"I say Watchaaaa.. Where were you in 63'?" "I was... Elsewhere Another universe" "You say, you say you can be anywhere. What did you see?" "Doom" "I do declare..."
The break room has become my new night time talk show to watch before going to sleep....move over Kimmel and Colbert, the break room is where it's at! 😂
I think he’ll do an amazing job as Reed. I really wish we could see him play a geeky character first though. I sold on everything else. After watching Joseph Quinn’s projects and interviews I’m sold as him as Johnny.
I get what Hector is saying, but I think he is being too much of a fanboy about it. I think on the surface, they'll find a way to have it make all the sense, while still keeping a faithfulness to those elements in the comics. They can still change it up though to have it be fresh. I know it's hard for hardcore fans to separate the comics from the films, but I believe they can do their own thing and have it be unique and special in its own right while still being "loyal" to the comics. I can see them being in the 60s, coming to the present day and having a reason to remain there that is literally and thematically resonant to the characters....
its easy to say "theyll find a way" but when we all sit in that theater and theres tons of plot holes or its convoluted to make it make sense then what? I completely understand his hesitations and hes just passionate about these characters and theres nothing wrong with that.
I don’t get why Hector is really worried about the Fantastic Four taking place in the 60s I love the 60s of statics and I think they’ll come up with a way for the characters to show up in modern day, that makes sense in the narrative of MCU is telling I like it when Marvel expand the past history of the MCU
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn well I don’t think it’s stupid for them to argue about the Fantastic Four being from the 1960s I don’t get when Hector mentioned Star Trek is a good example for the team, but Star Trek came out in the 1960s when they were positive about the future the 60s is the perfect time when people are very optimistic about the future and it’s possibilities and I feel like once the team does go to the future why would they want to go back there they could bring their positivity could help the future be even brighter for the MCU timeline
The answer to why they would stay, is that now needs to be protected and if they go back they could detrimentally alter the timeline. Additionally, you said it yourself Hector. Reed is a futurist. He’d want to explore the future.
@@Doomer253Could be but this isn’t as interesting so far as how it informs the characters over time imo. I like the idea that Reed knew a young Hank Pym and some others, Howard Stark a bit. Not close or anything just familiar with each other. I like the idea that Hank learned a lot from Reed tho which ultimately lead to his discoveries.
Then why wouldn't he time travel even further into the future? Why stop at the year 2026 or wherever they are in the present MCU? Reed is not a futurist, he's a scientist. Always working to make the world he lives in a better place.
It's quite possible that the universe the fantastic four originate from gets destroyed during an incursion, forcing them to come to the sacred timeline universe
That are they start in 60s in MCU and get stuck in nega zone but come out in the present day, and once in the future you can’t really go back in time because you are then putting the timeline at risk by knowing the future. It’s really not that complicated and I don’t know why people are having so much trouble with the idea.
At the root of it, Hector just wants the story to be easily digestible to casual fans and I so agree. Just make F4 lovable with 0 complicated background stories and the people will come flocking. As a casual MCU fan, im slowly coming back from inactivity with the allure of F4 being something fresh
I heard Hector’s take on Heroes reforged and I get it, but I think it’s very likely that they will not return to their time period because the universe they’re coming from is gonna get either incursioned and/or gobbled by Galaktus.
Rare Hector L - genuinely though, I'm very intrigued by the 60s Fantasic Four, and It feels very much like the Jolt forward into the future will happen during their space mission - wormhole? Faulty jump point? Who knows!
I think Pedro is great for Reed. He can play the hero that’s kind of a jerk. And Reed has made tons of questionable decisions in the comics. It’s the cold logic of the scientist he is.
I think they are a modern day team that was starting their mission the moment that Thanos snapped. The combo of whatever the catalyst for their powers and the snap ends them up in the 60s and they spend that movie trying to get home to present day which they accomplish at the end of the movie.
I can totally see the southern senator superhero hearing bits being done "Pitch Meeting" style with a simple blurry backdrop and Hector just riffing his lines of questioning for different heroes! Titles like "Senator Navarro Grills the X-Men" or "Senator Hector Heckles Some Hulks" or "Scarlett Witch Has Some Explaining To Do" ("What exactly is a 'hex power'? _squints eyes_ Am I being hexed right now?") 😆 Thanks for that yes-anding y'all!
