Peter Criss Explains Why He Got Fired From KISS by Paul Stanley in 2004

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • In this video we take a look at an interview that Peter Criss gave about why he was fired from KISS in 2004 and about how he didn't want it to be the end for him in the band. He also talked about how Paul and Gene wanted to continue KISS without him. This is from an Eddie Trunk interview Peter did back in 2004 fresh after all of this went down.
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    Peter Criss Explains Why He Got Fired From KISS by Paul & Gene in 2004!

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  • @jeffspangler2367
    @jeffspangler2367 3 місяці тому +56

    Peter’s vocal on black diamond is the best…might be my favorite KISS song ever

    • @pauldunlea3669
      @pauldunlea3669 2 місяці тому +4

      He rocked that with his raspy voice my fav track as well

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 2 місяці тому +4

      He absolutely was amazing on a ton of songs, but Peter Criss and Ace guitar 🎸 solo, was frickin amazing on Black Diamond!!!!

  • @robertdirocco1885
    @robertdirocco1885 4 місяці тому +149

    He should’ve started a band called Kriss

    • @patben2330
      @patben2330 4 місяці тому +16

      With Ace !

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 4 місяці тому +1

      How many lawsuits

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 4 місяці тому +4

      Wouldve been a brilliant plan to leverage KISS into paying them millions. They would have settled & Pete & Ace would have came out pretty well.

    • @Carlos-xz3vi
      @Carlos-xz3vi 4 місяці тому +3

      You’re a genius.

    • @icuabc1235
      @icuabc1235 4 місяці тому +2

      🤟😆🤟

  • @xoox2609
    @xoox2609 4 місяці тому +23

    The problem I hear are the words contracts and attorneys. I understand, at some point, you have to treat a band as a business, but if you need lawyers and managers to communicate with each other, your band is already fucked.

  • @nanocoppersilvereauozen2788
    @nanocoppersilvereauozen2788 4 місяці тому +51

    My first time I heard and saw kiss was kiss alive 2 album, the image of that album cover and stage shot when you opened the double album blew my mind.

    • @midniterunband
      @midniterunband 4 місяці тому +5

      I can’t count how many nights I fell asleep with that album in my hand rocking to it when I was a kid

    • @teale30
      @teale30 3 місяці тому +3

      Rock and roll over my 1st hard luck woman and baby driver best songs

  • @RayBachGuitar
    @RayBachGuitar 4 місяці тому +350

    The biggest Kiss blunder was putting Ace and Peter’s makeup on Eric and Tommy. Embarrassing.

    • @Ticonderous1
      @Ticonderous1 4 місяці тому +32

      I totally agree... No one would even care that Tommy and Eric were in the band IF they had their own make up designs .... There would be no backlash at all ...

    • @fazole
      @fazole 4 місяці тому +6

      It may have to do with all the merchandise they already produced which show those 4 original members' characters. Then again, creating totally new characters would prompt fans to buy more NEW stuff, so who knows. The guy dressed as Ace was called a "supposed replacement for Ace" and he got pisssed!😅

    • @ThePatcore
      @ThePatcore 4 місяці тому +3

      Agree, if they had Eric and tommy wear new makeup, or even had them wear the fox and Ankh, i woulda been cool with it.

    • @ThePatcore
      @ThePatcore 4 місяці тому

      @@fazole I wrote this comment after only seeing the first sentence of your comment, so keep that in mind when you read mine... But now that I see your full comment, you do understand :) Anyhow, my reply to your 1st sentence: I disagree because kiss could have easily still sold those items and die hard collectors would have still bought it up as well as spent more money to buy the new merch the band could have produced showing the new 4 makeups (Or whatever makeups Eric S. and Tommy T. would have worm, be it original or the fox and Ankh. It actually would have made for more merch to sell on top of still selling merch with the original 4 on it.

    • @pooddescrewch8718
      @pooddescrewch8718 4 місяці тому +9

      Not really . People are still buying tickets .

  • @tonysams7261
    @tonysams7261 4 місяці тому +126

    Ace and Peter deserved better treatment at the end. Real diehard Kiss fans will always know this.

    • @WayneBarroncffcs
      @WayneBarroncffcs 4 місяці тому +4

      More went on behind the scenes than the fans know about.

    • @AtillaGenghisHuyter
      @AtillaGenghisHuyter 4 місяці тому

      Maybe the shouldn't have been drunken drug addicts.

    • @mastodon98
      @mastodon98 4 місяці тому +2

      No

    • @terryfox1575
      @terryfox1575 4 місяці тому +6

      I'll take Ace and Peter over Jean and Paul any day

    • @pauldunlea3669
      @pauldunlea3669 4 місяці тому +7

      I agree totally. Without Ace and Peter Nothing would have come after

  • @3rdranger1recon19
    @3rdranger1recon19 3 місяці тому +12

    Kiss without Peter and Ace, wasn't really Kiss!

  • @darthslater6077
    @darthslater6077 3 місяці тому +9

    WITHOUT ACE AND PETER..IT WAS A TRIBUTE BAND JUST LIKE GRAND FUNK WITHOUT FARNER...TRIBUTE BAND.

  • @ltjoseph9042
    @ltjoseph9042 4 місяці тому +31

    Guitar player
    weighs in:
    Peter is absolutely
    right. He's completely
    correct. The original
    Kiss is the only Kiss
    that matters. New
    Kiss? Peter doesn't
    buy it. Neither do I.

