CHEAP NEW MUSIC STREAMER! Does it beat the WIIM?
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2022
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Aww man! Just bought the Wiim on the $80 sale! I am liking it. Favorite feature is the easy setup and use with NAS/DLNA. So nice to have the ability to play my stuff without having an entire collection on my phone or tablet. I do wish there was a feature for grabbing artwork. Looks like the only ones that show up are files with art attached.
Giveet Bluetooth 5.2 Transmitter Receiver for TV to Wireless Headphones/Speakers, APTX Adaptive/HD/Low Latency Wireless 3.5mm AUX Audio Adapter, £23. I also have a higoing brand where I stream from my mobile through a HD drive plugged into it with 800 flac albums on it. Sounds great.
I LOVE Sith Audio products. I hope they re-release the Anti-Resonance Suppositories. They've paid for themselves. 👍
👍is the directions for application
They will be releasing a version with built-in streaming
Check ebay you should still be able to get one used.
Too bad I can't wait so long
The humor! Your imitation of the light audio device falling is spot on. Years of practice I presume.
Thanks Randy! Had me rolling this morning with the Sith Audio storage system!
I like the handy organizing tab that is optionally engaged. Thank you Sith Audio.
Excellent as usual. Here is a tip for your Wiim. Rather than a heavy weight, I use a long strip of double sided velcro tape 10mm wide. This you can wrap right over the top of it and underneath whatever your Wiim is sitting on. Stays put and should not fall off if you pull it tight enough. Available as garden ties from various retailers.
When I saw the thumbnail for this video I gasped because I just ordered a second Wiim mini and I was afraid this was going to give me buyers remorse, but seems like I'll be sticking to the Wiim mini until I can afford a Bluesound Powernode Edge. Thanks for all you do man!
Thanks for a great review. Nice to see a company making a run at a lower cost product. WiiM has a solid foundation and looks like they keep listen to customer feed back. I'm interested to see if this company will evolve there product with software updates.
You know...I was just thinking, some manufacturers should get with you to create "Cheapaudioman" components based on your recommendations for parts, chips, connects, software, features, etc.
This man’s tangents are stuff of legend. That damn cantaloupe
ha
That trash can rant kinda reminded me of Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor!😂
I did notice that this product has an optional remote control which undecided how handy that would be if you can control it with your phone?? I'm sure more and more companies are going to be trying to make a copy of the WiiM with its popularity now. Thanks for bringing us these.
I was sceptical that the WiiM Mini could be any good at such a cheap price. Mind blown at quality of the music when listening to master recordings on Tidal. One word to sum up the WiiM “brilliant “. Thanks for the recommendation.😊
I feel the trash can pain brother! You see there wasn’t a bag in there… now you get to clean the trash can!
As long as Sith Audio pays you well, I have no problem with these commercial messages. For us always a good laugh.
12:37 Maybe the "LR" setting combines the L&R to make a mono output.. I use mono out in my restaurant's music system so all speakers sound in phase..
A first generation product. Need to watch and see if these guys are as committed to continuing upgrades as Wiim. If not product will die, if so then a revisit in 6 months may be deserved. Wiim is great product and hard act to follow but some competition can't be a bad thing
agreed.
Wiim Minis' dedication to software improvements, is the reason I have purchased 2 more. For the money, they continue to set the bar for low cost streaming, IMO.
6:05 got me man... thank you for the great review. 😂
most importantly what did it sound like? or did you not have that power cable you mentioned? 🤔
Nice return to sith audio! Doesn't matter the quality of the product. It's all in the advertisement. Goes for anything these days. That why people like you are so important.
The hook brings you back!
I bought the WiiM and I love it. Sounds great and easy to use.
Snatched up the Wiim for $79 earlier this week. II just hooked up the Wiim yesterday... Figures! Love the channel Randy, Sith Audio is counting on you!! 🍻
This one is a hard pass for me. The Wiim mini is the cheapest streamer to beat at it's price. I think the user experience and the ease of use is the most important thing in a streamer.
Nice review Randy, there was a poll of the Pandora power user and both of them said they were happy with what they had.
lol. I had to read that twice to get the joke
😂😂😂
I must be one of them and I like to keep my options open. 😉
lmao
Hi Randy, I really enjoy watching your videos. There are two things that I think would be great if you'd add them to your reviews. First, it would be nice to know if the reviewed Bookshelf Speakers could be used in a nearfield environment and second why not rank all the reviewed DACS and Speakers in your Tier List? Wish you all the best from Germany. Take care! :)
Ranking into tiers is a more honest and objective method. Within tiers, similar products will have small tradeoffs good and bad in comparison with others. Different people prioritize features differently. I'm not trying to argue with you, just sharing why some people like myself prefer a tiered evaluation. If Randy says product A is better than B because of 1 feature that's important to him, then I go by product A, when the feature I want is actually better in product B. For me personally, a tier gets the viewer into a ballpark, and lets them make decisions more tuned to their needs. Also prices change frequently. It's easy to prefer 1 product based upon price difference, but when prices change the other way, that preference would no longer be valid. The tiered system is more forgiving of price fluctuation.
