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You should check out that new Turbohub that came out. It's giving me very similar vibes. They're selling an SSD for less than half the standard market price, combined with a USB hub and charging bank.
btw. these small solar panels are only capable of 100-300 mA. It more for keeping a full charge when not in use as example: Your cars dashboard. there are better products but not bad for the price :)
Thank you for calling lit mobile out on their crap. I got so annoyed with their commercials and their obvious lies about the solar. I work with solar at my job and have also been to schooling for it. Hearing their outrageous claims infuriated me because I knew there were people that couldn't see it for the lie it was. Thank you again, fantastic expose.
Yes,recharging 20000mah at 5v and 2A will take 10 hours in theory, no way it’s a 100W solar panel because that’s the only way you can do that so maybe it takes 20hours due to lots of inefficient steps
After watching Thunderf00t's solar road ways videos and a video about the solar panels on calculators being fake I now know most products with a small solar panel is just crap.
@@GrumpyIan Not all of them, there are real calculators that are actually solar powered. That said a calculator needs almost nothing (especially a poor one that can't get 1/3*3 right, let along the square root 2 test. Back of the napkin calculations given a solar cell powerbank size told me it was a clear false claim, I did that the first time I heard LitMobile's claim in advert.
The problem with solar powerbanks, aside from the tiny panels being practically useless, is that you're putting lithium batteries into extreme heat which is going to damage and limit their life. That's why it's better to buy a regular powerbank and a 10W USB solar panel / charger. Keep the battery in the shade 👍
Ah, okay. I was going to say that 6 to 8 hours for a 20,000 mAh battery isn't that bad. I bought some Netgear 20k battery and that thing gives me plenty of charges before recharging and AT LEAST 4 full 0 to 100% charges, so 6 to 8 hours seems fair. But as you mentioned, better to buy a 10w solar charger separately.
Well, there is no technology to detect your emotional state thorough a UA-cam video yet, so there is no way Ken can know what his viewers are actually feeling. His character seems to be optimistic (despite all the failures we see in his videos), which means he assumes you are doing great.
FYI: According to wikipedia, the highest possible solar irradiance is approx. 1000W/m^2. The device itself is 2.7 by 5.7 inches; for us SI users; 6.9 by 14.5 cm. This means the area of the solar panel (being VERY generous) is 100 cm^2 or 0.01m^2. This means that, given a perfect solar panel, that can convert ALL solar energy to usable power, a device of this size will produce a max of 10w AT BEST. A liion battery has a nominal voltage of 3.7 Volts. At the stated 20.000mAh, which is equal to 20Ah, this gives 20*3.7 = 74Wh. In order to generate 74 watt hours@10watts, this will take 74/10 = 7.4 hours AT LEAST. Looking a bit further, the most efficient solar panels ever will have an efficiency of 45%, while consumer units will lie in the 15-25% range. Let's give this thing the benefit of the doubt; let's say it's 50% efficient. This means it'll take 15 hours to charge this thing with solar power. The 1 hour charge time, even in optimal conditions here on earth, is plain impossible. Just to give a figure of how ridiculous this claim actually is; at the top of earth's atmosphere, solar irradiance is 1360 w/m^2. (in near earth orbit, this thing would take 5.4 hours to charge @ 100% efficiency) This would mean that, if it were 100% efficient, it could onlyu fullfill its promise, if you'd put it in the same orbit as mercury...
I made a similar estimate. But you know a solar powerbank has an actual usecase that i deem marketable without lies. The battery gradually bleeds off charge, not just by itself, it also needs to support the circuitry in the power bank with quiescent current, and you never know when you need your power bank, and by the time you need it months after you last topped it up, it might be kinda flat-ish. If they made one that can tie to the back of your backpack nicely, and was well protected against elements and impact and abuse, then no matter how much time has passed since you last topped it up, it's still going to be full! Isn't that nice? And if all you top up are your wireless earbuds and occasional very moderate phone boosts, you may never actually need to charge it at home. I think you can expect the power bank to lose 5-20% charge per month. Let's say the expected output power of the solar cell is just 0.75W (bad weather, bad orientation, low efficiency, etc), then if you irradiate it for 1 hour every day, you restore 1% charge per day, and 30% charge per month. Isn't this just about perfect?
@@SianaGearz I have a solar charging battery bank, and while I definitely don't use the solar charging as its main way of using it, I do really like the solar charging. I hike and spend quite a bit of time out in nature, and having that solar charger with the led lamp in the back means that I can always get from about 8 hours of charging just enough battery for one or two phone calls, or light when it gets dark. It's a really good emergency backup, but can in no situation replace the main method of charging.
Thanks for the calculation, very interesting. I bought one of the power banks from 'Lit Solar' (other brand Lit Mobile are using) and recently got the charge refunded back to my card as no suprises, it didn't arrive. I did have some warning signs in the back of my mind that it would be too good to be true, but it was the fact the ad came through UA-cam, a legitimate platform, the variety of positive reviews and 60% 'discount' that convinced me to take a chance and buy. There were hundreds of 4 & 5 star reviews on the website, many of which had the product in different situations and at different angles so I was thinking, that's a lot of effort to fake that and if it is a scam they will get shut down fairly quickly but I guess it was still worth it to them. Also the fact that reviews could only be read, not written should've deterred me. What I don't know is if it was a company actually trying to do what they could to produce/source a good solar charging product then realised the best they could do was drop ship a cheap OEM and inflate the specs, and whether they deliberately tried to exit scam at that point using the promotional material and infrastructure they'd created or were hoping to get some money from orders to fund sourcing a decent product. All in all, I've learnt to be more careful next time when buying something from an unknown brand. Regarding the OEM product itself, I would've accepted slow solar charging if it was good in all other regards, didn't know the exact figures til your calculation but I was aware a panel that size wouldn't charge the bank quickly at all. But it could still be useful as an emergency backup, i.e. using your example of 50% efficient panel my phone, a Note 10+ would get 1 hour of 3G talktime from 6 mins of solar charging. Using GSMArena specs of about 32 hours 3G talktime from a full 4200mAh battery. So if there was a urgent need to make a call, or look something up online and both my phone battery and bank were dead the solar charging could be a very useful emergency backup and it wouldn't take long to get enough juice for a shorter, less demanding task - but of course could never be relied upon as the main source of re-charging the bank. What I do find odd is why it won't go above the 25% light with solar charging - I don't know how they've setup the thresholds on the lights, with Ken assuming it to be 25-49% but maybe it's the other end of the scale, lighting up with any charge level up to 25%. Which would be a bit cheeky as that would suggest if all the lights follow the same logic the 100% light would come on with 76 - 100% charge but that could be exactly how they want it, to make it look like it charges quicker. I don't know, but it would've been interesting if Ken had tried charging an empty device of 5000 mAh to see if the solar charging genuinely had done at least 25%.