First of all, this was an amazing video, and I had a blast watching it. I just want to take a moment to thank everyone who is a part of this channel, both on and off camera. Secondly: Hector, I know you sometimes sift through the comments, and I would love to hear your opinion on something. (I'd of course like to hear anyone's opinions, if they're willing to contribute to the conversation without malice.) If I'm not mistaken, I believe an early FF adventure brings the team into the microverse, where Doom has essentially taken over the place. Sharing this idea, perhaps the FF team is from the present day, but upon receiving their powers - or shortly thereafter - they find themselves trapped in a different realm (the microverse or negative zone) and they encounter a lower tiered villain, such as Mole Man. What if this alternate realm or subuniverse originated in the 60's? Essentially, what if instead of the movie being set in the 60's, the FF find themselves in a PLACE set in the 60's, the same way that Counter-Earth was set in the 90's in GoTG Vol 3? Or would that still be too convoluted for more casual Marvel fans to latch onto? And lastly, if most or all of the story is set in the present day and the Valentines Day picture turns out to be more concept art than promotional material, I think a good villain could be Terrax. This could set up Galactus for a future film, and have a villain that could honestly be one and done. And if Terrax is defeated/killed, it would leave Galactus without a herald, which would eventually lead to Silver Surfer. Alternatively, if the movie is primarily set in the 60's, I think a more grounded villain could be someone like the Puppet Master - I think he'd be just goofy enough to fit in with the 60's vibe.
That's assuming they want to return to the past. I can see the F4 bar Reed being eager to return to the past but one by one see the benefits of living in the future. Jonny feels more excited to be around other superheroes, Sue and ben probably would feels less ostracized in the modern day than in the 60s and feel more free to be who they are, sure they had a home in the 60s but they have each other and thats all that matters to them in the end. The reason we want them to be from the past is to answer the question where has Reed been if he has been around for the past 20ish years. Shield would have picked him up loooong time ago to study the tesserect, the skrull bodies, etc etc. Banner would have called him to discuss the issue of time travel endgame. There are things that reed would have been a part of most certainly even in an unpowered state.
Them just being from the 60s as Astronauts and getting their powers during an tear in space is fine to me there is nothing to go back too cuz their family is all there with them 🤷🏾♂️ That tear being the negative zone.
This is how I would balance the 60's start with Hector's concern about explaining why Reed never figured out/tried to return to the 60's. You do it in a way that proves that Reed is actually the smartest man alive, and has/gains a better understanding of timelines and the multiverse than anyone else we've met so far. You can have a heartbreaking scene where Reed explains to the team that they can't go back to where they started because that place no longer exists. As soon as you go back in time, you've already created a parallel timeline/traveled to another universe. It might look and feel the same as your origin point--but it isn't. And creating new timelines also creates new, and duplicates existing, multiversal threats. He can explain that the Avengers weren't actually traveling back in their own timeline like they thought they were, but they were just jumping to a substantially similar timeline that looked and felt the same. Similarly with the Ms. Marvel time travel explanation/situation, our Kamala Khan was actually providing the origin story for another Universe's/timelines Kamala Khan--just like a different one started hers, providing even more potential incursion points. Reed comes to the realization that the time traveled FF are in the proper timeline in MCU present day. Trying to do anything else other than live in this timeline would be incredibly selfish and invite all sorts of new horrors. You can make it even more heart breaking by explaining that Ben's wife was left behind, and he has the depressing thought eventually that her never seeing him as the Thing might actually be a good thing, and that can be some emotional baggage he has to overcome, both with himself and his relationship with Reed. For the Doom of it all, I think you can explain it that Reed and the FF had a relationship with MCU's modern day Doom's grandfather (a version of which potentially becomes god emporer Doom because he's from a timeline/universe where there wasn't a FF to stop him). That way you keep actual Doom as a modern day villain and threat that can be developed in future projects, and can have another version become god emperor Doom to be used in Secret Wars sooner.
I agree w/ Hector. It would be weird for the Fantastic Four to be from the 60s imo: 1) why wouldn't they wanna go back to their own time/ universe? 2) how could Reed by the smartest man alive after he's brought into a world where technology is much more advanced than anything he's ever seen? Being a man out of time worked well for Steve Rogers, but I don't know if it would make sense for the Fantastic Four tbh.
Funniest BR episode ever!! I laughed so hard I coughed and choked. I'm 48 and almost died! I see another NR channel of all southern congressman discussions!
