Eminem Vs Canibus - What Happened?

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  • Eminem and Canibus have had beef in the past that dates all the way back to 1998, today we breakdown the entire history of Eminem Vs Canibus.
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  • @e-hr5314
    @e-hr5314 Рік тому +302

    Canibus is the king of dissing the wrong people at the wrong time.

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel 10 місяців тому

      Canibus just isn't that good as a rapper. His dis tracks suck. Going against Em for his race? Come on now. You've alienated your whole potential white fanbase.
      Leaving Em aside, even if you hate Em, ICP did much better (Nothin But A Bitch Thang). ICP are of course white and paint themselves whiter.

    • @nightofthehunt2236
      @nightofthehunt2236 10 місяців тому +16

      "Nice tat, I'mma borrow that."

    • @Frugal637
      @Frugal637 10 місяців тому +6

      Yeah, he definitely was. He should have waited.

    • @AF-Twice
      @AF-Twice 10 місяців тому +51

      He is a professional bridge burner.
      He's one of the greatest lyricists there ever was though.

    • @arandajose20
      @arandajose20 10 місяців тому +14

      I think the dude was an oddball. He probably rubbed people the wrong way without even knowing.

  • @druskeymercadel8955
    @druskeymercadel8955 Рік тому +94

    Out of all battles, canibus gave EMINEM one epic battle

    • @Frugal637
      @Frugal637 10 місяців тому +8

      Not many people respond to Eminem

    • @olgierdolo5510
      @olgierdolo5510 2 місяці тому +11

      That's the truth. Honestly, Em did not battle many worthy, serious opponents on wax, but Canibus was definitely one of them dudes.

    • @royjonesjr9377
      @royjonesjr9377 Місяць тому +2

      @@Frugal637 Mc Juice

    • @Sixtysevencatz
      @Sixtysevencatz 24 дні тому

      Him and Cage both

  • @Csternsful
    @Csternsful Рік тому +520

    you left out something key, canibus wasnt just mad that LL made him change his verse, he was mad LL made him change his BUT LL didn't changed his verse, which was written in response to canibus' original 4321 verse, Therefore making canibus look like he lost a battle within a song, effectively crippling his creditability in a sport where street cred makes or breaks your career.

    • @quavehiphop9152
      @quavehiphop9152 Рік тому +33

      I was just about to mention that

    • @Csternsful
      @Csternsful Рік тому +26

      @@DeanGaffer dayum son then canibus sure got the shitty end of that stick lol jack the ripper cut deep

    • @DragonBall92293
      @DragonBall92293 Рік тому +6

      @@DeanGaffer It wasn’t staged. LL wanted him to jet everything slide, but he didn’t.

    • @spiridonrobert16
      @spiridonrobert16 Рік тому +6

      ​@@DragonBall92293 ye ,it wasn t after that phone call when ll told him to not do smth or diss him canibus released second round ko

    • @bombay3201
      @bombay3201 Рік тому +1

      LL verse was garbage 🗑️ and master p was ass

  • @manis1551
    @manis1551 Рік тому +349

    Canibus admitted in his recent interview on Math Hoffa podcast that he was wrong for starting his beef with Eminem and ruining his opportunity in collaborating with Em. During the podcast he pretty much confirmed Em's story on how the beef started. Canibus did seemed willing to fully squash his beef with Em during the interview

    • @Time4SumAksion021
      @Time4SumAksion021 Рік тому +22

      Stanibus 😂

    • @byrondavies9221
      @byrondavies9221 Рік тому +27

      He also confirmed Stan was directed at him in the Math Hoffa interview.

    • @elliothammer9485
      @elliothammer9485 Рік тому +8

      ​@@byrondavies9221 he can't be sure of that

    • @thedevilsrockstxr2309
      @thedevilsrockstxr2309 Рік тому +7

      ​@@byrondavies9221he can't confirm tht tf

    • @spiridonrobert16
      @spiridonrobert16 Рік тому

      @@elliothammer9485 ye,he thought that and he still believes to this day that doesn t mean confirmed

  • @jg5004
    @jg5004 Рік тому +68

    The good ol days when someone would diss someone else on their albums.

    • @Jaxe9638
      @Jaxe9638 2 місяці тому +4

      Well this aged terribly 💀

    • @olgierdolo5510
      @olgierdolo5510 2 місяці тому +1

      And done it lyrically, with class, also

  • @cdr_902
    @cdr_902 11 місяців тому +92

    Canibus was by far the best MC em ever beefed with... the ja, benzino, everlast, limp bizkit stuff was just for fun....

    • @Aightbet-ng2si
      @Aightbet-ng2si 4 місяці тому +2

      Been sayin that

    • @OlOlOIIO
      @OlOlOIIO 4 місяці тому +5

      Gun to their head--Who know A Canibus song?
      I'm 32, Canibitch was why I even knew this dude's name.

    • @Escorpio123PS
      @Escorpio123PS 3 місяці тому

      And till this day, Idk who Cannibus was.

    • @duckskin3220
      @duckskin3220 3 місяці тому

      @@OlOlOIIO gotchu. 100 bars, 2000 b.c., genabis, levitibus, m-sea cresy, spartibus, no return, indisible, cemantics, psych evaluations, poet laureate 1, 2 and infinity, lost at c, second round ko, illfinity, one step closer to infinity, master builder, buckingham palace, how we roll, dr c phd, master thesis, curriculum 101, drama a/t, lyrical noir, only slaves D.R.E.A.M, the dragon of judah, dead by design, phuk u, the c-quel, doomsday news, die slow, cenoir studies 02, melatonin magik, patriots, and theres more that I cant think of this is just off the top of my head. might be biased tho since im a huge canibus fan.
      edit: just checked my playlist to see what I missed and heres a couple more: liberal arts, cptn cold crush, golden terra of rap, channel zero, "c" section, mic-nificent, get retarded, u didnt' care, showtime at the gallow, and theres more but I tihnk u get the point.

