should have FULLY allowed clay articles to AIR DRY! slow moisture purge and evaporation. THEN fired. the remaining moisture in the clay caused your crackings!
Just a quick tip. Like you said, the only ones that broke were the coil pots. Thats probably because they weren't held together well. If you're doing coil, you have to use something called slip which is usually just clay mixed in water. It should be like a paste. You would use that as a glue to keep pieces together. More importantly, you made them as one coil. When doing coil, it should be done one coil at a time not just a long coil. That long coil prevents you from being able to score and slip then together. Scoring means putting marks in the clay so that the slip binds them together better. If you try that, it should prevent extreme cracks like yours was. Much love, someone who just finished his first semester in which he took a ceramics class. Hope that helped.
It may have cooled too quickly, clay and glass firing equipment usually has fire-brick surrounding the firing area to insulate it, and let it cool way more slowly than the bbq cools... a bbq will be cool to the touch in a matter of an hour after the fire dies, where the fire-brick ovens that fire glass and ceramics will stay warm for much longer than that...
I've had similar problems melting glass in campfires... you put the bottle in, and inevitably its broken somewhere by morning, even if you just let the fire go out slowly...
Could be the case but a coal of fire of that size dying out naturally is a pretty slow process. It should work. But extra insulation would be helpful anyway. I personally think the heating and cooling down between stages is where the cracks happened.
This is also something that might be solved by using some sort of refractory insulation like they use in their propane crucible, as you would get a more even heat, and wouldn't need to keep opening it and moving the bits around...
You're supposed to knead clay while wedging it. Throw it down then push forward and roll it up then repeat. Also slip and score the coils or they won't hold together and don't forget to pinch the coils together to bind them together.
Clay Shimon I need to ask a question y do we need art and world history and algebra in school what are we learning on world history and when are u Bing to use letters in math in the real world
Sort of, but the things he made were more made for heating metals than they were for firing clay. Clay requires temperature control over long periods. Metals don't. More traditional pottery kilns are a different beast.
Yo I’m a bit late but the natives never scored it and their pottery style still works. You can simply pinch and schmear it together. He should’ve definitely schmeared it down some.
Wheel Potter - Thoughts on clay cracks - All clay has a percentage of shrinkage when it dries and when it fires. this can be anywhere between 4% to 15% shrinkage. Depending on the size of a piece this can be very minimal (1/4") to over an inch worth of a difference. A piece that has thinner spots vs thicker spots will dry at different rates and change how the piece shrinks uniformly. If a part of the pot shrinks faster than another part, it will separate causing a crack. The Clay needs to dry slowly until it is ready to fire to help prevent cracking. Porcelain is a very fine clay with no grog, it is quite strong when fired, but it also shrinks the most because as it dries the clay particles pack together tighter. The more grog that is included the less shrinkage you will have. Primitive technology was able to quickly dry his pieces by a fire due to the large amount of grog and impurities in his clay that prevented the clay from shrinking so much. A method that I use to help dry slower is to place a bucket, or other solid container, upside down over the piece, on top of stilts to allow a small slit of airflow from the bottom. I've used popsicle sticks, or even 1" thick blocks to raise the upside down bucket a bit. This creates a sort of "damp box" that prevents the moisture from escaping too quickly. Depending on the gap in your bucket, you can extend the drying time up to a few weeks.
Yes. And joining the top roll to the one beneath by pushing it down into it. But it wouldn't have worked anyway, because the clay was probably to lean.
Two things I notice. One was your wedging technique. You're supposed to toss it through a stretched wire or fishing line onto a table then knead to further work out any bubbles. The other was using plain water to get the coils to stick together. I was taught that you had to use a thin paste of clay and water known as "slip" to act as a glue for hand built pots. I hope this helps in future projects.
When I as in my ceramics class, my teacher always had us loosely place a plastic bag over our works to either keep them moist and workable for the next day, or to let them dry slowly. If you just leave them out in the open right after working them (probably like what you did), then they dry out and shrink too quickly and that's why they crack. When people say to let ceramics dry slowly, they mean REAL slow, like 2-4 days of slowly letting it dry out.