  • @pauldunlea3669
    @pauldunlea3669 2 місяці тому +6

    I once met Paul and there was only one other fan present. He refused to sign my album even though I told him I have been a fan for over 44 years. I also told him that I was present at the 1st Aussie tour 1980 VFL Park as a 13 yr old. He was arrogent and full of himself and refused to sign

  • @tupole272
    @tupole272 4 місяці тому +25

    What I had heard. And Ace kind of said this too. Ace told Peter he was making twice as much as him. So Peter got mad and refused to sign a new deal unless he made more money. Paul n Gene said no.

    • @glengamble526
      @glengamble526 4 місяці тому +5

      He never made twice as much-but he DID make a little more for a while, yes.

    • @jasonl1942
      @jasonl1942 4 місяці тому +8

      Paul and gene being greedy? That's never been heard of before...

    • @jeffmcdonald9004
      @jeffmcdonald9004 4 місяці тому +2

      Ten thousand a show more. Ace is a much bigger star.

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 3 місяці тому +2

      My friend told me Peter's playing was awesome during the 00 tour.

    • @3dawgs147
      @3dawgs147 3 місяці тому +2

      @@E.C.2Also heard that Ace didn’t know he was getting more Money then Peter once he found out he gave Peter the difference out of he’s own pocket
      To finish the tour Tells you a lot about Gene & Paul !! 🖕🏼ers 🤘✌️👍

  • @MikeSomerton
    @MikeSomerton 4 місяці тому +9

    Without Ace, and Peter...Kiss is squat..

    • @gtr1963
      @gtr1963 16 днів тому

      Exactly.. Tommy, Eric are kick ass musicians, but they are not Ace or Peter... only 1 KISS w makeup... Peter, Ace, Gene, Paul

  • @tomtoss2463
    @tomtoss2463 2 місяці тому +7

    If you were fired then you were an employee and not a band member

  • @broeheemed32
    @broeheemed32 4 місяці тому +35

    Much like in The Eagles, it was ultimately ego that destroys. Most bands start out on equal footing, then the "stars" develop, it goes to their head, and they start demanding a bigger piece, more control, etc. In my experience, you can't easily have a successful band if there are varying degrees of "importance". A vocalist thinks he's more important than the lead guitarist... the lead guitarist thinks he's more important than the rhythm guitarist, they all think they're more valuable than the drummer or the bassist.... then the band fractures. Look at the masters: The Beatles, Queen, Led Zeppelin..... they never replaced someone over egos. They had their run, then disbanded, and never tried to be "the new.......". by replacing someone.

    • @Taylor.Dude.
      @Taylor.Dude. 4 місяці тому +4

      Led Zeppelin and Rush never let egos get in the way, thankfully! They were all equals.

    • @juiceman8108
      @juiceman8108 4 місяці тому

      Drummers and bass players are a dime a dozen, you can make it with hired guns for these spots

    • @hwagnerDUI
      @hwagnerDUI 4 місяці тому +4

      Def Leopard stayed together. Original VH another ego implosion.

    • @lorensanders8501
      @lorensanders8501 3 місяці тому

      @@hwagnerDUI You mean after they kicked out Pete Willis I assume.

    • @lorensanders8501
      @lorensanders8501 3 місяці тому

      @@Taylor.Dude. Zep and KISS ran their bands pretty much the same - four equal partners, (until they decided to Peter had to go in 1980 and had to vote to fire him because of the incorporation of the band. Then G&P bullied Ace by outvoting him on everything until he finally quit 2 years later).
      If you don't think that Rush and anyone else never had battles due to ego, you're believing a fantasy - they may have kept their laundry much more private, but ALL groups deal with ego BS at some level, it is generally the biggest cause for people to quit, get fired, or to break up.

  • @JeffSherlock
    @JeffSherlock 4 місяці тому +7

    I think being fired from Kiss is a bit like being fired from Dollar store. Not a big thing.

  • @Davidstokes-b4k
    @Davidstokes-b4k 4 місяці тому +38

    Paul almost had it right, they should have named the band PISS after Peter and Ace left 😀

    • @Anglovox
      @Anglovox 4 місяці тому

      Except for the one song, I Love it Loud," I TOTALLY agree with you.

    • @joebidenisagayretard2410
      @joebidenisagayretard2410 2 місяці тому

      The millions they made and countless hit songs after those two hooligans were fired prove otherwise.

  • @Rieju-Sherco
    @Rieju-Sherco 4 місяці тому +8

    Thank you again and again!! Honest, it is that simple

  • @robmitchell5603
    @robmitchell5603 4 місяці тому +11

    In my opinion kiss is and always will be peter paul gene and ace that's kiss that will always be kiss

  • @therealandrecorbin4050
    @therealandrecorbin4050 4 місяці тому +7

    Anyone ever seen Paul Stanley and Ronald MacDonald in the same room

  • @coxscorner
    @coxscorner 4 місяці тому +28

    Peter, Paul, Ace, and Gene are Kiss to me, and always will be.

