TAFFY-TASTIC NIGHTMARE FUEL Coraline Explained - Scene 32 | The Fangirl Scene-ic Saturdays
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2024
- Other Miss Spink and Other Miss Forcible have one of the ghost kids' souls, and they're not letting Coraline take it without a big fight with bat dogs!
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I know that she's a spider and the house is the other mothers web, but I also like the idea that the limbo pink palace serves as a pitcher plant. Once the fly enters it due to the sticky sweet sap; the plant closes and the insect is slowly digested. Best part, some spiders make there home in pitcher plants!!!! Spiders can also be digested if the pitcher plants is hungry as well.
I can't believe this series is almost over. :( These videos are my favorite way to start my Saturdays
There's still at least a month left! Usually I write 4-5 pages per scene, and the one I wrote yesterday on Coraline's final showdown with the Other Mother was 7 pages (before adding in the comment responses) so there is still a TON to talk about between now and then!
@@TheFangirlWatchesI remember you mentioning doing other movies. Maybe you could do other ones like Coraline after this. I mean, if you come up with another video idea for Coraline, I’m THERE. But I think since [it seems to me like from what you’ve said in passing] a significant portion of your long-term audience is Coraline-related, that if you could branch out just slightly to touch other movies the same people are interested in, that you’d have success in some other topics.
I won’t lie-Coraline is on a tier of its own for me, since I can watch it over and over without growing bored of it. That being said, there are a handful of other movies I group with Coraline in my mind: The Corpse Bride, ParaNorman, Nightmare BC, and Frankenweenie. So, other stop motion creepy-ish stuff. I think Coraline stands alone because it’s hard to make something truly scary but still for kids. But I like all these movies a lot and would watch content on them. The Laika movies would be good, even ones I didn’t mention, since they’ve said everything is for a reason. But maybe all stop-motion movies are 🤷🏻
@@TheFangirlWatcheshas anyone else noticed the other mother and corallines real mom look nothing alike cause I have
I always assumed that the reason for 1 eye was because eyes are the window to the soul and you only have 1 soul, this isin't Harry Potter you can't split a soul
The flashlight Coraline finds is the same that one of the dogs uses to guide her to her seat on the theatre.
I mean, to the hot chocolate at breakfast thing. She gets mango smoothie for dinner. I think this is just a childs imaginary wishes being granted
It would be interesting if this story is an example of what happens when children die. They’re unaware of their death and instead go through some kind of fever dream adventure where they get to face danger and overcome it. This introduces them to the oddities of the Spirit World but also helps them discover how strong and brave they are so it’s not so scary. After a few more adventures, when they’re ready, they piece together that they are in the After World. It still hurts, but it’s much more manageable than the trauma of realizing all that the moment they die and then having to navigate a terrifying new world all alone.
I think that it’s been decades since the bedlam had a meal (the grandmother is an old lady now and was a little kid when her sister went missing) so what ever she feeds on she’d be starving and probably running low on magic. I think that’s why everything turns grey because she’s borrowing the soul magic to power each part of the other world since she doesn’t have the magic reserves herself.
It’s also possible that some of her creations / puppets have souls in them to power them hence the reason that the other father and possibly wybie try and help Coraline at times which is against the bedlam’s wishes. I think if the other father is powered by a soul it could be the soul of a father of one of the bedlam’s victims that found a way into the other world and went looking for his child. Alternatively both creations could even have a previous child’s soul (or part of one) and that’s why their personality’s are inconsistent not because they are directly controlled by the bedlam but psychologically the children would be scared of her and worried what she might do to them or their families (they might not know how much time has passed since they were taken) if they don’t obey her so they mostly do what she says but when they are alone with Coraline that’s when their true nature comes out and that’s why the other father tries to warn Coraline and doesn’t want to hurt her and why wybie tries to free her!
9:47 The buttons on their eyes changed to black when they became younger.
As a kid, I always thought the taffy women yelled please not thief. I just misheard. I think it was very resourceful of Coraline to think of the flashlight and dogs and throw it.
To be fair to younger you, they are screaming over top of each other and it's very hard to hear.
Fungirl!and the patterns on the walls in the theater are something reminiscent of festive dresses
Also hot chocolate is an, ‘any time you so desire’ drink to me 😭🤣
The tapping on the button could be 'this will be you soon' like you will have these buttons soon
Everything at the end of coralina is nightmare fuel but I love it
This final act is horrific! Like, a true monster dreamt this up and packaged it for children! 😂
@@TheFangirlWatches agreed
About the clothes, i think maybe since she stole her parents maybe she can make the clothes appear everywhere cause magic. Maybe its not that she replace it everytime but she makes it appear cause she already have them trapped somewhere so she knows what are they wearing.
The parents could have multiple pairs of the same clothes if they were really cheap, possibly in a set. They do seem to be struggling with money. Although that wouldn't explain the extra glasses since those tend to be a bit pricey
Could be an old pair that he had to replace due a new subscription.
I always come back here for nostalgia and the yearly Coralie rewatch
Thank you for that!
I don't think the taffy ladies are different versions of other miss spink and forcible because we already saw in the box scene, that the beldam can change the colour of the buttons without even touching them!
I was gonna say how it could just be because characters in animation tend to have multiples of the same outfit, but since this is stop motion. It wouldn't matter. They don't have to worry about drawing the models. They can switch there clothes as much as they want. Maybe Mel just got a good deal with a certain brand 🤔
If coraline's parents are anything like me, they have multiple of the same clothes because they can't be bothered to think about what to wear
Or there was a sale 😭🤣
I didn’t realize the old ladies were taffy, can’t believe I missed that!
