Like Korey said, “12 Years A Slave” was the last great authentic-feeling “struggle film.” It portrayed many sides to the American slavery story- the economics, the “benevolent” slave masters, and the dangers of being a free Black man even in New York
@@Lillian.Gao. that's the kind of slave movies Hollyweird likes they don't like them when the slaves fight back physically fight back. Unless it's in Quentin Tarantino form.
The problem is struggle movies take up too much of the percentage of the films with Black leads. We NEED MORE of the other films. Not necessarily less of these
You know I get the feeling Hollywood itches to go back to the future and bring back the “Good old days” of slavery. These movies are like reminders to them and a warning to us.
THANK YOU!!!!!!! I’m genuinely tired of the struggle movies and it’s strictly Oscar bait. The movie looks great but I have an issue seeing this because of those reasons
Everytime I see movies like these, I just want to rewatch Django Unchained even more. This movies ran their course to me, and I want more well done movies like Django. That movie was a perfect combination of heart, revenge fantasy, and style.
It doesn't help that all things considered, that movie is a lot lighter on the violence than most slavery movies. It only shows torture of the oppressed when it's necessary for the plot. Everything else is just implied.
A film where majority of it is his character following a white dude? Also done by a white man who loves saying the N word every second? Thats perfect to you?
@@wingchundragon Well technically we follow both Walts and Jamies in a movie in racists times, and it was made by a director who knew how to make a proper black revenge fantasy flick so yeah its perfect
I want a big, action packed, blockbuster Bass Reeves movie. That’s what I want to see. And definitely more sci-fi and fantasy movies with black casts and unique story telling.
I saw this movie and it was very well done. Will Smith was great in it. He portrayed Peter brilliantly and his story is amazing and worthy of telling. This movie isn't about slavery. It's about freedom. All throughout the movie, Peter is fighting to get his and his family's freedom and in the end, he gets it.
I'm sick of rehashing history. I'm also sick of the cynical nihilism. I want more aspirational stories, stories that inspire me to be a better person. Stories that show what life COULD be. I want romance, heroes, adventure. Life is depressing enough, how about some stories that inspire hope and camaraderie.
That's a perfect surmising of this story. Everything that you just said you want to see. Watch the movie for yourself. Korey is a bit of a moron on the subject.
For real! Everything is dystopian shit nowadays. Even the HBO version of the Last of Us that's coming out in January. *LOVE* the game, but it's another zombie/infected/the world goes to shit in the future scenario.
Lmao, millennials desperately digging themselves into fiction instead of facing reality. It's alright to enjoy a fantasy every now and then, but I know some y'all spend 24 hours a week on bull while complaining about how other people make more money than you
Django Unchained was a perfect example of this type of movie that gave you more than just suffering, and you cheered on the hero (Jaime Foxx's character) as he got his revenge.
@@bobbykimble2013 So, you're saying that it would be ridiculous for Will to pay a little attention to his own daughter? 🤦♂️ Now, if you'd said that about his dumb-as-a-damn-rock son... 🤷♂️
The best and most powerful revolution ever was the Haitian one. In fact they made It so that once you stepped foot in Haiti you were considered free. Their laws said if you were black you were free so they made their nationality black not Haitian. So if a white or brown person escaped over there once they set foot in Haiti were considered black hence free. Why black? Because tainos were black some a bit lighter but still black. In fact an African ex slave was made Cacique and this general was crucial in the revolution. For once the slaves got off the ships on the Caribbean both the natives and the Africans recognized they practiced almost the same thing.The tainos knew these Africans were their ancestors and came from their homeland. And the africans thought.. So this is where you guys ended up huh? Africans sent thousands of ships to explore and most ended up in south america and the Caribbean. First oldest statues in South America are big nosed big lipped black people, Facts..
Look up the history on Tim Buk Too it's a real place. Timbuktu relates to an African prince that had the most prosperous and richest people in the planet at the time. He actually went around giving away gold and destabilized the value of gold for a while.
This can't be a comeback, he never went away. He slapped Chris in March of this year...he hasn't even been gone for a full year lol. Also, also, we just had Till now this?! If our ancestors could see us watching anything like this they would probably ask us why we consider this a form of entertainment.
I love that Marvel made Kang and The High Evolutionary black men. Not only are these roles different from what black people are usually cast for, but they also are completely detached from Africa or the African American struggle. Kang and the High Evolutionary are so beyond anything that is happening on Earth, none of that shit means anything to them. They aren't defined by their skin color nor are they defined by their culture, despite being black. They are highly intelligent black men as well, and they are big bad villains. And they aren't black drug dealing hood villains or out of touch uncle Tom black villains. It's sooo refreshing. They're the biggest thing I'm looking forward to in the MCU.
Yes, this is why I vibe with the MCU's black actors. They're largely not portraying characters JUST dealing with "the struggle". Yeah, Luke Cage's show dealt with neighborhood violence to an extent, but that was also sort of true to the character. Nick Fury isn't just an angry black guy, he's THE angry black man who justifiably is a little peeved when the guy with a big iron suit starts flying in war zones or some big blonde frat bro god starts swinging his hammer around. Sam Wilson's story (which in the comics actually had race issues as part of it) isn't about hood crime but about a man trying to follow an important legacy--not following a white guy but the ideals he represented and that Sam himself originally served in the military for.