@@TheNugettinage I meant in particular a solar bank that is not used in burst solar charge situations, but which is constantly worn on your body so every time you walk somewhere, it gets a wee little boost. I don't think enough attention has been paid to make the solar power bank always-wearable. And the back side of the backpack that you wear every day in the city is a convenient spot.
Are the charging problem of only max 25~49% due to voltage limitations of the solar cell, as far I( a layman) know to charge something you require a min voltage and anything below that wouldn't charge the battery but might even drain it, the solar cell might just be producing enough potential difference to charge it to 25%.
Many UA-camrs got their Escobar phones though. They literally got $1,000 - $1,500 phones for cheap as they talked trash about the company on UA-cam. Only regular customers got duped.
They also attempted to sue apple, they gave phones out to bait people. They had those wonderful ads. What I am saying is they took their con to the next level.
What's concerning most about this is not that Lit Mobile is a scam, a quick browse of the internet shows that these kinds of companies are a dime a dozen. What's the most concerning is the fact that UA-cam allowed this company to advertise on their website. I'm already concerned about buying from any online retailer that I'm not familiar with, but I feel like UA-cam has put a great deal of mistrust on any of the advertisers no matter how honest and reputable they may be.
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 Exactly, fake sex ad or scam product is fine as long as youtube get paid however they refuse to publish any right to repair commercial. As usual evil corporation.
I find it bizarre that youtube will go to enormous lengths to ensure that the content on their platform is “advertiser friendly” yet have never considered the fact that if they don't curate their ads then it makes all of the ads on their platform seen untrustworthy. Back in the day on TV the cost of advertising at least had some sort of curating effect.
I have an older "solar power bank" I bought a few years ago to throw in my emergency preparedness bag. It's much smaller, has only two 5W USB-A ports (and the USB-micro charge port.) and no Qi pad. But it's supposedly "rugged" and waterproof, and has a solar panel! Perfect for emergencies (or so I thought.) And much like yours - the solar panel is effectively useless. Can only charge up enough to make the first LED light up (similar 4-LEDs for status,) and takes a day in direct sunlight to get that far. Left it out a full week in "light clouds" and didn't even light up the first LED. You just need a much bigger solar panel to provide enough juice to actually power up any of these. (I bought a "fold-up solar panel" to charge my powerbanks from.)
That's mostly because the little solar panel has to be able to provide adequate current and keep a steady voltage which has to be well above the battery's nominal voltage at that current output.
maybe its a safety thing? much safer to let it only go to 25% charge. still on my 8000mah bank maybe the same it IS waterproof for fun i dropped it in the swimming pool a few times. let it dry a bit and it would charge my phone quite a bit like 45% on a ''full solar charge'' i also use it at work i just lay it outside and 30 mins u get 20% phone battery on my a30
I have seen/used working solar chargers but they have flaps so it’s like 3 to 4x the amount of solar cells, plus I’m sure it was more expansive solar cells, the cheap power banks probably used the lowest quality solar cells which are pretty inefficient.
It even says on the BBB website ''Lastly, consumers mention the company fails to respond to any form of correspondence when requesting further information regarding either their guarantee on product or deliver statuses. ... We have reached out to the company with our concerns and are currently awaiting a response. '' so the BBB can't even get a hold of them.
I'm willing to bet that the range for the 25% indicator is actually 1-25%, as 25-49% would result in the 100% indicator only lighting up at *exactly* 100%.
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A few years ago I ran an experiment where I charged all of my devices purely off of solar power for a few weeks. Two important things to keep in mind with these solar powered chargers: 1. The angle that you set it relative to the sun is *critical*. You need the panel to be 90° from the sun’s rays. Power output drops *dramatically* if sunlight doesn’t hit it directly. I had to adjust the panel I was using every hour or two. 2. Heat will destroy the batteries in these, and even if they aren’t destroyed their effectiveness is greatly diminished. If you’re serious about powering your gadgets with solar, you either need to live at a high altitude (lots of sun and cool temperatures) or buy a battery and a stand-alone charger. The standalone charger panels are much bigger than the built-in panels, and you can hide the battery in the shade of the charger.
It's refreshing to finally see an honest review from someone with minimal antics and b.s. awkward jokes. I just ask that you don't get so into monetization it starts diluting your content. Keep it simple and i'll stay subscribed. Thanks buddy 👍👍
Yeah, they got me too. Ordered 5/26, now 7/15/20, still nothing. Glad you did a vid on this. I gave the benefit of the doubt too. 100% scam. And, after seeing your review I don't care anyways. They can keep it. I am curious though, with all the people blatantly getting debited for a product that is never delivered..can't the defrauded customers file a lawsuit against Lit?
The problem would be that it's not a US company (a .us domain can be acquired by anyone as you don't have to prove you're in the US). Most lawyers would simply shrug and say that it's not worth it to try and collect as even if you got a court to side with the plantiffs in the suit, there'd be nothing to collect as it's foreign which they have no jurisdiction over. The plantiffs would then have to take the US-based court judgement, hire lawyers in China, and file motions in the Chinese courts, and hope that the courts side with them to allow collections to proceed on the original balance (what was paid for the courts and lawyers in China would not be included, nor any interest or court/lawyer fees from the US-based suit). So even if they got some of their money back in the process, it would be swallowed up by legal bills, which is why lawyers will just tell folks to suck it up as a (hopefully) lesson learned.
And ironically Google-UA-cam won't allow third party electronics repair businesses to advertise in search results. They say they are trying to protect the consumer. HA! Let scammers ads rip ppl off on youtube, but they need to protect the world from Louis Rossman? (repair channel on youtube).
@@user-ty2uz4gb7v well, I can't blame them for protecting people from Louis! He's just always so miserable it seems! Still enjoy some of his videos. He just always seems a little pissed off!
Instagram as well. and i have seen ads advertising sweet ass leather jackets, or solid gold suits... on fake scam websites selling them at a fraction of what they actually sell for. The shitty part is i actually wanted to buy those things, even before i knew what the price was, they looked friggin sweet. I usually NEVER click on ads. I ended up going on alibaba later and buying something similar from someone i knew was making cheap crap but definitely not trying to scam me, just like Ken did. So i do have a solid gold suit now, its super plasticky and its way too small but it is still stupidly awesome. Instagram is responsible for the scams that use their platform to advertise. they are complicit in people being ripped off.
I got robbed for 2 of these things! I was in a hurry, not paying attention, thought they would make a nice gift, didn't read any comments. And I ordered mine long after people were complaining about being robbed. UA-cam was still running the ad in spite of it!
