I am purposely building a 2013 era PC right now as sort of time machine for myself. A good place to waterfall parts to. It should be able to handle half the games I play anyways, 90% of what I play is pre 2020. PCs to me are sort of like classic cars to some people. The flip side though is that old hardware is dirty cheap and next to free at times. I am a 40's gamer, my golden era of PC gaming was 2006-2012, I was DEEP into gaming and PC building. So being about to build, builds that I used to be barely able to afford for next to nothing, is sort of fun. Half the fun is tracking down or running into parts you remember. Younger gamers, will have no idea what I am talking about until they are able to use 3090s as paperweights and pay like $15 for them. It will happen, it's a matter of time. Side note: Fortnite looks actually good in a cartoon sort of way on the performance API, especially for a shooter where FPS is everything.
Not really. He mostly used games were released around the time this was still a good GPU. He used 2 newish games. Imagine if the benchmarks were only of current 2024 games. Wouldn’t look nearly as good.
@@Glubbdubdrib The long shelf life of Playstation 4 and the Switch are certainly helping old PCs. If the game was released on either consoles, it should run quite well in a 2013/2014 PC.
Mines is a i7 3770 (non k) with 16gbRAM @1600mhz with a MSI R9 390 8GB. It's all old for sure but the gfx card is the only real issue now as they dropped support and some games won't launch. Still great for most games, but its time to build again. Even if I only went with a used 2020 gfx card, I would squeezing out another couple of years from it.
I use a 670 to play games from the early 2010s at 1440p. The GPU handles it quite well. I got around 100fps playing Bioshock Infinite at 1440p with settings maxed. The problem with Kepler GPUs is that they only support DX12 feature level 11.0. Cyberpunk, Witcher Next Gen, FC6, a few others are the only AAA releases from this decade that will run on Kepler. Most esports titles will run on Kepler. But the texture issues in SMR are definitely due to outdated drivers. Maxwell is still getting updates and, even though it has the same feature level limitations, any game that works at that feature level will run without issues. I recently tested several recent AAA titles on a Quadro K2200, including playing Cyberpunk for several hours at 1080p absolute lowest settings with FSR Ultra Quality with a steady 30fps and forgetting I was playing on such a weak GPU. Really a testament to FSR, which was doing the heavy lifting. Obviously it didn't look as good as the 1440p Medium, 90fps I am used to getting when playing Cyberpunk; it reminded me you don't need a great system (or even a midrange one) to have fun playing games. Got me back into the game and I wasn't sure that was going to happen any time soon. I wasn't really a fan of some of the version 2.x changes. They nerfed the crap out of Skippy and screwed with difficulty levels. The new skill tree is complex and confusing. I miss the old assault on Arisaka Tower. The new stuff completely changes Silverhand's character. He's supposed to be a bitter, bigoted terrorist, not a dude trying to save his output. It also completely ignores the bombing of Arisaka tower like it never happened, though it is repeatedly referenced in game. 1:53 I always cringe when people plug in a 24 pin this way. It causes substantial board flex, which just seems like tempting the fates, especially with old hardware. You can break traces or pop SMT components off a board if you flex it too much. I prefer to put the plug in position and seat it with my thumbs while supporting the PCB with my fingertips since this part of the board is usually not well supported and it takes substantial force to seat a 24 pin connector. I also support the back of the board when inserting RAM if the board is out of the case. When mounted in the case, the RAM slots are reasonably well supported.
1:28 Having an 3770K or even better an 3930K OCed really helps in modern gaming. 3930K still gives a bearable performance in modern games. Most people who bought High-End tier video cards back in 2013 paired them with at least 3770K.
Sadly some newer games require AVX2 which the Sandy and Ivy Bridge CPUs don't have. i7-4770K from 2013 should be able to run or at least start new games for many more years since it has AVX2 and FMA3
My 1070 pc is still working with almost all its parts from 7 years ago. Even when I got a more modern pc with a 7500f and an rx 7600, I still prefer to play on the old one most of the time, though that maybe becuase its running as a tv pc with a controller, and paired with a comfy couch, its pretty good.
coolest era of pc gaming, I have a similar build rocking a windofrce 970 paired with a 2500k inside a thermaltake v3 very era aproppriate, it even has a CX500 powering the rig
this was my combo for years… absolutely loved it. “upgraded” to a slightly newer rx580 about a year ago and then the cpu died a few months ago. i ordered parts for pretty much a whole new rig just today.
great video, your accent sounds familiar, maybe the black country, Im a PC builder myself and I don't see many people around my area building computers haha. carry on with the great videos.