  • @Xconn67
    @Xconn67 4 місяці тому +15

    The original four had a symmetry, and Peter and Ace seemed like far and above more accomplished musicians in the band , they never sounded the same or produced the same quality of songs after they left

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 3 місяці тому

      Check out "Kiss live Brazil 1983." They were on fire bro,sounded heavier than the Scorpions. Vinnie Vincent took them to the next level,should've kept going in that Direction. Paul's narcissism prevented them from growing in the mid-late 80's.

    • @pauldunlea3669
      @pauldunlea3669 2 місяці тому

      So true

  • @MaitreMark
    @MaitreMark 4 місяці тому +2

    Well said Peter! I was an athlete in my 20s and 30s - being a full time athlete you are always carrying an injury. You treat it preform and treat it again. It is the only way.

  • @Pustekuchen-bh8wy
    @Pustekuchen-bh8wy Місяць тому +2

    For me, Kiss are Paul, Gene, Ace, Peter, Eric Carr, Vinnie and Bruce! That‘s it!

  • @carlvoltz1808
    @carlvoltz1808 4 місяці тому +73

    When kiss came out I enjoyed them when they got rid Peter and ace it was not Kiss

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 4 місяці тому +9

      It was KISS. Paul and Gene did by far most of the work in the 70's. Not much changed after Ace quit and Peter was fired. They ended up being replaced by better musicians and bandmates and people

    • @garytrew2766
      @garytrew2766 4 місяці тому +7

      I agree that was when they quit getting my money too.

    • @BeardedMikeG
      @BeardedMikeG 4 місяці тому +5

      They didn't get rid of Ace. He quit

    • @WhoGitDaBiscuit
      @WhoGitDaBiscuit 4 місяці тому +1

      @@brianstrutter1501No. It wasn’t.

    • @pooddescrewch8718
      @pooddescrewch8718 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah they were . I wanted the originals too but subsequent units if Kiss got the job done too .

  • @keithcummings3260
    @keithcummings3260 8 днів тому +1

    "You're too old to perform so we're going to replace you and keep going with another guy in your makeup"
    and
    "I'm too old to perform so I'm ending the band rather than be replaced by another guy in my makeup"
    -same person

  • @radioactive9861
    @radioactive9861 3 місяці тому +3

    I like ALL the members of KISS...Peter, Paul, Ace, Gene, Tommy, Eric(Carr), Vinnie, Mark, Eric(Singer), and Bruce.(Some of them I had to look up because I'm old and couldn't remember...)

  • @jasonl1942
    @jasonl1942 4 місяці тому +3

    Of all the surviving kiss members ive met, ironically the nicest of the original line up were peter and ace.
    Bruce is also in that mix too.
    The rest i could have lived without.

  • @TimothyWarner-q7s
    @TimothyWarner-q7s 4 місяці тому +19

    Peter is one of the nicest people he is humble and always forth coming honest

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 4 місяці тому

      Incorrect. Pathological liar and a prick to his bandmates

    • @patof72clune51
      @patof72clune51 4 місяці тому +2

      Not so nice when he cheated on his wife & destroyed his body & mind with vices & disrespected his fans by performing badly under the influence of vices.
      That's why he was fired.

    • @glengamble526
      @glengamble526 4 місяці тому +3

      Clearly you’ve never met him then…especially on a bad day.

  • @karl-unoisaksson4000
    @karl-unoisaksson4000 4 місяці тому +48

    Forever Gene Paul Ace and Peter in my heart... It's always you, Pete...
    Thanx for sharing 🙏
    Love from Sweden 💖

  • @allans7281
    @allans7281 4 місяці тому +50

    My eyes have to match what I’m hearing you need the original 4 that’s just the bottom line
    Taking nothing away from Eric and Tommy they’re incredible musicians but the magic is only with the four that’s the way it is

    • @stephenlandry9343
      @stephenlandry9343 4 місяці тому +7

      Right on man!

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 4 місяці тому +6

      Completely false. Why do you expect Paul and Gene to work with people that they don't get along with? Would you work with someone you don't get along with if you didn't have to? Of course not. Get over it. Ace is a lazy bum. Peter is a prick. They don't work well together. Time to move on

    • @TimothyWarner-q7s
      @TimothyWarner-q7s 4 місяці тому +9

      Ace Peter and gene an Paul that's kiss. Not that imposter line up

    • @MontserratCruz-l3i
      @MontserratCruz-l3i 4 місяці тому

      No era magia era juventud los primeros años de Eric y kulick mucha más magia y mejores conciertos eso es lo q hay kulick bmejor y Singer y Carr mucho mejor es lo qbyo he visto ....

    • @MontserratCruz-l3i
      @MontserratCruz-l3i 4 місяці тому

      ​@@TimothyWarner-q7ssi tu llegas a un trabajo y hay otros q llevan más antigüedad q tu. Ah siiii eres un impostor !!

  • @JarvisGandy
    @JarvisGandy 4 місяці тому +9

    I Agree with what Criss is saying here I only listen to the old stuff because in my opinion that's the Real kiss the other stuff the People the Fans we no Nothing about it we weren't behind the Scene seeing it.

    • @MarkDrumzEntertainment
      @MarkDrumzEntertainment 4 місяці тому +2

      It's *Criss not Chris.

    • @JarvisGandy
      @JarvisGandy 4 місяці тому +2

      @@MarkDrumzEntertainment thank you I changed it.

