Its like YUGIOH. Almost every card nowadays seems to fish something else out of your deck or graveyard or whatever so you're always card neutral if not plus.
@@MrShukaku1991draw is still very strong in yugioh, while searching can be really good, I think it’s used just as often as a design tool for limiting what you can get and limiting deck building. It can be easy to hand out searches when the cards your searching aren’t very strong, or lock you into playing a specific kind of deck… unless you snake eyes, but that deck just shouldn’t exist in general
Nope, value generation still depends on having the card in your hand. No point in having a deck with insane value if you don’t have It on curve or the right time
@@MrShukaku1991not exactly like yugioh, hs generally fish for things in a large pool through generation or draw. Yugioh generally works in lines of play which one card finds a specific one for whatever combo you're doing. Id say yugioh is more specific since draw in yugioh is very premium. But yeah card economy has been sped up in hs like crazy. One of the reasons mana cheating is so amazing, since puking your hand out generally wont leave you without one.
Town Crier draws safety expert, chemical spill summons it, the weapon that triggers deathrattles curves into it, dr boom resummons it. exactly what mech warrior needed
Feels like everyone is sleeping on the Gibbering Reject. The kind of deck that would run it would almost certainly have a board presence and most likely a weapon equipped before turn 4, which means this wouldn't go onto the board cold or undefended. Your opponent then has to clear both of them that turn or you're going to see at least one more 3/3. Then it's got a double utility of swarm potential or continued replenishing board control. At worst it's a 5 mana 6/6, it will normally at be a 4 mana 6/6, but regularly a 4 mana 9/9, occasionally a 4 mana 12/12 or more. This screams sudden mid-game overwhelm to me.
Buddy this is a worse patron and patron never saw play outside of the combo, in a meta with a significantly lower power level than this. Maybe there's some unseen combo that makes this insane, but I sincerely doubt it.
@@armotonpuppe2278 Grimm Patron: outside of combo warrior, you didn't have the options to actually trigger him safely. And any option to somewhat trigger them cost you a card. Gibbering Reject only costs you a hero power. And that is on top of being 4 mana instead of 5. Add something like multi strike, and suddenly you have 4 on the board for 5 mana, which would only give you 1 patron (and you would need 2 whirlwind effects to get to 4, 2 of them nearly dead). You can trigger the dublication before attacking with the Gibbering, making the attacks practically free as they replace themselves. You also don't lose boardslots to heavily damaged minions, that can't replicate. With Patrons, you could ignore 1 health ones and focus on eliminating the undamaged ones. A 3/1 patron has effectively no text. A 3/1 Gibbering is as dangerous as a 3/3 one.
I dunno. If the opponent cant clear all the gibberers, you can just attack to make more. And best of all, each gibberer makes a new one, so of you have 2 on the field and attack, you end with 4. Its kind of like how the old feral gibberer was decent back when.
Yeah, people are a bit difficult with gibbering. If your opponent can't answer them cleanly (and since you had a weap, they can't do it with their board), they'll just go out of control.
Multi-Strike is sufficient, to turn your 1 Gibbering into 4 for a total of 5 mana. (2 cards, 5 mana for 2x2 damage and 4x3/3 on the board that must be handled)
@@wurgel1 To be honest, I haven't played hearthstone in many years, so Going Down Swinging is the only card I knew of that gave DH multiple attacks ^_^;
Ngl I won't be the most upset getting gibbering reject from the mini 1/1 shopper. The text says "summon a gibbering reject", not a copy so you're getting a 3/3 after the mini of it pretty easy. Definitely does the job of diluting the demon pool for DH.
Well big warrior needs help. There's tentacles, bomb, odyn otk and last place not even in the race "big warrior". I even seen control enrage warrior it's better
@@peshomighty5051 you're right but I think the problem was not the new support card but safety goggles instead, turn 2 or turn 3 huge dude has to be a mistake
Happy to see deathrattles have a fighting chance vs battlecries finally. Also its a multi turn setup, multi card (not 5 armor). Not as bad as the others. I hope the game goes back to deathrattles and silence for counterplay ngl ~
chat compared the "pack" cards to Evocation from mage. An interesting comparison that actually makes them seem slightly better to me. At first I thought they were complete garbage but I could see some potential application.
