They had a crash in the Alpha series that had holes. It was called a Swiss Crash. I use one regularly. They have since moved that to the PSTX range. They sound awesome.
I was a sound tech for a church band that played at camps and retreats and stuff and the day they brought these low volume cymbals with their kit, I immediately loved them. No feedback issues on lead vocals, no overpowering the room with them, it was great. At first I thought they were super weird compared to usual cymbals but instantly found out why small stage bands and A1s like using them.
@@paramourcat I wish our churches had bands with drums and stuff! Unfortunately the churches around here are Christian and any kind of rock or pop music is a sin, so no bands for me haha 🌈
Wade touched on something super important for any musician - being able to hear the sound you want to produce in your head. The better and clearer you can imagine the note you want to sing/play, the better it'll come out - if you've put the practice and trust your technique.
The trust is very important, but lots of people will trust wrong. Trust in your ability to achieve it, never that you are good enough (sounds counter intuitive, but perfection is impossible and trying to achieve it is a sisyphean task)
@@vandread Good point, rings true from my experience as a guitarist. Plenty of people who don't think they can play a song (usually one that sounds more complex than it is) because they think they're not good enough, but who also don't practice anything beyond the point of being able to do it once. I think a lot of people are pretty anxious at the prospect of actually analysing the bad points of their own technique regardless of craft/instrument, the really great artists are people who've practiced their instrument to a truly impressive degree and who can analyse their weak points and work to compensate for them. Its hard work learning an instrument, a lot of people think that great players making it look easy means it should be easy. Most people I've practiced or had music lessons with don't understand that practicing something AFTER you've got the basic idea down pat is just as if not more important than rote copying.
This works for cooking too... If you know where you want to go. And know what to mix. And how certain spices blend together. You get there. It's so weird.
I imagine they're probably really good for that low volume drumming that goes along with smooth bar jazz, a suuper soft ride symbal just sounds so good
I use these often, they’re great and really warm but bad for that funky sound, they make a thicker stainless steal version that is the perfect mix of soft and hard imo
Came across a cover of a song that used these cymbals. The guy was in like a typical NY apartment so i was shocked to see him actually playing. Apparently they also make low noise kits and everything. Super cool actually.
Yeah I just purchased some evans db ones because I live in a condo and they're super quiet, mixed with the Ls I can play without annoying my neighbours too much. It still makes noise so you have to be a bit careful about when you play and/or use some soundproofing but all in all, they're amazing if you aren't able to play a normal loud kit and don't want to use electrics
They're pretty great for practice in general, the lower volume of the cymbals kinda helps pick out good or bad details in your playing of the actual drums. Added to the fact they don't irritate the neighbours as much they're a great idea for beginners. Probably still need decent earplugs though, might just be the ones I have but they're certainly loud enough to a c t i v a t e t h e t i n n i t u s
Honestly, I know you said these sounded bad, but when you did the demo with them I just kinda fell in love with the sound. Having a quiet cymbal REALLY emphasized the drum hits in a way that I've never heard before. If I ever get back into drumming I might have to save up for a pack of those.
I'm the drummer and sound tech for my church and I love these. I really had to hold back to not overpower the other musicians and the room in general. With these and some Remo Silent Stroke I can focus on just playing without worrying about being too loud. And it certainly beats being trapped behind one of those plexiglass screens 😄
these cymbals came in clutch practicing in my quintet in a pretty small rehearsal space. Also sounded pretty cool when layered on top of normal cymbals
Hi Wade, I recently played with a guy who had symbals that were embedded with metal parts that reverberated with the cymbals to create a unique and long sound. Would love to see a video about these! Love the videos btw
A practice studio I go to sometimes has one, strange sounds fantastic, somewhere between an open hi hat and ride. Sorta crashy but not really, just lots of extra noise. I think that one was originally a light or medium ride
Rivets are cool, but I prefer to just drape chains over the cymbals. Different types of chains make very different adjustments to the sound. For really subtle (my usual go to) I like to attach an inch or so of 2mm dog tag chain to some string and hang it off the center post of the cymbal stand so the chain is close to the edge of the cymbal
i snagged a bunch of these off facebook marketplace for a steal and they've been a friggen god send for me and my tiny flat. I've got em set up in my lounge with a practice kick pad and and pad sitting on top of my snare and I'm practicing a thousand times more because its just so easy to have them there and jump on anytime. Would recommend for apartment dwellers
These actually aren't really bad for my trypophobia. It usually only gets set off by non-uniform sets of holes, in terms of both spacing and size. All these are very organised/patterened, so they don't trigger it at all really.
