'06 to '11 Subaru Forester, Impreza & Outback SOHC 2.5 Timing Belt & Water Pump Kit - Part I
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- In this video I bring you along as I do some routine maintenance on a 2011 Subaru Forester. I'll be installing an Aisin Timing Belt Kit that includes all of the idler pulleys, the water pump and the tensioner. I'll throw in a new thermostat to and show you some tips along the way that may help you working on yours.
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You knew THAT all too well 😂
That's what I used on my Subaru outback 2011 291k.
Where did you get that giant ass pick??
I saw how fast that Astro took off the crank bolt. I ordered one from Amazon with the demo I saw. I need one like that and thank you ..
@@MKdefends The link I posted here is for the same one I have but the "V2." Same gun just way more power than what I have. You'll love it!
Just don’t break the bolt off in the water pump!! 😮
Love this community.
@@FortunateJuice😊
🤣😂🤣😂
Sorry Ray, didnt expect to see you here but first person I thought of!!
Smh
That lost motor ever materialize?
One of your old videos on the Honda Pilot timing belt replacement has saved me over 3 grand. I have done it twice now using your video as my guide. I really appreciate all of the time that you take in explaining what you are doing and the pitfalls to avoid. Wish I had a trustworthy mechanic like you near me for those jobs I just don't want to tackle.
$3k for a timing belt replacement? ouch .. honda dealer here just a couple years ago use to run a deal $695 4cyl $895 6cyl still way too much for me so i do it myself while I still can
Probably all repaires combined he could do himself...but you gotta say,I buy a lot of spare parts and prices have easily doubled compared to 3 years ago. Things are crazy, I just paid $30 for 3 copper and 2 aluminum seal rings (like the ones on an oil drain plug) a few weeks ago...
Just buy a kit online, fits 9/10 times@@xcofcd
Hey Eric, as the official bearing aficionado of this channel, I was going to say that ol' Rainman Ray has a fantastic video of what not to do on one of these engines but he beat us to it!.
You gotta do some wheel bearing while you got it in there!
When working on Subarus, it's always nice to get a break from blown head gaskets and spun rod bearings
The ones I always had rear main seal leak about half court a day 😆 lol
@@betomendez4304 The torque converter seal and front trans cover gets resealed at that time as well since they leak.
Those 2.5's are super simple to work on though. Last engine pull, I think I had it out in a little over an hour. Splitting them, they stick on the dowels.
Last one I did, was an hour to get it ready and 2-3 hrs of cussing to get it off the trans. Ended up with a block and a jack between the firewall and the engine. Oh and welcome to Michigan. Ugh
@@upman664 I take something and try to jam/tap it between the two to try and open that gap slightly, then insert another something slightly thicker. I might try a 5 in 1 paint tool on the next one. Last job I broke a flat thin screwdriver tip off.
the blown head gasket issue is from 15 years ago.
You're a great guy Eric. Maken a video for the people. What-a-guy! 😃
You not only make a video for the people, you include Mrs. O and it's always nice to see Mrs.O.
A spritz of Kroil in my morning coffee cup keeps me fresh n pliable for the entire work day!
If you’re looking for a textbook…probably find a textbook! Awesome! I’ll take your knowledge and experience over a textbook any day!
Edit: not only a model mechanic, a model husband on how he treats the Mrs. O 🥇
the village looks like a nice place to live my kinda place
Very low income area, no business and lots of meth. Plus we have the bail reform so crime is always on the rise, the politics are a joke, taxes will blow your mind and every thing is illegal except drugs and hookers. Oh and they don't want you to own a gun or a gas stove. Other than that it is a pretty nice place :)
@@SouthMainAuto That is getting to be about every very small town in the US.
This job looks like a dream compared to doing timing belt on a P.T. Cruiser
The people love you for your videos!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Making videos for the people what more can viewers ask for.
8:50 if you have a bike shop in town, bike boxes are double wall cardboard, it works great for protecting the radiator. I also use them as creepers in the driveway. Easy to slide on and very thin so you don't have to raise the extra couple of inches a creeper requires. If you're just working topside, they're great for catching dropped things, you just grab the cardboard and slide it out with the item on top.
A super slow-mo of the bolt going into the anti-freeze bucket would have been cool.
Something that Rainman Ray would do. Drop something and then reshow it in slo-mo. 😋
@@johnhpalmer6098 Subaru. Water pump. Sometimes Ray likes to keep part of the bolt in the block...
@@mentalmodeled I saw that too. In fact, he did get it out the other day, while it sat on a table.