Yeah, speaking as a Brown Florida Man, learning what "gator bait" meant, at least historically, really killed my mood for the rest of the week when I found out about 2 years ago. You know something just as crazy? I first learned about the Tulsa massacre, not in history classes in school, but in the HBO _Watchmen_ miniseries. Talk about how lacking American education is. Like, did you know that Jim Crow laws and laws that outlawed teaching literacy to black people came about after the Haitian Revolution? I learned all this and more from Knowing Better's video "Neoslavery: The Part of History You've Always Skipped". A honestly 10/10 video by Knowing Better about something that should be taught in every school in America. It's insane to see the evolution of chattel slavery to the prison-industrial complex. The best part is that due to his past as a former Social Studies teacher, the video is presented in such an _appropriate_ way that you could show this to a middle school, high school, and college class. One question it asks is, "When was the last slave freed from slavery?" Hint: Not that far back as we like to assume. And we got the Japanese attack on Pearl Harvot to thank for it. Also check out the UA-cam Shorts that Knowing Better uploads which features small tidbits that he cut from the big video. Also, his video "Company Towns: Un-America and yet, totally American" is a very good companion piece and even primer for the Neoslavery video. Definitely check these all out, hit the like and subscribe buttons, and comment because KB really hit it out of the park with this straight up banger of a video. Go and give it support because I honestly consider it one of the best video essays of 2022.
Right. As much as we don’t wanna watch these films and tired of hearing about the traumatic abuse placed on Africans and African Americans, we need to continue to talk about it. They’re trying to erase this part of history and act like it didn’t happen. Don’t let ANYONE forget it. I get tired of African Americans trying to disassociated with their Africanness or say “we wasn’t just slaves we were kings and queens”. Yes we’re are queens and kings, but unfortunately some of our ancestors were slaves. It’s not their fault they were. Slavery affects us to this day!
Right. As much as we don’t wanna watch these films and tired of hearing about the traumatic abuse placed on Africans and African Americans, we need to continue to talk about it. They’re trying to erase this part of history and act like it didn’t happen. Don’t let ANYONE forget it. I get tired of African Americans trying to disassociated with their Africanness or say “we wasn’t just slaves we were kings and queens”. Yes we’re are queens and kings, but unfortunately some of our ancestors were slaves. It’s not their fault they were. Slavery affects us to this day!
I appreciate your thoughts. I feel so differently. Damn, it's not going to be easy in the future. I just feel that we all know what happened but where do we supposed to do about it and what time is so short we have precious seconds is it is you know if I meet you present day even if your potato bug I'm going to help you out if I can, you know what I mean it's just kind of want to live in the moment and films like this just make it so impossible for me so I'll choose not to watch it but I appreciate that you feel in your passions the way you do. I think that I don't know about the acting I don't know anything about that don't know if it's a good movie or a bad movie. I don't know if Will Smith did a great job or a bad job but doesn't matter to him he did the best he could from the heart, there any criticism seems like a waste and my time.
Heard enough. Black ppl were more then just slaves. Theres a whole world outside of America. Where are those stories of black kings and queens of Africa?
Fun fact: Quentin Tarantino originally wrote the role of Django for Will Smith, but Smith turned it down because he didn’t like that Django wasn’t the sole focus of the movie and that there was just as much going on with the other characters. “FINE! I’LL MAKE MY OWN SLAVERY MOVIE! WITH BLACKJACK!…AND HOOKERS!…ACTUALLY FORGET THE SLAVERY MOVIE!”
I think Will Smith also mentioned to Jamie Foxx in the Oscars Best Actor Roundtable video that he didn't take the role of Django because it wasn't romantic enough and didn't fit into his carefully curated brand as an actor.
@@ajiththomas2465 Will thinking in terms of brand is exactly why he made both the Matrix and Django mistakes. I mean, it's nice that he's so brazenly honest about how calculated he is but at the same time, he's made some real bone head choices sometimes and kept him from taking more risks.
Which era of Black American history would you like to see highlighted? The Jim Crow era? Mass incarceration? Black American history IS trauma. You can’t run from it.
It's definitely Oscar bait, almost algorithmic, and had he not slapped Chris, we'd probably see this get a strong consideration campaign during voting.
Talking about the movie, despite the common slavery narrative that almost always comes about as Oscar bait, I was really fascinated by the trailer because of the cinematography. There were a lot of creative and interesting shots and angles that you don't really see in historical biopics like these and you could really tell that Antoine Fuqua put a lot of thought into how this movie looked. I had only really checked out the trailer for Emancipation because of the thumbnail of the Double Toasted video right here and what ultimately clinched my interest besides the interesting cinematography was that it was based on the (in)famous picture of the Slave With Scars On His Back which showed the brutality of slavery. So I'm rather intrigued to see how it all plays out and if it can rise above the norm of slavery narratives.
Chris Rock was absolutely right about Civil Rights/Struggle Movies cause it's a sanitized version and will never showed the actual horrors of The Civil rights movement.
Bro they're not going to even show how we rebelled against slavery there were several rebellions throughout history the way they keep showing these movies that we just sit there and just submit it to being slaves we fought against this we established our own colonies and they never going to show the kings and queens actually fought slavery in Africa and the only movie they going to show about Africa is a tribe who helped the slave trade and gave a revisionist history of it and then you got viola Davis coming out to telling people if you don't support this women picture you don't support women she's full of shit herself
Would love to see a movie about Juneteenth in current times where a guy from the south tries to celebrate it in the northern states and gets told that wasnt a real thing for years till Atlanta does a epsiode and the government makes it a national holiday....