Guess I am the weirdo who always buys multiple of the dresses I like (sometimes in a different color, sometimes the same exact one). This way I have the exact style I like and can just change up my look with accessories.
I have always suspected thay taffy Forcible and Spink were not the same Forcible and Spink we see previously. I also then countered that with thinking about how the two shed their "real-world" forms for their other world bodies (further reinforcing that the other world is its own realm in Coraline's mind). The taffy beings are their more twisted versions to fit the game.
You know what I just thought of? You know how in animation they reuse assets to cut down on the amount of energy needed to make a cartoon? Like how everyone wears the same clothes every single day in a lot of cartoons? What if that's why we see so many copies? The other mother conserving energy by reusing assets instead of designing stuff from scratch
That's a really good thought, and you are SO right about animation, especially stop motion! In James and the Giant Peach they find some pirate captain who's a Jack Skellington model in a new costume!
@@TheFangirlWatches It's not really a shortcut Coraline uses like at all. Like they made multiple radiators instead of reusing them. But the Beldam might find it easier to make 3 of the same outfit instead of 3 different outfits
Like this!!!Fungirl, Spink and Forcible have candy that they are made from later in the film.
Yeah that's the big call back - that the old ladies have a bunch of taffy and their alter-egos are made of taffy. Just like Bobinsky is obsession with mice and then becomes a big mouse (rat) contraption.
Maybe the Cat left the flashlight there for Coraline if he was trying to help her?
The other world is like a pitcher plant, the beldam is like the frog and coralline is a bug stuck in the plant with the frog
This has become my favorite series omg
Had a thought... The Beldam might be harvesting souls rather than eyes. The eyes are often thought of as the windows to the soul, and I wonder if sewing the button eyes is similar to putting a lid on an essence vial or bottle and sealing it. Eventually either it dries up to look like, or it is consumed and replaced by, the sawdust.
And maybe the fail safe to the sewing of the button eyes (in case the prey isn't necessarily buying it) is the sealing of the well at the end - the well lid looks like a button. Either way, the prey seals themselves into that world or that reality.
And maybe i'm overreaching and overthinking LOL
I had literally always assumed she had their souls too. when the ghost kid is like “find our eyes miss and then our souls will be free” I assumed it was the kid not really knowing what was going on, but now with the Fangirls theory that they were puppets, that makes sense. Because how does someone protect their soul? But she knows how to “protect” her eyes. No buttons. But since the buttons were a decoyyyyy. I see the time knife
@@Jay.T4NA ok, first up - was that a Good Place reference with the time knife? Coz that almost made me giggle snort my coffee all over the place lol
And you’re right, I always forget they did mention the souls being free re. When she found their eyes. I agree it makes sense since they are basically pawns/puppets for the Beldam.
@@Jay.T4NA Your comment also got me on a thinking tangent - the ghost kids say the Beldam took their eyes, but then the Beldam always seems to be more leaning towards Coraline sewing the buttons in herself. And at the end, with the covering of the well with the button lid, she effectively does that. So why does it need to be Coraline's choice? And I started thinking about one possibility that it is connected to the whole demonic stuff, but then remembered that Neil Gaiman has a similar thread in Stardust: the magic and soul essence the witch takes from Yvaine is more potent when she feels love, and that it's something that needs to be given freely rather than taken. And maybe that is why the Beldam tricks Coraline into coming into the pink palace and tricks her so she never leaves - it's like she heals her (and her relationship to her mother) to feed off her soul that is amped up with love.
I can't remember if this has already been addressed, it's been a lot of videos LOL what do you think?
@@cynthiacano84 glad my good place reference hit the spot, and 100% it’s like the witches in stardust, like the witches and the Beldam are just like soulless, hungry beings and human love is what keeps them alive. Sort of like the toys and Andy in the Pixar theory
The sets of eyes could be inside each ball
All my life had hot chocolate for breakfast 🤣
Taffy Spink and Forceble are probably the second most scariest thing in this film..(after The Beldum) also, the fact that all the wonders desaturate when Coraline takes their souls back could mean that maybe the Beldam doesn't actually have magic of her own? She gets it from their souls?
we Coraline it is wonderful
Perfect time to come home from work!
I think these are the same others sfink and other forcible. Because, when they took the costumes off to reveil their younger selves, the younger cells have black eyes.
Fan girl how about you do a theory on the movie killer clowns from Outer space like how come you can’t kill the clans by shooting them in the chest, but you can only kill them by shooting them in the nose. And how does guns work to turn humans into cotton candy? How come their clown leader is a giant clown while they’re all smaller than him compared to one giant clown.
I love your videos!!! And congrats on getting married, hope you have a long and happy marriage!
I think the toffee monster is made out of the young Spink and Forcible and they had black coloured buttons (sorry bad English)
So now I'm thinking the beldam did make new puppets that she could just immediately discard because the old puppets that Coraline met originally are now in the limbo Pink Palace waiting for her
Maybe the difference is those puppets that she first met have some of the soul of Their original ower but these two and the Mrs B one don't that's why they look so off
I think the eye tapping was somehow the biggest clue. I don't know why.
The film starts with a hand made of sewing needles, and a bunch of sewing motions and buttons.
It's the most important part of the film. I just don't understand it.
Taffy Spink and Forcible have black button eyes and Other Spink and Forcible have white button eyes. But Young Other Spink and Forcible have black button eyes. Taffy Spink and Forcible are also the younger versions of them. Could the white button eyes be symbolic of a loss of eye sight as both real Spink and Forcible have also got the faded milky eyes that suggest diminished sight?
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