Thanks!
Thanks for this review Randy! I'm still very impressed with the WIIM Mini and how the software is almost constantly upgraded with new features . . . although it's wise to use an external DAC with the WIIM. 😁 I'm feeling that the WIIM folks are due to come out with a new version of the Mini soon . . . No solid info on this, just a feeling. 😉🙄
wiim pro with ethernet will be a good upgrade.
Using mine through a Topping E50.Sounds fantastic.
@@rosshamilton7876 connected through spdif? Asking because I’m thinking about going the same route
Hello, between the wiim mini and the allo digione, which one would you recommend? Thank you very much, I enjoy your videos
I dont think that's a fair comparison. This and wiim are standalone plug and play. Allo digione requires you to configure a raspberri pi and possibly incorporate additional devices and cards. Cumulatively it's much more money. I like Raspberry pi steamers a lot but that is a different market. My favorite raspberry pi setup is actually just the $15 pi zero W w/ usb output straight into a DAC. No need for any add on cards or more expense if you already have a DAC.
Randy, have you had an opportunity to give the Arylic S10 a review? I am intrigued … but I am curious if the WiiM is really wheee I should be looking. :)
1. I connecting to my receiver via Bluetooth when I get to work and listen to music via my favorite app on my phone = great!
2. Staff start to show up and we all listen to music....= great!
3.a I get a phone call - music stops ------wont play while I'm on my phone.
3.b I get in my car - music starts playing in my car ---- wont play at work because its following me with my phone...
!? How do I use a >streamer< to play music at the work regardless if I'm on the phone or in my car. Can a streamer be a stand alone source of content or do I need to buy a burner phone and leave it at work...?
Wiim pro is coming, with proposed msrp of $150. It's going to be a clear winner above this and the original wiim mini. It's close enough to just hold off and wait.
Wiim pro brings increases from original mini's dual core to quad core cpu, jumps from 128mb ram to 512mb. Adds 12v trigger out, rca in, rca out, ethernet/LAN, coax out, separate spdif in +out, headphone out, remote control.
Plus some new streaming platform compatability such as chromecast audio. It looks like a top shelf component and worth the extra $60.
Visually, it's square and looks very similar to topping a50/d50 in size and rounded corner profile, but of course in plastic case.
Maybe if there was a Sith Audio weight for substantially light streamers. Could help enhance the sound.
Delivering the Sith Audio with a straight face a feat.
I like having an ethernet port! I'm a bit sad about the power cable connector.
Are any of these budget streamers Roon Ready? I'm using a Raspberry Pi with an external DAC on my HiFi but would love to have a simpler (and with the price of RPis these day - if you can find them) for other parts of the house.
The mini is not roon ready. Too little memory. But I think the pro is
Glad I bought a couple of Chromecast Audio devices a few years back. They were very cheap. Shame Google stopped making them.
Take a look at the Carot One line/headphone valve amplifier, you will want to audition it.
I have a Bose bluetooth on my denon 4300 and my denon X4700h has a Bluetooth built in. yeah life's good. i don't have golden ears so it sounds great.
I am looking at the WIIM streamer, but I think I am going to wait until there is an Ethernet port on a possible upgraded model offering. Hard wired connections are more reliable.
Agreed. My office is on the corner of the house and it’s kind of the edge of my internet. Still trying to get things ideal in there
I want a sith audio cart!!! Also F pandora!! Is that still a thing??
Thanks
It appears to be on Amazon now.
sandbag... if you are in FL you may want to keep those handy before you repurpose them. (too soon?)
Randy, do you use a Synology NAS?
It's not super cheap but I recommend the iFi ipower super mega wall wart power supply. Perfect for this situation in that it comes with multiple barrel and usb connectors for all your small hifi PSU needs.
I also think it improves the sound of at least some components, but that may be no more than placebo effect and I'm sure many of you will tell me I'm talking b*llocks.
They also work as a neat little travel adapter for taking on your holidays.
Love the hilarious parental observation. I know exactly what you're talking about.
I'm sure they're using the same framework. Wiim seems more mature and established. I had a few hiccups with my Wiim but it was mostly on my end and has to tweak my WiFi router settings.
Not only are the frameworks for many of these apps, and their general platform the same, they often work with each others hardware. Wiim and Arylic are the best two (hardware and app) performers currently. Right now I'm listening to my Arylic s10 into a Rotel 2-ch amp, being controlled by the wiim app. Arylic uses 4stream app. They are both great. If your streamer location will allow connection to ethernet, than the arylic s10 is the choice. If wifi only, than the wiim is great. If you can wait until unknown date in November, the wiim pro will be released adding ethernet, more processing power, and additional connection options. It will be the overall winner.
