Elmax Gunny Hunter water stone sharpening

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • Current Bark River knives don't have fat geometry but only a blended micro bevel. So applying water stones in a regular way always gives them the keenest edge.

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  • @71wicker
    @71wicker 7 років тому

    Thanks DR. I can still see you fighting off your Old habits of chasing the curve!! Good work, be safe

  • @calebgreen4150
    @calebgreen4150 7 років тому +13

    Very enjoyable experience watching you sharpen. I've been watching your videos for quite a while now but never get tired of your content! I love when you go fishing and catch trout. Have you done a video on your fishing gear? If not I would love to know what you use.. So I can prepare for spring and summer!

  • @grindstone4910
    @grindstone4910 7 років тому +1

    That finish is so smooth I can see me sitting in front of my computer in the reflection

  • @GunRagDave
    @GunRagDave 7 років тому +1

    Your technique has come a long way. Thanks for the explanation. I'll try your method later tonight.

    • @GunRagDave
      @GunRagDave 7 років тому +5

      I tried your method on my Benchmade 556 and a couple other Klein utility knives using 1200 and then 5000 grit waterstones. My imitation of your technique needs a lot of refinement but your process makes absolute sense. Everything I sharpened with this method became as sharp or sharper then the original factory edge. Thank you so much for the explanation of your process.

  • @krustysurfer
    @krustysurfer 2 роки тому

    Elmax for the win!
    Such a great video to learn from a master, thank you

  • @jasonerickson3536
    @jasonerickson3536 7 років тому +1

    Thanks so much for your sharpening videos you have taught me so much and inspired me to sharpen as good as you do keep the vids coming love them and happy hunting.

  • @LegionTacticoolCutlery
    @LegionTacticoolCutlery 5 років тому +1

    The Art of Sharpenig! Just amazing.

  • @GoldBold563
    @GoldBold563 7 років тому

    Lovely! this is my new favorite sharpening video, you seemed to be having quite a lot of fun.

  • @slooshark1
    @slooshark1 4 роки тому

    I love your videos. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mouldybread7773
    @mouldybread7773 7 років тому +16

    Every stag watching this video is scared as fuck!

    • @bryanessig8814
      @bryanessig8814 7 років тому +3

      That would have rimed if you would have replaced "Stag" for 'Buck'...

    • @TylerLL2112
      @TylerLL2112 7 років тому +1

      Bryan Essig rhymed? Rimmed is a whole different meaning :D Sorry if I come across rude for correcting you. Just figured I'd let you know incase English isn't your native language. Take care!

    • @bryanessig8814
      @bryanessig8814 7 років тому +1

      Yes please don't do that again. I hate you now! "In case" is two words if you forgot. You also have two incomplete sentences in that post. Guuuude!

    • @krustysurfer
      @krustysurfer 2 роки тому

      Scared as buck!

  • @jbbolts
    @jbbolts 7 років тому +2

    What set of stones would you get if you could only have 1 set? ...also which 2 or 4 sided strop would be best? ... GREAT vids.... thanks so much

  • @BillEbert
    @BillEbert 7 років тому +26

    HELLO KNIFE PEOPLE !

    • @limbus_patrum
      @limbus_patrum 7 років тому +7

      HELLO, KNIFE PEOPLE !
      HELLO KNIFE, PEOPLE !
      HELLO, KNIFE, PEOPLE !

    • @jbbolts
      @jbbolts 7 років тому +4

      mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

  • @DutchBushcraftKnives
    @DutchBushcraftKnives 7 років тому +8

    Hey Wako,
    I know we are both very satisfied with bark river black and white compound but have you considered the Bark river Emulsions? A friend send me something similar (1 micron) it looks promising. I want to try a set from 6 micron to 0.2 micron to see it's mirror finish.

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +10

      Hello,
      I have never thought of a finer compound than the BR white one which seems enough for me. My interest is the smallest or the most appropriate apex angle for each steel. I know 3V takes a very small angle still don't know what angle Elmax takes yet. I hope this sharp Elmax won't take chipping. It now has as small an angle as my 3V Fox River. Thanks.

    • @seanoindaugherty308
      @seanoindaugherty308 6 років тому

      virtuovice the emulsions are more abrasive than the stropping compounds. They're meant to be used not unlike the stones you use for reprofiling and sharpening.

    • @BOOSTEDLASER
      @BOOSTEDLASER 5 років тому

      @@virtuovice Senpai :Sometimes you take microchips on Elmax....could the reason be you sharpen at a small angle?