Yeah but it filled your hand to the max and they were just mage spells and most mage spells are good at least in standard right now evocation would be good there’s pretty decent spells you could get
Like someone mentioned in chat, Product 9 works off of the 3 mana neutral demon that plays temporary secrets. Which means you can recast mage secrets :-))
I can't help but feel Gibbering Reject exists solely to make Window Shopper less likely to hit Magtheridon... Which, wow, really, you'd think they'd just do something about Window Shopper instead (put the damn thing to 7 Mana already)
Replicator-inator feels really weird.... Myabe you can play it in handbuff paladin and somehow duplicate leeroys but it feels impossible to do, really weird design. Pretty fun though
pro gamer might be good vs warrior/priest/warlock since they already have 8/9 cards for like 99% of the game, burn 2 for 2 mana is good, draw 2 for 2 mana is good, only bad outcome is 2 mana 2/3 do nothing in that situation.
Ladder is already full of fucking Brann warriors man. Literal monkeybrain deck. Same plays every single game. No switch ups, no interesting combos. The easy decks are not supposed to be this broken. We said make Warrior playable again, not make Warrior so uninteractive and unfun to be on the receiving end that you consider conceding on turn one because it’s not even worth sitting through all those turns just for the slight possibility that they can’t clear your board enough times.
I will just leave the idea here so I don't forget it on launch day. Pro Gamer rogue. Just bounce it over and over, who cares if you lose - they mill.... seems dangerous if you asked me.. but we theories have a tendency of falling flat
"This new Warrior card is gonna me cry" I adore your titles Rarran. I also really enjoy these videos where you just review new cards with your chat and get salty about DH still. Lol
Replicator got so much doubt to it but that effect is crazy. Ill be shocked if it doesn't define some combo or at least add insane value to a midrange/control deck.
Does Replicator-inator effect stack with its attack? So give the mini a buff and now you can choose what attack you want to copy? Like for shits you drop Ogrefist Boulder then buff the mini and now all 6 attack Minions copy
If mysterious challenger was in Hunter it would be broken, drawing and playing 10 mana worth of cards is stupid dumb and mysterious was already amazing in Paladin and so subject nine will probably see play because even though it has worse text than mysterious the fact it is in Hunter makes it good.
wilderness pack might work? most likely not tho has most beasts need hand buffs or are just bad maybe at 0 mana it will have been cool has turn 1 u get 5 chances to get a 1 drop? or maybe just the text "the first beast played costs 1 less this turn" or something like that
gibbering is good has u must kill it turn 4 if u had a weapon u have 2 3/3's and they need to kill both if u use the spell that makes u atk the enemy board u can fill your board there are some stuff that i will need to try and then think if its good or not but it might be quite insane
I don’t play hearthstone, but with gibberish reject, doesn’t it force your opponent to have to clear it next turn or it’ll double again? It’s 4 mana 12/12 next turn if they don’t touch it at all, 4 mana 9/9 if they only kill one. And it just continues the longer it takes to clear them
part scrapper is probably one of the most overrated cards ever. we'll see some goggles+part scrapper into zilliax highlights but most of the time you won't have all 3 in your hand at the start
it doesn't have to highroll that high, you can bank scrapper at any point and cash out at any point. warrior has tons of armor most of the time, which means you could get away with scrapper+stoneskin armorer instead of armor gain+armorer. You could also oscilator or tram operator beforehand for extra 1/2 reduction since spell isn't a mech itself. weaving in a 1 mana testing dummy at some point is devastating enough, heck even a 0 mana metrognome/burrow buster is problematic. not to mention now you can make containtment unit/factory assemblybot/wargear into legit early game threats.
@@ardayazar5705 at best we'll be using a single copy to pull of a triple/quadruple deathrattle combo with 2x boom wrench in a single turn, but then again, testing dummy works better for this than safety expert since you can just deal 32 to the face if the board is empty, and testing dummy can be played for just 1 mana as you said for a devastating combo. then they still have to kill the dummy, and take another 8, which can be followed by an inventor boom for 16 more (wreck em and deck em can be added in too, if testing dummy is played for 1 mana). but for that to happen the deck cant have any other mech that costs 5 or more, and you have to generate some early pressure, otherwise reno/control warriors will easily survive the burst from safety expert or testing dummy by stacking 40 armor before you can do anything. so the deck has to be a midrange deck with early pressure, heavy draw and board control tools, where the testing dummy combo can be used to deal like 44 damage to the face in a single turn as a finisher tool. the problem is that warrior doesn't really have any class minion that can win the board early and generate pressure except backstage bouncer, so I don't see how this can be a real deck. maybe doable with the small mechs as you said, but most of the low mana mechs are ass or people will make slower, safety expert decks that wins through attrition, but those decks are unlikely to beat reno warrior, zarimi priest and insanity warlock. chemical spill is probably better than part scrapper for those decks anyway, since you can pretty much guarantee that it dies by trading it into some trash, and battleworn faceless (or even crimson expanse) can be used to summon 2 safety experts at once
They only printed 1 good demon hunter card all last year, and they nerfed it beyond playability, but people won't stop complaining - imagine if people did this for all the tier 0 shaman decks we keep randomly having
i feel like cards are being given so much more value generation over time that draw will soon become a niche mechanic
Its like YUGIOH. Almost every card nowadays seems to fish something else out of your deck or graveyard or whatever so you're always card neutral if not plus.
