Ten tips: 1) Practice gun mount at home using a laser in the barrel of the shotgun 2) Practice footwork and swing at home 3) If possible shoot with both eyes open 4) Soft focus at distant...the eyes focus on the target quicker that way 5) Repeat at each station until success. 6) Shoot singles with success. For example, in skeet start by shooting singles at all incoming targets. 7) Practice consistent look point, hold point, kill area 8) Focus small...try to focus on a dime sized area of the leading edge of the clay 9) Keep head on stock and follow thru. 10) Practice follow thru by swinging to broken piece of clay.
Tip 3 is a simple one but your explanation of how to overcome that posture was great! I will have to remember that next time I'm dealing with a new shooter.
I’m really new to shooting but I’ve definitely caught the bug so am going to have some lessons in the new year. These videos are great for explaining simply some of the basics that I haven’t understood when going on experience days so thank you! I’d love to know more about initial gun selection, there’s a lot of options out there and you can end up spending a lot of money so it’d be helpful to know what you think is necessary for a novice and what is more of a nice to have/ for when you’re more experienced.
Been looking for a series like this for a while, because so many channels put out great videos of shooting at some of the more exclusive grounds and reviewing £20,000 guns, which as I said are great..... but I'm still learning the difference between 12 gauge and 20 gauge. Big help in getting me started, Cheers 👍🏻
Thank you very much, the way you explained mount to the face then shoulder plus the demonstration, second to none. Have heard that before but never seen it demonstrated so easy & simple.You have just helped a thankful stranger 👍
Thanks man, you are the reason I made the video. I don't think there is enough really basic info out there for people getting into the sport, hence the series. More to follow.
@@lloydyp more to follow is good to know, also best place to start is with the basics the rest will follow.So your advice is well received & very welcome cheers .
Any instructional shooting video that starts with footwork deserves a thumbs up. As someone who shoots a reasonable amount of clays, following these tips will save you a few hundred shells until your shooting improves. Also, I could listen to that sound of the gun closing for hours 😬.
great vid Lloyd, very clearly set out and explained, as you intimated once you have these base lines established then there is more detailed advice available ideally from a good coach. As an aside the sound of your High Tech closing is the sound of quality engineering.
Good information for beginners its surprising how many people will watch someone doing it wrong and not offer any help. I personally am not the best shot but am touching the 40s out of 50 clays self-taught by watching the best shooters at my clubs. I try help others with their shooting as people get fed up with missing clays and often pack the sport in before they should.
I started lessons last year at a local club, nothing spectacular or very expensive, but really enjoyed it. I looked around and bought a second hand Miroku 7000 28" Sporter for £700 based solely on how very comfortable it felt in my shoulder, little did I know that I would later have to have the butt extended as I was seeing far too much of the rib. I have not been able to use the new adaption because of C19, but I still practice my gun mount in the mirror as often as I can. Being ex military, my instructor had a real task on his hands trying to de-train me after many years of rifle shooting, I still have to shoot "gun up" and with my left eye closed :) Thank you so much for taking the time and sharing some great tips for us noobs..........
You can spot the ex military lads a mile off when they start out, just the way they hold the gun. 😉 Glad you enjoyed the show, hope you are a subscriber.
Nicely done! Tips for every beginner indeed. These kind of tips should be given to every beginning shooter when arriving for a first time at a school even if it is a company festivity.
Glad you mentioned stance etc . its frustrating when i see someone having lessons etc and the instructor never shows them how to stand .Its basic stuff but very important at the same time .And that gun looks amazing in the sun ,
Lloyd, this is the best 3-part series for newbies that I've seen. Down-to-earth basics that will benefit anyone trying the sport for the first time. As a newbie myself, I've forwarded the link to a few friends before they come along for a first shoot, the safety aspects being paramount, of course, just to give them an important head start. Much appreciated, along with all your other videos, many thanks.
I was thinking you wouldn't have good cheek contact with your stock with that high collared jacket but it looks good and a great tip I never heard before about face before shoulder on you shot mount.
Hi Lloyd, I’m a newbie, only completed half a dozen lessons to date and I’m learning loads. These videos are great and I’m sharing with my friend, please keep producing.
Great advice Lloyd, it mirrored what the coach at my local club was teaching my boy earlier today, especially the gun mount ( head on stock into the shoulder ) Even an old dog like me is learning new tricks from your vids, keep em coming.
Another informative video,thank you.Getting some coaching from Sandy up at Bywell,excellent coach ,really enjoying the sport with his help and videos like this.Cheers.