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  5 років тому +1

      @@BOOSTEDLASER I don't think so. Elmax stays sharp very long. But I suppose its steel property has micro brittleness inevitably regardless of the angle. Thanks.

  • @trevordesroow2517
    @trevordesroow2517 7 років тому +1

    Hey Wako. Very nice vid. What is that thing U use to remove metal residue from the surface of the stone? Thanks.

  • @johnq4396
    @johnq4396 7 років тому

    I have watched so many of your videos with this view. Take us on a tour of your sharpening area. Zoom out some. Let's see that damn sink area

  • @ChristianSkagen
    @ChristianSkagen 7 років тому

    Amazing papercut!

  • @3YT.638
    @3YT.638 6 років тому

    Great videos, i just received my set . But all 3 colors of the stones seem not as bright as yours. I can't wait to try them out.

  • @simonbarrett2701
    @simonbarrett2701 7 років тому

    you do really good work

  • @tikkidaddy
    @tikkidaddy 6 років тому

    Greetings my friend excellent as usual.

  • @jakewolf079
    @jakewolf079 7 років тому +1

    はじめまして、台湾人です。
    I love your sharpening technique, skill and knowledge. Excellent work, the result is top tier.
    However, I still can't get over those scratching marks on the blade. Maybe I am just too much of a perfectionist when it comes to look. Whenever I scratched my knife while sharpening it, It always makes me feel really annoyed and sad. (心が痛い!!).
    Your technique is great, but it is almost impossible to not scratch the blade that way.
    I feel like there must be a good way to prevent scratching without changing your sharpening technique at all.
    Putting duck tape on it would be an easy solution, but I don't really like putting duck tape on knives...
    Maybe note papers? I don't know, but it is worth trying.

    • @arshanmostafavi9621
      @arshanmostafavi9621 7 років тому

      Beast of the Far East Try using some blue painters tape . Duct tape doesn't work as well as blue painters tape because it's a lot thicker. Blue painters tape has enough adhesive to bond well with the steel on the knife and also thin enough that it doesn't become a burden while sharpening.

    • @Wolf_K
      @Wolf_K 6 років тому

      You can remove all traces of scratches with uchigimori or sandpaper after you have finished sharpening. Wet & Dry Sandpaper of #1200+ works well, then finish it off with a metal polish and you will have a perfect flawless mirror.

  • @venkateshsubrahmanyam4532
    @venkateshsubrahmanyam4532 7 років тому

    Pls can u do a video which kind of sharpening method such as water stone diamond stone, leather strop, oil stone is suited for which kind of edge or grind. Thanks

  • @burrsniffen9688
    @burrsniffen9688 7 років тому

    Hi. In your video Explanation of my honing method, you turned the handle throughout the belly portion to make perpendicular all parts of the belly. In this video you have changed to lifting the handle up, and not turning it. Would you please explain why the change? Thank you.

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +2

      Hi,
      I noticed the way I sharpened the belly portion perpendicularly to it tends to straighten it. So I changed the way not to round the blade but to raise the handle. Then I found the important belly line is kept. Thanks.

  • @MrBoomie00
    @MrBoomie00 7 років тому +1

    Hi, love your channel. I've been trying your techniques and getting better. wanted to ask you what you thought about putting a scandivex grind using wet stones on the Survive Knives sabre grind GSO 4.1. The Bark Rivers seem to lend themselves more effectively to removing the micro bevel to scandivex. Do yu have any experience with reprofiling any of the Survive Knives line? I have a GSO 4.1 and a new GSO 10 ordered and waiting for it to be sent out. I love the grinds you create and want to put them on the Survive Knives. Thanks for your vids and any thoughts you might share.

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +4

      I think it's a very good idea. I ever did almost the same thing to my Ambush knives though their grinds were a little higher than yours. The Survive Knives is known to be made out of 3V and you will need a very coarse stone like Shapton Pro #120. Thanks.

  • @martinberntsson6406
    @martinberntsson6406 7 років тому +1

    Hello Wako! I been wanting to ask you about your modified Bravo 1.25 you made a video about some time ago. Did you make that drop point yourself an if so, how?

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +6

      I did it myself by using a belt sander. The belt sander generates much heat and unless we cool the blade with water after every pass, the tip or a thin portion gets burning red and loose the heat treat. Thanks.