This is my first time watching a video by this channel and I really enjoyed it! especially enjoyed the comments and opinions from the guy in the middle, he has a really good understanding of what made the MCU enjoyable and what the issues are with a potential 60s premise for the F4 movie, many if not all of which I agreed with
I think the best solution is the one where they're from the present timeline, but get thrown back in time to the 60s for a short adventure, then come back again to the present.
If they make Molecule Man the "Spot" of the MCU, of Fantastic 4, I'd be totally on board for that. Across the Spider-Verse subverted so many expectations for such a silly villain as Spot and made him so menacing. Give Molecule Man the same treatment. Make him be the first act villain, the silly guy who gets taken down very easily, show off the F4 power sets and synergies, and have MM come back in a second movie or in Secret Wars much more powerful.
I believe that I speak for everyone here, for every new rockstar fan . . . That the FANTASTIC southern FOUR Lawyers! Now has to become it’s own thing on The Breakroom 👏🏼😂👏🏼😂👏🏼😂 GIVE THE FANS WHAT THEY WANT HECTOR! LOL
Oooh! Or! Doom "parked" the FF on an alternate earth, surrounded by LMDs and fighting Doombots! And then Doom took one look around at the state of the MCU and decided to hide the latverians in sokovia, biding his time until he could make Battleworld and fix the timeline overall in Secret Wars.
Herbie + 60's, what a way to introduce marvel first family hope we see them vs galactus with silver surfer not some cloud and tease dr doom for a sequel
I concur that time travel or multi verse is all the problems mentioned and a hat on a hat. The only major benefit being the where were they side step and our theory was if they riskily shoehorn in doom well, people might not notice all those issues. None of which sounds great, but the villain if not doom needs to be better than mole man and one we want to see come back.
I geniunely think Hector and others are just over thinking this. Time travel is timey wimey and can easily be used to explain their absence. Instead of them being "stuck" just have them go through an accidental tear in space-time and pull a Planet of the Apes where they come back to Earth and it's present day. As for it being another universe, I understand Marvel doing that so they'll be the only heroes who exist. It makes them unique and stand out, but also makes another universe actually seem real. Just like in Loki S2, right now everything that's not 616 is just lines on a screen. You show and build a world from another universe and it ends due to an Incursion, it will matter (btw that's how you solve how Reed doesn't figure out how to send them back). Either way idk why he's acting as if they won't stick around. They are going to be a pillar for the MCU moving forward. At the end of the day, people like Hector are going to have to let this go because unfortunately this is what happens when you have a connected universe that'll be 17 years in. We know they legally couldn't be around so this is the cleanest solution. The same thing is happening with the X-Men who will have an entire history after a reset.
But the X-MEN won't *NEED* an entire history after a rest, you can just start the X-Men from the beginning, like they did in 1963. I don't think it's unreasonable to "over-think" about this stuff, that's what Marvel comics is all about. And no matter how many years are added to the ongoing MCU story, Marvel Studios should be able to construct stories that fit within their canon, because, again, that's what Marvel is all about.
I think putting them in the 60s is smart because it makes the aspirational quality easier to achieve the past is easier to view in rose tinted glasses than any other time. You don’t have to worry about them leaving cause secret wars is gonna smash everything together for the reboot. This is to intro to general audiences so they recognize them in secret wars and then the reset puts them into continuity as they should be they are doing the same thing with mutants and deadpool. It’s a lot to introduce at once if it’s all obviously connected but if they go piece by piece then connect it people will understand better at the end than they ever would have along the way.
36:20 they should just make Galactus a Celestial. Maybe the first Celestial? The whole “we’re gonna judge you” threat from Arishem seems very Galactus of him. I think that would be a cool take on Galactus and it would make sense in the context of “ big space man with helmet”
It's pretty obvious that the MCU F4 will be from the 1960s of an Alternate universe Earth that is destroyed in a Multiversal Incursion incident. Incursion points will be the reason.
Why not do Annihilus and let the movie take place in the Negative Zone for a large portion of it? That can do their time dilation or whatever to bring them from the 60s to the present. Have your first act villain of Mole Man or whatever, then they "disappear" into the negative zone. For them it's not time travel as they were living in the negative zone for a bit.
As much as people say they don’t want origin stories, they do. Idk how many times I’ve heard people try theorize what exactly happened to Tom holland Spider-Man. Sure we know the basics, but given it’s the MCU and there’s other characters and settings on the board, what specifically happened? Did he get bit in a stark lab? Was uncle Ben killed by some avengers level threat and Pete wasn’t there to prevent it? Yes, we’re tired of seeing the same origin story, but the MCU has always had the opportunity to make it different by including other people and settings in the sand box. We could get an FF origin that is their origin, but still be completely different from what we’ve seen so far because they’re now allowed to interact with other people.
