Dude, remember when Dave would stay home try to direct and host from like Zoom? Dave had this one Momo with that terrible fake radio voice that would literally wear a mask during the interviews.. just appalling professionalism.. Soo much better now, good call!
Agree 100%! Dave knows and understands this shit better than other! Plus he is not afraid to say the truth as it is like others try remaining politically correct.
I'll tell u why Derrick won. It was very close... going with Derrick is better for the sport. With him winning, the IFBB have their new Jay Cutler. He looks incredible..he is professional..he speaks well..and most of all, he is extremely marketable. They needed a poster boy..a poster boy who can string together a series of consecutive wins. It was so close that they could award him the title to fill this role and it wouldn't be seen as a robbery.
So you’re basically saying Derek didn’t win because he had the better physique, he won because of the IFBB had their own agenda with bodybuilding: politics…..Got it
Great insight and analysis!!!!!!!!! I think you nailed the minutia behind the scenes. If it was a bench press, you just racked 450. If it was the Suzanne Summers Thigh Master, you just completed 100,000 non stop reps. And your inner thighs still aren't tired. If it was a set of donkey calf raises, you just performed 100 reps with a horse on your back. If it was a glute shot, you just displayed striated glutes ripped to shreds. If it was a proven shake, you just added 10 massive scoops of creatine. If your analysis was a chapter in the Bible, it would be Genesis 3:1. If it was a sun spot, it was a Corona Mass Ejection, spot on. Now let us pray 🙏 for more indepth insights from you. Thanks. And ❤️ CONGRATULATIONS.
You must be referring to the fans of a 2 year old who stomped off stage like a little bitch that didn’t get his way. Hadi and his fans are truly a Class Act- NOT!
Samir makes total sense/ listen and respect someone who was the conditioning king of cuts and shape and won the 1983 Mr Olympia! Hadi was not off! He was in his best shape!
The only thing that Hadi fell short in was his back his lower lats looked to be wet with minimal separation. Derek's back was better than Hadi.. with that said Derek's front double bi looked a little small and His abs were lacking. I thought Hadi brought the overall package..
Derek has the far better vacuum and the hamstrings/glutes. Thats a very big score people dont look at nearly enough. The hamstring are just as important as everywhere else and actually is looking to be the make or break. Peeled chest means nothing compared to peeled hammies and glutes
Derek's side shots were way better. His triceps shot and his side chest were superior if you're looking at the entire physique. Dere's thighs, hamstrings, and glutes were much better than Hadi's from the side.
@@calakidukiyes been when it becomes to being a ambassador for the sport let’s face it Derek is more marketable and likable Hadi looked insane and still the best body builder in the world imo,
It’s obvious the IFBB had a Hadi AI Bot Farm from the Middle East attack all these threads. I can’t wait for the AI Bots to start defending Hadi acting like a 2 year old who lost their bottle. What an embarrassment Hadi is for the IFBB and the bodybuilding world.
Derek won back poses and side poses with better definition, muscle insertions, and conditioning. Better back, lats, glutes, hams, and calves. Hadi won front with better conditioning, chest, quad, ab striations. Derek more symetrical and narrower waste. Narrow victory.
Derek had soft, watery, pigeon chest & average abs. I’m surprised he didn’t finish 3rd Hadi had way bigger, denser, striated chest , abs , obliques , quads.
also those huge injection bumps on his lats , so we gone from monsters like Coleman and Jay Cutler to watery 5'2 ex 212 clowns? no surprise pro bodybuilding is dead..
hadi had much better bicep peaks too. His arms have improved a lot. Derek had better triceps, but not much detail or separation in the double bicep pose. Some people saying it looked as if he had Synthol shots in some body parts. Not sure if it's true or nonsense.
But Hadi didn't just walk off stage! He shaked Derek's hand, hugged him, posed for the picture, then left. Walking off stage as a sore loser is walking off as soon as they announce the winner. Since when is shaking the hand and hugging the guy that defeated you a sore loser? Ef posing for thousands of pictures etc. after you lose....forget all that.
@@connoranderson7336 - Because he was upset. This is not the only time he's been jerked around. Hadi should've won two, maybe three times already. He looked better than Rami and Brandon in past shows. A man can only take so much.
Loved this interview. Reduced the politics, and verified what the fans were thinking. When you're a fan, it's nice to see, experience, and understand the sport you follow. So, hearing unbiased opinions helps connect with the sport. Great content, Dave!
This is exactly why there NEEDS to be more transparency in the judging. It's the only sport in the world where we have no idea what points were given for what. The sport can never be taken seriously until this is fixed. It's unbelievable that in 2023 the sport is still at a state where nobody has any idea why the judges chose the person they did. Show where the points went to!!!
I was rooting for Derek and wanted to see him win. But I gotta call it how it is the judges gifted Derek a win. Derek was visibly fading and looked extremely smooth for the front.
I haven't watched much of this before, but from the small clips I saw - Derek's front double bicep was far superior. His abs were symmetrical (the other two weren't). His legs looked superior. This was emphasized more by the fact that they were so huge proportionally to his tiny waste. His back was equal to Hadi. Am I wrong? I only saw the poses from the side, back, and front double bicep - but I would've chosen Derek as the winner. The only difference really was the height. If Derek was as tall as Hadi - it would be a no-contest for me.
@@NOTLKU86 yeah thats emotions my man. Look when you are at your home with your wife or family and the heat goes on sometimes, you make the same decision like hadi and go away or say something Bad thats normal. Bodybuilders are on very high Testosteron you know😃😃he can be burned the stage or something else🤣
Arnold once said, “it’s about size, proportion, the whole thing. Like a sculptor who slaps on some clay and says I need a little bit more deltoids to make the proportions right.” Yes, I do agree that Hadi should have won simply because Derek’s muscles are too young and smooth, very similar to how Big Ramy was in his early years. Yes Hadi was off with his hamstrings but so was Derek’s hams and slightly with his quads for Hadi and his triceps looked too small from the front but his muscle quality was 5 times greater literally than Derek’s smooth puffy like muscles. Finally as for size, both evenly matched other than Derek’s side triceps bigger and Hadi’s shoulders was bigger than Derek’s which I think deserves more points than triceps and I definitely did not like how when they called for the abs and thigh pose instead of flexing the abs Derek did a vacuum pose.
Hadi won from the front, Derek won from the back but I think Derek’s physique overall is why he won. Insane taper and shape. I think the judges this year made a point to say they are looking for a more pleasing physique. You could honestly go either way with the top 2 this year
Oliva is right 100%. Hadi was not off to lose. In order to dethrone a champ you got to be way better. Derek was as good as Nasser in 1997 but Yates still remained the champ. Coleman was a bit off in 2001 while Cutler was tremendous, but it did not make Cutler to win that year. Tonight Hadi was not off at all, but Derek won. Come on people! They robbed him tonight second fucking time!
Soft back, and loose skin wrinkles in the prejduging photos. Hadi use to look better when he placed lower. He hsd gained way too much mass. Too many people want to give him the win because he has shredded obliques. However his waist is too wide now.
@@nickz6143 DEREK was soft on chest shoulders, he has the lumps of injection on his lats. that make him look very shitty and suspicous. check his front double biceps.
