what kind of strange swamp living creatures actually paints on the sprue?? I just though it was a joke whenever I saw someone suggest it. The only reason I can find to paint on the sprue is if you want to do it like an art piece or similar. I do a sub assemblies myself to make sure I can both reach the difficult areas but also keep the contact point clean so I can glue them together properly. Just assemble in manageable pieces and stick it all together with some poster putty and prime away in any color that isn't black ;) For Space Marines I tend to, for open pose marines, leave the power pack and head separate, and for not so open posed I glue the arms and weapons together as a sub assembly alongside the head. It seems a lot of youtubers take sub assembly too far, no need to have every single bit separate :)
A surprising amount of people actually, I think it’s mainly people that are new to the hobby and have been led astray though haha. I have seen some painting the sprue up to use as an art piece like you say though, and they can look pretty awesome so I’ll allow that 😉 And yeah I completely agree, I see some painters having super complex sub assemblies for things that really don’t need them, and then a lot of the paint ends up being covered up by other pieces anyway, maybe they just love the process! Thanks for the insight my friend and thanks for watching!
Painting by numbers or painting miniatures is not art. It's crafts. It's a huge joke to the art world when people think painting models has anything to do with art. Sure there are people who push the limits and create art, but that is a tiny niche.
@@geeksworkshop my brother in Christ, I’m Swedish, English is not my native language, so don’t expect me to know the intricate details that differentiates arts from crafts. And if a banana duct taped to a wall is considered art in the art world then a nicely painted miniature still on the sprue counts as well.
@@geeksworkshop Art is subjective - you're welcome to your opinion of what is art. I tend to agree with OP... Terence Koh gilded his poop and called it art. I personally think a unique and finely painted mini is FAR more artistic than that.
I might be the odd duck out but I like to assemble paint then mount. A lot of people like to do the mounting before painting. I agree with you that the tough to reach areas probably don’t need the same attention that other areas do. But for me the option to paint before mounting gives me additional flexibility to hit odd angles that are more comfortable for myself with mobility issues. Then once I gets the more difficult bits done then I mount
Ahhh that makes complete sense, I feel silly for not considering mobility issues as a reason for alternate approaches to painting in this video, maybe I’ll refresh it in the future, thanks for providing some different perspective Stephen I hope you’re well my friend
Wow, you can paint those miniatures really well! Even the ones you painted on the sprue look good. Might I ask were that skeleton robot came from? Is it warhammer, or some other kind of gaming mini? Great video, by the way!
Hey my man hope you’re well!! Thank you I enjoyed painting these ones, and yeah it’s from 40k this specific one is a necron royal warden, but there’s a whole bunch of different necrons, maybe some cool ones that you could use in your vids!
Painting on the spure comes from painting triditional plastic models like what you would see from tamiya, revell and airfix, it's often used on tiny parts or to paint to parts separately before assembly. A good example would be secondary guns on battleship models where their casing is in the colour of the ship while the gun it's self gets inserted into the casing and is often black or gun metal. It's often used for cockpits of aircraft as well. With these models not all of the part needs paint and that often coincides with the spure, with just touching up hear and there. This technique and benifits don't really apply to miniatures like Warhammer which do benefit from being assembled then painted after.
Painting on the sprue is something borrowed from especially aircraft modelling, where this makes a lot more sense since they deal with smaller parts, many that will be otherwise obscured as they are part of the interior or cockpit. That said, 'painting on the sprue' like shown here is the zealot-y way of painting minis on the sprue - what you do is, you clip off all the attachment pints except one. From that, you cut everything off with part of the sprue, giving you a nifty little handle, especially if you use an attachment point that can be easily hidden, like under the foot.the part can then be cleaned as usually, primed and painted. This is basically 'remove all the parts and paint them separately', but with the bonus of the sprue handle. All that said, the very big downside is as mentioned, gaps - you won't be able to hide gaps painting this way, unless you have total confidence all parts fit perfectly.
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Eh, I don't think one would/should paint all on the sprue but I often prime the whole sprue and in case of terrain sometimes do some basic drybrushing already. Fixing the cutout damage is super fast after assembly.