    • @linussommersel4272
      @linussommersel4272 2 місяці тому +10

      @@Escorpio123PS says more about you than him. Real heads know canibus

  • @williamnye1692
    @williamnye1692 Рік тому +57

    Oh yeah, you also forgot to mention Airstrike by Canibus, where he got D12 to record verses on the song then made his verse a diss at Em. But again, you did a lot of research and the video was still great.

    • @iloveketchup20
      @iloveketchup20 Рік тому +1

      First thing that came to mind after I finished this video lol

    • @SpookySkareflow
      @SpookySkareflow Рік тому +12

      actually that was a DZK song that was to feature D12 but they switched it up afterwards on D12 to make it seem like D12 was dissing Eminem as well. I think that was when Canibus was working on his album at the time. They did the whole bait and switch on D12 at the time.

  • @__rb4l
    @__rb4l 10 місяців тому +51

    “Smothered in tarantulas” 😂😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @johnwebb2442
    @johnwebb2442 Рік тому +55

    Classic beef. I love both Eminem and Canibus.

    • @craigfisherman2880
      @craigfisherman2880 Рік тому +2

      I’ve never heard anyone say the like Canibus

    • @AyoSaint
      @AyoSaint Рік тому +11

      @@craigfisherman2880 stop being a follower

    • @TheDuke4100
      @TheDuke4100 11 місяців тому +8

      @@craigfisherman2880 You should probably get out more

    • @paulkendrick4153
      @paulkendrick4153 2 місяці тому +1

      @@craigfisherman2880 that’s because you listen to garbage music with people that also listen to garbage music

  • @warrenellis1023
    @warrenellis1023 Рік тому +41

    Way to leave out the actual reason canibus made second round knock out. It was because LL made canibus change the “mic on your arm” verse and then dissed him directly on his verse

  • @guslopez6954
    @guslopez6954 Рік тому +36

    Em impersonating/rapping like Canibus must've been so fun for him

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 7 місяців тому +6

      Yea, especially when you’re a fan. He obviously was a fan, which he’s said. Royce said “all Em & me use to listen to was Canibus”

  • @Godsavethecrumpets
    @Godsavethecrumpets 3 місяці тому +11

    "i found out where cani-i-bus money went, i borrowed a dollar from wyclef" lmao.

  • @Asteroidpine
    @Asteroidpine Рік тому +87

    I'm surprised you left a key part out of this, Cannibus had D12 diss Em in 2009 without them even knowing on "Air Strike (Pop Killer)"

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 7 місяців тому +29

      He missed alot, & screwed up some events. I need to start making videos to correct this type of crap

    • @tyneelilg
      @tyneelilg 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Ishbikesseriously please do so I will support

    • @BridgetGX
      @BridgetGX 3 місяці тому +4

      DZK was even involved, I remember him from his SoundClick page in the 2000s

    • @seyioyetade
      @seyioyetade Місяць тому

      ​@@Ishbikesdid U make the correction video?

  • @ASteelWheel
    @ASteelWheel Рік тому +23

    Gotta give it to Canibus: he went at LL & Eminem and although his mainstream career never took off, props to him for going against the greats.

    • @thedevilsrockstxr2309
      @thedevilsrockstxr2309 Рік тому +10

      U don't get points for running into a brick wall....not once but twice

    • @ASteelWheel
      @ASteelWheel Рік тому

      @@thedevilsrockstxr2309 I guess so. And it's too bad.

    • @Arsonop
      @Arsonop 9 місяців тому +15

      and lyrically Canibus won both battles. In the war of public opinion and sales he lost...but pound for pound...Canibus won. It was the same for Cage as well.

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 7 місяців тому +11

      He didn’t lose the battles. He lost the wars due to the industry! If Canibus had the the industry behind him, he’d smoke boots!

    • @olgierdolo5510
      @olgierdolo5510 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@thedevilsrockstxr2309F**k the brick wall, what u talkin about? He showed balls and stood up against two rappers in favourable mainstream positions. He handled them lyrically too. When you look past the popularity contest/industry machine, you realise this.

  • @zachprows2691
    @zachprows2691 Рік тому +103

    U missed the fact LL dissed canibus in 4321 after the verse change

    • @Twi66e
      @Twi66e Рік тому +31

      Such a weak move from LL

    • @joeld7926
      @joeld7926 Рік тому +16

      He dissed him n told can that nobody would know he dissing him

    • @jdrobinson3468
      @jdrobinson3468 Рік тому +14

      Good comment and it was so weird to me that LL Cool J did that.

    • @spiridonrobert16
      @spiridonrobert16 Рік тому

      well this video was more about the em vs canibus thing so maybe that s why he didn t got more into that thing seems logical

    • @spiridonrobert16
      @spiridonrobert16 Рік тому

      @@jdrobinson3468 his ego got the best out of him probably,it happens

  • @KillahkiddRPCrecords
    @KillahkiddRPCrecords 10 місяців тому +21

    Damn bro you left out the song where canibus tricked D12 into doing a Collab that he dissed Eminem on lol that’s the funniest part of the beef

  • @curtlamar5046
    @curtlamar5046 Рік тому +46

    Lmaooooooooo Em sounding like Canibus 😅

    • @osasjoy1468
      @osasjoy1468 Рік тому +11

      That shit was hilarious 😂 em is savage bruh

    • @antonkomarov9025
      @antonkomarov9025 9 місяців тому +3

      Lmao yo B get to know me first

    • @olgierdolo5510
      @olgierdolo5510 2 місяці тому +2

      That was funny but Em could never come close to Canibus style and level of lyricism