The criteria and judging standards have evolved over the last 25 years - different crew in charge now and they don't play the same dynastic politics. They know the title is better served provoking fan interest and controversy with it switching hands so often. You no longer have to "knock out the champ" - the champ just has to come "off" compared to their previous "best" and it's game over for them eg - Phil, Brandon, Ramy and now Hadi
@@carvedouttastonepolitics is exactly why Derek won tho. They needed a “Jay cutler” type of persona to keep the sport alive since hadi and rami didn’t have English as a language.
But they stole Hadi’s mr olympia when he became 4th and 3rd. He had the edge this year and this is the 3rd time. Big respect to Derek (he is an animal) but Hadi was better.
@@1armeddrummerinaprisonrock244 I don’t tend to argue with you here because I know you have eyes and logic as a human. I refer u to a bunch of videos that compared them pose by pose. Though good that u r a legit fan.
I don’t care what the judges say .. They made a mistake going with a short blocky waist Mr. O.. Samson Duada’s V Physique will always be the standard to achieve. Period.
i wanted derek to win, but after seing Ryan Terry win in mens physique I thought it was over for Derek, crearly they were rewarding hardness and condition, but i guess not? I actually thought the only poses where Derek wasnt losing were the back poses, every front pose was: Worst quads/sweep out of the 3, Worst abs development out of the 3, Worst Chest out of the 3.
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@@slowjamcdubif it's about the glutes then why Samson won in arnold against nick? It's everything shape size symmetry balance of upper and lower body plus the biggest factor is eye pleasing if Derek was more eye pleasing compared to hadi then he wins that's all
@@bobbobb5759 call it what ya wanna call it , will always be a circus that can’t even set a standard for what judges are looking for , Derek had weak points Hadi didn’t, hadi did enough to easily win again
It has nothing more to bring to the stage, he should have been 7th or 8th with that condition. But it seems that he can go away like while being 4 weeks off.
I love Derek's physique with all my soul, but this year they stole this trophy from Hadi. This year Hadi really was better. Bigger, drier, more conditioned. By a hair but better. It's due to political situation.
Hadi was bigger but not drier! his condition looked same as last year and that wasnt his best condition, he only got bigger. Derek was way better from the back!
😂😂😂 good lord people. If you truly believe that, please answer me this. Hadi barely beat Derek last year, Hadi was better last year than this year, the waist has gotten bigger, and Derrk has MASSIVELY improved from a year ago.... How would Hadi win that? I'm not arguing that Hadi was harder and more ripped from the front than Derek but he was more conditioned last year. Derek also had tighter glutes and hammies! If you want to say you thought Hadi won, sure I completely disagree with you but definitely wouldn't be a blasphemous argument, but saying Hadi got robbed? Nah.... That's blasphemous!
@@matthewpinson4208 Hadi was better this year than last year. There's already side by side comparison videos up to show it. His conditioning was better this year.
@@matthewpinson4208 He barely won due to this filthy dirty corrupt sport being so dishonest. It’s rigged mate, and naive gullible fans will never see this. This is the same as the real world, most people who vote have no idea how corrupt and organised this world we live in is. If you vote then you have no reason to complain and you also have blood on your hands
@@minoritymind interesting, almost every former pro and YT'ers I watched who picked Hadi said he was holding water in his back and I noticed the second he walked on stage his glutes were nonexistent by his usual standards. I don't see any way he was better than last year. I'll do some more digging and look into what you said. 🫡
They have their poster boy now. I knew if it was even remotely justified that they would give him the nod. Just look at how they gifted him 2nd laat year.
Hadi is far superior. Derek still has a lot of catching up to do, if he even does it. However they gave him the title. I thought Samson should've been 2nd
They went with shape, really, his legs are poor, not much sweep, lost them in pre judging, average at best, his arms are poor, no peak, soft from the front, chest not as good as samson or hadi, really soft, his abs are poor, lost them in judging so was hitting vaccum instead of abs and thighs, worst champ ever
@@alpine1609why are complaining about a vacuum he has abs. The fact that a guy in open can even hit a vacuum being such a mass monster is nothing short of impressive
Hadi should of won. I was shocked how big he was this year while also keeping his hardness and conditioning. Sure, Derick improved some today but Hadi is the reigning Mr Olympia so it should take someone who is definitely superior to dethrone him. Not just someone who people say " oh look how impressive he is". Everybody is impressive on that stage for crying out loud.
This is the most useless comment. "Someone who people say oh look how impressive he is" is not why he won. The judges had a close competition and Derek edged Hadi out for a multitude of reasons, but not by a longshot. How about commenting on some specifics mate.
Derek won back poses and side poses with better definition, muscle insertions, and conditioning. Better back, lats, glutes, hams, and calves. Hadi won front with better conditioning, chest, quad, ab striations. Derek more symetrical and narrower waste. Narrow victory.
You’re doing a great job “for crying out loud”, for a previous Mr.O who acted like a bitch and stomped off stage like a 2year old who didn’t get his way. The IFBB should be embarrassed.
Hadi was the most complete with the densest muscle and the crazy ab/thigh and MM. Won the front shots and at least 4 mandatory overall. No way Lunsford wrestled this away from the Champ.
@@Egolifter42069 I like Derek I just think Hadi did enough and was stuffed by the judges. Way better structure is going overboard. Hadi looks denser and stronger with a more aesthetic set of abs, obliques and serratus muscles. Derek is slightly wider and slimmer at the waist.
also the SEO inflated lats, so we have gone from monsters like Coleman and Jay Cutler to watery 5'2 ex 212 clowns? no surprise pro bodybuilding is dead..Hadi was robbed due to politics, with the israel war and organisers being pro israel they would never put the belt on hadi
Hadi had the better physique with less weaknesses than Derek .... BUT ... Hadi doesnt offer anything to the Olympia brand. He won last year and then totally disapeared. The Olympia is a business and needs an ambassador who will promote the business. THATS A FACT.
people have been saying that since at least Yates 30 years ago, he would win and disappear until next Olympia how exactly do you expect guys to promote this? most people don't want to look like a pro bodybuilder, let alone people no longer being ignorant as to what they are doing to look that way...
@MikeG82 Dorian brought a new market to the uk, Kevin levrone said that Joe weider told him that Dorian being from the uk brings a new market, I guess hadi does too being from Iran? I don't even know anymore
Regarding moving forward off the line... just have a camera focused on their feet, and if they cross the line, then they will lose a placing for that individual pose... so if they were graded as 1st, then the after the grading has been done, the camera would be checked, and if they were judged as position 1 for the back lat spread, then they will move down to 2nd... and so on for every pose... you don't need to disqualify the competitors for moving across the lines... just ding them a position for that pose, regardless if it's a unanimous decision by the judges... because stepping closer to the judges is an unfair advantage and it has to be controlled... and by scaring contestants with lose of a position is a big enough deterant... So if you're in the top 3 call out... and the judges grade you as 3rd... but you've stepped in front of the line... then the person that's in the 2nd call out that would have been judged 4th by the judges, can move up to 3rd for that pose... got it ??? good :)
Clearly all of the guys who know bodybuilding including myself had Hadi choopan clearly winning the show. He absolutely smoked Derek from the front. He also won rear lat spread. Derrick must have learned how to take his shots right before the show just like Big Rami because he had a huge welts on the top of his glutes towards the outside. The judges had him beating hottie in prejudging and there's no f******way on Earth that happened. Nick Walker in the condition he was in 5 days before the show would have absolutely smoked all of them. But the only one who would have even give him a battle would have been Hardy. Derek has teeny weeny little legs from the front just like always. He has no abdominals that's why he does a vacuum in all his front poses including ab and quad. He has no chest and no shoulders and a torn bicep on the right arm. I am not a hottie Choopan fan or hater but he definitely won. Dave you need to know your bodybuilding history a little bit more. Samir changed our sport. The quads and back and conditioning was that a level we had never seen before. He ushered in the big quads into bodybuilding as we know it today.
