I honestly feel like modern Disney is a testament to what happens when a studio becomes far too greedy for its own good. Not only does it start valuing quantity over quality, but it also becomes reluctant to make any creative decisions that have even the slightest possibility of losing its projects money. As a result, most of its projects aren't even bad, but rather mediocre slogs that ironically still lose money anyway because they're just so freaking boring
The thing is, they are a publicly traded company and CEOs are tasked with one thing: ensuring growth. Growth doesn’t just mean being profitable… turning a profit is easy… ensuring that profit is growing every single year is hard. Someone like Bob Iger literally cannot afford to think “if it’s not broken, don’t fix it” cause every single year he is tasked with how to ensure something not broken can work even better… and thereby you run into the issue that the market cannot bear so much, especially with inflation - and the ways executives try and meddle often make things worse. In short, we can blame capitalism’s endless pursuit of infinite growth.
@@charlesterry2480 Disney suffers from two problems, one they are so big that if a film is just ok at the box office, it's not good enough. Back then they were less powerful, they more forgiving if a film wasn't a huge hit. The second, what made Disney so great in the 90's is that know one could compete with them at all, Anastasia is the only one that came close. Now a day's there is too much competition that Disney has completely lost the will to take risks anymore and want to play it safe. What's the point in making a master piece if any wrong move could have it be overshadowed by another amazing film??? It's a classic case of ( This town ain't big enough for the two of us!!!!!!)
Far too greedy. Far too woke. They are afraid of offending people.. This is why we didn't have a real villain for years. This is why no woman can be bad and no poc character can be the traitor or the liar... Their creativity freedom is gone.. They are hostage to very strict rules created by sick activists that don't care about art
There’s been a major decline in meritocracy hiring practices in the animation industry, people don’t have to do the mandatory proof of ability tests to gain access to the job, which is made worse by all the nepo-baby college grads getting fast tracked into high ranking positions because they had access to stupendously expensive colleges that have exclusive, privileged “connections” to get them access to jobs (with Disney in particular) and these graduates then just hire their college friends who also are exempt from mandatory quality tests. These cliques are then just hiring each other in every job thereafter, eroding industry standards on every project they gain control over. Absolutely nothing should matter except the proof of one’s ability, as soon as you take away a “the artist proven to be the best gets the job” framework, as well as upholding a quality threshold no team member is exempt from, you are going to instead be left with productions of inconsistent quality, with no guarantee everyone on the team is capable of the monumental tasks entrusted to them, or that they were ever the “best” person for that job to begin with. This malignant industry hiring practice is especially prevalent in Pre Production, so it’s unsurprising storytelling/plot and character arcs are the biggest problems in modern era animation. I suppose it says a lot about the heads of these companies with how hands-off they are on quality, so long as quantity quotas are met and the company is profitable (at least long enough for them to make their personal wealth and retire) they simply have no reason to be bothered upholding a company’s legacy reputation. Animation is now just a soulless shell of a formerly phenomenal industry 😢
This movie reeks of corporate meddling... Star could have been an actual, developed character beyond toy fodder? King and Queen could have been an evil villain duo?? The creativity was in the room, I just don't think it was allowed to speak in the final project.
It's not just corporate meddling. All of the songs were written by AI, Asha is a Mary Sue, King Magnifico was in the right, the evil book of spells was pulled out of Disney's ass, and none of the wishes here are portayed as evil when there very much is such thing as bad wishes.
I saw one comment saying that Starboy should've been a developed, specifically non-binary character, the consideration of that thought made me feel very happy as a non-binary person myself. I commented underneath that comment trying to build on this premise. It makes sense to me that this character *would* be non-binary/agender because gender is a human concept. I thought it would be very interesting for Asha to ask how she should refer to Star in terms of gender (which pronouns), only for Star to become confused because what is gender to a star? Maybe Asha tries to briefly explain gender and at the question of "are you a boy or a girl?" Star just looks confused and answers, "I'm a star" and that's the end of it for them.
@Flyboy1953it is honestly a preference. As an AuDHD individual, I prefer identity first language because it's part of who I am and we should honestly destigmatize the term "disabled" anyway. If you prefer PFL, that's your preference and it needs to be respected.
The part that makes me so angry about star boy is that they ALREADY had a sidekick character, they didn't need to make him one, they could've done plenty of merch with just the goat. Ugh.
A thing I haven't' seen brought up yet is how hollow the wishes are. They're like "I wish to be able to fly", or "I wish to become a knight" or even just "I wish to create something great". These are the greatest concerns of these people. They seem to live in a bubble and have no real problem to speak of. Is there nobody that wished like "I wish my sick relative was sane again" or "I wish our house didn't crumble" or "I wish my parent could come back to life"? I mean... any situation where an almost omnipotent sorcerer would represent a true blessing? Also Amaya should have been evil.
True, but one of the wishes in the "I Will Protect You" song was a man Wishing for a family. So... the film does have wishes you were wanting, albeit sparse. Though it'd have been great if Asha's mother's wish was for her husband to not be sick anymore.
THIS is kinda Magnifico's whole point during his first 10 minutes in the movie (and right before his song): people are selfish, and some wishes are vague. When Magnifico asks about the star, their first thoughts are to their wishes and having another ceremony, which frustrates him further.
@@off-the-grounder568 Yeah, he does! Also, I just realized something: the wishes Magnifico pulls out aren't meant to be situational needs like a house falling or wanting a sick person to get better. The wishes are supposed to be one's core ambition in life (like all five of Inside Out Riley's core memories/personality islands). No matter how much a person may want their house to not crumble, that's not going to be their core ambition in life (for example let's use Miguel from Coco; wouldn't matter if his house was crumbling, his core wish would be to be a musician). However, that does call into question the man that wanted a family.
@@HickoryDickory86 tf there's no way with how this movie ended up. unless execs kept changing it midway production or something. mustve been in production hell a bit.
The film felt rushed: Magnifico's past (and motivations before he did a 180), Asha's dad, Simon's betrayal, Sakina's wish, and Magnifico turning on Rosas were just some of the underdeveloped things that made for a poor film.
@@charlesterry2480 My issue with "Encanto" was that since the focus was mainly on Mirabel and she had a dozen other family members, Luisa, Isabela, and Dolores' arcs felt very rushed and condensed.
@@charlesterry2480 I'd be open to it, but the main story might lag and it'd be an unattractive run time for a "kid's movie"--plus this came out at the height of the pandemic, which would further make it difficult.
What’s disgusting is that THE day the movie came out i went to the mall and immediately saw toys of the goat. it’s *almost* as if the goat was only created for that reason.
I feel like the pig (Pua) in Moana is a similar case - was a heavy part of the marketing to push merch, then is only on screen at the beginning and end (with HeiHei taking the more prominent animal sidekick role)
@@mollymcdade4031 That has bothered me the most throughout the years after watching Moana, I liked the movie but it was hella weird how prominent the pig seemed in trailers and the beginning, only for the roster to be the sidekick? (I dont mind bc he is a funny one but was it supposed to be a misdirect or smth?)
Poor souls. May their sacrifice bear successful fruit of an actually good Frozen 3 & 4. [Psst: Please introduce other sorcerous girls with seasonal powers to go along with Elsa's winter magic!]
I've been excited for Wish since Asha was announced and genuinely enjoyed it. Then I found out all of the concepts that didn't make it into the movie. Star was supposed to be a mute shapeshifter boy and a possible romantic interest for Asha. Amaya was supposed to be evil as well, and Asha was SUPPOSED TO BE THE DAUGHTER OF MAGNIFICO AND AMAYA. We were absolutely robbed. Now, I'm mad about how much more it could've been! I make this wish for Wish to have something more than this! Come on!
WE WERE ROBBED FOR REAL ROBBED OF A DISABLED SUPERNATURAL FRIEND/LOVE INTEREST ROBBED OF A EVIL COUPLE THAT HAS A FUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHP ROBBED OF A BRAVE CHILD WHO STANDS UP AGAINST THEIR PARENTS
Wait Asha was supposed to be the kid of an evil power couple? That would have been really spicy ngl especially if they were genuinely good parents who love their kid.
That would be so awesome. The protagonist falling in love with a shapeshifter boy made out of starlight? Heck yes. And an evil power couple would've been the coolest thing ever, I want this movie to be made so badly.
Obviously not saying they can’t do a Wish theme, it makes sense with the whole “dream is a wish your heart makes” legacy, but just a year after Puss in Boots The Last Wish put out a damn near perfect wish story, they were setting themselves up for failure. They needed to focus on something else or make this well… better than Puss.
Rapunzels awkward adorkableness comes from her being sheltered. So there's an actual reason she's awkward and somewhat adorably naive. Story wise there was a reason for it. Now it's just become a trait to slap onto every female character.
@@avidreader4140I always felt mirabel’s personality was an overcompensation for her lack of gift. Once she really starts trying to save the wish I feel like a lot of the adorkablness went away/ was very subdued
@@pucamiscim fairly certain it is overcompensation. when shes by herself or doesnt feel the need to perform, shes pretty sassy and sarcastic. shes got more to her than just being "quirky" which...honestly, i wouldnt even call her quirky. just awkward.
One of the little things that took me out of this movie was when they showed a close-up of Asha's hands, and she DOESN'T HAVE FINGERNAILS?!?! C'mon, Disney. You spent millions of dollars making sure Rapunzel's hair looked as realistic as possible and probably spent a million more making sure we can see every pore on Elsa's face. Where did the budget for this movie go?
Allegedly (according to the production manager for this film on Twitter) this movie was heavily impacted by the layoffs that Disney did earlier this year Which... may explain the shoddy animation. I imagine the animators were stretched paper thin trying to complete this film within the year, and Disney wanted them to push it out before the end of 2023 at all costs.
as much as i hate this movie that was probably more so cus the animation they were ✨️ Inspired By ✨️ did not really have fingernails. yknow considering 2d fingernails would be hard to do cus theyre so small but I'm pretty sure even 2D animated princesses had nails. i know some had sharp fingers to give the illusion of nails... ah that aside it's not really meant to be hyper realsitic, that Im cool with what im not cool with is the fact they couldn't sell it well for it to look good. and every other technical animation issue with this movie
Y'know...we DID have a Disney movie heroine that wasn't another quirky stereotype. Her name was Raya. She was mature and headstrong, but had major trust issues. It was seriously a refreshing change of pace. But even her character was poorly written. Mainly thanks to Sisu. And she was the quirky stereotype instead, but in the worst way possible.
God, Raya should have been so much better. The aesthetics were cool, the feel if the movie seemed so different, yet instead we get Gaslight The Movie... The message of that movie was AWFUL in the context of what happened.
I really liked Raya's character. I could not stand Sisu or the fact that the message of the movie seemed to be blaming Raya for not trusting someone that has repeatedly betrayed her and made no effort to make things better by acting like the burden should have been on Raya (the one who was betrayed and lost her family and kingdom) to make things right and not the person responsible for her loss. Someone had a good idea on how it should have been Raya who stole the orb thing at the beginning for her kingdom and then the rest of the movie was her trying to make things right. Which would explain Namari's distrust of her. Also, they could have had Sisu not talk.
@@GuineaPig361 That's something I tell my little brother every time we watch Disney movies lately. It's always "these stories are too big to be contained in 1 to 2 hours." Especially Raya since it was an Avatar style adventure story with a pretty big world and ensemble cast.
I think the design of it isn't unique enough to be trademarked or whatever. It's a basic star graphic (which is basically public domain) with generic facial expressions (also basically public domain).
Guys if Amaya was evil you know what else we would have gotten? A duet villain song between a couple. A duet villain song. How amazing would that have been???
I have storyboards that kind of repurpose the At All Cost song with Magnifeco singing it to Amaya either as manipulation or genuinely trying to keep her to stay and join him out of love, i haven't decided yet (Asha solo stays but its in a different context now).
Ahhhh stop making me cry for what never was!!! 😢 Btw, slight remedy: Watching the improvised villain duet "You know what I mean" from Mischief Movie Night In (improvised "movies" done and filmed by a British comedy/theatre group called Mischief theatre). They have made up some incredible villain songs along the way but this one I particularly enjoy, you can find it on here!
For me, Wish was a movie with potential that was wasted. There were so many more creative directions they could have gone; I listened to one review that suggested Asha could have been Magnifico's daughter, the princess of the kingdom who was raised to see her father as a miracle worker just like the rest of the people. But then, when she came of age and learned of what her father was really like, she could have rebelled against his rule and worked to restore the people's wishes because she felt it was her duty to her people. You would then also have the added drama of having to fight her family in order to do what was right for her people.
Fun fact: Trolls Band together (the third movie of the franchises), made 200 millions dollars in the box office, and the audience score is 91% approval People like trolls 3 better, than the 100 yeas celebration of Disney. Granted, the trolls franchise is a lot of fun and Band together is the best of the 3, but my god. Winning this hard against Disney is hilarious
Hayao Miyazaki's new film also did better than Wish in both box office and critical reception. Heck, even the Adam Sandler lizard movie had a better critcal reception than Wish and it didn't even go to theaters.
A Hollow Wish is the truest and saddest way to call this movie. Cinderella once said "A dream is a wish your heart makes" The thing is, there was no heart put in this 100th Anniversary Wish. And Walt would be heartbroken knowing how this dream would never see the light.