I can see how it could be helpful for that, especially if the little sprue connection point is as the bottom and wouldn’t be visible when you attach them anyway, then you don’t need to worry about any clean up work really
Hahaha there is no real wrong way to be fair this was just to highlight some of the negatives from it, but really you just gotta do what you enjoy so carry on my friend!
I am not, and I had something completely different in mind after reading your comment but just checked his channel hahaha, he’s got a very enjoyable format to be fair and just got a new subscriber from me! Thank you my friend, appreciate it!
WARNING: This is a longer comment! But it has all the details that you asked for!!! So if you still don’t get why some people paint the way they do after reading this, then nothing will help you!!! Just saying lol So if you don’t care about that or don’t like long comments then skip this!!! Honestly I want to know who paints their minis 100% with all the detail on the sprue without cutting the sprue at all and then cuts the pieces out and try’s to glue them together??? Like the only time I’ve ever seen anyone paint their minis like that was when those people were planing on keeping them as is! And they do NOT cut anything out!!! But those are not meant for playing with!?! There made as wall art (I don’t know……. I’m not so rich that I can buy a bunch of this stuff for my walls and then more so I can play with!?! And if I don’t have any interest in the game and don’t plan on cutting it out of the sprue, then I’ll just spend my money on the stuff I will actually be using)! But also on the opposite side of things, I’m not a fan of gluing the mini 100% together and if you can’t reach a area do the “lazy technique” of base coat it black and hope no one actually picks up your mini to look at it!!! Like yeah, when people are looking at it from a video or a picture you can easily angle it so those people can’t see your lazy spots! And yes also, when it’s on the tabletop and it’s far enough away where you/whoever isn’t trying to actually look at the details of the mini then it’s also hard to see! But at least to me, I want each one of my mini’s to look good enough that if someone picks up one at random EVERYTHING is painted perfectly!!! So depending on the mini that will determine what I’m going to do!?! If nothing is blocked off in a large enough area were there is no way I can get a brush in there, then I will do sub assembly (and yes, you have also done this in your videos I’ve already watched even if that’s not what you think it is! If you’re confused about what I’m talking about, ask?!?)! If not, then I will put it all together (minus the base) and then prime and paint it! But if I do sub assembly, then I won’t do the final details on the outer parts or were those pieces are going to connect until I put in all together and then clean up anything that might have got messed up (which is rare and if anything, it’s minor! But I also know better than to use plastic glue doing this because it will destroy any paint it touches)! But 1 pieces I will almost always keep separate to paint is the head! If the head was attached to the sprue from the part that is going to get glued then I will keep it on “a piece of the sprue” that was cut out! Because then you can get to ALL the mold lines!!! If it’s attached at the top (which I think is a dumb idea from those companies that do that! Unless the heads really big) then I cut it out! But then I attach it to something else that doesn’t block any part of the head! And once I’m done with the details of the face I glue it in place which since the part that attaches you will never be able to see, it doesn’t mess anything up ever (unless you intentionally try to mess it up)!!! I just find it hilarious that people actually think and act like there is only 1 way “you have to do it”!?! Just because you can’t do it that way that doesn’t make it wrong! But even worse is those people that will preach about 1 way being wrong and should never be done!?! And then when it really matters they end up doing it that way but will lie about it or call it something else!!!
is your next video going to be about why you should use a paintbrush? or why you shouldn't paint with a spatula and raw, unthinned, paint? i've literally only seen this done once as a novelty, people aren't doing this and the reasons why are kinda obvious.
what kind of strange swamp living creatures actually paints on the sprue?? I just though it was a joke whenever I saw someone suggest it. The only reason I can find to paint on the sprue is if you want to do it like an art piece or similar.