If this was the middle of the 2000’s the parody would have been “Not another slave movie” like it’s ofc a part of history we shouldn’t forget but a lot of these movies are just bait.
The same people complaining about slave movies are usually the people who have no problem watching shows like the Wire, Snowfall, BMF, Power and a bunch of other stuff that portrays black men as violent, drug dealing, murderous criminals. They pay Curtis" 50 cent" Jackson to produce a new "Hood drama" at least twice a week so obviously people are watching. I find that interesting
@@elijaharvinger1178 the main antagonist in snowfall is a white dude tho so not just angry black men stereotypes but more of the drug environment stereotypical life
I actually want to check this movie out and he does join the fight in the Union Army during the Civil War. So not exactly like 12 years as a slave where you had your standard beat down slave scenes and the white savior at the end coming in to save.
And that movie is based on a true story that ended well from the people who actually went back to Africa and spoke African languages this is one thing a lot of people don't realize that when the first slaves came to this country they did not speak English at all or do they worship this religion that has brainwashed our culture for decades the most ironic part we are worshiping the religion that are slave owners brainwash are ancestors with
@@jamesway yeah. I watched the first 20 mins or so the other day on youtube. It's wild. The movie is made as if movies existed in that time period. The plantation owners straight up discuss the fact that there are documentarians there. It's played completely straight too. It's fascinating for many, many reasons. I don't think many people know about it, but it's worth checking out. The imagery is completely realistic- for better or worse.
I think Will could genuinely be touched by thee story.. I also think this is his Django redemption. Lol. If in remembering correctly he'd turned that role down, before Jamie Foxx stepped into it.. & I'm sure Will wanted to smack himself when he saw how well it did.. So it could also be like this is him recreating that opportunity for himself.
I think Will Smith also mentioned to Jamie Foxx in the Oscars Best Actor Roundtable video that he didn't take the role of Django because it wasn't romantic enough and didn't fit into his carefully curated brand as an actor.
A black man fighting against all odds to return to his family. A true story about a strong, powerful, protective, black father figure is rare. Django really?!
This is our history!! You do our ancestors a disservice by saying no "slave movies!" Theyre taking this out of schools, people! The young need to learn. That being said..this movie was amazing. Featured a black man, Will and directed by a black man, Antone! Its the story of survival where he escapes and fights back! Very inspiring on how we as a people can endure the worst and make it through
It would be a touchy thing. A lot of his wealth came from the slave trade. They'd either cover that up completely or sugar coat it. You wouldn't be permitted to celebrate an important African while admitting that they were as enthusiastic about slavery as anyone else. 🤷♂️ His story IS worth telling though.
Plus one of the big criticisms the Oscars have faced is only recognizing historic dramas, and not recognizing other films, like comedies, horror, or sci-fi.
If Will Smith wanted a massively successful return he should have done Hitch 2 , slave/struggle movies are no long made for the masses it’s to win a Oscar’s
Africans thought the ships got lost and a couple returned and explained weird phenomenon that caused the ships to scatter and get lost. It's theorized this was probably the Bermuda triangle which has a lot of sailing hazards. Centuries later a prince or king sent double the amount of ships to find them. And he himself went, his thought was that they were strong people so they must've survived. It's said they arrived in South America and the natives bowed to them when they saw all the gold and accessories that were the same they had kept from when they first arrived. English scholars also knew that the spears of many of the natives in the Caribbean and South America were the same as the African ones.
I’m sorry y’all but I cannot watch these kind of movies and not get angry. What is wrong with my people when they can whoop our ass, and then they need some help and we jumped right in line to help out. Knowing how later they segregated our asses and lynched us it just pisses me off more. I’m going to go have to watch Django to just shake this off. And Guys I absolutely love your show! Everything about it and keep it up! 100% agree about these suffering movies.
After 12 Years A Slave, I don't need any more slave movies for a very long time. Will Smith took this role just for his redemption comeback, that's cynical, but exploitive.
I've revised my opinion on Will Smith and the Oscars. They banned him from attending the Oscars. I think he should be allowed to come, but he has to have the worst seat in the house. Way way up in the upper balcony, back row. That way if he gets really mad at a joke, he's gotta get up, say "pardon me, excuse me" as he squeezes his way past people walk down three floors and then get to the stage. That way he has time to think. And the person who insulted him has probably finished presenting and left.
I personally don't mind the "Oscar Bait Slave movie", it's good to know the history of course. However, the actors in it I HAVE to detach myself because at the end of the day, here's a man going home to his multimillion dollar mansion with help and assistants of his own lol. I think it's more important to make "struggle" movies focusing on the NOW. Not the THEN. With unknown faces, REAL relatable people, with struggles of the NOW. To make a bigger impact. So that the acceptance speech isn't about the actor, but about us and current struggles for POC
The issue I have with the movie is the lack of strong conversational dialog. There's too many scenes that felt monologued. Still a movie worth watching.
People aren’t born psychotic. A power dynamic as ugly as slavery creates half a society that is drunk on that power. Equality sobers the way we treat each other.
Is it a Hollywood tradition to have at least one slave movie per year? WTF??? I’m surprised it didn’t drop back in February. Struggle films should be a new genre which I’m also conflicted with.