@@MrShukaku1991draw is still very strong in yugioh, while searching can be really good, I think it’s used just as often as a design tool for limiting what you can get and limiting deck building. It can be easy to hand out searches when the cards your searching aren’t very strong, or lock you into playing a specific kind of deck… unless you snake eyes, but that deck just shouldn’t exist in general
Nope, value generation still depends on having the card in your hand. No point in having a deck with insane value if you don’t have It on curve or the right time
Deep miner bran for example insane value, useless without card draw though
@@MrShukaku1991not exactly like yugioh, hs generally fish for things in a large pool through generation or draw.
Yugioh generally works in lines of play which one card finds a specific one for whatever combo you're doing.
Id say yugioh is more specific since draw in yugioh is very premium.
But yeah card economy has been sped up in hs like crazy.
One of the reasons mana cheating is so amazing, since puking your hand out generally wont leave you without one.
Town Crier draws safety expert, chemical spill summons it, the weapon that triggers deathrattles curves into it, dr boom resummons it. exactly what mech warrior needed
me me cry
This^
Gibbering lolz
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You’re not seeing the dream of losing rock paper scissors on purpose for mill lol
We forever Stan mill decks
Feels like everyone is sleeping on the Gibbering Reject. The kind of deck that would run it would almost certainly have a board presence and most likely a weapon equipped before turn 4, which means this wouldn't go onto the board cold or undefended. Your opponent then has to clear both of them that turn or you're going to see at least one more 3/3. Then it's got a double utility of swarm potential or continued replenishing board control.
At worst it's a 5 mana 6/6, it will normally at be a 4 mana 6/6, but regularly a 4 mana 9/9, occasionally a 4 mana 12/12 or more.
This screams sudden mid-game overwhelm to me.
Buddy this is a worse patron and patron never saw play outside of the combo, in a meta with a significantly lower power level than this.
Maybe there's some unseen combo that makes this insane, but I sincerely doubt it.
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Grimm Patron: outside of combo warrior, you didn't have the options to actually trigger him safely. And any option to somewhat trigger them cost you a card. Gibbering Reject only costs you a hero power.
And that is on top of being 4 mana instead of 5. Add something like multi strike, and suddenly you have 4 on the board for 5 mana, which would only give you 1 patron (and you would need 2 whirlwind effects to get to 4, 2 of them nearly dead).
You can trigger the dublication before attacking with the Gibbering, making the attacks practically free as they replace themselves. You also don't lose boardslots to heavily damaged minions, that can't replicate. With Patrons, you could ignore 1 health ones and focus on eliminating the undamaged ones. A 3/1 patron has effectively no text. A 3/1 Gibbering is as dangerous as a 3/3 one.
Someone's definitely going to try Gibbering Reject with Going Down Swinging. Not worth, but funny.
I dunno. If the opponent cant clear all the gibberers, you can just attack to make more.
And best of all, each gibberer makes a new one, so of you have 2 on the field and attack, you end with 4.
Its kind of like how the old feral gibberer was decent back when.
or a windfury weapon from Ignis make a 2 mana or 4mana 12/12
Yeah, people are a bit difficult with gibbering. If your opponent can't answer them cleanly (and since you had a weap, they can't do it with their board), they'll just go out of control.
Multi-Strike is sufficient, to turn your 1 Gibbering into 4 for a total of 5 mana. (2 cards, 5 mana for 2x2 damage and 4x3/3 on the board that must be handled)
@@wurgel1 To be honest, I haven't played hearthstone in many years, so Going Down Swinging is the only card I knew of that gave DH multiple attacks ^_^;
Ngl I won't be the most upset getting gibbering reject from the mini 1/1 shopper. The text says "summon a gibbering reject", not a copy so you're getting a 3/3 after the mini of it pretty easy. Definitely does the job of diluting the demon pool for DH.