@@johnhpalmer6098 Yep. As always, Ray gets the job done.
@@johnhpalmer6098 "Bolt Gravity" 🤣
I hope Ray isn't watching, he probably still has nightmares when that water pump bolt broke off in the Subaru he was servicing a while back. Man, that engine gave him a lot of grief😬 Have a great night, Eric👍
Ray actually got that bolt out of the subie, once it was out of the car and on the table. In fact, he did that I think the other day.
@@johnhpalmer6098 I know, and I was so glad that he did get it out as there's nothing like overcoming an obstacle, and having that feeling of satisfaction in achieving what might seem like an impossible feat😁
That subie engine is Still laying on Ray's work bench. I'd be pissed if I was that owner who brought their car in over 2 months ago to 'fix an oil leak'.
you beat me to it! I was just going to say the same thing lol
UPDATE: Ray is watching!! and told Eric not to break the water pump bolt!
@@daveclark8337 Can't go off on the videos how long it was... lots of times the videos are not in chronological order. Could be that engine is already back in the Sub.
I always pull the fans but I have to say I like the cardboard trick on the radiator.
The peeples really appreciate your hard work making informative videos. Kinda reminds me of the movies I used to have to watch in traffic school to not get my license pulled, like "Wheels of Tragedy." Entertaining, but with a serious lesson.
Home gamer. Just saw this video come up. My kid and I did one of these two years ago - first timing belt job ever - and while it was a struggle, we got it done. The best part was when we found some jackwagon had stripped the tensioner bolt and stuffed it full of JB Weld instead of fixing it properly. Looking forward to watching this to see if we did anything right. 😂
You guys keep bringing up Rainman Ray's adventure with the water pump bolt, we all know he just accepted it as part of everyday work! It was SOO PLEASING TO SEE WHEN IT FINALLY BROKE LOOSE!
Yay, a video that isn’t brakes, bearings or suspension. This was a great flashback to the videos you used to have all the time, keep up the great work.
Nipping the plastic on the top side of the bolt was smart.
I'm so glad you highlighted the corrugated cardboard trick to protect the radiator cooling fins.
I was taught that many years ago while working in a custom car fabrication shop and do it everytime now.
Thanks for the video 👍
Thanks for putting me on to Astro! Great video as always and a tip of the hat to Mrs. O. Always a delight when she participates! 😁😁😁
By now, I’d have 4 broken bolts and the whole engine out of time and dropped the new water pump and put a ding on the sealing surface that could park a small car in. Maybe an Austin Mini. And I’d have to take some heart meds because I’d be so dang angry.
Thanks for bringing us along. This is a great video!! Loving your expertise and willing to give hints and tips. You da man, Mr. O!
Killing me today SirO. Just got done with an S6 V8 spark plug/coil job at 75k... no blood no foul...😂....this is a raw Suby utilitarian voyage....thank you.
YES! I've got a 2010 Forester and have been waiting for this exact video to come out! Eric is the best.
Your 1000% right on Aisin . Learned the hard way with gates.. The belt didnt even make 80k before it snapped..
Same here! And I had replaced the head gaskets and that was the timing kit I installed.
Gates has really gone down the toilet the last decade at least...
Have been tempted to install Gates.... Sure glad I didn't!
Honda Civic uses a timing chain, no issues after 400,000 miles
A lot of gates timing kits are only rated to 60,000 miles per their catalog
Through all the cordless crazy - I've held onto my Ingersol Rand air ratchet and heavy-duty impact gun. When the going gets tough the Ingersol Rand comes to the rescue.
Thanks for the tip about holdong the 'captive' nut on the radiator. BMW (M135i) used loctite on a headlamp fixing screw which guaranteed that the nut would spin in the plastic.
I'm a channel OG Eric (probably around subscriber No. 1500) and I remember an epic Subaru head gasket project you did back then where you had that right angle Ingersol Rand impact. I've never actually seen one in the flesh on this side of the pond. If I worked on cars for a living instead of a hobby I would probably have imported one!
I love the longer videos. 30+minutes
Nice video glad the waterpump bolt didnt break like one RainmanRay had...
Totally agree about Aisin. I've had nothing but great experiences with them!
My Mac hose pick... 4+ decades of reliable service! Every time I use that tool I'm stunned at how less of a pain it makes removing old stuck-on hoses.
the $3.99 picks from Harbor Freight are just as good, paying $120 for Mac picks doesn't make you a master mechanic
@@BartStar009 The Internet is an amazing place... It is a wealth of highly entertaining and useful information. It also contain plenty of bottom feeders, mosquitos, ticks, and other bloodsuckers.