I have very mild trypophobia so I've never really looked into what triggers it or not but this makes a lot of sense to me since these also don't trigger it.
Over here in the US we have these potato chips called Munchos. They’re known for being THIN and AIRY and ,Often times, they’re translucent. These Cymbals remind me of Munchos.
Thank you for telling me about this, I'd wondered if America had anything like Quavers (which are a UK thing but also a Walkers/Frito-lay product) and, yep, Munches look pretty much identical. Probably different flavours though, I've never seen a Quaver be anything other than cheese flavour, whereas I'm seeing quite a few different flavours of Munchos in this image search. Which sounds better honestly.
I loved working with these when I was teaching music. All the replication of technique and feeling, but way less cacophony from rooms on top of each other. These mitigate the overwhelm of "there's 4 drum lessons going on right next to each other" A LOT. I adore them. They're great.
They actually sound like they would be great for layering on top of drum recordings. like adding them for some "fizz" or "shine" to brighten some other cymbals. Kind of how on Rust In Peace, the engineer dynamically added white noise to the cymbals to really fill out that space and add the illusion of definition.
I really like the low volume stuff that has been coming out from various companies the last couple of years. These cymbals paired with mesh heads are an apartment drummer's dream. I've even seen guys use the low volume cymbals in stacks which is probably the only scenario in which they could get used in a live setting.
i have a low volume set. evans DB1 heads and cymbals. actually sounds really good for what it is, and feels just like a real kit. ton of fun with triggers too. would really recc the DB1 mesh heads, with some reso head tuning they are real nice.
It's actually remarkable how quiet these things are... Thank you for re-rolling for 2 so we could see this Also thanks for the videos! Definitely my favorite drumtuber
Not only practice - I've heard about people, who play unplugged gigs in small cafes with this type of cymbals, so they are not overcrashing acoustic guitars. I guess, cajon with low volume cymbals can do the job for a lot of acoustic bands
Zildjian actually made a set of these, before the L80s came out, which were specifically designed for electronic drum kits. They were called Gen 16, and they came with a special base which would take the place of the bottom felt and act as the trigger. I believe it came out in the early 2010s, and I remember them being quite expensive. I can't vouch for how well they worked, but it's a neat concept nonetheless.
I just found this and man this was so helpful. We are currently playing with an electronic kit due to excessive noise and the small space we have to work with, but damn these seem like a great option
I use a set of these for practice alongside the Remo Silenstroke heads on the kit. After adding some gaff tape to the heads they don't sound half bad (still low volume), I can practice without needing hearing protection past earbuds and without deafening my housemates :)
Great show on the low volume cymbals. I have priced them, and you are so correct. They are quite pricey. I love your videos, and I thank you for sharing all of them with all of us.
I never knew these existed. I have been thinking about getting into drumming for quite some time, a couple of my friends who are musicians/studying music in uni thought I legit play because of my 'stick' technique (I often find myself air drumming with the hand fans I always carry), however I am very very sensitive to noise a so even with ear protection I'd have difficulties being that close to the sound of cymbal crashes. Had I known these existed I probably would have gotten into drumming years ago, I'd definitely be looking into an electric kit before I would consider splurging on those cymbals but the real feel of drums and cymbals is what really draws me to the instrument.