Honestly it’s nice to know even on older parts stuff can still run, a lot of people don’t appreciate that but for people like me who like to kit bash computers it’s a marvel
🙂 for older pcs pull up the gpu tier list and start your search around the 3060 and work your way down the list and for ideas on games look at videos that say top 100 low spec or top 100 mid spec games
Currently running a i7 970 with a GTX 1050 for 9 years, plays the games I like ok; I get a mostly stable 60 fps on Minecraft, 7 days to die, paradox games. Hard pressed to upgrade or even build a new pc even now.
Don't worry, Microshit is taking care that you will have to buy a new PC by 2025. Unless more games will be ported to Linux so it becomes a real alternative
I was on X58 / LGA1366 for 10 years (2013-2023). The final specs were X5670 6c/12t @ 4.4GHz, 24GB 1600MHz, GTX 1080. It did really well in games like Genshin Impact, Star Rail etc. and Control, RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077 ran fine too. I have Windows 10 LTSC 2019 on it which has support until 2029 but I could upgrade it to the IoT LTSC 2021 which has support until 2032. Or I could use Rufus to bypass Win11 requirements and put IoT LTSC 2024 on it which has support until October 2034
Could i get Dead Island 2 for such tests? Because its one of the best games yet and really good optimized so maybe its better playable on such a machine :)
I’m trying to remember that 1. I recall Titan X & I played on 980-Ti & felt similar. Good for ages but it’s 6gb was it’s only lag after 1080-Ti Brilliant fun
This would make a great Win 7 offline gaming pc and a dual boot Linux pc for day to day. I want too get my hands on some Titans, but atm two R9 290s will tide me over for my Win 7 setup.
If I could go back and tell myself what to build, I would definitely go for a Z87 board with i5 4670, GTX 670, 4x4 1600, and a Samsung 840 250gb, in a Fractal R2 mini case... After a 4 or 5 years, maybe up that to an i7-4790, aGTX 970, 32 gigs of 2400 DDR3, and a 2Tb+ 860 so I can stream and store more games... That setup would actually be enough for the mimimum settings for almost every one of my games now in 2024...
The Korean 1440p monitor invasion was happening in 2013 (xstar, Yamakasi Catleap, Achieva ShiMian, Crossover, etc..) more people where on 1440p than you think :) Ps locked ivy and sandy you can overclock locked chips by 4 bins on a unlocked motherboard.
Still using the x79 platform from 2013 until right now. However I've maxed out the ram, and slapped in the rtx3080 12G. It ran Black Myth Wukong ( without Ray Tracing that is). As for CPU, I removed the 4970K and slapped in the Xeon 10 core 12 threads for 25 bucks ( Used to be $3-5K when released)
@@ProYamYamPC If I still had my old motherboard with my i7 5820k I would of sent it you!! But sadly I parted it, hopefully someone got a insane deal for you to grab one! Cancel Reply
I have a similar system, except it's Xeon E3-1270 v3 (Haswell) and GTX 950, and I'm looking to squeeze 1-2 more years out of it by replacing the GPU, which I can reuse in the next machine (I'm considering RTX 3050 as I prefer low power usage GPUs).
@@dankvader420 Thanks for the advice, but this rig has already developed stability issues, though these are RAM (or rather DIMM slot) related and go away for a while after I reseat the RAM sticks, but I don't want to add any more potential issues on top of that. In any case, my backlog is chuck full of old AA/AAA and lighter indie titles which run quite well on the system, and will provide me plenty to play until I buy a modern gaming PC sometime before Win10 support ends next October (or earlier if the stability issues get worse or I get tired of dealing with them.) Currently playing: Doom Remaster, Aeterna Noctis (on lowered settings, admittedly), Gravity Circuit, and Thunder Wolves :)
@@dankvader420 better yet, get a x5650 - 5670 xeon for cheap, and try some slight overclock. My x5650 is overclocked at 3.5 ghz while consuming 95w, with an rx570 can play most games to date and ddr3 ram is cheap. (avx2 games wont boot). Better yet, oc to 4ghz with 95w and 2000hz ram, but 1600mhz ram cannot be overclocked that much (1866mhz can).
Small correction. R9 290X 4GB is the fastest gpu of 2013. 😃 And it supports dx 12_0 😃 So with some i7 4770 or xeon E5 1620 it can be a cheap gaming computer for someone that doesn't care about the electric bill. For those that do care some cpu like ryzen 5 3600 and a gpu like RX 6600 will perform much much better and use less Watts.
