Peter Criss Talks About Why He Hates and Didn't Play on Dynasty
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2024
- In this video we take a look at an interview that Peter Criss gave talking about Dynasty. He talks about why he didn't play on the album. This comes to us from an old Eddie Trunk interview back after Peter was kicked out of KISS after the Alive IV Symphony album.
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Man, 1977 I was 7 in Queens NY running to the candy store to buy KISS trading cards.
Do you still have yours, I still have mine
Saw Kiss on the RnR Over Tour, Love Gun, Dynasty & the 1996 reunion tour. I understand band members change, but the mystique is the original 4. Countless Friday nights watching Don Kirschners Rock Concert, Paul Lynde Halloween show, Phantom of the Park...endelss true memories of the original 4.
Why doesn't anybody ever mention Baby Driver?? Best Peter Criss song and definitely one of Kiss Best Deep Cuts!!
I agree, great song/vocals
Dirty Living and Mainline too.
I like Dirty living and strange ways.
I agree and love Baby Driver and Houlagan and Dirty Livin!!! I am a die hard Peter Criss fan and anything he sang was legendary!!! Black Diamond, Hard Luck woman, Beth, Strange Ways!!!
I listen to kiss to hear Ace and see Ace. As long as he's playing and singing..everything is ok. Roket Ride, 2000 Man, Shock me, New York Groove.. I could go on all day.
Same!
Peter sold the rights to his image that’s why he doesn’t receive any money for it anymore and he should have answered the question truthfully
He has in the past I’m sure, not sure why he’s not saying so now ?
Peter did play on Dirty Livin’ and the tour
Not all of that tour, maybe four or five. But not on all of that tour. Sorry, it was no other than Anton Fig and even on all of the Unmasked tour, until they announced their new drummer Eric Carr, to finish that tour out.
Wrong kid he did finish the dynasty tour Eric Carr was not hired until June 1980@@thelovegun66
The first 3 Kiss albums still stand the test of time, with Hotter than Hell being my favorite, all killer, no filler
Dressed to Kill also killer. The first three are classics.
I don't think the first 2 had a bad track on them. Dressed to kill didn't really resonate with me but I can appreciate what your saying.
Look, I'm a fan of Ace and Peter, but don't act like they didn't screw up. Also, they're just as concerned about the money as Gene and Paul are.
People have demons in life and both of these gentlemen fought them and won . They're both living great lives. Money isn't happiness. The original line up can never be compared to any line up in the band. Ace is still making music. People who have struggled with addiction and pulled through know this and understand.
It's always such a joy to hear a conversation with Peter Criss, not so much Paul or Gene.
Dirty livin is a great track
Yeah but if you listen to the demo, it actually sucked
@@88kwthomas have to agree .. the demo is "dirtier" and vocally grittier
i always thought dynasty sounded too thin.... sonically.... and the elder sounded too muddy 😒
We love it and I'm a drummer.its bad enough. Your drumming and singing.😂
it's absolutely killer. great showcase for Pete's voice.
Peter didnt play on Dynasty because the producer thought he couldnt cut it. The rest is damage control. Peter seems like a nice dude, especially to fans. But he's protecting his ego here.
It was my very first KISS Album i was 12 & cherish it from then till now 57.
This was my first album also and I still love it ..Kiss made me become a drummer.
My first too. I saw the 8-track at Music+ and my parents let me get it. I still have it.
It was my very first album too. I was 9. Immediatly fan.
I got Dynasty for x-Mas '79 when I was 12. I cherish it from then 'till now at 57 too! Far out man.
It was my last kiss album. They lost me on that one and i never returned '96 reunion tour
I love Peter Criss, but he always makes excuses and just squandered his talent and opportunity in mid-1978 -well before the Dynasty album. He was a pivotal part of the band, but never takes responsibility for the real reason why he’s not currently in the band. Gene and Paul are strong-willed leaders (which every successful band needs), but they’d have never kicked him out had he stayed off drugs and stayed the course. Hell, even Ace hung around for 3-4 years after Peter’s departure..as bad off as Ace was, he still recognized his value in the staying power of the band. Until he didn’t, but that’s another story. That said, I think they should’ve shelved the makeup once the original 4 were no longer on stage (after the 96 reunion tour era).