Great video Lloyd, there are so many videos on UA-cam describing various aspects of clay shooting, and it can be quite overwhelming. So glad you’ve decided to make this series for new comers; delivered with your friendly and honest manner. Keep up the good work and look forward to the next instalment.
Thank you Lloyd the mounting of the gun is the mot important thing for me, at 75 I have got lazy on my gun mount so I will practice your gun mount in the mirror ,thank you have a nice Christmas and Happy new year and stay safe.
Great video LIoyd for beginners, I've been shooting since I was a nipper started with air rifles then on to a bit of game,now clay shooting,I agree with you I was taught to touch your cheek,use your body like a coiled Spring,hold point etc etc...you take care sir and stay safe..
Fantastic channel, I'm hoping to take this up with my father inlaw in the next few weeks. Watching your vids make it less daunting so thanx. Just gonna subscribe 👍
Another great film Lloyd. The face then shoulder thing is particularly useful. How about a film on how clay grounds work? How to call targets, etiquette etc. Jim
Very informational vids & definitely helping Lloyd! Maybe an idea for an extra vid is to talk about shells for clay shooting? 21gr vs 24gr vs 28gr, shot size, what to use when and why? Greets from Belgium, stay safe!
I'm new to Clay Shooting. Great series so far and definitely reinforcing everything I'm learning from my first few coaching sessions and adding to my knowledge and understanding. Would be great see a video on your thoughts on initial gun selection and the sort of budget you would be looking at from say novice to moving to the next level of experience.
Grate set of videos to help people get into the sport maybe you could do one on how to deal with a missfire as I see a few new shooters that don't know what to do and are stood with potentially a live gun
I left misfires out intentionally as I feel like that should be dealt with by whoever is supervising. Newbies shouldn't be in a position to have to deal with that on their own.
Mate loving the videos. I would be interested in the first gun one you mentioned. My SGC came through just before I went back to sea. I still think fondly of my my times up in the North East my Archery was never as good once I left!
I seem to be watching a lot of your videos now, so subscribed. Looking forward to your first gun video, I'll hopefully be getting mine when my licence comes through! I'll also be going to Bywell a few times too as its relatively close to me!
Thanks for these videos, really helpful. I'm just getting into it and waiting for my SGC to come through, from the same force as you I suspect, so might see you around at some of the local grounds at some point!
Just getting into clay shooting with my 15yr old son who has become hooked over the past couple of months going every week. We have found your beginner videos so helpful and can relate to every thing you said as newbies. I'm anticipating we will be needing to get a licence and look at choosing a gun soon, do you have any tips on selection? Any advice appreciated 👍
@@lloydyp ahh ok mate. Just I'm completely green. Havent ever been clay shooting before. Only done some in Thailand, which I'm sure is completely different to the UK haha I got myself a licence and a gun, mainly to motivate me to actually go out and shoot. So can I just show up and shoot? Even being totally inexperienced? I'm waiting to have some lessons before I go out on my own. How do grounds normally charge? per hour, per clay etc.
@@lloydyp I live Bristol way. So have quite a few grounds all within a reasonable area. Have spoken with someone at Lady Wood, but with all these tiers and lockdowns im not sure I will be able to get any lessons yet. A mate of mine shoots, and would come with me. But he's already said he's not an instructor so would be reluctant to teach me lots of bad habits😆 So I wanted to know if I could just turn up with my mate and shoot without lessons. More just to get out the house, as I'm in a wheelchair makes it just that bit more awkward. I've got all the kit, and I've joined BASC, so have insurance as well. Also been around various guns all my life, so very safety conscious.
@@UKReloader just looked at the ladies wood web and the prices look resonable enough. The price per clay for normal shooting will vary wildly based on the location and is generally more expensive Daahn Saarf. As I said though, once you have a licence you can pretty much rock up and shoot anywhere. Probs woth a call before you set off just to see what the craic is when you get there. They will be dealing with new shooters all the time so dont be embarrased to ask for help.
Loving the vids-as someone looking to get started they are full of great tips and advice. Would be very interested in hearing about first gun selection, and in particular, those on a tight budget. Got me some lessons booked in January, and letter (and their fee) has gone off to my GP...fingers crossed all goes well and i'll be touring gun shops in early 2021 :-)
Hey, getting into clay shooting and came across your channel, great job! I’ve subscribed and looking forward to new videos Looking for your opinion on which hun to start off with, I’ve looked at the Beretta Silver Pigeon I and like it but curious to hear your thoughts?
I liked the face then shoulder for mounting, had my first lesson last week and without going into it cross dominance came in to play, closing my right eye just prior to taking the shot did enable me to hit them more than with both eyes open all the time. Any info on eye/ cross eye dominance would be great.