Very true! But, I'll point you to the original comment -- "4+ decades ago." Harbor Freight wasn't on every street corner yet. Sears (Craftsman) was, however. But, they didn't carry all the specialized tools needed to make a job go smoothly.
Tools not withstanding, what makes me a master DIY mechanic is the fact that none of my family's cars, power sports, or power equipment implements have *ever* been to a retail repair facility in those 4+ decades.
The collection of MAC tools I do own were purchased while working full time and attending college part time. The firm I worked for covered 75% of my tuition costs.
So, if I could afford high-quality high-priced tools while being a broke college student, well, it *must* mean I'm rather capable of navigating basic finances enough for it not to matter...
@@BartStar009 Guy said he has had it for 40+ years. Buy once, cry once.
The people of the world appreciate you effort Mr O 👍👍👍
Watching you take the upper radiator hose off made me think of when I was young and poor and my car broke down. My cousin helped me fix it because I couldn't afford to pay anyone. He managed to convince me that I had to put RTV on the radiator hose fittings...all god damn 4 of them 😑😆😆
"Peacock".... cracks me up every time!
Love the "enhance, enhance". Looks easy when you do it Eric, that is how good you are.
While I will never do a timing belt on a Subaru I still enjoy watching Eric work......
Got an 05 impreza.outback sport with 345k. Just did the wp and timing belt. Used that kit too. High quality. Good afternoon in the driveway.
Subarus don't leak oil, they have factory installed rustproofing sprayers. I knew it was time to fix valve over gaskets when I could tell which stoplights were red the day before.
I really like the quality of the Aisin timing belt kits. I put one on an older Camry and have one on my Avalon. I kind of wish they came with a new thermostat too. Those Motorad thermostats are pieces of doo doo and you have to find an OEM thermostat that will get there the same time as the timing kit. Also, make sure you have the gaskets before hand that you need, timing cover gaskets, oil seals and FIPG. I may have to redo the oil pump on the Camry because we were on a budget and I had to install an aftermarket oil pump and it came with a paper gasket. I wish I had spent the $20 to find an OEM metal gasket. I was super hesitant to install that flimsy paper piece of toilet paper but now I know.
you can typically get tama thermostats from napa and tama is oem for most Japanese cars.
I've watched a lot of your videos & this has been the most informative yet! Great tips & tricks to carry out this procedure! Kudos Eric!
after watching Rainman Ray snap a bolt on the water pump doing the same job, I was holding my breath as Eric took the bolts out.....phew, that was a relief....Ray was fuming but thankful at the same time
Gravy work...I can do these so quick with no hoist...so easy!
Can't wait for part II , Adding coolant and burping the air out of the system, With the cooling fans operational after adding coolant and radiator sealed. I Have a very good friend that has a overheating issue and he already changed the thermostat and was wondering about engine still having air in the system. Still overheating after a 8 mile drive and hoping it's not the classic Subaru head gasket blown out. Thanks for sharing this Eric O and I love your videos and I have seen them all. FARMAL video's gardening cooking, rusty manifolds and Ice cream. :)
burping this engine is a pain the ass; let it heat up, turn the cab heat on, park it up and down on a slope,...
I address these myths in the second part of the video haha
@@SouthMainAuto we ain't got no vacuum pump, Eric.
Made me laugh how easy the water pump bolts came out a guy on another channel in Florida snapped one on the inner side & then spent hours getting it out broke a couple of easy outs then had to weld at least 4 nuts to the stub of the bolt to get it out & is still not sure if the block isn't warped from all the heat of the welding he should have taken your advice & give that bolt a handie.Cheers Mr O.
Jimmy Stewart, Joel McRea and Eric O. Three of my favorites to watch on the big screen
First blood at the 6 minute mark! It's going to be a great vid! 😅
Perfect timing. I’ve already done my OB 2011 timing belt, 100,000 miles ago. It’s due for another and although I’m not sweating it, I look forward to watching your method to learn some tips.
Thanks for your video! Not only is it clear, concise, and informative, I picked up a few tricks as well (the cardboard thing was a "Why the hell didn't I think of that" moment). Even though I'm a pretty good shade tree mechanic and have done a timing belt or two, this is the first boxer engine I've ever worked on. After these videos I have no doubts! I appreciate you!
+1 for the Aisin timing belt kit. I bought one for my 09 Legacy and every component was seemingly the same part as OEM.
