. Also her being Jay Z’s wife also gave her a leg up lol

    • @AngeBiampandou
      @AngeBiampandou 10 місяців тому +2

      What leg up ? She was never under Jay-Z's managment or label. Stop scrambling

    • @phillinsogood
      @phillinsogood 10 місяців тому +2

      @@AngeBiampandou I guess I meant that her being married to another huge celebrity helped her with her image

    • @melinatedthinka8210
      @melinatedthinka8210 9 місяців тому +1

      @@AngeBiampandou you don’t know what you’re talking about

    • @chriscraven95
      @chriscraven95 3 місяці тому +1

      @@phillinsogood Beyonce was a mainstream household name before Jay z. Stop the delusions

    • @phillinsogood
      @phillinsogood 3 місяці тому

      @@chriscraven95 yes I know I’m saying her relationship with Jay helped her get to where she is today

  • @_MYSTICWOLF
    @_MYSTICWOLF 10 місяців тому +3

    another w video

  • @marknielsbeats
    @marknielsbeats 2 місяці тому

    If it weren't for her loyalty to the group, she wouldve been popping alot sooner. But im glad it turned out the way it did. She would've been competing with Ashanti, Aaliyah, Lil Mo, Mary J, back in the 90s, 00s.

  • @lissandrafreljord7913
    @lissandrafreljord7913 9 місяців тому +5

    Beyonce is the more complete artist.

  • @creolito9600
    @creolito9600 10 місяців тому +2

    9:50 technically destiny child didn’t officially disband, they were on a hiatus and just never came back lmao

  • @SavāgeBückeṭ
    @SavāgeBückeṭ 6 місяців тому +1

    Where did things go wrong for Usher? In my opinion, he let his mum go as his manager too soon. After Confessions, he got a new manager

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +2

    Could we possibly do a musical comparison of actual siblings
    THE GREATEST SIBLINGS OF MUSIC:
    Michael and Janet
    The Jacksons (not to be confused with their group)

  • @Amytianaglobal
    @Amytianaglobal 9 місяців тому +1

    My personal take away is this; TAKE RISKS!

  • @jenaestewart5299
    @jenaestewart5299 3 місяці тому

    Usher peak early I think honestly usher got especially after being 2nd most watched superbowl all time

  • @kareemeverison
    @kareemeverison 9 місяців тому +4

    I wishe people would stop comparing that woman to MJ 🙄

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому +2

      Beyonce is beyonce

    • @kareemeverison
      @kareemeverison 9 місяців тому +3

      @@HibaraBonde exactly she is herself she ain't MJ she ain't no where on MJ level

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому +1

      @@kareemeverison she is beyonce .A star vocalist and best performer alive .acclaimed director .filmmaker

    • @mollypercocet1718
      @mollypercocet1718 9 місяців тому

      Right, she’s not a pedo

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому

      @@HibaraBondeShe’s not a director or a filmmaker. Stop inventing things.

  • @ShaneCM
    @ShaneCM 10 місяців тому +12

    They are very similar. But his father was not over the urban department at Columbia like Beyonce’s dad. Also Bey made better personal choices image and marriage wise. To me, he actually has better songs, even after confessions but his fans stopped listening.

    • @nopestopitplz6079
      @nopestopitplz6079 10 місяців тому +8

      This is a very misogynistic comment. I'm not sure if you meant it that way, but attributing Bey's success to men by mentioning her father and husband is very derogatory and disgusting. I don't know if you paid attention to the video, but he makes it clear that their artistic divide happened during Beyonce's 4 era. I thought it was very well known that her 4 album was when she took full creative control after she had fired her father. Not to mention, Matthew Knowles was legit never employed by Colombia - he was solely Bey's manager. Lastly, of course you can prefer Usher's music over hers, but I think you're ignoring the fact that Beyonce has 3 of the most critically acclaimed albums of the 21st century - and even of all time. Then again, you did say songs. So are you saying that Usher is more of a singles artist while Bey is more of an albums artist?

    • @creolito9600
      @creolito9600 10 місяців тому +4

      Beyoncé makes real albums when usher just make a compilation of singles that’s why he fell off, compare renaissance with coming home u can see the stark difference in artistry nothing to do with marriage

    • @AngeBiampandou
      @AngeBiampandou 10 місяців тому +4

      I guess taking the misogynistic route is easier than coping with the fact that Usher has no clear creative direction and artistic vision in the making of his albums especially post Confessions/post L.A Reid, Jermaine Dupri and Bryan Michael Cox behind him while Beyoncé took full creative control over her music after firing her dad almost 15 years ago now, actually grew and NEVER fell off since

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому

      @@creolito9600Beyonce doesn’t make anything. People write for her, she sings the songs and then steals the credits.