Ooof, it very much is an issue but I would bow to others to comment on it. I've coached archery to international level with shooters with eye dominance issues but that's a static target and quite easy to overcome with equipment. Clay shooting is more dynamic and more difficult to sort.
Good partner, could you make a tested video and talking about the franchi feeling Sporting and fabarm elos N2 Sporting weapons, it would be very interesting, a greeting from Spain, hopefully you can do it I will be attentive to see them.
Audio a bit quiet Lloyd. Content brilliant and I'm hoping my son in law subscribes. Its easier to replay or watch again than to try and explain on a windswept, wet or cold shoot.
Quality of the camera is really good, is that a new camera? Great information for new shooters, will help them enjoy their first experience so much more. 👍 How about the difference in gun styles for, sporting, skeet, trap, abt and mount, sight pictures for each? Keep up the excellent vids! Have a great Christmas and New Year, stay safe and sane!
The weather did look ideal and showed up that lovely wood nicely :). Are you allowed to shoot while you make the videos? It would’ve been good for a beginner to see you break a couple of clays using the technique demonstrated. Keep up the good work Mr P!
Hi Lloyd, can you do a video of your opinion on back bored shotguns say 18.7 bore compared to a nominal bored one at 18.4 on long range targets/game with fibre wads? I am just curious really and no one really gives a comparison or a view. Many thanks
Honestly I haven't done any empirical testing but I don't think it makes enough difference that a club shooter needs to worry about it. I have seen monster clays broken with crap cartridges and skeet chokes *if* you put the gun in the right place.
Ah now we are into 2 different problems. Steel shot requires a shot cup, so until someone comes up with an affordable bioplastic you can either shoot fibre OR steel. Steel will shoot just fine in 18.7 bores. Fibre loads lose a little pressure for sure but the new gamebore quadraseal fixes that. Basically the market will come up with a way to make this work for everyone given time so don't worry about it 😉
hi Lloyd. I'm not new to clay shooting, but I have never had any professional tuition, and I find myself at sporting shoots doing really well at 1 stand and then totally destroying my score at the next. can you recommend any good tuition in Ireland or do you think I should go to the UK for a couple of days instruction, when we're over covid, and if so, where would you recommend. thanks. Brian Dillon
I live in Kilkenny. it's southeast of the country. I've been looking up tuition here through Google, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot available. like I said, If I thought I could head to the UK for a couple of days at a time and get better results, that would possibly be the route to go. thanks for your time Lloyd.
on some targets I really don't have a clue where I'm missing. I don't know if it's a speed of swing, high or low and high quality one on one tuition is not readily available where I'm living. In short, I'd like to be able to see where I'm missing. I'm a pretty decent shot on quite a few targets, on others, I'm a little bit lost. thanks
Lloyd, could you tell me roughly how much extra it would be to go from an SC1 wood to the SC3 wood you have on yours? I know you were upgraded at Perazzis expense but I'm curious if you know the price difference between the two?
Ive been shooting pretty much all forms of fireams, shotguns, and primitive weapons for 32 years, and in my past I have been a coach (although not in Shotguns), an armorer, and a fireams instructor.
Digging this series! How ever, I don't agree with your advice on tracking the clay from the half way point of travel. A new shooter will have trouble with target acquisition in that short period of time. All instructors I know, teach to follow the clay from the machine. I may add.. If you're sticking with your 18 second intro, you might as well stretch the vid to 10 min. to get that youtube dough! Looking forward to your next vid
I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree there. You can track the clay with your eyes from where you can effectively see it. If you mount to the trap you have lost before you start.
@@lloydyp When you're an experienced shooter you don't aim the gun, you simply look at the target.. New shooters don't have the muscle memory or the experience of thousands of shots with their weapon
Whilst the visual hold point should be just out of the trap the gun hold point for beginners depends on the type of method being taught. ( swing through , pull away or maintained lead ) Everybody is different but a good generic hold point for beginners is half way between visual hold point and break point. I think Lloyd gave very good advice on this point.
@@simonbennett223 His point was, that there is to much to do. But until you have a substantial amount of training under your belt, you won't have consistant mounting and your shots will be all over the place if you shoot where you look instead of where you aim. So having more time to follow the clay while aiming, will break more clays. As you say, there are many different tecniques. And one doesn't work for all
Outdoor activities are permitted in Tier4 for people within Tier4 areas. e.g Ej Churchill in High Wycombe remain open. I would do some Googling to see if there is local ground still operating near you. Hopefully, you'll find one.