Yooo “The Southern Lawyer” segment needs to be a thing now 🤣🤣🤣💀
Legit hilarious 😂
Recurring/occassional, not regular :)
them going back and forth with evan laughing in the background killed me😭
Bro the Fantastic 4 on Trial skit is great!! 😂😂
"I say Watchaaaa..
Where were you in 63'?"
"I was... Elsewhere
Another universe"
"You say, you say you can be anywhere. What did you see?"
"Doom"
"I do declare..."
This needs to be a normal skit now😊
Give us the SouthernCut
The bit with the congressional hearing is pure GOLD!
Hector's Southern lawyer for the win! 🤣
I like how Hector brings comics to the table for reference. Being astronauts is one of the reasons I like the Fantastic Four.
The break room has become my new night time talk show to watch before going to sleep....move over Kimmel and Colbert, the break room is where it's at! 😂
You can tell Hector and Coy really love this shit with how they talk about it on here and in their own platforms.
the best two
The fact that Hectors "I'm just a simple country lawyer" face is the thumbnail is everything
I DO DECLARE I LOVE THIS THUMBNAIL
The more I think about it the more I like Pedro as Reed. I think he’s going to bring a lot more range to the role than people think.
I agree he's a talented actor
I think he’ll do an amazing job as Reed. I really wish we could see him play a geeky character first though. I sold on everything else. After watching Joseph Quinn’s projects and interviews I’m sold as him as Johnny.
Who doesn’t think that Pedro can’t act?
Galactus will be the “judgment of Arishem:” a CELESTIAL. Silver surfer will be his creation/his herald: an ETERNAL.
@@AnimeBronxA lot of people have been very vocal about him not being a “fit” forgetting that world class actors, you know; act.
I need a “Southern Lawyer” segment whenever Hector and Brandon are on the same episode lol
I get what Hector is saying, but I think he is being too much of a fanboy about it. I think on the surface, they'll find a way to have it make all the sense, while still keeping a faithfulness to those elements in the comics. They can still change it up though to have it be fresh.
I know it's hard for hardcore fans to separate the comics from the films, but I believe they can do their own thing and have it be unique and special in its own right while still being "loyal" to the comics.
I can see them being in the 60s, coming to the present day and having a reason to remain there that is literally and thematically resonant to the characters....
That’s my problem with him sometimes. I like him but dude relax
nothing new. He always has been like that.
its easy to say "theyll find a way" but when we all sit in that theater and theres tons of plot holes or its convoluted to make it make sense then what? I completely understand his hesitations and hes just passionate about these characters and theres nothing wrong with that.
7:05 his argument seems to be to not be loyal to the comics. That's why he doesn't want them to be from the 1960's. 11:32
I nominate Brandon and Hector to be cast as lawyers in a movie THIS INSTANT! 😂
Loved hectors fantastic 4 rant! Could not agree more about the 60s
HOW MUCH DO I NEED TO PAY TO GET A FULL HOUR OF THE "I'M JUST A SIMPLE LAWYER!" Need to have it.
Can we please have an hour of congressional hearings in the marvel universe?
The only congressional hearings worth watching!
I didn't know i needed to see Hector as a Southern congressman.
Those unhinged few minutes that was the southern lawyer bit is why we all love this channel.
I need an hour of the "BLANK" on trial. Episode series
Where do I send my money for this hour long trial scene?! 🤣🤣 haven't laughed that hard in a min!
I’ll laugh when Korg try’s to smooth talk Thing ,
This is that big-Hector-energy that's needed around these parts, @2:45.
I love Hector's energy!
Did Hector’s Southern Lawyer remind anyone of Tom Hanks in the Green Mile?! Lmao
We ALLLLL died at Hector's simple country lawyer 🤣🤣👏🏾
One of the funniest things on the channel 😂
I don’t get why Hector is really worried about the Fantastic Four taking place in the 60s I love the 60s of statics and I think they’ll come up with a way for the characters to show up in modern day, that makes sense in the narrative of MCU is telling I like it when Marvel expand the past history of the MCU
Right it's such a stupid thing to be arguing about
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn well I don’t think it’s stupid for them to argue about the Fantastic Four being from the 1960s I don’t get when Hector mentioned Star Trek is a good example for the team, but Star Trek came out in the 1960s when they were positive about the future the 60s is the perfect time when people are very optimistic about the future and it’s possibilities and I feel like once the team does go to the future why would they want to go back there they could bring their positivity could help the future be even brighter for the MCU timeline
@@samanthamaclean1430I think it's dumb to debate this stuff
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn I think it's ironic that you're commenting this on a NEW ROCKSTARS video, lol.