2:49 ahh that old youtube icon also yes the iPhone prevents it from hitting 100% its also a common feature of devices these days, infact the iPhone will give prompts about it if its part of your routine etc. but yeah charging to 100% then letting itself drain to 95/98/92% are common things laptops and such do. helps preserve the batteries lifespan
Left on the second row down. Looking at it how it is in the video. Was the old icon atleast for the Ipad. Cant remember if it was for old smsrt devices like the sony ericsson.
I have a 25.000 pack it has 4 solar panels and takes a good day to fill the battery with good sun, 1 solar panel won't output enough juice to charge the battery
I have a 26000 bank with four panels @18w and to takes a good day to 2 days in the Cali sun to fully charge if there aren't any clouds. So yeah the claims that one solar cell with charge it that fast are very false... However if you left it out for 4-5 days it might fully charge. I love having our in case of emergencies, especially during fire season which is basically April to November for us.
I have a 10W 5-panel solar charger without a battery pack, meaning I can use my own battery packs and bring them with me in my pocket without the whole solar rig attached. Costs around $20 on eBay and there are a lot of them for sale. The actual measured output on mine is 5V 1.5A in direct sunlight, which is 7,5W. I didn't expect it to be that good honestly.
When I first saw a lit mobile ad I was impressed about it being able to charge solar style and having 20,000 mAh battery but i knew in the back of my head that they were full of bull
I've done some calculations and even under ideal conditions ie miday at the equator under blue sky. This power bank would take 15 hours to fully charge. I suspect the 25% indicator activates far below 25% to make people believe that it is doing something.
@@RaduTek not really tho. This panel can probably has an output of half a watt to a watt, and since an led takes like 0.02 Watt, that shouldn't be the issue
Pretty sure he's misinterpreting what the lights mean. Because since it also has a 100% light, the 25% light means 0-25% NOT 25-49% as he seems to think (since by that logic the 100% light would mean 100-124% which makes no sense). 26-50% would be the 50% light.
I remember my reaction to the outrageous claims those adds made. You have satisfied my curiosity in the qualities of the product. I'm actually a little surprised it's as useful as it is.
Can’t believe someone actually took it while you were testing the solar charging xD Really loved this video! It’s actually not as bad as I expected it. Also been quite a while since I’ve been this early :D
If there’s optional branding and they’re so cheap it tells me that these are for a company to buy in bulk with their branding to give as gifts to their employees or customers
Thanks Ken for making this series. It's really great to see an honest, open review of something to get a much better feel and idea of what it's really about. It's interesting that as a power bank/wireless charger, it works rather well. It would be interesting though to see what the actual charging rate/output of those solar cells is, as it could be used to determine just how much of a charge/usage you can expect from it.
Well... Thank you for this dive down the rabbit hole that is Lit Mobile. My Nine-year-old son saw these commercials and was begging me for one of these because we camp. I told him I would look into it and then found you. I thought these things looked a little too good to be true when he showed me the add, and you have saved me some money by doing the gunt work for me. My son, on the other hand, is not happy. :-) Thanks again... You have a new subscriber in me.
This whole Lit Mobile debacle is what attracted me to your channel. I love the kind of content you make. Thanks for the distraction from all the morons and just down right despicable people(like whom ever owns Lit Mobile) that just make life pointless sometimes. Lol
That's why we were all saying that you should just charge-back before it is too late, as Lit Mobile is never going to send you a unit. They're intention is just to pocket the funds and hope folks wait until after it's too late to initiate a charge-back (typically 60-90 days after the transaction was done).
I've been binge watching your videos. I'm hopping off here because of a Quantum Theory post that I want to watch. Once I want some tech entertainment, I'm coming back here. Awesome channel.
That face when ken lost his "lit mobile" solar charger (unofficial) That same face when ken couldn't get Catalina installed on a old mac computer I dont know im trying to be funny here
Dude, just a heads up, some of the reviews on their site have changed to dong pics and big Chungus pics with hilarious reviews. Thought it would make a pretty funny video
Its nice to see someone deep diving into the world of technology and looking at the unique devices available in the market instead of smartphones. I look forward to more and I especially enjoy how you tackle said devices to the end and see if they are what they say they are able to provide to the buyer. Kudos to you, take care always, God bless, stay safe and continue to make the tech world a more high quality leveled place bit by bit.
I used to work for a solar company called renogy. I was a technician there. We sold this exact unit as well under our brand name. It’s just a generic unit. Basically how it works/is marketed (at least on my old company’s side) the solar panel works somewhat as a battery tender. The built in panel is not meant to charge the unit from a low power state or from a dead state. The unit is designed to be charged by your ac socket at home, and then the solar panel is meant to tend and keep the battery topped off in the field. The solar technology they use is really crappy and inefficient. However with this technology, it should be able to recharge the battery from a 50% charge or above. However, this would take a really long time as again, the solar panel is only good as a battery tender and nothing more. It’s kind of like what the hell is the point? Lol
Some of us haven't gotten rain in weeks even months yet other parts of the world like China it hasn't stopped raining in 47 days and even Wuhan is flooded.
Hello #KrazyKen. I did the same as you, I went and bought the Lit Solar. But, I bought it two different times, I guess I am a gambler... It did look so promising! Waited a good while and then gave up and requested my money back from my credit card company. Then, I went and bought one from Amazon. Almost identical to the Lit Solar. I did receive the device, pretty happy with it, and it is branded BLavor. At least, I got it, it works, and does what I wanted it to do. I paid $ 79.00 in CAD so not bad including the shipping cost that was passed on to me. Was very happy to hit on your show. I have subscribed, you sound like a great person to get help from. Thank you...
I'm one of those suckers who bought a $40 litmobil back in November 2019, from a UA-cam ad. Unlike apparently a lot of people, I was lucky enough to get my product, pretty fast, and the thing works. I don't take it into the desert or anything, but just keep it by my bed side where I like to wirelessly charge my phone, and once in a rare while I use the light. It works. However, the solar doesn't seem to charge it very much, if at all, and I feel like an idiot for not shopping around and finding the $20 version. Oh well. Thanks for your review and this explains why their website is gone. They're on to the next grift, probably something involving crypto currency.
3:37 I think the phone was doing that because some of them have a feature that learns your routine and waits until you’re just about to wake up to fully charge the battery.
I know why it didn't charge over (approx.) 25%. Solar panels (especially ones this small) output a really low voltage, even when in direct sunlight. The battery's nominal voltage is around 3.7 volts, but even if there's a stepup converter (or buck boost) in the powerbank which can boost the voltage coming out of the solar panel, the battery can only be charged to an extent with only the solar panel, because it doesn't provide the necessary wattage for a full battery charge. The solar cell is just too small for the whole 3.7 volt battery to fully charge. With a rapid calculation, since it charged approx. 1/4 of the powerbank battery, you would atleast need 4 panels of that size connected in series, plus another 4 wired in parallel to the other 4, for extra amperes (more watts of power too). The powerbank itself could be cool, but it just doesn't have the actual hardware to pull the whole solar charging off.