  • @fletchschubert5044
    @fletchschubert5044 7 років тому

    Hey @virtuovice I am "knife people" I have a question about knife steels with all other variables being equal. So cpm4v vs Elmax vs Cpm20cv edge retention. Which is best in your opinion? Thanks @virtuvice

  • @jl9752
    @jl9752 6 років тому

    Hi Wako-San, for the more wear resistant steels, have you considered the Naniwa Diamond Stones? Wanted to ask whether you have any experience or opinion about them as there isn’t much documentation on them in the US. Thank you!

  • @NatureIntoAction
    @NatureIntoAction 7 років тому

    nice demo

  • @2manysigns
    @2manysigns 6 років тому

    Cool . Thanks .

  • @MickyMouseLimited
    @MickyMouseLimited 6 років тому

    Hi i would like to ask you a question. I see that you make most of your knifes with no secondary bevel. How do you prevent chipping and edge rolling? I did 3 knifes like that one was a kitchen and one was a small fixed blade and a Sog Seal Pup all of them all had chips on the edge in no time.
    Thank you
    Alex

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  6 років тому

      Zero secondary bevel in a small angle like 30 degrees inclusive needs quality steels like 3V in order not to take rolls or chips. SOG is AUS8 and doesn't hold it. Thanks.

  • @vangelisg927
    @vangelisg927 5 років тому

    Good morning from Greece. I'd like to ask you what is your opinion about electric work sharper machines! such as Work Sharp Multi-Sharpener Ken Onion Edition, for example. Do you think that do the same job as waterstones? thank you.

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  5 років тому +2

      Hand sharpening goes as intended once you get the basic knowledge and skill. It's free and art. I sharpen once a week at least to enjoy it. Using the hand sharpened edge in the field inspires me to the next sharpening.

  • @TheDrTHC
    @TheDrTHC 5 років тому

    Konnichiwa Wako! I’m wondering where i can found natural nagura stone just for clean the whetstone, here in Kansai area ? Arigatou gozaimas

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  5 років тому +1

      search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E5%A4%A9%E4%B8%8A/?sid=263509

  • @akylbisenbaev181
    @akylbisenbaev181 7 років тому

    Hello, I am newbie at knife sharpening. What is it you rubbing on stone? you said it helps to reduce metal from stone

    • @wilsonline90
      @wilsonline90 7 років тому +1

      I think it was a nagura stone.

  • @luismiguelfialhodesousa5112
    @luismiguelfialhodesousa5112 7 років тому

    Hi tank's for your videos.
    what you think about 3g steel in comparison to elmax?
    tank's

  • @n9oqu
    @n9oqu 5 років тому

    would a chosera 800 grit stone work well on elmax?

  • @johnq4396
    @johnq4396 7 років тому

    How do you clean the metal from your stones after sharpening? Do you use the nagura or a 3m pad?

  • @jstank151
    @jstank151 7 років тому

    I'm having troubles sharpening my gunny hunter elmax, could you please tell me what stones I should use? I have a strop with green and black compound from BRKT and 2&4 micron emulsions for my other strop. I have been trying for months and no progress and I think I'm only making it worse haha
    Also any other videos of yours you might recommend would be much appreciated too!!

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +4

      Shapton Ha-no-kuromaku 1000, 2000, 5000 stones are recommended. I don't change the blade direction when sharpening the belly to keep its line. If we change the blade direction perpendicular to the belly line, it must shallow the important belly line.
      ua-cam.com/video/BIa30Fd2kug/v-deo.html

  • @matthewdroz5613
    @matthewdroz5613 7 років тому

    love the video wako

  • @venkateshsubrahmanyam4532
    @venkateshsubrahmanyam4532 7 років тому

    I would like to know if tadiea water stone is good company?

  • @AmesticaMario
    @AmesticaMario 7 років тому +1

    Why do you prefer ELMAX steel and not S35VN ?
    Best..

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +8

      It's because Bark River replaced S35VN to Elmax. I am sure Elmax holds much longer but suspect it can be more prone to micro chipping. If this sharpened edge doesn't take micro chipping after a total deer dressing, I will discard the suspicion. Thanks.

    • @trikpa3687
      @trikpa3687 7 років тому

      Thank's for your feedback between these 2 steels after use - and great Thank's for your vidéos. Patrick /France

  • @bryanessig8814
    @bryanessig8814 7 років тому

    I cannot get the Shapton stones with the wooden base in the USA. Do you know if the Shapton stones you use are equivalent to the Shapton Pro Stones we get in the USA?

