Move to Spain with the Irish passport route

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  • @celticlofts
    @celticlofts 20 днів тому +1

    My cousin's daughter works in the Irish passport office and she told me that they've hugely increased the number of staff to process applications. I live in Dublin and applied online to renew my passport. I filled out the form on a Wednesday evening and received it in the mail on the Friday morning. I was absolutely amazed at how fast they process it. Good luck on your application.

  • @mattjames88
    @mattjames88 Рік тому +10

    Just getting all my certificates together now to apply - exciting

    • @sonminorimitsuu2838
      @sonminorimitsuu2838 10 днів тому

      Well done...Proper happy for you.

    • @mattjames88
      @mattjames88 9 днів тому

      @@sonminorimitsuu2838 had it for a while now. Does make things a lot easier

  • @sonminorimitsuu2838
    @sonminorimitsuu2838 10 днів тому

    The FBR are very helpful, I got my good news last week and now am awaiting for my certificate with a view to get my Irish Passport...I am eternally grateful to my Granparents who were Irish immigrants that came to the UK for work with pennies in their pocket.

  • @jameslappin9017
    @jameslappin9017 Рік тому +11

    thank god im irish

  • @Driver2616
    @Driver2616 Рік тому +9

    Please don’t be under the misapprehension that just because you personally hold Irish citizenship that your English wife and children will also automatically hold that citizenship. They won’t. They will still be U.K. subjects, with all that entails for their immigration status in Spain.
    You will be able to travel freely into and out of the 27 countries that hold EU membership (there are some very minor variations in the immigration and entry laws from country to country in the EU but not enough to affect you as an Irish citizen) and live and work freely in those nations. But your family won’t have these same privileges.
    Unless of course they and you, apply for Family Reunification Status in whatever EU member nation you migrate to. Even then, that’s not certain to be granted to your family, depending on your family’s personal circumstances. And even if it is granted, it only applies in the country that it is granted in. There is no further privilege of Free Movement into other EU member nations automatically granted with Family Reunification Status. Your family members will still hold their U.K. passports with an a Immigration Stamp therein showing clearly that they hold Family Reunification Status for a defined period of time.
    The only country in the EU that your family has automatic Free Movement into, out of, around and can remain in freely is Ireland and that’s only because of the historic Common Travel Area protocols that were agreed between the U.K. and Ireland and first introduced and implemented in 1925.

    • @aok1550
      @aok1550 2 місяці тому

      If you have an Irish passport the rest of your UK born family (wife/husband and children) can settle with you in an EU country.

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 2 місяці тому

      @@aok1550: Yes but only after jumping through several administrative hoops that didn’t exist before Brexit. Even then, depending on individual circumstances, that’s actually not 100% certain.
      And a final provision that very few people are aware of is that even full EU citizens can be excluded from another EU nation if that other Nation feels that it is appropriate based upon local public policy.

    • @aok1550
      @aok1550 2 місяці тому

      @@Driver2616 I doubt your last paragraph.

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 2 місяці тому

      @@aok1550: I don’t care if you doubt it or not. I’ve seen it in action.

  • @thegreatvincenzo8159
    @thegreatvincenzo8159 Рік тому +3

    The freedom of movement afforded by the Irish passport applies only to the holder of that document, not to any family members. Also, Irish citizenship is not then available automatically to children so these need to be carefully considered before embarking along this route thinking it's all plain sailing.
    Healthcare is another big ticket item once you have made the move. NHS cover is no longer an option other than for visitors in an emergency (EHIC cards).

  • @conwaynoel3715
    @conwaynoel3715 Рік тому +2

    Good for you Nick, hope everything works out for you and the family best of luck.

  • @greattobeadub
    @greattobeadub Рік тому +32

    If your parent was born in Ireland, you do not need to go on the foreign birth register as you already are an Irish citizen. Just apply for a passport. Get the documents together. If you're relying on grandparents, then you need to use the register. On the negative side, perhaps we need to change our laws to block plastic paddies, who are simply finding out they are Irish all of a sudden, with no real loyalty to the state.