They probably will, given that this is the first time a fantasy musical has failed. My only concern is that this might make them retire the fantasy-musical idea for a while, similar to how "Sleeping Beauty" put them off of fairy tales for 30 years after it failed at the box office.
@@bumblebeeproductions1673but it’s not just been 1 movie. Disney’s movies have been flopping for years and they’ve been losing money. If i suspect right it won’t be long now til they turn around
@@bumblebeeproductions1673It kinda does. WDAS made 3 billion dollar movies in the past decade (Frozen, Zootopia, and Frozen 2), which is still a feat for animated films today. The underperformance of "Strange World" and "Wish" is gonna cost them money, so they'll have to go back to the drawing board.
The star originally being a shapeshifting Peter Pan esque character AND Asha's love interest fucks so hard and I'm so mad it got scrapped. Unless I'm wrong we've yet had a disney movie with a poc female lead where romance played a big part and disney made their brand on fairy tale romance so like, that's your fucking callback you love so much!! A fantastical love story between a celestial magical being and normal girl who loves dreams and wishes, what's not to enjoy?! +Saying Magnifico feels like a twist villain really hit the nail on the head for me. He doesn't Look like a disney villain, he looks like your everyday goodhearted ruler. His design reminds me of Rapunzel's parents, rulers who stick out just enough for the role they play in the story, but not when they're meant to be the main villain.
Maybe this is how the movie really is meant to be read? (Just like "Pokemon: Sun and Moon" apparently has a critique of typical Pokemon player in the character of Lusamine).
I think this movie should be a lesson that archetypes are no substitution for actual characters, and references are no substitution for actual writing.
The Star being a celestial shapeshifter would've been EPIC! Also could be like a cute brother and sister bonding with him and Asha. His previous design looked so cute and mesmerizing! But no instead we got Disney mascot Number 100,542.
Nah, romantic interest was in the cards for this, but it was fucked off because of the goddamn current thought process that people don't like romance. We do. And... it could have been a tragic sort of romance.
He's a literal wishing star, and she's a human. And in line with the movie, him being there would probably be too dangerous, so he'd have to leave her. It sets up a bittersweet ending, one that could have hope, especially since she's apparently the main Fairy Godmother?@@chocoberryvanillacake4297
You know, they could have made Asha the Queen Daughter and Magnifico her stepfather, and they would have a bigger conflict about what they would think it's right for the people? It's a simple change that would make her motivation stronger, she doesn't agree how the kingdom is being ruled and rebels against both of her parents. It would have brought a depth that is lacking, since they also don't spend time with her mom and grandfather. Sure, it might have fallen onto generational trauma a little bit, but it could work, a girl that was raised in a bubble only to realize her parents are terrible people, it's more interesting, and it's something Disney never truly explored, AND it would reference - Snow White, having a evil Queen, Cinderella- an evil Step Parent AND Rapunzel, by making Asha living is “safe” bubble. Because, to be honest, when the promotional stuff started coming out I truly thought Asha was the Queen's daughter and Magnifico her stepdad, because she is more around them than her actual family.
A problem I have is that they only go with "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" to show Asha that Magnifico is hanging onto the wishes. The could've ran with a Fantasia-like plot where Asha BECOMES his apprentice and things spin out of control when she grants wishes irresponsibly.
Holy crud, that is exactly what I thought was going to happen in the film!!! Ever since the film was announced, I swear I heard she was gonna be a princess and that she was the daughter of the queen and her stepfather was the king and the villain. But then the movie came out and I'm like, "Ok... Disney chose to not make the obvious new Spain-latino princess a princess for... unknown reasons. That's a... weird choice. Well, maybe the family they gave her instead will be interes- and, aside from the grandfather being an allegory for Disney's centennial, they're boring as all hell."
They could also go for Alladin with evil sorcerer, who wants control. They could even went for twisted villain with this one. Suggesting that he just manipulates Queen like Jafar manipulated Sutan, and then on crucial moment revel that Queen is perfectly aware of Magnifico's actions and she supports him... They could have done so much, it's sad.
She definitely is written as a one-dimensional character, because her only character is that she's heroic and good and like her entire character is a combination of quirky Disney princesses, which might I add, have actual depth to them
I find her whole deal at best problematic. I mean I know what she becomes in the end, so it makes sense for her to want wishes to be granted. That said, I completly understand Magnificos side. Might be because we had much better Stories, showing us how granting every wish might not be the greatest Idea.
I've heard this argument before - that she had no character development at all, that she was the exact same person in the beginning of the story as she was in the end. Well, to be fair, she did have one tiny change I believe, but the change felt so insignificant, it's understandable viewers miss it. Maybe they should have highlighted it more, but perhaps Disney was afraid it would put Asha in a bad light... Come to think of it now, they should have done it so she could have had some more visible arc in her character, plus it might be a good comparison with the villain. What am I talking about? People have noted this but they forget it soon enough: she was a bit selfish in the beginning. She was only really focusing on her grandfather's wish and no one else's. She went and stole her grandpa's wish in the beginning, failed to grab her mother's, and then they were going to run off and abandon everyone else. The scene in the boat where she changes her mind and resolves to go back and save everyone else's wish should have felt more pivotal, but it was forgettable. I've watched a few reviews of this movie and barely anyone mentions that scene... They maybe should have highlighted Asha's selfishness more. Maybe instead of her being quirky and nice, they made her super assertive and wanting things done her way. And maybe with that personality, she demanded more from Magnifico like insisted that if he's not going to fulfill all the wishes, then at least give her back her grandpa's and her mom's and make her clearly say she doesn't care about anyone else's wish... and then realize later that she was being selfish and that's wrong and she resolves to change... Idk. As I mentioned elsewhere in these comments, this story was half-baked and could have benefited from a few more brain-storming sessions and tweaking in the writer's room.
She is good from the very beginning because WOMEN ARE GOOD AND AWESOME! YOU GO GIRL!.. And this is how wokeness ruined female character development... Rey, Captain Marvel, Galadriel.. All bland and boring
@@FabsHF I’m so fucking sick of ppl using “woke/wokeness” as a term to describe mediocre media that trip over their attempts at progressive themes. And I bet that even if I give an in-depth explanation of the term “woke” and it’s history alongside the shallow attempts from neoliberal writers to include diversity or female-centered media, you’d still ignore it.
People are upset that there was a missed opportunity for the queen to be evil and part of a villain power couple with her husband, but I'd argue that her being good was also something Disney hasn't explored. We've had evil stepmothers marrying good men, but we've never had a villain's spouse forced to realize that the person they wanted to share their life with is not a good person. Here we have a princess who lived happily ever after with her prince, and decades later, all the good in him fizzled out until she had to go against him after he drew a weapon on her for trying to talk him down. This is heartbreaking, this is dramatic, but the movie barely wants to acknowledge her, so it has no impact. Knowing What I Know Now should have been HER song, not the song of a bunch of teenagers with a queen guest appearance. I don't care how cute your ragtag teens are, give her a moment!
Creativity, inspiration are DEAD, bc everything’s been done, heck even romantic inspiration is dead after that most beautiful model in the world, she blinded everyone, with the best photography ever. So the world seems starved for wholesomeness and genuineness, but without realizing it, bc everyone’s just edgy and nostalgia baiting for past greatness…
@@vinnyfromvenus8188 It depends how the wishes worked. If it was just like the movie... then yeh roll credits. But my idea has the wishes all just appear around the kingdom like fire flies, It'd make the land more unique & make kids wish they could run around the magical land seeing them fly around looking pretty, (Also opens up a sequel where a jerk face could want to destroy them cause they're evil)
I feel like this film was the embodiment of that song from the starkid musical ‘Twisted’ where the townsfolk sing about how you should just wish for things instead of working towards your goals.
Or like… give us ANY time with any of these characters. That could also work. Seriously, a ten minute prologue where we show their family together and can get a sense of their relationship would work perfectly
To be honest Asha's song about wanting things better than this comes off as spoiled. Rosas is a world with no poverty, no racism, no sexism, no witch in a time where all that was rampant. Yes, Rosas isn't perfect but it seems much better than other worlds. Tiana, Mulan, Meg, Cinderella, Esmeralda, Kida, Merida and even Snow White would be giving Asha the BOMBASTIC SIDE-EYE big time.
I know this comment is a month old, but I've read many comments on different videos about why Wish failed, and you are the ONLY one to point this out. You're right; it does come off as spoiled. She pretty much lives in a utopian society but seems to take that for granted. She has first-world problems. And this would have been a GREAT character flaw to lean into. We could have had a plot that combined the sayings, "Be careful what you wish for" and "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." What if Magnifico had good reason to lock some wishes away? And Asha, being our stubborn, idealistic hero, who doesn't like hearing no and thinks she knows better, on her own, could have set off a catastrophic reaction after making some wishes come true. We could have had a celestial starboy love story and a hero who actually was capable of learning and growing, but we instead got mid, forgettable trash. I love the idea of a villain couple, but if this movie had manifested wishes that became dangerous, you wouldn't need a bad guy; the wishes could provide the story's conflict. We were robbed.
I know this is a 3 month old reply, but I could recommend a few videos about how Wish basically celebrates and condones complete immorality: "Disney's Wish: an Immoral and Dangerous Message" by The Dragons Treasure, and "Wish is Everything Wrong with Disney" by Manga Writer. Dragons Treasure's vid is a lot shorter, but Manga Writer goes into how even the music sounds like its tone is backwards.
Glad ya like the concept of the story (the way the wishes work, Asha, and the concept art of the evil King and Queen) and I can't wait to see what ya come up with for your rewrite.
My question is why does Magnifico even need an apprentice in the first place--and how Asha was a candidate when Magnifico knew almost nothing about her.
@@OpticalSorcerer 🤷♂️ good question. A friend and I (who are also working on a rewrite) had the idea of instead making Asha the princess of Rosas (which I swear I heard was the case during production). Therefore she's not just a random apprentice but Magnifico's daughter who would be taking over her dad's job. She loves the people of her kingdom and finds out her dad is hording wishes. We also came up with the idea of the Queen being the King's wish- she died in his backstory and his wish was for her to come back to life.
@@andrewdowns3673 I like the idea of Magnifico being Asha's dad, though I have two concerns (I hope you don't mind me sharing unsolicited feedback): 1. Magnifico and Amaya seem to age naturally, which means Rosas was built somewhat recently, but the film never dives into where Sakina or Sabino came from before Rosas and how special it is to them enough to stay--despite never getting their wishes granted. You'd think Asha's family would get more attention, yet they don't. I worry that if the writing style stayed the same, Amaya and Magnifico wouldn't be much mpre fleshed out. (This doesn't include your rewrite, though.) 2. Amaya being a product of Magnifico's wish seems to undermine his valid point that some wishes are dangerous and thus why he hoardes them. One of my biggest issues with "Wish" is how he has a valid point, but his childhood, how he met Amaya, and how he gained powers are never explained--not to mention the fact that learned magic while Star gave it to Asha via a wand. Magnifico being a hypocrite by making a dangerous wish weakens the message of the film, imo. Though I do like the idea that Asha brings Amaya back to life herself to prove her point and has to deal with the consequences of messing with life and death. I'd love a callback to "The Little Mermaid" with the father-daughter story.
@@OpticalSorcerer Don't mind at all; all shared unsolicited feedback is welcome. 1. Well, with Amaya and Magnifico being her parents they would be more fleshed out. And I'd have Magnifico be visibly younger in the flashback and noticeably older in the present day of the film- say round RDJ's age. So Rosas would be about 30 years old since its founding. As for Sabino- he'd be a kind old citizen of the kingdom that Asha knows (might make him Dalia's grandfather actually now that I'm writing this). As for Sakina- nothing to work form the film so, sad to say but she'll be excluded. 2. "Amaya being a product of Magnifico's wish seems to undermine his valid point that some wishes are dangerous and thus why he hoards them." How so? I genuinely don't see a problem with that, especially since some people have been saying that the wishes were to bland and none of them were for things like "I wish my loved one was not sick anymore." So I'd love to hear more on your thoughts on why its bad. "Though I do like the idea that Asha brings Amaya back to life herself to prove her point and has to deal with the consequences of messing with life and death. I'd love a callback to "The Little Mermaid" with the father-daughter story." Ooo, that's good. Also, while writing this I came up with an idea: I know that people are mad that the evil King and Queen duo was scrapped and there are some roadblocking issues with making Asha Magnifico's daughter and how he has some valid points, so what about this: instead of Asha being Magnifico's apprentice, he has a husband-wife apprentice duo. Magnifico could then be more like King Triton so his valid reasoning for not granting all wishes works and to go along with that father-daughter story idea ya mentioned, while the new 'Morticia and Gomez' villainous apprentices don't value the wishes of others and just want the power in them so they can take over the kingdom for themselves.