Thanks Lloyd , in process of applying for licence and found this informative. I’ve learnt a lot from your content as well as the lanky southerner (Johnny I think his name is ) and the strange looking geezer from Oxford gun club. Can you suggest a good shooting ground in or near Cumbria? I want to do as you suggest and look for a fitted good first gun and instruction
Sorry George, I’m not familiar with any clubs in Cumbria off the top of my head. Best bet is probably to post on a forum or Facebook shooting group, however the quality of response you will get is unfortunately questionable.
As an absolute newbie, who is very interested in the sport, I found this series of videos very useful. Thank you very much Lloyd 👍🏼
The face-to-shoulder tip is excellent. Thank you!
My pleasure.
the wood on that gun just stunning.....fair play Lloyd good stuff!
Thanks Joe.
The sound when he closes is amazing! That's solid.
Ten tips:
1) Practice gun mount at home using a laser in the barrel of the shotgun
2) Practice footwork and swing at home
3) If possible shoot with both eyes open
4) Soft focus at distant...the eyes focus on the target quicker that way
5) Repeat at each station until success.
6) Shoot singles with success. For example, in skeet start by shooting singles at all incoming targets.
7) Practice consistent look point, hold point, kill area
8) Focus small...try to focus on a dime sized area of the leading edge of the clay
9) Keep head on stock and follow thru.
10) Practice follow thru by swinging to broken piece of clay.
Tip 3 is a simple one but your explanation of how to overcome that posture was great! I will have to remember that next time I'm dealing with a new shooter.
You're welcome 🙂 thanks for watching.
I’m really new to shooting but I’ve definitely caught the bug so am going to have some lessons in the new year. These videos are great for explaining simply some of the basics that I haven’t understood when going on experience days so thank you! I’d love to know more about initial gun selection, there’s a lot of options out there and you can end up spending a lot of money so it’d be helpful to know what you think is necessary for a novice and what is more of a nice to have/ for when you’re more experienced.
Thanks Abi, I am covering that in an upcoming episode ;)
Been looking for a series like this for a while, because so many channels put out great videos of shooting at some of the more exclusive grounds and reviewing £20,000 guns, which as I said are great..... but I'm still learning the difference between 12 gauge and 20 gauge. Big help in getting me started, Cheers 👍🏻
More episodes coming soon.
Great mini series .. reinforced everything I’ve been picking up in my first few months of shooting
Thank you very much, the way you explained mount to the face then shoulder plus the demonstration, second to none. Have heard that before but never seen it demonstrated so easy & simple.You have just helped a thankful stranger 👍
Thanks man, you are the reason I made the video. I don't think there is enough really basic info out there for people getting into the sport, hence the series. More to follow.
@@lloydyp more to follow is good to know, also best place to start is with the basics the rest will follow.So your advice is well received & very welcome cheers .
Thanks Lloyd for the pointers and the reasoning behind them. Great advice and vid. Look forward to the next.
Thanks Wilson.
Great advice, Lloyd! Please keep 'em coming!!
Thanks man.
Any instructional shooting video that starts with footwork deserves a thumbs up. As someone who shoots a reasonable amount of clays, following these tips will save you a few hundred shells until your shooting improves.
Also, I could listen to that sound of the gun closing for hours 😬.
Thanks Smu, glad you enjoyed it. I quite like that sound myself :)
great vid Lloyd, very clearly set out and explained, as you intimated once you have these base lines established then there is more detailed advice available ideally from a good coach. As an aside the sound of your High Tech closing is the sound of quality engineering.
Thanks Ollie 😉
Great videos Lloyd. I have just started DTL after years as a Pro rifle shooter. Your videos are really helpful. Thank you!
Glad you find them useful man.
Good information for beginners its surprising how many people will watch someone doing it wrong and not offer any help. I personally am not the best shot but am touching the 40s out of 50 clays self-taught by watching the best shooters at my clubs. I try help others with their shooting as people get fed up with missing clays and often pack the sport in before they should.
Thanks Ewan
I started lessons last year at a local club, nothing spectacular or very expensive, but really enjoyed it. I looked around and bought a second hand Miroku 7000 28" Sporter for £700 based solely on how very comfortable it felt in my shoulder, little did I know that I would later have to have the butt extended as I was seeing far too much of the rib. I have not been able to use the new adaption because of C19, but I still practice my gun mount in the mirror as often as I can. Being ex military, my instructor had a real task on his hands trying to de-train me after many years of rifle shooting, I still have to shoot "gun up" and with my left eye closed :) Thank you so much for taking the time and sharing some great tips for us noobs..........