This is making me think back to when I was trying to get into drums as a smaller me. I wasn't particularly into music to begin with, still am not really a music person, but back then my musical taste was basically just the Ocarina of Time soundtrack and two songs from the radio at the time. And my parents were like, you should be an instrument. I'm like what why. They say I should!! I'm all okay. Which one do you want me to be? And somehow we settled on drums and before I knew it we were in a music store and I was being bought a drum thing and had lessons. And within about five weeks my parents were like "drums are loud, did you know that? can you not" and I'm like "what. you wanted this not me" And they got me dampening pads to put on the drums so it would no longer be loud and that just killed what little fun I was having to begin with so I stopped playing entirely and two years later my parents sold it all for a fraction of what they paid. These practice guys probably would have made a ton more sense and I might have kept at it. Probably not, I wasn't into music, and my teacher was just some guy who got frustrated with me not understanding basic concepts that he had no idea how to explain. The teacher was an awful fit for me, it was never gonna click, but the damp pads made me not even like trying at all anymore.
When i was going to lessons at a small music shop they had these with muffles on all the drums to help the drum lessons not overpower the entire building so that people could still shop and get other lessons in other rooms. They were great! Really fun to play on and way quieter
I actually got to try these in a music store in Gothenburg. It wasn't just the cymbals, but everything else were quiet versions too and it was really cool.
I love my set, got them from the music store I taught and worked at for years when they went under, they say DEMO across them in big block letters its great! Of course for practice they are excellent, but we also found them super useful when running a blues jam at a cafe, we could have 'real' drums and as long as you played the rest of the kit appropriately people could still chat over coffee.
We use them at the music store I work at. They're designed to feel similar to the ones that aren't perferated but way quieter. It's great because in the lessons section we have usually 5 or 6 kids all playing the drums at the same time with no sound insulation.
When I was learning drums, my studio switched from suppressed drums (kick full of pillows, rubber mats on the heads), but they switched to these AND mesh drum heads that make less noise as well. I still have never found a better to play snare. The mesh acted like a trampoline and I could play so fast it was amazing. Now I have my own real drumset with cymbals that make noise
when i got my first lessons on drums, the kit at the store had these on them. I'd been playing for little over a month on an e-kit with those rubber cymbals... I couldn't tell you how happy i was practicing on these for the first time, like stupid happy. I love drums, and cymbals for that matter
I've used these for live sets before and they're amazing. Not only do I think they simply sound great, but for intimate venues they allow you to be a more dynamic and expressive without making all the eardrums in the room bleed. They have many more use cases than simply quieter practice.
I use these at home, they are awesome with mesh heads i can play my kit and not annoy the neighbours. Can also jam at home and not have to book out a rehearsal space which cost money (not to include petrol/ time etc), they paid for themselves in a few months. Love them.
I started teaching drums recently and needed to put a kit together to learn on (I'm a bassist so have to learn as I teach lmao). Had to do extensive research into all the available options for a quiet drum rig, didn't have the money or time for trial and error. Ended up getting some cheapo Yamaha shells from ol mate Cashies and replaced the heads with Remo Silentstrokes. Worked out perfect because they feel exactly like the meshes on the Roland TD-1s that the music school uses. Then copped some cheap "low volume" hats made of steel that were still super loud. I have to play them with an oven mitt over them, looped around the stand so it doesn't fall off. Kind of approximates Roland's rubber cymbals so works okay. After that mistake I knew I couldn't get around paying the big money for the Zildjian crash-ride. Had to get it by itself because packs were sold out everywhere at the time. I like ride cymbals in general and it's worth every cent tbh. Bell sounds a bit weird but so does the whole kit because of the meshes. It's a vibe. I've also added a cowbell with a handsewn felt mute to go with the oven mitt hi-hat. It's absolutely giggable tbh, I took it to a jazz jam last month as its first outing and it sounded great in a tiny, echoey room.
I watched this video a while back when it came out, I started taking drum lessons outside of school for the first time this summer and my drum teacher has these cymbals on his student drumset, he was super surprised when I recognized them immediately.
my drum teacher uses them with low volume drum heads which work’s amazing because you get the feeling of drums and drum heads but it’s quieter, which is perfect for smaller rooms/practicing
I remember when zildjian came out with the Z cymbals that where virtually soundless, that you could hook up to a trigger and then have any cymbal sound you wanted, I was working at a drum store at the time and yea it was pretty cool! The cymbals looked like these but they where grey
I have a set of silent stroke heads on my kit alongside some low volume cymbals. Lets me practice in my unit block without being too much a nuisance and I don't need to have an electronic kit. The sound of the mesh heads is about the same as the 'shhhhymbals' in that you loose a lot of volume and tone, but it feels a bit more like playing an actual acoustic kit which I dig very much.