@@andrewdowns3673 1. It'd be fun to see the dynamic between Asha and her parents--though since she is North African on her mom's side, it would be nice to keep her as a POC (maybe Magnifico is Middle Eastern or Amaya is Afro-Indigenous or something like that). Honestly it's weird that they didn't make Asha Romani, given Spain has one of the largest Romani populations and Valentino seems like a reference to Djali. Sabino being Dahlia's grandfather does seem better, as well as fleshing out the Teens a little bit more (Dahlia cooks for the king, but that feels like a side thing). 2. What I mean is that Magnifico is bringing someone back from the dead. That's kind of a no-no with wish granting that can get out of hand, AKA a dangerous wish he wouldn't want to grant. I do agree about healing others and more adventurous wishes, though; this could fuel Magnifico's ideology. With the daddy-daughter story, I'd flip the script a bit (not saying you need to do this, btw); lean into Magnifico's manic/humorous side that contrasts with his professional image of a serious and wise king while Asha is more serious and less adorkable, akin to Belle, Tiana, and Pocahontas. And plot twist idea that I should do if I ever do a rewrite; instead of an evil couple (Asha, the royals, her friends, Valentino, and Sabino are a lot of hands in the pot already), maybe Amaya was a queen who fell into evil, become a Maleficent-like figure Magnifico had to kill, but spread a positive image about her once she died. When Asha revives her via the wish, only she can defeat Amaya, who is immune to Magnifico's powers, and she manages to curropt him. Since Magnifico has a valid point, it's hard for Asha (and the audience) to be able to tell he's evil until it's too late. NGL I'm mad because so many people have better ideas for this film than what we got.
This is what Chapek does. He rushes creative people into releasing content ASAP instead of letting them do their job in their own pace. The animation studios, Marvel, Star Wars. Good effing riddance.
Iger never left. He set it up to have oversight over Cheapek at all times and never let him have any actual power except to throw him under the bus when Iger's decisions inevitably failed
No, Iger is doing this too. Most of these problems are due to Iger forcing Disney into the streaming bubble. Also, Iger was always there. He just wasn't the face for a bit.
Maybe one of the themes of this movie could be that it's okay if your dreams don't always come true, where her grandpa is dying and all asha wants is to give him that one last wish. Where the entire movie is her trying to make that wish come true until magnifico breaks it in front of her eyes. The wish that she wanted to preserve, the wish that meant so much to her is destroyed. So when she escaped, when they save the day, she went back to the hospital to see her grandpa dying...yet smiling? He wanted to look at her one last time and told her that he had a blissful life. It confused Asha, led her to ask him so many questions especially about his wish that made him laugh. And in his final breath he told her that it was okay, wish granted or not he was still blessed to have such an amazing granddaughter and family. That a wish wasn't the end of the world and she could still have a great life without one. Before dying in the bed saying that he loves her.
I can’t help but to laugh when I think about this; the tagline on the poster says “be careful what you wish for” but the very last line in the movie is “just keep wishing.” It completely contradicts itself!
I’ll say that none of the children laughed at the jokes and it’s almost like if you prevent the people who know what their doing form doing their thing you’re gonna get a bad outcome, just a thought.
I don't have problem with the movie. I just have problem with Disney in general. The movie is OK whatever. But it's just Disney itself. I think we're trying not to give them the credit. Cus they have been disappointing us. I think we're low-key trying to put Disney down so they can stop with their shenanigans likes stealing people's ideas and getting away with it. You know.
Yeah. From what I'm seeing more and more reviews (from actual intellectuals and not trolls) is that they're more disappointed with Disney and not Wish. Which, with their treatment of properties and giving more attention to the live-action remakes, is understandable and valid.
People know good and well that if Wish was made by a different studio, people would dismiss it as another bland movie. But because it's Disney, they act like it's a hellspawn.
I just want a classic Disney fairy tale again. Maybe Red Riding Hood where the Wolf has a song like the Fox from Pinocchio. Also, how did we do from HELLFIRE to “I’ll let you live here for free, and I don’t even charge you rent”???
I'm thinking that this movie is more of an allegory of how Disney is acting. What I mean is, if Disney is the villain and the wishes are other companies and studios, this is a great movie and I will definitely pay to watch it!
The song At All Cost stole the show for me. It’s funny how they scrapped star boy but kept the obvious love song in the movie. The demo for At All Cost even has the words love you but they changed it to promise in the movie.
I have not seen this movie, but as a Spaniard, the queen's (I think she is???) outfit does look a lot like the way Dulcinea from Don Quijote is always portrayed wearing
Okay, so I totally agree with you about the concept; it's got real potential! I WISH (see what I did there?) the movie stuck with its original concept. Half the time I kept thinking that they WERE going to reveal the queen as a twist villain. Like she was in on it the whole time and just pretending to be nice. Or maybe he used his magic to put her under a spell. They DID make a big deal in the beginning about her being "loyal", after all. Speaking of the villain, I absolutely agree that if he was in a room with the other Disney villains they would wreck him. He is a loser, but I feel like he kind of had to be. IMO a villain is only as strong and compelling as the hero. You know, because the audience has to actually believe that the hero CAN defeat the villain they're facing up against. And, I'm sorry, but Asha is really bland. Like, in all honesty, could you see her facing up against any of the classic villains? They'd run circles around that poor girl. The way she defeated Magnifico in the movie was...meh. SPOILERS!! DON'T READ AFTER THIS LINE IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE! Fun after-credits idea: I would have loved it if the queen went to the dungeon to visit her husband, now trapped in the mirror, in order to gloat about her position. In an attempt to butter her up, he tells her how beautiful and wonderful she is, kind of how she did for HIM at the beginning of the film, in the hopes that she'll release him; hinting that THIS queen would eventually become the evil queen from snow white. I mean, since they're trying to give the magic mirror an origin they should go all the way, right?
Absolutely. But I also think it should have had more foreshadowing. Like why did he get trapped in the mirror shard. It could be something simple that since he was vain the consequence for failing was ti forever be alone never gazing on his beauty. Instead we just get the crap of 'once someone has used dark magic they are evil forever.' I just felt like, while cool, it didn't hold any weight. But this after credit scene would have definitely upped it's cool factor.
Also if they wanted to stick to the queen not being evil, we could show the future evil queen stumbling across his mirror, and have him manipulate her to let him out instead.
@@leafbranchthewarriorcat5869 For sure! They should have definitely focused more on the foreshadowing! My favorite types of villain defeats are the ones that use a certain character trait against them. Jafar, for example, is my favorite villain defeat. I love how Aladdin used Jafar's own ego to trap him within the lamp. And all because he NEEDED to be the most powerful person in the room. A character trait that's been his motivation from the very beginning.
Yeah its unfortunate because this is due to Bob Iger and the other executives being the reason why Disney is in the state that it is now, they completely abandoned Walt's ethos of making movies and the meaning behind them. I feel bad for the creative team who really want to bring back that magic but the brand is so far gone that its now a former shell of itself.
16:50 "If you put him in a room with all the other Disney villains they would all make fun of him and shove him into a locker and I would help" genuinely made me laugh out loud
The only song I cared for was "At All Costs". It hinted at a potential master/father figure vs apprentice/daughter figure. Experience, ration and caution vs Passion, idealism and being headstrong. Magnifico had a point, and clearly was a good leader, based on how his kingdom operated without any hardship. The theme of wishes, trauma and authority figures could've allowed for a very nuanced story, between a protagonist and an antagonist that are both right and wrong. There could've still been a villain character that represents that negatives of both characters' ideals, via a wish, too. Disney just can't not play it safe, when it comes to storytelling, to save their lives. Same with their visuals. Should've went 2D, like an Fantasia throwback. Should've brought in Eastern and European talent to give it flair. We get anime episodes more visually creative and spectacular than in most of Disney's output. Just check out stuff like Frieren and Mob Psycho Seasons 2 & 3. Look at something like Arcane.
The star not being a character is probably the biggest missed opportunity. There are so many ways you could take the personification of a wishing star. I think it could have been cool if you had the character talk about how many wishes don't even need magic, and people can often accomplish their wishes themselves, and that could have been a poignient thing about how wishes aspire us to do better. So later in the film we can still have the star get captured, but instead of the deus ex song ending you could have all the characters working together to get star out and thereby defeat the king, showing how wishes also demand work. The idea of a wishing star becoming a person is so on brand for a fairytale it is insane to me they didnt do it. And it would make sense for the star to be a weird alien quirky type character which could have allowed Asha to be a little more low key and less awkward. So many ideas are so juicy here but it seems they chose everything on marketability rather than actually taking inspiration from the things that made Disney's earlier movies so great.
It's funny you mention it, because there are some official clips from when the movie was in early development showing the dynamic between the star kid and Asha. It seems that originally Asha was going to be shy and more reserved as a character, which contrasted a lot with the extroverted, full of energy personality of the star kid. Their interactions were really cute imo
Yeah I started my own rewrite of Wish. I’m giving Queen Amaya a WHOLLLLEEE lot more character work and growth and having her play a bigger part. Also the grandpa has an actual personality now. And it’s down to three friends, not seven. The goat has been reworked to where it’s just not a goat anymore. The star is the Peter Pan like boy character from its concept art again. And Magnifico’s been edited to be a better and more cunning villain. The elements of a good story were there Disney, so much to work with, you were so close 😅😅😅
Can you imagine if the way to defeat the villain in this movie was to find meaning and purpose in your life even if your “wish” is never fulfilled, thereby taking the power away from the villain?
The reason the quirkiness worked for Anna, Rapunzel, and Mirabelle is because of the social isolation. Anna and Rapunzel were basically locked away from the world and Mirabelle was treated like the black sheep of the family. They have legitimate reasons to be a little quirky. Asha has literally no reason to be quirky.
When I was watching for the first time, I was expecting Magnifico to forcibly take AND CRUSH Asha’s wish during the final “battle”, despite her not being 18, just to show how evil Magnifico has become, but then that…doesn’t happen? for … some reason.
On that initial bit, Rosas is VERY Spanish. The name is, uh, well it means Roses in Spanish, Magnífico is Spanish, and while I'm not super well versed in medieval Spanish fashion the architecture is heavily reminiscent of the taifas and caliphates-periods architecture, lots of fountains and arches and columns and abstract mosaics and such. I've heard people complain that Asha is, well, somewhat brown-coded (due to havig a dreads-ish do) and that that's either Disney trying to get woke points by putting a POC main character in what is otherwise a Spanish-inspired movie, or Disney being outright racist by going dreads>POC>latina>Spanish. What we say to these people is that like 70% of Spain's modern territory was under Islamic rule for five gods-damned centuries, and that the city is literally filled with Southern Spanish architecture, where they put most of the cool stuff like the Alhambra or the Cordoba Mosque. It absolutely makes sense for anArab-ish girl to run around chilling with a goat. Whether her chilling with a goat specifically goes into harmful stereotypes, that's besides the point and not for me to discuss (I have not watched the movie).
it comes from "roses are a common flower seen in fairytales." as well as sleeping beauty (briar rose is her name, and the rose in her hand when she sleeps) and beauty and the beast having a rose theme seriously thats it, cus it shows up in a few fairytales. no understanding as to why roses are in fairytales or integral to many, or anything. jusf surface level reasonings. like every other decision in this movie.
16:50 I WANT TO SEE THAT EXACT SAME SCENARIO! I'm just imagining they're all calling his 'villain song' trash, and then Frollo walks in and starts singing Hellfire.
You nailed why the vibes of this movie were so off to me. It felt like it desperately wanted to harken back to 20th century Disney, and yet it couldn't shake the more tongue-in-cheek snarky "we're self-aware and pointing out tropes" tone that more modern Disney movies have. Part of the reason the best hand-drawn Disney movies hit so hard is because they were 100% confident about being romantic fairy tale musicals with over-the-top villains, and yet more modern Disney films (including Wish) feel insecure about being in that genre.
Y'all we need an apology movie of all the concepts in one Asha would be the daughter of the king and queen who are both evil (yes she was their daughter in a concept) and her parents are going to do something heinous with the power of the wishes. She wants in but feels lonely so she wishes on a star to fill the empty hole in her, thus star boy shows up They bond and through plot they fall in love, and star boy changes Asha and makes her see what she's doing is wrong So they work together with some of her plot related somehow friends to stop her evil parents
The superior wish movie is Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish and no one can convince me otherwise. Also, the wishes actually had a weight in Puss in Boots 2. Unlike the characters' most important dreams being...to fly 🙄
Honestly the idea of giving my most anguish inducing wish to Magnifico and forgetting it unless it gets granted low key sounds like a win-win scenario for free rent.
16:28 - I hear a lot of people complaining about the book, and while I haven't watched the movie myself (I don't want to give them my money), it sounds like he uses the book and goes power hungry. I think it would have been way more interesting if they built up the book as being the danger more than Magnifico, and he's a normal stressed out leader... until he feels becomes desperate and opens the book, and it POSSESSES HIM.
I was so hesitant on seeing this movie. They’ve been trying so hard to push/promote this movie everywhere soooo I’m not surprised it’s fumbling. Disney has been giving more misses than hits lately. A damn shame 🤷🏾♂️
I feel like it would've been cool if the Queen was like a god of wishes or had magic or something that let her do all the magical stuff, and her husband was manipulating her and using her for her magic. And the little star guy is also a humanoid god of wishes and is the Queen's son, and he helps Asha defeat the queen because the star is a rebel maybe? And it ends with them becoming the new king and queen.
I'd prefer them to both love each other, it would be so interesting to see these crazy evil folks actually making the best team and complementing each other, both really invested in that one goal. Like, I can imagine watching them and not being able to not love them despite them being evil. Sounds so fun to me.
12:23 while I do think making Star being a shapeshifter would've been cool, I've heard that concept art also says he was going to be Asha's romantic interest. If that'd been the case, it'd have ruined the film even more. As in, "Your wishes will only be granted by stars that are attracted to you." Also, with how much people complain about there being too many references to past Disney films (which I mean, have you seen Mario or Space Jam 2?), I honestly think people would've complained just as much about a shapeshifting Star being a ripoff of Aladdin's Genie (which was actually one of the contributing factors in their decision).