    • @MarkDrumzEntertainment
      @MarkDrumzEntertainment 4 місяці тому

      @@JarvisGandy No Problem You're welcome. Have a wonderful Day👍🏼🙂

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 3 місяці тому

      "Creatures of the Night."

  • @JesseDemayo
    @JesseDemayo 4 місяці тому +5

    Those guys just wanted to undercut Ace and Peter. He knew he could get the other two to play way cheaper.

  • @r.s.334
    @r.s.334 4 місяці тому +4

    Sounds like a wise nice man.

  • @DannyPepprs
    @DannyPepprs 4 місяці тому +5

    Long live the OG Catman Peter Criss

  • @ajjy1110
    @ajjy1110 4 місяці тому +8

    wasn't fired they just didn't renew his contract

    • @Davidstokes-b4k
      @Davidstokes-b4k 4 місяці тому +1

      THAT'S FIRED!

    • @richardfrench2863
      @richardfrench2863 3 місяці тому +4

      New Contract? He is a founder. Maybe he should call Paul and cancel his contract.
      I guess he allowed himself to a minority member when he should be an equal share owner.

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 3 місяці тому

      I heard they offered him $1 million flat for Australia & Japan,he said no,they replaced him. He should've played the tour,accepted the offer,and renegotiated after said dates were played. Very wealthy Men have different sets of problems than us.

  • @jumpingjacks5558
    @jumpingjacks5558 3 місяці тому +2

    Peter was not a consistent drummer. He couldn't read music, he was primarily self taught. He could sing and that was his strong point. Don't forget about the years of drugs and alcohol that were literally destroying him and the band. He was never a top notch player but he has a large ego. It basically boiled down to let him go, get a new drummer with fresh ideas and playing skills or keep Peter on with a band that would sink deep into the ocean because of all his problems that reached out to everyone in the band and drug them down. I'm glad KISS moved on and became bigger throughout the years with a different drummer.

  • @jimkalfakis9893
    @jimkalfakis9893 4 місяці тому +5

    I love these guys but, both Peter and Ace sold their makeup. Why are we still complaining?

    • @ThoArtOne
      @ThoArtOne 2 місяці тому +1

      because it doesn't matter to the fans, what G&P did is wrong anyways

  • @ochocabra1542
    @ochocabra1542 4 місяці тому +7

    i simply can't listen to Eddie Trunk

  • @WonkaVator72
    @WonkaVator72 4 місяці тому +2

    Interesting. So they (the members other than PC) wanted new, younger blood in the band. Did they also plan to replace themselves?

  • @Justentime77
    @Justentime77 4 місяці тому +14

    Peter always plays the victim with zero accountability and he's never honest or truthful. I saw em on their FIRST Farewell Tour and he could hardly play! Paul said he hit so soft that they had to use triggers set to their absolute maximum sensitivity level! He had health issues throughout the tour and they wanted to play longer shows and he was barely making it through the shorter one's.

    • @LarrySmithart
      @LarrySmithart 4 місяці тому

      U r a lying sellout

    • @mattrock12
      @mattrock12 4 місяці тому +1

      100% this is the catalyst for not renewing his contract. Would they sell more tickets with Peter? Maybe. Would it be worth putting up with his lacklustre playing and drama? That was a hard no for them.

    • @whocares5769
      @whocares5769 4 місяці тому +1

      Is this gene Simmons

  • @Afurthyclays
    @Afurthyclays 4 місяці тому +2

    "Why I hate everyone significant from my past"
    By Paul Stanley

    • @nickslade3978
      @nickslade3978 3 місяці тому

      “Because they undermine my sense of superiority”

  • @kravin74
    @kravin74 4 місяці тому +13

    I discovered a new song, new as in I had never noticed it before, by Peter that I really like, Blue Moon Over Brooklyn. I'm surprised it's not a bigger song than it is.

    • @martywhite2988
      @martywhite2988 4 місяці тому +2

      It's terrible.

    • @tatts2004
      @tatts2004 4 місяці тому +3

      crisscat#1 album great song

    • @TheGodYouWishYouKnew
      @TheGodYouWishYouKnew 4 місяці тому +1

      It sounds like something a 12 year old wrote and recorded.

    • @kravin74
      @kravin74 4 місяці тому +4

      @@TheGodYouWishYouKnew hahaha well that's pretty harsh! We all have our different likes and don't likes. Would be pretty boring if we all liked the same thing I imagine. I'm sure we like and dislike a lot of the same things but that's ok.

  • @Sulee.0
    @Sulee.0 4 місяці тому +16

    Believe it or not... Peter was a beast in 2003/04 and was in his best shape ever (after Alive) its facts..

    • @TheGodYouWishYouKnew
      @TheGodYouWishYouKnew 4 місяці тому +7

      I will take “or not”

    • @Sulee.0
      @Sulee.0 4 місяці тому

      @@TheGodYouWishYouKnew Thats ur opinion :)

    • @kevinchandler179
      @kevinchandler179 4 місяці тому +3

      He was absolutely one of the best five drummers on planet earth 🌏 from 74-78!!!!

    • @markstoudenmire4935
      @markstoudenmire4935 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@kevinchandler179 You don't know much about drumming, do you?

    • @fundhund62
      @fundhund62 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@kevinchandler179Hardly. But if he was your favorite, what does it matter?