I’m glad to find this. Can you add this video link to the previous episodes? I didn’t know you got something until UA-cam pushed it to me in recommendation
A similar photovoltaic cell with only 1/5 of that surface, dried out in the garden for the entire day, only managed to lit up a single LED for only 6-7 hours.
I ordered the USB C one in November 2019 and loved it (yes, we did actually get it and fairly quick too but certainly didn't pay full price). Of course the solar didn't work like it was supposed to but we expected that...loved the wireless charging feature the most. Liked it so much we ordered another along with one of their solar panels too in March 2020. BUT that's where I had issues since they shipped me 2 solar panels instead of the charger..and it was even on the packing slip that way. I sent multiple emails with no response (or I got the generic one), which I then forwarded to every email address they listed. Also tried the number and got the same response..so I finally filed a claim with my credit card. Lit Mobile actually contested the claim and sent a response to my credit card (I was surprised they actually responded)!!! So I had to file a rebuttal to my claim. I did get my money refunded completely after a couple months..and I was actually gonna order another until I found the website no longer existed..and I found your videos..WOW!!! I guess we got lucky!!!
I checked out the product on the Shenzhen Juding Technology Co website. All THEY say is it CAN be charged by solar. A (positive) verified purchase review suggests that it will take a couple of days in the sun to charge and even then it does not say it will charge to 100%, nor does it say where it the USA it was put out in the sun (2 days of 16 hours per day of continuous bright sunlight perhaps?). That said a 20Ah [20,000mAh = 20Ah] USB power brick for that price is not a bad product (for the price the original manufacturer sells it for). Thanks for the videos, it has been interesting following this saga, even if we all had a pretty good idea of what the outcome would be. [Liked and subscribed]
Thanks for making the videos. You've inspired me to follow up on my never-delivered, never-replied to scam purchase and contest the charge on these jerks.
The pre-roll ad I saw before this video was a guy allegedly being dragged around a parking lot by his low cut socks while he told the audience how amazing they were.
Thanks for your comments about LitMobile's solar charger. I ordered a unit, never heard from the company. I sent several emails, but no response. I called and the phone was disconnected. I contacted American Express, my credit card, and they immediately credited my account. I guess they know what I found out from you and others--they're a SCAM! Thanks!
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You should check out that new Turbohub that came out. It's giving me very similar vibes. They're selling an SSD for less than half the standard market price, combined with a USB hub and charging bank.
Hey crazy ken I’m new to this.
Do JBL SPEAKERS they’re the most unreliable speakers ever with NO customer service resolutions just run around.
@@cavemanvi yea uh JBL IS in fact a reputable brand most would say...
btw. these small solar panels are only capable of 100-300 mA. It more for keeping a full charge when not in use as example: Your cars dashboard. there are better products but not bad for the price :)
Thank you for calling lit mobile out on their crap. I got so annoyed with their commercials and their obvious lies about the solar. I work with solar at my job and have also been to schooling for it. Hearing their outrageous claims infuriated me because I knew there were people that couldn't see it for the lie it was. Thank you again, fantastic expose.
Wait you guys are getting ads ?
Yes,recharging 20000mah at 5v and 2A will take 10 hours in theory, no way it’s a 100W solar panel because that’s the only way you can do that so maybe it takes 20hours due to lots of inefficient steps
After watching Thunderf00t's solar road ways videos and a video about the solar panels on calculators being fake I now know most products with a small solar panel is just crap.
@@GrumpyIan Not all of them, there are real calculators that are actually solar powered. That said a calculator needs almost nothing (especially a poor one that can't get 1/3*3 right, let along the square root 2 test. Back of the napkin calculations given a solar cell powerbank size told me it was a clear false claim, I did that the first time I heard LitMobile's claim in advert.
I was surprised it had more that a 2000 battery, and it kinda worked,
The problem with solar powerbanks, aside from the tiny panels being practically useless, is that you're putting lithium batteries into extreme heat which is going to damage and limit their life.
That's why it's better to buy a regular powerbank and a 10W USB solar panel / charger. Keep the battery in the shade 👍
I agree with all electronics - thermal is the Biggest Enemy
Ah, okay. I was going to say that 6 to 8 hours for a 20,000 mAh battery isn't that bad.
I bought some Netgear 20k battery and that thing gives me plenty of charges before recharging and AT LEAST 4 full 0 to 100% charges, so 6 to 8 hours seems fair.
But as you mentioned, better to buy a 10w solar charger separately.
I thought I was the only one thinking this..... maybe I am sane 😂
Would it make more sense to have instead a foldable solar panel you could deploy in the sun and have a battery hooked to it all cozy in the shade?
@@RaveNinja1401 This! Less convenient but far safer.
When you tell him you're depressed, but Ken just says: well that's just great!
Well, there is no technology to detect your emotional state thorough a UA-cam video yet, so there is no way Ken can know what his viewers are actually feeling. His character seems to be optimistic (despite all the failures we see in his videos), which means he assumes you are doing great.
@@markusTegelane ok
I Hope you overcome your depression soon and feel great about yourself
It could work if he had a sense of sarcasm. Lol
When you realise someone’s a noob because they have a Agar.io profile picture
FYI: According to wikipedia, the highest possible solar irradiance is approx. 1000W/m^2.
The device itself is 2.7 by 5.7 inches; for us SI users; 6.9 by 14.5 cm. This means the area of the solar panel (being VERY generous) is 100 cm^2 or 0.01m^2. This means that, given a perfect solar panel, that can convert ALL solar energy to usable power, a device of this size will produce a max of 10w AT BEST.
A liion battery has a nominal voltage of 3.7 Volts. At the stated 20.000mAh, which is equal to 20Ah, this gives 20*3.7 = 74Wh. In order to generate 74 watt hours@10watts, this will take 74/10 = 7.4 hours AT LEAST.
Looking a bit further, the most efficient solar panels ever will have an efficiency of 45%, while consumer units will lie in the 15-25% range.
Let's give this thing the benefit of the doubt; let's say it's 50% efficient. This means it'll take 15 hours to charge this thing with solar power.
The 1 hour charge time, even in optimal conditions here on earth, is plain impossible.
Just to give a figure of how ridiculous this claim actually is; at the top of earth's atmosphere, solar irradiance is 1360 w/m^2. (in near earth orbit, this thing would take 5.4 hours to charge @ 100% efficiency)
This would mean that, if it were 100% efficient, it could onlyu fullfill its promise, if you'd put it in the same orbit as mercury...