Yeah... the reason why Peter didn't keep on playing after "Psycho Circus" was, among other things, he was unable to play the drums live. Even then he got mad about that!
Gene and Paul are pragmatic to a fault but without them, there would be no band... and I think their friction is strictly business because every album Ace releases there's a guest appearance by Gene, at least...
Blah blah blah!!!! Bashing a living legend drummer, are you people frickin crazy 🤪!!!! Peter is a legend and how do any of you judge him or always go by stories from Paul and Gene?? Pathetic
LOVE Peter's voice on "nothin to lose"!
I also liked Black Diamond and, especially, Getaway.
@@markdepeppo7520don't forget hard luck woman
Strange ways
@@craigsteinman9807 we
baby driver
I love peter, biggest drumming idol
That second call brought a tear to my eye , KISS ARMY!!
Seeing the hall of fame was my tear jersey. I knew that was gonna be probably the last time the 4 of them appeared on a stage together.
How about a new FREHLEY and CRISS tour with two impostors as Stanley and Simmons?
That would be hilarious
@@TommyFlett It will open a huge can of worms that will keep Simmons and Stanley busy for life Lol
Peter was a mighty drummer in the 70s and he is a amazing, real and sweet person
The band went Vegas and lost its double edge sword?!? Has Peter listened to his solo stuff !?! No balls what so ever
Lol
I like Peter and Ace and don't care for Paul and Gene.
Peter Criss is a drumming legend period ! His drumming on the first 7 Kiss records speaks for itself. Was he a Peart or Bonham ? No he wasn't but his style gave Kiss a very unique sound and helped make Kiss a household name in the 1970's. Ask practically any popular hard rock drummer who was one of their first influences and Peter's name will be among them. There's only one Catman and everyone knows it's Peter Criss ! 🤘🥁🔥🤘
Black and Silver KISS 74-78 was the bomb! Peter's drums sounded so cool on ALIVE! and Rock and Roll Over. Go Baby Driver!
They were never black and silver.
That is how they described themselves. You must know more!@@b.g.5869
you betcha bud
Yeah man, seemingly this is the only KISS, that matters.
listen to his drum solo on 100,000 years on ALIVE ! 👍
The 1970s really was and allways will be my favorite years they had that go get um attitude ❤
Kinda strange that the first 3 callers were Gene, Paul, Peter...
Peter didn't play because he was not upto par due to his drug use. I love all the members of KISS, but fame got to both Peter and Ace. Ace was always my favorite. I wish he had passed on some of the drinking and drugs.
Well said
The car accident affected his playing. Robert Plants singing changed after his car accident. Look at Phil Collins in his later years, he can’t even play because he had years of injuries. Drummers have the most physical job and are prone to back injuries, slipped discs, arthritis, knee and hip problems. A guitar player can be wheelchair bound and still play. Elton could get away with rolling around in a wheelchair and play piano for 2 hours. Drummers can’t get away with that.
@@muziktrkragreed, people don’t talk about it often enough but Peter’s car accident really effected his playing, probably even years later.
Well said ….they’re like football players in a sense ..all that pounding takes a toll
Yeah that last answer was a really long and roundabout way of saying "I signed something I now regret signing/ shouldn't have signed". Simple as that.
Exactly I felt that one too. Similar to the lottery winners they took a 1-time payout and forfeited their future %. Who knew KISS would go as long as they did. They were all on the verge of splitting up back then and going their separate ways. Their stock was low but Peter & Ace sold theirs figuring it wouldn't go back up.
It's All about money and ego which is so true....very unfortunately which happens everywhere.Peter Chriss and Ace Frealey were and always will be the true original Kiss no matter what happened and no one can replace what is the real originality of someone or something Fact
The OG Kiss is all that matters.
I always wished Peter and Ace would have teamed up.