  • @oliverwittofficial4997
    @oliverwittofficial4997 2 місяці тому +2

    He forgot to mention the interesting fact that he sold the rights to his make up for a lot of money.

  • @mimaspa1234
    @mimaspa1234 4 місяці тому +4

    i agree with Peter. Paul and Gene should of that what peter said

  • @-MetalSage-
    @-MetalSage- 4 місяці тому +1

    My favorite member of KISS, and the reason I became a drummer. 🤘🏻

  • @DesmondMulhern
    @DesmondMulhern 3 місяці тому +2

    This was 21 years ago.

  • @ufmwc
    @ufmwc 4 місяці тому +2

    P&G couldn't have cared less as long the cash till kept getting filled. Bringing back A&P was just a vehicle for them to reestablish a then floundering makeup-less/identity-less band and start selling tickets again. Once that reunion audience momentum (with makeup) was established they brought in the scrubs to finish the deal. Without A&P they wouldn't have been able to reestablish the makeup era and institute the hired gun cruise control they've been riding now for 20+ years..

  • @Davidstokes-b4k
    @Davidstokes-b4k 4 місяці тому +29

    Without Ace and Peter, it's just a tribute band 🙃

    • @ThePatcore
      @ThePatcore 4 місяці тому

      Without Ace and Peter, they shoulda either created new characters for Eric and Tommy, or just taken the makeup back off and brought back Bruce Kulick.

    • @Davidstokes-b4k
      @Davidstokes-b4k 4 місяці тому +2

      @@ThePatcore KISS was the first band that I've ever seen in 1974, I was 12 years old, I seen them with Bruce, and they sucked, actually the worst KISS concert I ever seen, they are just not KISS without Peter and Ace 🙃

    • @Davidstokes-b4k
      @Davidstokes-b4k 4 місяці тому +1

      Paul almost had it right, they should have named the band PISS😀

    • @jeffhodge7272
      @jeffhodge7272 4 місяці тому

      Like every other band with replacement members?
      Got it.

    • @Davidstokes-b4k
      @Davidstokes-b4k 4 місяці тому +2

      @@jeffhodge7272 when Bon Scott died, and Brian took his place, I can see that, they are still AC DC, but KISS , that's different.

  • @michaelaskates9523
    @michaelaskates9523 4 місяці тому +2

    Peter is his own drummer 🥁 I liked

  • @degatagauwatie4073
    @degatagauwatie4073 4 місяці тому +3

    He'll be seventy-nine this year.

  • @gideonharris1493
    @gideonharris1493 3 місяці тому +1

    Just imagine if George left the Beatles then later Ringo did. Both were replaced and the replacements were told they had to wear George and Ringo wigs and they had to wear the clothes that George and Ringo would wear??
    Just no!
    People like the originals. It's familiar. There are two exceptions that immediately come to my mind. (Yes I know there are plenty of others) Fleetwood Mac who (absolutely no offence to Peter Green) skyrocketed with the addition of Stevie and Lindsay, and ACDC, who accepted Brian because he did not mimic Bon. On that note, Brian faced a very tough crowd. They powered through and won. The new members of each band brought new songs and sound earning them fan recognition. I applaud that.
    For me though, Kiss is Paul, Gene, Ace and Peter.
    I lost interest after that. To me it seemed the new members brought nothing new to the table.

  • @Donandjess0305
    @Donandjess0305 4 місяці тому +4

    Love the originals. But too much bullshit with Ace and Peter. Though I agree, shouldn’t have put the makeup on Eric and Tommy. However, before Paul lost his voice? Those guys were awesome. At the end, the farewell with Peter and Ace was terrible. Drums were terrible. Ace was back to being Ace.

    • @Revolver6238
      @Revolver6238 Місяць тому

      Put up with them like the Stones put up with Keith Richards.

  • @mclionc2498
    @mclionc2498 3 місяці тому

    My daughter asked me twice if I wanted to go to a KISS concert. I told her no. She asked why. I said I have been to at least 10 KISS concerts and it was fantastic, one of the best times of my life, I do not want to tarnish that memory by going to a KISS concert now without watching the REAL KISS MEMBERS. After Ace and Peter left I held on as long as I could but never went to a live event again.

  • @bloodboughtsaint777
    @bloodboughtsaint777 4 місяці тому +1

    I agree that the OG KISS was KISS. When Eric Carr, and Eventually Bruce Kulick, joined KISS, that was the New KISS.
    They would drop the makeup, of course; but Eric and Vinny had their own makeup... they didn't barrow Peter's and Ace's personas.
    I really felt it was a slap in the face to Peter and Ace that Tommy and Eric Singer didn't get their own KISS personas, but reused Peter's and Ace's. It was wrong, and Paul and Gene know it.
    Although, I'm probably not the most authoritative KISS fan... my 2 favorite KISS albums are Music from the Elder, and Ace's Solo Album. I also own Revenge, but only for Eric Carr's Jam track at the end of it.

  • @jenniferanne4143
    @jenniferanne4143 4 місяці тому +2

    I think all parties involved here have handled all of this well though..🤔👍

    • @Davidstokes-b4k
      @Davidstokes-b4k 4 місяці тому

      I know Ace is still out there rocking 😀

  • @magicsinglez
    @magicsinglez 3 місяці тому +1

    The business side is, they’d rather pay 2 guys than pay 4 guys.