I haven't found the concept art that directly mentions a romance. I think some of the art could be read as romantic, especially for those that are into a Peter Pan/Jack Frost type. But they could have just as easily remain friends in the movie & let people have fun with fanart There is a quote from one of the writers I saw that says they were worried a talking shape-shifter would be too much like the genie, so they were real happy once they decided Star wouldn't talk cuz "Now Asha & Star have an emotional story. They're soulmates." which sounds weird cuz they seemed to have settled on a final design by then, but I can't imagine the Star toy we got in the movie to have an emotional connection with Asha. 😂
I also feel like people would complain that Asha makes a wish for "more than this" and she gets a love interest. But who knows? Maybe the movie would've had a different plot.
hinestly the love intereet thing is weird anyway cus the design everyine wants to use for the love interest is.... the design of her grandfather when he was younger. in the concepts these designs are meant to imply the imaginative and hopeful spirit of Sabo manifested as star , he dies in one concept of the story. so like. kinda weird. not with it. wouldn't be surprised thays also why it was dropped. (but they kept and repurposed the song lol)
@@stephanos6128 Wait a minute, boy Star was a younger version of Asha's grandfather Sabo? And people want her to fall in love with it? 🤢 I am so glad they chose not to.
@@andrewdowns3673 the designs people use when rewriting star boy are the ones that are implied to be her grandfather's spirit yes, not all the designs are but most of the blonde human boy definitely are. you can simply redesign it to avoid that entirely but they won't cus hes a tumblr sexy man kind of design and these folks wont pass up that mediocre hotness.
One spin off I’d love to see, of a very neglected character who is definitely NOT a quirky girl: Elevator pitch: Megara prequel movie/series written by the same writers as Daria. Megara herself would be one part Daria Morgendorffer, one part Cady Heron, and one part Veronica Sawyer. Megara’s life couldn’t be more perfect: popular, top of her class, editor of her university’s chronicle, amazing boyfriend, and she is apprenticing under a great philosopher and is a budding philosopher herself. She chronicles the learnings and wisdom she learns throughout the series. The series finale would culminate with the tragic death of her boyfriend and her pact with Hades - and the boyfriend wouldn’t just run off with another girl, but steal her writings and become a famous philosopher himself using them. The last scene of the series would literally be the camera zooming in on her face, her rolling her eyes and saying “crud”. Perfect segue to Hercules. Disney is sleeping on Megara. She is what we desperately need: a witty, sarcastic, and somewhat jaded protagonist.
What I think is more unbelievable is that THIS came from the same studio that made Encanto. And I love Encanto! That movie was sooooo good. I still sing the songs. Disney, WTH
My main issue isn't that the music was written by a pop star. The male members of Abba wrote the music for the critically and commercially acclaimed musical Chess, Andrew Lloyd Webber got his start writing concept albums like Jesus Christ Superstar and Evita and both he and older writers like Cole Porter and Irving Berlin were writing their songs just as much for the radio as they were the stage. And Disney has made great films where the soundtracks were written by pop artists and the songs fit the story and are well written (Elton John and Phil Collins in particular). The issue here is that Disney didn't give Julia Michaels enough time to write the songs. For their previous musical Encanto, Lin Manuel Miranda was writing songs for it off and on over four years, reworking them and altering them as the story was changed and characters were added or removed. Here, Julia Michaels had barely a year to write these songs, structure them and get them recorded and mixed. Some songs she openly admitted that she was only given three weeks to write. That's why the songs don't work, they all feel like first drafts that didn't get enough editing so that they'd work.
Maybe somebody at Disney saw Nimona and was like "Oh no! Someone already did the shapeshifter thing! Rewrite! Rewrite!!! ...And draw something cute for merch."
The main thing I noticed from the concept art and the final product is that they were afraid of giving Asha a romantic interest and making the queen a genuine disney evil villain. The ideas for this movie was extremely compelling with a humanoid star as the co-lead and a villainous power couple. It seems to me as if they were afraid to stray from the 'adorkable' and 'women can do no wrong' trope.
So Asha could’ve been the princess of an evil king and queen power couple, who summons a mute shape-shifting boy from the stars? And the higher ups thought *that* wouldn’t sell more?? They dumbed this concept down so much it’s insulting. I love Asha’s design and it sucks that she got placed in this movie
We were robbed of a shape shifting star boy. We were robbed of the king and queen being a vilain power couple. We were robbed of Aisha and Starboy having a cute romance. We were robbed of a movie with two loving couples. We. Were. Robbed. I love romance. I want more good romance in good movies pleaaaase
Looking foward to your 2nd review of Wish once the hate train calms down cause I really want to know what you would have done with the star boy if he was allowed to be an actual character
The star is a creepy knock-off luma from Super Mario Galaxy. It's design juxtaposed with everyone else looks soulless and almost like a floating skull.
Goddamn, thanks for making this video. I watched ONE negative review of Wish, so UA-cam has been bombarding my feed with other negative reviews of the movie made by jerks, bigots and grifters. Feels nice to see proper criticism without toxic rants about "woke disney in ruins" or "diversity bad" or whatever, jeez Looking forward to your future video about Wish!
So long as Disney (and most of Hollywood in fact) are more concerned with quantity over quality to feed the content pipeline, we’ll keep getting movies like Wish Movies like Encanto are increasingly becoming diamonds in the rough
Well also there’s no new inspiration anymore, everything is just referencing the past greatness, even guys stopped being attracted to women after seeing the most beautiful model ever… so the world is starving for new inspiration, not just referring to the past
Honestly I thought the movie was fine. I like it when I watched it in theaters. Honestly, I wish they did some of concept ideas. I really would have love to see the queen and king be the villians! Also the idea of Star becoming a human sounds really cool!
The Star and Asha romance was such a missed opportunity! But seeing how rushed this movie felt to me (everything felt fast-paced and quickly escalating), I don't think it would've been done justice. Plua seeing how they gave Magnifico a random 180 in the film, I doubt Amaya would've been done better.
While I was just as eager to get another classic, 2-dinensional Disney villain as the next guy. I believe it hurt the movie over all. I could see the skeleton of a better movie during Asha's & Magnifico's duel, "At All Cost", where we could of established that Magnifico dose care about protecting people's dream, but he believes preserving the Dreams are more important than helping the people who own the dream fulfil them, since once a dream is fulfilled it no longer exist, or even not live up to the dreamers expectations. Asha, meanwhile, sees that dream has no purpose if it is not pursued and people should be allowed to go after their dreams, even if they fall short of it, or doesn't live up to their expectations. You can see in "At All Cost" how Magnifico surrounds himself with the dreams, seeing them as a collective. While Ashe holds her grandfather's dream in her arms, treating it on a more personal level.
An authoritarian who says they will safe gaurd your wishes/dreams while actually utilizing such power for thier own personal gain is honestly an accurate way to describe what modern Disney feels like. So many inspiring stories, both original and reimaginings of cultural tales, shuved away in a copyright vault guarded by lawers for as long as they believe they can squeeze money out of it. This movie could have really been something
I feel like if this becomes a kingdom hearts level it'll be fun as hell because despite all of kingdom hearts fuckups, they do know how to make compelling characters and whimsy and that's what this movie is lacking
they should have went full traditional disney; broadway like songs, cute love story, despicable villain, and a protagonist that combines the personalities from the golden age, silver age, and the renaissance.
We were robbed. What would’ve worked more was if the king and queen were both evil and Asha was their daughter. Then Asha would’ve grown up thinking that keeping the wishes was the right thing and star boy had to help show her the right way. Also it would add a lot more to Asha’s character by standing against her parents since for all the other Disney princesses with evil parents they’re always stepparents (Lady Tremaine, Evil Queen, and Gothel). So the fact that a princesses actual parents are evil would’ve been so cool. I get wanting villains like the Evil Queen back but Magnifico should've been the sympathetic villain that is way too overprotective and wants to protect everyone due to his own trauma Also I wouldn't make Asha quirky I mean she can definitely have somethings but not as much as they did. I would make her more similar to Elsa and Mulan personality rather than Anna and Rapunzel. I would also change Asha's color palette purple reminds me too much of Rapunzel and Isabella. I wish they stuck with the orange red color palette from the concept art I actually liked the seven dwarves reference but instead make them people that Asha helps along the way
As someone who didn’t care for wish but adored once upon a studio. Hear me out, turning once upon a studio into a full movie. Like it could be animated but just a Disney animation studio and someone touches Walt’s desk and a sketchbook of characters come to life? That would have been an actually good movie idea-
i really feel like this movie could pass as one of those poorly animated random netflix movies (like that red shoe movie) that you find when looking for something to watch.
Can we talk about how In This Wish, the last time where Asha goes “So I make this wish, to have something mote for us than this” the last “this” just so clearly needs to be a drawn out note instead of whatever that was.
I honestly feel like modern Disney is a testament to what happens when a studio becomes far too greedy for its own good. Not only does it start valuing quantity over quality, but it also becomes reluctant to make any creative decisions that have even the slightest possibility of losing its projects money. As a result, most of its projects aren't even bad, but rather mediocre slogs that ironically still lose money anyway because they're just so freaking boring
The thing is, they are a publicly traded company and CEOs are tasked with one thing: ensuring growth. Growth doesn’t just mean being profitable… turning a profit is easy… ensuring that profit is growing every single year is hard. Someone like Bob Iger literally cannot afford to think “if it’s not broken, don’t fix it” cause every single year he is tasked with how to ensure something not broken can work even better… and thereby you run into the issue that the market cannot bear so much, especially with inflation - and the ways executives try and meddle often make things worse. In short, we can blame capitalism’s endless pursuit of infinite growth.
@@charlesterry2480 Disney suffers from two problems, one they are so big that if a film is just ok at the box office, it's not good enough. Back then they were less powerful, they more forgiving if a film wasn't a huge hit.
The second, what made Disney so great in the 90's is that know one could compete with them at all, Anastasia is the only one that came close. Now a day's there is too much competition that Disney has completely lost the will to take risks anymore and want to play it safe. What's the point in making a master piece if any wrong move could have it be overshadowed by another amazing film??? It's a classic case of ( This town ain't big enough for the two of us!!!!!!)
Far too greedy. Far too woke. They are afraid of offending people.. This is why we didn't have a real villain for years. This is why no woman can be bad and no poc character can be the traitor or the liar... Their creativity freedom is gone.. They are hostage to very strict rules created by sick activists that don't care about art
@@FabsHF you sound deranged and I hope you get better about that
There’s been a major decline in meritocracy hiring practices in the animation industry, people don’t have to do the mandatory proof of ability tests to gain access to the job, which is made worse by all the nepo-baby college grads getting fast tracked into high ranking positions because they had access to stupendously expensive colleges that have exclusive, privileged “connections” to get them access to jobs (with Disney in particular) and these graduates then just hire their college friends who also are exempt from mandatory quality tests. These cliques are then just hiring each other in every job thereafter, eroding industry standards on every project they gain control over.
Absolutely nothing should matter except the proof of one’s ability, as soon as you take away a “the artist proven to be the best gets the job” framework, as well as upholding a quality threshold no team member is exempt from, you are going to instead be left with productions of inconsistent quality, with no guarantee everyone on the team is capable of the monumental tasks entrusted to them, or that they were ever the “best” person for that job to begin with.
This malignant industry hiring practice is especially prevalent in Pre Production, so it’s unsurprising storytelling/plot and character arcs are the biggest problems in modern era animation.
I suppose it says a lot about the heads of these companies with how hands-off they are on quality, so long as quantity quotas are met and the company is profitable (at least long enough for them to make their personal wealth and retire) they simply have no reason to be bothered upholding a company’s legacy reputation. Animation is now just a soulless shell of a formerly phenomenal industry 😢
This movie reeks of corporate meddling...
Star could have been an actual, developed character beyond toy fodder? King and Queen could have been an evil villain duo?? The creativity was in the room, I just don't think it was allowed to speak in the final project.
just say disabled in the future - a disabled person
It's not just corporate meddling. All of the songs were written by AI, Asha is a Mary Sue, King Magnifico was in the right, the evil book of spells was pulled out of Disney's ass, and none of the wishes here are portayed as evil when there very much is such thing as bad wishes.
I saw one comment saying that Starboy should've been a developed, specifically non-binary character, the consideration of that thought made me feel very happy as a non-binary person myself.
I commented underneath that comment trying to build on this premise. It makes sense to me that this character *would* be non-binary/agender because gender is a human concept.
I thought it would be very interesting for Asha to ask how she should refer to Star in terms of gender (which pronouns), only for Star to become confused because what is gender to a star? Maybe Asha tries to briefly explain gender and at the question of "are you a boy or a girl?" Star just looks confused and answers, "I'm a star" and that's the end of it for them.
@Flyboy1953it is honestly a preference. As an AuDHD individual, I prefer identity first language because it's part of who I am and we should honestly destigmatize the term "disabled" anyway. If you prefer PFL, that's your preference and it needs to be respected.
The part that makes me so angry about star boy is that they ALREADY had a sidekick character, they didn't need to make him one, they could've done plenty of merch with just the goat. Ugh.
A thing I haven't' seen brought up yet is how hollow the wishes are.