When was this made ..Peter sounds healthy and sane
He played on the video. I loved dynasty 🎸
When this stuff is brought up, it's never mentioned that there's songs where Gene didn't play bass. And there's songs where Paul doesn't play even rhythm guitar. Most of the time on Ace's songs, it's him playing all the guitars and bass. On a song like Hard Times, for instance, Gene and Paul aren't on that song at all. I know on Save Your Love, you can hear Paul signing backup vocals, but that's all he did on the track. And some of Paul's songs, like Love Gun itself and Sure Know Something, it's Paul playing bass.
Oh, and as far as Peter not playing on most of Dynasty and all of Unmasked, the story I remember hearing was, that was Vini Poncia's call. I think by the time of Unmasked, Peter had already been fired, but on Dynasty, Peter was still recovering from a car accident, and Vini felt Peter wasn't ready for prime time, as it were. Ironically, Peter was the whole reason Poncia was working with the band, because Vini had produced Peter's solo album, and Gene and Paul chose Vini to produce Dynasty to please Peter (though I still say the fact that Vini had previously worked with Ringo Starr played into as well, giving Gene and Paul to get one step closer that upper upper level of greatness..."Hey, our new producer worked with one of the Beatles!").
Ok
Live Paul is a terrible guitarist. Makes you wonder.
@@captainkirk70In what way is he terrible? Never seen him miss a chord
Thanks for cut an pasting common knowledge and passing it off as your own. Pretty sure this is stated in Paul's book
@@88kwthomas I've seen him miss plenty. He's only gotten worse with experience. But even when he was younger his solo on Animalize Live is one for the record books.
I loved and still listen to regularly the first album, Hotter than Hell and Dressed to Kill which have all 4 original members playing on and it’s been 50 years and Cold Gin is still my favorite song by Kiss
Cold Gin, written by Frehley, was the first song I learned to play and sing on guitar!
I agree, I absolutely love the first 3 albums as well!!! My ultimate favorite song 🎵 is Black Diamond and always will be!!! Lol
@@kevinchandler179came to say, Black Diamond is their best. Saw the original members play Vegas in 99 and they closed with BD and it was AMAZING.
The callers are Paul, Gene & Peter?????
I know right 🤣
Love ❤ Kiss w/ Peter Chriss
I love Peter Criss and Ace Frehley. I agree with Peter about the Dynasty album. I went to that show and War Machine Tour with Vinnie Vincent and Eric Carr. I was disappointed that Peter and Ace weren't there the second time. I agree with the one caller who said he loved your voice. I really do too. Nothin' To Lose, Black Diamond ...man your vocals are so epic. Love you man. Never forget that the fans love you. You are the only Catman I will accept.
war machine tour? you mean creatures of the night?
Don't forget Hard Luck Woman!!! Peter shined like a mother fucker on that, Black Diamond, Beth, Strange Ways, Nothing to lose and more!!! He had by far the best voice in the band!!!
Dynasty and Unmasked did not sound like Black and Silver KISS. ALIVE II and Rock and Roll Over were the last.
Lets not forget Baby Driver@kevinchandler179
I'm a kiss fan way back. Saw the end of classic kiss 79 .makeup. reunion the end of the road. I'm staying out of the band politics. I went because I love live kiss. Thanks
WoW; One caller mentioned Jerry Nolan Peters best friend!
In his book Peter seems to insinuate that their friendship ended when Nolan got into heroin ….I read a book on Jerry a few years ago, it was very sad. Him and Thunders, the ultimate rock and roll casualties….
Peter and Ace were the only true rockers ever . The other two. Corrupted by sin and money. Money is the root of ALL evil. Playing the drums is different. And they didn't get it. If you're not physically there you can't play right. Guitar players can still pull it off.. saw Jake e Lee sit in a chair for a Ozzy show after he broke his back.
DYNASTY is AWESOME! So was the 'Dynasty Tour' (I think it was in '79)!