You can spot the ex military lads a mile off when they start out, just the way they hold the gun. 😉 Glad you enjoyed the show, hope you are a subscriber.
Nicely done! Tips for every beginner indeed. These kind of tips should be given to every beginning shooter when arriving for a first time at a school even if it is a company festivity.
Thanks Pieter.
Glad you mentioned stance etc . its frustrating when i see someone having lessons etc and the instructor never shows them how to stand .Its basic stuff but very important at the same time .And that gun looks amazing in the sun ,
Cheers man :)
Great video thanks. Would love to see something on eye dominance.
Noted.
Your tip at 6:05 was so good (the others as e=well but this one especially hit home for me). THANK YOU!
You're so welcome, glad it was helpful.
Good basic pointers. Please continue to do these. Reminds me what I should be doing, cutting out bad habits creeping in.
Will do, thanks Chris.
Great vid, great tip on putting your face on the stock then shoulder, perfect. Yeah this keeps your head straight
Thanks Rudy :)
Loving these vids.... Perfect way to introduce people to the sport...! As you said in the video a buying your first gun video would be great....!
On the way Bob.
Lloyd, this is the best 3-part series for newbies that I've seen. Down-to-earth basics that will benefit anyone trying the sport for the first time. As a newbie myself, I've forwarded the link to a few friends before they come along for a first shoot, the safety aspects being paramount, of course, just to give them an important head start. Much appreciated, along with all your other videos, many thanks.
Thank you sir.
Cracking blog I am that newbie so that really helps.
Cheers Darren, glad you like the show.
I was thinking you wouldn't have good cheek contact with your stock with that high collared jacket but it looks good and a great tip I never heard before about face before shoulder on you shot mount.
😉
Excellent demostration on shooting form!
Thanks Mike
thank you for pointers for us newbies, this starts us of on the right path so carry on if you can these are brilliant.
Cheers Gary
This is massively useful. And I'll definitely put this into practice when I next go on the clays. Cheers Lloyd
No worries man. Glad you enjoyed it.
Perhaps part 4 could be about eye dominance. You absolutely need to know which eye is dominant so you know which shoulder to put the gun in.
As I have said in the series eye dominance is a deep subject that I can't hope to cover usefully in a video, You need 121 time with a decent coach.
Hi Lloyd, I’m a newbie, only completed half a dozen lessons to date and I’m learning loads. These videos are great and I’m sharing with my friend, please keep producing.
Thanks Garry.
Great advice Lloyd, it mirrored what the coach at my local club was teaching my boy earlier today, especially the gun mount ( head on stock into the shoulder )
Even an old dog like me is learning new tricks from your vids, keep em coming.
Thanks Sharky
Great video, very helpful Lloyd, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Another good one. Excellent pointers on footwork and shooting stance.
Thanks Craig.
Another informative video,thank you.Getting some coaching from Sandy up at Bywell,excellent coach ,really enjoying the sport with his help and videos like this.Cheers.
Thanks Mark, glad you are enjoying the show.
Great video Lloyd, there are so many videos on UA-cam describing various aspects of clay shooting, and it can be quite overwhelming. So glad you’ve decided to make this series for new comers; delivered with your friendly and honest manner. Keep up the good work and look forward to the next instalment.
Thanks man :)
Thank you Lloyd the mounting of the gun is the mot important thing for me, at 75 I have got lazy on my gun mount so I will practice your gun mount in the mirror ,thank you have a nice Christmas and Happy new year
and stay safe.
Merry Christmas Keith. Stay safe man.
Great video LIoyd for beginners, I've been shooting since I was a nipper started with air rifles then on to a bit of game,now clay shooting,I agree with you I was taught to touch your cheek,use your body like a coiled Spring,hold point etc etc...you take care sir and stay safe..
Thanks John. Have a merry Christmas and stay safe.
Fantastic channel, I'm hoping to take this up with my father inlaw in the next few weeks. Watching your vids make it less daunting so thanx. Just gonna subscribe 👍
Good man. Glad you found these useful.
Good information! Being a newbie, I appreciate this!
Hope you watched all 3.
@@lloydyp I did! 2nd shoot [ever] coming Sunday for me and my boys!
Thank you
Another great film Lloyd. The face then shoulder thing is particularly useful. How about a film on how clay grounds work? How to call targets, etiquette etc. Jim
You are not the first person to suggest this man, I'll have a think about how to do this maybe filming at a few different grounds.
As newbie I loved the 3 part video's
Thank you, More to follow :)
Great series Lloyd, really like your no nonsense approach. Very helpful 👍
Glad to hear it, thanks man.