    • @raydanaj4043
      @raydanaj4043 2 місяці тому +2

      @@olgierdolo5510you ain’t serious 😂😂😂😂

    • @KV____
      @KV____ 2 місяці тому

      @@olgierdolo5510lmfaoooo you’re hilarious 🤡😂

  • @keenanryan8735
    @keenanryan8735 3 місяці тому +15

    People who dont know Canibus, arent real hop hop heads…

    • @pharaohavalon8566
      @pharaohavalon8566 Місяць тому

      Or aren’t old enough, tf😂

    • @keenanryan8735
      @keenanryan8735 Місяць тому +3

      @@pharaohavalon8566 people know the greats if they are really into the craft…. Everyone still knows Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, Sugar Ray, etc. if they are into boxing right? Same concept…

    • @psychic-friend-toy-freddy
      @psychic-friend-toy-freddy Місяць тому

      I knew canibus because of that one line from Second round KO. "But you ain't got the skills to eat a ni🅱️🅱️as ass like me"

  • @garyscott4104
    @garyscott4104 Рік тому +157

    Canibus has said many,many words in his verses that til this day has never been said by any rappers. That alone shows his greatness, intelligence and originality.

    • @gregoryg1303
      @gregoryg1303 Рік тому +22

      Canibus is one of the best he up there with big pun king los said that he is his favorite rapper

    • @manikn4585
      @manikn4585 Рік тому +19

      @@gregoryg1303 he is wayyy above them
      Just listen to poet laureate 2

    • @thedevilsrockstxr2309
      @thedevilsrockstxr2309 Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂😂takes more than raw talent

    • @thedevilsrockstxr2309
      @thedevilsrockstxr2309 Рік тому

      Yet he has to be one of dumbest people ever....ur in a position to blow and he on some straight bullshit, u acting weird towards Em over some weird ass feeling over him saying he ain't write a verse....everything after tht is just being weird and emotional

    • @HanginAndBanginBrother
      @HanginAndBanginBrother Рік тому +24

      Grabbing a thesaurus and saying words nobody else says doesnt mean shit if you're still saying nothing

  • @manikn4585
    @manikn4585 Рік тому +63

    A few lines from Poet Laureate 2 by Canibus:-
    A wise man sees failure as progress
    A fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic
    And loses his soul in the process
    Obsessed with nonsense with a caricature that has no content
    My style is masterful, multilateral
    I could battle a fool and be naturally cruel
    Words of scorn are a disastrous tool
    From an existentialist's view I'm a better rapper than you
    Grab the mic and rip your physical fabric in two
    My attitude is fucked up but admirable
    Engrave my back with the emperor's stamp
    Been spitting scientific rap since the 17th century began
    Trying to escape the wicked empire of Def Jam
    And the land where lyrics are bland and heretics hang
    Every warrior has an axe to bury
    But he has to learn to discern between enemy and adversary
    I said to myself, "Germaine, this is insane
    It's suicide, it's controlled flight into terrain"
    I fought to regain control of the plane, but went up in a ball of flames
    And got banned from the Hip-Hop hall of fame
    For two bars I kept hearing in my head
    Over and over again, it cost me everything
    I'm convinced now that more than the truth is at stake
    Where people create language that pretends to communicate
    Euphemisms are misunderstood as mistakes
    But its a byproduct of the ghetto music we make
    From an extroverted point of view I think its too late
    Hip Hop has never been the same since '88
    Since it became a lucrative profession
    There's a misconception that a movement in any direction is progression
    Even though the potency of it lessens
    Big money industries writing checks to suppress the question

    • @SOLDIERSOFCHRISTCWO
      @SOLDIERSOFCHRISTCWO Рік тому +4

      That's mass murda

    • @thedevilsrockstxr2309
      @thedevilsrockstxr2309 Рік тому +3

      Thts cool he still lost

    • @manikn4585
      @manikn4585 Рік тому +31

      @@thedevilsrockstxr2309 won lyrically
      Lost the popularity contest though

    • @andrewsmith5132
      @andrewsmith5132 Рік тому +3

      @@manikn4585 Lyrically maybe..? but he still wasn’t saying anything, how is any of that a diss to Em? Jottin down words from the thesaurus with no real disses doesn’t win you a battle, no one said Canibus couldn’t rap, but in no way did he beat Eminem.

    • @morm2173
      @morm2173 Рік тому +3

      One of my favorite canibus songs

  • @yvngsemanic
    @yvngsemanic 10 місяців тому +29

    The only thing I've got to say about this beef is, that it's so unfortunate that it actually happened. These two beats should've made songs together, they'd lit up the scene fr

  • @camronshean1758
    @camronshean1758 Рік тому +33

    Dr. Dre wanted the beat from Canibus song How We Roll, from his first album, for Eminem. DJ Clark Kent who produced the song said “So I go to the studio and set up my session for Shaq. Then I go next door to say what up to Dre, and he’s like, ‘You got some shit? I’m gonna be working with this white boy.’ And the white boy he was talking about was Eminem. This is before anyone knew who Em was. So play him some beats, and he hears the beat for How We Roll, and he loves it. He’s playing it on repeat, and says he wants it. But I was like, ‘Nah, that’s for Canibus.’ And Dre’s like, ‘Oh yeah, Canibus is ill.’ He probably knew him from the 4,3,2,1 record with LL. But imagine if I gave that shit to Eminem. That shit would’ve been crazy.”