These things were on a drum kit in the drum room at a Guitar Center I was in once. I jammed on them a bit and thought they sounded hideous. Like banging drum sticks on a mesh wire fence
I started drumming about 2 years ago now and my kit only came with 4 total cymbals, a hi-hat set, a single cracked hi-hat top, and a small spray painted cymbal. I ended up getting a set of low volume ones an online auction site for $35 with local pickup. I couldn't even get one cymbal for $35 and given how my kit is in the basement, which gives a lot echo, the low volume ones actually sound so good.
I have a low volume set from RECH, an aussie cymbal brand. I actually love the crash and ride but not crazy for the hi hats and china personally. That said they are PERFECT for home practice, definately can get away with practicing at more hours of the day thanks to them .
the holes make them aerodynamic
They're speed holes, they make the drummer play faster
Even though holes cause turbulence in the air
Just like Tony !
@@AndreasHolmgren actually hilarious lol
Like the ones in the floor of the ‘98 Polo my mate Steve has?
imagine if Paiste made low volume cymbals with holes in them -- then they'd be called "Swiss cymbals" :^)
Swymbals
Emmental Cymbals
They had a crash in the Alpha series that had holes. It was called a Swiss Crash. I use one regularly. They have since moved that to the PSTX range. They sound awesome.
@@UnnamedThe thank you
Ironically enough, i have a Paste PSTX Swiss Crash
I was a sound tech for a church band that played at camps and retreats and stuff and the day they brought these low volume cymbals with their kit, I immediately loved them. No feedback issues on lead vocals, no overpowering the room with them, it was great. At first I thought they were super weird compared to usual cymbals but instantly found out why small stage bands and A1s like using them.
we use these for a church setting as well, way easier to control the sound without having to resort as much to stuffing the drummer inside of a box
@@paramourcat Did you put the drummer in the confessional booth?
@@aerchys4779 Father forgive me, for i have Lars Ulrich'd my snare.
They're also great for churches because they're holey.
@@paramourcat I wish our churches had bands with drums and stuff! Unfortunately the churches around here are Christian and any kind of rock or pop music is a sin, so no bands for me haha 🌈
Wade touched on something super important for any musician - being able to hear the sound you want to produce in your head.
The better and clearer you can imagine the note you want to sing/play, the better it'll come out - if you've put the practice and trust your technique.
This goes for singing too!
Also applicable for dynamics/rhythm/style on piano
The trust is very important, but lots of people will trust wrong. Trust in your ability to achieve it, never that you are good enough (sounds counter intuitive, but perfection is impossible and trying to achieve it is a sisyphean task)
@@vandread Good point, rings true from my experience as a guitarist.
Plenty of people who don't think they can play a song (usually one that sounds more complex than it is) because they think they're not good enough, but who also don't practice anything beyond the point of being able to do it once.
I think a lot of people are pretty anxious at the prospect of actually analysing the bad points of their own technique regardless of craft/instrument, the really great artists are people who've practiced their instrument to a truly impressive degree and who can analyse their weak points and work to compensate for them. Its hard work learning an instrument, a lot of people think that great players making it look easy means it should be easy.
Most people I've practiced or had music lessons with don't understand that practicing something AFTER you've got the basic idea down pat is just as if not more important than rote copying.
This works for cooking too... If you know where you want to go. And know what to mix. And how certain spices blend together. You get there. It's so weird.
I imagine they're probably really good for that low volume drumming that goes along with smooth bar jazz, a suuper soft ride symbal just sounds so good
I actually met a guy who did exactly that. Had a small kit set up for low volume jazz gigs at restaurants.
I use these often, they’re great and really warm but bad for that funky sound, they make a thicker stainless steal version that is the perfect mix of soft and hard imo
Came across a cover of a song that used these cymbals. The guy was in like a typical NY apartment so i was shocked to see him actually playing. Apparently they also make low noise kits and everything. Super cool actually.