He wasn’t robbed, the condition wasn’t miles apart, but the fullness of Derrick was the decision maker there. Also what I will say is moving forwards, Derrick is a better ambassador for the sport. He is always polite, happy to talk to people, he will be doing everything he can to promote. Hadi and ramy were not what the sport needs. Samson, Andrew, nick they will all take the sport to new levels like Chris bumstead has done
@@NyashaMwhat do you think Arnold was to the sport? He wasn’t always the best bodybuilder on stage. As a champion you are the brand ambassador and it’s very important to promote and bring more eyes. So yeah it was always important since the 70s.
Would you deliberately piss off a judge in a court of law? There are always repercussions to one's behavior, right or wrong. From a judge or organizers stand point, if he doesn't respect our 2nd place medal and can't be mature, then why should we even invite him. This is their subliminal thought process if nothing else... Right or wrong you don't f*** with the hand that feeds you
I don't even really love Hadi as a guy. But he should have won imo. It's politics. He hasn't been a great bodybuilding ambassador for the Olympia and Derek will be a much better fit.
It's funny that you hear all these comments. But you didn't hear any comments like this in the 1980. Mister olympus when arnold schwarzenegger won and everybody got screwed
Great coverage by the entire RX team during this show and it's so great to see Dave on location again. This is what made me fall in love with this channel over a decade ago.
Best taper… best back & proportions similar size to Hadi made the most progress out of the rest & Hadi essentially looked not much different then last year. If you think Hadi & Samson have a better back double Bi you got to be silly
Im a sociologist and i have to say this behaviors some competitors do in all competitions : WHEN U SHOW DISATISFACTION OF THE RESULT , YOU ARE CAUSING ALOT OF FANS TO BECOME MORE VOCAL , THEY EXAGGERATE YOU AND BLAME THE JUDGES ! this will eventually MANIPULATE the judges decisions the next competitions ! This is extremely practical and effective and ive seen many competitors that use this MANIPULATION TECHNIC and NOW the most important part : IF OTHER COMPETITORS OF 2024 MR OLYMPIA WANT A "FAIR DECISION" FOR ALL COMPETITORS , THEY HAVE TO START "CANCELLING" WHOEVER USE THIS MANIPULATION TECHNIC , BY BASHING AND ADDRESSING THE DISRESPECT TO THE COMPETITION TO PREVENT THE 2024 JUDGES DECISION MANIPULATIONS! When ever a competitor use such manipulation technic , everybody who care about the faireness of the competition must turn the competitor into a CLOWN ! All competitors and infliencers should do this !
So cool all these guys from earlier bb times discussing about the new winner, all with their own opinion and still all on such fire for bodybuilding! Love it😍 thanks for this video....
Would love to see you say this to Steve W's face. So brave behind your keyboard mate. You know it's an idiot comment and massively whiney / disrespectful. Are we in kindergarten?
Hadi didn't take 2nd because of politics. Hadi took 2nd because Derek earned 1st with his back, legs and especially glutes development, with his massive gains and improvement since last year, and because Hadi thought he could make up for his lack of gains with dehydration on the stage. Derek earned that first place win, Hadi got the best position available for him in light of all that. If it were about politics Hadi might have taken 4th or lower, if he was allowed to show up at all. After his spectacle, I hope he isn't invited next year. 🤷♂️
Instead of having a line on the stage they should have a raised platform so you cannot step forward without stepping up onto the raised platform. It'd only have to be 6 inches high, it wouldn't hide anything other than their feet and it would stop people stepping forward
Samsons sweating was worse than Hunter Labrada, I didn’t even think that was possible. Seriously, he was dripping everywhere on stage. Also, Samson was a bit watery too. But still improved.
samson was better conditioned at the arnold. although the arnold wasnt amazing condition. he only improved his back! he needs to switch to a coach who actually cares for condition. not milos.
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Hadi definitely did enough to win. He was hard as nails especially in all the front shots compared to Derek. Another disappointing decision at the “biggest” bodybuilding show in the world.
BINGO! The whole world got to see how a previous Mr. O winner acts when he didn’t get his way. Hadi acted like a little bitch! What an embarrassment for the IFBB.
Huh? This was his worst showing since turning pro, he had fat rolls all over the place with the smoothest glutes and hamstrings since Nasser lol, and his routine was really nothing to write home about either. I don't think he deserved 5th at all, maybe 6th at best.
Wow...this should go into Palumbo and Acetos BB hall of fame museum playing on loop. Most Legendary Olympia Debate. Look at the names here! All majorly old school guys and a Jr from the same school.
You’re sorry for a man who handles defeat like a 2 year old when something doesn’t go his way? Hadi showed the whole world how an IFBB previous Mr. O acts when they don’t get their way. What an embarrassment for the IFBB and the bodybuilder community.
@@OfficeLinebacker-FJB yeah he did wrong ... He shouldn't had to do that .. like Derek respected you last year , you should did the same... But the decision was so biased .. he was so deserving than derek ...
I agree... Hadi should of won. In order to beat the champ, u have to come in completely dialed in... if it was that close, it should of went to Hadi. Derek was amazing though. Samson & andrew are coming if they improve there conditioning.. either way, it was a great show. Much respect to all the athletes for putting there bodies & minds through hell
Milo’s is contradicting himself by saying at this level they nitpick the little details but then says “it’s not a striated glute contest, it’s not a diet contest, it’s not a anything that is nitpicked about my athlete contest”
Aceto and Milos analysis all day yes please!!! Like Levrone said to Dave in an old interview he said Joe Weider told him the best doesn't always win, it's what's best for the sport.
You see, Mr. Olympia is for the athletes from all over the world. If the judges have to be biased towards people from their country only, then should restrict the contest to USA only. Contestants work hard and go through a lot to make it to USA to attend the contest but still this is disrespect to the deserving athletes not to be given the fair placing..
Hadi didn't take 2nd because of geopolitics. Hadi took 2nd because Derek earned 1st with his back, legs and especially glutes development, with his massive gains and improvement since last year, and because Hadi thought he could make up for his lack of gains with dehydration on the stage. Derek earned that first place win, Hadi got the best position available for him in light of all that. If it were about politics Hadi might have taken 4th or lower, if he was allowed to show up at all. After his spectacle, I hope he isn't invited next year. 🤷♂️
It takes time, commitment as you have to do other shows too It's the same reason there is only one ex-UFC fighter who refs. Btw, I think all judges are ex bodybuilders. The pro label doesn't mean guys like Aceto or Dave know less.