They're like "I wish to be able to fly", or "I wish to become a knight" or even just "I wish to create something great". These are the greatest concerns of these people. They seem to live in a bubble and have no real problem to speak of. Is there nobody that wished like "I wish my sick relative was sane again" or "I wish our house didn't crumble" or "I wish my parent could come back to life"? I mean... any situation where an almost omnipotent sorcerer would represent a true blessing?
Also Amaya should have been evil.
True, but one of the wishes in the "I Will Protect You" song was a man Wishing for a family. So... the film does have wishes you were wanting, albeit sparse.
Though it'd have been great if Asha's mother's wish was for her husband to not be sick anymore.
@@andrewdowns3673 that’s still above… basic survival. What I intended was more akin to “I need this Wish or someone will die”
THIS is kinda Magnifico's whole point during his first 10 minutes in the movie (and right before his song): people are selfish, and some wishes are vague. When Magnifico asks about the star, their first thoughts are to their wishes and having another ceremony, which frustrates him further.
@@andrewdowns3673Also in Magnifico’s own song he specifically mentions stopping someone’s house from crumbling.
@@off-the-grounder568 Yeah, he does!
Also, I just realized something: the wishes Magnifico pulls out aren't meant to be situational needs like a house falling or wanting a sick person to get better. The wishes are supposed to be one's core ambition in life (like all five of Inside Out Riley's core memories/personality islands). No matter how much a person may want their house to not crumble, that's not going to be their core ambition in life (for example let's use Miguel from Coco; wouldn't matter if his house was crumbling, his core wish would be to be a musician).
However, that does call into question the man that wanted a family.
I swear theses executives need to let their creatives have time to make their movies
They just need to leave their creatives ALONE
Aren't they saying this film was in production for 6-8 years?
@@OpticalSorcererNot having enough time to flesh ideas out is exactly what happened to Frozen 2
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@@HickoryDickory86 tf there's no way with how this movie ended up. unless execs kept changing it midway production or something. mustve been in production hell a bit.
The part about him bein in a room of full of villains and shoving him into the locker had me snorting with laughter.
Where don’t remember that scene
Gaston would be the first one to punch him
Did that really happen? If so that's so awesome!!
He said he imagined that would happen. @@janisaherrera4597
@@THEINFINITIVERSESAGA 16:46 right here! Here ya go
The film felt rushed: Magnifico's past (and motivations before he did a 180), Asha's dad, Simon's betrayal, Sakina's wish, and Magnifico turning on Rosas were just some of the underdeveloped things that made for a poor film.
I agree, well, not as super rushed as Sonic 06 and possibly Space Jam: A New Legacy
@@charlesterry2480 My issue with "Encanto" was that since the focus was mainly on Mirabel and she had a dozen other family members, Luisa, Isabela, and Dolores' arcs felt very rushed and condensed.
@@charlesterry2480 I'd be open to it, but the main story might lag and it'd be an unattractive run time for a "kid's movie"--plus this came out at the height of the pandemic, which would further make it difficult.
The drawings look beautiful though ☺️
Wait, who's Sakina?
What’s disgusting is that THE day the movie came out i went to the mall and immediately saw toys of the goat.
it’s *almost* as if the goat was only created for that reason.
Can we agree that the goat is ugly af?
I saw merch for the goat before the movie was even out. At the time I hadn’t even seen a trailer for it.
I feel like the pig (Pua) in Moana is a similar case - was a heavy part of the marketing to push merch, then is only on screen at the beginning and end (with HeiHei taking the more prominent animal sidekick role)
They should've pushed Star toys instead. Srsly who the f is in Disney's marketing team and why aren't they fired yet?
@@mollymcdade4031 That has bothered me the most throughout the years after watching Moana, I liked the movie but it was hella weird how prominent the pig seemed in trailers and the beginning, only for the roster to be the sidekick? (I dont mind bc he is a funny one but was it supposed to be a misdirect or smth?)
Pretty sure all the broadway girlies are chained to a desk writing frozen 3 and 4 😂
As a HUGE fan of the first one, and severely disappointed in the second one, I am appalled they are even making not one but TWO more.
Wait… back up…
*TWO?!*
@@MoonlarkSpirits I'm not sure if their making 3 and 4. I was being hyperbolic. Edit : they are making frozen 3
Poor souls. May their sacrifice bear successful fruit of an actually good Frozen 3 & 4. [Psst: Please introduce other sorcerous girls with seasonal powers to go along with Elsa's winter magic!]
@@MoonlarkSpirits Probably a 2 parter.
Better be good or we're gonna see another Wish box office bombing.
I've been excited for Wish since Asha was announced and genuinely enjoyed it. Then I found out all of the concepts that didn't make it into the movie. Star was supposed to be a mute shapeshifter boy and a possible romantic interest for Asha. Amaya was supposed to be evil as well, and Asha was SUPPOSED TO BE THE DAUGHTER OF MAGNIFICO AND AMAYA. We were absolutely robbed. Now, I'm mad about how much more it could've been! I make this wish for Wish to have something more than this! Come on!
WE WERE ROBBED FOR REAL
ROBBED OF A DISABLED SUPERNATURAL FRIEND/LOVE INTEREST
ROBBED OF A EVIL COUPLE THAT HAS A FUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHP
ROBBED OF A BRAVE CHILD WHO STANDS UP AGAINST THEIR PARENTS
Wait Asha was supposed to be the kid of an evil power couple? That would have been really spicy ngl especially if they were genuinely good parents who love their kid.
Ykw how about writers just take the concepts bc Disney absolutely fumbled not including those
i thought that she was 😭 wtf
That would be so awesome. The protagonist falling in love with a shapeshifter boy made out of starlight? Heck yes. And an evil power couple would've been the coolest thing ever, I want this movie to be made so badly.
The fact that Minions had the balls to have an evil couple than Disney says a lot
Obviously not saying they can’t do a Wish theme, it makes sense with the whole “dream is a wish your heart makes” legacy, but just a year after Puss in Boots The Last Wish put out a damn near perfect wish story, they were setting themselves up for failure. They needed to focus on something else or make this well… better than Puss.
Rapunzels awkward adorkableness comes from her being sheltered. So there's an actual reason she's awkward and somewhat adorably naive. Story wise there was a reason for it. Now it's just become a trait to slap onto every female character.
Hers and Anna’s personalities were completely justified fr
@@_argh.1 Maribel lives in an isolated village as well as being the only magicless girl in a magical family are good reasons
@@avidreader4140 and her
@@avidreader4140I always felt mirabel’s personality was an overcompensation for her lack of gift. Once she really starts trying to save the wish I feel like a lot of the adorkablness went away/ was very subdued
@@pucamiscim fairly certain it is overcompensation. when shes by herself or doesnt feel the need to perform, shes pretty sassy and sarcastic. shes got more to her than just being "quirky" which...honestly, i wouldnt even call her quirky. just awkward.
One of the little things that took me out of this movie was when they showed a close-up of Asha's hands, and she DOESN'T HAVE FINGERNAILS?!?! C'mon, Disney. You spent millions of dollars making sure Rapunzel's hair looked as realistic as possible and probably spent a million more making sure we can see every pore on Elsa's face. Where did the budget for this movie go?
Allegedly (according to the production manager for this film on Twitter) this movie was heavily impacted by the layoffs that Disney did earlier this year
Which... may explain the shoddy animation. I imagine the animators were stretched paper thin trying to complete this film within the year, and Disney wanted them to push it out before the end of 2023 at all costs.
Not to mention they animated MERIDA'S hair 👁️👄👁️
as much as i hate this movie that was probably more so cus the animation they were ✨️ Inspired By ✨️ did not really have fingernails. yknow considering 2d fingernails would be hard to do cus theyre so small but I'm pretty sure even 2D animated princesses had nails. i know some had sharp fingers to give the illusion of nails...
ah that aside it's not really meant to be hyper realsitic, that Im cool with what im not cool with is the fact they couldn't sell it well for it to look good. and every other technical animation issue with this movie
@@claaaiiouthat was Pixar, not Disney. Completely different studio made by completely different people on the complete opposite side of the state.
@@fanime1 Merida appeared in Wreck-It-Ralph 2, which was made by Disney
Y'know...we DID have a Disney movie heroine that wasn't another quirky stereotype. Her name was Raya. She was mature and headstrong, but had major trust issues. It was seriously a refreshing change of pace.
But even her character was poorly written. Mainly thanks to Sisu. And she was the quirky stereotype instead, but in the worst way possible.
God, Raya should have been so much better. The aesthetics were cool, the feel if the movie seemed so different, yet instead we get Gaslight The Movie... The message of that movie was AWFUL in the context of what happened.
Disney's problem is that it should be making TV shows, not movies. Raya, Encanto, and Wish had way too much story material for one-off movies. @@Ombby
I really liked Raya's character. I could not stand Sisu or the fact that the message of the movie seemed to be blaming Raya for not trusting someone that has repeatedly betrayed her and made no effort to make things better by acting like the burden should have been on Raya (the one who was betrayed and lost her family and kingdom) to make things right and not the person responsible for her loss. Someone had a good idea on how it should have been Raya who stole the orb thing at the beginning for her kingdom and then the rest of the movie was her trying to make things right. Which would explain Namari's distrust of her. Also, they could have had Sisu not talk.
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@@GuineaPig361 That's something I tell my little brother every time we watch Disney movies lately. It's always "these stories are too big to be contained in 1 to 2 hours." Especially Raya since it was an Avatar style adventure story with a pretty big world and ensemble cast.
We were robbed of the villain couple!
I never knew I needed this 🤔 I would love a villain couple with a duet backstory song.
Seeing how they started off making Magnifico complex only to make him basic, I doubt a villain couple would've been done right.
Well I don’t want to see a couple villains kissing or making out
Asha was going to be his daughter too
@@QueenAvacado Was this confirmed? If so, where?
Im surprised that Nintendo hasn’t sued Disney over that Star because that looks actually like a damn Luma!!
Surprised this wasn’t brought up more often
It really does 😂
Don't forget Stardust!
I think the design of it isn't unique enough to be trademarked or whatever. It's a basic star graphic (which is basically public domain) with generic facial expressions (also basically public domain).
Guys if Amaya was evil you know what else we would have gotten? A duet villain song between a couple. A duet villain song. How amazing would that have been???
I have storyboards that kind of repurpose the At All Cost song with Magnifeco singing it to Amaya either as manipulation or genuinely trying to keep her to stay and join him out of love, i haven't decided yet (Asha solo stays but its in a different context now).
Ahhhh stop making me cry for what never was!!! 😢
Btw, slight remedy: Watching the improvised villain duet "You know what I mean" from Mischief Movie Night In (improvised "movies" done and filmed by a British comedy/theatre group called Mischief theatre).
They have made up some incredible villain songs along the way but this one I particularly enjoy, you can find it on here!
Yeah and Amaya could've had a whole backstory instead of just being a decoration.
For me, Wish was a movie with potential that was wasted. There were so many more creative directions they could have gone; I listened to one review that suggested Asha could have been Magnifico's daughter, the princess of the kingdom who was raised to see her father as a miracle worker just like the rest of the people. But then, when she came of age and learned of what her father was really like, she could have rebelled against his rule and worked to restore the people's wishes because she felt it was her duty to her people. You would then also have the added drama of having to fight her family in order to do what was right for her people.
Reminds me of the little mermaid with the family relationship. Always though the plot in the little mermaid was weak but compared to Wish its amazing.
It also would have made more sense than the king revealing himself to someone who's just applying to be his assistant!
Fun fact: Trolls Band together (the third movie of the franchises), made 200 millions dollars in the box office, and the audience score is 91% approval
People like trolls 3 better, than the 100 yeas celebration of Disney.
Granted, the trolls franchise is a lot of fun and Band together is the best of the 3, but my god.
Winning this hard against Disney is hilarious
Dreamworks destroying Disney has become quite fun to watch.
I mean it does have what Wish was missing out on…
*NSYNC.
Hayao Miyazaki's new film also did better than Wish in both box office and critical reception. Heck, even the Adam Sandler lizard movie had a better critcal reception than Wish and it didn't even go to theaters.
@@ObservingPaul678imagine if Disney brought back NSync to do the music for Wish. At least the villain song would have actually been good.
@@fanime1 Didn’t they have NSYNC in Turning Red?
A Hollow Wish is the truest and saddest way to call this movie.
Cinderella once said "A dream is a wish your heart makes"
The thing is, there was no heart put in this 100th Anniversary Wish. And Walt would be heartbroken knowing how this dream would never see the light.
Makes you wish that Disney will finally stop and learn.
They probably will, given that this is the first time a fantasy musical has failed. My only concern is that this might make them retire the fantasy-musical idea for a while, similar to how "Sleeping Beauty" put them off of fairy tales for 30 years after it failed at the box office.
@@OpticalSorcererthey probably won’t. It’s not like one movie fail can affect them too much considering their multimillionaires
@@bumblebeeproductions1673but it’s not just been 1 movie. Disney’s movies have been flopping for years and they’ve been losing money. If i suspect right it won’t be long now til they turn around
@@bumblebeeproductions1673It kinda does. WDAS made 3 billion dollar movies in the past decade (Frozen, Zootopia, and Frozen 2), which is still a feat for animated films today. The underperformance of "Strange World" and "Wish" is gonna cost them money, so they'll have to go back to the drawing board.
First Time?