Yeah I just purchased some evans db ones because I live in a condo and they're super quiet, mixed with the Ls I can play without annoying my neighbours too much. It still makes noise so you have to be a bit careful about when you play and/or use some soundproofing but all in all, they're amazing if you aren't able to play a normal loud kit and don't want to use electrics
They're pretty great for practice in general, the lower volume of the cymbals kinda helps pick out good or bad details in your playing of the actual drums. Added to the fact they don't irritate the neighbours as much they're a great idea for beginners. Probably still need decent earplugs though, might just be the ones I have but they're certainly loud enough to a c t i v a t e t h e t i n n i t u s
"Low volume" is RIGHT! These mfs couldn't displace ANY water!
Honestly, I know you said these sounded bad, but when you did the demo with them I just kinda fell in love with the sound. Having a quiet cymbal REALLY emphasized the drum hits in a way that I've never heard before. If I ever get back into drumming I might have to save up for a pack of those.
Yea they sound dope. I prefer them over the other ones he used.
I loved them so much i bought an acoustic drumkit along with these cymbals.
At this rate, this channel should be Called “the Cymbal Thing”
the channel image is a cymbal so I think it's a drummer thing, they call themselves drummers but they are in fact mostly cymbalists
Man the drumming and the mixing is great, putting the W in Wade
These cymbals look like a hole lotta fun!
They create an incredibly transparent sound too
I See What You Did There
I'm the drummer and sound tech for my church and I love these.
I really had to hold back to not overpower the other musicians and the room in general.
With these and some Remo Silent Stroke I can focus on just playing without worrying about being too loud.
And it certainly beats being trapped behind one of those plexiglass screens 😄
Oooh, the Shhymbals!
1:23 The entire internet now knows of my oracle-like abilities to guess the number on a die.
I genuinely didn’t realize how quiet these were until this video, and I’ve watched so many streams 😂
these cymbals came in clutch practicing in my quintet in a pretty small rehearsal space. Also sounded pretty cool when layered on top of normal cymbals
1:51 for anyone wondering, the song is called Knights of Cydonia, it's just some weird 8-bit remix I've never heard of before.
I picked up on it being Knights of Cydonia but I like the 8bit remix. not sure which one it is though :(
@@Dee-jn6wr I think it's 8 bit misfits.
I just assumed it was a MIDI version to avoid being copyright blocked, Muse tends to do that
NO ONES GONNA TAKE ME ALIIIIIIIIIIVE!
By a mile the best song I’ve ever heard played live
Hi Wade, I recently played with a guy who had symbals that were embedded with metal parts that reverberated with the cymbals to create a unique and long sound. Would love to see a video about these!
Love the videos btw
Look up rdavidr. He has a video on cymbal rivets, or two.
A practice studio I go to sometimes has one, strange sounds fantastic, somewhere between an open hi hat and ride. Sorta crashy but not really, just lots of extra noise. I think that one was originally a light or medium ride
Rivets are cool, but I prefer to just drape chains over the cymbals. Different types of chains make very different adjustments to the sound. For really subtle (my usual go to) I like to attach an inch or so of 2mm dog tag chain to some string and hang it off the center post of the cymbal stand so the chain is close to the edge of the cymbal
*cymbals
Love your vids, they inspired me to play drums again after like 3 years. Keep up the good stuff!
i snagged a bunch of these off facebook marketplace for a steal and they've been a friggen god send for me and my tiny flat. I've got em set up in my lounge with a practice kick pad and and pad sitting on top of my snare and I'm practicing a thousand times more because its just so easy to have them there and jump on anytime. Would recommend for apartment dwellers
These actually aren't really bad for my trypophobia. It usually only gets set off by non-uniform sets of holes, in terms of both spacing and size. All these are very organised/patterened, so they don't trigger it at all really.
True
same, very regular patterns don't really bother me at all
I have very mild trypophobia so I've never really looked into what triggers it or not but this makes a lot of sense to me since these also don't trigger it.
Yep, for me the holes to have to be organic looking.