@vlada their has been more than enough time for the judging to change. I totally agree with the term "pros it would be best to have former Mr.Os and Arnold classic champions
That’s what happens at Subjective sports just like in boxing last time between Francis and fury , results may come down to how few people called jury feel
I feel the same. Ramy got the same treatment but Hadi did the exact thing. You cant be a Olympia champ and not be constantly pumping out media. Im a huge fan of derek but we wont win next year.
Hadi definitely the winner. And he walked off AFTER congratulating DL and taking photos for like 10 minutes. HC was sad and had enough. It's NOT disrespectful IMO.
The size of guys now isnt even comparable. 30 years ago they wouldn’t even be able to beat some of the physique guys now. Drugs and nutrition have made a big impact.
Happy Dave is back doing the Olympia interviews/coverage , his enthusiasm and energy is unmatched, nobody is better! Welcome back Dave 💪
Dude, remember when Dave would stay home try to direct and host from like Zoom? Dave had this one Momo with that terrible fake radio voice that would literally wear a mask during the interviews.. just appalling professionalism.. Soo much better now, good call!
Yup, Dave's in his element.
Agree 100%! Dave knows and understands this shit better than other! Plus he is not afraid to say the truth as it is like others try remaining politically correct.
Didn't Dave get banned from the Olympia for years? Lol
True Derek the short dwarf did not deserve to win
I'll tell u why Derrick won. It was very close... going with Derrick is better for the sport. With him winning, the IFBB have their new Jay Cutler. He looks incredible..he is professional..he speaks well..and most of all, he is extremely marketable. They needed a poster boy..a poster boy who can string together a series of consecutive wins. It was so close that they could award him the title to fill this role and it wouldn't be seen as a robbery.
He most definitely won from the back.
One more thing to add is Derek is younger too so their can be a dynasty olympia winner in Derek.
So you’re basically saying Derek didn’t win because he had the better physique, he won because of the IFBB had their own agenda with bodybuilding: politics…..Got it
@@HaroonKhan-ov4ruthese people are the part of currupt IFBB
Great insight and analysis!!!!!!!!!
I think you nailed the minutia behind the scenes.
If it was a bench press, you just racked 450.
If it was the Suzanne Summers Thigh Master, you just completed 100,000 non stop reps. And your inner thighs still aren't tired. If it was a set of donkey calf raises, you just performed 100 reps with a horse on your back. If it was a glute shot, you just displayed striated glutes ripped to shreds. If it was a proven shake, you just added 10 massive scoops of creatine. If your analysis was a chapter in the Bible, it would be Genesis 3:1. If it was a sun spot, it was a Corona Mass Ejection, spot on.
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Thanks. And ❤️ CONGRATULATIONS.
Dave needs to be at EVERY Olympia. It’s not the same without him. You can see He’s having a blast.
Dave is actually the funniest guy and full of energy for his age lol
Each year I look forward to the RX wrap up almost as much as the Olympia itself - you guys always deliver and give us a great show 👏🏽
Everyone looks pissed frustrated with the results 😮
Thats what i see too. Its funny though 🤣
@@Habeev07no too soft
You must be referring to the fans of a 2 year old who stomped off stage like a little bitch that didn’t get his way. Hadi and his fans are truly a Class Act- NOT!
NO CLASS FANS ARE
@randomusername11 these are Olympia winners and Winning coaches.
hadi is closer to derek from the back, than derek is to hadi from the front
What about the shape of Derek and Hadi? common man, it can go either way.
True
Literally the opposite
Delts from hadi were awfull, he deffo injects
Lundsford with those weirdly bulbous lats from the front o_O! OK then, lol.#elephantintheroom
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Samir makes total sense/ listen and respect someone who was the conditioning king of cuts and shape and won the 1983 Mr Olympia! Hadi was not off! He was in his best shape!
This was the death of the open division. There are basically two 212 Mr Olympias now. There needs to be a tall and a short division.
The only thing that Hadi fell short in was his back his lower lats looked to be wet with minimal separation. Derek's back was better than Hadi.. with that said Derek's front double bi looked a little small and His abs were lacking. I thought Hadi brought the overall package..
Ok with the abs but Derecks front double, with that superb structure, is in my eyes the best of all, and second Hadi.
Dereck's chest, abs and quads were the worse of the top 3 and he won 😅😭🤣 Madness.
Yeah, but Derek entire front was flat. Legs smaller less defined. While back was close with Hadi 's spread better.
Derek has the far better vacuum and the hamstrings/glutes. Thats a very big score people dont look at nearly enough. The hamstring are just as important as everywhere else and actually is looking to be the make or break. Peeled chest means nothing compared to peeled hammies and glutes
Derek's side shots were way better. His triceps shot and his side chest were superior if you're looking at the entire physique. Dere's thighs, hamstrings, and glutes were much better than Hadi's from the side.
Welcome to IFBB where popularity is more important than their actual physiques
I mean Derek has 1 million followers and Hadi has nearly 6 million so that doesn’t make a lot of sense
@@calakidukiyes been when it becomes to being a ambassador for the sport let’s face it Derek is more marketable and likable
Hadi looked insane and still the best body builder in the world imo,
It’s obvious the IFBB had a Hadi AI Bot Farm from the Middle East attack all these threads. I can’t wait for the AI Bots to start defending Hadi acting like a 2 year old who lost their bottle. What an embarrassment Hadi is for the IFBB and the bodybuilding world.
Derek won back poses and side poses with better definition, muscle insertions, and conditioning. Better back, lats, glutes, hams, and calves. Hadi won front with better conditioning, chest, quad, ab striations. Derek more symetrical and narrower waste. Narrow victory.
Its about the money and being good at promoting the sport. Had does nothing.
Derek had soft, watery, pigeon chest & average abs. I’m surprised he didn’t finish 3rd
Hadi had way bigger, denser, striated chest , abs , obliques , quads.
Agreed, shld be 3rd
And small arms
also those huge injection bumps on his lats , so we gone from monsters like Coleman and Jay Cutler to watery 5'2 ex 212 clowns? no surprise pro bodybuilding is dead..
He won the show from the back as soon as he turned around it was game over plus he had the best X frame from the front
hadi had much better bicep peaks too. His arms have improved a lot.
Derek had better triceps, but not much detail or separation in the double bicep pose. Some people saying it looked as if he had Synthol shots in some body parts. Not sure if it's true or nonsense.
This type of Wrap up has been sorely missed
Love the passion of these ex-competitors. Gotta love Milos.
They should get their own awards honestly, straight passion
“So it’s called the mr onion skin competition?” 😂😂
these guys try too hard
@@williamrogers358 Hahaha, that was a hilarious exchange with Samir and Milos.
@@Gladiator1972 Better to try too hard than not hard enough❓
But Hadi didn't just walk off stage! He shaked Derek's hand, hugged him, posed for the picture, then left. Walking off stage as a sore loser is walking off as soon as they announce the winner. Since when is shaking the hand and hugging the guy that defeated you a sore loser? Ef posing for thousands of pictures etc. after you lose....forget all that.
