What If Marth Betrays Sheena in Fire Emblem 12 Lunatic Reverse? [TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYALS]

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  • @CollectorTogami
    @CollectorTogami  7 років тому +203

    To clarify, Sheena and Samson are unable to attack the Gra troops themselves, as the option to do so will not show up.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому +1

      Collector Togami
      What Chapter is this?

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому +1

      Collector Togami
      What Chapter is this?

    • @Majo_Ellen
      @Majo_Ellen 7 років тому +15

      In the SNES version she can kill her troops for EXP! >W>

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому +8

      +Rui ルイ
      I won't even attempt a Betrayal at all.
      If I did, heads will roll.

    • @endeavorrattata7839
      @endeavorrattata7839 6 років тому +2

      But then in Book 2 of Fe3 (Yes that means fe12 is the remake of Fe3 Book 2) Sheema and Samson can attack Gra units themselves.

  • @SpikeOriundo
    @SpikeOriundo 7 років тому +409

    Trust broke
    Understandable have a nice day

  • @indigoasis
    @indigoasis 7 років тому +291

    "Sire, to keep fighting like this is pointless."
    Well said, Jagen. Well said.

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  7 років тому +24

      AlmondJuice I was wondering how long until someone picked up on that lmao

  • @SWad250
    @SWad250 7 років тому +259

    "Trust broke" is my favorite thing about this What If.

    • @tokkyu6497
      @tokkyu6497 7 років тому +2

      Swedish X ikr

    • @endeavorrattata7839
      @endeavorrattata7839 6 років тому +3

      Trust is condom in my country. That means she's pregnant amiright?

    • @ImmaLittlePip
      @ImmaLittlePip 5 років тому +1

      Fire emblem trust no one

  • @ryangallagher9723
    @ryangallagher9723 4 роки тому +33

    fun fact: if you trade sheena the lightsphere before killing a gra soldier, it won't drop if you kill her, meaning you will be literally incapable of inflicting damage on hardin, and thus incapable of getting either the good or bad ending. fe12 wanted to add in a cute little detail and ended up making room for a game-breaking softlock. sure, it's so specific that you've only got yourself to blame if you do it, but the point is that it's possible.

  • @Omperor
    @Omperor 6 років тому +91

    Prince "If You're a Dragon, Get In the Corpse Wagon" Marth
    Prince "Paint the Town Red With Reds" Marth
    Prince "Better Dead Than Red" Marth
    Prince "Only Blue Lives Matter" Marth
    Prince "A Crime It Is Not, To Slay a Thot" Marth
    Prince "You Can't Spell Grave Without Gra" Marth

  • @D.Dragon
    @D.Dragon 7 років тому +163

    Roses are red,
    Enemy units are too,
    So when they joined,
    They didn't have privileges of being blue.

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  7 років тому +13

      Douglas Dragon I can't help but admire your dedication to do this in multiple videos

    • @D.Dragon
      @D.Dragon 7 років тому +7

      'Multiple'? I think I've been doing it in hundreds of videos now.

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  7 років тому +6

      amazing

    • @Itnotfunny
      @Itnotfunny 7 років тому +1

      Douglas Dragon nah the god of betrayal is Kain from ff4

    • @everettwatsonrazorearcwolf6553
      @everettwatsonrazorearcwolf6553 2 роки тому

      @@Itnotfunny facts

  • @SorenArcwind
    @SorenArcwind 7 років тому +52

    "Oh, don't get mad, Sheema. We can revive that generic soldier with the Aum staff."

    • @ryangallagher9723
      @ryangallagher9723 3 роки тому +5

      You actually can't. Even if that soldier was playable, you wouldn't be able to revive him, because in Lunatic Reverse, the Aum staff is unobtainable due to requiring the Warp staff, which was replaced with a Fortify staff in the higher difficulty setting. You can't just use the Thief staff to open the chest in Chapter 23 containing it, because there's an enemy dark mage standing on top of the chest, preventing it from being obtained without first warping a unit in to kill them. You also can't kill them from a distance with 3-10 range weapons, since the game's only siege tomes (Meteor and Swarm) are enemy-exclusive and there are no playable ballisticians. FE12's idea of difficulty is taking the player's toys away from them. You can't get the second Hammerne staff in the same chapter for the same reason. (Lunatic and Lunatic Reverse also remove the Silence staff and the Silver Card, FYI.)

  • @mauvedragontiddies9244
    @mauvedragontiddies9244 7 років тому +95

    Takumi: "I AM BETRAYAL!"
    Marth: "Hold my beer."

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому

      Der Slendy
      Look at this dude!
      Hahahahahaha!
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @eltrashcan6486
    @eltrashcan6486 7 років тому +72

    The best part is when "Trust" broke.

  • @TheMadRedHatter
    @TheMadRedHatter 7 років тому +182

    Move aside, Takumi. Marth is the new betrayal.

    • @cucosuzu
      @cucosuzu 7 років тому +9

      Doctor Anime New betray my ass

    • @dancingfuriously
      @dancingfuriously 7 років тому +17

      Takumi Of Hoshido I'm the classic betrayal, so, please...