Yeah because F4 is their own family they would have no reason to want to go back to 60s.
Hector had me DYING with the Southern lawyer bit 🤣🤣🤣
The MCU versus a southern lawyer….a battle for the ages 😄
The answer to why they would stay, is that now needs to be protected and if they go back they could detrimentally alter the timeline. Additionally, you said it yourself Hector. Reed is a futurist. He’d want to explore the future.
I think Victor von Doom staying / being in modern times would be the best reason
I think it's even simpler than that. Incursion. The FF's 1960s Earth/Universe is destroyed.
@@ahmetsahin263Good point.
@@Doomer253Could be but this isn’t as interesting so far as how it informs the characters over time imo. I like the idea that Reed knew a young Hank Pym and some others, Howard Stark a bit. Not close or anything just familiar with each other. I like the idea that Hank learned a lot from Reed tho which ultimately lead to his discoveries.
Then why wouldn't he time travel even further into the future? Why stop at the year 2026 or wherever they are in the present MCU?
Reed is not a futurist, he's a scientist. Always working to make the world he lives in a better place.
It's quite possible that the universe the fantastic four originate from gets destroyed during an incursion, forcing them to come to the sacred timeline universe
That are they start in 60s in MCU and get stuck in nega zone but come out in the present day, and once in the future you can’t really go back in time because you are then putting the timeline at risk by knowing the future. It’s really not that complicated and I don’t know why people are having so much trouble with the idea.
Agree. It's so clear that this is how Marvel will do it.
At the root of it, Hector just wants the story to be easily digestible to casual fans and I so agree. Just make F4 lovable with 0 complicated background stories and the people will come flocking. As a casual MCU fan, im slowly coming back from inactivity with the allure of F4 being something fresh
EXACTLY! = D
That trial bit was absolutely GOLD!!! I want that video!!!! Lol
43:45 watching you guys spit ball the courtroom scene was hilarious and amazing 😅😂🎉
Nah disagree with hector, the 60s is perfect and something different than what the mcu usually does. I wanna see it
I find him to be really irritating
Agree and I want to see it also
I heard Hector’s take on Heroes reforged and I get it, but I think it’s very likely that they will not return to their time period because the universe they’re coming from is gonna get either incursioned and/or gobbled by Galaktus.
Why would they want to go back to 60s?
@@Byronic19134if their lives were in the 60s why not? Not everyone loves to travel to the future
Rare Hector L - genuinely though, I'm very intrigued by the 60s Fantasic Four, and It feels very much like the Jolt forward into the future will happen during their space mission - wormhole? Faulty jump point? Who knows!
Well, I appreciate you saying an L is rare for me, lol.
I think I'm maybe a 50/50 guy, but thanks. = )
@@hectorminator meant no malice behind my comment btw, just that I disagreed with your points on this one! :)
@@ashtheash5695 haha none taken! Thanks!!
Keep bringing Hector back. The man is hilarious. That is all.
Also irritating for a grown man in his mid 30s
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn don’t find him irritating at all, he’s passionate in what he believes and is very knowledgeable in what he says
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn you're really committed to talking about how much you dislike Hector lol. Maybe get a hobby
@@Lisa_Flowers I'll do whatever I want Lisa fascist
@@Lisa_Flowers Don't waste your time on the haters; I think Hector would encourage you to avoid feeding the trolls 😉
Sue takes one look at Namor and tells Reed they can't go back.
Lol mcu namor is so pudgy
THIS I like.
@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn this comment sucks, dude.
Galactus will be the “judgment of Arishem:” a CELESTIAL. Silver surfer will be his creation/his herald: an ETERNAL.
@@hectorminator it's true
I think Pedro is great for Reed. He can play the hero that’s kind of a jerk. And Reed has made tons of questionable decisions in the comics. It’s the cold logic of the scientist he is.