The star originally being a shapeshifting Peter Pan esque character AND Asha's love interest fucks so hard and I'm so mad it got scrapped. Unless I'm wrong we've yet had a disney movie with a poc female lead where romance played a big part and disney made their brand on fairy tale romance so like, that's your fucking callback you love so much!! A fantastical love story between a celestial magical being and normal girl who loves dreams and wishes, what's not to enjoy?!
+Saying Magnifico feels like a twist villain really hit the nail on the head for me. He doesn't Look like a disney villain, he looks like your everyday goodhearted ruler. His design reminds me of Rapunzel's parents, rulers who stick out just enough for the role they play in the story, but not when they're meant to be the main villain.
The Princess and the Frog doesn't count? Tiana and Prince Naveen were both black and they end up together.
@@MyaKHamiltonyeah but they also kinda turned into frogs for most of the movie sooo 🤷♀️
@@MyaKHamiltonStayed frogs 90% of the movie tho lmfao
disney really does have the best concepts but the worst executions huh. starboy x asha could've been SO GOOD.
@@MyaKHamilton btw naveen is south asian, not black.
If you look at it as a Disney critique veiled under a metaphor, then yes - *near perfect.*
Wishes = scripts. Magnifico = The Disney Company
Maybe this is how the movie really is meant to be read? (Just like "Pokemon: Sun and Moon" apparently has a critique of typical Pokemon player in the character of Lusamine).
If that was the goal of the film, I'm curious how they got away with releasing it at all
I think this movie should be a lesson that archetypes are no substitution for actual characters, and references are no substitution for actual writing.
The Star being a celestial shapeshifter would've been EPIC! Also could be like a cute brother and sister bonding with him and Asha. His previous design looked so cute and mesmerizing! But no instead we got Disney mascot Number 100,542.
Nah, romantic interest was in the cards for this, but it was fucked off because of the goddamn current thought process that people don't like romance. We do. And... it could have been a tragic sort of romance.
@BrokensoulRider Like he can't be together with Asha? Oh dude that could've opened so much opportunities!!
He's a literal wishing star, and she's a human. And in line with the movie, him being there would probably be too dangerous, so he'd have to leave her. It sets up a bittersweet ending, one that could have hope, especially since she's apparently the main Fairy Godmother?@@chocoberryvanillacake4297
@@chocoberryvanillacake4297 But nah, we gotta make him the amalgamation of Tinker Bell meets Kirby as well as the Lumas.
@pennysanchez7656 The unfortunate thing about it is that those 3 characters give me joy, and yet this star had the opposite effect😑
You know, they could have made Asha the Queen Daughter and Magnifico her stepfather, and they would have a bigger conflict about what they would think it's right for the people?
It's a simple change that would make her motivation stronger, she doesn't agree how the kingdom is being ruled and rebels against both of her parents.
It would have brought a depth that is lacking, since they also don't spend time with her mom and grandfather.
Sure, it might have fallen onto generational trauma a little bit, but it could work, a girl that was raised in a bubble only to realize her parents are terrible people, it's more interesting, and it's something Disney never truly explored, AND it would reference - Snow White, having a evil Queen, Cinderella- an evil Step Parent AND Rapunzel, by making Asha living is “safe” bubble.
Because, to be honest, when the promotional stuff started coming out I truly thought Asha was the Queen's daughter and Magnifico her stepdad, because she is more around them than her actual family.
A problem I have is that they only go with "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" to show Asha that Magnifico is hanging onto the wishes. The could've ran with a Fantasia-like plot where Asha BECOMES his apprentice and things spin out of control when she grants wishes irresponsibly.
Holy crud, that is exactly what I thought was going to happen in the film!!! Ever since the film was announced, I swear I heard she was gonna be a princess and that she was the daughter of the queen and her stepfather was the king and the villain.
But then the movie came out and I'm like, "Ok... Disney chose to not make the obvious new Spain-latino princess a princess for... unknown reasons. That's a... weird choice. Well, maybe the family they gave her instead will be interes- and, aside from the grandfather being an allegory for Disney's centennial, they're boring as all hell."
Well Magnifico could’ve been the prince too so we honestly could’ve gotten that to
They could also go for Alladin with evil sorcerer, who wants control.
They could even went for twisted villain with this one. Suggesting that he just manipulates Queen like Jafar manipulated Sutan, and then on crucial moment revel that Queen is perfectly aware of Magnifico's actions and she supports him...
They could have done so much, it's sad.
@@lilik7323 Ooo, an evil couple that are Jafar-like advisors to King Magnifico (a good version) and Queen Amaya. That'd have been cool!
I don’t like asha a lot. I feel like she doesn’t learn anything throughout the story, shes just good
She definitely is written as a one-dimensional character, because her only character is that she's heroic and good and like her entire character is a combination of quirky Disney princesses, which might I add, have actual depth to them
I find her whole deal at best problematic. I mean I know what she becomes in the end, so it makes sense for her to want wishes to be granted. That said, I completly understand Magnificos side. Might be because we had much better Stories, showing us how granting every wish might not be the greatest Idea.
I've heard this argument before - that she had no character development at all, that she was the exact same person in the beginning of the story as she was in the end.
Well, to be fair, she did have one tiny change I believe, but the change felt so insignificant, it's understandable viewers miss it. Maybe they should have highlighted it more, but perhaps Disney was afraid it would put Asha in a bad light...
Come to think of it now, they should have done it so she could have had some more visible arc in her character, plus it might be a good comparison with the villain.
What am I talking about?
People have noted this but they forget it soon enough: she was a bit selfish in the beginning. She was only really focusing on her grandfather's wish and no one else's. She went and stole her grandpa's wish in the beginning, failed to grab her mother's, and then they were going to run off and abandon everyone else. The scene in the boat where she changes her mind and resolves to go back and save everyone else's wish should have felt more pivotal, but it was forgettable. I've watched a few reviews of this movie and barely anyone mentions that scene...
They maybe should have highlighted Asha's selfishness more. Maybe instead of her being quirky and nice, they made her super assertive and wanting things done her way. And maybe with that personality, she demanded more from Magnifico like insisted that if he's not going to fulfill all the wishes, then at least give her back her grandpa's and her mom's and make her clearly say she doesn't care about anyone else's wish... and then realize later that she was being selfish and that's wrong and she resolves to change...
Idk.
As I mentioned elsewhere in these comments, this story was half-baked and could have benefited from a few more brain-storming sessions and tweaking in the writer's room.
She is good from the very beginning because WOMEN ARE GOOD AND AWESOME! YOU GO GIRL!.. And this is how wokeness ruined female character development... Rey, Captain Marvel, Galadriel.. All bland and boring
@@FabsHF I’m so fucking sick of ppl using “woke/wokeness” as a term to describe mediocre media that trip over their attempts at progressive themes. And I bet that even if I give an in-depth explanation of the term “woke” and it’s history alongside the shallow attempts from neoliberal writers to include diversity or female-centered media, you’d still ignore it.
People are upset that there was a missed opportunity for the queen to be evil and part of a villain power couple with her husband, but I'd argue that her being good was also something Disney hasn't explored. We've had evil stepmothers marrying good men, but we've never had a villain's spouse forced to realize that the person they wanted to share their life with is not a good person. Here we have a princess who lived happily ever after with her prince, and decades later, all the good in him fizzled out until she had to go against him after he drew a weapon on her for trying to talk him down. This is heartbreaking, this is dramatic, but the movie barely wants to acknowledge her, so it has no impact. Knowing What I Know Now should have been HER song, not the song of a bunch of teenagers with a queen guest appearance. I don't care how cute your ragtag teens are, give her a moment!
That would have been cool.
This movie is a pandering amalgomation of every disney princess movie and encanto . Like I can't even. This is bottom shelf creativity.
Creativity, inspiration are DEAD, bc everything’s been done, heck even romantic inspiration is dead after that most beautiful model in the world, she blinded everyone, with the best photography ever. So the world seems starved for wholesomeness and genuineness, but without realizing it, bc everyone’s just edgy and nostalgia baiting for past greatness…
Behold, Disney’s “Winx Season 6”. 😅 They even have their own Legendarium. 😆
Lol
OMG 🤣🤣🤣 Underrated comment! Seasons 6, 7 and 8 can burn in hell
More like season 8 on a some What good day😊😂
"That NASTY Legendarium"
You're not wrong 😂
They should have taken a page from Kirby's adventure and have him lock all the wishes up because of an evil wish made of malice he had to trap.
King Dedede >>>>> King Magnifico in all aspects
@@Toon_Topaz He's basically King Magnifico done right.
Edit: Actually now that I think of it no, he's more like Queen Seraphina.
why would he need to trap them all couldn't he just trap the bad one?
@@vinnyfromvenus8188 It depends how the wishes worked. If it was just like the movie... then yeh roll credits.
But my idea has the wishes all just appear around the kingdom like fire flies, It'd make the land more unique & make kids wish they could run around the magical land seeing them fly around looking pretty, (Also opens up a sequel where a jerk face could want to destroy them cause they're evil)
I feel like this film was the embodiment of that song from the starkid musical ‘Twisted’ where the townsfolk sing about how you should just wish for things instead of working towards your goals.
Why can't they merge the grandfather, father and mother into one character. Then they could be an actual character we can feel for
Or like… give us ANY time with any of these characters. That could also work.
Seriously, a ten minute prologue where we show their family together and can get a sense of their relationship would work perfectly
To be honest Asha's song about wanting things better than this comes off as spoiled. Rosas is a world with no poverty, no racism, no sexism, no witch in a time where all that was rampant. Yes, Rosas isn't perfect but it seems much better than other worlds. Tiana, Mulan, Meg, Cinderella, Esmeralda, Kida, Merida and even Snow White would be giving Asha the BOMBASTIC SIDE-EYE big time.
I know this comment is a month old, but I've read many comments on different videos about why Wish failed, and you are the ONLY one to point this out. You're right; it does come off as spoiled. She pretty much lives in a utopian society but seems to take that for granted. She has first-world problems. And this would have been a GREAT character flaw to lean into. We could have had a plot that combined the sayings, "Be careful what you wish for" and "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." What if Magnifico had good reason to lock some wishes away? And Asha, being our stubborn, idealistic hero, who doesn't like hearing no and thinks she knows better, on her own, could have set off a catastrophic reaction after making some wishes come true. We could have had a celestial starboy love story and a hero who actually was capable of learning and growing, but we instead got mid, forgettable trash.
I love the idea of a villain couple, but if this movie had manifested wishes that became dangerous, you wouldn't need a bad guy; the wishes could provide the story's conflict. We were robbed.
I know this is a 3 month old reply, but I could recommend a few videos about how Wish basically celebrates and condones complete immorality: "Disney's Wish: an Immoral and Dangerous Message" by The Dragons Treasure, and "Wish is Everything Wrong with Disney" by Manga Writer. Dragons Treasure's vid is a lot shorter, but Manga Writer goes into how even the music sounds like its tone is backwards.
Glad ya like the concept of the story (the way the wishes work, Asha, and the concept art of the evil King and Queen) and I can't wait to see what ya come up with for your rewrite.
My question is why does Magnifico even need an apprentice in the first place--and how Asha was a candidate when Magnifico knew almost nothing about her.
@@OpticalSorcerer 🤷♂️ good question.
A friend and I (who are also working on a rewrite) had the idea of instead making Asha the princess of Rosas (which I swear I heard was the case during production). Therefore she's not just a random apprentice but Magnifico's daughter who would be taking over her dad's job. She loves the people of her kingdom and finds out her dad is hording wishes.
We also came up with the idea of the Queen being the King's wish- she died in his backstory and his wish was for her to come back to life.
@@andrewdowns3673 I like the idea of Magnifico being Asha's dad, though I have two concerns (I hope you don't mind me sharing unsolicited feedback):
1. Magnifico and Amaya seem to age naturally, which means Rosas was built somewhat recently, but the film never dives into where Sakina or Sabino came from before Rosas and how special it is to them enough to stay--despite never getting their wishes granted. You'd think Asha's family would get more attention, yet they don't. I worry that if the writing style stayed the same, Amaya and Magnifico wouldn't be much mpre fleshed out. (This doesn't include your rewrite, though.)
2. Amaya being a product of Magnifico's wish seems to undermine his valid point that some wishes are dangerous and thus why he hoardes them. One of my biggest issues with "Wish" is how he has a valid point, but his childhood, how he met Amaya, and how he gained powers are never explained--not to mention the fact that learned magic while Star gave it to Asha via a wand. Magnifico being a hypocrite by making a dangerous wish weakens the message of the film, imo. Though I do like the idea that Asha brings Amaya back to life herself to prove her point and has to deal with the consequences of messing with life and death. I'd love a callback to "The Little Mermaid" with the father-daughter story.
@@OpticalSorcerer Don't mind at all; all shared unsolicited feedback is welcome.
1. Well, with Amaya and Magnifico being her parents they would be more fleshed out. And I'd have Magnifico be visibly younger in the flashback and noticeably older in the present day of the film- say round RDJ's age. So Rosas would be about 30 years old since its founding. As for Sabino- he'd be a kind old citizen of the kingdom that Asha knows (might make him Dalia's grandfather actually now that I'm writing this). As for Sakina- nothing to work form the film so, sad to say but she'll be excluded.