If you do all that then why can't you stay on stage?
Useless comment.
The Persian chihuahua
@@connoranderson7336 - Because he was upset. This is not the only time he's been jerked around. Hadi should've won two, maybe three times already. He looked better than Rami and Brandon in past shows. A man can only take so much.
@@jasonito23 Leaving when you are upset is the definition of a bad sport lad
Loved this interview. Reduced the politics, and verified what the fans were thinking. When you're a fan, it's nice to see, experience, and understand the sport you follow. So, hearing unbiased opinions helps connect with the sport.
Great content, Dave!
This is exactly why there NEEDS to be more transparency in the judging. It's the only sport in the world where we have no idea what points were given for what. The sport can never be taken seriously until this is fixed. It's unbelievable that in 2023 the sport is still at a state where nobody has any idea why the judges chose the person they did. Show where the points went to!!!
They did in 2004 and it was a disaster
@@rockman7427 Why was it a disaster letting people know how they came to the decision they did?
I was rooting for Derek and wanted to see him win. But I gotta call it how it is the judges gifted Derek a win. Derek was visibly fading and looked extremely smooth for the front.
Derek's front was softer than a baby's ass.
Completely Agree!
I haven't watched much of this before, but from the small clips I saw - Derek's front double bicep was far superior. His abs were symmetrical (the other two weren't). His legs looked superior. This was emphasized more by the fact that they were so huge proportionally to his tiny waste. His back was equal to Hadi. Am I wrong? I only saw the poses from the side, back, and front double bicep - but I would've chosen Derek as the winner. The only difference really was the height. If Derek was as tall as Hadi - it would be a no-contest for me.
Hadi congratulated Derek and swiftly left the stage.
What a sh*thouse. No chance he wins again
Hadi was the best, derek only in back Pose sensationell
Idk y they said Hadi was disrespectful
@@NOTLKU86 yeah thats emotions my man. Look when you are at your home with your wife or family and the heat goes on sometimes, you make the same decision like hadi and go away or say something Bad thats normal. Bodybuilders are on very high Testosteron you know😃😃he can be burned the stage or something else🤣
Arnold once said, “it’s about size, proportion, the whole thing. Like a sculptor who slaps on some clay and says I need a little bit more deltoids to make the proportions right.” Yes, I do agree that Hadi should have won simply because Derek’s muscles are too young and smooth, very similar to how Big Ramy was in his early years. Yes Hadi was off with his hamstrings but so was Derek’s hams and slightly with his quads for Hadi and his triceps looked too small from the front but his muscle quality was 5 times greater literally than Derek’s smooth puffy like muscles. Finally as for size, both evenly matched other than Derek’s side triceps bigger and Hadi’s shoulders was bigger than Derek’s which I think deserves more points than triceps and I definitely did not like how when they called for the abs and thigh pose instead of flexing the abs Derek did a vacuum pose.
Hadi won from the front, Derek won from the back but I think Derek’s physique overall is why he won. Insane taper and shape. I think the judges this year made a point to say they are looking for a more pleasing physique. You could honestly go either way with the top 2 this year
BULLSHIT Mr Know-it-all
Chris Aceto’s impression of Milos was spot on 😂 10:05
I thought it was Milos at first 🤣
i was really funny. he did a good job mimicking milo's voice.
Oliva is right 100%. Hadi was not off to lose. In order to dethrone a champ you got to be way better. Derek was as good as Nasser in 1997 but Yates still remained the champ. Coleman was a bit off in 2001 while Cutler was tremendous, but it did not make Cutler to win that year. Tonight Hadi was not off at all, but Derek won. Come on people! They robbed him tonight second fucking time!
Soft back, and loose skin wrinkles in the prejduging photos. Hadi use to look better when he placed lower. He hsd gained way too much mass. Too many people want to give him the win because he has shredded obliques. However his waist is too wide now.
@@nickz6143 DEREK was soft on chest shoulders, he has the lumps of injection on his lats. that make him look very shitty and suspicous. check his front double biceps.
The criteria and judging standards have evolved over the last 25 years - different crew in charge now and they don't play the same dynastic politics. They know the title is better served provoking fan interest and controversy with it switching hands so often. You no longer have to "knock out the champ" - the champ just has to come "off" compared to their previous "best" and it's game over for them eg - Phil, Brandon, Ramy and now Hadi
@@carvedouttastonefacts
@@carvedouttastonepolitics is exactly why Derek won tho. They needed a “Jay cutler” type of persona to keep the sport alive since hadi and rami didn’t have English as a language.
When Dave puts on the blazer, you know that he's officially back lol.
What is blazer?
@@balitzkysport coat, the jacket he’s wearing
Different term as used as a suit jacket.
Back from the dead
you forgot to mention his pre-interview "hair in a can"
Rx Muscle knocked it out of the park with all this coverage. Thanks Rx.
That 'onion skin' comment by Milos made my day.
But they stole Hadi’s mr olympia when he became 4th and 3rd. He had the edge this year and this is the 3rd time. Big respect to Derek (he is an animal) but Hadi was better.
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Better is relative - its not our opionion that matters, its the judges and they went for structure and shape.
@@1armeddrummerinaprisonrock244 I don’t tend to argue with you here because I know you have eyes and logic as a human. I refer u to a bunch of videos that compared them pose by pose. Though good that u r a legit fan.
14:59
Fired up discussion 😂
All these guys deserve their own trophy’s especially Milo’s and Chris, their passion is unwavering.
Amazing men 👏🏼
THIS WAS A VERY SAD MR OLYMPIA, POLITICS WINNING AGAIN
I don’t care what the judges say .. They made a mistake going with a short blocky waist Mr. O.. Samson Duada’s V Physique will always be the standard to achieve. Period.
I’m happy finally we see an interview with people that I respect their opinions and they all had Hadi💪
*I want people to spew the same opinions as me* very intelligent
I think the right call was made. It is just opinion after all.
i wanted derek to win, but after seing Ryan Terry win in mens physique I thought it was over for Derek, crearly they were rewarding hardness and condition, but i guess not? I actually thought the only poses where Derek wasnt losing were the back poses, every front pose was: Worst quads/sweep out of the 3, Worst abs development out of the 3, Worst Chest out of the 3.
@@PedroDiaz-oq9msguess you didn't see the division that's closest to open in 212...
@@soanywayistartedblastin8463 😂😂 touche
Derek did not beat Hadi but his nationality surely did 🙏
Keep crying, that’s why last 3 years it was for nationality . Ignorant.
Derek had way better glutes!!
@@slowjamcdubso it is glutes war . .ok didnt know that's what makes someone a mr Olympia .
Which explains why millions are migrating to the United States 🇺🇸 every month. They love ❤️ it there. They love ❤️ the freedom. They love ❤️ the excellence. They love Dollar Trees 🌳 and 7 Eleven convenience stores.
@@slowjamcdubif it's about the glutes then why Samson won in arnold against nick? It's everything shape size symmetry balance of upper and lower body plus the biggest factor is eye pleasing if Derek was more eye pleasing compared to hadi then he wins that's all
I love listening to Milosh. I could listen to him talk about bodybuilding all day!