Thanks Lloyd, I'm off to Park Lodge for a lesson tomorrow, license application is ready to go👍
Good lad.
Bear in mind though, there are huge backlogs for grants. I've been told up to a year for new applications.
Very informational vids & definitely helping Lloyd!
Maybe an idea for an extra vid is to talk about shells for clay shooting? 21gr vs 24gr vs 28gr, shot size, what to use when and why?
Greets from Belgium, stay safe!
That's already planned mate. Thanks for watching 😊
I'm new to Clay Shooting. Great series so far and definitely reinforcing everything I'm learning from my first few coaching sessions and adding to my knowledge and understanding. Would be great see a video on your thoughts on initial gun selection and the sort of budget you would be looking at from say novice to moving to the next level of experience.
That will be episode 4
Really helpful 3 videos, that first gun selection video you mentioned would be great, thanks
Definitely on the cards when I have the time.
Great video. Thanks Lloyd.
Thanks for watching Nick.
Great content Lloyd. Looking forward to more videos in the series!
Thanks man.
Good clear information, thank you
Glad it was helpful.
Grate set of videos to help people get into the sport maybe you could do one on how to deal with a missfire as I see a few new shooters that don't know what to do and are stood with potentially a live gun
I left misfires out intentionally as I feel like that should be dealt with by whoever is supervising. Newbies shouldn't be in a position to have to deal with that on their own.
Mate loving the videos. I would be interested in the first gun one you mentioned. My SGC came through just before I went back to sea. I still think fondly of my my times up in the North East my Archery was never as good once I left!
Stay tuned mate ;)
Good video Lloyd. Never heard the face then shoulder point before so that’s interesting. Hope you and the family are ok in lockdown.
Thanks man, merry Christmas.
Brilliant! Just what I have been waiting for from you. Very well presented.
Thank you Hannah.
Would like to see a video on basic aiming with bead sights and leading the target.
That would be a very short video as you do not aim a shotgun. However I know what you mean.
I seem to be watching a lot of your videos now, so subscribed. Looking forward to your first gun video, I'll hopefully be getting mine when my licence comes through! I'll also be going to Bywell a few times too as its relatively close to me!
Thanks for subbing, I'm sure I'll see at bywell at some point.
I’m just getting into trap and DTL so would really like a video explaining the various differences between high rib standard rib etc
Thanks Roger, I'll try and do that in a future episode.
Nice one Lloyd. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it, cheers man.
thank you so much
You are very welcome.
Cracking vid as always fella! Perhaps you can do one soon on how to go about convincing the missus that a Perazzi is a must have....
I'm not sure even I can convince your missus of that :D
All help & advice is much appreciated keep it up m8ty
Thanks David.
Thanks for these videos, really helpful. I'm just getting into it and waiting for my SGC to come through, from the same force as you I suspect, so might see you around at some of the local grounds at some point!
There is more to come on this subject, just need to get out of lockdown so I can actually make it.
Another good one Lloyd keep em coming
Thanks, will do.
Really good, thanks 👍
Thank you too!
Happy Christmas Lloyd.
Happy Christmas to you too man.
great videos, thanks
You are very welcome.
Just getting into clay shooting with my 15yr old son who has become hooked over the past couple of months going every week. We have found your beginner videos so helpful and can relate to every thing you said as newbies. I'm anticipating we will be needing to get a licence and look at choosing a gun soon, do you have any tips on selection? Any advice appreciated 👍
I need to make parts 4 and 5 to cover just that.
We will be waiting, cheers for the quick reply 👍
@@aaronjones7476 my pleasure.
Could you do a video of arriving for the first time at a shooting ground. Procedures, how it all works etc.
I could but every ground is different so it would only be relevant for the grounds I use.
@@lloydyp ahh ok mate. Just I'm completely green. Havent ever been clay shooting before. Only done some in Thailand, which I'm sure is completely different to the UK haha
I got myself a licence and a gun, mainly to motivate me to actually go out and shoot. So can I just show up and shoot? Even being totally inexperienced?
I'm waiting to have some lessons before I go out on my own.
How do grounds normally charge? per hour, per clay etc.
@@UKReloader where do you live and what's your local ground?
@@lloydyp I live Bristol way. So have quite a few grounds all within a reasonable area.
Have spoken with someone at Lady Wood, but with all these tiers and lockdowns im not sure I will be able to get any lessons yet.
A mate of mine shoots, and would come with me. But he's already said he's not an instructor so would be reluctant to teach me lots of bad habits😆
So I wanted to know if I could just turn up with my mate and shoot without lessons. More just to get out the house, as I'm in a wheelchair makes it just that bit more awkward.