I have been in business for just under 20 years, and when I first opened up I was doing a timing belt and the Bumper to Bumper was the only place that had the cam seal. I actually knew the guy running the store before he worked there and he proceeded to lecture me about how they could not be running out here for every $10 seal I needed. I have not done business with them since, unless there is absolutely no other choice. It is about 7 minutes from here to the Bumper to Bumper store.
I remember watching you way back when and we were talking about Eric the car guy and you saying you wished you had as many subscribers as he did. Well I think you have surpassed him and then some. never hear from him any more. That was back when the Hammer head was new.
If the repair will take time, like the one in the video, I like to put a charger on the battery, after disconnecting the negative cable of course, to at least do a bulk charge which could take several hours. This allows me the opportunity to then check the battery capacity with a battery internal impedance tester to estimate the remaining battery life. If needed, I could then recommend the customer replace the battery, order the battery and replace it as part of the repair.
I think what is not shown in many of Eric's videos is the initial inspection of the vehicle. It is common practice in the rust belt to do a basic inspection of the vehicle, both engine compartment and on the lift, to see if there is any obvious damage or other issues. Some larger shops have a cleaning bay where you can wash the underside of the vehicle and the vehicle itself before inspection if needed. Then it has to dry for a short time before being worked on. The cleaning bay is also used to wash car that have been worked on if part of the repair. Usually, services for detailing a vehicle are also available.
In the rust belt it is very handy to have an electrical bench to build replacement battery, starter and alternator cables.
Great video Eric O . Thank you for your time and patience explaining step by step with your car repairs. Looking forward to part 2.
I have removed the radiator on this motor several times between my own car and my sister's. I removed the radiator with the fans attached.
Having said that, I feel bad suggesting *anything* different to Eric's MO; these videos are, as I think all viewers know, as excellently useful as they are entertaining.
I am a Ford and Dodge guy but always talk car stuff with friends. They always tell me Subaru's can be tough to work on. You show me that with this vid. Great camera work. Always interesting.
That little Subaru would be something with a little 289 Ford with modern ignition and fuel injection
Thank you for the delightful video. I enjoyed seeing another timing belt. The repetition is ESSENTIAL to actually learning how to do these. Good job.
I don't know what kinda magic Eric has but I need some of that good JUJU. because those left timing cover bolts even break off on cars here in the Carolinas!! Guys over tighten them then they won't come out without breaking the rear cover.
I know I will be unpopular in this, but this is why I prefer cars with timing belts. So much easier to work with.
Sunday night and an SMA video! Best way to start a new week!
On to part 2. Thanks for the tech tips. Nice to see Mrs. O!
I watch the old Subaru Forrester video you did I believe it was an 05 Forrester I watched almost every night and in the video you actually showed the people the 90° in pack as well as the hose pinch pliers, and I believe it was called the power bar but I watch him all the time because I am about to take on an 02 Subaru Forester, so I’m glad you have that video out
The Yamada Water pumps for Subaru are made in South Charleston Ohio, about 15 minutes away from me. They used to be a customer of mine. They make all of Honda's pumps too, and they do Ford and GM ones. They also make Axles.
Be careful! The Rain man Ray broke one of the water pump bolts. He got it out eventually
Did he blame the customer? He's always ranting and raving about how the customer is upset and he is firing them.
We are literally about to do the Belt and pump on our Legacy 2.5 this morning so thanks for the video!!
Thank you once again! You and others have kept me rolling for a lottttta miles!!!
Loved your description on the "I've got a bad head gasket but I don't want to admit it" thermostat. 😂😂 I totally got hosed on that situation on one of my Honda's.
Exactly!!
Best channel on UA-cam. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 God bless you and yours, Eric O!
That Subaru is a great car!!!
I did my first timing belt water pump on my 1989 Toyota pickup v6 last April which was a lot of fun but nerve racking with all the old brittle plastic.
Love these kinds of videos because there are tidbits at every turn. I don't even mind having to wait for part 2 ... But what the heck am I going to do till then?
Subaru Thunder
Thanks for the video
I thought the internet said the hardest part was the Subaru crank bolt that’s the gold measuring stick for all the impact videos
Glad to see you still use air tools. I think they are faster and more powerful.
Love the premptive repair videos-you know it will break so fix before it does !!
Damn. I wish I had seen the radiator cardboard tip six water pumps ago. Another great video, Thanks Eric.
If you're not in too much hurry you can order OEM parts directly from the manufacturer and have sent to the local dealer. This is about 1/2 to 1/3 of the cost of buying directly from the dealer parts desk. But it might take a couple of days to get delivered.