If you would like to see that video you should go to another UA-cam channel named "How to Make Everything". He has already done this and made a very interesting video
If you put food coloring in water and then put it in the distiller you used in a previous video and would the food coloring evaporate with it and land in the top or would it stay behind
That Focused beam of light and Heat would turn the water inside the exposed section of clay into steam, its basicaly the same result as you'd get when you put a undamaged Potato into a Microwave at 1000 Watts for 5 Minutes, it explodes (Though on a much smaller scale).
im in a ceramics class currently and thats the first thing you learn and also the wedging the clay isnt just throwing it on the table. so that didnt help either because it wasnt wedged correctly.
I was taught to never use a true coil base. You take some clay and after wedging have it rolled to the thickness desired. You don't want a thin base, nor do you want a thick one. The cracks he allowed would've definitely caused trouble as well. We were taught to monitor our pots as they dried, and if cracks began to form we could reinforce it with more clay and slurry.
Having worked a lot with Ceramics myself, it cracked because he made the walls so uneven. If the clay is the right consistency scoring isn't necessary and with that small amount of clay it looked like he wedged it right, as long as he did it for an extended period. Having watched the video making the clay, I think they left too much silt in it as well, as well as dumped too much clay, so it cracked from that too.
that was fast, you went and bought clay, or found it, worked it, and formed a play button. Then fired it and set it all under 20 minutes? thats insane, you should start a business
Hmm a Thermo-Can filled to the brim with Dry Ice and some water (For addtional Prssure) to then putting it into a Fire. I belive the fire will be extigushed by the lack of Oxygen, and possibly the Shockwave of the Exploding Thermo-Can.
I'm a ceramicist, and the trick to keeping your clay from cracking is holding it a 200° F for two hours before increasing the temperature. This removes all ambient water. After that, increasing temperature by 300°F per hour is what I do.
ohhh please do more ceramics! I would love to see if you could build a real in ground kiln in the backyard! also i would love to see more "survival prepper" type videos!
I want to see a portable power bank or power station that you could use as a backup battery at home for when the power is out or if you want portable power. station.
I found it painful too. When they made the clay they pored out too much clay and left too much silt, then they built the pots with all the skill of a 3 year old😢
I have not tried this method but I have been successful in using a chimney starter and sitting the clay on top I used hardwood lump charcoal and it made the clay glow orange I kept adding more and moving the clay up i did this for about 4 hours and ended up with sintered clay
i found when i fired clay when i was yonger what i did was get a propane stove that is designed to put a pot on , and a rack for the clay. then i put the clay right ontop f the rack just above the flames, then i put a metal coffee container on top and waited about 20 mins they turned out great
Just a little tip for the coil pot: You should just connect each individual coil to each other by stroking your thumb up and down instead of side to side :D
“Clay... I’m sorry but I’m gonna have to let ya go”
There. Clay is now fired😆
*Slow clapping*
ZozTheKing The Real Zoz Man I bet you can't stand a lot of things. Like keeping your mouth shut.
And now that Clay is Aiken...
Marcus Lim it should work they been making clay pots for 100s of year the oldest cookingvwear found
Marcus Lim p
should have FULLY allowed clay articles to AIR DRY! slow moisture purge and evaporation. THEN fired. the remaining moisture in the clay caused your crackings!
I am new to clay.. my dried overnight mini clay pottery literally EXPLODED when I try to dry it in foster oven lol
@@sugercane333 sounds like air pockets were present inside your clay
I agree did same mistake as a begginer. Learned a lesson you cannot force anything you want to turn beautiful
@@MusicIsMyOxycontin Completely incorrect. Air bubbles are not an issue!!!
Bingo!