    • @chantoya17
      @chantoya17 4 місяці тому

      ? LOL I don't know where you heard that Mathew Knowles was over Sony Urban at Columbia back in the day but it's definitely not the truth. He was never the head of any subdivision of a major conglomerate. The only thing he owned and operated was Music World Entertainment, his management company and imprint that Beyoncé/Destiny's Child was under with allowances from the actual record label, Sony/Columbia. A black man that actually did run the Urban sections of Sony was Michael Mauldin, who resided over the black music division of Columbia for many years and who is "coincidentally", Jermaine Dupri's father.

  • @NIJEECAPRICORN23
    @NIJEECAPRICORN23 5 місяців тому

    Beyonce takes risks with her artistry. She also dives into her Southern roots to transcend genres. I think Bday was the era that would create the Surprise Beyonce album with visuals. Lemonade will become her most artistic album.Beyonce pulled from the music history of Louisiana and Texas while taking notes from Janet Jackson, and Tina Turner. Usher doesn't take any risks and I believe this is his weakness. Instead of blending in and doing songs that did not stand out from his peers; he became stagnant. Usher always reminded me of Bobby Brown. You could see some MJ influence in him but Usher was more street. Beyonce is a combo of Tina Turner, Diana Ross, Josephine Baker, MJ and Janet.

  • @cavalrystyles8776
    @cavalrystyles8776 6 місяців тому +1

    Looking 4 myself DID NOT sell 500k first week 😂. It did 128k. It only sold over 500k in total, not first week.

    • @chriscraven95
      @chriscraven95 3 місяці тому +1

      I thought i was hearing things. I knew that album never sold 500K in its first week 😂

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 3 місяці тому

      @@chriscraven95 like I went straight to Wikipedia when I heard that bucket of lies 😂

  • @jackyfrom_usa522
    @jackyfrom_usa522 9 місяців тому

    no they are just in the same category same genre maybe kelly rowland

  • @distinctlydri2831
    @distinctlydri2831 День тому

    Beyoncé is more talented and more creative. Period. Usher can sing and dance. That isn’t enough.

  • @californiabeuaty88
    @californiabeuaty88 9 місяців тому

    Usher also got divorced and remarried that’s a big deal because Beyoncé has been always been with Jay

  • @shaybar93
    @shaybar93 10 місяців тому

    I always wanted Usher and Bey to fall in love.

    • @roger9283
      @roger9283 10 місяців тому

      The chemistry they had while performing bad girl live and the sexual tension between them was either so obvious or I was just making things up into my head 😂 cause same

    • @shaybar93
      @shaybar93 10 місяців тому

      @@roger9283 haha. You did not imagine things. They would have been a beautiful couple.

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому

      He is soft

    • @roger9283
      @roger9283 9 місяців тому

      @@HibaraBonde well she was with jay’z at that time so he didn’t have any chances lol

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому

      @@roger9283 he is soft .she is the boss

  • @joncerda351
    @joncerda351 10 місяців тому

    What about Justin Timberlake?

    • @waynetvofficial
      @waynetvofficial  10 місяців тому +7

      What about him?

    • @joncerda351
      @joncerda351 9 місяців тому +1

      @@waynetvofficial lmao alright enough said.

  • @drag-ha
    @drag-ha 9 місяців тому

    Not you propagating Stan wars. I Stan. YONCE WILL ALWAYS AND FOREVER BEY.

  • @kareemeverison
    @kareemeverison 9 місяців тому

    They're 3 years apart not 4

  • @VideoJAYmer
    @VideoJAYmer 9 місяців тому +2

    I can’t get over you pronouncing jeremih as jeremy

  • @Marc-King777
    @Marc-King777 3 місяці тому

    There is NO comparison to MJ. NO ONE!

  • @jaewilliams9685
    @jaewilliams9685 9 місяців тому

    Other music counterparts...
    Brittany n Justin
    MJ n Janet
    Madonna n Prince
    Whitney n Luther
    Badu n DAngelo
    Mary n Robert 90s to 04.

  • @Hmmm86647
    @Hmmm86647 9 місяців тому

    I feel like he got carried away with making Justin Bieber so now “Justin Bieber music” is all he can make

  • @SideEyeee_
    @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому +2

    23:41 Why is she thanking Jesus-Christ when she doesn’t respect him or his word has had NOTHING to do with her demonic music ? It’s CRAZY.