I made a similar estimate. But you know a solar powerbank has an actual usecase that i deem marketable without lies. The battery gradually bleeds off charge, not just by itself, it also needs to support the circuitry in the power bank with quiescent current, and you never know when you need your power bank, and by the time you need it months after you last topped it up, it might be kinda flat-ish. If they made one that can tie to the back of your backpack nicely, and was well protected against elements and impact and abuse, then no matter how much time has passed since you last topped it up, it's still going to be full! Isn't that nice? And if all you top up are your wireless earbuds and occasional very moderate phone boosts, you may never actually need to charge it at home.
I think you can expect the power bank to lose 5-20% charge per month. Let's say the expected output power of the solar cell is just 0.75W (bad weather, bad orientation, low efficiency, etc), then if you irradiate it for 1 hour every day, you restore 1% charge per day, and 30% charge per month. Isn't this just about perfect?
@@SianaGearz I have a solar charging battery bank, and while I definitely don't use the solar charging as its main way of using it, I do really like the solar charging. I hike and spend quite a bit of time out in nature, and having that solar charger with the led lamp in the back means that I can always get from about 8 hours of charging just enough battery for one or two phone calls, or light when it gets dark. It's a really good emergency backup, but can in no situation replace the main method of charging.
Thanks for the calculation, very interesting. I bought one of the power banks from 'Lit Solar' (other brand Lit Mobile are using) and recently got the charge refunded back to my card as no suprises, it didn't arrive. I did have some warning signs in the back of my mind that it would be too good to be true, but it was the fact the ad came through UA-cam, a legitimate platform, the variety of positive reviews and 60% 'discount' that convinced me to take a chance and buy. There were hundreds of 4 & 5 star reviews on the website, many of which had the product in different situations and at different angles so I was thinking, that's a lot of effort to fake that and if it is a scam they will get shut down fairly quickly but I guess it was still worth it to them. Also the fact that reviews could only be read, not written should've deterred me.
What I don't know is if it was a company actually trying to do what they could to produce/source a good solar charging product then realised the best they could do was drop ship a cheap OEM and inflate the specs, and whether they deliberately tried to exit scam at that point using the promotional material and infrastructure they'd created or were hoping to get some money from orders to fund sourcing a decent product. All in all, I've learnt to be more careful next time when buying something from an unknown brand.
Regarding the OEM product itself, I would've accepted slow solar charging if it was good in all other regards, didn't know the exact figures til your calculation but I was aware a panel that size wouldn't charge the bank quickly at all. But it could still be useful as an emergency backup, i.e. using your example of 50% efficient panel my phone, a Note 10+ would get 1 hour of 3G talktime from 6 mins of solar charging. Using GSMArena specs of about 32 hours 3G talktime from a full 4200mAh battery. So if there was a urgent need to make a call, or look something up online and both my phone battery and bank were dead the solar charging could be a very useful emergency backup and it wouldn't take long to get enough juice for a shorter, less demanding task - but of course could never be relied upon as the main source of re-charging the bank. What I do find odd is why it won't go above the 25% light with solar charging - I don't know how they've setup the thresholds on the lights, with Ken assuming it to be 25-49% but maybe it's the other end of the scale, lighting up with any charge level up to 25%. Which would be a bit cheeky as that would suggest if all the lights follow the same logic the 100% light would come on with 76 - 100% charge but that could be exactly how they want it, to make it look like it charges quicker. I don't know, but it would've been interesting if Ken had tried charging an empty device of 5000 mAh to see if the solar charging genuinely had done at least 25%.
@@TheNugettinage I meant in particular a solar bank that is not used in burst solar charge situations, but which is constantly worn on your body so every time you walk somewhere, it gets a wee little boost. I don't think enough attention has been paid to make the solar power bank always-wearable. And the back side of the backpack that you wear every day in the city is a convenient spot.
Are the charging problem of only max 25~49% due to voltage limitations of the solar cell, as far I( a layman) know to charge something you require a min voltage and anything below that wouldn't charge the battery but might even drain it, the solar cell might just be producing enough potential difference to charge it to 25%.
Making a powerbank which can be charged by the sun in a black case…what could go wrong?
Lit: "we conned one UA-camr and a few customers out of money"
Escobar Inc: "Hold my cocaine".
How did they con me? : p
Robert Bee 5gbiosheild : Amateurs!
Many UA-camrs got their Escobar phones though.
They literally got $1,000 - $1,500 phones for cheap as they talked trash about the company on UA-cam.
Only regular customers got duped.
They also attempted to sue apple, they gave phones out to bait people. They had those wonderful ads. What I am saying is they took their con to the next level.
Robert Bee they weren’t trying to sue Apple, they were trying to get publicity...
Was looking forward to this video!
Omg, Hi, Psivewri! One of my fav channels!
Sorry for seeing this comment late, haha. Thanks for watching : )
Omg, i love your channel! This is actually the second time ive seen you in a comment section. The other time was on a video about 2b2t.
@Psivewri Hello! I love your vids!!!
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Ken: I can't hold onto tech products without dropping them
Linus: Drop my beer
Who’s Linus?
5:13 you mean Linus right?
@@jimjimx5418 A famous tech UA-camr, who reviews tech products, builds computers, benchmarks those computers, and more.
And then promptly drops the tech he reviews. It ain't nicknamed 'DropTips' for no good reason. :p
jim jimx go to lmg.gg and you’ll find out
What's concerning most about this is not that Lit Mobile is a scam, a quick browse of the internet shows that these kinds of companies are a dime a dozen. What's the most concerning is the fact that UA-cam allowed this company to advertise on their website. I'm already concerned about buying from any online retailer that I'm not familiar with, but I feel like UA-cam has put a great deal of mistrust on any of the advertisers no matter how honest and reputable they may be.
UA-cam doesn’t care as long as they are paid, that’s why they were playing sexual ads awhile back and they stayed for years because it was profitable
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 Exactly, fake sex ad or scam product is fine as long as youtube get paid however they refuse to publish any right to repair commercial. As usual evil corporation.
I find it bizarre that youtube will go to enormous lengths to ensure that the content on their platform is “advertiser friendly” yet have never considered the fact that if they don't curate their ads then it makes all of the ads on their platform seen untrustworthy. Back in the day on TV the cost of advertising at least had some sort of curating effect.
"A fool is born every minute"
"A fool and their money are soon parted"
That concludes the product pitch meeting a Lit Mobile.
PT Barnum was wrong. It's more like every second.
I love how ever since your last video on this matter, I haven't seen a single youtube lit mobile ad.
I have an older "solar power bank" I bought a few years ago to throw in my emergency preparedness bag. It's much smaller, has only two 5W USB-A ports (and the USB-micro charge port.) and no Qi pad. But it's supposedly "rugged" and waterproof, and has a solar panel! Perfect for emergencies (or so I thought.)