This cast is so talented and it’ll be so exciting to see them play Marvel’s First Family!!!! 💫💫💫💫
Me too
I'm loving the smalltown bird lawyer situation y'all are cooking!
I think they are a modern day team that was starting their mission the moment that Thanos snapped. The combo of whatever the catalyst for their powers and the snap ends them up in the 60s and they spend that movie trying to get home to present day which they accomplish at the end of the movie.
That *would* line up with what Rocket said in 2018 after Thanos snapped the second time to destroy the stones...
I like this idea.
I can totally see the southern senator superhero hearing bits being done "Pitch Meeting" style with a simple blurry backdrop and Hector just riffing his lines of questioning for different heroes! Titles like "Senator Navarro Grills the X-Men" or "Senator Hector Heckles Some Hulks" or "Scarlett Witch Has Some Explaining To Do" ("What exactly is a 'hex power'? _squints eyes_ Am I being hexed right now?") 😆 Thanks for that yes-anding y'all!
Danny Devito should play The Mole Man
I think the best explanation would be to have a 5- 10 min. intro of the 4 getting there powers and the same incident launches them back to the 60s
Y'all ABSOLUTELY SOLD ME on Marvel legal dramas.......I NEED THIS!!!!!!!!
They do have some amazing lawyers
First of all, this was an amazing video, and I had a blast watching it. I just want to take a moment to thank everyone who is a part of this channel, both on and off camera.
Secondly: Hector, I know you sometimes sift through the comments, and I would love to hear your opinion on something. (I'd of course like to hear anyone's opinions, if they're willing to contribute to the conversation without malice.) If I'm not mistaken, I believe an early FF adventure brings the team into the microverse, where Doom has essentially taken over the place. Sharing this idea, perhaps the FF team is from the present day, but upon receiving their powers - or shortly thereafter - they find themselves trapped in a different realm (the microverse or negative zone) and they encounter a lower tiered villain, such as Mole Man. What if this alternate realm or subuniverse originated in the 60's? Essentially, what if instead of the movie being set in the 60's, the FF find themselves in a PLACE set in the 60's, the same way that Counter-Earth was set in the 90's in GoTG Vol 3? Or would that still be too convoluted for more casual Marvel fans to latch onto?
And lastly, if most or all of the story is set in the present day and the Valentines Day picture turns out to be more concept art than promotional material, I think a good villain could be Terrax. This could set up Galactus for a future film, and have a villain that could honestly be one and done. And if Terrax is defeated/killed, it would leave Galactus without a herald, which would eventually lead to Silver Surfer.
Alternatively, if the movie is primarily set in the 60's, I think a more grounded villain could be someone like the Puppet Master - I think he'd be just goofy enough to fit in with the 60's vibe.
That's assuming they want to return to the past. I can see the F4 bar Reed being eager to return to the past but one by one see the benefits of living in the future. Jonny feels more excited to be around other superheroes, Sue and ben probably would feels less ostracized in the modern day than in the 60s and feel more free to be who they are, sure they had a home in the 60s but they have each other and thats all that matters to them in the end. The reason we want them to be from the past is to answer the question where has Reed been if he has been around for the past 20ish years. Shield would have picked him up loooong time ago to study the tesserect, the skrull bodies, etc etc. Banner would have called him to discuss the issue of time travel endgame. There are things that reed would have been a part of most certainly even in an unpowered state.
I don’t see any reason why they would want to go back to the 60s.
20:35 the start of the funniest break room commentary lol. Broke my chest in
This was informative with great dialogue and HILARIOUS!
Them just being from the 60s as Astronauts and getting their powers during an tear in space is fine to me there is nothing to go back too cuz their family is all there with them 🤷🏾♂️ That tear being the negative zone.