It was crap…
2- bit abortion says what?@@Billy-Box
Was a fan since the Paul Lynde halloween special and couldn't wait to see them in Milwaukee in 79. Only, the show stunk. A lot of smoke, and Paul Stanley saying how "he;'s got this feeling" about 20 times and a very I just want to get the show over feel to it. I, as a senior in HS, was very disappointed.
Was this recorded this month or is it older? if so, when was it recorded? Blessings . . . . .
Many many years ago
There are a sobriety of reasons Peter didn't play on "Dynasty" and it wasn't because they had "gone Hollywood". 😆
Actually they said back then Peter was on his honey moon when they were doing the actual recording. That was over a month he & Debbie were out of the country.
@@scottcayouette6829 - So both the guys and Beth were waiting on Peter?
@@shyman99 from what I remember there's A LOT of stuff that was not recorded on studio by Peter and Ace, and a nice chunk of Gene basslines too. Paul is the only member who plays in all the studio albums.
@@RockoEstalon - Perhaps so. But should they trash the songs which are fan favorites just because they weren't playing on them?
@@shyman99 In this case they trash them because they were not on board with the road Kiss took. Ace I know hated Dynasty and fought to go back to a heavier sound, and Paul answered that with Unmasked and Music from The Elder.
Peter didn’t play on Dynasty and Unmasked cause producer Vinnie Poncia thought he couldn’t cut it anymore. And Vinnie was right. Also, he was in the middle of being replaced in the band. What a delusional fool.
And Paul Rothschild didn't think Jim could cut it when The Doors were recording "LA Woman" and left the project. He could never admit it was one of their best recordings.
IKR. Reminds you of that one loser you work with, can't do his job to save his life, then when he gets fired goes :"You can't fire me, I quit!".
Even Ace says Peter lost it with Alcohol,and Drugs…I wish he would just tell the truth, he wanted out, he was bringing the Band down, just go on with your life, I loved the Originals, but Substance by two hurt the Band, it wasn’t Paul or Gene doing drugs, it was Ace and Peter, Ace owned up to his faults…every part of Kiss is Kiss, I love every member, it’s life, so members leave.
Peter is a great guy at heart and part of the original KISS magic. But if we are being honest... he DID disrespect the magic of it all himself. He did get sloppy, both personally and professionally. He hurt the 'brand', and he either couldn't or wouldn't measure up to the standard they were trying to set. He mocked and laughed at the costumes. He criticized much of what the rest of the band were trying to do, and what the fans loved. The reason KISS uses his image isn't because 'lawyers got involved'. It's because Peter literally signed away his rights to the 'image' and make-up. Ace, on the other hand, did not. He still owns his image and make-up, but... leases it to KISS. That's why Paul and Gene are legally allowed to use the make-up. I do not agree with them using it. I think it's ridiculous. But... that's why.
You absolutely 💯 percent wrong!!!! Peter was amazing and fantastic and imagine being him and Ace and amazing and treated like stepchildren, pathetic!!! Peter and Ace made many mistakes, but have admitted to their faults, and the other two delusional idiots, hate the fact that they were both Peter and Ace very talented and in their prime untouchable!!!! Piss on Paul and Gene!!!! Team Peter and Ace always
Paul forever tarnished the 'brand' and the Kiss legacy with his lip synching crap. Peter was far from perfect, but he was always genuine.
@kevinchandler179 its amazing how Peter and Ace were all the talent but allowed Paul and Gene to get writing credit on 95% of their hits. How considerate.
@@Yocpucupwell said.
I’d have mocked and laughed at those costumes too. That Dynasty look was terrible, and so far away from the badass black, white and silver classic image.
Also, best song on Dynasty is Peter’s! Dirty Livin rules 😎
Okay- I thought it was funny that 2 or the first 3 callers were named Gene and Peter and when they took the last call I thought "oh, it's got to be Paul- and then it WAS! Lol. What are the chances?
Me too, I was surprised he or Eddie didn’t mention that
Three guys call in and talking to Peter, and their names are Gene, Peter and Paul. Did you notice that? How can that be?? Amazing...and weird.
I’ve thankfully never had a problem with drugs or alcohol but of the original lineup I like both Ace and Peter as both people and musicians the best.