    • @rhymezgalore
      @rhymezgalore Рік тому +8

      How we roll is such A sick track

    • @travishenderson9635
      @travishenderson9635 Рік тому

      I just relistened to that instrumental amd yeah Em would've slid on that beat in that era

    • @olgierdolo5510
      @olgierdolo5510 2 місяці тому

      Never heard of that, some interesting trivia.
      "How We Roll" is good, one of the best tracks on his debut album.

  • @sagacitybeatsllc
    @sagacitybeatsllc 3 місяці тому +5

    Em can’t see Bus lyrically. BUT that doesn’t take anything away from Em, because NOBODY can see Bus lyrically.

    • @Smouse168
      @Smouse168 Місяць тому

      The fuck? lol

    • @sagacitybeatsllc
      @sagacitybeatsllc Місяць тому

      @@Smouse168 Have we contradicted your opinion? 🤔

    • @Smouse168
      @Smouse168 Місяць тому

      @@sagacitybeatsllc your statement was less of an opinion and more of a definitive crowning of Canibus as the best lyricist. Which is comical. Is he good? Of course he is but come on brotha . Everyone knows Em is the Rap god anyway…

    • @sagacitybeatsllc
      @sagacitybeatsllc Місяць тому +1

      @@Smouse168 And that’s your opinion. There are no definitive facts about opinions. Again, no one can touch Bus! Not even, the so-called, “ Rap God”. Not even close. My opinion.

    • @Smouse168
      @Smouse168 Місяць тому

      @@sagacitybeatsllc ok now you’re back tracking and throwing “my opinion”. Up there you were crowning the canibus the Rap goat.

  • @Clint_tha_great
    @Clint_tha_great Рік тому +18

    What messed canibus up is his beat selection.. them joints were weak af for the most part

    • @PhilRewa
      @PhilRewa Рік тому +2

      Great point

    • @impulse_xs
      @impulse_xs Рік тому +4

      For real. Worst beak picker in history. It’s a shame.

    • @omills22
      @omills22 11 місяців тому +3

      They’re so cringe.. I tried finding some classic songs and was like damn

    • @HaruWuu
      @HaruWuu 6 місяців тому

      Same

    • @paulkendrick4153
      @paulkendrick4153 2 місяці тому

      @@impulse_xs your opinion is trash. They were great

  • @GattoriSancho
    @GattoriSancho 10 місяців тому +13

    I know Cannibus wishes he had a time machine.

  • @billykilpatrick9251
    @billykilpatrick9251 Рік тому +24

    Yeah u got to do more Em beefs this fire

    • @ashtagbeats
      @ashtagbeats Рік тому +9

      Good vid but tbh everyone knows Em’s beefs and they’ve been talked about a million times.
      Looking forward to hopefully some more under the radar situations.

    • @tyresefisher3921
      @tyresefisher3921 Рік тому +1

      ​@@ashtagbeats eminem only beefs with popstars or garbage ass rappers

  • @DaWizeDeciple
    @DaWizeDeciple 7 місяців тому +10

    Em did not want it with Canibus for real. Waited til he went into the military to leak his unreleased track. He never went at bis like he went at everyone else...

    • @rjporter1245
      @rjporter1245 3 місяці тому +3

      Agreed. I've held for nearly two decades that, of the two, Bis is clearly the more cerebral and technically adroit lyricist.

    • @Ubercentraltf2
      @Ubercentraltf2 Місяць тому +2

      There were multiple tracks leaked. They were all supposed to be on encore. And Encore was received poorly because Eminem hadn’t sufficiently replaced the leaked tracks. He rushed them out. And 2 of the leaked tracks ended up as bonus tracks. Encore released in 2004, which is around the time Canibus got back. So the diss was actually supposed to release in 2004.

    • @sheizu
      @sheizu 2 дні тому

      I doubt Em cared if Canibus was away or not. Canibus took it more serious while Em was just playing with him.

  • @kaycuz9402
    @kaycuz9402 8 місяців тому +5

    Canibus had the worst album art. Truly terrible

    • @theripper1777
      @theripper1777 7 місяців тому +3

      I mean his cover art for Lyrical Law is pretty sick

  • @ActorsReal2Reel
    @ActorsReal2Reel Рік тому +32

    One part you left out was when Canibus changed his verse, so did LL on 4,3,2,1 and Cool Jay was dissing Canibus on the song saying you don’t wanna burrow that, you want to idolize and said some bars at him subliminal.

    • @JohnAnthonyHD
      @JohnAnthonyHD  Рік тому +13

      Left that part out because I didn't wanna get off the Eminem Vs Canibus topic

    • @Javis_the_savage
      @Javis_the_savage Рік тому +22

      @@JohnAnthonyHD then why speak on the LL Canibus beef at all? If you were gonna speak on it you have an obligation to include all of the facts

    • @nicholaskoukounas4639
      @nicholaskoukounas4639 Рік тому +4

      @@Javis_the_savage why u mad?

    • @Javis_the_savage
      @Javis_the_savage Рік тому +22

      @@nicholaskoukounas4639 dumb reply

    • @Reese91momo
      @Reese91momo Рік тому +20

      @@nicholaskoukounas4639no he’s right if you’re going to tell the story tell it right

  • @antarbenson9328
    @antarbenson9328 Рік тому +8

    🗣"Raw to the floor, raw like Reservoir Dogs. Bite another line from Redman song."

  • @SloppyToffee
    @SloppyToffee 10 місяців тому +5

    The Obie trice mixtape where he says “I hope he gets covered and smothered in tarantulas” always had me laughing my ass off. It’s so accurate to how Canibus spits 😂

  • @grumblekin
    @grumblekin 2 місяці тому +4

    Em is just a white Redman.
    Canibus was never a copy, remains original, and never sold out or gave into the corny games and backroom deal stuff Jay-Z and Puffy were trying to get everyone into.