Just a quick tip. Like you said, the only ones that broke were the coil pots. Thats probably because they weren't held together well. If you're doing coil, you have to use something called slip which is usually just clay mixed in water. It should be like a paste. You would use that as a glue to keep pieces together. More importantly, you made them as one coil. When doing coil, it should be done one coil at a time not just a long coil. That long coil prevents you from being able to score and slip then together. Scoring means putting marks in the clay so that the slip binds them together better. If you try that, it should prevent extreme cracks like yours was. Much love, someone who just finished his first semester in which he took a ceramics class. Hope that helped.
It may have cooled too quickly, clay and glass firing equipment usually has fire-brick surrounding the firing area to insulate it, and let it cool way more slowly than the bbq cools... a bbq will be cool to the touch in a matter of an hour after the fire dies, where the fire-brick ovens that fire glass and ceramics will stay warm for much longer than that...
I've had similar problems melting glass in campfires... you put the bottle in, and inevitably its broken somewhere by morning, even if you just let the fire go out slowly...
wow, I got a
Could be the case but a coal of fire of that size dying out naturally is a pretty slow process. It should work. But extra insulation would be helpful anyway.
I personally think the heating and cooling down between stages is where the cracks happened.
This is also something that might be solved by using some sort of refractory insulation like they use in their propane crucible, as you would get a more even heat, and wouldn't need to keep opening it and moving the bits around...
Garret Hoffman definitely best answer!
You're supposed to knead clay while wedging it. Throw it down then push forward and roll it up then repeat. Also slip and score the coils or they won't hold together and don't forget to pinch the coils together to bind them together.
As someone who does ceramics and goes on the wheel a lot, your “wedging” drove me crazy
What did he do wrong
Mix negative x with thermite then add water
Mikropro 2.0 LOL 😂
Although the results would probably.. BOOM it would be interesting if something else hapened
Mikropro 2.0 LOLOLOL
You need to score it and use slip also try need in it differently
michael gutierrez I wasn’t at school today; did we have any math homework?
Learned this in ceramic class I made huge coil vases
I haven’t heard anyone say “score and slip” since 7th grade art class.
Finally some saints some thing
NO DONT FIRE ME I CAN HELP THE COMPANY!
Clay Shimon funny
Sorry sir, you have been outdone by the newbie, Glass.
lololololollo
Clay Shimon I need to ask a question y do we need art and world history and algebra in school what are we learning on world history and when are u Bing to use letters in math in the real world
the company really means a lot to me....hahahaha
😂😂😂😂
You should ask some tips for *Primitive Technology*
Please can you make a backyard kiln?
He already has. Search his videos.
Sort of, but the things he made were more made for heating metals than they were for firing clay. Clay requires temperature control over long periods. Metals don't. More traditional pottery kilns are a different beast.
You guys should do glass blowing in the foundry
The clay is on fire 🔥
Aditya Thakur noice
Confusing Alibi its lit
Someone put me out
*pours liquid nitrogen on you.
*Art student screaming* You didn't Slip, Score, Seal!
Yo I’m a bit late but the natives never scored it and their pottery style still works. You can simply pinch and schmear it together. He should’ve definitely schmeared it down some.
Wheel Potter - Thoughts on clay cracks - All clay has a percentage of shrinkage when it dries and when it fires. this can be anywhere between 4% to 15% shrinkage. Depending on the size of a piece this can be very minimal (1/4") to over an inch worth of a difference. A piece that has thinner spots vs thicker spots will dry at different rates and change how the piece shrinks uniformly. If a part of the pot shrinks faster than another part, it will separate causing a crack. The Clay needs to dry slowly until it is ready to fire to help prevent cracking. Porcelain is a very fine clay with no grog, it is quite strong when fired, but it also shrinks the most because as it dries the clay particles pack together tighter. The more grog that is included the less shrinkage you will have. Primitive technology was able to quickly dry his pieces by a fire due to the large amount of grog and impurities in his clay that prevented the clay from shrinking so much.
A method that I use to help dry slower is to place a bucket, or other solid container, upside down over the piece, on top of stilts to allow a small slit of airflow from the bottom. I've used popsicle sticks, or even 1" thick blocks to raise the upside down bucket a bit. This creates a sort of "damp box" that prevents the moisture from escaping too quickly. Depending on the gap in your bucket, you can extend the drying time up to a few weeks.