I do a sub assemblies myself to make sure I can both reach the difficult areas but also keep the contact point clean so I can glue them together properly. Just assemble in manageable pieces and stick it all together with some poster putty and prime away in any color that isn't black ;)
For Space Marines I tend to, for open pose marines, leave the power pack and head separate, and for not so open posed I glue the arms and weapons together as a sub assembly alongside the head. It seems a lot of youtubers take sub assembly too far, no need to have every single bit separate :)
A surprising amount of people actually, I think it’s mainly people that are new to the hobby and have been led astray though haha. I have seen some painting the sprue up to use as an art piece like you say though, and they can look pretty awesome so I’ll allow that 😉
And yeah I completely agree, I see some painters having super complex sub assemblies for things that really don’t need them, and then a lot of the paint ends up being covered up by other pieces anyway, maybe they just love the process! Thanks for the insight my friend and thanks for watching!
Painting by numbers or painting miniatures is not art. It's crafts. It's a huge joke to the art world when people think painting models has anything to do with art. Sure there are people who push the limits and create art, but that is a tiny niche.
@@geeksworkshop my brother in Christ, I’m Swedish, English is not my native language, so don’t expect me to know the intricate details that differentiates arts from crafts.
And if a banana duct taped to a wall is considered art in the art world then a nicely painted miniature still on the sprue counts as well.
@@geeksworkshop Art is subjective - you're welcome to your opinion of what is art.
I tend to agree with OP... Terence Koh gilded his poop and called it art. I personally think a unique and finely painted mini is FAR more artistic than that.
@@technophobiakills4371 Everything is subjective, but colouring in the between the lines isn't art for any level, but a very young child.
I might be the odd duck out but I like to assemble paint then mount. A lot of people like to do the mounting before painting. I agree with you that the tough to reach areas probably don’t need the same attention that other areas do. But for me the option to paint before mounting gives me additional flexibility to hit odd angles that are more comfortable for myself with mobility issues. Then once I gets the more difficult bits done then I mount
Ahhh that makes complete sense, I feel silly for not considering mobility issues as a reason for alternate approaches to painting in this video, maybe I’ll refresh it in the future, thanks for providing some different perspective Stephen I hope you’re well my friend
Wow, you can paint those miniatures really well! Even the ones you painted on the sprue look good. Might I ask were that skeleton robot came from? Is it warhammer, or some other kind of gaming mini? Great video, by the way!
Hey my man hope you’re well!! Thank you I enjoyed painting these ones, and yeah it’s from 40k this specific one is a necron royal warden, but there’s a whole bunch of different necrons, maybe some cool ones that you could use in your vids!
@@SwampRatMiniatures cool! Thanks! I’ll have to look into it.
Painting on the spure comes from painting triditional plastic models like what you would see from tamiya, revell and airfix, it's often used on tiny parts or to paint to parts separately before assembly. A good example would be secondary guns on battleship models where their casing is in the colour of the ship while the gun it's self gets inserted into the casing and is often black or gun metal. It's often used for cockpits of aircraft as well. With these models not all of the part needs paint and that often coincides with the spure, with just touching up hear and there. This technique and benifits don't really apply to miniatures like Warhammer which do benefit from being assembled then painted after.
Painting on the sprue is something borrowed from especially aircraft modelling, where this makes a lot more sense since they deal with smaller parts, many that will be otherwise obscured as they are part of the interior or cockpit. That said, 'painting on the sprue' like shown here is the zealot-y way of painting minis on the sprue - what you do is, you clip off all the attachment pints except one. From that, you cut everything off with part of the sprue, giving you a nifty little handle, especially if you use an attachment point that can be easily hidden, like under the foot.the part can then be cleaned as usually, primed and painted. This is basically 'remove all the parts and paint them separately', but with the bonus of the sprue handle. All that said, the very big downside is as mentioned, gaps - you won't be able to hide gaps painting this way, unless you have total confidence all parts fit perfectly.
Eh, I don't think one would/should paint all on the sprue but I often prime the whole sprue and in case of terrain sometimes do some basic drybrushing already. Fixing the cutout damage is super fast after assembly.
Interesting, I can see it working well for terrain to be fair as a lot of the rougher edges would get covered up when you slot the pieces together
I have heard that some people are willing to pay good money for painted sprue , i saw a fully painted world eaters sprue and it looked great
Interesting, I’ve not heard of that before but will have a look into it!