  • @massimilianoazzara9257
    @massimilianoazzara9257 3 місяці тому +1

    Kiss is a brand,no matter who’s behind these masks

  • @motowngirl5891
    @motowngirl5891 5 днів тому

    First time Detroit 1974 free outdoor concert on Belle isle followed that evening at the MICHIGAN PALACE
    April 7, 1974

  • @itchy-scratchy
    @itchy-scratchy 4 місяці тому +1

    Instead of doing a makeup reunion with Eric and Tommy.
    They should have just toured did new music with Eric and Bruce Kulick everything would have had more substance. Kulicks yrs had very solid albums and the old stuff would have been more acceptable. I saw the reunion show it was awesome Ace and Peter had they're chops for sure.

  • @ronniepatterson2827
    @ronniepatterson2827 4 місяці тому +8

    57 year old stroke having former drummer myself, I worshipped Peter & was lucky enough to catch my childhood obsession live on the Dynasty tour, shortly before he crushed my soul & left KISS. As a grown man, I will always love & respect Peter for what he gave KISS fans worldwide, especially me. That said, I belive what the other guys say about his time in KISS, cause its still excuse after excuse, same as when he got his wish the first round. Sooo, why didn't you play on so GD many KISS albums, Mr rockstar millionaire dream catcher Sir? Tummy ache? Room to cold? Fair enough. But what about group photos of you in flats, or live photos with half your makeup missing Mr semi talented / lucky af ? Feet hurting at that shoot, & eyes burning at that show? Ok then, sounds legit. lol Eddy Trunk's best work was when he produced the band ICON, while his worst work is his softball interviews of his rock idols - full stop

  • @liquemascis
    @liquemascis 23 дні тому

    Kiss became the greatest tribute act to itself.

  • @jaytee0316
    @jaytee0316 4 місяці тому +9

    When it comes to KISS, and Gene and Paul, it’s down to money. They wanted all of the money, and contracted “younger” talent because they didn’t pay them as much. The original four it was split four ways, new kiss it was split two ways, and even then they argued over money.

  • @thehouseofautumnspells258
    @thehouseofautumnspells258 4 місяці тому +33

    Kiss fucked up.
    Several times...

    • @RikJSmith
      @RikJSmith 4 місяці тому +6

      Agreed . And unfortunately it was several times .

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 4 місяці тому +10

      Ace and Peter fucked up several times

    • @TheGodYouWishYouKnew
      @TheGodYouWishYouKnew 4 місяці тому +3

      Must be why Paul and Gene have more more money than they could spend in 5 lifetimes.

  • @gusv8
    @gusv8 4 місяці тому +1

    I felt like sacking Peter after they did Beth 🤮

  • @lekid5332
    @lekid5332 20 днів тому

    KISS should have ended after Alive II (and skipped the awful fourth side). The six studio albums 1974-1977 and the two live albums was magic. Just great rock n roll through and through…

  • @user-lb8qx8yl8k
    @user-lb8qx8yl8k 2 місяці тому

    Paul said that Peter wanted the same amount of money as Paul and Gene. Not only that but Peter was miserable by his own admission. That said, having two guys portray themselves as Peter and Ace is disgraceful.

  • @KimberlyEllis-hu7pv
    @KimberlyEllis-hu7pv 3 місяці тому

    It will never be KISS without the original group members. Gene Simmons,Paul Stanley, Peter Criss,and Ace Frehley! They together made KISS! It wasn't the same after Peter and Ace left!😢

  • @AngelofDeath1431
    @AngelofDeath1431 3 місяці тому

    Having been a lifelong KISS fan from the beginning of the band, I can say with 100% brutal honesty, Peter and Ace “HAD IT ALL AND, BLEW IT”! This will ruffle quite a few fan’s feathers but, que sera sera. If they could’ve kept a handle on their demons (NO, NOT GENE), and just did their jobs within the KISS family, they would still be in the band THEY HELPED CREATE!, BUT NO…THEY LET THE BOOZE AND DRUGS TAKE CONTROL AND THEY FUCKED UP, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!! They don’t have a leg to stand on. And, as far as Tommy and Eric wearing the ICONIC Spaceman and Cat makeup, it was trademarked BY KISS, which they gave up their rights to when they left. So, all I can say is “too bad, so sad”!!!

  • @ccrider77
    @ccrider77 3 місяці тому

    It all went straight downhill after Peter and Ace left. Despite all the effort, spin and gimmicks afterwards, it just wasn't the same band, and the fans knew that...

  • @NelsonMontana1234
    @NelsonMontana1234 27 днів тому

    I'm not a big fan but respect their success. I can see Paul wanting to lift the quality of the band and Peter was a weak link. Add in personality problems and there you have it.

  • @63Drums19
    @63Drums19 4 місяці тому +4

    Peter did not have the chops to play any of the songs with double bass or semi complicated fills. Eric Carr and Eric Singer were far superior drummers. Peter was my first drumming influence and I respect the work that he did.

    • @ufmwc
      @ufmwc 4 місяці тому +2

      Paul Stanley hasn't had the 'chops' to sing in KISS for 15 years! Didn't stop him from foisting his hoarseness and fakery on the fans..

    • @63Drums19
      @63Drums19 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ufmwc No argument here.