Like Korey said, “12 Years A Slave” was the last great authentic-feeling “struggle film.” It portrayed many sides to the American slavery story- the economics, the “benevolent” slave masters, and the dangers of being a free Black man even in New York
And you forgot your white savior trope at the end.
@@grapeshot that was handled heavy-handedly, but hey it did happen
@@Lillian.Gao. that's the kind of slave movies Hollyweird likes they don't like them when the slaves fight back physically fight back. Unless it's in Quentin Tarantino form.
That was my last slavery Movie. Haven’t watched one since.
Django was the last one for me after that I didn’t need anymore slave movies .
The problem is struggle movies take up too much of the percentage of the films with Black leads. We NEED MORE of the other films. Not necessarily less of these
Nah...we need less of these too. Let's see other races suffer in movies 🙄
The hell it does.
You know I get the feeling Hollywood itches to go back to the future and bring back the “Good old days” of slavery. These movies are like reminders to them and a warning to us.
@SKOTxFREE Your comment is refreshingly stupid. It’s like a York Peppermint Patty of stupid. Wow.
THANK YOU!!!!!!! I’m genuinely tired of the struggle movies and it’s strictly Oscar bait. The movie looks great but I have an issue seeing this because of those reasons
Everytime I see movies like these, I just want to rewatch Django Unchained even more. This movies ran their course to me, and I want more well done movies like Django. That movie was a perfect combination of heart, revenge fantasy, and style.
It doesn't help that all things considered, that movie is a lot lighter on the violence than most slavery movies. It only shows torture of the oppressed when it's necessary for the plot. Everything else is just implied.
Exactly! What’s crazy is you could make another Django movie with the Haitian Revolution. It’s damn near the same thing if you know the story lol
A film where majority of it is his character following a white dude? Also done by a white man who loves saying the N word every second? Thats perfect to you?
@@wingchundragon Well technically we follow both Walts and Jamies in a movie in racists times, and it was made by a director who knew how to make a proper black revenge fantasy flick so yeah its perfect
Also portrayed the KKK as idiots
I want a big, action packed, blockbuster Bass Reeves movie. That’s what I want to see. And definitely more sci-fi and fantasy movies with black casts and unique story telling.
Or a movie about that washington guy who went to congress and got money to go to the Congo.
Yes Yes 👍
Bass Reeves was great! I’d watch that movie right away
I saw this movie and it was very well done. Will Smith was great in it. He portrayed Peter brilliantly and his story is amazing and worthy of telling. This movie isn't about slavery. It's about freedom. All throughout the movie, Peter is fighting to get his and his family's freedom and in the end, he gets it.
Yea yes! Folks missed the simple point.
The thumbnail alone deserves an Oscar
FACTS! 🤣
The Oscar for Best thumbnail goes to.... Double Toasted!
Right yo 😂😂😂
Hopefully Will doesn't read this comment and slap you silly.
@@rommix0 lmaoo not unless he gets permission from his wife Bruce Willis to do it lol.
I'm sick of rehashing history. I'm also sick of the cynical nihilism. I want more aspirational stories, stories that inspire me to be a better person. Stories that show what life COULD be. I want romance, heroes, adventure. Life is depressing enough, how about some stories that inspire hope and camaraderie.
Agree with you
Yeah I'm with you. It's a big reason I don't go to movies that often anymore. Spider-Verse was the last theatrical movie I saw.
That's a perfect surmising of this story. Everything that you just said you want to see. Watch the movie for yourself. Korey is a bit of a moron on the subject.
For real! Everything is dystopian shit nowadays. Even the HBO version of the Last of Us that's coming out in January. *LOVE* the game, but it's another zombie/infected/the world goes to shit in the future scenario.
Lmao, millennials desperately digging themselves into fiction instead of facing reality. It's alright to enjoy a fantasy every now and then, but I know some y'all spend 24 hours a week on bull while complaining about how other people make more money than you
Slaves was living a 24/7 horror movie
Django Unchained was a perfect example of this type of movie that gave you more than just suffering, and you cheered on the hero (Jaime Foxx's character) as he got his revenge.
Disagree 100%. Hate that movie.
Agreed
@@Utada379 why
Korey and Martin HATE that movie. Look up their Spill review
Do you really say that in public?
Will said Willow told him "Dad, do we really need another slave movie?" When he told her he was gonna make this. He should've listened.
Willow Smith, unlikely voice of reason
This is a great point because every time I get ready to make an important life changing decision I think; what would would Willow say?
@@bobbykimble2013 So, you're saying that it would be ridiculous for Will to pay a little attention to his own daughter? 🤦♂️
Now, if you'd said that about his dumb-as-a-damn-rock son... 🤷♂️
@@TroubleToby3040 if Will was smart he would FINALLY play a bad guy. Especially since his image is ruined
@@jetla22 Will could play a good bad guy for sure, and it would be great for him to play against type for once. 👍👍👍
I want a Haitian Revolution film
Watch 1804
The best and most powerful revolution ever was the Haitian one. In fact they made
It so that once you stepped foot in Haiti you were considered free. Their laws said if you were black you were free so they made their nationality black not Haitian. So if a white or brown person escaped over there once they set foot in Haiti were considered black hence free. Why black? Because tainos were black some a bit lighter but still black. In fact an African ex slave was made Cacique and this general was crucial in the revolution.