I had one and a 3770k at 4.5Ghz and 2x8GB DDR3. The problem is to find one that still works, mine 290 (blower model) died after 8 years of use. A friend of mine had a GTX780 and changed it in half the time I stayed with mine 290 because of the 3GB.
@@86FCS I had i5 3470 and 2x4GB of ddr3 and a 280x 3GB. My friend had the 290x 4GB and I was at first like he wasted money, but as years went by I was more and more jelly. Last cpu and mobo combo that 280x was in, is R5 2600x and 16GB ddr4 during the peak of the mining craze. Still have it in a box.
@@ProYamYamPC Yea, started getting into pcs around 2014 and i remember watching pc builds with these kinds of parts, but pc cases looked a whole lot different back then. The h440 and later the s340 from nzxt were the coolest ones imo haha always dreamed of building in them, but I only had a generic asus pc which i upgraded with a 950 strix.
Xeon was not exactly gaming CPU back in the day 😁It did cost arm&leg to buy it, and only like 10 years after release it became cheap enough for average gamer .
That's not true. LGA1155 and LGA1150 Xeons were usually slightly cheaper than locked i7's even when they were new. I saw a lot of people recommending them for gaming PCs on forums back in 2013. LGA2011 Xeons on the other hand were expensive
@@aleksazunjic9672 LGA115* Xeon E3's don't have any more cores than i7's. They use literally the same exact die but most of the Xeons have the iGPU disabled and they have ECC memory support.
@@Pasi123 Yeah, you are right about this generation of Xeons. Still, they were expensive back in the day, not exactly gaming material, especially since they had ECC RAM which was not readily available or cheap.
I remember seeing those old flag ships like a gtx 780 980 and Titan and thinking I'd never afford them...and now I have a 780 had a 980 have a 1080 and a 2080 lol and each one less than 200 bucks.
i am gonna make a youtube channel i am gonna make a video about upgrading a dell precision 3430 what gpu should i use i am gonna test gta, fortnite, valorant, starfield, black myth wukong, and call of duty and csgo i expect 144 fps in competive games and a solid 50 - 60fps in story games so people will look at the video and say i dont need a high end pc to play games that i want and i try to avoid rx 580 but it is a good card
@@talon1706 I really dont know which gpu to choose because rx 580 good for super budget but i think i might need something different like a gtx 1660 super or rx 5700xt if you find something different please tell me
lol, the people in the comments is like the equivalent of stubborn PS4 owners who refuse to upgrade to PS5 because developers are forced to tweak the game to run at very poor image quality and 30fps and they say that's fine - this is even when their favourite franchises like FF7 and Silent Hill aren't being developed for PS4. It's really not fine bro, just spend £600-800 to upgrade your PC and get a decent 1080p card like 6700 xt or 4060. You'll be able to play your games using amazing upscaling technology (like FSR 3 or DDLS) and the game actually looking good, rather than making it look awful and saying a 970 or Radeon 580 still doesn't need to be upgraded in 2024. Who wants to play games in low settings and say 'no need to upgrade yet'? 😂😂
i'm worse than one of your stubborn ps4 owners... i haven't used a console since the ps3, for 2 reasons... one, i refuse to spend 60-70 dollars on a new game, then have to spend an extra 10 bucks a month to play the game online with my friends that also have it... and two, consoles are very good single-task machines, but forget trying to play a game while streaming it and talking on discord all from that console... and to counter your point, if "bad graphics" aren't fine, why are things like indie games, emulation, and retro gaming so popular?... and some of us out there are okay with 1080p medium, because not that long ago, games were actually good enough that it didn't need to run at some crazy high resolution or triple digit framerates to be considered playable
I mainly play games like Genshin Impact and Star Rail which run at max settings 1080p 60fps on a GTX 970. Both games have a 60fps cap so even the fastest card wouldn't make a difference unless also upgrading to a higher resolution monitor. My main card is a GTX 1080 but it's fast enough for the rare occasions when I play something harder to run. I do have plans to upgrade to a 1440p monitor sometime in the future and upgrade the card at the same time. The GTX 1080 would still stay in use and replace the GTX 970 in another PC
@ProYamYamPC hey umm I have a r9 290 and I flicked the bios switch after turned pc off and turned back on screen was black gpu fan was spinning but no post so turned pc off and switched the bios switch back turned on amd it posted 10mins later it makes a gray screen with square all over it gpu fans still turn on just won't post now have I bricked gpu by switch bioses
PoYamYamPC : you should have used the R9 290X 4GB (or the MSI R9 290X 8GB Gaming 8G) that was released on October of 2013 as opposed to the GTX 780 Ti 3GB released on November of 2013. The R9 290X still runs todays games in the wast majority because it supports hardware DX 12 API.