Interesting if it could be powered with Power over Ethernet (PoE). Some of the choices made for inputs were also 'interesting'. Seems like you'd go for ubiquitous technologies if you're looking to maximize your sales market. 🤔
agreed. I didn't check into the POE. but it's funny you mention that because at my last real job that was such a push for some of the devices we were selling. Haven't heard that term for a while.
@@cheapaudioman FYI - Thanks for cleaning up my other response. You beat me to removing it. ;-)
Noice bro!!!!
Where the heck are the Sith Audio links? Their equipment always looks so useful.
I can't wait for the Sith Audio micro USB cables now in new audiophile colors including "old milk" and "rotten cantaloupe".
That was funny, light components do tip just like that 🤣
Me Contemplating my 4 backup chromecast audio still unused 🤩
I have fosi v3… i want to buy a bluetooth dac for it… which one would be better if I want to connect via rca - wiim mini or nobsound Q4 ?
It will come down to software. The plus of WiiM Mini is Linkplay, which is traditionally a software company, so the software support is unraveled.
This one also uses linkplay.
@@marttiliikala7330 But the difference is, the WiiM Mini is released by LinkPlay directly, whereas the company that makes this machine probably licensed the LinkPlay's software module. This means that LinkPlay will continue to push software updates to the WiiM Mini, whereas it will not do so for the new device, unless the company of the new device pays for the update. Remember, LinkPlay is a software company first, so they will develop for other companies only when they are paid to do so...
This is pretty handy. Seems like no Tidal connect tho.
Randy, vTuner is Internet Radio.
Hands down hardest I've laughed in a long, long time.
Unfortunately I already ordered a CS1 that I cannot seem to receive in the Mail cuz no-one is too sure when it will be ready to be available to be had. "sometime in March" could mean latter 2023 I suppose.
IR in as in Infra-red in? For a remote?
Randy love your work man. Always looks forward to your videos. Just wanted to put this out there. Give this song a listen. It’s one of my favorite songs for low and high mids on male vocals. Cheers
Shai - Together Forever
Randy, does the IEast function as a Roon endpoint? So far the only thing that is remotely attractive about this product is that it has an Ethernet port. Thanks.
it will via airplay. but not bit perfectly. a lot of products claim Roon compatible but it's just using airplay. great cheap Roon endpoint is the rasb pi running ropiee. if you're not into that the Ifi zen stream has a Roon function. it's expensive for what you get though
Sirius XM\Pandora are coming to the Wiim mini
is there a mini streamer that has a digital coax output? My Amp can only accept up to 24bit 96khz input via Toslink but can accept 24 bit 192khz via digital coax.
Nexum TuneBox 2 has a digital coaxial output and a mini-optical/analog output (like the old Chromecast audio). It’s set-up is similar to the WiiM (but fussier in my experience) You can find on eBay , but it’s a crapshoot.i have four, three i still use, one I gave up on trying to get it connected reliably. You can get a signal converter, optical to coaxial - those are cheap and would do the trick.
Is there a vegan cruelty free version of the Sith Audio cartridge storage system?
Does it have a better DAC than the WIIM Pro?
Your last several videos have left me thinking I was born in Chicago in 19 and 41...
Don't mesh routers transparently support 2.4 and 5ghz?
some extenders are 5ghz only. I'm by no means an expert though.
Did I miss how it sounds? I don't think you mentioned how the internal dac sounds or connected to an outboard DAC. How does it sound compared to the WIIM?
I returned the WIIM after I heard a Chromecast version was coming out.
Maybe ieast sound better
I've just read the specs and and one advantage over the Wiim is that this allows optical in through the 3.5 mm input. Could be useful for anyone who wants to get audio out of a tv etc
Yes i ve one and i previous to buy an external dac with this. More over the sound of ieast is better that wiim (without externe dac) from an user who had both but i never ear the wiim. Ieast have an ess sabre and the sound quality is already very nice
My cable was in the coffee puddle in the trash can that didn't get the replacement bag. Three pet peeves in one place: no bag, tossing a cable, and not pouring out the drink before dumping the cup (should have drank the whole thing actually). Gah! Losing my mind.
That made me chuckle
So it supports flac and etc but the only codex is sbc. Is that wrong or
I didn't check the BT codecs on it. SBC is fine and in some respects even better than AAC. but BT function here is an afterthought.
Godzilla here. Giving WiiM Pro another try. Am ordering remote also. Had connectivity issues with first one so just used the mini. Am used to resetting the mini once or twice a day. Will try to force the Pro to ignore Wi-Fi and just use Ethernet Either way nothing is perfect. WiiM streaming is still better than Bluesound Node 2021 I used (sounds better).