This is how I would balance the 60's start with Hector's concern about explaining why Reed never figured out/tried to return to the 60's. You do it in a way that proves that Reed is actually the smartest man alive, and has/gains a better understanding of timelines and the multiverse than anyone else we've met so far. You can have a heartbreaking scene where Reed explains to the team that they can't go back to where they started because that place no longer exists. As soon as you go back in time, you've already created a parallel timeline/traveled to another universe. It might look and feel the same as your origin point--but it isn't. And creating new timelines also creates new, and duplicates existing, multiversal threats. He can explain that the Avengers weren't actually traveling back in their own timeline like they thought they were, but they were just jumping to a substantially similar timeline that looked and felt the same. Similarly with the Ms. Marvel time travel explanation/situation, our Kamala Khan was actually providing the origin story for another Universe's/timelines Kamala Khan--just like a different one started hers, providing even more potential incursion points. Reed comes to the realization that the time traveled FF are in the proper timeline in MCU present day. Trying to do anything else other than live in this timeline would be incredibly selfish and invite all sorts of new horrors. You can make it even more heart breaking by explaining that Ben's wife was left behind, and he has the depressing thought eventually that her never seeing him as the Thing might actually be a good thing, and that can be some emotional baggage he has to overcome, both with himself and his relationship with Reed. For the Doom of it all, I think you can explain it that Reed and the FF had a relationship with MCU's modern day Doom's grandfather (a version of which potentially becomes god emporer Doom because he's from a timeline/universe where there wasn't a FF to stop him). That way you keep actual Doom as a modern day villain and threat that can be developed in future projects, and can have another version become god emperor Doom to be used in Secret Wars sooner.
I need more of the court stuff. That was HILARIOUS
Maybe F4 were in the 60’s for the whole movie. Then at the last second, Deadpool grabs them and brings them to BattleWorld.
The southern lawyer bit was hilarious! I was dyin!!!
I need an hour long version of this court room bit🤣🤣
PLEASE make an ad-libbed movie about a superhero trial based in the 60s 😂
I need an Hector / Coy / Erik Breakroom episode. Those guys are experts and so passionate and fascinating to listen to.
So at 25:47 we just gone glance over the fact bro just did the most perfect impression of Ivan Vanko
I VANT MY BIRD! lol thanks
@@hectorminator no problem man if he somehow was needed for a “What If” Episode you would be perfect lol
I agree w/ Hector. It would be weird for the Fantastic Four to be from the 60s imo:
1) why wouldn't they wanna go back to their own time/ universe?
2) how could Reed by the smartest man alive after he's brought into a world where technology is much more advanced than anything he's ever seen?
Being a man out of time worked well for Steve Rogers, but I don't know if it would make sense for the Fantastic Four tbh.
So the southern lawyer shtick can be its own episode of The Breakroom
27:22 I'd love to see the bromance between Spider-Man & Human Torch lol. I don't know if we'll get that in the MCU tho, maybe in an animated show.
Funniest BR episode ever!! I laughed so hard I coughed and choked. I'm 48 and almost died! I see another NR channel of all southern congressman discussions!
This is my first time watching a video by this channel and I really enjoyed it! especially enjoyed the comments and opinions from the guy in the middle, he has a really good understanding of what made the MCU enjoyable and what the issues are with a potential 60s premise for the F4 movie, many if not all of which I agreed with
Oooh ... Do ya'all remember in Wanda-vision ...that dude told Photon, they stopped their space explorer program, they're scared?
I need the Brandon & Hector hour. 😂😂😂😂😂
The future of the MCU is bright 🎉
Agree 💙
I love the Southern lawyer bit.😁
“Now Miss Storm I find most women invisible - I do not hear them I do not see them.” 😂
Best line from a great impromptu improv!
I want to hear Brandon Barrick do his best Vince Vaughn impression.
34:25 I love the 2005 Fantastic Four films
Hector's Southern lawyer needs to be picked up by Marvel Oppenheimer style asap!
I think the best solution is the one where they're from the present timeline, but get thrown back in time to the 60s for a short adventure, then come back again to the present.
If they make Molecule Man the "Spot" of the MCU, of Fantastic 4, I'd be totally on board for that. Across the Spider-Verse subverted so many expectations for such a silly villain as Spot and made him so menacing. Give Molecule Man the same treatment. Make him be the first act villain, the silly guy who gets taken down very easily, show off the F4 power sets and synergies, and have MM come back in a second movie or in Secret Wars much more powerful.
I believe that I speak for everyone here, for every new rockstar fan . . . That the FANTASTIC southern FOUR Lawyers! Now has to become it’s own thing on The Breakroom 👏🏼😂👏🏼😂👏🏼😂
GIVE THE FANS WHAT THEY WANT HECTOR! LOL
Oooh! Or! Doom "parked" the FF on an alternate earth, surrounded by LMDs and fighting Doombots! And then Doom took one look around at the state of the MCU and decided to hide the latverians in sokovia, biding his time until he could make Battleworld and fix the timeline overall in Secret Wars.
Wait wasn't there a castle that Moon Knight was teleported to? I'm wondering if that might have been Latveria
Best Breakroom yet 😂😂😂 I want that Marvel trial by Southern Lawyer movie!!