What I’m saying is that I have more respect for people who are honest about their problems, especially when they are able to overcome them.
Both Gene and Paul never had a reputation for either drugs or alcohol but they are both two of the most arrogant and entitled individuals I’ve ever witnessed.
So you prefer honest drug addicts/alcoholics who jeopardized the band instead of arrogant, sober rock stars? Are you 15?
Peter and Ace had problems, end of story. Stop idealizing... but Ace has a great solo career, what about Peter? Your comparison is evil, you have no idea how tough it is to be held hostage by your addictions if you think like that...
@@redacted2275The fact is, 90% of musicians are on drugs and are worshipped.
Yet only Ace and Peter are called out on it.
Bet it doesn't happen with the Rolling Stones.
It had nothing to do with the drugs and lack of playing ability?
I bought Dynasty when i was 14, when it came out. It was my last Kiss album. I might have played it twice. My LP still has the cellophane on it.
I think mine may still be wrapped in it as well. I was a big fan as a boy, and hearing that album was a huge letdown. The goofy colours, Peter looking like he was fresh outta the nest and waiting to take flight, it was the end of a decade and Era for the band. The songs were mediocre, and everyone left the band in the dust.
They got lucky in the mid 80's with a handful of songs, and if they didn't reunite, the band would of faded away after Revenge.
They all wanted money, and I won't fault them for that, but they flogged that horse for twenty years too long.
@donhollio4383 I moved on, I discovered Rush 2112 shortly after.
@@megadethmofo2001 Curiously enough, Rush has more Platinum Albums than Kiss while playing a less commercial type of music. Granted Kiss probably made more money than them through merchandise but goes to show that Rush were right when the said "All this machinery making modern music can still be open-hearted".
Hell yeah, real music with real musicians@@megadethmofo2001
Rush that is!
Peter is an amazing guy.
he is BUT the last Question he didn't answer Honestly, "well there's lawyers & contracts"
when in Fact he SOLD the Rights to his make up for a Large sum of Money at once.
@@MetalHeart8787 Yeah I know. I think he did the best thing for himself at that point.
cool
PETER CRISS!! Just that... 👏🏻😎
Psycho City was the last KISS album worth listening to - I wonder why?
Psycho Circus
2 ways of approaching the "band" dynamic. It's obvious it was Peter/Ace VS Paul/Gene. Probably not the best situation for either party.
Eric Carr was by far a better rock drummer
Not by far. You’re exaggerating
Obviously yr not a drummer.He was simple. Singer is the best as v for talent.
I'm a drummer and Eric Carr was WAY BETTER than Peter Criss. the elder and cotn are recorded proof. @@drumrooster
We are not talking about Eric Carr are we. Different drummer, different genre.
Hahaha
I just want to applaud Keith 3:24
You can never measure your fame based on how popular you are in Japan. In japan you are famous waaay after you star faded everywhere else . It's kinda like a las vegas
Pretty hard to drum on an album when you’ve broken your arm in a drunk driving crash.
This is funny.
I Loved Beth
My mistake. The first person wasnt peter. Kiss got too big,not for their music,but the image. Gene and paul were trying to be rockstars and ace and peter were . Should have ended alot different.
Paul and Gene are billionaire icons and Peter is forgotten
He really showed them
Peter sold his rights to anything kiss a long time ago whereas ace leases kiss the right to use his likeness making him alot more money.
It really doesn't matter, because as a die hard Peter Criss fan, and he and Ace were founding members as well, why Paul and Gene being greedy assholes, would still let impostors wear their makeup and not give Peter and Ace a percentage??????? Literally, it's ridiculous, and Peter said years ago, he made a mistake with the lawyer he had, and laughed and said he hated dealing with lawyers!!!!!!
No goofball Ace Frehley sold his rights also
🤪🤪
@RoyPage1970 Ace has stated that he owns the makeup and costume, and has leased the rights to the band to use it. He is getting paid for them to use it.
Does anybody know if Pete and Ace received ANY money with the Kiss catalogue was sold for $300 million?