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 Рік тому +1

      Even northern Irish run out two years ago..

    • @stevenfennell7020
      @stevenfennell7020 Рік тому +5

      @@joprocter4573 Even Ian Paisley has an Irish passport now.

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 Рік тому +3

      @@stevenfennell7020 AS IS HIS RIGHT UNDER THE LAW

    • @matthewsemple
      @matthewsemple Рік тому

      How would the Department of Foreign Affairs distinguish between applicants who always knew they had an Irish grandparent and those that have just discovered they have Irish heritage?

    • @greattobeadub
      @greattobeadub Рік тому +11

      @@matthewsemple The ones that know and cherish their Irish heritage and value it should have registered their births by the age of 18. That would be one way of doing it. It really pisses me off that Irish citizenship is just seen by some people as a convenience and not an honour.

  • @martinplunkett6682
    @martinplunkett6682 Рік тому +1

    Welcome back..

  • @checker3694
    @checker3694 Рік тому +9

    If your a Grand child you have to apply for citizenship that's why it takes so long for Nick, if your parents are Irish and your born outside Ireland you are automatically a citizen and its 8 to 10 weeks at the moment for Irish passport. Though Spain has fabulous winter weather over UK gloomy winter, it is dead and soulless with little to do in winter, if working its like anywhere else ,Just my opinion thousands love the life, I too love Spain but don't fully cut your ties with UK if you have to sell up after 10 years you wont get much for your money if you have to come back to Uk Rent for a year no matter how hard it is dont sell your home till you know its for you if it is go for it David points out the picture in the background it's fabulous but missing the most important thing,people and thats Spain in winter.Thankfully Spring is nearly here in UK, Loved my time there in December, back there in two weeks again

    • @thomascollins4291
      @thomascollins4291 Рік тому

      If ever there was a soulless country it must be England will be in Spain soon for good

    • @helenaville5939
      @helenaville5939 Рік тому +2

      Excellent advice.

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 Рік тому

      Why would anybody ever want to return to the U.K.?

    • @checker3694
      @checker3694 Рік тому +1

      @Driver2616 A lot of people do, Health reasons, boredom, Spain can be pretty soulless, not everybody can sit around in the sun, you need a purpose in life and some drink them selves to death. Perfect balance if you can afford it, spilt your time between both countries,avoiding UK winter which now seems like 5 months. Never sell your property in UK if you can help it though.

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 Рік тому

      @@checker3694 : But since Brexit the U.K. is a “busted flush”. Quite frankly, the country has been flushed down the toilet by a bunch of far right self absorbed charlatans. Politically and economically Britain has no influence in the world. Socially it’s turned into an awful place to live. Jobs numbers and wages are down while prices are up. The value of pensions has dropped. Lots of boarded up shops in the High Streets all over Britain. Every other nation, particularly those that value their membership of the European Union, is booming. Nah, there’s no good reason to go back to Britain. Clean break. New start. That’s the way to move forward.

  • @bobyouel7674
    @bobyouel7674 Рік тому +3

    there are full lists for all u need so that u don't need to go the long way round as this guy seemed to do
    if u are a national [parent/parents are - were Irish] then its much easier

  • @aok1550
    @aok1550 2 місяці тому

    Our experience: firstly, we asked a head teacher to witness the various documents, which cost nothing; secondly, I obtained only the documents I needed (grandfather’s birth certificate, mother’s birth and marriage certificate and my birth and marriage certificate); thirdly, we handed in everything to the Spanish Consulate in Edinburgh, who checked everything and provided us with a receipt and fourthly, we paid an additional £18 (from memory) for a fast track passport, which you can do in Scotland by visiting a post office in Glasgow and received our passport within ten days. So, in my opinion no need to engage a professional. Hope this is helpful.

  •  Рік тому +20

    Congratulations on your promotion from being english to Irish.

  • @ronind6004
    @ronind6004 Рік тому +6

    I have both British and Irish citizenship. Recently i renewed my Irish passport and it took about 12 days from online completion to receiving my physical passport. I also ordered the EU card that is optional but *it* only lasts for 5 years not ten years like the passport . So, does this mean that i could come work and stay in Spain or anywhere else in Europe or is it only some places in Europe ?