Nice work on the coverage Dave. Hadi was quite obviously the best guy.
Dave was on 🔥 this weekend really in his element definitely very insightful and full of passion loved to see it
Dude it makes it difference. The energy
full of amphetamines too
Dave is a treasure. Period
Yeah Dave really made the O so interesting. Best guy in bodybuilding
@@TheCoadyphaha😂 he do have the prescription of the Elvanse (dexamphetamines) perhaps 😂😂 i do lmao
Judges fucked up big time this year. What a shame! Sport should not be like that!
please elaborate, can't spew generalities without backing it up - otherwise you just look like a mouthbreather.
It’s always been like that , Is a shame
it's not a sport. it's subjective. lol
@@bobbobb5759 call it what ya wanna call it , will always be a circus that can’t even set a standard for what judges are looking for , Derek had weak points Hadi didn’t, hadi did enough to easily win again
i think its politics...the happenings in israel and iran involve.
Thanks Dave, this "council" is always my preferred part!
Milos acts like it has to be one or the other. Derek won cause he had the best balance of everything
Brandon is the real champion with that level of sportsmanship and dedication to the sport.
Nice comment, but there is nothing you can buy with that unfortunately.
It has nothing more to bring to the stage, he should have been 7th or 8th with that condition.
But it seems that he can go away like while being 4 weeks off.
A true champ
I love Derek's physique with all my soul, but this year they stole this trophy from Hadi. This year Hadi really was better. Bigger, drier, more conditioned. By a hair but better. It's due to political situation.
Hadi was bigger but not drier! his condition looked same as last year and that wasnt his best condition, he only got bigger. Derek was way better from the back!
😂😂😂 good lord people. If you truly believe that, please answer me this. Hadi barely beat Derek last year, Hadi was better last year than this year, the waist has gotten bigger, and Derrk has MASSIVELY improved from a year ago.... How would Hadi win that? I'm not arguing that Hadi was harder and more ripped from the front than Derek but he was more conditioned last year. Derek also had tighter glutes and hammies! If you want to say you thought Hadi won, sure I completely disagree with you but definitely wouldn't be a blasphemous argument, but saying Hadi got robbed? Nah.... That's blasphemous!
@@matthewpinson4208 Hadi was better this year than last year. There's already side by side comparison videos up to show it. His conditioning was better this year.
@@matthewpinson4208 He barely won due to this filthy dirty corrupt sport being so dishonest. It’s rigged mate, and naive gullible fans will never see this. This is the same as the real world, most people who vote have no idea how corrupt and organised this world we live in is. If you vote then you have no reason to complain and you also have blood on your hands
@@minoritymind interesting, almost every former pro and YT'ers I watched who picked Hadi said he was holding water in his back and I noticed the second he walked on stage his glutes were nonexistent by his usual standards. I don't see any way he was better than last year. I'll do some more digging and look into what you said. 🫡
They have their poster boy now. I knew if it was even remotely justified that they would give him the nod. Just look at how they gifted him 2nd laat year.
Hadi is far superior. Derek still has a lot of catching up to do, if he even does it. However they gave him the title. I thought Samson should've been 2nd
They should do a post olympia interview with the judges. The whole panel.
They went with shape over everything. I wasn't totally surprised after what happened in the 212.
They went with shape, really, his legs are poor, not much sweep, lost them in pre judging, average at best, his arms are poor, no peak, soft from the front, chest not as good as samson or hadi, really soft, his abs are poor, lost them in judging so was hitting vaccum instead of abs and thighs, worst champ ever
@@alpine1609why are complaining about a vacuum he has abs. The fact that a guy in open can even hit a vacuum being such a mass monster is nothing short of impressive
Sampson had the shape
@@keithremedycalled abs n thighs not Abs n vaccum pose properly it’s not hard, he was soft as fuck on top
Gay
Hadi should of won. I was shocked how big he was this year while also keeping his hardness and conditioning. Sure, Derick improved some today but Hadi is the reigning Mr Olympia so it should take someone who is definitely superior to dethrone him. Not just someone who people say " oh look how impressive he is". Everybody is impressive on that stage for crying out loud.
This is the most useless comment. "Someone who people say oh look how impressive he is" is not why he won. The judges had a close competition and Derek edged Hadi out for a multitude of reasons, but not by a longshot. How about commenting on some specifics mate.
Full of oil and blocky waist.
Derek won back poses and side poses with better definition, muscle insertions, and conditioning. Better back, lats, glutes, hams, and calves. Hadi won front with better conditioning, chest, quad, ab striations. Derek more symetrical and narrower waste. Narrow victory.
You’re doing a great job “for crying out loud”, for a previous Mr.O who acted like a bitch and stomped off stage like a 2year old who didn’t get his way. The IFBB should be embarrassed.
@@Habeev07 lol conditioning
This was such a great video. Happy to see pros give their opinions and express the same feelings the majority of fans have.
Derek was the rightful winner IMHO.
Andrew Jacked will never get far with Aceto. He needs to drop him as fast as possible and start training with Hani YESTERDAY!
Aceto has lost his touch, he hasn’t brought anyone into good shape in the last few years, maybe Ramon that’s about it
Ace to gotta cause he was not speaking very highly of Andrew during an interview!
One could see a rift between the two after the Arnold Classic. I am pretty sure they are over
Andew Jacked needs Hani. He has to have better conditioning, especially with his bigger size now.
I feel the same way about Samson with Milos. But is Hany supposed to train everybody?
Hadi was the most complete with the densest muscle and the crazy ab/thigh and MM. Won the front shots and at least 4 mandatory overall. No way Lunsford wrestled this away from the Champ.
Born in the wrong country. Bad RNG rip
WELL HE DID
He easily did Derek has way better structure than hadi.
@@Egolifter42069 I like Derek I just think Hadi did enough and was stuffed by the judges. Way better structure is going overboard. Hadi looks denser and stronger with a more aesthetic set of abs, obliques and serratus muscles. Derek is slightly wider and slimmer at the waist.
also the SEO inflated lats, so we have gone from monsters like Coleman and Jay Cutler to watery 5'2 ex 212 clowns? no surprise pro bodybuilding is dead..Hadi was robbed due to politics, with the israel war and organisers being pro israel they would never put the belt on hadi
Samir don't care about no camera shot lol. Love his passion for the sport.
Andrew should have placed higher. I hope next year the top 2 are Samson and Andrew.
Dave is in his element, really enjoyed his coverage of the olympia over all of the other news outlets.. props to you !
Hadi had the better physique with less weaknesses than Derek .... BUT ... Hadi doesnt offer anything to the Olympia brand. He won last year and then totally disapeared. The Olympia is a business and needs an ambassador who will promote the business. THATS A FACT.
hadi lost fairly. sore loser. stop making excuses.
people have been saying that since at least Yates 30 years ago, he would win and disappear until next Olympia
how exactly do you expect guys to promote this? most people don't want to look like a pro bodybuilder, let alone people no longer being ignorant as to what they are doing to look that way...
@MikeG82 Dorian brought a new market to the uk, Kevin levrone said that Joe weider told him that Dorian being from the uk brings a new market, I guess hadi does too being from Iran? I don't even know anymore
How stupid is that so train all year pipy at post because sumone talks better . It that begins of end if go that way
if that is the way how the mister Olympia is to be judged then is a fiasco.