They should have received at least $40 million share as should have Eric Carr.
Bull. He didn't play on it was because he was too coked out to play. He was far more interested in getting high and brooding on a solo career. He says as much in his book.
With old guys like this that were drugged out back then, I imagine that they don’t actually remember how/why things went down the way they did. So all they can do is try to spin a narrative based on what they think their younger self thought at the time.
If he was drugged up, then he was like 98% of rock stars back then.
@@dhenderson1810 Not a question of "if". He said he was in his book.
Peter is great! One thing I wish Peter had done was his voice over work for the Phantom of the Park. That film is so much fun.
Paul’s hatred for Peter is why they didn’t play in the RNRHOF. If they could have gotten Ace without Peter, Paul would have jumped on it. But Ace and Peter was a package deal. Paul is …….something
Paul shoulda been the cat!
I always thought a car crash was the reason he didn't/couldn't play on it.
Unlike Paul and especially Gene it seems Peter never took the fans for granted he is very appreciative and grateful. Let me tell you as an ex Pro retired drummer there is nothing wrong with his drumming he was the the right guy for this band trust me!
Is that why Criss sabotaged KISS live shows during the Dynasty tour? Is that how he show his love for his fans?
Yea....we trust you....
He wasn't the right guy....Eric Carr was the right guy, unfortunately his life was cut short....he was the best drummer for Kiss
Being completely honest..I’m ok with KISS going on with other members..the reasons are endless money,hate ,disagreements musically..bla bla bla ..love Peter love ace ..and love guys who keep it going..it just is what is ..like he said “things happen man” ..who’s fault…who cares ..nothing anybody can do about it long live KISS …especially the original KiSS
Dynasty was actually my first Kiss album in the late 70s. I was like 8. So glad I got to see the original lineup live.
So he says he he didn't like the colour change and his heart wasn't in it and that's why he didn't play on Dynasty and unmasked. But he stayed with the band and toured with them. Cmon Peter, don't insult your fans intelligence, Tell the truth for once and the real reason you didn't play which we already know. You were in a car accident and Poncia said you shouldn't play on Dynasty because your hands were injured. And then you purposely tried to sabatoge the last few shows on the tour in 79 by changing the tempo in some songs. Gene, Paul and even your buddy Ace has confirmed this.
Nobody in rock music is an angel. That goes for Gene, Paul, Peter, and Ace. It's even in Peter's book where he had a car accident and had to recuperate during that time. He also describes going to rehab and working to regain his chops for a while. In fairness to all, I would think Peter left Kiss because he was tired and his time to be in the band had passed. I think he just needed to sort himself out and do things at his own pace.
@@Vince_Tasciotti Agreed
PS I meant Ace and Peter at least three or four times those are great cats to hang out with man there's only one ace in Peter folks and that is Ace and Peter Tommy Faker could never fill Aces shoes folks let me ask you this how many guitar players has Tommy Faker influenced I'll wait that's right zero you know how many guitar players ace has influenced one of them happens to be Tommy faker
ace quit tommy took his place? Tommy didn't choose he was hired to play the part. was he supposed to say no to a opportunity of a life time? geez i cant take the job because ill hurt aces feelings. ace blew 15 million and filed bankruptcy he was advised not to sell his interest in the band. he was hired to do the reunion and made millions and still owes the irs 250k. ace was a influence while in kiss unlike other influential guitarist he bitched about his old band for 20 years instead of moving on. i was influenced by ace but wanted to learn more and moved on rather than play the same licks for 40 years. why didn't ace and peter form a band they were half of kiss and supposedly great players? even now ace has a kick ass band that covers his ass. his solo album really? Steve brown was responsible for 95%. now the next excuse ace is old no ace is lazy there's plenty of guitarist his age and they don't screw up songs they've played for 40 years. as far as tommy he's been the guitar player in kiss for 20 years and the one who taught ace how to play his own solos for the reunion tour
@@bobpugliese4428 sorry man I have to disagree with you tell me this what Rockstar hasn't blown all their money
I was 9, and Dynasty was my first concert. I will always love the Original 4, and it pains me to see so much disfunction in the later years. Back then KISS could do no wrong, and was the gold standard.