2. "Amaya being a product of Magnifico's wish seems to undermine his valid point that some wishes are dangerous and thus why he hoards them." How so? I genuinely don't see a problem with that, especially since some people have been saying that the wishes were to bland and none of them were for things like "I wish my loved one was not sick anymore." So I'd love to hear more on your thoughts on why its bad.
"Though I do like the idea that Asha brings Amaya back to life herself to prove her point and has to deal with the consequences of messing with life and death. I'd love a callback to "The Little Mermaid" with the father-daughter story." Ooo, that's good.
Also, while writing this I came up with an idea: I know that people are mad that the evil King and Queen duo was scrapped and there are some roadblocking issues with making Asha Magnifico's daughter and how he has some valid points, so what about this: instead of Asha being Magnifico's apprentice, he has a husband-wife apprentice duo. Magnifico could then be more like King Triton so his valid reasoning for not granting all wishes works and to go along with that father-daughter story idea ya mentioned, while the new 'Morticia and Gomez' villainous apprentices don't value the wishes of others and just want the power in them so they can take over the kingdom for themselves.
@@andrewdowns3673
1. It'd be fun to see the dynamic between Asha and her parents--though since she is North African on her mom's side, it would be nice to keep her as a POC (maybe Magnifico is Middle Eastern or Amaya is Afro-Indigenous or something like that). Honestly it's weird that they didn't make Asha Romani, given Spain has one of the largest Romani populations and Valentino seems like a reference to Djali. Sabino being Dahlia's grandfather does seem better, as well as fleshing out the Teens a little bit more (Dahlia cooks for the king, but that feels like a side thing).
2. What I mean is that Magnifico is bringing someone back from the dead. That's kind of a no-no with wish granting that can get out of hand, AKA a dangerous wish he wouldn't want to grant. I do agree about healing others and more adventurous wishes, though; this could fuel Magnifico's ideology. With the daddy-daughter story, I'd flip the script a bit (not saying you need to do this, btw); lean into Magnifico's manic/humorous side that contrasts with his professional image of a serious and wise king while Asha is more serious and less adorkable, akin to Belle, Tiana, and Pocahontas.
And plot twist idea that I should do if I ever do a rewrite; instead of an evil couple (Asha, the royals, her friends, Valentino, and Sabino are a lot of hands in the pot already), maybe Amaya was a queen who fell into evil, become a Maleficent-like figure Magnifico had to kill, but spread a positive image about her once she died. When Asha revives her via the wish, only she can defeat Amaya, who is immune to Magnifico's powers, and she manages to curropt him. Since Magnifico has a valid point, it's hard for Asha (and the audience) to be able to tell he's evil until it's too late.
NGL I'm mad because so many people have better ideas for this film than what we got.
This is what Chapek does. He rushes creative people into releasing content ASAP instead of letting them do their job in their own pace. The animation studios, Marvel, Star Wars. Good effing riddance.
Wrong Bob, Iger has returned, but this still applies.
Chapek's been gone for a little while now, but Iger doesn't seem to make the same good decisions from his first tenure.
Iger never left. He set it up to have oversight over Cheapek at all times and never let him have any actual power except to throw him under the bus when Iger's decisions inevitably failed
No, Iger is doing this too. Most of these problems are due to Iger forcing Disney into the streaming bubble.
Also, Iger was always there. He just wasn't the face for a bit.
@@OpticalSorcererWhat do you mean?
Maybe one of the themes of this movie could be that it's okay if your dreams don't always come true, where her grandpa is dying and all asha wants is to give him that one last wish. Where the entire movie is her trying to make that wish come true until magnifico breaks it in front of her eyes. The wish that she wanted to preserve, the wish that meant so much to her is destroyed. So when she escaped, when they save the day, she went back to the hospital to see her grandpa dying...yet smiling? He wanted to look at her one last time and told her that he had a blissful life. It confused Asha, led her to ask him so many questions especially about his wish that made him laugh. And in his final breath he told her that it was okay, wish granted or not he was still blessed to have such an amazing granddaughter and family. That a wish wasn't the end of the world and she could still have a great life without one. Before dying in the bed saying that he loves her.
How did this one comment make me feel more than the entirety of the actual movie?
I can’t help but to laugh when I think about this; the tagline on the poster says “be careful what you wish for” but the very last line in the movie is “just keep wishing.” It completely contradicts itself!
I’ll say that none of the children laughed at the jokes and it’s almost like if you prevent the people who know what their doing form doing their thing you’re gonna get a bad outcome, just a thought.
I don't have problem with the movie.
I just have problem with Disney in general.
The movie is OK whatever.
But it's just Disney itself. I think we're trying not to give them the credit. Cus they have been disappointing us.
I think we're low-key trying to put Disney down so they can stop with their shenanigans likes stealing people's ideas and getting away with it. You know.
Yep. True to that.
What proof do you have that they steal from other people?
Yeah. From what I'm seeing more and more reviews (from actual intellectuals and not trolls) is that they're more disappointed with Disney and not Wish. Which, with their treatment of properties and giving more attention to the live-action remakes, is understandable and valid.
People know good and well that if Wish was made by a different studio, people would dismiss it as another bland movie. But because it's Disney, they act like it's a hellspawn.
@@Stew91 Yup.
WE WERE ROBBED OF STAR BOY. think of the EDITS.
I just want a classic Disney fairy tale again. Maybe Red Riding Hood where the Wolf has a song like the Fox from Pinocchio.
Also, how did we do from HELLFIRE to “I’ll let you live here for free, and I don’t even charge you rent”???
What do Frollo and Asha have in common? Both are motivated primarily by pride.
I'm thinking that this movie is more of an allegory of how Disney is acting. What I mean is, if Disney is the villain and the wishes are other companies and studios, this is a great movie and I will definitely pay to watch it!
Even with this reading, Puss In Boots has a better metaphor (Jack Horner is Disney hoarding the magic and wishes for themselves).
Maybe this is how the movie should be read indeed(just like "Pokemon: Sun and Moon" apparently criticises a typical Pokemon player in Lusamine).
The song At All Cost stole the show for me.
It’s funny how they scrapped star boy but kept the obvious love song in the movie. The demo for At All Cost even has the words love you but they changed it to promise in the movie.
I have not seen this movie, but as a Spaniard, the queen's (I think she is???) outfit does look a lot like the way Dulcinea from Don Quijote is always portrayed wearing
Okay, so I totally agree with you about the concept; it's got real potential! I WISH (see what I did there?) the movie stuck with its original concept. Half the time I kept thinking that they WERE going to reveal the queen as a twist villain. Like she was in on it the whole time and just pretending to be nice. Or maybe he used his magic to put her under a spell. They DID make a big deal in the beginning about her being "loyal", after all. Speaking of the villain, I absolutely agree that if he was in a room with the other Disney villains they would wreck him. He is a loser, but I feel like he kind of had to be. IMO a villain is only as strong and compelling as the hero. You know, because the audience has to actually believe that the hero CAN defeat the villain they're facing up against. And, I'm sorry, but Asha is really bland. Like, in all honesty, could you see her facing up against any of the classic villains? They'd run circles around that poor girl. The way she defeated Magnifico in the movie was...meh.
SPOILERS!! DON'T READ AFTER THIS LINE IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE!
Fun after-credits idea: I would have loved it if the queen went to the dungeon to visit her husband, now trapped in the mirror, in order to gloat about her position. In an attempt to butter her up, he tells her how beautiful and wonderful she is, kind of how she did for HIM at the beginning of the film, in the hopes that she'll release him; hinting that THIS queen would eventually become the evil queen from snow white. I mean, since they're trying to give the magic mirror an origin they should go all the way, right?
Absolutely. But I also think it should have had more foreshadowing. Like why did he get trapped in the mirror shard. It could be something simple that since he was vain the consequence for failing was ti forever be alone never gazing on his beauty. Instead we just get the crap of 'once someone has used dark magic they are evil forever.' I just felt like, while cool, it didn't hold any weight. But this after credit scene would have definitely upped it's cool factor.
Also if they wanted to stick to the queen not being evil, we could show the future evil queen stumbling across his mirror, and have him manipulate her to let him out instead.
@@leafbranchthewarriorcat5869 For sure! They should have definitely focused more on the foreshadowing! My favorite types of villain defeats are the ones that use a certain character trait against them. Jafar, for example, is my favorite villain defeat. I love how Aladdin used Jafar's own ego to trap him within the lamp. And all because he NEEDED to be the most powerful person in the room. A character trait that's been his motivation from the very beginning.
Yeah its unfortunate because this is due to Bob Iger and the other executives being the reason why Disney is in the state that it is now, they completely abandoned Walt's ethos of making movies and the meaning behind them. I feel bad for the creative team who really want to bring back that magic but the brand is so far gone that its now a former shell of itself.
16:50 "If you put him in a room with all the other Disney villains they would all make fun of him and shove him into a locker and I would help" genuinely made me laugh out loud
The only song I cared for was "At All Costs". It hinted at a potential master/father figure vs apprentice/daughter figure. Experience, ration and caution vs Passion, idealism and being headstrong.
Magnifico had a point, and clearly was a good leader, based on how his kingdom operated without any hardship. The theme of wishes, trauma and authority figures could've allowed for a very nuanced story, between a protagonist and an antagonist that are both right and wrong. There could've still been a villain character that represents that negatives of both characters' ideals, via a wish, too.
Disney just can't not play it safe, when it comes to storytelling, to save their lives. Same with their visuals. Should've went 2D, like an Fantasia throwback. Should've brought in Eastern and European talent to give it flair. We get anime episodes more visually creative and spectacular than in most of Disney's output. Just check out stuff like Frieren and Mob Psycho Seasons 2 & 3. Look at something like Arcane.
The star not being a character is probably the biggest missed opportunity. There are so many ways you could take the personification of a wishing star. I think it could have been cool if you had the character talk about how many wishes don't even need magic, and people can often accomplish their wishes themselves, and that could have been a poignient thing about how wishes aspire us to do better. So later in the film we can still have the star get captured, but instead of the deus ex song ending you could have all the characters working together to get star out and thereby defeat the king, showing how wishes also demand work.
The idea of a wishing star becoming a person is so on brand for a fairytale it is insane to me they didnt do it. And it would make sense for the star to be a weird alien quirky type character which could have allowed Asha to be a little more low key and less awkward. So many ideas are so juicy here but it seems they chose everything on marketability rather than actually taking inspiration from the things that made Disney's earlier movies so great.
It's funny you mention it, because there are some official clips from when the movie was in early development showing the dynamic between the star kid and Asha.
It seems that originally Asha was going to be shy and more reserved as a character, which contrasted a lot with the extroverted, full of energy personality of the star kid. Their interactions were really cute imo
Yeah I started my own rewrite of Wish. I’m giving Queen Amaya a WHOLLLLEEE lot more character work and growth and having her play a bigger part. Also the grandpa has an actual personality now. And it’s down to three friends, not seven. The goat has been reworked to where it’s just not a goat anymore. The star is the Peter Pan like boy character from its concept art again. And Magnifico’s been edited to be a better and more cunning villain. The elements of a good story were there Disney, so much to work with, you were so close 😅😅😅
Where can i read this rewrite?
Can you imagine if the way to defeat the villain in this movie was to find meaning and purpose in your life even if your “wish” is never fulfilled, thereby taking the power away from the villain?
The reason the quirkiness worked for Anna, Rapunzel, and Mirabelle is because of the social isolation. Anna and Rapunzel were basically locked away from the world and Mirabelle was treated like the black sheep of the family. They have legitimate reasons to be a little quirky. Asha has literally no reason to be quirky.
When I was watching for the first time, I was expecting Magnifico to forcibly take AND CRUSH Asha’s wish during the final “battle”, despite her not being 18, just to show how evil Magnifico has become, but then that…doesn’t happen? for … some reason.
even if the lyric just went "to HAVE something MORE for US than THIS" it would make it 200% better than "TO have something MORE"
On that initial bit, Rosas is VERY Spanish. The name is, uh, well it means Roses in Spanish, Magnífico is Spanish, and while I'm not super well versed in medieval Spanish fashion the architecture is heavily reminiscent of the taifas and caliphates-periods architecture, lots of fountains and arches and columns and abstract mosaics and such.
I've heard people complain that Asha is, well, somewhat brown-coded (due to havig a dreads-ish do) and that that's either Disney trying to get woke points by putting a POC main character in what is otherwise a Spanish-inspired movie, or Disney being outright racist by going dreads>POC>latina>Spanish. What we say to these people is that like 70% of Spain's modern territory was under Islamic rule for five gods-damned centuries, and that the city is literally filled with Southern Spanish architecture, where they put most of the cool stuff like the Alhambra or the Cordoba Mosque. It absolutely makes sense for anArab-ish girl to run around chilling with a goat. Whether her chilling with a goat specifically goes into harmful stereotypes, that's besides the point and not for me to discuss (I have not watched the movie).
You still in doubt Asha is half spanish half moor for woke points? Lol
@@FabsHF i want you to read the full comment my guy
@@FabsHF how did you miss their point lol
Asha is actually supposed to be Afro Latina and the hairstyle she wears is lemonade braids not locs. Just some quick correcting!
Rosas is an actual town in Cataluña (Catalunya), Spain. I have been there. So maybe they got their inspiration from there.
it comes from "roses are a common flower seen in fairytales." as well as sleeping beauty (briar rose is her name, and the rose in her hand when she sleeps) and beauty and the beast having a rose theme
seriously thats it, cus it shows up in a few fairytales. no understanding as to why roses are in fairytales or integral to many, or anything. jusf surface level reasonings. like every other decision in this movie.