    • @isoldedoyle3483
      @isoldedoyle3483 Рік тому

      Only countries which are members of EU - not every European country is but Spain is. It probably has residency requirements though such as obtaining a residence card and registering for taxes etc. I don’t know what you mean by EU card - are you talking about the health card?

    • @jjbiggmann5576
      @jjbiggmann5576 Рік тому +1

      YES, ALL OF THE EU...+ ICELAND NORWAY, AND SWITZERLAND.

  • @oonaghseaview7934
    @oonaghseaview7934 Рік тому +4

    Why would your wife be considered for long term stay she doesn't have irish Passport.

  • @celticlofts
    @celticlofts Рік тому +32

    The same people who, in the past, were happy to make racist comments about Ireland and the Irish are now scrambling to find an Irish granny so they can apply for an Irish Passport. I feel my country's passport is simply a passport of convenience for people who have no loyalty or roots in Ireland, or indeed who have never even lived there. In Italy you have to live in the country for a certain amount of time before you can qualify for a passport even if your parents or grandparents were born there. We need to tighten up the rules here in Ireland and I'm going to push our government to do just that.

    • @anacasanova7350
      @anacasanova7350 Рік тому +5

      Sucede lo mismo en España, nietos hispanoamericanos que no conocieron a su abuelo o padre español y que nunca lo quisieron , ni tuvieron relación con su familia española, ahora buscan para conseguir pasaporte Español y poder ir a USA o la UE.

    • @enricofromm4994
      @enricofromm4994 Рік тому +3

      Vi è un'altra grande implicazione. Essendo sostanzialmente inglesi con passaporto irlandese solo per vantaggi personali, quale affidabilità e lealtà ci si può aspettare da loro in Irlanda. Direi vicina allo zero. Quindi se costoro diventassero troppi, potrebbero essere una quinta colonna di inglesi con passaporto irlandese. Un po' come i troppi "turisti" russi residenti nei paesi confinanti la Russia. Un buon motivo per minacce di invasione con la scusa di difendere la minoranza di "turisti". E siccome anche degli inglesi non c'è da fidarsi troppo, io personalmente raccomanderei un po' di prudenza!
      There is another big implication. Being basically British with Irish passport for personal benefit only, what reliability and loyalty can be expected of them in Ireland. I would say close to zero. So if that becomes too many, it could be a fifth column of Brits with Irish passports. A bit like too many Russian "tourists" residing in countries bordering Russia. A good reason for threats of invasion under the guise of defending the minority of "tourists". And since even the English are not to be trusted too much, I personally would recommend a little caution!

    • @blueocean2510
      @blueocean2510 Рік тому +1

      The True Born Citizen Act changes everything, a person has to be born in EU with both parents born in EU to live and work.

    • @celticlofts
      @celticlofts Рік тому +1

      @@blueocean2510 : Not both parents, one will do. If you're a foreign born citizen of that country your children are entitled to citizenship too.

    • @celticlofts
      @celticlofts Рік тому +4

      @@enricofromm4994 : There's a world of difference between the situation in countries bordering Russia and the Irish/British thing. Most Brits who come to live in Ireland become more Irish than the Irish themselves. I have no concerns about British people living in Ireland, my problem is Irish passports being dished out to people who don't deserve them while people who work their asses off In Ireland but who are foreign born are treated like shit by the Irish government.

  • @khiggins8733
    @khiggins8733 Рік тому +7

    As an Irish nationalist I have to laugh when I see Ulster Loyalists and other Brits getting Irish passports in order to reside in the EU.
    As Irish we were traditionally scorned and treated with contempt by the British.
    What a reversal in fortune for the Brits.
    Many of these applicants have no interest or affinity with Ireland only using us to get to live in Spain & Portugal
    On another matter any Irish who were born in the 26 counties prior to 1949 while Ireland was in the Commonwealth are
    eligible for a British passport . However this British passport only gives the holder the status of ‘ British Subject’ not ‘ British Citizen ‘
    A British Subject does not have an automatic right to reside in the U.K. and this permission has to be granted the holder.