And much like yours - the solar panel is effectively useless. Can only charge up enough to make the first LED light up (similar 4-LEDs for status,) and takes a day in direct sunlight to get that far. Left it out a full week in "light clouds" and didn't even light up the first LED.
You just need a much bigger solar panel to provide enough juice to actually power up any of these. (I bought a "fold-up solar panel" to charge my powerbanks from.)
That's mostly because the little solar panel has to be able to provide adequate current and keep a steady voltage which has to be well above the battery's nominal voltage at that current output.
Also, if you look at this solar panel, it doesn't look like a high quality solar panel, it's way too bright.
Does the fold up work?
maybe its a safety thing?
much safer to let it only go to 25% charge. still on my 8000mah bank maybe the same it IS waterproof for fun i dropped it in the swimming pool a few times. let it dry a bit and it would charge my phone quite a bit like 45% on a ''full solar charge'' i also use it at work i just lay it outside and 30 mins u get 20% phone battery on my a30
I have seen/used working solar chargers but they have flaps so it’s like 3 to 4x the amount of solar cells, plus I’m sure it was more expansive solar cells, the cheap power banks probably used the lowest quality solar cells which are pretty inefficient.
It even says on the BBB website ''Lastly, consumers mention the company fails to respond to any form of correspondence when requesting further information regarding either their guarantee on product or deliver statuses. ... We have reached out to the company with our concerns and are currently awaiting a response. '' so the BBB can't even get a hold of them.
I'm willing to bet that the range for the 25% indicator is actually 1-25%, as 25-49% would result in the 100% indicator only lighting up at *exactly* 100%.
I feel same
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@@unusedaccount9130 okay?
Oops. If I had read the comments further I could have saved myself the time of writing nearly the exact thing. In other words "I agree". 😉
Was going to say the same!
5:10 i love how its advertised as vegan friendly hahaha love artlist
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Computer Clan hi
Wow, this video was incredible!
Hi Computer Clan
premiere
Computer Clan hey buy the “invincible drone” that’s constantly on UA-cam ads I bet it’s worse than lit mobile
Wow. A reviewer that puts his verdict not only at the start of the video but in the title too. Definitely got my respect for that
A few years ago I ran an experiment where I charged all of my devices purely off of solar power for a few weeks. Two important things to keep in mind with these solar powered chargers:
1. The angle that you set it relative to the sun is *critical*. You need the panel to be 90° from the sun’s rays. Power output drops *dramatically* if sunlight doesn’t hit it directly. I had to adjust the panel I was using every hour or two.
2. Heat will destroy the batteries in these, and even if they aren’t destroyed their effectiveness is greatly diminished. If you’re serious about powering your gadgets with solar, you either need to live at a high altitude (lots of sun and cool temperatures) or buy a battery and a stand-alone charger. The standalone charger panels are much bigger than the built-in panels, and you can hide the battery in the shade of the charger.
Which product brands do you suggest buying? I will be in the desert for about a month
@@unholy1771 why
@@tiddlewiddle4784 Camping. Would you like to come along?
@@unholy1771 is that a legitimate offer or...
@@tiddlewiddle4784 sure, if you're down for it come to Saudi. And as we usually say "If the desert doesn't have place for you, my eyes will"
It's refreshing to finally see an honest review from someone with minimal antics and b.s. awkward jokes. I just ask that you don't get so into monetization it starts diluting your content. Keep it simple and i'll stay subscribed. Thanks buddy 👍👍
This video is more lit than lit mobile.
Yeah, they got me too. Ordered 5/26, now 7/15/20, still nothing. Glad you did a vid on this. I gave the benefit of the doubt too. 100% scam. And, after seeing your review I don't care anyways. They can keep it. I am curious though, with all the people blatantly getting debited for a product that is never delivered..can't the defrauded customers file a lawsuit against Lit?
The problem would be that it's not a US company (a .us domain can be acquired by anyone as you don't have to prove you're in the US). Most lawyers would simply shrug and say that it's not worth it to try and collect as even if you got a court to side with the plantiffs in the suit, there'd be nothing to collect as it's foreign which they have no jurisdiction over.
The plantiffs would then have to take the US-based court judgement, hire lawyers in China, and file motions in the Chinese courts, and hope that the courts side with them to allow collections to proceed on the original balance (what was paid for the courts and lawyers in China would not be included, nor any interest or court/lawyer fees from the US-based suit).
So even if they got some of their money back in the process, it would be swallowed up by legal bills, which is why lawyers will just tell folks to suck it up as a (hopefully) lesson learned.
UA-cam is responsible for allowing these ads on their platform.
And ironically Google-UA-cam won't allow third party electronics repair businesses to advertise in search results. They say they are trying to protect the consumer. HA!
Let scammers ads rip ppl off on youtube, but they need to protect the world from Louis Rossman? (repair channel on youtube).
@@user-ty2uz4gb7v well, I can't blame them for protecting people from Louis! He's just always so miserable it seems! Still enjoy some of his videos. He just always seems a little pissed off!
@@christophershibles383 Nahh he's just a very real guy
Instagram as well. and i have seen ads advertising sweet ass leather jackets, or solid gold suits... on fake scam websites selling them at a fraction of what they actually sell for. The shitty part is i actually wanted to buy those things, even before i knew what the price was, they looked friggin sweet. I usually NEVER click on ads. I ended up going on alibaba later and buying something similar from someone i knew was making cheap crap but definitely not trying to scam me, just like Ken did. So i do have a solid gold suit now, its super plasticky and its way too small but it is still stupidly awesome. Instagram is responsible for the scams that use their platform to advertise. they are complicit in people being ripped off.
I got robbed for 2 of these things! I was in a hurry, not paying attention, thought they would make a nice gift, didn't read any comments. And I ordered mine long after people were complaining about being robbed. UA-cam was still running the ad in spite of it!
If you're really interested about what's going on inside, you should send this to Big Clive and have him "take it to bits" :)
But how could it not be worth $100?! It's *LIT*
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Lol the LIT part is probably fake it’s not worth 100$
ON A STACK BRUH :joy:
@@plooshdev nah no way
I think they're actually using that intro as the lit mobile ads.
Yeah that's why he said it. Oye vey.
2:49 ahh that old youtube icon
also yes the iPhone prevents it from hitting 100% its also a common feature of devices these days, infact the iPhone will give prompts about it if its part of your routine etc.
but yeah charging to 100% then letting itself drain to 95/98/92% are common things laptops and such do. helps preserve the batteries lifespan
Which ones the youtube icon?
@@Jjtricky3 you poor soul
Left on the second row down. Looking at it how it is in the video. Was the old icon atleast for the Ipad. Cant remember if it was for old smsrt devices like the sony ericsson.
Funny because my iPhones have always been able to hit 100% battery...