    • @splashbertothaballer2583
      @splashbertothaballer2583 Місяць тому +2

      Eminem is Eminem bro a lot of rappers inspired him on his journey same with canibus yall stay against em to this day 🤣🤣🤣

    • @splashbertothaballer2583
      @splashbertothaballer2583 Місяць тому

      That’s fine cuz at the end of the day em stayed successful I never heard from canibus ever since his rap battle with dizaster

  • @dleesr28
    @dleesr28 10 місяців тому +10

    Is anybody else completely shocked that Canibus dropped that many albums

  • @psychobeefsticker
    @psychobeefsticker 3 місяці тому +3

    Benzinos face LOOKS LIKE A MASK THAT'S TOO BIG FOR SOMEBODYS HEAD!! the FACE FLAPS are all flopping around , jaw wont quite fit but hey IT'S AN EXPENSIVE MASK so what can u do? 😂😂😂😂

  • @benwalters6390
    @benwalters6390 2 місяці тому +3

    Did you really just ask who is better ? Eminem or canibus? That’s crazy ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE! I shouldn’t have to say it either but if you don’t know EMINEM is 1000x better , canibus is nowhere near his level

  • @xaynizn6394
    @xaynizn6394 Рік тому +7

    nah that em skit was hilarious lmao

  • @MickeyMea
    @MickeyMea 2 місяці тому +2

    Forgot to mention the bis battle vs dizaster & Em mentioning it on rap god

  • @woodmillz9892
    @woodmillz9892 10 місяців тому +3

    Damn you bought the CD just to show up the easter egg. Ive been bingeing your video's but that made me sub.

  • @danielnelson3136
    @danielnelson3136 7 місяців тому +3

    What you specifically left out in that Cannibus(also his name is Cassidy) versus LL Cool J rap beef, is that LL Cool J contacted DMX and Cassidy for his album as he wanted newer rap artists to be featured. Both Cassidy and Cool talked, and Cassidy liked his microphone arm but Cool thought he disrespected him. After LL Cool J asked Cassidy to change his lyrics, Cassidy asked back to for him to also change some of his verse that Cassidy heard as subliminal shots at Cassidy himself. They both talked over the phone, and LL Cool J repeatedly kept telling Cassidy he'll do it, it's be cool, and repeatedly told him not to drop a diss. So when LL Cool J invited DMX, other rappers, he did not invite Cassidy over, and he also didn't changed his lyrics that gave subliminal shots to Cassidy, and word circulated in the hip hop culture that LL Cool J disrespected Cassidy and Cassidy's a punk, so really Cassidy felt so disrespected and his reputation as an upcoming lyricist on the line he had to make a diss track against LL Cool J.
    We'll never know the specifics between Cassidy and Eminem's rap beef, we know enough that Eminem looked up to LL Cool J and likely bite some of his rap style for himself, which resulted in both artist's styles being very similar, which may have led to Cassidy thinking Eminem ghost written for LL Cool J as it's quite lyrical a bit. And Cassidy had every reason to be suspicious because in Hip Hop culture, when it comes to rap battles and diss tracks, THE RAPPER DISSING WRITES HIS/HER OWN LYRICS! NO GHOST WRITERS INVOLVED! That was the 1 rule every has to abide by, and if you broke it or tried to bend it, you'll mostly be seen as a clown and fake Emcee and fake soft rapper. I generally don't mind ghost writers in other art media and even in music genres, but in particular with diss tracks you have to wirte your own bars and spit at the person who crossed you!

  • @Fatelone
    @Fatelone 11 місяців тому +10

    CanIbus 1st album was dope as fuck. if you say otherwise you're just a puppet

    • @xdaantihero
      @xdaantihero 3 місяці тому

      I agree

    • @olgierdolo5510
      @olgierdolo5510 2 місяці тому

      I mean, it was good, yea. However, his later albums were significantly better.

  • @49erTone
    @49erTone Рік тому +23

    I know fans usually pick sides man but I grew up on both and as Bis is my number 1 favorite , Em in my top 3 favorites . I always wanted them to communicate and squash it so we could’ve gotten some collabs instead of what we got . The biggest what if in hip hop if you asked me . Shout out to both

    • @youknow2849
      @youknow2849 Рік тому +2

      Which begs the question who's ur number 2

    • @TurboV8boi
      @TurboV8boi Місяць тому +1

      Honestly I think this would have been the best outcome. They are both skilled. I bet some communication and empathy could have given us some good music.

  • @ratedrenigma
    @ratedrenigma Рік тому +30

    You missed few points
    Canibus has an unreleased Eminem Diss named "damage control"
    Canibus replied to a fan saying "f Eminem". Saying he isn't interested in beefing with Em anymore and wants to concentrate on himself this was in 2008
    In 2010 canibus was angry Eminem dissed mariah so he tricked d12 onto a diss track called Air Strike pop killer
    There was no direct response from Eminem but royce respond to it on a track called no coming back from that
    On the song cinderella man it seems like he's respond to canibus on the last verse but this hasn't been confirmed
    Canibus disses Eminem in the battle with dizaster so Eminem responded on rap god
    Canibus responds on battle buddies for life with a shot at em at the very end

  • @sierraedmonds6644
    @sierraedmonds6644 Рік тому +3

    Fuck yea,I just found this channel last week benge watch the whole channel n was wait on new vid,love the narratoring , production, quality, everything 🔥💁✌️🖱️

  • @enigma7310
    @enigma7310 3 місяці тому +2

    *"It's not like I'm not black...."* 😂😂😂

  • @AF-Twice
    @AF-Twice 10 місяців тому +4

    You did great research. I was loosely following this drama from it's inception in the late 90s to present, but you divulged a lot of information I was unaware of.. Salute.