I’ve done more sprue priming vs full on painting, or for mass painting heads/helmets
I can see how it could be helpful for that, especially if the little sprue connection point is as the bottom and wouldn’t be visible when you attach them anyway, then you don’t need to worry about any clean up work really
@@SwampRatMiniatures this is especially helpful with Kasrkin, as the helmets are in two pieces, painting the goggles before mounting is a lot easier.
No. Choose on a part by part basis.
Well shit, i didn't realize i was doing a hobby wrong...... not gonna change it though.
Hahaha there is no real wrong way to be fair this was just to highlight some of the negatives from it, but really you just gotta do what you enjoy so carry on my friend!
I hate that I kind of want to try this now.
Hahaha give it a go, some people paint the mini on the sprue and leave it there as a cool little thing to look at!
Are you the same dude who dose turd towns? You sound just like him. Great videos, keep them up.
I am not, and I had something completely different in mind after reading your comment but just checked his channel hahaha, he’s got a very enjoyable format to be fair and just got a new subscriber from me! Thank you my friend, appreciate it!
WARNING: This is a longer comment! But it has all the details that you asked for!!! So if you still don’t get why some people paint the way they do after reading this, then nothing will help you!!! Just saying lol So if you don’t care about that or don’t like long comments then skip this!!!
Honestly I want to know who paints their minis 100% with all the detail on the sprue without cutting the sprue at all and then cuts the pieces out and try’s to glue them together??? Like the only time I’ve ever seen anyone paint their minis like that was when those people were planing on keeping them as is! And they do NOT cut anything out!!! But those are not meant for playing with!?! There made as wall art (I don’t know……. I’m not so rich that I can buy a bunch of this stuff for my walls and then more so I can play with!?! And if I don’t have any interest in the game and don’t plan on cutting it out of the sprue, then I’ll just spend my money on the stuff I will actually be using)! But also on the opposite side of things, I’m not a fan of gluing the mini 100% together and if you can’t reach a area do the “lazy technique” of base coat it black and hope no one actually picks up your mini to look at it!!! Like yeah, when people are looking at it from a video or a picture you can easily angle it so those people can’t see your lazy spots! And yes also, when it’s on the tabletop and it’s far enough away where you/whoever isn’t trying to actually look at the details of the mini then it’s also hard to see! But at least to me, I want each one of my mini’s to look good enough that if someone picks up one at random EVERYTHING is painted perfectly!!! So depending on the mini that will determine what I’m going to do!?! If nothing is blocked off in a large enough area were there is no way I can get a brush in there, then I will do sub assembly (and yes, you have also done this in your videos I’ve already watched even if that’s not what you think it is! If you’re confused about what I’m talking about, ask?!?)! If not, then I will put it all together (minus the base) and then prime and paint it! But if I do sub assembly, then I won’t do the final details on the outer parts or were those pieces are going to connect until I put in all together and then clean up anything that might have got messed up (which is rare and if anything, it’s minor! But I also know better than to use plastic glue doing this because it will destroy any paint it touches)! But 1 pieces I will almost always keep separate to paint is the head! If the head was attached to the sprue from the part that is going to get glued then I will keep it on “a piece of the sprue” that was cut out! Because then you can get to ALL the mold lines!!! If it’s attached at the top (which I think is a dumb idea from those companies that do that! Unless the heads really big) then I cut it out! But then I attach it to something else that doesn’t block any part of the head! And once I’m done with the details of the face I glue it in place which since the part that attaches you will never be able to see, it doesn’t mess anything up ever (unless you intentionally try to mess it up)!!! I just find it hilarious that people actually think and act like there is only 1 way “you have to do it”!?! Just because you can’t do it that way that doesn’t make it wrong! But even worse is those people that will preach about 1 way being wrong and should never be done!?! And then when it really matters they end up doing it that way but will lie about it or call it something else!!!
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Toe fungus lol 😂😂😂
It’s quickly becoming my number one crafting medium 😉
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is your next video going to be about why you should use a paintbrush? or why you shouldn't paint with a spatula and raw, unthinned, paint? i've literally only seen this done once as a novelty, people aren't doing this and the reasons why are kinda obvious.
That is a great idea actually I’m adding that to my list, probably blow some minds with that one