So much potential for pro gamer cause you can try to intentionally lose to make them mill xD
imagine turn 2 safety goggles into that 5 mana doctor boom in a bot
Well big warrior needs help. There's tentacles, bomb, odyn otk and last place not even in the race "big warrior".
I even seen control enrage warrior it's better
@@peshomighty5051 you're right but I think the problem was not the new support card but safety goggles instead, turn 2 or turn 3 huge dude has to be a mistake
Factory assembly bot on 5, testing dummy for 1 mana? Yeah part scrapper is going to be insane
Happy to see deathrattles have a fighting chance vs battlecries finally. Also its a multi turn setup, multi card (not 5 armor). Not as bad as the others. I hope the game goes back to deathrattles and silence for counterplay ngl ~
Aren't there 2 or 3 multi attack demon hunter cards to make the reject "work" just as a late game refill the board card i guess?
brother, its pronounced jibbering not gibbering
Classic Rarran moment - Reads the taunt generating card effect, checks up all class mechs "Yeah there's a couple good taunts"
Gibbering Reject into Going Down Swinging
Instant board full of 3/3's
Is it good? Probably not, but it's funny
Return Policy for Hydra is indeed an imagination
replicator copying a 1/1 when they are also adding a card that lets you turn ANY minion into a 1/1 will be interesting
safety expert is mostly if wheel of death comes back i think...
Video idea: you should do the whizbang win with all classes legendary challenge like you did before
chat compared the "pack" cards to Evocation from mage. An interesting comparison that actually makes them seem slightly better to me. At first I thought they were complete garbage but I could see some potential application.
Yeah but it filled your hand to the max and they were just mage spells and most mage spells are good at least in standard right now evocation would be good there’s pretty decent spells you could get
@@lrainwater1608 agreed
Now the question: will warlock get a pack as well to fuel any discard synergies?
This mech warrior with all the synergy sounds like such a high roll deck :(
Like someone mentioned in chat, Product 9 works off of the 3 mana neutral demon that plays temporary secrets. Which means you can recast mage secrets :-))
The mini replicator-inator with sonyia in rogue sounds kinda spooky no?
how so? board full of 1/1s? Deck is already struggling with board space already
Me Money. Many money me!
I can't help but feel Gibbering Reject exists solely to make Window Shopper less likely to hit Magtheridon... Which, wow, really, you'd think they'd just do something about Window Shopper instead (put the damn thing to 7 Mana already)
Replicator-inator feels really weird.... Myabe you can play it in handbuff paladin and somehow duplicate leeroys but it feels impossible to do, really weird design. Pretty fun though
pro gamer might be good vs warrior/priest/warlock since they already have 8/9 cards for like 99% of the game, burn 2 for 2 mana is good, draw 2 for 2 mana is good, only bad outcome is 2 mana 2/3 do nothing in that situation.
Ladder is already full of fucking Brann warriors man. Literal monkeybrain deck. Same plays every single game. No switch ups, no interesting combos. The easy decks are not supposed to be this broken. We said make Warrior playable again, not make Warrior so uninteractive and unfun to be on the receiving end that you consider conceding on turn one because it’s not even worth sitting through all those turns just for the slight possibility that they can’t clear your board enough times.
I will just leave the idea here so I don't forget it on launch day. Pro Gamer rogue. Just bounce it over and over, who cares if you lose - they mill.... seems dangerous if you asked me.. but we theories have a tendency of falling flat
"This new Warrior card is gonna me cry"
I adore your titles Rarran. I also really enjoy these videos where you just review new cards with your chat and get salty about DH still. Lol
The music coming in at 4:50 killed me
you know what song it is? Souds familiar but cant place it
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Replicator got so much doubt to it but that effect is crazy. Ill be shocked if it doesn't define some combo or at least add insane value to a midrange/control deck.
I'm sure I've seen Kripp mispronounce 'gibbering' before too. Is that word just not used in Canada?
I'm looking forward to the day someone turn 2 or 3 uses the part scrapper and coins a turn 3 Botface and Rarran loses his mind.
They added gibbering reject to dilute the demon pool because megatheriadon and illadri are too common 😊
As a dedicated arena player, I think you are over estimating how good some of these cards are in arena
gibbering attack twice = 4 3/3 so i guess were gonna get multi attacks next exp
I cannot wait to see a tournament where the winner brings pro-gamer to the tourney. I need this to happen.