    • @Oluinneachain
      @Oluinneachain Рік тому +1

      Indeed but the CTA nullified your final point for those born in Ireland.

    • @khiggins8733
      @khiggins8733 Рік тому

      @@Oluinneachain You are incorrect. Those of Irish birth who hold British Subject passports ( not British Citizen passports) have to be given a stamp stating that the holder has the right of abode in the U.K. Both British and Irish citizens are indeed entitled to enter and live in both countries under the Common Travel Area HOWEVER if you are presenting yourself as a BRITISH SUBJECT at an Immigration Point then you are NOT presenting yourself as either a British Citizen or an Irish Citizen. It is rare that an immigration officer will come across a British Subject passport and in many cases many not notice it is such as it looks exactly the same as a British passport except it will state British Subject instead of British Citizen on the bio data page. It will also have a stamp on one of the internal pages giving the right of abode.

    • @Oluinneachain
      @Oluinneachain Рік тому

      @@khiggins8733 I’m intrigued. To be clear, would these Irish born British Subjects be confined to those born in the FreeState- 1921/48?

    • @khiggins8733
      @khiggins8733 Рік тому

      @@Oluinneachain Others who are eligible to attain British Subject status include those of British extraction born in India but I cannot define exactly when they would have to be born in India and in what circumstances.

  • @aok1550
    @aok1550 2 місяці тому

    Any one born in Ireland before 1922 (before independence from the UK) is considered to be a citizen of Eire.

  • @Reggae_49
    @Reggae_49 Місяць тому

    im irish was bron in sligo ireland came to uk back in 1977
    lived he ever since i dont have a passport both parents are both form ireland.
    but have sadly pass away. i recived my BRP permit last year ( ILR )
    What do i need to do in order to get irish passport?

  • @stevemingay7124
    @stevemingay7124 Рік тому +6

    My wife is currently applying for her irish nationality i am British. My question is are there any financial requirements needed to move to spain

    • @LeoSavantt
      @LeoSavantt Рік тому +1

      Yes, because Ireland isn't in Schengen and Irish citizen moving to Spain should be able to support themselves, either with money in the bank, pension or investments etc. or a job in Spain. But no one will check, after six month continuous residency in Spain an Irish citizen should register and pay tax either in Spain, Ireland or another country with a reciprocal tax arrangement with Spain. Hope that helps.

    • @helenaville5939
      @helenaville5939 Рік тому +1

      @@LeoSavantt It has nothing whatsoever to do with being in Schengen or not. Irish passport holders are free to live, work or travel within all other EU member states for as long as they like with no restrictions. It really is as simple as that.

    • @LeoSavantt
      @LeoSavantt Рік тому +3

      @@helenaville5939 I'm afraid that you have been misinformed. Perhaps you will recall that France deported Romanian citizens, because they could not support themselves (it was a bit racist, because the deported were all Roma). Irish citizens are free to travel and work in any EU state, but because Ireland is not in Schengen they are technically required to be able to support themselves, whereas French citizens, for instance, do not have the requirement that they can support themselves when moving to another Schengen country. As I said this is a technical rather than practical issue. I do know about this technicality, I am a retired Irish civil servant who was seconded to the European Commission in Brussels for 10 years, working on just these issues.

    • @helenaville5939
      @helenaville5939 Рік тому +2

      @@LeoSavantt I worked in Paris for nine years and was active in the Irish community there, and never once encountered this or anything even resembling it. It was certainly never experienced by any Irish people arriving and settling in the country and there were many. It is completely misleading to be disseminating such data that has no application on the ground. If, as you claim, it is a mere technicality then why even mention it and confuse people? Very disappointing to learn you are Irish and doing this.