I've got all the kit, and I've joined BASC, so have insurance as well. Also been around various guns all my life, so very safety conscious.
@@UKReloader just looked at the ladies wood web and the prices look resonable enough. The price per clay for normal shooting will vary wildly based on the location and is generally more expensive Daahn Saarf. As I said though, once you have a licence you can pretty much rock up and shoot anywhere. Probs woth a call before you set off just to see what the craic is when you get there. They will be dealing with new shooters all the time so dont be embarrased to ask for help.
Very instructive indeed, by the way nice gun!
Thanks man 😊
Great video as always!
Thanks man.
Loving the vids-as someone looking to get started they are full of great tips and advice. Would be very interested in hearing about first gun selection, and in particular, those on a tight budget. Got me some lessons booked in January, and letter (and their fee) has gone off to my GP...fingers crossed all goes well and i'll be touring gun shops in early 2021 :-)
Subscribe and stay tuned for future episodes 😉
The first shot should convince people to change or confirm their stance. Slow learners may need two shots.
Hey, getting into clay shooting and came across your channel, great job! I’ve subscribed and looking forward to new videos
Looking for your opinion on which hun to start off with, I’ve looked at the Beretta Silver Pigeon I and like it but curious to hear your thoughts?
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I liked the face then shoulder for mounting, had my first lesson last week and without going into it cross dominance came in to play, closing my right eye just prior to taking the shot did enable me to hit them more than with both eyes open all the time. Any info on eye/ cross eye dominance would be great.
I might see if I could do something with Ed.
keep them coming loving content thx
Thanks, will do
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Good info. Would love to get your take on cross eye dominance and how much of a issue it is or isn't.
Ooof, it very much is an issue but I would bow to others to comment on it. I've coached archery to international level with shooters with eye dominance issues but that's a static target and quite easy to overcome with equipment. Clay shooting is more dynamic and more difficult to sort.
Good partner, could you make a tested video and talking about the franchi feeling Sporting and fabarm elos N2 Sporting weapons, it would be very interesting, a greeting from Spain, hopefully you can do it I will be attentive to see them.
I will get hold of a Franchi Affinity or an Elos if I can👍🏻
I have the franchi feeling Sporting
Audio a bit quiet Lloyd. Content brilliant and I'm hoping my son in law subscribes. Its easier to replay or watch again than to try and explain on a windswept, wet or cold shoot.
Thanks Andy.
❤️ your channel.
Thanks Mike.
Been meaning to ask do you do merch as I like the cap?
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Quality of the camera is really good, is that a new camera? Great information for new shooters, will help them enjoy their first experience so much more. 👍
How about the difference in gun styles for, sporting, skeet, trap, abt and mount, sight pictures for each? Keep up the excellent vids! Have a great Christmas and New Year, stay safe and sane!
No been shooting on a Nikon Z6 for over a year now, the light on this day was particularly beautiful though.
The weather did look ideal and showed up that lovely wood nicely :). Are you allowed to shoot while you make the videos? It would’ve been good for a beginner to see you break a couple of clays using the technique demonstrated. Keep up the good work Mr P!
I filmed this during the last lockdown so the ground was closed and there was no one there to throw me any targets. 🤷♂️
Tip on clothing selection; dont wear a jacket with a large collar that between the stock and the cheek or face.
NB, it's called a cheek weld for a reason, not a jaw weld, you don't have to freeze if you dress sensibly.
Hi Lloyd
Great Video... What model is your Perazzi??
HTS
Would you recommend getting a Sporting gun with fixed chokes or interchangeable? Any advantages on the fixed ones?
This is a complicated subject for beginners but generally start out with a MC and shoot 1/4 and 1/2 or 1/4 & 1/4 you can commit to FC later.
Hi Lloyd, can you do a video of your opinion on back bored shotguns say 18.7 bore compared to a nominal bored one at 18.4 on long range targets/game with fibre wads? I am just curious really and no one really gives a comparison or a view. Many thanks
Honestly I haven't done any empirical testing but I don't think it makes enough difference that a club shooter needs to worry about it. I have seen monster clays broken with crap cartridges and skeet chokes *if* you put the gun in the right place.