My note ten gets to 100 wirelessly... Why?
Legends states that Ken is still waiting on his Lit Mobile battery to this day...
Send it to Big Clive so he can test the real capacity and charge rates from the ports!
That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Thumbs up!
I'd say the explosion containment pie dish would be on standby with that one.
This saga has been nothing but an emotional rollercoaster.
Great job man!
I have a 25.000 pack it has 4 solar panels and takes a good day to fill the battery with good sun, 1 solar panel won't output enough juice to charge the battery
must be a big power bank
I have a 26000 bank with four panels @18w and to takes a good day to 2 days in the Cali sun to fully charge if there aren't any clouds. So yeah the claims that one solar cell with charge it that fast are very false... However if you left it out for 4-5 days it might fully charge. I love having our in case of emergencies, especially during fire season which is basically April to November for us.
I have a 10W 5-panel solar charger without a battery pack, meaning I can use my own battery packs and bring them with me in my pocket without the whole solar rig attached. Costs around $20 on eBay and there are a lot of them for sale. The actual measured output on mine is 5V 1.5A in direct sunlight, which is 7,5W. I didn't expect it to be that good honestly.
When I first saw a lit mobile ad I was impressed about it being able to charge solar style and having 20,000 mAh battery but i knew in the back of my head that they were full of bull
I've done some calculations and even under ideal conditions ie miday at the equator under blue sky. This power bank would take 15 hours to fully charge. I suspect the 25% indicator activates far below 25% to make people believe that it is doing something.
Probably the LED takes almost all the energy from the solar panel.
@@RaduTek not really tho. This panel can probably has an output of half a watt to a watt, and since an led takes like 0.02 Watt, that shouldn't be the issue
So, what you are saying is if you could halt the sun in the sky at its zenith for 15 hours, you would be golden. Nice. 😂
I came up with 54 days of direct sunlight to bring that power bank to 100% with direct sunlight 😄
Pretty sure he's misinterpreting what the lights mean. Because since it also has a 100% light, the 25% light means 0-25% NOT 25-49% as he seems to think (since by that logic the 100% light would mean 100-124% which makes no sense). 26-50% would be the 50% light.
I remember my reaction to the outrageous claims those adds made.
You have satisfied my curiosity in the qualities of the product. I'm actually a little surprised it's as useful as it is.
Can’t believe someone actually took it while you were testing the solar charging xD Really loved this video! It’s actually not as bad as I expected it. Also been quite a while since I’ve been this early :D
its about $30 on alibaba (USA shipping, order originates in Brazil), a far better price than $100
Kyle Absolutely. I mean for that it’s actually reasonable :D
Only thing better than a $10 power bank is a free power bank.
Andi Palmer How tf are you verified at 1k subs lmao
5:50 Just wanted to note as a trans/non-binary viewer that this little bit of inclusivity didn't go unnoticed
Remember when they changed it to "patriot" something for the 4th of July? They pretended it was a different company.
I am still getting those ads
If there’s optional branding and they’re so cheap it tells me that these are for a company to buy in bulk with their branding to give as gifts to their employees or customers
Thanks Ken for making this series. It's really great to see an honest, open review of something to get a much better feel and idea of what it's really about. It's interesting that as a power bank/wireless charger, it works rather well. It would be interesting though to see what the actual charging rate/output of those solar cells is, as it could be used to determine just how much of a charge/usage you can expect from it.
I would have tried charging a dead iphone to guesstimate how much of that solar was stored. But great video none the less!
4:02 Is this Linus Drop Tips?
Well... Thank you for this dive down the rabbit hole that is Lit Mobile. My Nine-year-old son saw these commercials and was begging me for one of these because we camp. I told him I would look into it and then found you. I thought these things looked a little too good to be true when he showed me the add, and you have saved me some money by doing the gunt work for me. My son, on the other hand, is not happy. :-)
Thanks again... You have a new subscriber in me.
This whole Lit Mobile debacle is what attracted me to your channel. I love the kind of content you make. Thanks for the distraction from all the morons and just down right despicable people(like whom ever owns Lit Mobile) that just make life pointless sometimes. Lol
That's why we were all saying that you should just charge-back before it is too late, as Lit Mobile is never going to send you a unit. They're intention is just to pocket the funds and hope folks wait until after it's too late to initiate a charge-back (typically 60-90 days after the transaction was done).
3:20 "Just install iOS 14 beta 1"
Pffft. That's funny. Chuckled for a bit when I read that.
I've been binge watching your videos. I'm hopping off here because of a Quantum Theory post that I want to watch. Once I want some tech entertainment, I'm coming back here. Awesome channel.
That face when ken lost his "lit mobile" solar charger (unofficial)
That same face when ken couldn't get Catalina installed on a old mac computer
I dont know im trying to be funny here
"It's slippery. Is it the lotion in my hand?" I hear you, bruh. Been there, done that. Pass the tissue. :D
I really think you need to start a new series of chasing products like this! I’ve loved the journey and am hungry for more!
1:30 Is that $20 for the battery bank and $30 of shipping. I understand how Lit Mobile is like "oh, 2 for 1 for $100"
Dude, just a heads up, some of the reviews on their site have changed to dong pics and big Chungus pics with hilarious reviews. Thought it would make a pretty funny video
Its nice to see someone deep diving into the world of technology and looking at the unique devices available in the market instead of smartphones. I look forward to more and I especially enjoy how you tackle said devices to the end and see if they are what they say they are able to provide to the buyer. Kudos to you, take care always, God bless, stay safe and continue to make the tech world a more high quality leveled place bit by bit.
I love how you said the same thing as the Lit Mobile Advertisment says.
He didn’t watch the video
4 Patriots Supply sells the same thing. Lots of adds about how great they are!
Computer Clan: drops battery
Linus: Son?
2muchjpop lol
I used to work for a solar company called renogy. I was a technician there. We sold this exact unit as well under our brand name. It’s just a generic unit.
Basically how it works/is marketed (at least on my old company’s side) the solar panel works somewhat as a battery tender. The built in panel is not meant to charge the unit from a low power state or from a dead state.
The unit is designed to be charged by your ac socket at home, and then the solar panel is meant to tend and keep the battery topped off in the field.
The solar technology they use is really crappy and inefficient. However with this technology, it should be able to recharge the battery from a 50% charge or above. However, this would take a really long time as again, the solar panel is only good as a battery tender and nothing more. It’s kind of like what the hell is the point? Lol
When Ken drops the charger - Ken, you're now a good replacement for Linus when he retires
Man this is the 4th new channel I've found this week my recommendations are on fire
I love how he just assumes im doing great each video, cause i can guarantee I'm not
Imagine being one of the people working there watching the intro and being like “yes he’s doing it” and then the music starts
Do you expect this tiny 2.5/5w solar panel to charge this power bank :D? No! Even with a 20/30w solar panel it would take like 2-3days.