Dude do some experiments with a laser
Yeah dude do some experiences with a laser.
You da Man Nate! Love the positive attitude! Keep up the good work!
Exodarion thank you even tho I didn't really do any thing... Btw how do you know my name... Lol
empty goodlife holy shlt. You are a typical king of random viewer right?
COOL!!-Make a brick wall
Александр ForestLamp And we will make his neighbors pay for it!
Like Trump lol
This video crushed my soul on so many levels. Internally yelling at how wrong some of these methods are
Your supposed to score and slip it
You also went to junior high?
drippingwax ?
Yes probably why it didnt work
Yes. And joining the top roll to the one beneath by pushing it down into it.
But it wouldn't have worked anyway, because the clay was probably to lean.
As a ceramics student I was going: AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! The entire time.
Why?
Can you atleast point out what to do instead of complaining?
@@santiagocortez9554 maybe look up how to really wedge bc thats not it at all
That clay has a wife and children! You can't fire him, he needs this job!
Justin Murray ...and so does the coal, but they got burned and roasted🔥
Nah coal's a freeloader. It's been in it's bed so long you need a geologist to help figure that one out.
seigeengine actually that kind of coal is char coal and it's got hella additives that make it ash up more then normal charcoal
seigeengine and it's made from burning wood. Has not even sat around long at all.
Two things I notice. One was your wedging technique. You're supposed to toss it through a stretched wire or fishing line onto a table then knead to further work out any bubbles. The other was using plain water to get the coils to stick together. I was taught that you had to use a thin paste of clay and water known as "slip" to act as a glue for hand built pots. I hope this helps in future projects.
As a Potter I found it entertaining to watch this! I'd be curious to see an attempt at a proper pit fire and possible glazing!
Neighbors: Hey, watcha grilling over there?
King of Random: ...Clay...
you should make a bow and cast some metal arrowheads! :)
Great idea
Amazing idea
Make the clay and put it in liquid nitrogen, what will happen?
fired or unfired?
Melamine might as well do both 😁
It would freeze then it will start cracking then break
The Rival Gamer I’d freeze to death
Can you put bubble wrap in vacuume
When I as in my ceramics class, my teacher always had us loosely place a plastic bag over our works to either keep them moist and workable for the next day, or to let them dry slowly. If you just leave them out in the open right after working them (probably like what you did), then they dry out and shrink too quickly and that's why they crack. When people say to let ceramics dry slowly, they mean REAL slow, like 2-4 days of slowly letting it dry out.
Can you make paper from a tree?
Gamemaster k
Maybe, but I can definitely make a tree from paper
If you would like to see that video you should go to another UA-cam channel named "How to Make Everything". He has already done this and made a very interesting video
When he make it write in that paper save trees
If you put food coloring in water and then put it in the distiller you used in a previous video and would the food coloring evaporate with it and land in the top or would it stay behind
Distillation will remove food coloring.
Make a brick wall
yea!
Is Donald Trump going to build that wall
Help Donald Trump build a wall
captainrobots nope
and make his neighbors pay for it
You didn’t slip and score
That BBQ is 🔥!
Thanks me and my little sister are learning to make and use clay in school and that will help a whole lot
Can you make a silicone mold for the link sword from a previous video and cast some polyeurethane swords as gifts or maybe cast chocolate into it
That's a sweet idea!
I aggree
Exodarion you got 90 likes on ur other comment!
link sword...
Exodarion l
Could you "wedge" clay in the vacuum tub?
Can you fire clay with the Solar Scorcher?
Some variant on the solar ovens... I like that idea... would definitely get up to temp!!!
No to focussed it would either be uneven or not hot enough.
That Focused beam of light and Heat would turn the water inside the exposed section of clay into steam, its basicaly the same result as you'd get when you put a undamaged Potato into a Microwave at 1000 Watts for 5 Minutes, it explodes (Though on a much smaller scale).