@@lloydyp thanks for your reply Lloyd. I was just curious with the whole steel shot transition and tight bores or back bored
Ah now we are into 2 different problems. Steel shot requires a shot cup, so until someone comes up with an affordable bioplastic you can either shoot fibre OR steel. Steel will shoot just fine in 18.7 bores. Fibre loads lose a little pressure for sure but the new gamebore quadraseal fixes that. Basically the market will come up with a way to make this work for everyone given time so don't worry about it 😉
@@lloydyp thanks very much 👍👍👍
No problem man.
hi Lloyd. I'm not new to clay shooting, but I have never had any professional tuition, and I find myself at sporting shoots doing really well at 1 stand and then totally destroying my score at the next. can you recommend any good tuition in Ireland or do you think I should go to the UK for a couple of days instruction, when we're over covid, and if so, where would you recommend. thanks. Brian Dillon
Hey Brian, I don't know any coaches in Ireland but I will ask around for you. Where abouts do you live?
I live in Kilkenny. it's southeast of the country. I've been looking up tuition here through Google, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot available. like I said, If I thought I could head to the UK for a couple of days at a time and get better results, that would possibly be the route to go. thanks for your time Lloyd.
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Hi lloyd. have you any experience with shotkam. if so, would you recommend one?
Why do you want one?
on some targets I really don't have a clue where I'm missing. I don't know if it's a speed of swing, high or low and high quality one on one tuition is not readily available where I'm living. In short, I'd like to be able to see where I'm missing. I'm a pretty decent shot on quite a few targets, on others, I'm a little bit lost. thanks
Lloyd, could you tell me roughly how much extra it would be to go from an SC1 wood to the SC3 wood you have on yours? I know you were upgraded at Perazzis expense but I'm curious if you know the price difference between the two?
About 2 grand at the time. Brexit will have had an effect however.
@@lloydyp what wood grade do you think their entry level wood is considered? Is there an SC2 etc.?
@@BeatRock253 their standard wood is just standard, and yes there is an SC2. SC2 upgrade is about 400 quid, or it was in 2019.
@@lloydyp wow, that is much more affordable lol. I wonder if the SC2 is around a Grade 3??
Lloyd how did you achieve you expertise?
Ive been shooting pretty much all forms of fireams, shotguns, and primitive weapons for 32 years, and in my past I have been a coach (although not in Shotguns), an armorer, and a fireams instructor.
@@lloydyp well done Lloyd. Nobody packs as much info in as short of time as you. Thank you.
@@avocado9763 thank you.
Nice gun .... what is it ?
Perazzi High Tech S. The video of the gun being made is in my channel here: ua-cam.com/video/4MJLRgAFwfs/v-deo.html
Biggest mistake people make... Seeing the gap in front of the clay and stopping the swing... Equals missed target.
that's why I recommend seeing a coach ;)
@@lloydyp yes Sir! Keep up the great work! 👍💯🎇🥇
Digging this series!
How ever, I don't agree with your advice on tracking the clay from the half way point of travel. A new shooter will have trouble with target acquisition in that short period of time. All instructors I know, teach to follow the clay from the machine.
I may add.. If you're sticking with your 18 second intro, you might as well stretch the vid to 10 min. to get that youtube dough!
Looking forward to your next vid
I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree there. You can track the clay with your eyes from where you can effectively see it. If you mount to the trap you have lost before you start.
@@lloydyp When you're an experienced shooter you don't aim the gun, you simply look at the target.. New shooters don't have the muscle memory or the experience of thousands of shots with their weapon
Whilst the visual hold point should be just out of the trap the gun hold point for beginners depends on the type of method being taught. ( swing through , pull away or maintained lead ) Everybody is different but a good generic hold point for beginners is half way between visual hold point and break point. I think Lloyd gave very good advice on this point.
@@simonbennett223 His point was, that there is to much to do.
But until you have a substantial amount of training under your belt, you won't have consistant mounting and your shots will be all over the place if you shoot where you look instead of where you aim. So having more time to follow the clay while aiming, will break more clays. As you say, there are many different tecniques. And one doesn't work for all
@@lloydyp agreed. You start at the pickup point where your eyes first start to track the clay, then you pull through to the kill point.
Shame I’ve hit tier 4 wheee I am. Everywhere is shut from today 👎🏻
We have been locked down since March. 🙈
Outdoor activities are permitted in Tier4 for people within Tier4 areas. e.g Ej Churchill in High Wycombe remain open. I would do some Googling to see if there is local ground still operating near you. Hopefully, you'll find one.
Thanks Lloyd , in process of applying for licence and found this informative. I’ve learnt a lot from your content as well as the lanky southerner (Johnny I think his name is ) and the strange looking geezer from Oxford gun club. Can you suggest a good shooting ground in or near Cumbria? I want to do as you suggest and look for a fitted good first gun and instruction
Sorry George, I’m not familiar with any clubs in Cumbria off the top of my head. Best bet is probably to post on a forum or Facebook shooting group, however the quality of response you will get is unfortunately questionable.