I see potencial in Wilderness Pack. For wild spell only hunter
gibbering reject and multi-strike seems solid for an agro deck
So true dude Warrior is gonna make make cry too.
Games against warrior already make me cry 😢
I feel like in 2-3 years this be the new yugioh ...
Wilderness pack should be tradeable 🤔
Why has rarran yt titles been so weird recently lol
They keep giving warriors gas cards
Does Replicator-inator effect stack with its attack? So give the mini a buff and now you can choose what attack you want to copy? Like for shits you drop Ogrefist Boulder then buff the mini and now all 6 attack Minions copy
If mysterious challenger was in Hunter it would be broken, drawing and playing 10 mana worth of cards is stupid dumb and mysterious was already amazing in Paladin and so subject nine will probably see play because even though it has worse text than mysterious the fact it is in Hunter makes it good.
I'm a a fucking combo player and I loved stormind, specially brute dh with lions frenzy 😅
That replicator mini can duplicate the factory assembly bot mini in warrior, 3 mana deal 24 damage.
wilderness pack might work? most likely not tho has most beasts need hand buffs or are just bad maybe at 0 mana it will have been cool has turn 1 u get 5 chances to get a 1 drop? or maybe just the text "the first beast played costs 1 less this turn" or something like that
gibbering is good has u must kill it turn 4 if u had a weapon u have 2 3/3's and they need to kill both if u use the spell that makes u atk the enemy board u can fill your board there are some stuff that i will need to try and then think if its good or not but it might be quite insane
Lik this if you cri ____ tim....
Bargain bin seems nutty
The best title I've ever seen
I don’t play hearthstone, but with gibberish reject, doesn’t it force your opponent to have to clear it next turn or it’ll double again? It’s 4 mana 12/12 next turn if they don’t touch it at all, 4 mana 9/9 if they only kill one. And it just continues the longer it takes to clear them
Not saying it’s great or anything I really don’t know. Just that seems there’s some idea behind it, not some “what’s even ten point of this?”card.
It me cry too.
It me cry too
me cry
the title of this video is gonna me cry
0 mana get 6 armor turn two ziliax :)
If you have a weapon? Doesn't demon hunter access hero attacks for 1 mana?
and several option to attack multiple times a turn on the cheap.
part scrapper is probably one of the most overrated cards ever. we'll see some goggles+part scrapper into zilliax highlights but most of the time you won't have all 3 in your hand at the start
it doesn't have to highroll that high, you can bank scrapper at any point and cash out at any point. warrior has tons of armor most of the time, which means you could get away with scrapper+stoneskin armorer instead of armor gain+armorer. You could also oscilator or tram operator beforehand for extra 1/2 reduction since spell isn't a mech itself. weaving in a 1 mana testing dummy at some point is devastating enough, heck even a 0 mana metrognome/burrow buster is problematic. not to mention now you can make containtment unit/factory assemblybot/wargear into legit early game threats.
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at best we'll be using a single copy to pull of a triple/quadruple deathrattle combo with 2x boom wrench in a single turn, but then again, testing dummy works better for this than safety expert since you can just deal 32 to the face if the board is empty, and testing dummy can be played for just 1 mana as you said for a devastating combo. then they still have to kill the dummy, and take another 8, which can be followed by an inventor boom for 16 more (wreck em and deck em can be added in too, if testing dummy is played for 1 mana). but for that to happen the deck cant have any other mech that costs 5 or more, and you have to generate some early pressure, otherwise reno/control warriors will easily survive the burst from safety expert or testing dummy by stacking 40 armor before you can do anything. so the deck has to be a midrange deck with early pressure, heavy draw and board control tools, where the testing dummy combo can be used to deal like 44 damage to the face in a single turn as a finisher tool. the problem is that warrior doesn't really have any class minion that can win the board early and generate pressure except backstage bouncer, so I don't see how this can be a real deck. maybe doable with the small mechs as you said, but most of the low mana mechs are ass
or people will make slower, safety expert decks that wins through attrition, but those decks are unlikely to beat reno warrior, zarimi priest and insanity warlock. chemical spill is probably better than part scrapper for those decks anyway, since you can pretty much guarantee that it dies by trading it into some trash, and battleworn faceless (or even crimson expanse) can be used to summon 2 safety experts at once
Does part scrapper stack?
should. same wording as was used for mechathun combo.
Me when I me me cry 😂
They only printed 1 good demon hunter card all last year, and they nerfed it beyond playability, but people won't stop complaining - imagine if people did this for all the tier 0 shaman decks we keep randomly having