How is there not a class-action lawsuit against these people?
It's amazing you found 90 minutes of sunlight with the weather we have been having.
Some of us haven't gotten rain in weeks even months yet other parts of the world like China it hasn't stopped raining in 47 days and even Wuhan is flooded.
Hello #KrazyKen. I did the same as you, I went and bought the Lit Solar. But, I bought it two different times, I guess I am a gambler... It did look so promising! Waited a good while and then gave up and requested my money back from my credit card company. Then, I went and bought one from Amazon. Almost identical to the Lit Solar. I did receive the device, pretty happy with it, and it is branded BLavor. At least, I got it, it works, and does what I wanted it to do. I paid $ 79.00 in CAD so not bad including the shipping cost that was passed on to me. Was very happy to hit on your show. I have subscribed, you sound like a great person to get help from. Thank you...
Apple is expecting you to charge your phone overnight, so iOS stops charging wirelessly at about 95%
Both my parents were lawyers so the first thing that came to my mind was class action?
That was a cool finale
I'm glad I got answers
Also your almost at 200k!
"Lit Mobile" is not a shady business... they're criminals. Plain and simple.
Send it to “GreatScott” for a hardcore testing !!!
Plot twist: Ken has a split personality named Nelson and posted that 5* review
4:00 Ah, I see you're trying to get hired by Linus!
"Big fiery ball in the sky"
Me:Kill Ball from Halo
That lit mobile was lit in the Thumbnail
I'm one of those suckers who bought a $40 litmobil back in November 2019, from a UA-cam ad. Unlike apparently a lot of people, I was lucky enough to get my product, pretty fast, and the thing works. I don't take it into the desert or anything, but just keep it by my bed side where I like to wirelessly charge my phone, and once in a rare while I use the light. It works. However, the solar doesn't seem to charge it very much, if at all, and I feel like an idiot for not shopping around and finding the $20 version. Oh well. Thanks for your review and this explains why their website is gone. They're on to the next grift, probably something involving crypto currency.
Ken: Hey guys how are you doing
Me: Oh thanks for aski...
Ken: REALLY THATS JUST GREATT
3:37
I think the phone was doing that because some of them have a feature that learns your routine and waits until you’re just about to wake up to fully charge the battery.
I got an ad for Artlist before this video even started...
*I think the world revolves around me now*
I love your stories, people usually discard all those background stuff...🤣🤣
I know why it didn't charge over (approx.) 25%.
Solar panels (especially ones this small) output a really low voltage, even when in direct sunlight. The battery's nominal voltage is around 3.7 volts, but even if there's a stepup converter (or buck boost) in the powerbank which can boost the voltage coming out of the solar panel, the battery can only be charged to an extent with only the solar panel, because it doesn't provide the necessary wattage for a full battery charge. The solar cell is just too small for the whole 3.7 volt battery to fully charge. With a rapid calculation, since it charged approx. 1/4 of the powerbank battery, you would atleast need 4 panels of that size connected in series, plus another 4 wired in parallel to the other 4, for extra amperes (more watts of power too). The powerbank itself could be cool, but it just doesn't have the actual hardware to pull the whole solar charging off.
I had one very much like that. Used it for a week while at my son's Cub Scout Jamboree. Even at 25% it kept my phone and a couple other ones going.
Ken: "the results weren't that bad, especially considering this thing, minus shipping, is only 11 bucks."
the shipping: $250
I’m glad to find this. Can you add this video link to the previous episodes? I didn’t know you got something until UA-cam pushed it to me in recommendation
Certainly. Good idea.
Your videos means a world for every one of us! Please do more this kind of videos !
A similar photovoltaic cell with only 1/5 of that surface, dried out in the garden for the entire day, only managed to lit up a single LED for only 6-7 hours.
Cracked me up seeing you do a fake Lit Mobile promo at the beginning, complete without showing your face. Brilliant!
Thanks : )
Exact same product line as Patriot. Just different group advertised to. looks like junk to me.
I ordered the USB C one in November 2019 and loved it (yes, we did actually get it and fairly quick too but certainly didn't pay full price). Of course the solar didn't work like it was supposed to but we expected that...loved the wireless charging feature the most. Liked it so much we ordered another along with one of their solar panels too in March 2020. BUT that's where I had issues since they shipped me 2 solar panels instead of the charger..and it was even on the packing slip that way. I sent multiple emails with no response (or I got the generic one), which I then forwarded to every email address they listed. Also tried the number and got the same response..so I finally filed a claim with my credit card. Lit Mobile actually contested the claim and sent a response to my credit card (I was surprised they actually responded)!!! So I had to file a rebuttal to my claim. I did get my money refunded completely after a couple months..and I was actually gonna order another until I found the website no longer existed..and I found your videos..WOW!!! I guess we got lucky!!!
I checked out the product on the Shenzhen Juding Technology Co website. All THEY say is it CAN be charged by solar. A (positive) verified purchase review suggests that it will take a couple of days in the sun to charge and even then it does not say it will charge to 100%, nor does it say where it the USA it was put out in the sun
(2 days of 16 hours per day of continuous bright sunlight perhaps?).
That said a 20Ah [20,000mAh = 20Ah] USB power brick for that price is not a bad product (for the price the original manufacturer sells it for).
Thanks for the videos, it has been interesting following this saga, even if we all had a pretty good idea of what the outcome would be.
[Liked and subscribed]
I kinda figured that solar charging part was a bit too good to be true. Keep up the great content
Thanks for making the videos. You've inspired me to follow up on my never-delivered, never-replied to scam purchase and contest the charge on these jerks.
Thanks for this the ads were getting creepier and more intrusive so I decided to search this up, I was nearly about to buy it
Ten months later and I still want to see a lit mobile ad parody
Loved the opening. Actually fooled me for a second 😂
I can not express how much I hate scammers, so, thanks for the work you do.
I almost just bought one. Your videos literally saved me, thanks!
The pre-roll ad I saw before this video was a guy allegedly being dragged around a parking lot by his low cut socks while he told the audience how amazing they were.
Good Samaritan. Sees a solar panel played out perfectly parallel to the wall in the sunlight and thinks someone "dropped it". Genius xD
Thanks for your comments about LitMobile's solar charger. I ordered a unit, never heard from the company. I sent several emails, but no response. I called and the phone was disconnected. I contacted American Express, my credit card, and they immediately credited my account. I guess they know what I found out from you and others--they're a SCAM! Thanks!
5:12 "I'm an idiot who cant even hold on to tech products without dropping them"
Linus: Hold my- oops
Since you mentioned Birdemic, I'm surprised that you didn't show yourself getting attacked by birds after you vacated your lair.