16:50 I WANT TO SEE THAT EXACT SAME SCENARIO! I'm just imagining they're all calling his 'villain song' trash, and then Frollo walks in and starts singing Hellfire.
You nailed why the vibes of this movie were so off to me. It felt like it desperately wanted to harken back to 20th century Disney, and yet it couldn't shake the more tongue-in-cheek snarky "we're self-aware and pointing out tropes" tone that more modern Disney movies have. Part of the reason the best hand-drawn Disney movies hit so hard is because they were 100% confident about being romantic fairy tale musicals with over-the-top villains, and yet more modern Disney films (including Wish) feel insecure about being in that genre.
modern Disney would never have the balls to come out with something like the Hunchback of Notre Dame
Shrek really destroyed their ego
Y'all we need an apology movie of all the concepts in one
Asha would be the daughter of the king and queen who are both evil (yes she was their daughter in a concept) and her parents are going to do something heinous with the power of the wishes.
She wants in but feels lonely so she wishes on a star to fill the empty hole in her, thus star boy shows up
They bond and through plot they fall in love, and star boy changes Asha and makes her see what she's doing is wrong
So they work together with some of her plot related somehow friends to stop her evil parents
“No one will make any money in the box office unless your name is Barbie” or Freddy Fazbear
I think they're trying to do Magnifico like they did Hades, the one who has some quirk lines but still evil, just without the good writing 😂😂
Maybe we could get a Wish rewriting from this 👀
The superior wish movie is Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish and no one can convince me otherwise. Also, the wishes actually had a weight in Puss in Boots 2. Unlike the characters' most important dreams being...to fly 🙄
Honestly the idea of giving my most anguish inducing wish to Magnifico and forgetting it unless it gets granted low key sounds like a win-win scenario for free rent.
16:28 - I hear a lot of people complaining about the book, and while I haven't watched the movie myself (I don't want to give them my money), it sounds like he uses the book and goes power hungry.
I think it would have been way more interesting if they built up the book as being the danger more than Magnifico, and he's a normal stressed out leader... until he feels becomes desperate and opens the book, and it POSSESSES HIM.
That's it, we gotta band together. Everyone, we gotta steal the starboy. He belongs to the internet now, I'm stealing him for my book.
STEALIN STARBOY MY BELOVEDDDD
I was so hesitant on seeing this movie. They’ve been trying so hard to push/promote this movie everywhere soooo I’m not surprised it’s fumbling.
Disney has been giving more misses than hits lately. A damn shame 🤷🏾♂️
Wish is just “too” classic with nothing interesting to add
I feel like it would've been cool if the Queen was like a god of wishes or had magic or something that let her do all the magical stuff, and her husband was manipulating her and using her for her magic. And the little star guy is also a humanoid god of wishes and is the Queen's son, and he helps Asha defeat the queen because the star is a rebel maybe? And it ends with them becoming the new king and queen.
I'd prefer them to both love each other, it would be so interesting to see these crazy evil folks actually making the best team and complementing each other, both really invested in that one goal. Like, I can imagine watching them and not being able to not love them despite them being evil. Sounds so fun to me.
12:23 while I do think making Star being a shapeshifter would've been cool, I've heard that concept art also says he was going to be Asha's romantic interest. If that'd been the case, it'd have ruined the film even more. As in, "Your wishes will only be granted by stars that are attracted to you."
Also, with how much people complain about there being too many references to past Disney films (which I mean, have you seen Mario or Space Jam 2?), I honestly think people would've complained just as much about a shapeshifting Star being a ripoff of Aladdin's Genie (which was actually one of the contributing factors in their decision).
I haven't found the concept art that directly mentions a romance. I think some of the art could be read as romantic, especially for those that are into a Peter Pan/Jack Frost type. But they could have just as easily remain friends in the movie & let people have fun with fanart
There is a quote from one of the writers I saw that says they were worried a talking shape-shifter would be too much like the genie, so they were real happy once they decided Star wouldn't talk cuz "Now Asha & Star have an emotional story. They're soulmates." which sounds weird cuz they seemed to have settled on a final design by then, but I can't imagine the Star toy we got in the movie to have an emotional connection with Asha. 😂
I also feel like people would complain that Asha makes a wish for "more than this" and she gets a love interest. But who knows? Maybe the movie would've had a different plot.
hinestly the love intereet thing is weird anyway cus the design everyine wants to use for the love interest is.... the design of her grandfather when he was younger. in the concepts these designs are meant to imply the imaginative and hopeful spirit of Sabo manifested as star , he dies in one concept of the story.
so like. kinda weird. not with it. wouldn't be surprised thays also why it was dropped. (but they kept and repurposed the song lol)
@@stephanos6128 Wait a minute, boy Star was a younger version of Asha's grandfather Sabo? And people want her to fall in love with it? 🤢 I am so glad they chose not to.
@@andrewdowns3673 the designs people use when rewriting star boy are the ones that are implied to be her grandfather's spirit yes, not all the designs are but most of the blonde human boy definitely are. you can simply redesign it to avoid that entirely but they won't cus hes a tumblr sexy man kind of design and these folks wont pass up that mediocre hotness.
all i have to do is see the poster for a movie called WISH with the tagline “be careful what you wish for” to know this is classless and uninspired
One spin off I’d love to see, of a very neglected character who is definitely NOT a quirky girl:
Elevator pitch: Megara prequel movie/series written by the same writers as Daria.
Megara herself would be one part Daria Morgendorffer, one part Cady Heron, and one part Veronica Sawyer.
Megara’s life couldn’t be more perfect: popular, top of her class, editor of her university’s chronicle, amazing boyfriend, and she is apprenticing under a great philosopher and is a budding philosopher herself. She chronicles the learnings and wisdom she learns throughout the series. The series finale would culminate with the tragic death of her boyfriend and her pact with Hades - and the boyfriend wouldn’t just run off with another girl, but steal her writings and become a famous philosopher himself using them.
The last scene of the series would literally be the camera zooming in on her face, her rolling her eyes and saying “crud”. Perfect segue to Hercules.
Disney is sleeping on Megara. She is what we desperately need: a witty, sarcastic, and somewhat jaded protagonist.
What I think is more unbelievable is that THIS came from the same studio that made Encanto. And I love Encanto! That movie was sooooo good. I still sing the songs. Disney, WTH
My main issue isn't that the music was written by a pop star. The male members of Abba wrote the music for the critically and commercially acclaimed musical Chess, Andrew Lloyd Webber got his start writing concept albums like Jesus Christ Superstar and Evita and both he and older writers like Cole Porter and Irving Berlin were writing their songs just as much for the radio as they were the stage. And Disney has made great films where the soundtracks were written by pop artists and the songs fit the story and are well written (Elton John and Phil Collins in particular). The issue here is that Disney didn't give Julia Michaels enough time to write the songs. For their previous musical Encanto, Lin Manuel Miranda was writing songs for it off and on over four years, reworking them and altering them as the story was changed and characters were added or removed. Here, Julia Michaels had barely a year to write these songs, structure them and get them recorded and mixed. Some songs she openly admitted that she was only given three weeks to write. That's why the songs don't work, they all feel like first drafts that didn't get enough editing so that they'd work.
Maybe somebody at Disney saw Nimona and was like "Oh no! Someone already did the shapeshifter thing! Rewrite! Rewrite!!! ...And draw something cute for merch."
The main thing I noticed from the concept art and the final product is that they were afraid of giving Asha a romantic interest and making the queen a genuine disney evil villain. The ideas for this movie was extremely compelling with a humanoid star as the co-lead and a villainous power couple. It seems to me as if they were afraid to stray from the 'adorkable' and 'women can do no wrong' trope.
So Asha could’ve been the princess of an evil king and queen power couple, who summons a mute shape-shifting boy from the stars? And the higher ups thought *that* wouldn’t sell more?? They dumbed this concept down so much it’s insulting. I love Asha’s design and it sucks that she got placed in this movie
We were robbed of a shape shifting star boy. We were robbed of the king and queen being a vilain power couple. We were robbed of Aisha and Starboy having a cute romance. We were robbed of a movie with two loving couples.
We. Were. Robbed.
I love romance. I want more good romance in good movies pleaaaase
0:50 - kind of same. i didnt even KNOW they were doing another movie until i saw the 10000 people saying "wow this new movie sucks"
Looking foward to your 2nd review of Wish once the hate train calms down cause I really want to know what you would have done with the star boy if he was allowed to be an actual character
"Her dad was a philosopher who told her to believe in the stars"
Girl thats MUFASA
The star is a creepy knock-off luma from Super Mario Galaxy. It's design juxtaposed with everyone else looks soulless and almost like a floating skull.
I would’ve loved a funny smart but naive star boy helping Asha
Goddamn, thanks for making this video. I watched ONE negative review of Wish, so UA-cam has been bombarding my feed with other negative reviews of the movie made by jerks, bigots and grifters.
Feels nice to see proper criticism without toxic rants about "woke disney in ruins" or "diversity bad" or whatever, jeez
Looking forward to your future video about Wish!
Hearing want to rewrite wish is honestly nice because I see people complaining about and I’m like okay so what you have done if you got the chance
When you look at it, Once Upon a Studio was the actual passion project, while Wish was the contractually obligated annual release and it shows.
You heard it here folks. You can't have seven friends, that's too much.
It looks like Wish was SUPPOSED to be amazing but corporate disney went full corproate and f'ed everything up
So long as Disney (and most of Hollywood in fact) are more concerned with quantity over quality to feed the content pipeline, we’ll keep getting movies like Wish
Movies like Encanto are increasingly becoming diamonds in the rough
Well also there’s no new inspiration anymore, everything is just referencing the past greatness, even guys stopped being attracted to women after seeing the most beautiful model ever… so the world is starving for new inspiration, not just referring to the past
Honestly I thought the movie was fine. I like it when I watched it in theaters. Honestly, I wish they did some of concept ideas. I really would have love to see the queen and king be the villians! Also the idea of Star becoming a human sounds really cool!
@@OpticalSorcererIt wouldn't have but it was such a missed opportunity!
The Star and Asha romance was such a missed opportunity! But seeing how rushed this movie felt to me (everything felt fast-paced and quickly escalating), I don't think it would've been done justice.
Plua seeing how they gave Magnifico a random 180 in the film, I doubt Amaya would've been done better.
If you like the wish concepts in this movie I recommend looking into Disneys Star Darlings like this idea is literally just Star Darlings
While I was just as eager to get another classic, 2-dinensional Disney villain as the next guy. I believe it hurt the movie over all.
I could see the skeleton of a better movie during Asha's & Magnifico's duel, "At All Cost", where we could of established that Magnifico dose care about protecting people's dream, but he believes preserving the Dreams are more important than helping the people who own the dream fulfil them, since once a dream is fulfilled it no longer exist, or even not live up to the dreamers expectations.
Asha, meanwhile, sees that dream has no purpose if it is not pursued and people should be allowed to go after their dreams, even if they fall short of it, or doesn't live up to their expectations.
You can see in "At All Cost" how Magnifico surrounds himself with the dreams, seeing them as a collective. While Ashe holds her grandfather's dream in her arms, treating it on a more personal level.
An authoritarian who says they will safe gaurd your wishes/dreams while actually utilizing such power for thier own personal gain is honestly an accurate way to describe what modern Disney feels like. So many inspiring stories, both original and reimaginings of cultural tales, shuved away in a copyright vault guarded by lawers for as long as they believe they can squeeze money out of it. This movie could have really been something
I feel like if this becomes a kingdom hearts level it'll be fun as hell because despite all of kingdom hearts fuckups, they do know how to make compelling characters and whimsy and that's what this movie is lacking
they should have went full traditional disney; broadway like songs, cute love story, despicable villain, and a protagonist that combines the personalities from the golden age, silver age, and the renaissance.
We were robbed. What would’ve worked more was if the king and queen were both evil and Asha was their daughter. Then Asha would’ve grown up thinking that keeping the wishes was the right thing and star boy had to help show her the right way. Also it would add a lot more to Asha’s character by standing against her parents since for all the other Disney princesses with evil parents they’re always stepparents (Lady Tremaine, Evil Queen, and Gothel). So the fact that a princesses actual parents are evil would’ve been so cool.
I get wanting villains like the Evil Queen back but Magnifico should've been the sympathetic villain that is way too overprotective and wants to protect everyone due to his own trauma
Also I wouldn't make Asha quirky I mean she can definitely have somethings but not as much as they did. I would make her more similar to Elsa and Mulan personality rather than Anna and Rapunzel.
I would also change Asha's color palette purple reminds me too much of Rapunzel and Isabella. I wish they stuck with the orange red color palette from the concept art
I actually liked the seven dwarves reference but instead make them people that Asha helps along the way
As someone who didn’t care for wish but adored once upon a studio. Hear me out, turning once upon a studio into a full movie. Like it could be animated but just a Disney animation studio and someone touches Walt’s desk and a sketchbook of characters come to life? That would have been an actually good movie idea-
i really feel like this movie could pass as one of those poorly animated random netflix movies (like that red shoe movie) that you find when looking for something to watch.
Can we talk about how In This Wish, the last time where Asha goes “So I make this wish, to have something mote for us than this” the last “this” just so clearly needs to be a drawn out note instead of whatever that was.