Regarding moving forward off the line... just have a camera focused on their feet, and if they cross the line, then they will lose a placing for that individual pose... so if they were graded as 1st, then the after the grading has been done, the camera would be checked, and if they were judged as position 1 for the back lat spread, then they will move down to 2nd... and so on for every pose... you don't need to disqualify the competitors for moving across the lines... just ding them a position for that pose, regardless if it's a unanimous decision by the judges... because stepping closer to the judges is an unfair advantage and it has to be controlled... and by scaring contestants with lose of a position is a big enough deterant...
So if you're in the top 3 call out... and the judges grade you as 3rd... but you've stepped in front of the line... then the person that's in the 2nd call out that would have been judged 4th by the judges, can move up to 3rd for that pose... got it ??? good :)
Clearly all of the guys who know bodybuilding including myself had Hadi choopan clearly winning the show. He absolutely smoked Derek from the front. He also won rear lat spread. Derrick must have learned how to take his shots right before the show just like Big Rami because he had a huge welts on the top of his glutes towards the outside. The judges had him beating hottie in prejudging and there's no f******way on Earth that happened. Nick Walker in the condition he was in 5 days before the show would have absolutely smoked all of them. But the only one who would have even give him a battle would have been Hardy. Derek has teeny weeny little legs from the front just like always. He has no abdominals that's why he does a vacuum in all his front poses including ab and quad. He has no chest and no shoulders and a torn bicep on the right arm. I am not a hottie Choopan fan or hater but he definitely won. Dave you need to know your bodybuilding history a little bit more. Samir changed our sport. The quads and back and conditioning was that a level we had never seen before. He ushered in the big quads into bodybuilding as we know it today.
You mean Hottie
Samir knows what hes talking about cause in my opinion Hadi was robbed for sure cause the lvl of hardeness and thickness was unbeatable
He wasn’t robbed, the condition wasn’t miles apart, but the fullness of Derrick was the decision maker there. Also what I will say is moving forwards, Derrick is a better ambassador for the sport. He is always polite, happy to talk to people, he will be doing everything he can to promote. Hadi and ramy were not what the sport needs. Samson, Andrew, nick they will all take the sport to new levels like Chris bumstead has done
@@Thebuffgardenerso its no longer bodybuilding but ambassador sport, the instagram influencers are gonna start winning the shows from this comment
@@ThebuffgardenerDerek was by no means fuller. Not from the front at least.
@@NyashaM it always has been. that's politics and it exists in everything not just bb
@@NyashaMwhat do you think Arnold was to the sport? He wasn’t always the best bodybuilder on stage. As a champion you are the brand ambassador and it’s very important to promote and bring more eyes.
So yeah it was always important since the 70s.
Milos referring to Hadi “This might cost him, and you all know how that works”
It shouldn’t be like this though 😕
Would you deliberately piss off a judge in a court of law? There are always repercussions to one's behavior, right or wrong.
From a judge or organizers stand point, if he doesn't respect our 2nd place medal and can't be mature, then why should we even invite him. This is their subliminal thought process if nothing else...
Right or wrong you don't f*** with the hand that feeds you
Sergio looks amazing standing there with his arms folded....top tier genetics..he needs to put it all together before times runs out
Congrats Dave and
Welcome back to the
Olympia 💪
Great coverage from the RX muscle team
Well done!
I don't even really love Hadi as a guy. But he should have won imo. It's politics. He hasn't been a great bodybuilding ambassador for the Olympia and Derek will be a much better fit.
You have a point there
It's funny that you hear all these comments. But you didn't hear any comments like this in the 1980. Mister olympus when arnold schwarzenegger won and everybody got screwed
The Olympia needs this every year. This feels like the first Olympia in years having you guys there.
Great coverage by the entire RX team during this show and it's so great to see Dave on location again. This is what made me fall in love with this channel over a decade ago.
Facts bro 2011/2012 era
Silver spoon boy.
@@perrymusclesmarinaraenunzi1949 💀
@@perrymusclesmarinaraenunzi1949 what do you even mean
Jon da🧀👻
Dave did the best Job reporting this weekend! Great job RX 🎉
These two legends remind me of the arguments with my brothers 😂
Hadi was sharper. Across the board
Lundsford didn't have the quads didn't have the abs and didn't have the calves, how the hell did he win?
True
He definitely deserves it more than Samson, who has zero striations and looked off
Best taper… best back & proportions similar size to Hadi made the most progress out of the rest & Hadi essentially looked not much different then last year. If you think Hadi & Samson have a better back double Bi you got to be silly
@@keithremedy His taper is crazy, the best I have seen, probably.
American nationality
Glad for Derek but me not being a fan of Hadi, I must admit, Hadi deserved this win more this year.
i disagree. he didnt improve Derek clearly improved!
@@kanyewestvideos3925 did not improve?! He became bigger from previous year while still remaining dry and pealed!
@@nicholaspetre1 he lost some condition in the back and sides.
Im a sociologist and i have to say this behaviors some competitors do in all competitions :
WHEN U SHOW DISATISFACTION OF THE RESULT , YOU ARE CAUSING ALOT OF FANS TO BECOME MORE VOCAL , THEY EXAGGERATE YOU AND BLAME THE JUDGES !
this will eventually MANIPULATE the judges decisions the next competitions !
This is extremely practical and effective and ive seen many competitors that use this MANIPULATION TECHNIC and NOW the most important part :
IF OTHER COMPETITORS OF 2024 MR OLYMPIA WANT A "FAIR DECISION" FOR ALL COMPETITORS , THEY HAVE TO START "CANCELLING" WHOEVER USE THIS MANIPULATION TECHNIC , BY BASHING AND ADDRESSING THE DISRESPECT TO THE COMPETITION TO PREVENT THE 2024 JUDGES DECISION MANIPULATIONS!
When ever a competitor use such manipulation technic , everybody who care about the faireness of the competition must turn the competitor into a CLOWN !
All competitors and infliencers should do this !
So cool all these guys from earlier bb times discussing about the new winner, all with their own opinion and still all on such fire for bodybuilding! Love it😍 thanks for this video....
Great interviews Dave. Perfect post comp debrief. Thanks mate.
No Derek did not deserve the title! The title should have gone to Hadi!
The judgement was a fiasco! Absolutely unfair, and political!
Would love to see you say this to Steve W's face. So brave behind your keyboard mate. You know it's an idiot comment and massively whiney / disrespectful. Are we in kindergarten?
Hadi didn't take 2nd because of politics.
Hadi took 2nd because Derek earned 1st with his back, legs and especially glutes development, with his massive gains and improvement since last year, and because Hadi thought he could make up for his lack of gains with dehydration on the stage.
Derek earned that first place win, Hadi got the best position available for him in light of all that.
If it were about politics Hadi might have taken 4th or lower, if he was allowed to show up at all.
After his spectacle, I hope he isn't invited next year. 🤷♂️
Samson should have won but he was brought in soft once again. I wanted Derek to win, but it sure looked like Hadi to me.