  • @absolutexk
    @absolutexk Рік тому +6

    Canibus lost badly against Dizaster. Eminem likely would have embarrassed Canibus in a real battle.

    • @falmohammed3268
      @falmohammed3268 10 місяців тому

      This is just pure out dumb. Did you realize that Canibus forgot what he wrote and he had to pull out the notepad? Plus Canibus was already loosing his touch

  • @jmpw005
    @jmpw005 Рік тому +12

    The only Em and Bus cypher/battle occurred prior to Em's 1st album dropping. It was on Hot 97. Initially it included Nore and DMX, but they eventually dropped out Em and Bus kept going even after the music was stopped. It was epic.

    • @TheDuke4100
      @TheDuke4100 11 місяців тому

      where can this be heard?

    • @jmpw005
      @jmpw005 11 місяців тому

      @@TheDuke4100 IHDK. I heard it when it originally aired and once on cassette.

    • @AsceBlayze
      @AsceBlayze 6 місяців тому

      @@TheDuke4100it will surface one random day in a few years

  • @__rb4l
    @__rb4l 10 місяців тому +3

    “Before metaphors were reservoir dogs, before Christ was hung on the cross” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 7 місяців тому

      He bit Canibus flow from “beast from the east” one of the best verses of all time. There’s no way Eminem would know about all that if he wasn’t a fan. Which is was, Royce admitted that

  • @consolas2514
    @consolas2514 10 місяців тому +54

    Honestly, bar for bar, track for track, Canibus bodied Em, people just didnt listen to it

    • @damousx6860
      @damousx6860 8 місяців тому +12

      It was okay, but he definitely didn’t body him. Just a select few think that, if anything ICP gave em a better beef

    • @DaWizeDeciple
      @DaWizeDeciple 7 місяців тому +6

      Thank you! Too many stans out there...

    • @jeromemgoma3218
      @jeromemgoma3218 6 місяців тому +9

      Stop it...just lik ppl listen2Em's bars they to was listening to Can's.Em washed him every time...let's call a fair assessment not making up our own stories.

    • @spiridonrobert16
      @spiridonrobert16 6 місяців тому +5

      :))))not at all,canibus took it too seriously while em was maing fun of trollig ,,canibus himself said sorry and admitted he was in the wrong on this one,also em is one of the reasons this dude didn t make it

    • @consolas2514
      @consolas2514 6 місяців тому +5

      @spiridonrobert16 if you know the background of canibus, who he is and how he came up in Hip-Hop, that really is just his natural response. It's thought that looking back in hindsight he's some form of neurodivergent, especially with how muchof a prodigy he was with tech (he used to do data management for the government and coded his own website in the 90s, something very few people could do back then) and also being able to rhyme like an animal. It's thought that his experience with wyclef, as well as not naturally fitting in to these aggressive environments, left him with his harsh response to things, you can't really blame him for smth like that yk?

  • @trollface391
    @trollface391 7 місяців тому +4

    You missed a savage Diss track by canibus called "Air strike" where he really really murdered Eminem on that track...Eminem couldn't even respond to that track it was so brutal 😂😂

  • @EWUFBIiswatching
    @EWUFBIiswatching Рік тому +5

    Bro. You’re not gonna talk about Air Strike Pop Killer…”Right now you got big rotten Rosenberg beside you, tryin to be just like your father…inside you…”

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 7 місяців тому +1

      He missed a lot of stuff!

  • @Jordan23-G.O.A.T.
    @Jordan23-G.O.A.T. Рік тому +6

    You got it wrong buddy about the Cannabis and LL Cool J situation. It was actually LL Cool J who dissed Canibus first. After LL Cool J told Cannabis to change his lyrics on the song, Cannabis went ahead and did that, but LL Cool J proceeded to diss him on the same song. In response to this Cannabis dropped second-round knockout dissin LL Cool J

  • @WhoCaresAnymoreTho
    @WhoCaresAnymoreTho Рік тому +8

    Canibus defo the better rapper

  • @Anomaliayt
    @Anomaliayt 11 місяців тому +2

    Yo, thanks for the well researched and put together vid !

  • @tripelogdarkness
    @tripelogdarkness Рік тому +6

    This was absolute 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @MUGTOWN4LIFE
    @MUGTOWN4LIFE 3 місяці тому +1

    1:16
    Yeah they call me rabbit
    This is a turtle race

  • @hunterrandy
    @hunterrandy 2 місяці тому +1

    are you going to cover the everlast beef

  • @isaacramirez8154
    @isaacramirez8154 Рік тому +15

    Actually ll dissed canibus on da 4 3 2 1 track after he told canibus to take his verse of den canibus called ll and talked to him bout da situation and wanted to make another record wit him but it took to long I think and ppl started noticing it was a diss and was askin why canibus won’t respond is he scared when obviously canibus ain’t got a reason to be scared if u heard second round ko

  • @Virru112
    @Virru112 11 місяців тому +3

    More accurately, Canibus didn't like that LL asked him to change his verse, but then proceeded to keep his own verse dissing Canibus on the track..

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 7 місяців тому

      He got alot wrong in this, that’s why I stopped coming to this channel. What if I didn’t know the real facts? Smh

    • @darkdante9
      @darkdante9 5 місяців тому

      Canibus was dissing LL on that track as well.

  • @SoulSeeker20
    @SoulSeeker20 Рік тому +4

    A little more context would be nice. It wasn't just because he asked Canibus to remove the song, but because LL Cool J also left his own verse dissing Canibus over the reference on the released version, which Canibus made the diss over.