    • @chriscraven95
      @chriscraven95 3 місяці тому

      Oh hush hater! You're in no position to question her relationship with God. mind your own business

  • @user-yh9jj7ux3j
    @user-yh9jj7ux3j 10 місяців тому

    he doesn't want to let co fessions go 😭😭

  • @irina1296
    @irina1296 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm not a fan of them but at least Usher has some originality and he DOES WRITE his music, unlike Beyonce

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому +3

      Beyonce wrote and co wrote .

    • @SR-zv5ue
      @SR-zv5ue 8 місяців тому +2

      Usher doesn't write his music. Lol. The confessions album was about Jermaine Dupri's breakup, he wrote the record. Usher like Beyonce get their writing credits from vocally arranging the albums and adding a bridge or verse in their music.

    • @monovatherealest
      @monovatherealest 7 місяців тому +3

      Beyonce does write tho. You people accuse her of stealing music, but she literally credits every individual for their contributions, but according to y'all it's IMPOSSIBLE that she ever wrote anything

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 6 місяців тому

      Beyoncé writes MUSIC not lyrics.

    • @chriscraven95
      @chriscraven95 3 місяці тому

      False! Beyonce writes and produces. Stop spreading false claims

  • @gamingwithdream2005
    @gamingwithdream2005 10 місяців тому +5

    I'd love to see a Chris Brown video at some point

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +6

    Ushyoncé😭😭😭😭😭

  • @tb22k
    @tb22k 10 місяців тому +3

    Turn to Jesus

    • @sadefan536
      @sadefan536 10 місяців тому +5

      Turn to a job

    • @tb22k
      @tb22k 10 місяців тому +1

      @@sadefan536 no u do that

    • @sadefan536
      @sadefan536 10 місяців тому +3

      @@tb22k I have one boo I’m not on UA-cam pretending to be a prophet

    • @sadefan536
      @sadefan536 10 місяців тому

      Halloween is over wrap it up boo

    • @tb22k
      @tb22k 10 місяців тому

      @@sadefan536 ok demon get help boo 😒 nobody talking to you

  • @justsaybobby
    @justsaybobby 9 місяців тому

    Nah..... Usher definitely. Beyonce is a descendent of Tina Turner.

  • @ezmereldagerard6999
    @ezmereldagerard6999 9 місяців тому +2

    Beyonce has been stealing songs, videos, music concepts from other artists through out her career. Beyonce has crushed the careers of so many upcoming gifted artists, song writers, choreographers etc...check out what Tiffany Red amoung many others. Usher has not stolen from other artists and has built a successful career with his incredible talent and hard work collaboration with other artists 🎨 and evolving style. Usher is a gifted phenominal performer with incredible voice ! 🎵🎶🎶🎶 ❤ 💚

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому +1

      Lies .beyonce ia just more talented. She overpaid and overcredit everyone .beyonce is now filmmaker and acclaimed director

    • @melinatedthinka8210
      @melinatedthinka8210 9 місяців тому

      @@HibaraBondeyou’re under her spell

  • @SideEyeee_
    @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому

    I don’t think Beyoncé continues MJ’s legacy at ALL. MJ was a TRUE artist, not a thief and not someone who claims a religion and then disrespects it.

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 5 місяців тому

      Beyonce doesn't have to embody all things MJ to be his equal. For instance, she can't write a song to save her life. The comparisons stem from being the best of their generation, having the best videos, tours, albums & performances.
      Huge career moments and dance imitations.
      Especially Impact and being an all around force in the industry with tremendous impact. Every MJ album is a huge career leap, and the same is true for Beyonce. The female MJ is obviously not Janet.
      Beyonce even sounded like a young Michael Jackson when she was a little girl in a singing group.
      Beyonce is a better performer than MJ if not equal and Coachella proves it. It's the most searched performance in Google history and it's live stream broke records.
      And I neglected to mention that Beyonce is a vocal Einstein, She uses her voice the same way MJ used his art of dance.
      A master of Dance vs a master of Voice.

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cavalrystyles8776Oh, my days. You are RIDICULOUS. Nobody is MJ’s equal and not every Beyoncé album has an impact. She doesn’t even have an “Off The Wall” to begin with. She is not a better performer than MJ and Coachella proves nothing. MJ didn’t need 200 people to put on a show. Even in numbers, Beyoncé doesn’t come close.