    • @LeoSavantt
      @LeoSavantt Рік тому +2

      @@helenaville5939 As I pointed out the French government deported Romanian citizens, they could do this because Romania is not, like Ireland, in Schengen. There is a real issue here. An Irish, Romanian, Cypriot or Bulgarian citizen without the means to support themselves has no automatic right to settle in another EU country. The person asked this question "My question is are there any financial requirements needed to move to spain", and yes there are, so I answered their question honestly and accurately. I was attempting to genuinely answer the question so as to help them. I find it odd that you are criticizing me for providing accurate information. Are you suggesting that I should have been deliberately misleading and or that I should have deliberately lied?

  • @evelynkelly4790
    @evelynkelly4790 Рік тому +4

    Complete nonsense……..and how disrespectful to Irish People………..even if you get an Irish passport you will have to apply for residency in Spain……. And it is not a given…..Under international Tax law you can only stay in a country that is not your domicile country for 180 day a year or you are subject to double taxation taxation…….Nick have you ever been to Ireland …….. as someone says Irish law needs to change to stop this disrespect

  • @lesleyrobertson5465
    @lesleyrobertson5465 Рік тому +3

    Did he vote for Brexit

  • @dogstar5572
    @dogstar5572 Рік тому +1

    I just got my Irish passport. More freedom. No long queues at the airport anymore. BTW death certificates don’t work. I sent my fathers death certificate, I needed to send his birth certificate. I missed being born in Ireland by 1 week. Shame.

    • @LoricFox
      @LoricFox 6 місяців тому +2

      So you were conceived in Ireland (nourishrd * grown there* that 18:56 18:28 should count 🤔 for Irish Roots7:39 Roots😢

  • @davidmccabe4041
    @davidmccabe4041 Рік тому

    Welcome to being an Irish citizen, does your wife/partner if English get an irish passport as well? David McCabe dublin

  • @wookieeMan06
    @wookieeMan06 Рік тому

    I got the Irish passport through decent, and never had to register on the foreign birth register.

  • @vincentwhelan475
    @vincentwhelan475 Рік тому +1

    Does Mr Mcnamee have any affection for Ireland?

  • @tomcafolla
    @tomcafolla Рік тому +2

    My great. great grranndmothers best friend drank Guinness, does that make me eligible for an Irish passport?

    • @Oluinneachain
      @Oluinneachain Рік тому

      Ah the Cafollas from Frosinone! 😂

    • @georgedeathe4683
      @georgedeathe4683 10 місяців тому

      I know someone who watched the 'The Quiet Man'

    • @LoricFox
      @LoricFox 6 місяців тому

      It definstely should😜

  • @paulosullivan3991
    @paulosullivan3991 Рік тому

    I need a good solicitor to do mine , really haven’t got the brain to fill in these forms ,
    Always seem to do something wrong
    Solicitor in London
    So easy contact

  • @lesleyrobertson5465
    @lesleyrobertson5465 Рік тому +2

    I didn’t vote for Brexit does that make me eligible and I’m scottish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @shamrock245
    @shamrock245 Рік тому

    How do you get to stay longer than 3 months?

    • @georgedeathe4683
      @georgedeathe4683 10 місяців тому

      After 90 days apply for residency or leave before 90 days and return. Go over the border for a day or two.

  • @sandracubillos5155
    @sandracubillos5155 5 місяців тому

    What about N Irish?

    • @stuartmcconnachie
      @stuartmcconnachie Місяць тому

      The Republic of Ireland regard anyone born on the island of Ireland (i.e. including NI) as being Irish. So yes, if you or a parent were born in NI, you can apply for an Irish passport. Alternatively if you have a grandparent born in NI you must first apply to be put on the FBR, then, if accepted, you can apply for your passport.

  • @blueocean2510
    @blueocean2510 Рік тому

    In the New EU, bio data of person and both parents, born in EU also both parents. Passport control will be automated.
    This will end immigration, had the people from former EU state been made aware, Brexit may not have taken place. Thank you for supporting the New EU.

    • @helenaville5939
      @helenaville5939 Рік тому +1

      English translation please.

    • @blueocean2510
      @blueocean2510 Рік тому

      ​@@helenaville5939 There is no English translation as only the first Official language of the EU is used.

    • @helenaville5939
      @helenaville5939 Рік тому

      @@blueocean2510 You needed to write it in improved English so that it can be understood. As it stands it is impossible to understand what it is you were trying to say. "English translation" often means please write it in better English.