  • @MikeyDunksMusic
    @MikeyDunksMusic 8 місяців тому +8

    Cannibus is one of the greatest lyricists ever. His Eminem disses are underrated asf. Ppl just conclude that Em beat Canibus because of popularity and how their careers turned out. Diss record for diss record, Canibus is the master. Ppl don't give Canibus enough credit.

  • @jonathanflores3038
    @jonathanflores3038 Рік тому +2

    I'm subscribing bro... Keep up the good work

  • @blockedpython2456
    @blockedpython2456 10 місяців тому +3

    “I used to be a man of the people,
    Hit the clubs and mingle,
    Used to dream one day I’d be fucking pink,
    Like a flamingo,
    But that was back when I smoked cannibus,
    Man o man it hurt cause I was a fan of his”
    Eminem dug out his corpse and put it back promptly

  • @OneEvilPlatypus
    @OneEvilPlatypus Рік тому +18

    Surprised you didn't mention Bis' battle with Dizaster. For all this talk about Canabis being a battle rapper and wanting to battle Em, is there any footage of Bis actually smokin' people in battles? Did he ever even did battle rap like that? I only saw that one and that was not a good look for Bis at all.
    We know Em did battles, there's plenty of footage of him from back in those days. Everybody knows that's where he came from, 8 mile is not all fiction. So I don't think a battle between them would be interesting at all, I think it would be a massacre similar to Bis vs Diz, even if Bis didn't choke. His disses were weak, he can't go off the dome, the whole Stan thing is pathetic, and this beef never really felt serious.
    It definitely didn't seem like Em was ever taking it seriously, seemed like he was just having fun taking random shots at a dude who kept pestering him trying to get attention. Bis never made it big in the industry, but if Em never mentioned him on his albums his career would have very likely died a lot sooner.
    You also didn't mention Bis' recent interview with Math Hoffa where he basically admitted he only dissed Em because he was angry at how his career was going and "just wanted a hug". At least he finally matured enough to admit it.

    • @michaelloughery6100
      @michaelloughery6100 Рік тому +1

      The dizaster/canibus battle def should of been mentioned along w the subliminal towards canibus from rap god.
      “Rappers are having a tough time period, here’s a maxi pad. Actually it’s dizaster-ly bad”

  • @Ritomakesvidz
    @Ritomakesvidz 2 місяці тому +1

    Then canibus ended his own career when he lost the rap battle with dizaster

  • @cryptoniteblack7563
    @cryptoniteblack7563 11 місяців тому +11

    Lyrically Canibus won but commercially M&M was a more popular rapper so he won by default...

    • @Theashyman
      @Theashyman 8 місяців тому

      Bru 'the ballad' disproves that entirely 💀 that diss was so fucking ass. Em destroyed him with canibitch. Em is just the better rapper lyrically

  • @cjaypaz9842
    @cjaypaz9842 Місяць тому +1

    Eminem imitating Canibus is hilarious

  • @kiwanas1430
    @kiwanas1430 Рік тому +18

    I’d say Canibus is a bit more coherent but Em is more off the wall lyrically. Both excellent in their own respects, I was a big Canibus fan but do agree that this beef was pointless. A stick fingers, Eminem, Canibus song would’ve been absolutely legendary. Even Canibus on the ‘Em and Sticky Fingaz song would’ve been nuts

  • @PeteNalty63
    @PeteNalty63 7 місяців тому +1

    At least Canibus was a worthy opponent.

  • @EyeCue23
    @EyeCue23 Рік тому +3

    Damn this the first time you said something i never knew…. That was dope canibus put that crossword puzzle on the disc 💿 that was clever

  • @deezihogan8675
    @deezihogan8675 Рік тому +2

    A video about Eminem and Canibus BUT all the comments are about LL and Canibus? Is nobody watching?

  • @handsomeblack5234
    @handsomeblack5234 15 днів тому

    For Em to mention Bus that many times when Em had the much better career shows that deep down he really respected his skills.

  • @morm2173
    @morm2173 Рік тому +3

    Canibus is one of my favorite like old high eminem

  • @michaelbarnes2126
    @michaelbarnes2126 10 місяців тому +2

    Damn they still gotta have some animosity towards each other 😂

  • @justlift4031
    @justlift4031 Рік тому +6

    Can can't touch em..

  • @helco2856
    @helco2856 6 місяців тому

    Goes without saying, never meet your idols. You'll most likely end up being disappointed. You hear stories like this all the time

  • @marklayne1781
    @marklayne1781 Рік тому +2

    I'm waiting for Eminem to try and battle KRS-ONE.

  • @shawngilmore3628
    @shawngilmore3628 9 місяців тому +2

    So en actually start the beef!!!

  • @bluex610
    @bluex610 11 місяців тому +3

    Bro was clapping cheeks at a brothel when he first heard Stan 😅

  • @bruiserb8116
    @bruiserb8116 11 місяців тому +2

    Ll s ego got in the way cuz that was not disrespectful he was basically giving props and showing his creativity

  • @nahumrivasbermudez338
    @nahumrivasbermudez338 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video

  • @DeathThaGoat
    @DeathThaGoat Рік тому +15

    The most underrated beef in rap history

    • @ALexander-ue3kj
      @ALexander-ue3kj 5 місяців тому

      This beef is very popular, idk what youre talking about

    • @DeathThaGoat
      @DeathThaGoat 5 місяців тому

      @@ALexander-ue3kj look at all the generic top 10 beefs this one ain’t mentioned

  • @popanz25
    @popanz25 11 місяців тому +1

    You missed when canibus put d12 on the air strike track and made it into a diss like his own crew was going against him.

  • @Basheerrko
    @Basheerrko Рік тому +2

    You forgot to mention Canibus air strike diss against Eminem in 2010.