I thought hadi was gonna get it from the front, then when they turned around I knew it was Derek's 🤷♂️
Instead of having a line on the stage they should have a raised platform so you cannot step forward without stepping up onto the raised platform. It'd only have to be 6 inches high, it wouldn't hide anything other than their feet and it would stop people stepping forward
Samsons sweating was worse than Hunter Labrada, I didn’t even think that was possible. Seriously, he was dripping everywhere on stage. Also, Samson was a bit watery too. But still improved.
samson was better conditioned at the arnold. although the arnold wasnt amazing condition. he only improved his back! he needs to switch to a coach who actually cares for condition. not milos.
He was sweating like a gypsy with a mortgage
Was there something to attempt to eliminate water?
It’s called oil not sweat he needs more of it been talked about his skin absorbs it fast.
You were there!
Why has no one mentioned the golf-ball sized lumps under Derek's arms? At the top of his lats.
Useless comment
Bravo bro👍
Or the synthol filled delts of Hadi
Where? Under tris? I’m asking so I go look it up lmao
And the big lumbs on the glutes of dereck
Great job on the coverage! Kudos to Dave and the whole RX crew.
The technician, Jumbo, Palumbo, the mine, Sara Shiv, Mr natural Olympia, and my main man, the Lebanese lover period, ou our ex muscle. The truth in bodybuilding, is more than just a title bodybuild
The biases involved in bodybuilding judging is insane. Like listening to people argue over MJ or Lebron
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Let's get it straight down LeBron isn't even in the same category as MJ. Period end. That's like comparing a Ford to a Ferrari I mean come on now
Hadi definitely did enough to win. He was hard as nails especially in all the front shots compared to Derek. Another disappointing decision at the “biggest” bodybuilding show in the world.
BINGO! The whole world got to see how a previous Mr. O winner acts when he didn’t get his way. Hadi acted like a little bitch! What an embarrassment for the IFBB.
Andrew got robbed for 4th place minimum! He just needs hamstrings or better posing, but after that is game over! 🔥
You just explained exactly why he didn't place higher. LOL
Curry was FAR more balanced and complete.
Huh? This was his worst showing since turning pro, he had fat rolls all over the place with the smoothest glutes and hamstrings since Nasser lol, and his routine was really nothing to write home about either. I don't think he deserved 5th at all, maybe 6th at best.
Gotta love the passion. These guys love the sport.
Wow...this should go into Palumbo and Acetos BB hall of fame museum playing on loop. Most Legendary Olympia Debate. Look at the names here! All majorly old school guys and a Jr from the same school.
I'm sorry Hadi u just got robbed ... U deserved that W but it is what it is ...😢
You’re sorry for a man who handles defeat like a 2 year old when something doesn’t go his way? Hadi showed the whole world how an IFBB previous Mr. O acts when they don’t get their way. What an embarrassment for the IFBB and the bodybuilder community.
@@OfficeLinebacker-FJB yeah he did wrong ... He shouldn't had to do that .. like Derek respected you last year , you should did the same...
But the decision was so biased .. he was so deserving than derek ...
This feels like People's Court with the style of crowd interview,.. I love it!!!
For god’s sake it was clear that Samson should have come in sharper and he somehow did not.
For me 2023 mr Olympia is Hadi Choopan ....🥇 ... congratulations Hadi Choopan for becoming 2nd time mr Olympia.👏👏
I hate to tell you, he isn't Mr Olympia!
I agree... Hadi should of won. In order to beat the champ, u have to come in completely dialed in... if it was that close, it should of went to Hadi. Derek was amazing though. Samson & andrew are coming if they improve there conditioning.. either way, it was a great show. Much respect to all the athletes for putting there bodies & minds through hell
Love hearing the view of the veterans of the sport
Milo’s is contradicting himself by saying at this level they nitpick the little details but then says “it’s not a striated glute contest, it’s not a diet contest, it’s not a anything that is nitpicked about my athlete contest”
Samir is right and a smart man.
Aceto and Milos analysis all day yes please!!! Like Levrone said to Dave in an old interview he said Joe Weider told him the best doesn't always win, it's what's best for the sport.
Funk that! It means bodybuilders from many countries should not put in their all effort which is not good for the sport.
You are exactly right, you’re not qualified judges. As long as you compete in a judged sport stand by the decision buddies.
This is very entertaining. The coaches discussing the results 😂.
Bro I swear, I was just about type this 😂😂😂😂 I’m laughing non stop. Samir bannot is funny asf 😂
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You see, Mr. Olympia is for the athletes from all over the world. If the judges have to be biased towards people from their country only, then should restrict the contest to USA only. Contestants work hard and go through a lot to make it to USA to attend the contest but still this is disrespect to the deserving athletes not to be given the fair placing..
You sound like an AI Bot Farm from the Middle East crying like Hadi did when stomped off stage like true champion.
Hadi didn't take 2nd because of geopolitics.
Hadi took 2nd because Derek earned 1st with his back, legs and especially glutes development, with his massive gains and improvement since last year, and because Hadi thought he could make up for his lack of gains with dehydration on the stage.
Derek earned that first place win, Hadi got the best position available for him in light of all that.
If it were about politics Hadi might have taken 4th or lower, if he was allowed to show up at all.
After his spectacle, I hope he isn't invited next year. 🤷♂️
The problem with the Olympia are the judges.They should only have former IFBB pros judging
It takes time, commitment as you have to do other shows too
It's the same reason there is only one ex-UFC fighter who refs.
Btw, I think all judges are ex bodybuilders. The pro label doesn't mean guys like Aceto or Dave know less.
@vlada their has been more than enough time for the judging to change. I totally agree with the term "pros it would be best to have former Mr.Os and Arnold classic champions
That’s what happens at Subjective sports just like in boxing last time between Francis and fury , results may come down to how few people called jury feel
Just like beauty pageants too.
If Hadi wasn’t from the Middle East and could take English he would of won
I feel the same. Ramy got the same treatment but Hadi did the exact thing. You cant be a Olympia champ and not be constantly pumping out media. Im a huge fan of derek but we wont win next year.
specifically Iran... The primary country supporting the Gazans as their being genocided by Israhell.
Umm he was from the Middle East and couldn’t speak English last year as well but won ?? Ramy too
Your entire comment can be refuted by looking at last year's result... grow up and get a fkn life mate.
@@avm7259 obviously didn’t bring more money and fans in, plus the war
Hadi definitely the winner. And he walked off AFTER congratulating DL and taking photos for like 10 minutes. HC was sad and had enough. It's NOT disrespectful IMO.
"Hadi Choopan was Sliced and Diced, Jesus Christ"
Milos is such a gem without even trying 😂😂
Blasphemous language on a public forum is disgraceful, Milos is a clown
The judges foreshadowed their decision with the 212 decision going with a more pleasing physique
Hadi as the most complete physique
bodybuilding has regressed, Dorian 30 years ago would've decimated all of these guys
The size of guys now isnt even comparable. 30 years ago they wouldn’t even be able to beat some
of the physique guys now. Drugs and nutrition have made a big impact.
With those legs he wouldn't even make top 10. Revolutionary for his time, but machines, drugs, and nutrition have changed.
Lol no
Lee Priest
No way in hell