  • @dogstar5572
    @dogstar5572 Рік тому

    €500? Mine was €90.

  • @NeurodivergentGuy2023
    @NeurodivergentGuy2023 5 місяців тому

    Ridiculous that people are able to obtain Irish citizenship so easily, especially when it comes to grandparents, most countries cut off entitlement once the first generation is born externally.

  • @CollieJenn
    @CollieJenn Рік тому +3

    Irish passports thrown away like confetti.

  • @mrjohncharlesbrown
    @mrjohncharlesbrown Рік тому

    What about great grandparents

    • @stuartmcconnachie
      @stuartmcconnachie Місяць тому

      Probably out of luck unless your parent registered themselves on the Irish Foreign Birth Register (and hence became an Irish citizen) *before* you were born.

  • @Richard1A2B
    @Richard1A2B Рік тому +4

    To get an Irish passport they should have to do a test in Irish... that should weed out the brexiters 😂

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 Рік тому +2

      That's weeding out 99% of Irish

    • @Richard1A2B
      @Richard1A2B Рік тому

      @joprocter4573 haha I didn't say how difficult the test had to be

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 Рік тому +1

      @@Richard1A2B can send all Irish in UK and commonwealth home if its that funny

    • @Richard1A2B
      @Richard1A2B Рік тому

      @joprocter4573 firstly there's the UK/Ireland common travel area, so you can't.
      Secondly, the commonwealth is not yours to make such a decision, it's not part of your empire any more those days have long gone.

    • @joprocter4573
      @joprocter4573 Рік тому

      @@Richard1A2B grow up there is no empire stop being such an indoctrinated patronising person.

  • @alanwellsphotography
    @alanwellsphotography Рік тому +3

    With a name like McNamee how could you not be Irish 😂 welcome to the Irish passport club Nick

  • @shaungilmartin1505
    @shaungilmartin1505 Рік тому

    what happens if you have an English wife?

    • @Oluinneachain
      @Oluinneachain Рік тому +2

      My wife was born in England but identifies as Irish. Either way , the best strategy is to just do what she says.🙄

  • @shaungillingham4689
    @shaungillingham4689 Рік тому +4

    I'm both UK & a Republic of Ireland citizen, but guess what? I don't want to live in Spain, I want to live in the uk or Ireland.

    • @jjbiggmann5576
      @jjbiggmann5576 Рік тому +3

      AGREED....WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS BORING MOVE TO SPAIN...BEING A "DREAM, FOR SOME....THEY SHOULD SPEND A MONTH THERE...AND SEE HOW BORING IT IS.

  • @bobyouel7674
    @bobyouel7674 Рік тому

    foreign birth register is only for non nationals [this guy is not a national] as has already been said. great passport to have

  • @shawnmillar2998
    @shawnmillar2998 Рік тому +9

    This is completely misleading. Just because you have an Irish Passport does not entitle your wife or children to any right to move to any European country. You really need to take this down!

    • @blueocean2510
      @blueocean2510 Рік тому

      Correct, in the New EU, bio data of person and both parents are on passport identify documents, all being born in EU have a right to live and work. Thank you for supporting the New EU.

    • @helenaville5939
      @helenaville5939 Рік тому +3

      @@blueocean2510 Poor effort at trolling.

  • @12bigredd
    @12bigredd Рік тому +1

    the genius of the BREXITEERs lol you guys realise thats why your in this boat? your own fellow country men and woman did this to you... btw back us here in N.ireland when it comes to the Good Friday Agreement. we did not vote for Brexit and want to have european friends and be able to visit as and when we like

  • @bepto4877
    @bepto4877 Рік тому +2

    I was led to believe that an Irish passport only allowed for 90 day stays in Spain within 180 days.

    • @thegreatvincenzo8159
      @thegreatvincenzo8159 Рік тому +4

      No.
      An Irish passport allows full freedom of movement.

    • @Oluinneachain
      @Oluinneachain Рік тому

      That would be a Northern Irish passport. Ask joproctor.😂