For once the slaves got off the ships on the Caribbean both the natives and the Africans recognized they practiced almost the same thing.The tainos knew these Africans were their ancestors and came from their homeland. And the africans thought.. So this is where you guys ended up huh? Africans sent thousands of ships to explore and most ended up in south america and the Caribbean. First oldest statues in South America are big nosed big lipped black people, Facts..
Look up the history on Tim Buk Too it's a real place. Timbuktu relates to an African prince that had the most prosperous and richest people in the planet at the time. He actually went around giving away gold and destabilized the value of gold for a while.
@@Enuelle I know about Timbuktu interesting stuff
Martin had the Pikachu face 🤣 Korey was saying all these positive things about the movie then said a very, very low matinee. 😆
I’m still a Will Smith fan but man him and his family are just comedic gold for all the wrong reasons 😂
I used to be a Will Smith. All I see him now is as a joke. However, he now has a much better chance at a career comeback than Kanye ever will.
@rommix0 Kanye needs to sit down for a while.
Was extremely disappointed that he got to play Ali who is my favorite fighter... Even the movie could have been better and a trilogy...
Right everybody in that house is weird
At least they not ti kids
This can't be a comeback, he never went away. He slapped Chris in March of this year...he hasn't even been gone for a full year lol. Also, also, we just had Till now this?! If our ancestors could see us watching anything like this they would probably ask us why we consider this a form of entertainment.
Thank you!! Great points!
These are stories that deserve to be told along with many others
I love that Marvel made Kang and The High Evolutionary black men. Not only are these roles different from what black people are usually cast for, but they also are completely detached from Africa or the African American struggle. Kang and the High Evolutionary are so beyond anything that is happening on Earth, none of that shit means anything to them. They aren't defined by their skin color nor are they defined by their culture, despite being black. They are highly intelligent black men as well, and they are big bad villains. And they aren't black drug dealing hood villains or out of touch uncle Tom black villains. It's sooo refreshing. They're the biggest thing I'm looking forward to in the MCU.
This is why I appreciate Nick Fury even more than I already do.
Yes, this is why I vibe with the MCU's black actors. They're largely not portraying characters JUST dealing with "the struggle". Yeah, Luke Cage's show dealt with neighborhood violence to an extent, but that was also sort of true to the character. Nick Fury isn't just an angry black guy, he's THE angry black man who justifiably is a little peeved when the guy with a big iron suit starts flying in war zones or some big blonde frat bro god starts swinging his hammer around. Sam Wilson's story (which in the comics actually had race issues as part of it) isn't about hood crime but about a man trying to follow an important legacy--not following a white guy but the ideals he represented and that Sam himself originally served in the military for.
Still won't do nothing for black people more than seeing movies like these lol.
“Self hatred dogs” 😂
Will Smith: Rightfully complained for years about the Oscars' racism
Also Will Smith: Hand me dat slave script!
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Lmao 💯
Cause thats the only black story holywood knows.
@@triggerfairy4070 Will and Jada have an entire production company. Are they not Hollywood?
@@giancarlojacobs9982 they are. XD. Which is even funnier, if this was done under their production.
He’s about to slap the Academy- I mean, thank the Academy once again.
16:40 man, the alligator scene might be too much for me. Hearing about how they used to feed us to those things is beyond traumatic. Pure evil
Who said they fed us to alligators? No where in slave narratives they fed us to alligators
Pure evil is correct. Don't traumatize yourself
Yeah, speaking as a Brown Florida Man, learning what "gator bait" meant, at least historically, really killed my mood for the rest of the week when I found out about 2 years ago.
You know something just as crazy? I first learned about the Tulsa massacre, not in history classes in school, but in the HBO _Watchmen_ miniseries. Talk about how lacking American education is. Like, did you know that Jim Crow laws and laws that outlawed teaching literacy to black people came about after the Haitian Revolution?
I learned all this and more from Knowing Better's video "Neoslavery: The Part of History You've Always Skipped".
A honestly 10/10 video by Knowing Better about something that should be taught in every school in America. It's insane to see the evolution of chattel slavery to the prison-industrial complex. The best part is that due to his past as a former Social Studies teacher, the video is presented in such an _appropriate_ way that you could show this to a middle school, high school, and college class.
One question it asks is, "When was the last slave freed from slavery?" Hint: Not that far back as we like to assume. And we got the Japanese attack on Pearl Harvot to thank for it.
Also check out the UA-cam Shorts that Knowing Better uploads which features small tidbits that he cut from the big video. Also, his video "Company Towns: Un-America and yet, totally American" is a very good companion piece and even primer for the Neoslavery video. Definitely check these all out, hit the like and subscribe buttons, and comment because KB really hit it out of the park with this straight up banger of a video. Go and give it support because I honestly consider it one of the best video essays of 2022.
@@ajiththomas2465 thanks for the info. I’ll definitely be looking into this.
@@DeeSee25
👍🏽. Tell me what you think after you've see it, if you want to.
These stories need to be told. It's America's Horror Story
True
Right. As much as we don’t wanna watch these films and tired of hearing about the traumatic abuse placed on Africans and African Americans, we need to continue to talk about it. They’re trying to erase this part of history and act like it didn’t happen. Don’t let ANYONE forget it.