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 5 місяців тому

      @@SideEyeee_ Beyonce = Michael jackson
      Beyoncé’s best live dance performance is the 2009 vmas for single ladies, it is equal to MJs best live dance performance 1995 vmas for smooth criminal.
      Beyonce's lemonade is actually more universally acclaimed than any mj album and also won more awards in total.
      Beyonce won more grammys than mj by the double, and Beyonce was the first female Entertainer to do an all stadium tour with formation.
      Her most recent tour is the highest grossing of all time for a black entertainer with only 56 shows.
      MJ was not a god & Beyonce makes stronger albums. Mjs' best albums are invincible and history... Lemonade and cowboy carter is their equal. Renaissance is better than off the wall and B'day which is almost her worse album is still Thriller's equal.
      Michael jackson = Beyonce

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 5 місяців тому

      @@SideEyeee_
      Furthermore, there is no need to bring up numbers as they exist in different climates and markets. Easier to sell albums in MJs time and Easier to gross $1 billion in beyonce's time. Beyonce's Survivor album and mjs Invincible album were released in the same year. Beyonce's album SURVIVOR performed much better than Invincible by miles.

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 4 місяці тому

      @@SideEyeee_ I said smooth criminal, but I meant dangerous

  • @weluvfood2865
    @weluvfood2865 10 місяців тому +3

    Usher make memorable music, yes he might not have Jay Z ‘s backing like Beyonce or the fanbase like artists have today, but the music released from the 90s up until 2016 is more memorable than anything Beyonce has released…sorry

    • @flipitmix
      @flipitmix 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes. Usher's first album will always be his best album to me❤

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому

      Beyonce is the one who backing jayz lol

  • @travistheentertainertv6870
    @travistheentertainertv6870 8 місяців тому +1

    That white woman is very overrated......

    • @SideEyeee_
      @SideEyeee_ 5 місяців тому

      She’s not white but yeah, she is overrated.

  • @Abestine0
    @Abestine0 6 місяців тому

    Do Nicki and drake
    Ari and the week d

  • @ShawnMedley-pk6hp
    @ShawnMedley-pk6hp 10 місяців тому +1

    Crazy because Bruno Mars is more talented than both again much respect to both Legends.

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому

      He is not .he copied 70s music

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 6 місяців тому

      How??? 😂

    • @cavalrystyles8776
      @cavalrystyles8776 6 місяців тому

      Greatest DANCERS in music:
      1. Michael jackson
      2. Omarion
      3. Usher
      4. Chris Brown
      5. Normani
      6. Ciara
      7. Janet Jackson
      8. Beyonce
      9. Shakira
      10. Jennifer Lopez

  • @Injun_Number_9
    @Injun_Number_9 9 місяців тому

    Michael Jackson: (Usher & Chris Brown) Beyonce: (Janet Jackson & Aaliyah)

    • @flipitmix
      @flipitmix 9 місяців тому

      Um janet was around way before beyaki was born

    • @Injun_Number_9
      @Injun_Number_9 9 місяців тому

      @@flipitmix True, but Janet was the dominant Female entertainment in the late 80's & early 90's. Beyonce was influenced by her coming up...

    • @HibaraBonde
      @HibaraBonde 9 місяців тому

      ​@@flipitmixjanet can not sing

  • @decorianhill7228
    @decorianhill7228 10 місяців тому +1

    And Chris brown

    • @sadefan536
      @sadefan536 10 місяців тому +6

      Girl just watch the video yall Chris brown gags are annoying

  • @worldztune852
    @worldztune852 10 місяців тому

    Usher isn’t ambitious enough to be a boss. He’s very unsure about everything he does. Always scared to put out singles unless the label made him. That’s why he never went further.

  • @ZAYA.21
    @ZAYA.21 10 місяців тому +5

    The difference is that Usher is A GOAT
    Beyonce Is a Joke😂

    • @slystone4892
      @slystone4892 10 місяців тому +22

      Beyoncé a joke? You’re the joke

    • @handsomemahlambi
      @handsomemahlambi 10 місяців тому +17

      You’re mad
      My girl just went number 1 with a Country song and became the first Black woman to top the Country chart ever
      Again being the bar
      Beyoncé does sold out stadium tours and is very clear in her execution and vision as an artist
      Usher is great and I’m not comparing but just listing the reasons why Beyoncé is also GOAT and even in a bigger way
      When talking about Beyoncé albums they bring up recent ones not just the 90s and 2000s ones

    • @koppamida
      @koppamida 10 місяців тому +1

      awkward...

    • @mohamedislembarhoumi9832
      @mohamedislembarhoumi9832 10 місяців тому

      Even usher would slap you

    • @sadefan536
      @sadefan536 10 місяців тому +1

      Where do you work? How much do you make per year? Oh ok 😂