    • @dr.figvideos3303
      @dr.figvideos3303 7 років тому

      Bryan Essig You can get them on Amazon

    • @bryanessig8814
      @bryanessig8814 7 років тому +1

      Amazon only has Shapton pro and Shapton glass. Wako-san uses the Shapton stones with the wooden base. Are they the same as the Sahpton pro? I mainly have Chosera.

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +3

      Shapton Pro series is known to be the same as Ha-no-kuromaku series. The Pro or Ha-no-kuromaku 1.000 grit stone is the best sharpening stone when the edge has micro chips or micro bevels. Its real grit seems like 600 or so.

    • @wilsonline90
      @wilsonline90 7 років тому +1

      And Ha-no-Kuromaku are way cheapper in the US.

  • @CSX4545
    @CSX4545 7 років тому

    Hi Doc -great video !
    Have you sharpened the Falkkniven ?

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +2

      Yes. Fallkniven is difficult to sharpen because of their thick geometry just above the edge. Thanks.

  • @sKeM2k9
    @sKeM2k9 5 років тому

    Hello, do you have any tips or advice on how to sharpen karambit knives? I'd greatly appreciate your input as I know you're very knowledgeable in sharpening knives. Please let me know if you have any tips or techniques, thanks in advance! Be well!

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  5 років тому

      I have little idea how to sharpen the negative curve of the karambit edge. I think only rod sharpening system can do.

    • @sKeM2k9
      @sKeM2k9 5 років тому

      @@virtuovice Okay cool thank you for your quick reply! Do you know of any good ceramic sharpening rods?

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  5 років тому +1

      @@sKeM2k9 No, I don't.

    • @sKeM2k9
      @sKeM2k9 5 років тому

      @@virtuovice Okay cool, thanks anyways! Another quick question... what do you think about the Shapton glass stone series? Do you think it's worth the money or do you think your Shapton are stones are good enough? Also if you use the white bark river compound do you need the enkay green? Should I buy both?

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  5 років тому +1

      @@sKeM2k9 I have never experienced the Shapton glass stone. Shapton 1000 and 2000 and Chosera 3000 are good enough to sharpen to finish. What we need for stropping is only the BR white compound. Thanks.

  • @BOOSTEDLASER
    @BOOSTEDLASER 5 років тому

    Lionsteel M390 (M4) is better steel
    Wonder why BRK doesnt use M390

    • @justinpatrickhoffman
      @justinpatrickhoffman 5 років тому +1

      BOOSTEDLASER BRK does not use M390 because it chips more easily than their other steels

  • @samcustom5857
    @samcustom5857 6 років тому

    Hello , what is the white product that you rub on the stones and whère can you get it ? 😉

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  6 років тому

      It is Nagura stone. 天上特級、名倉 is the one to go to. They sell overseas by PayPal. Please contact them.
      www2.odn.ne.jp/mandaraya/5-tennen-nagura.htm

    • @samcustom5857
      @samcustom5857 6 років тому

      @@virtuovice OK . Thank you .👍

  • @1crimm
    @1crimm 7 років тому

    good video as always Doc.. on a side not it was nice to see PM Shinzō Abe with President Trump together over the weekend.. USA and Japan will always be good allies.

  • @MRB-nt7vg
    @MRB-nt7vg 7 років тому

    How many knifes do you own?

  • @TheDrTHC
    @TheDrTHC 5 років тому

    Domo arigatou Wako San ;)

  • @boldsaikhanbundan5571
    @boldsaikhanbundan5571 7 років тому

    what is that white wax you used on the waterstone 3000?

    • @Octagonalish
      @Octagonalish 7 років тому +2

      that is a nagura stone, it's a smaller stone that helps to create a slurry on the main waterstone

    • @andylundberg2932
      @andylundberg2932 7 років тому

      Any idea on the type? The ones I have seen are very small by comparison.

    • @dr.figvideos3303
      @dr.figvideos3303 7 років тому +1

      Andy Lundberg He has a videos where he details which nagura stones he uses and how/where to buy them. Search his content and it will appear.

    • @andylundberg2932
      @andylundberg2932 7 років тому

      Thanks!

    • @virtuovice
      @virtuovice  7 років тому +3

      www2.odn.ne.jp/mandaraya/5-tennen-nagura.htm
      Their stocking 天上別上、名倉、TB-4 is recommended. They take English email and PayPal, ships overseas by air. Thanks.

  • @OpaKnows
    @OpaKnows 7 років тому

    Wako-san, I have been watching your videos for many years now, and I believe that you are a master sharpener. I must say, though, with respect, that your shooting skills are below average. Maybe spend more time at the rifle range perfecting your aim. See you next time.