I get tired of African Americans trying to disassociated with their Africanness or say “we wasn’t just slaves we were kings and queens”. Yes we’re are queens and kings, but unfortunately some of our ancestors were slaves. It’s not their fault they were.
Slavery affects us to this day!
Right. As much as we don’t wanna watch these films and tired of hearing about the traumatic abuse placed on Africans and African Americans, we need to continue to talk about it. They’re trying to erase this part of history and act like it didn’t happen. Don’t let ANYONE forget it.
I get tired of African Americans trying to disassociated with their Africanness or say “we wasn’t just slaves we were kings and queens”. Yes we’re are queens and kings, but unfortunately some of our ancestors were slaves. It’s not their fault they were.
Slavery affects us to this day!
I appreciate your thoughts. I feel so differently. Damn, it's not going to be easy in the future. I just feel that we all know what happened but where do we supposed to do about it and what time is so short we have precious seconds is it is you know if I meet you present day even if your potato bug I'm going to help you out if I can, you know what I mean it's just kind of want to live in the moment and films like this just make it so impossible for me so I'll choose not to watch it but I appreciate that you feel in your passions the way you do. I think that I don't know about the acting I don't know anything about that don't know if it's a good movie or a bad movie. I don't know if Will Smith did a great job or a bad job but doesn't matter to him he did the best he could from the heart, there any criticism seems like a waste and my time.
Heard enough. Black ppl were more then just slaves. Theres a whole world outside of America. Where are those stories of black kings and queens of Africa?
Fun fact: Quentin Tarantino originally wrote the role of Django for Will Smith, but Smith turned it down because he didn’t like that Django wasn’t the sole focus of the movie and that there was just as much going on with the other characters.
“FINE! I’LL MAKE MY OWN SLAVERY MOVIE! WITH BLACKJACK!…AND HOOKERS!…ACTUALLY FORGET THE SLAVERY MOVIE!”
He didn't like the N word thing too much as well lol.
Part of it I imagine too is he took a lot of shit for Wild Wild West playing down and taking racism and slavery lightly.
This is a known fact already
I think Will Smith also mentioned to Jamie Foxx in the Oscars Best Actor Roundtable video that he didn't take the role of Django because it wasn't romantic enough and didn't fit into his carefully curated brand as an actor.
@@ajiththomas2465 Will thinking in terms of brand is exactly why he made both the Matrix and Django mistakes. I mean, it's nice that he's so brazenly honest about how calculated he is but at the same time, he's made some real bone head choices sometimes and kept him from taking more risks.
New drinking game Toasties! Take a swig everytime Korey says "and whatnot."
Y'all are the best. That thumbnail is wild 😂
Which era of Black American history would you like to see highlighted?
The Jim Crow era? Mass incarceration?
Black American history IS trauma.
You can’t run from it.
Yeah especially Kanye he's really hard done be they took away his billionaire status now he's just a measly millionaire pffft
@@headshot217 what?!
@@SmartDave60 don't you just hate when the dumbest guy in the comments responds to your comment!?!
It's definitely Oscar bait, almost algorithmic, and had he not slapped Chris, we'd probably see this get a strong consideration campaign during voting.
Yeah, this is one of those movie that someone would parody when theyd think of a formulaic oscarbait. Almost feels like an AI wrote this
The thumbnail is so good it slaps😂
3:52 Martin’s laugh always cracks me up! I love Martin and Billy’s laugh🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀
Talking about the movie, despite the common slavery narrative that almost always comes about as Oscar bait, I was really fascinated by the trailer because of the cinematography. There were a lot of creative and interesting shots and angles that you don't really see in historical biopics like these and you could really tell that Antoine Fuqua put a lot of thought into how this movie looked. I had only really checked out the trailer for Emancipation because of the thumbnail of the Double Toasted video right here and what ultimately clinched my interest besides the interesting cinematography was that it was based on the (in)famous picture of the Slave With Scars On His Back which showed the brutality of slavery. So I'm rather intrigued to see how it all plays out and if it can rise above the norm of slavery narratives.
Name 10 slave movies...
@@IAmAlmightyGod bro loves slaves movie WTFFFF
Why do I feel like the Lady Smith's from Red Table Talk we're saying " HMMMMM.....and YEEEAAHHH while watching this movie. 😭🤣
Chris Rock was absolutely right about Civil Rights/Struggle Movies cause it's a sanitized version and will never showed the actual horrors of The Civil rights movement.
Bro they're not going to even show how we rebelled against slavery there were several rebellions throughout history the way they keep showing these movies that we just sit there and just submit it to being slaves we fought against this we established our own colonies and they never going to show the kings and queens actually fought slavery in Africa and the only movie they going to show about Africa is a tribe who helped the slave trade and gave a revisionist history of it and then you got viola Davis coming out to telling people if you don't support this women picture you don't support women she's full of shit herself
His traumatic relationship to his narcissist wife is probably great for method acting.
Black American men traumatize their wives all the time. Why are we hung up on Jada?
@Suez Contours You must be fun at parties..
@@suezcontours6653 ladies and gentlemen... The Racist 💩💩💩
@suezcontours6653 cool story kid. Why are you hung up on Black American men? Ask Mel Gibson how he treats his wife and have a Snickers.
@@suezcontours6653 yes because no other ethnicity or nationality traumatizes their women. Me Too movement was only started because they were bored
Would love to see a movie about Juneteenth in current times where a guy from the south tries to celebrate it in the northern states and gets told that wasnt a real thing for years till Atlanta does a epsiode and the government makes it a national holiday....