The duke of random has arrived and is here to stay
Build a remote-controlled clay squishing device, put it in a vacuum chamber with a lump of clay, then squish the clay while under vacuum.
Love from India ❤🍻
same here
bob
Right!
Akshay Rajput sab indians tere jaise nhi hote bhai
The Kings of Random another awesome video idea would be if you made a clay turn table for making pottery!!!
You forgot to score the clay before stacking it on itself, That’s probably why they cracked.
I totally agree!
im in a ceramics class currently and thats the first thing you learn and also the wedging the clay isnt just throwing it on the table. so that didnt help either because it wasnt wedged correctly.
and that’s not how you make a coil pot
I was taught to never use a true coil base. You take some clay and after wedging have it rolled to the thickness desired. You don't want a thin base, nor do you want a thick one. The cracks he allowed would've definitely caused trouble as well. We were taught to monitor our pots as they dried, and if cracks began to form we could reinforce it with more clay and slurry.
Having worked a lot with Ceramics myself, it cracked because he made the walls so uneven. If the clay is the right consistency scoring isn't necessary and with that small amount of clay it looked like he wedged it right, as long as he did it for an extended period.
Having watched the video making the clay, I think they left too much silt in it as well, as well as dumped too much clay, so it cracked from that too.
Dang ... You made a bowl ... Will wonders never cease ...
King of random you should see what will happen if you put clay in the vacuum chamber? And you guys are cool.
MAKE A CLAY PAN 😀✌
VIRAL GAMETM I don’t wanna be a pan tho
I made a play button with my clay.
that was fast, you went and bought clay, or found it, worked it, and formed a play button. Then fired it and set it all under 20 minutes? thats insane, you should start a business
Promods where did he make that claim lmao
he just said it minutes after the upload
Promods the king of random made a video a long time ago, how to make clay. Btw I have a ceramics class
Promods there's clay everywhere
Make a dry ice bomb (this time with water inside) and put it in a fire and see if it extinguishes!!
Fin Booms would not even work with water, it would instantly super fog
Hmm a Thermo-Can filled to the brim with Dry Ice and some water (For addtional Prssure) to then putting it into a Fire. I belive the fire will be extigushed by the lack of Oxygen, and possibly the Shockwave of the Exploding Thermo-Can.
Gotta love doing pottery. Also, don't underestimate the power of clay slip.
The Prince of Random
Next Make a pottery wheel!!!!!!!!!!!!!♥♥♥♥ and then the whole set will be completed !!!! XD
Can you use the solar scorcher on clay to see if it will turn to pottery?
Clay: “First you throw me on the table, then you fire me... 😢😢😢 WHY??? What have a done???”
I not a
Who misses the original king of random
Well done a beautiful work 👍, and the most beautiful addition of translation,
What happens if we boil gallium.
gutta anuradha nothing it vaporizes..
It boils.
You get gaseous gallium.
wedge the clay... more like beat up
I wonder if primitive technologys is watching this and is like “lol”
I am actually in the middle of experimenting with clay. I was surprised to see this at the same time!
Hey guys can i use play clay as a plug for fireworks mortar?? Plz help
Can the Solar scorcher fire clay???
Evil Morty probs not, too hot
Do you know how hot kilns get? The problem is that the scorcher focuses the heat. You need an even distribution.
But it would be neat to see :D
Rick and Morty is for below average intelligence people. Have a nice day.
Dan R. Hansen not really i watched rick and morty now my IQ is 300
I miss the deadly electronics projects :(
Yesssssss 😭
You should make your own pottery glaze and use it with your DIY clay!
rainyjacktheepic he should do metal oxides
You mean, once he figures out how to fire his clay without destroying it?
I don't know if it was intentional, but I like that your Tshirt says ignite the fire
Primitive technology makes this look so easy
Do it again please
Yes do it again
yes, maybe with nicer pots
we want the old king
XP gaming yes
YUPS
Nah
email him then
ikrr where is he???