  • @nagidal1374
    @nagidal1374 10 місяців тому +2

    I think Royce dissed em and I think cannibus dissed him on pop killer

  • @nastynaz3376
    @nastynaz3376 Рік тому +3

    Air Strike (Pop Killer) How/why was that left out?

  • @justentaylor8849
    @justentaylor8849 Рік тому +2

    My opinion is that I liked cannibus diss towards LL. A cannibus vs em battle!? That would’ve been lit

  • @freekshow
    @freekshow Рік тому +1

    "I borrowed a dollar from Wyclef"
    Yoooooo

  • @mandalor-8315
    @mandalor-8315 Рік тому +3

    I really wish canibus had a better run in the game he had good flow

  • @valorwarrior7628
    @valorwarrior7628 10 місяців тому +3

    Eminem is still in his hay day and man he's still in his malleability and still in his best days, much more today, other artists even tremble before him.

  • @Mize2dx
    @Mize2dx Рік тому +8

    EM had the whole Interscope/ Universal machine behind him...BIS did not stand a chance as a independent Rapper.....Em cannot write songs like " "SEISMOLUMINESNCE " POET LAUREATE " Dead by Design " The Primary Axiom " Hydra.....Js

    • @jsr6829
      @jsr6829 8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah and canibus can't write biterphobia, stan, sing for the moment, superman, lose yourself, no apologies, till I collapse.

    • @Mize2dx
      @Mize2dx 8 місяців тому +3

      Em is wack my guy....He lost me 20 years ago with that " Slim shady " trash.

    • @olgierdolo5510
      @olgierdolo5510 2 місяці тому +2

      And that's the plain, undeniable truth! Canibus is easily one of the best lyricists, wax battlers and most passionate spitters EVER!

    • @Mize2dx
      @Mize2dx 2 місяці тому

      @@jsr6829 EM also cannot write " Master Thesis " " Godless America " " Bis vs Rip " Rude boy Oscar's " Kajui Karaoke " Covid Santa"...Canibus PEN is unmatched my guy!

  • @edgarjacc796
    @edgarjacc796 10 місяців тому +2

    Canibus name should be "Almost"

  • @camronshean1758
    @camronshean1758 Рік тому +3

    6:36 Canibus disses Eminem at the end of the first verse in his song Phuk U because Canibus says "Kickin' a hundred bars, nigga fuck who's on next, fuck you" and since Eminem was supposed to be on the song, Eminem is who would've been on next so that is a diss to Eminem. The third verse disses LL Cool J not Eminem. In a 2002 interview with AllHipHop, Canibus said the song wasn't a diss to Eminem
    AllHipHop: Now with the subtle disses to Em on this CD, did you have a verse dissing Eminem on the song F-You off your last album?
    Canibus: You know I've heard people talking about that but I wouldn't say that it was about Eminem. Every time people hear me rhyme they analyze my lyrics to death. But as far as Eminem, let me say this, I got a mutual respect for Eminem because between his rhyming content and delivery, I think he's tight and that goes without saying. He's got the total package and has proven himself in the arena of selling records. So for the record I do wanna say that he is tight without a shadow of a doubt. If you ask Em about me he will say the same thing about me. As far as our careers it's just that he ran off with Dre when he got in the game and I ran off with Clef you know? If the tables were turned then maybe things would have been different also.

  • @natsusatsujinki8342
    @natsusatsujinki8342 8 місяців тому +2

    Canibus is the better rapper. Em is the more successful entertainer.

  • @acemany1126
    @acemany1126 5 місяців тому +1

    Canabis lol. That boy ended up bodying himself lol.

  • @mattsheezy5469
    @mattsheezy5469 Рік тому

    Thank you for picking up where the other guy left off. We’ve been asking him to keep making Beef videos, but dude seems to have Lost interest.

  • @losricos772
    @losricos772 11 місяців тому +2

    canibus who???? that's what happened.....

    • @losricos772
      @losricos772 11 місяців тому

      Probably trade it all for an eminem feature right now

  • @Time4SumAksion021
    @Time4SumAksion021 Рік тому +12

    It's funny how everyone who beefs with Eminem either is homeless now, switched genras or just fell off. Nobody that Eminem dissed is a rapper now. Even MGK who was like new rapper is punk rocker now😂. Wtf is going on? This man maybe never shot a man, but he killed a lot of them.

    • @Arsonop
      @Arsonop 9 місяців тому +3

      Those were weaker emcees. The two biggest lyrical fights Em had were with Canibus and Cage...and both Canibus and Cage lyrically won.

    • @natsusatsujinki8342
      @natsusatsujinki8342 8 місяців тому

      Canibus? Game? Nas?

    • @AceAlaska
      @AceAlaska 8 місяців тому +2

      I’m going through all the comments and it’s wild nobody is asking how canibus died. Rip to a legend

    • @KyleDevy
      @KyleDevy 3 місяці тому

      Ha!

    • @olgierdolo5510
      @olgierdolo5510 2 місяці тому

      It's a myth, tho. You got to adjust your perception, man. The ones he was dissing were mostly some goofballs, celebrities, wannabe rappers and shit like that. That made the buzz and made him feel himself. When he made it, he tried to appear as some rap bully calling shots, but this was nonsense. MGK is a clown who did not know what to do with his 5 minutes of fame so he's doing him, lol. Canibus's carrer was hurt by his questionable decisions, non-marketable style and POSSIBLY Cool J/Def Jam influence, but that's it. He was meant to go underground as it suits him more, but he's still doing well and getting busy. You can't silence the ones who truly mean it.

  • @Percepti0nIsReality
    @Percepti0nIsReality 24 дні тому +1

    Love them all, but Canibus was on another level for me.

  • @rickt1866
    @rickt1866 9 місяців тому +2

    em by far