Did you say amazon music?
Pandora works through the WiiM
Mini, but it’s via Airplay..👨🏻
Can the Wiim mini read memory cards or hard drives? This can (and suspect the mini NOT). That is a huge advantage
No.
The WiiM can access NAS drives and shared folders but has no USB port, other than for power.
Here's hoping for a WiiM Pro Mk2 with USB input.
on the AliExpress page it says it does 24/192 hi-res, so it's like the WiiM
But it is not clear if the 24:192 is reserved for the internal dac or also to passthrough bitperfect for another, better dac
What about something like a roku express. It's got airplay 2, spotify etc. Much cheaper. Only downside is hdmi out which can be converted if your audio player doesn't support hdmi.
The beauty of a music streamer is that it’s not dependent on a television.
@@Feliciano12v my roku works even when tv is off.
@@MichalPalczewski yeah… But you need a TV for the Roku to work. Most stereo preamps/integrated amplifiers don’t have an HDMI input.
You need a TV only for setting up for the first time.
I wonder just how many jokes I'm missing in these videos.
Does the optical out restrict things to 96khz?
I don’t think it’s outputting any high res. I don’t think there is a hardware limitation around it. I don’t think one is getting high res out of this thing with the current software rev
First view sweet lol love the emotiva b1+ and your vids
Reelin' In The IEAST? Stowing away the WIIM?
Interesting...
Apparently Wiim are added Pandora 9/30, picked up my WiiM on Amazon for $75 can't beat that.
The garbage can comments had me rolling 🤣
You could tell he was emotionally scarred by the ordeal. 😆
@@ComputerGeeks-R-Us agreed I love randy he's hysterical
If only it had chromecast, then it would have an advantage on the Wiim
Chromecast audio is coming to wiim. It is advertised as a new compatability for the wiim mini pro that is soon to release. My guess is the chromecast ends up backwards compatible to original wiim mini, since they are on same OS / mobile app.
Ok… hear me out… listen to 1000 Clowns,song Freelance Bubblehead. That’s the name of the album too.
WiiM is the only streamer with Alexacast that I know of
I think that Heos and play fi can use Alexa. Bluesound as well but they're all significantly more expensive. Great point and thanks for bringing it up
@@cheapaudioman But you cannot 'cast' to them from the Amazon Music app the way you can with the Wiim.....🙂
oh jezz I just bought two WiiM’s.
(Post review)
I think I’m better off with the WiiM. But maybe it’s a future contender
I see an overwhelming amount of positive mentions of the WiiM. About to buy one aswell. Do I need to put a DAC between it and active speakers?
@@OOOOOOOKKKKKKK69 you shouldn’t need to,, the WiiM has a built in dac,, but your actives may as well. You may see an improvement by adding a better dac, but that also depends on how good your speakers are, or perhaps if the speaker manufacturer cheaped out on the built in dac. The WiiM dac sounds good for what it is though.
@@cdelapaz5 Thanks for the info!
I got the edifier S2000MKII which i'm enjoying very much. (active speakers)
Was wondering if adding the WiiM would add anything, or if it would be better to stream tidal masters through a cable instead of bluetooth to the speakers from a tablet
Hey, Randy - will you be reviewing the Eversolo DMP A6 streamer? At just $900, people are losing their sh*t over it...
I use my computer as a music streamer. Don't need all those extra stuff.
The Wiim is hard to beat.
agreed
USB-A to DC power cable is included but no USB wall wart...
yeah. not completely uncommon though. I don't think the wiim includes a wall adapter either
We can thank Apple for starting that trend with their phones.
Soporta tidal master?
It would be great if Sith Audio made a trash can that is also an audiophile grade cable storage bin.
brilliant
@@cheapaudioman I would Buy a Sith Audio Trash can.. Merch idea...
I would buy a Sith Audio Trash Can to support the channel.
Trust me, after all the hype is over, but the WiiM, the app is awesome and the sound is awesome.
The WiiM streamer is a winner.
Im not sur 😁
First a duster then air now a paper box,but all audiophile rated,does these jokers actually sell this sh*t
Doesn't seem worth getting this one over the Wiim unless you don't have or want an external dac
You can have an external dac with this one because there is an optical output.
@@kyanr7778 Yes you can I just meant the internal dac in this one is supposed to be better than the one in the Wiim mini
@@markc5677 ok yes it is
I have no idea how the review turned out, because I'm stuck hard agreeing with the rant at 6:07
yeah. the struggle is real
@@cheapaudioman ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK!
I’m gonna put
Patty -O -Block
On top of my streamer.
It goes to show, if you don’t like current offerings, wait a minute.