For me it's how much perceived depth the holes have. These cymbals are thin and have no real depth so I have no issue with them personally.
Oh shit I actually really dig how the quiet cymbals sound.
Over here in the US we have these potato chips called Munchos.
They’re known for being THIN and AIRY and ,Often times, they’re translucent.
These Cymbals remind me of Munchos.
Thank you for telling me about this, I'd wondered if America had anything like Quavers (which are a UK thing but also a Walkers/Frito-lay product) and, yep, Munches look pretty much identical. Probably different flavours though, I've never seen a Quaver be anything other than cheese flavour, whereas I'm seeing quite a few different flavours of Munchos in this image search. Which sounds better honestly.
I loved working with these when I was teaching music. All the replication of technique and feeling, but way less cacophony from rooms on top of each other. These mitigate the overwhelm of "there's 4 drum lessons going on right next to each other" A LOT. I adore them. They're great.
They actually sound like they would be great for layering on top of drum recordings. like adding them for some "fizz" or "shine" to brighten some other cymbals. Kind of how on Rust In Peace, the engineer dynamically added white noise to the cymbals to really fill out that space and add the illusion of definition.
I really like the low volume stuff that has been coming out from various companies the last couple of years. These cymbals paired with mesh heads are an apartment drummer's dream. I've even seen guys use the low volume cymbals in stacks which is probably the only scenario in which they could get used in a live setting.
I work in a music store and these shhymbals are perfect for tiny lesson rooms. Also, nice one-handed breakdown at the end
I’ve seen people play these with piezoelectric triggers attached and then sent to electronic drum pad. Worked great.
i have a low volume set. evans DB1 heads and cymbals. actually sounds really good for what it is, and feels just like a real kit. ton of fun with triggers too.
would really recc the DB1 mesh heads, with some reso head tuning they are real nice.
It's actually remarkable how quiet these things are... Thank you for re-rolling for 2 so we could see this
Also thanks for the videos! Definitely my favorite drumtuber
Not only practice - I've heard about people, who play unplugged gigs in small cafes with this type of cymbals, so they are not overcrashing acoustic guitars. I guess, cajon with low volume cymbals can do the job for a lot of acoustic bands
This things inspire me to build a cleric character in DnD that carries one of the tinier pieces in this practice set, and call it his Holey Cymbal
it makes me so unbelievably happy to see you upload c:
I play those, I miss the sound of normal ones but my neighbours dont
Honestly, fantastic for churches where often the sound team doesn't quite have the skills to combat cymbal bleed.
YEEEEE GET IN THERE MATEE
Cheers man, what I learn from you is great.
I really love. They give the sound such a great vibe to it.
whoa those were trippy cool to look at. Thank you for sharing some crazy cymbals!
Ive played with these symbals at guitar center and they are so cool, they feel amazing and have so much rebound. Awesome!
They honestly sound amazing.
I've played these before and I actually love them they're so fun to play
Thanks Wade, great video. Had a lotta fun and learned something new
Zildjian actually made a set of these, before the L80s came out, which were specifically designed for electronic drum kits. They were called Gen 16, and they came with a special base which would take the place of the bottom felt and act as the trigger. I believe it came out in the early 2010s, and I remember them being quite expensive. I can't vouch for how well they worked, but it's a neat concept nonetheless.
I just found this and man this was so helpful. We are currently playing with an electronic kit due to excessive noise and the small space we have to work with, but damn these seem like a great option
The band room at my school has an entire drumkit with these and the foam heads. They work quite well, actually.
This video is very thematic since im watching it at like 5 in the morning and you released it at about 4 in the morning here in Pennsylvania lol
You don't know how much I love these videos
I use a set of these for practice alongside the Remo Silenstroke heads on the kit. After adding some gaff tape to the heads they don't sound half bad (still low volume), I can practice without needing hearing protection past earbuds and without deafening my housemates :)
I love that you have Scott Joplin's Elite Syncopations in the background, it's one of my favorite piano pieces :)
That’s fascinating!!
I never knew such things existed!
Great show on the low volume cymbals. I have priced them, and you are so correct. They are quite pricey.
I love your videos, and I thank you for sharing all of them with all of us.