Yo that thumbnail is CRAZY 🤣🤣
If this was the middle of the 2000’s the parody would have been “Not another slave movie” like it’s ofc a part of history we shouldn’t forget but a lot of these movies are just bait.
LOL
@@OldManYellsAtClouds You got an incredibly good taste in youtubers old man! i’ve seen you around here and there
Yeah but no one watches them.
The same people complaining about slave movies are usually the people who have no problem watching shows like the Wire, Snowfall, BMF, Power and a bunch of other stuff that portrays black men as violent, drug dealing, murderous criminals. They pay Curtis" 50 cent" Jackson to produce a new "Hood drama" at least twice a week so obviously people are watching. I find that interesting
@@elijaharvinger1178 the main antagonist in snowfall is a white dude tho so not just angry black men stereotypes but more of the drug environment stereotypical life
That sponser segway was too good lol
I actually want to check this movie out and he does join the fight in the Union Army during the Civil War. So not exactly like 12 years as a slave where you had your standard beat down slave scenes and the white savior at the end coming in to save.
Thank you
There was another movie about black men joining the Union Army, and it was called "Glory".
Literally finished watching it. Movie was great.
My favourite struggle movie is still Amistad. Classic.
And that movie is based on a true story that ended well from the people who actually went back to Africa and spoke African languages this is one thing a lot of people don't realize that when the first slaves came to this country they did not speak English at all or do they worship this religion that has brainwashed our culture for decades the most ironic part we are worshiping the religion that are slave owners brainwash are ancestors with
This is basically what Will Smith wanted Django Unchained to be...
Korey had the perfect setup for a "Hello Fresh Prince" joke. So close!
Yeah the same thing can be said about the movie 300, basically action supposedly historical fanfic.
'You got your mind fixed now Luke?
Shakin' that bush boss!
Shakin' that bush!'
Oh my goodness, the thumbnail🤣
Did they ever discuss the movie "Goodbye Uncle Tom"? It's something to see. Look up the trailer. It's disturbing, bonkers and impressive all at once.
That movie is the thing of nightmares and impressive at the same time.
@@jamesway yeah. I watched the first 20 mins or so the other day on youtube. It's wild. The movie is made as if movies existed in that time period. The plantation owners straight up discuss the fact that there are documentarians there. It's played completely straight too. It's fascinating for many, many reasons. I don't think many people know about it, but it's worth checking out. The imagery is completely realistic- for better or worse.
I'm going to see this film because of Will and btw, that Thumbnail had me hollering 🤣😂🤣 You guys are the best!
I think Will could genuinely be touched by thee story.. I also think this is his Django redemption. Lol. If in remembering correctly he'd turned that role down, before Jamie Foxx stepped into it.. & I'm sure Will wanted to smack himself when he saw how well it did.. So it could also be like this is him recreating that opportunity for himself.
Well like his matrix/wild Wild West mistake, good luck with that!!
I think Will Smith also mentioned to Jamie Foxx in the Oscars Best Actor Roundtable video that he didn't take the role of Django because it wasn't romantic enough and didn't fit into his carefully curated brand as an actor.
Gator: “Hello Fresh Prince!”😂
A black man fighting against all odds to return to his family. A true story about a strong, powerful, protective, black father figure is rare. Django really?!
I remember finding out about that picture when I went to college, and now all these years later they are making a movie about it.
The thumbnail 😂😂😂
That thumbnail literally made me spit out my coffee, lol.🤣😂🤣
I watched this movie last night. I didn't know the movie was directed by the guy who did Training Day
Really? Hmmm
Jo jo. Am I the only one that thought the thumbnail was will staring in a jo jo bizzare adventure film for a second as third jo jo.
27:37 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 at Korey after Julian gives it BTS. 🤣🤣🤣
Man I thought Korey would say "Hello Fresh Prince". lol
Will Smith needs to make movies like this. To pay Chris and his Slap lawyers their money 💵💵💵
What Lawyers 😂😂😂😂
Chris isn’t pressing charges so your comment makes no sense 🤣
@@Cody-to9kn it doesn't at all
@@The-Endo-SymArmor they’re talking out their ass
@@shayburton4104 agreed
This is our history!! You do our ancestors a disservice by saying no "slave movies!" Theyre taking this out of schools, people! The young need to learn. That being said..this movie was amazing. Featured a black man, Will and directed by a black man, Antone! Its the story of survival where he escapes and fights back! Very inspiring on how we as a people can endure the worst and make it through
And written by a white man
I loved this film! It was really great learning about my ancestor Peter. Not sure about this last name. Excellent movie! Loved it!
That thumbnail tho 🤣
This thumbnail got me in tears dawg lmao 😂😂😂
Quentin Tarantino tried getting Will Smith to play Django, so at least we get to see Will Smith take out some slave owners.
I was over the Slave movie trend long ago. How about more black family and black love
Tyler Perry has you covered! Enjoy!
@@wilcee238wrong director try again
@@wilcee238 I said family and love not minstrel shows
@@wilcee238 this took me out bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pick one.. Love and basketball 🏀.. Love Jones.... Etc etc etc
lmao dat thumbnail
Alligator be like :” Hello Fresh Prince. “ 🐊
8:01 I had to comeback here for this
Korey is talented! My favorite channel! And Martin is great too!
