What's Up With My Ride Cymbal
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- In this lesson, I share what's up with my ride cymbal and how I fixed it. Learn about the dangers of transporting your cymbals on your bicycle.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:45 Gigging in Japan
2:25 How I fixed my cymbal
3:23 Why cymbal cracks are bad
5:12 Inside the Dremel Kit
7:30 Moral of the story and conclusion
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This story makes me realise that there are a lot of things in common between a bike and a drum set not to mention the pleasure (that often goes back to childhood) that we get from practicing both activities : the wheels are the cymbals; the pedals of the crank are the hi-hat and bass drum pedals; the left and right brake levers are the drumsticks; the seat is a drum throne; you also need rhythm and coordination in order to enjoy your ride and the same applies to playing your ride cymbal. I guess that the analogies could go on and on and I would not be surprise to learn that somewhere, a Zen or Buddhist philosopher already made connections between these two activities which give us so much happiness.
Gosh, I've never thought about all of that and here I've been wheeling around on my bike going to gigs for almost 8 years! Fun to read your comment. Keep swinging man 🤙
I've been riding a bicycle since the 1950's and I've been playing drums since the 1960's. They share the same rhythmic energy, much like slalom snow skiing that I do. The connection between all things with rhythm created by the body is amazing. I never thought about the connection before, but you make an excellent point that a Zen or Buddhist philosopher could expand on.
You gotta love how great the love for a particular cymbal is!. I bought a new set of Avedis cymbals in 1966 that I loved and hated.
The 19" medium ride was great for rock as a crash/ride. When I changed to playing jazz, I wanted a more musical sound and I immediately hated the wash and roar that made it great for rock.
The 14" thin hi hats were great for both, rock and jazz. I still have them today and they are still my favorite hi hats, especially for small venues.
I got rid of the crash/ride cymbal (replaced by Zildjian K's in different models) but I will never, ever get rid of my hi hats. (I also have some similar sounding heavier Zildjian K's) Even though they took a beating in my teenage years, they are still like new, with only a bit of satin patina.
Thank you for sharing your story.
Thanks for sharing your story too! Cymbals are so much a part of our drumming personality. I think even more so than the drums. It's great you have you hats. I also have some 13" K's that I got when I was 16 and still play them sometimes. Always great to connect my friend 🤙
Good subject Von and good advice re: the Dremel tool. I love the Model railroader reference because I had a twenty year career as a model maker and machinist in the LUCASFILM Industrial Light and Magic (ILM) model and creature shops where using the Dremel was a part of everyday life. In fact if you got a job there you were handed a "required tools" list and the Dremel was one of them. If you get the adjustable drill chuck accessory with it you now have a handy mini drill which you'll find useful too. Over the years I've seen many cracked cymbals due to different kinds of abuse like not having a rubber bushing on the stand resulting in a crack in the bell, or simply bashing too hard on a cymbal not designed for that volume. Another is the crack originating from a rivet hole and traveling along the lathe groove to the next rivet hole. I had a buddy who was a great jazz drummer in the S.F. Bay Area (Scott Morris) and he had a cymbal he loved suffering from this. It had this great bash of a sound but finally it bit the dust. One of the techniques for heading off a crack that's traveling along a groove is to head it off with a drill hole. On of the most important things about drilling holes in cymbals is to "deburr" the hole which is to say, remove the sharp corners along the edge of the hole with a countersink tool by hand-spinning it in the hole. That sharp corner is where a potential crack will start because it has very little surface area and is therefore weak. The same concept would apply to any repair effort; so introducing a radius to remove sharp or angular features in the damage is key to success. Also if you're going to rivet a cymbal, doing it with a drill press, a brand new drill bit, and a supporting piece of wood to drill into, reduces the "break through catch" where upon breaking through, the drill uses the "chip" as a thread in a screw-like manner. This causes a loss of control usually with the cymbal lifting up and twisting a small chunk out of the hole. This would be the potential beginning of a crack(s). Another tip is when laying out your rivet holes, first determine (on the cymbal stand ) where 12 o'clock is on your cymbal. If you tilt the stand top in an extreme angle and spin it , see where it wants to be. Then drill your holes in the 12 o'clock area where you are least likely to be playing the cymbal, thus ensuring you won't be bashing on a compromised area of the cymbal...your drill holes.
Wow! A Dremel expert in the house! As you could tell, I'm a hack but it sounds like you could do a full on training! What a cool career. What were some of the movies you worked on???
I did know that drilling a hole might work too but I definitely don't have the expertise you have and probably would have trashed my cymbal 🤪 Your advice and explanation here are so on point for this video. Thanks for taking the time to write it all out. Maybe you could do a video and post on UA-cam!
Keep swinging my friend 🤙
Mystery solved. Thanks Von!
Thanks for the inspiration to make the video!
Bungee failure is a when not an if unfortunately
LOL! Yes indeed! You speak from experience. Keep swinging man 🤙