  • @jasonrob1900
    @jasonrob1900 4 місяці тому +4

    You’re fired cause you’re too old Yeah like Paul and gene are young 😂

    • @mattrock12
      @mattrock12 4 місяці тому

      That’s Peter’s take. Not theirs.

    • @nickslade3978
      @nickslade3978 3 місяці тому

      They meant old biologically, not chronologically. Peter didn’t have the intelligence to take care of himself so he aged prematurely and was therefore unfit to stay in the game.
      100% his fault.

    • @ThoArtOne
      @ThoArtOne 2 місяці тому

      @@nickslade3978 Paul's singing was already much worse than Peter's drums skill in 2004, he should've fired himself then

    • @nickslade3978
      @nickslade3978 Місяць тому

      @@ThoArtOne 2007 maybe. His voice was declining but still great up until 2006

    • @ThoArtOne
      @ThoArtOne Місяць тому

      ​@@nickslade3978 sure he was able to sing. The point is his voice was declining more than Peter's ability to play drums, and today Peter at almost 80 years old plays drums and can sing a few songs while Paul can't sing a note, they had to replace his voice with some AI "four letter word" as Ace would say😁 So who aged prematurely, considering Paul is younger than Peter?

  • @dewayne2189
    @dewayne2189 3 місяці тому

    Without Peter Kriss kiss is not the same with out any of the founding members kiss IS NOT THE SAME. The fans want the original group !!!! Or it ant the same !!! Ace ,Paul ,gene , Peter or it’s ITS NOT KISS put your stuff aside with each other and give fans what they want .

  • @sparklesthecat6507
    @sparklesthecat6507 23 дні тому +2

    Kiss sucked without Ace and Peter.

  • @mikeconover2557
    @mikeconover2557 14 днів тому

    Peter and Ace was not in KISS anymore because of themselves and there screw - ups.

  • @ronnierocker4376
    @ronnierocker4376 4 місяці тому +9

    Read Paul and Gene's book folks. They always gave Ace and Peter all the chances possible.

    • @jimboslice5693
      @jimboslice5693 4 місяці тому +3

      They are assholes!!!!! No Ace, NO KISS!!!!!!

  • @renatatarnawski5974
    @renatatarnawski5974 4 місяці тому +13

    Gene has always been a Hard Taskmaster
    That's Y Kiss has survived
    And Thrived from their products

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 4 місяці тому +4

      Same with Paul

    • @pauli.vanili
      @pauli.vanili 4 місяці тому +7

      They haven't "thrived". They were irrelevant and almost broke and busted during a lot of the unmasked period. They copied every fad they could to try and keep up with everyone else in the industry until the reunion tour. Ace and Peter revived kiss and then Paul and gene dressed two imposters up and made kiss a tribute band because that's where the money is, that's all they're interested in, money.

    • @christine3043
      @christine3043 4 місяці тому +4

      @@pauli.vanili… you hit the nail on the head.

  • @tomkat_Kansas
    @tomkat_Kansas 4 місяці тому +1

    Ace and Peter got to big to young. They didn't stay focused back in the day because drinking and drugs were more important. My opinion anyway. I saw the original Kiss in 77 and Ace play in 2022. Always will be a fan.

  • @charlesvincent4127
    @charlesvincent4127 3 місяці тому

    Sad that band mates don't get that the magic is that the members are more than the sum of the individual parts. It isn't the same when you replace members.

  • @paulewhite
    @paulewhite 3 місяці тому

    I had no idea Paul and Gene were not on speaking terms back then. Did it change?

  • @ss-wh3sx
    @ss-wh3sx Місяць тому

    i agree... 100% my entire kiss collection is only stuff from the 1970s...

  • @TimothyWarner-q7s
    @TimothyWarner-q7s 4 місяці тому +13

    Paul Stanley just wanted to have total control he wanted people who only do what they are told to do no back talk or anything

    • @brianstrutter1501
      @brianstrutter1501 4 місяці тому +2

      Not true. That's what Peter wants you to believe

    • @TimothyWarner-q7s
      @TimothyWarner-q7s 4 місяці тому

      Must be a Paul Stanley fan you must like being ripped off paying for a non live show you must not know there are more than one side of a story Paul Stanley is a hypocrite and a egomaniac

    • @butchstevenson7029
      @butchstevenson7029 4 місяці тому +4

      @@brianstrutter1501 while I agree that Paul and Gene started the group Ace and Peter made up the core members of the band. They were right there with Paul and Gene paying their dues. They were there from the beginning. They created the personas. Yes, there were problematic moments in the past , and Paul and Gene managed to keep the band alive in a different direction, but you still can’t take that away from them. I totally get your argument (you’ve had a few retorts to some of these comments) , but then take the makeup and costumes off and perform the songs without it. Because it just comes off like a cash grab and they’re only delivering half the goods.