I never knew these existed.
I have been thinking about getting into drumming for quite some time, a couple of my friends who are musicians/studying music in uni thought I legit play because of my 'stick' technique (I often find myself air drumming with the hand fans I always carry), however I am very very sensitive to noise a so even with ear protection I'd have difficulties being that close to the sound of cymbal crashes.
Had I known these existed I probably would have gotten into drumming years ago, I'd definitely be looking into an electric kit before I would consider splurging on those cymbals but the real feel of drums and cymbals is what really draws me to the instrument.
Thank you for the information
gotta love a new drum thing video
Finally taking the car salesman advice with speed holes
This is making me think back to when I was trying to get into drums as a smaller me. I wasn't particularly into music to begin with, still am not really a music person, but back then my musical taste was basically just the Ocarina of Time soundtrack and two songs from the radio at the time. And my parents were like, you should be an instrument. I'm like what why. They say I should!! I'm all okay. Which one do you want me to be? And somehow we settled on drums and before I knew it we were in a music store and I was being bought a drum thing and had lessons. And within about five weeks my parents were like "drums are loud, did you know that? can you not" and I'm like "what. you wanted this not me"
And they got me dampening pads to put on the drums so it would no longer be loud and that just killed what little fun I was having to begin with so I stopped playing entirely and two years later my parents sold it all for a fraction of what they paid.
These practice guys probably would have made a ton more sense and I might have kept at it. Probably not, I wasn't into music, and my teacher was just some guy who got frustrated with me not understanding basic concepts that he had no idea how to explain. The teacher was an awful fit for me, it was never gonna click, but the damp pads made me not even like trying at all anymore.
When i was going to lessons at a small music shop they had these with muffles on all the drums to help the drum lessons not overpower the entire building so that people could still shop and get other lessons in other rooms. They were great! Really fun to play on and way quieter
This is such an underrated content creator
I got these. Along with the remo silent-strokes They’re great for apartment playing
that knights of Cydonia cover/version is awesome
I actually got to try these in a music store in Gothenburg. It wasn't just the cymbals, but everything else were quiet versions too and it was really cool.
I love my set, got them from the music store I taught and worked at for years when they went under, they say DEMO across them in big block letters its great! Of course for practice they are excellent, but we also found them super useful when running a blues jam at a cafe, we could have 'real' drums and as long as you played the rest of the kit appropriately people could still chat over coffee.
We use them at the music store I work at. They're designed to feel similar to the ones that aren't perferated but way quieter. It's great because in the lessons section we have usually 5 or 6 kids all playing the drums at the same time with no sound insulation.
I love the pure joy(?) on 'ol mates face when he drums 🥹
When I was learning drums, my studio switched from suppressed drums (kick full of pillows, rubber mats on the heads), but they switched to these AND mesh drum heads that make less noise as well. I still have never found a better to play snare. The mesh acted like a trampoline and I could play so fast it was amazing. Now I have my own real drumset with cymbals that make noise
these sound like real cymbals, just quieter.
now we need low volume drums to complete the set.
This is the most amazing thing i've witnessed. I personally hate cymbals but to add tones i'd like to have them still. These are just perfect.
I was super impressed by how low the volume was out of these.
when i got my first lessons on drums, the kit at the store had these on them. I'd been playing for little over a month on an e-kit with those rubber cymbals... I couldn't tell you how happy i was practicing on these for the first time, like stupid happy. I love drums, and cymbals for that matter
I love seeing Wayde's face when he goes to town on the drums. This is a man that has a blast doing his dream job.
I had a whole perforated kit once, it was awesome! It was a tiny kit with perforated heads as well
Knights of Cambodia was our marching show last year.
Dope af
Awesome FEENGUZ action!! 😎👍
I have them, I use them for a busking kit, they work really great for it.
I've used these for live sets before and they're amazing. Not only do I think they simply sound great, but for intimate venues they allow you to be a more dynamic and expressive without making all the eardrums in the room bleed. They have many more use cases than simply quieter practice.