    • @Tonypikmin
      @Tonypikmin 7 років тому +4

      Prince Lyon Nuh, huh. Hardin is.

    • @dancingfuriously
      @dancingfuriously 7 років тому +3

      Tonyair awww, don't spoil my precious moment.
      It's true, though.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому +1

      Prince Lyon
      Hah!

  • @Afuwall
    @Afuwall 7 років тому +114

    Rip Trust

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark 4 роки тому +11

    Ironic since in FE3 the best way to train Sheema is to give her the star orb and have her kill her own troops.

  • @OmegaCKL
    @OmegaCKL 6 років тому +14

    I like how on top of this, Arran was the one to kill.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 років тому +3

      Arran : Your orders, sire?
      Jagen : Dammit Marth!

    • @5577Step
      @5577Step 4 роки тому +1

      Kris: *Fights the urge to laugh*

    • @MapleHero120
      @MapleHero120 4 роки тому

      Because Arran and Samson actually knows each other?

  • @hypertane
    @hypertane 7 років тому +26

    "Trust broke"

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 7 років тому +42

    What if you get abel killed before he and est betray you

    • @SurfingKyogreNL
      @SurfingKyogreNL 7 років тому +5

      I don't think you meet him before that point

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 7 років тому

      SurfingKyogre but can you kill them. I just want to see mystery of thr embelm more

    • @genericanimepicture3559
      @genericanimepicture3559 6 років тому

      ivanbluecool NANI??!!

  • @kaga2788
    @kaga2788 7 років тому +44

    Is that Sigurd? 0:32

    • @indigoasis
      @indigoasis 7 років тому +1

      Kaga 27 hah looks like it, but that's Samson.

    • @domc8089
      @domc8089 7 років тому +1

      GM go fuck yourself

    • @kaga2788
      @kaga2788 7 років тому +12

      Uncle Owain Gm?

    • @yes1667
      @yes1667 6 років тому +2

      Uncle Owain Nigga what

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark 7 років тому +7

    Sucks Sheema is so bad in this one. In FE3 you could give her the star orb, kill all her own troops, then solo the army in the next chapter and end up maxing every stat. Also "Trust broke" was priceless.

  • @nykita427
    @nykita427 7 років тому +6

    I replayed the game just to see this dialogue
    I wasn't able to find it on the Internet for some reason

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому

      Nikita Krivko
      Fire Emblem 12 is the only Nintendo DS Game that is not released overseas, sadly. But the only video in youtube about that game is "this".

  • @oussama7132
    @oussama7132 7 років тому +34

    *TRUST MACHINE BROKE*

    • @rosevans
      @rosevans 7 років тому +3

      *UNDERSTANDABLE, HAVE A NICE DAY.*

  • @nicharris7880
    @nicharris7880 7 років тому +19

    *Insert obligatory "I AM BETRAYAL" comment*

  • @ziggymcdougal
    @ziggymcdougal 7 років тому +3

    RIP Samson and highest speed base in B2

  • @simondupuis8372
    @simondupuis8372 7 років тому +21

    But what happens if you attack a gra soldier and they kill you ( since they attack first on lunatic reverse?) would marth's team become red??

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому +4

      Simon-Pierre Dupuis
      You musn't engage the Gra Soldiers in battle at all costs if you wanted Sheema to fight at your cause.

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 6 років тому +4

      22 Atk with a forged Silver Lance and 3 Speed...it'd take more effort to get killed by them than to kill them.

    • @ChillstoneBlakeBlast
      @ChillstoneBlakeBlast 6 років тому +1

      They killed in self defense

  • @joshuapotter5940
    @joshuapotter5940 7 років тому +5

    I talked with him on discord with broken trust. he liked the quotes i made.
    Said quotes:
    Betrayl...betrayl...I AM BETRAYL.
    Let me give you one final lesson. Know one thing, and people betray each other. It's a fact of life. -James McCloud, F-Zero: The legend of Falcon.

    • @Mario2980
      @Mario2980 7 років тому

      Joshua Potter Even if there's no connection despite Nintendo putting so much bullshit with that excuse, that would pretty much sum up Pigma betraying the team...

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 7 років тому +11

    What if naya dies if sirius cant save her or what if sirius dies.

    • @HenT8991
      @HenT8991 7 років тому +7

      The bishops if you dont recruit them will be hostile to you and when you have to fight Medeus and you bring his health to zero he will devour one of the four bishops to regain his health. Or you kill them before trying to kill Medeus.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 7 років тому +1

      soullordT8 I know that. I just never risk it. I meant if it has any special support. Anyways thanks

  • @hiropisku1078
    @hiropisku1078 7 років тому +2

    After breaking Trust, Arran would soon get a weapon from Marth called "Betrayal"

  • @AnjnShan
    @AnjnShan 5 років тому

    I appreciate the dedication to the meme. You forged a weapon named trust and got it down to low enough health just to break it. Evil. Chaotic evil.
    and Marth's 69 XP sealed it.