Where in the world has the king of random been?!
Mr. Wonderful he murdered and replaced him
Watch till end
Watch till the end
I just watched that old Clay video yesterday and asked if you could make and fire casting molds! Lol
Also, looking forward for that faithful diamond play button!
Make a soap bubble gun that shoots lots of bubbles! Without having to dip it in soap
Contact Primitive Technology
My point exactly lol!!
i think he actually did. someone asked about his breaking pottery couple days ago on primitive technology's blog and got an answer.
Just go ahead and send him a note attached to a bird.....
When will we see Grants *Big Project?*
THAT WAS LIT!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Living in a place that is pretty much always summer is probably great for doing experiments
I use a clay pot for an oil lamp
Not if it's glazed...
😩
Why are you everywhere?
Just everywhere
a-lpha of Zeldaforme Gaming Smart
put the clay in a vaccum chamber before toasting it!
Edit : I said toasting but i wanted to Say burning it
Paul yeah!
oui oui
top comment
Ah, Toasted Clay. Its like Fresh clay but warm and a bit dry. Now that i think about it, toasting clay is a faster way of drying it (Possibly)
it is too thick for it to work
I love your vids
I'm a ceramicist, and the trick to keeping your clay from cracking is holding it a 200° F for two hours before increasing the temperature. This removes all ambient water. After that, increasing temperature by 300°F per hour is what I do.
ohhh please do more ceramics! I would love to see if you could build a real in ground kiln in the backyard! also i would love to see more "survival prepper" type videos!
I want to see a portable power bank or power station that you could use as a backup battery at home for when the power is out or if you want portable power. station.
a portable power bank is real easy. it is just a chain of batteries linked together with some type of plug at one end.
Not that easy. A proper charging and discharging protection circuit required for lithium-ion batteries.
You should have used the vacuum chamber to pull out any air bubbles in the clay
That wont work i belive, Clay isn't Marchmellows ... or Slime ... or Oobleck by that matter.
Wouldnt work
But we like watching him fail!
It can be done, but not with a standard vacuum pump. He needs to add a pug mill to the vacuum.
The water in the clay would boil, possibly causing more cavities and drying the clay.
What happened to the main guy?
He is sick
carolyn mmitchell really? I thought it was family time off... ?
hey Kings random I think you should revisit this this project with a homemade clay wheel to throw the clay I feel like you'll have better results.
You and the King have a great narrating voice.
Jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way oh whats fun to ride a horse completely made of clay
Conner Schmidt Nice you got a like
Clay: I can’t work for you anymore
Why?
Clay: It’s because I’m fired
Ha nice idea
Mashrafi Rahman haha yes it is a nice idea
I absolutely love this guy
The Clay is lit!!!
As a ceramics major this is very cringey
Giles Hayden as a ceramics major, perhaps you could offer advice to improve rather that just stating the obvious ;-).
I found it painful too. When they made the clay they pored out too much clay and left too much silt, then they built the pots with all the skill of a 3 year old😢
An elitist who offers no other advice. Cool thanks.
Love your vids. Can you put U.S coins in the metal furnace please👍👍👍
Smh he didn’t score and slip he only slipped did this dude even take art class
Scυb Ŧσσ ᑕσσl not even slip used water
CLAY!!! YOU'RE FIRED!!!
I have not tried this method but I have been successful in using a chimney starter and sitting the clay on top I used hardwood lump charcoal and it made the clay glow orange I kept adding more and moving the clay up i did this for about 4 hours and ended up with sintered clay
Nice try
Who are you why are you verified
@PrimativeTechnology
Mix clay and metal
It'd just burn.
i found when i fired clay when i was yonger what i did was get a propane stove that is designed to put a pot on , and a rack for the clay. then i put the clay right ontop f the rack just above the flames, then i put a metal coffee container on top and waited about 20 mins they turned out great
Just a little tip for the coil pot: You should just connect each individual coil to each other by stroking your thumb up and down instead of side to side :D