I use these at home, they are awesome with mesh heads i can play my kit and not annoy the neighbours. Can also jam at home and not have to book out a rehearsal space which cost money (not to include petrol/ time etc), they paid for themselves in a few months. Love them.
I’m actually amazed as to how the camera can capture so much of the holes of the symbol at once without losing much detail
I randomly got recc'd this video and I thought the thumbnail was just an amalgam of cymbals melted together 💀
I started teaching drums recently and needed to put a kit together to learn on (I'm a bassist so have to learn as I teach lmao).
Had to do extensive research into all the available options for a quiet drum rig, didn't have the money or time for trial and error.
Ended up getting some cheapo Yamaha shells from ol mate Cashies and replaced the heads with Remo Silentstrokes. Worked out perfect because they feel exactly like the meshes on the Roland TD-1s that the music school uses.
Then copped some cheap "low volume" hats made of steel that were still super loud. I have to play them with an oven mitt over them, looped around the stand so it doesn't fall off. Kind of approximates Roland's rubber cymbals so works okay.
After that mistake I knew I couldn't get around paying the big money for the Zildjian crash-ride. Had to get it by itself because packs were sold out everywhere at the time. I like ride cymbals in general and it's worth every cent tbh. Bell sounds a bit weird but so does the whole kit because of the meshes. It's a vibe.
I've also added a cowbell with a handsewn felt mute to go with the oven mitt hi-hat.
It's absolutely giggable tbh, I took it to a jazz jam last month as its first outing and it sounded great in a tiny, echoey room.
Love the 8 bit style knights of cydonia
i wasn't expecting to hear knights of cydonia, but it does make an excellent before and after
in addition to practice, I could imagine these would be pretty cool for songs that focus more on the drums than cymbals.
I watched this video a while back when it came out, I started taking drum lessons outside of school for the first time this summer and my drum teacher has these cymbals on his student drumset, he was super surprised when I recognized them immediately.
my drum teacher uses them with low volume drum heads which work’s amazing because you get the feeling of drums and drum heads but it’s quieter, which is perfect for smaller rooms/practicing
Having used these before they sound incredible.
Low volume cymbals are perfect for a recording studio.
I have one of the silver zildjian drilled hat tops paired with a regular heavy bottom, and it's delicious. Also ear piercing loud and crispy.
Damn you killed Knights of Cydonia, that was one of the first songs I ever learned on drums
this is the earliest ive ever been to a upload
My drum teacher has some that ive been using for a while, they are great for practice and small rooms!
I remember when zildjian came out with the Z cymbals that where virtually soundless, that you could hook up to a trigger and then have any cymbal sound you wanted, I was working at a drum store at the time and yea it was pretty cool! The cymbals looked like these but they where grey
I have a set of silent stroke heads on my kit alongside some low volume cymbals. Lets me practice in my unit block without being too much a nuisance and I don't need to have an electronic kit.
The sound of the mesh heads is about the same as the 'shhhhymbals' in that you loose a lot of volume and tone, but it feels a bit more like playing an actual acoustic kit which I dig very much.
Oooo, there's a lot of applications for those, i would really love some.
I definitely need loud ones, but there's plenty to do with some of those.
My friend has this same setup and they sound fantastic.
These things were on a drum kit in the drum room at a Guitar Center I was in once. I jammed on them a bit and thought they sounded hideous. Like banging drum sticks on a mesh wire fence
I started drumming about 2 years ago now and my kit only came with 4 total cymbals, a hi-hat set, a single cracked hi-hat top, and a small spray painted cymbal. I ended up getting a set of low volume ones an online auction site for $35 with local pickup. I couldn't even get one cymbal for $35 and given how my kit is in the basement, which gives a lot echo, the low volume ones actually sound so good.
These work even better when paired with low volume heads like the Remo silent stroke.
I have a low volume set from RECH, an aussie cymbal brand. I actually love the crash and ride but not crazy for the hi hats and china personally. That said they are PERFECT for home practice, definately can get away with practicing at more hours of the day thanks to them .
I have a small set of these and they’re honestly pretty great in terms of noise and feel
i hate small holes clustered together
but i must persevere, for the dankness!
I kinda like how the sticks hitting the cymbals are more audible