I know what’s fresher than catching the fresh Prince out of water? Hello fresh
Nahhhh that Hello Fresh segue was top tier lmao.
Man, who would have guessed we would get the gritty Wild Wild West prequel
Will, in the movie, gets pistol whipped from behind... right away, I thought of Christ Rock.
Question: Are we ever going get a movie on Mansa Musa? Just Asking...
I'm sure Nollywood makes those. I wonder whats the politics involved with Black American actors and Nollywood never linking up.
@@Stanlayy-em4fk That's a good question 🤔
It would be a touchy thing. A lot of his wealth came from the slave trade. They'd either cover that up completely or sugar coat it. You wouldn't be permitted to celebrate an important African while admitting that they were as enthusiastic about slavery as anyone else. 🤷♂️ His story IS worth telling though.
This was filmed way before the slap.
For your next Bad Movies Reviews, can you please review Judge Dredd 1995 with Sylvester Stallone 🙏🏾
Plus one of the big criticisms the Oscars have faced is only recognizing historic dramas, and not recognizing other films, like comedies, horror, or sci-fi.
Never Forget! Why are these called struggle films? These are courage and survival films.
The transition to Hello Fresh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If Will Smith wanted a massively successful return he should have done Hitch 2 , slave/struggle movies are no long made for the masses it’s to win a Oscar’s
The film was made months before the oscars this year, so this movie was going to be released no matter what.
@@josephzimba681 correct.
Africans thought the ships got lost and a couple returned and explained weird phenomenon that caused the ships to scatter and get lost. It's theorized this was probably the Bermuda triangle which has a lot of sailing hazards. Centuries later a prince or king sent double the amount of ships to find them. And he himself went, his thought was that they were strong people so they must've survived. It's said they arrived in South America and the natives bowed to them when they saw all the gold and accessories that were the same they had kept from when they first arrived.
English scholars also knew that the spears of many of the natives in the Caribbean and South America were the same as the African ones.
Killed me with the Hello Fresh plug transition
"Will's comeback film" the fuck he coming back from? He didn't go anywhere! We didn't LET HIM leave! We've been memeing him to death all year.
I’m sorry y’all but I cannot watch these kind of movies and not get angry. What is wrong with my people when they can whoop our ass, and then they need some help and we jumped right in line to help out. Knowing how later they segregated our asses and lynched us it just pisses me off more. I’m going to go have to watch Django to just shake this off.
And Guys I absolutely love your show! Everything about it and keep it up!
100% agree about these suffering movies.
Glad to hear that Smith is showing a side of acting that's not "Will Smith with a different character name".
After 12 Years A Slave, I don't need any more slave movies for a very long time. Will Smith took this role just for his redemption comeback, that's cynical, but exploitive.
You're absolutely right
Good thing the world doesn’t revolve around you lady.
He took this role before the slap
Movie been done bro. Way before the slap
@@GL_FAB My bad then. Respect.
Regardless of the film's outcome, it's a decent, even if rough around the edges comeback.
I watched the movie and it was boring.
Clicked on this as “parents don’t understand” plays on the radio
This movie feels like something the Atlanta TV show would make fun of. Top black actor fucked up, has to do a slave movie lol
Exactly what I thought... Even the Boondocks would have ripped on this
I've revised my opinion on Will Smith and the Oscars. They banned him from attending the Oscars. I think he should be allowed to come, but he has to have the worst seat in the house. Way way up in the upper balcony, back row. That way if he gets really mad at a joke, he's gotta get up, say "pardon me, excuse me" as he squeezes his way past people walk down three floors and then get to the stage. That way he has time to think. And the person who insulted him has probably finished presenting and left.
This thumbnail is crazy lol
Genius thumbnail 😅🤣
Thought it was a powerful movie. Loved it. Not usually a fan of black and white movies but I was glued to the screen. Couldn’t even get up to pee.
Them Dawgs played their roles
I personally don't mind the "Oscar Bait Slave movie", it's good to know the history of course. However, the actors in it I HAVE to detach myself because at the end of the day, here's a man going home to his multimillion dollar mansion with help and assistants of his own lol.
I think it's more important to make "struggle" movies focusing on the NOW. Not the THEN. With unknown faces, REAL relatable people, with struggles of the NOW. To make a bigger impact. So that the acceptance speech isn't about the actor, but about us and current struggles for POC
Django was the last slave movie I can watch . Unless you are going to put a twist on it like that movie don’t bother .
The issue I have with the movie is the lack of strong conversational dialog. There's too many scenes that felt monologued. Still a movie worth watching.
Missed a chance to say “Hello Fresh Prince!”
People aren’t born psychotic. A power dynamic as ugly as slavery creates half a society that is drunk on that power. Equality sobers the way we treat each other.
Bruh who made that thumbnail 😂😂😂😂
Is it a Hollywood tradition to have at least one slave movie per year? WTF??? I’m surprised it didn’t drop back in February. Struggle films should be a new genre which I’m also conflicted with.
How many Holocaust movies are out there? Quit crying
Slavery is a part of American History weather people want to acknowledge it or not.
@@wilcee238 exactly
27:39 respect to Julian…cause I’m with Korey 😂 pretty much a low matinee for me
thanks Korey 💯 correct, positive influence in media much needed, we knew how f up things were already~
How is this a negative portrayal?