    • @pauldunlea3669
      @pauldunlea3669 4 місяці тому +3

      @@butchstevenson7029 I Agree and I have been a fan for 44 years

    • @pauldunlea3669
      @pauldunlea3669 4 місяці тому +6

      I met Paul and he was one Arrogant man / Full of himself

  • @dougstermcclellan5105
    @dougstermcclellan5105 4 місяці тому +7

    They SOLD THEIR RIGHTS TO THE IMMAGE!! FOR CASH!! It was ALWAYS Paul's band! Ace & Peter were hired! From the beginning!! Founding member?! That illusion was created by Bob! Paul & Gene (in spite of what's said, or whomever gets the credit) created "new characters" out of respect for the two original "hired guns"! Paul & Gene are geniuses!! They made the decisions that kept the cash flowing!! My ONLY issue with that fact is that I, too, contributed! And, if you're reading this, SO DID YOU! I'm certain that the two of them are grateful! 😂😂

    • @tatts2004
      @tatts2004 4 місяці тому

      Thats what cost them thier dis popularity.......KISS went downhill after the 78 solo albums

  • @DennisSult-e4d
    @DennisSult-e4d Місяць тому

    Kiss became one of strangest bands ever.1/2 KIss & 1/2 Kiss tribute band.

  • @rickfortine7454
    @rickfortine7454 4 місяці тому

    Tommy was the founder of the top KISS tribute group in LA / Hollywood back in the day called " Cold Gin " You can still see them here on UA-cam !!! Also Eric was a well known Gunslinger on the drums playing for many top artists such as Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, Lita Ford, Badlands, Brian May and Gary Moore as well as his own band ESP ... Not to mention Eric has always been a super nice guy to everyone !

  • @poppycock6572
    @poppycock6572 17 днів тому

    Peter and Ace should get together with Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony.... do a great album and tour.

  • @vegasraiderspetef9883
    @vegasraiderspetef9883 4 місяці тому +8

    tommy and eric singeer gave the band new life ,and 20 more years.Drumming is hard and peter was struggling

    • @zmaninpgh
      @zmaninpgh 4 місяці тому

      Well… Peter always had to ask his wrists in ice after the shows when they did the reunion tours. It was hard on him back then…

    • @GaryConnor-v9w
      @GaryConnor-v9w 3 місяці тому

      In those days KISS could only fill MUCH smaller venues. They could not book the large arenas again until the Reunion with Ace & Peter back again.

    • @E.C.2
      @E.C.2 3 місяці тому

      I was told his playing was fantastic on the 00 tour.

  • @janetevis1735
    @janetevis1735 4 місяці тому

    Peter Criss is my favorite singer in 💋 KISS, he wrote the song 🎵 Beth and that song was so Beautiful ❤No matter what people will think! As for Paul and Gene they should apologize to Peter for saying those awful things they said about him! And Paul Stanley also called Peter an Ace Anti- Simentic, when they were most definitely not!!! How do I know who said that because I read somewhere that Ace or Peter, I dont know who ever said that but they said that's ridiculous because they have Jewish friends!!! Paul needs to be a better person and a better friend!!!

  • @aleksik4028
    @aleksik4028 4 місяці тому

    Did he play on Kiss records, did he even play on his own solo album? What I've heard no. The wonders of showbiz....

  • @thomasmurphy9348
    @thomasmurphy9348 Місяць тому +1

    Didn't Peter and Ace sell their makeup? If so...sellers regret.

    • @Megrez-Alberich
      @Megrez-Alberich Місяць тому +1

      Peter did. Ace was smarter, as he licensed his makeup to Paul and Gene in perpetuity.

  • @kamakazimerc540
    @kamakazimerc540 3 місяці тому

    I'm KISS now. Some guy broke my legs like that Casablanca guy threatened to do for not giving up their Double Platinum Three Times Chinchilla Billboard Topping Album of the year without being paid first. They broke my legs, every year for practically a decade and stole every album of the year. Left me drugged, crippled, homeless , penniless , with countless amounts of medical problems like a smashed face and heart problems. Just goes to show ya.

  • @Mitch_NZ
    @Mitch_NZ 3 місяці тому

    It’s always Eddie “Ace and Peter are my husbands and I hate Tommy and Eric” Trunk.

  • @kingkrollinvention
    @kingkrollinvention 4 місяці тому +3

    why does this channel keep putting out old information?

  • @marcdewey1242
    @marcdewey1242 4 місяці тому +1

    I listened to Kiss in the seventies,until they became too main stream

  • @Carlos-xz3vi
    @Carlos-xz3vi 4 місяці тому +3

    I get that Peter is the original and all that, but Carr and Singer were light years ahead of Peter Criss.

    • @troybreeden8750
      @troybreeden8750 3 місяці тому +1

      Carr was awesome. Singer, not so much. And, putting the Criss make-up on Singer was shitty.

  • @janetevis1735
    @janetevis1735 4 місяці тому

    Paul Stanley is a mean guy and he even wrote a book about how bad Peter Criss and Ace were and he was insulting them!!! Gene Simmons was the same as Paul and they think they own the KISS Band too!!! I hope 🙏 Peter Criss sues Paul Stanley for writing that book!!! But I understand if he doesn't, because I would never sue anyone no matter what they say!

  • @haroldlebo2005
    @haroldlebo2005 4 місяці тому

    Tell me I'm wrong , every time a band loses an original member the chemistry between the fan and band goes and the band goes downhill from there

  • @googlesux666
    @googlesux666 3 місяці тому

    Paul and Gene wanted to "protect the brand" but all they did was weaken it. Nothing beats the original lineup although I loved Eric Carr and Bruce Kulick was great too.

  • @ldogin
    @ldogin Місяць тому +1

    He sucked at drums when he got old. What the prob? Show must go on.