I love square nuts captured in plastic, my license plate bracket has that and I ended up cutting it free because the plastic was thin enough to allow it to spin but thick enough for the vice grip trick not to work
I recently did my very first DIY timing belt/water pump on my wife's 2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid. It was both exciting and terrifying, but in the end was not the huge deal I imagined it to be. Now I'm wondering how difficult/crazy pulling out an engine would be and have thought about buying a Subaru with blown head gasket as a project car. It would be fun for my kids to watch and they can keep it afterwards.
They're not too bad to pull the engines. There's an upper mount on the transmission that needs to be removed so the transmission can be lifted high enough. FYI
@@dans_Learning_Curve Why are you pulling the trans mount to pull the engine? Mine come right out without pulling any trans mount. I do drop the exhaust off though.
I've found that ordering some shop supplies to bump up the ticket value makes those parts stores deliver those small items quicker. Toss a jug of freon on it and they bring it right away. Usually I just add brake parts cleaner or coolant.
I did this job on my 1991 Miata, it took 3 days, mainly because when I did it it was 90+ out and I'd start sweating so badly I was dripping on the engine and my hands were so wet the tools got slippery. So, I work for 20 or 25 minutes, get sweaty, then go into AC and cool off then do another 20 or 25.
perfect timing, just getting ready to do the timing belt on my moms 2010 forester. I have plenty of experience with the older models, but always like watching you and the way you do things always learn something from your videos.
timing belt is a waste of time WITHOUT rebuilding the whole engine, Subaru oil burner, POS
I'm so glad they switched to timing chains in the later models
@@DaDaDo661 it's got pros and cons, I proffer the timing belt system over the timing chain mainly because the timing chain systems tend to need to be resealed at about the same intervals because they start to leak oil.
@@BartStar009 what a worthless comment that provides no value at all. I have had several Subaru motors that ran absolutely fine into 300k miles with minimal issues
@@greasemonkeymechanic1 I have a 2016 and a 2020. No leaking yet on the 2016, but we will see
I just did one of those with the Aisin kit. The clogged pulley was not pressed in all the way, I had to throw it in the press and eye ball it best as possible. Other than that, no issues.
Eric,
Excellent video as always - thank you!
SMA#1
Paul (in MA)
Looks like we did ok - our only big mistake was taking the radiator all the way out of the car. (The juice isn't worth the squeeze.) Love the idea of putting a piece of cardboard in there.
On our '06, the timing mark on the cam pulleys was a smaller cast line in the edge of the pulley, not as obvious as on your '11, and the white dot was not right on top of it either - one side had the white dot about 1.5 teeth away from the actual mark, and the other side was 3. And FWIW, the Continental "pro series" kit has an Aisin water pump and Japanese (NGK?) idler bearings.
Fun fact: I'm an outside contractor who frequently works at an Aisin facility. It's pronunced EYE-SHUN though many employees often say it as EYE-SIN
I usually pull the radiator with the fans attached because the rust. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
I love these gravy jobs
I'd be taking off the oil pump and replacing the o-ring + locktite on the screws, they like to back out, use anaerobic sealant on the pump. Of course all depending on customer requests and budget. Perfect work as usual my friend.
Just finished working on a Very rusty Crusty 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 4.0L Straight 6 typical Radiator Transmission cooler lines and Upper and lower Radiator Hoses and Replaced the Electric Fan was a fun job Nope not at all with all the rust we so get rusty cars in az 18:33 Eric O I feel your pain kinda reminded me of your Lifted Jeep Eric @South Main Auto Repair LLC
Bought an '03 thinking it needed head gaskets. Owner had it diagnosed over the phone.
Well, the first oil change reviewed a broken hose clamp! Yes, the stationary end broke off! Drove it quite a while until I got tired of smelling burning oil on the exhaust!
Learned the hard way to not use the gates kits. Good thing the engine is easy to remove 😅
Comment as I got to the end of the video. I’m all for your rant about timing belt kit brands and using oem, except Continental.
I religiously use their kits. Made in Japan components(oem), and a belt made by Continental in Germany. I trust their rubber:) plus they include cam seals
I'm liking the cardboard hack! I mean "TIP". :)
After seeing your Astro magnetic shop light on one of your previous videos I ordered one and then a buddy ordered one. I've used mine for all sorts of repair jobs.
I love all those little tips and tricks that you show us. Thanks man !
13:21 "and then in a perfect world". for me, it went, stop: remove radiator: twist ac condenser out of the way: grab pullers and fight for 30 minutes breaking things to almost remove the crank pulley. I don't know if the last person got thread locker in there or what, but she was on there to stay until I got violent.