Destroyer tour was my first concert, and caught them again on the Dynasty tour.
I love Peter, he is in fact part of the original lineup. But, he and everyone else need to understand something. First off, Peter if he would have just shown up for the rehearsals, left the drugs and alcohol alone. But also he sold his half out to the band KISS. So, it's all is fault that goes back to the mid 1976 when recording for the Rock And Roll Over album. Showing up to work on your time isn't cool or is not your rule to do, especially if there is a deadline for the recordings to make the album. It's a group rule, to show up when it's time to go to work. You don't make hours up for yourself when it's convenient for you. If the four of you agree to when to show up, show the f up. Plane simple. Peter you are one gifted man, and I love you bro, but, you have yourself to blame. This was a magical thing that the four you created, and you blew it.
Hey you're absolutely right because Peter flaked out. Him & Ace both were undependable and let the band and the fans down. They fucked up but i still appreciate their contributions to the original band.
Also agree here. Fan of the original four, Ace my favorite, and realize Gene and Paul have their own issues. But P&G put in the work (Paul especially in the 80's where Gene wasn't 100% committed to the band). I wish it would've worked out, that there was middle ground found, but that's life. The pointing of fingers is tiresome, but I'm happy the band existed and had their heyday...and we'll always have that at least.
ok the music business is a business.its not all fun and games.just because its not fun all the time is no reason to take your ball and go home for pete sakes.
Anton Figg a great drummer. Listen to Ace Frehley's solo album, that's Anton Figg. The drumming on Rip it out and Wipe out. Peter Criss is a dick, got himself kicked out.
Wow, some of these comments are a bit nasty and extreme, !!
If you're a KISS fan from way back, its a bit messed up.
We all know what happened, lets just get over it.
Peter was still pretty delusional here. It`s a well known fact that Peter was not able to play on Dynasty for different reasons. The car crash. Drugs and alcohol. Not rehearsing on the 2 year hiatus between 1977 and 1979..
Even his friend; Vini Poncia, who produced Dynasty was in on using Anton Fig.
Poncia said that Peter was tone deaf
Delusional? Or just a pathological liar?
@@siberianhusky5874 excactly
Takes a real man to admit he was fired because of his lack of chops and drug use. Not this guy.
@@andrewzenn1719 I think far more people would respect him if he'd been honest. America loves misfits who admit they fucked up.
I had heard the reason Peter didn't play on the Dynasty album was that he was drunk a lot and couldn't get it together long enough to lay down a decent drum track. Bad info, I guess.
He didn't play on Dynasty because they didn't let him and that is why he hates it.
The irony... Gene and Peter called in..
Love Peter Criss, really respect him. Love his Kiss solo album. Very underrated.
The fact that Gene’s solo album is by far the worst is still a fact that makes me smile. Not made one since either has he?!
Yep it’s better than Genes
@@KayDee73 His 2nd solo release was called Asshole & came out in 2004. He did a cover of Prodigy's Firestarter that was horrible.
If New York was its own country it would be bankrupt 😅
You know what they say about meeting your idols.
After the 1978 compilation "Double Platinum" and the 4 solo albums, KISS were pretty much dead to me. And I'll be honest. The only reason I bought the solos was because of the included posters, and not so much the music (with the exception of Ace's contribution).
And YES, I did and do like "Music From The Elder" and "Creatures Of The Night" although I didn't (and never will) recognize them as Kiss albums. Both I somehow see as some kind of glitch in the matrix. No Peter + No Ace = NO KISS!
My favourite cut on Dynasty is Dirty Livin and Hard Times
The whole record is great.
@@MetalSalvation nyes nor a bad track.😍
I especially love Dirty Livin... that song really grew on me.
agreed - dirty livin is a great tune!
Was having the remixing and rerelease of songs on Double platinum in 1978 the idea of Neil Bogart and Casablanca which solely had nothing to do with you or anyone else in the kiss camp???????