  • @zeroaragaki4570
    @zeroaragaki4570 6 років тому +4

    top 10- wait what? its already in the title

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  6 років тому +3

      I am sufficiently self aware of my shitposting

    • @zeroaragaki4570
      @zeroaragaki4570 6 років тому +3

      +Collector Togami i see you're a man of culture as well

  • @5577Step
    @5577Step 5 років тому

    "Trust nobody". *Inserts Dorcas quote here*

  • @sanguinecalamus191
    @sanguinecalamus191 7 років тому

    Looks like they decided that they missed red.

  • @Joshua-tv6jq
    @Joshua-tv6jq 7 років тому +12

    Coulda made it worse by gaining a level lol

  • @kirimusse
    @kirimusse 3 роки тому +3

    So, they could code this, but they couldn't code Navarre not attacking women while being an enemy?

  • @mauvedragontiddies9244
    @mauvedragontiddies9244 7 років тому +1

    At least she wasn't a green unit.

  • @thomaskitsune
    @thomaskitsune 3 роки тому

    Samson looks like Sigurd.

  • @UnlimitedMrX
    @UnlimitedMrX 7 років тому

    I didn't know Sigurd was in this game

  • @anibalvaldebenito8810
    @anibalvaldebenito8810 7 років тому

    Is the audio that bad on the game??

  • @arcadium3459
    @arcadium3459 7 років тому +1

    "Trust broke!"
    ...Was this intentional?

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому +6

      C.B. Hylton
      Yes,because the Name of the Spear is edited.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 років тому

      @Zxylo 5
      Oh hello there!

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 років тому

      @Zxylo 5
      Could I ask you a favor?

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 років тому

      @Zxylo 5
      Its not much of an issue but my phone is rebooted and my Fire Emblem Statistical Data is scattered throughout the UA-cam(still mostly Fire Emblem Content).
      You should collect all these data and bring and post them here at this video.
      Including the datum about MY OWN STATS too.
      I'll give you a Master Crown to promote into a Gold Knight after.
      Its right here :
      👑

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 років тому

      @Zxylo 5
      Just help me try to recover them all.
      This is a Year-Long Sidequest so you can do it anytime.
      Just find a conversation with me trying to Silver-tongue a random person into becoming a Fire Emblem Unit.

  • @piojoaquinlopez8881
    @piojoaquinlopez8881 6 років тому

    What does reverse lunatic mean?

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  6 років тому +1

      Lunatic is the hardest regular difficulty mode. Lunatic Reverse is when the AI always gets the first move even during the player phase. It's the same as Lunatic+

  • @teeloffel8588
    @teeloffel8588 6 років тому

    what if you seize right after you betrayed her?

  • @brenscott5416
    @brenscott5416 2 роки тому

    That lag bro, big oof

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 7 років тому +4

    SAMSON WOOOOO

  • @torri776
    @torri776 3 роки тому

    This is NOT an anime betrayal. It feels very REAL.
    As my favorite Fire Emblem, and the last of the good entries, I will explain why I adore this scene (that I had not seen previously, ironically). It only makes me like this DS masterpiece even more, because just think of Sheema's perspective! With only a few lines of dialogue from both Sheema and Samson, you can sense the building distrust, and it's very relatable.
    The feelings of betrayal are among the strongest feelings any human being can ever experience, and the way it's handled here is PERFECT.

  • @applelaw8741
    @applelaw8741 7 років тому +1

    Rip trust

  • @KaiAlter
    @KaiAlter 7 років тому

    What happened?

  • @MrJuan3034
    @MrJuan3034 7 років тому

    I love you collector togami

  • @grottosstuff
    @grottosstuff 7 років тому +2

    Tacomeat is jealous

    • @Mario2980
      @Mario2980 7 років тому

      Some Guy at the Soupermarket Hmm, that's an odd name for a pineapple...

  • @zephyfoxy
    @zephyfoxy 6 років тому

    why is it so laggy

  • @jason200912
    @jason200912 6 років тому

    i felt her pain.

  • @eldiegollador7271
    @eldiegollador7271 7 років тому +4

    D I S G U S T I N G

  • @dankwatermelon1504
    @dankwatermelon1504 7 років тому

    What system is this for? Anyone

    • @thelssekai3266
      @thelssekai3266 7 років тому

      obitrizzle Nintendo DS, but it is a Japanese exclusive, so either emulation or an English patch are necessary to play in English.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому

      Thels Sekai
      How do I play this one again?

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 років тому

      Thels Sekai
      I can now play this game in English. No consequences! No limits! Only glory!

  • @endeavorrattata7839
    @endeavorrattata7839 7 років тому

    In my country Trust is a condom brand. There are you happy?

  • @mikeh5328
    @mikeh5328 7 років тому

    You could of at least put a spoiler warning on the video title

  • @SethJV
    @SethJV 6 років тому

    This game was really ugly, man.

  • @nutterbutter9404
    @nutterbutter9404 7 років тому

    "Trust broke"