Gold. Could have had Hector doing his bit and She Hulk during hers in the She Hulk series.
I’d watch the courtroom segment every week! Hilarious!
Herbie + 60's, what a way to introduce marvel first family hope we see them vs galactus with silver surfer not some cloud and tease dr doom for a sequel
I concur that time travel or multi verse is all the problems mentioned and a hat on a hat. The only major benefit being the where were they side step and our theory was if they riskily shoehorn in doom well, people might not notice all those issues. None of which sounds great, but the villain if not doom needs to be better than mole man and one we want to see come back.
Moonknight later Gator's
Isaiah Bradley was supposedly active in the 60s
Can we get Hector to do more Trials of the Marvel Universe???
I geniunely think Hector and others are just over thinking this. Time travel is timey wimey and can easily be used to explain their absence. Instead of them being "stuck" just have them go through an accidental tear in space-time and pull a Planet of the Apes where they come back to Earth and it's present day.
As for it being another universe, I understand Marvel doing that so they'll be the only heroes who exist. It makes them unique and stand out, but also makes another universe actually seem real. Just like in Loki S2, right now everything that's not 616 is just lines on a screen. You show and build a world from another universe and it ends due to an Incursion, it will matter (btw that's how you solve how Reed doesn't figure out how to send them back). Either way idk why he's acting as if they won't stick around. They are going to be a pillar for the MCU moving forward.
At the end of the day, people like Hector are going to have to let this go because unfortunately this is what happens when you have a connected universe that'll be 17 years in. We know they legally couldn't be around so this is the cleanest solution. The same thing is happening with the X-Men who will have an entire history after a reset.
But the X-MEN won't *NEED* an entire history after a rest, you can just start the X-Men from the beginning, like they did in 1963.
I don't think it's unreasonable to "over-think" about this stuff, that's what Marvel comics is all about. And no matter how many years are added to the ongoing MCU story, Marvel Studios should be able to construct stories that fit within their canon, because, again, that's what Marvel is all about.
This was a hilarious episode lol Brandon and Hector are my dudes!! Lol
Hector on your show? Guess this is the first time I'm watching!
Petition for the southern country lawyer 45 min show 😂 please please please!
I'd watch the trial series.
Herbie should be Franklin and Valerias babysitter and they have some minor problem to showcase their powers and affect the plot in a vital way.
Hector is doing his best Chuck Schumer impression in the thumbnail 🤣🤣
Great show!!
I'm looking forward to Red Ghost and his Super-Apes! 🤣
What about fantastic four vs the Councils of kangs
I think putting them in the 60s is smart because it makes the aspirational quality easier to achieve the past is easier to view in rose tinted glasses than any other time. You don’t have to worry about them leaving cause secret wars is gonna smash everything together for the reboot. This is to intro to general audiences so they recognize them in secret wars and then the reset puts them into continuity as they should be they are doing the same thing with mutants and deadpool. It’s a lot to introduce at once if it’s all obviously connected but if they go piece by piece then connect it people will understand better at the end than they ever would have along the way.
36:20 they should just make Galactus a Celestial. Maybe the first Celestial? The whole “we’re gonna judge you” threat from Arishem seems very Galactus of him. I think that would be a cool take on Galactus and it would make sense in the context of “ big space man with helmet”
It's pretty obvious that the MCU F4 will be from the 1960s of an Alternate universe Earth that is destroyed in a Multiversal Incursion incident.
Incursion points will be the reason.
Hector’s got some great points. And he’s a great dude.
Why not do Annihilus and let the movie take place in the Negative Zone for a large portion of it? That can do their time dilation or whatever to bring them from the 60s to the present. Have your first act villain of Mole Man or whatever, then they "disappear" into the negative zone. For them it's not time travel as they were living in the negative zone for a bit.
As much as people say they don’t want origin stories, they do. Idk how many times I’ve heard people try theorize what exactly happened to Tom holland Spider-Man. Sure we know the basics, but given it’s the MCU and there’s other characters and settings on the board, what specifically happened? Did he get bit in a stark lab? Was uncle Ben killed by some avengers level threat and Pete wasn’t there to prevent it? Yes, we’re tired of seeing the same origin story, but the MCU has always had the opportunity to make it different by including other people and settings in the sand box. We could get an FF origin that is their origin, but still be completely different from what we’ve seen so far because they’re now allowed to interact with other people.