If i remember correctly they contractually needed a album but they Peter & Ace wanted out especially Peter so they released Double Platinum and went to do the solo albums
Dynasty is a great album. Kiss were evolving. I think it is still pretty strong and not overtly sexual like some of its predecessors.
agreed - its still a great album. not as raw as the earlier recordings. its more polished. kind of like destroyer.
His heart & and soul not into it??? Let’s be completely honest, Peter could no longer play well from Dynasty onward.
Even during the reunion, Psycho Circus, & Farewell tours his playing was lackluster at best. His timing was off & he had to use triggers on the drum set as he lacked strength in his playing. I like Peter and what he brought to the band but at a certain point he couldn’t play well anymore. It’s as simple as that.
He was awesome on the reunion tour, are you kidding me? He, was the oldest member of them and had arthritis badly, and still was focused and very sound!!!
@@kevinchandler179 Of what relevance is arthritis as an excuse? Either you can play or you can't.
@siberianhusky5874 At 49 years old and the car accidents as well genius, if your going to talk out of your ass, do it somewhere else!!! Catman the best, conversion over
@@siberianhusky5874 Try dealing wih chronic pain and things that impair your physical abilities and see how you feel. Clearly, something is affecting your cognitive abilities.
Sad that the original line up couldn't continue! Drugs and alcohol didn't help. The guys are now 80, the party is over! Happy I got to see the original band during the reunion tour.
“Dynasty Tour” I was 7. I was gonna be 8 in 4 more days. Had every album. Knew every song because I listened to every album. I still have that tour book I got that night. Dynasty is great and it’s different. Sometimes looking at your collection I grab Dynasty. Not their best but I do like every song on it.
My favorite outfits were the black leather and studs. I never liked the "Vegas" outfits.
Yep!
Peter and Paul, at least in hindsight, have expressed displeasure with the Dynasty outfits, in their books. Dynasty outfits were the first KISS outfits to have "outside help" i.e. designer(s?). Before that they designed outfits themselves, experientially modifying/upgrading for practicallity as they went along. Also Gene's sketchbooks were full of ideas, some of which were used. (Gene's LoveGun chest chains and Paul's Love Gun chain boots were originally from the same outfit sketch. Gene's LoveGun/Alive II wings&shouder covers were originally 'spider-webs' in a sketchbook. So the earlier Dynasty outfit/s for Gene (there were 4 at least in total, not counting Unmasked) had Spider-web wings (plus the lizard skeleton on his back. Plus a red cape: rectangle 'superman' red cape; short 'flames' red cape; long 'flames' red cape; asymetrically 'ripped up' red cape)
You mean dressed to kill ?
Are you gay? 3/4 of KISS is at least bi.
@@Drahculia I was wondering whether this sketchbook is available in any format...? Cheers
It's embarrassing that Peter lies his ass off, without Trunk and no one else reacting! He deliberately sabotaged a few of the shows during the Dynasty tour, and he wasn't allowed to play on Dynasty and Unmasked because he was to drugged out and could not play drums. And for him to say he like Japan?!? He said to Paul during the reunion tour, when they caused mass hysteria in Japan, " I`m tired of this Hard days night bullshit".
I couldn't imagine having to put up with that guy
Everyone can make a mistake (or mistakes). Ace and Peter deserve better.
Why?
@@vgr112261 why not?
How many mistakes, f-ups, sloppiness, inebriation, etc. are the other band mates supposed to put up with.
@@mattskustomkreations at least some words for them in the last show. You are right about the band thing.
Wasn't Peter in the process of being "let go" during Dynasty and that's why he wasn't involved as much? He wasn't involved at all in Unmasked. I think he got fired by then, but it wasn't made public. At the end, he was burned out and over it, and it showed in his performance, so they brought in studio drummers.
Pete and Ace were/are Real Rockers. Stanlie and Chaim were merchants and try hards.
Never liked either of them.
Billy Squire looks like John Wayne compared to Stanly.
F both of them.
Ace and peter are the real kiss
I dont know what the Real Deal is with Kiss but I wish All well .