I am purposely building a 2013 era PC right now as sort of time machine for myself. A good place to waterfall parts to. It should be able to handle half the games I play anyways, 90% of what I play is pre 2020. PCs to me are sort of like classic cars to some people. The flip side though is that old hardware is dirty cheap and next to free at times. I am a 40's gamer, my golden era of PC gaming was 2006-2012, I was DEEP into gaming and PC building. So being about to build, builds that I used to be barely able to afford for next to nothing, is sort of fun. Half the fun is tracking down or running into parts you remember. Younger gamers, will have no idea what I am talking about until they are able to use 3090s as paperweights and pay like $15 for them. It will happen, it's a matter of time. Side note: Fortnite looks actually good in a cartoon sort of way on the performance API, especially for a shooter where FPS is everything.
Mate, my current PC is circa 2014... and works still reasonably good...
I love these videos with older pcs
I'll keep them coming. I have a couple of ideas for some other builds!
Insert the " I'm still running an Athlon 64 x2 paired with a GTX 210 no need to upgrade yet" comment here, please.
Quite impressive that it's still handles many games without much issues albeit at lower settings.
Not bad at all right?🙌
Not really. He mostly used games were released around the time this was still a good GPU. He used 2 newish games. Imagine if the benchmarks were only of current 2024 games. Wouldn’t look nearly as good.
@@Glubbdubdrib The long shelf life of Playstation 4 and the Switch are certainly helping old PCs. If the game was released on either consoles, it should run quite well in a 2013/2014 PC.
Mines is a i7 3770 (non k) with 16gbRAM @1600mhz with a MSI R9 390 8GB. It's all old for sure but the gfx card is the only real issue now as they dropped support and some games won't launch. Still great for most games, but its time to build again. Even if I only went with a used 2020 gfx card, I would squeezing out another couple of years from it.
still rocking a 1080 with a r5 5600g, still rocks
W PC build bro🫡
@@ProYamYamPC Best upgrade path?
(staying in the high-value zone)
2011
i5-2500k
HD7950
8GB DDR3
128GB SSD, 1TB HDD
2014
i7-3770k
R9 290
16GB DDR3
256GB SSD, 2TB HDD
2017
r7-1700
GTX 1070
16GB DDR4
512GB nVme, 4TB HDD
2020
r5-5600X
RX-6800
16GB DDR4
1TB nVme, 1TB SSD
2023
r9-5800x3D
RX-6950XT
32GB DDR4
1TB nVme, 2TB SSD
2026 (presumption)
r7-9800x3D
RTX-5070 Super-Ti
32GB DDR5
4TB nVme
2029 ?
.... unknown!
I built a lot of Sandy, Ivy, Haswell with GTX 600-900 series. I know quite a few are still chugging along and gaming somewhere.
I've had a 750ti paired with a Xeon (i7-4790 equivalent) up until 2023! I've played a lot of titles on it and I still have it :)
Currently running an RTX 2080 with an I7 9700k, not flagship but it gets the job done for the most part.
I'd wait for 60 series before upgrading. I'm judging based on my 2080 ti, however.
I use a 670 to play games from the early 2010s at 1440p. The GPU handles it quite well. I got around 100fps playing Bioshock Infinite at 1440p with settings maxed.
The problem with Kepler GPUs is that they only support DX12 feature level 11.0. Cyberpunk, Witcher Next Gen, FC6, a few others are the only AAA releases from this decade that will run on Kepler. Most esports titles will run on Kepler. But the texture issues in SMR are definitely due to outdated drivers.
Maxwell is still getting updates and, even though it has the same feature level limitations, any game that works at that feature level will run without issues.
I recently tested several recent AAA titles on a Quadro K2200, including playing Cyberpunk for several hours at 1080p absolute lowest settings with FSR Ultra Quality with a steady 30fps and forgetting I was playing on such a weak GPU. Really a testament to FSR, which was doing the heavy lifting. Obviously it didn't look as good as the 1440p Medium, 90fps I am used to getting when playing Cyberpunk; it reminded me you don't need a great system (or even a midrange one) to have fun playing games.
Got me back into the game and I wasn't sure that was going to happen any time soon. I wasn't really a fan of some of the version 2.x changes. They nerfed the crap out of Skippy and screwed with difficulty levels. The new skill tree is complex and confusing. I miss the old assault on Arisaka Tower. The new stuff completely changes Silverhand's character. He's supposed to be a bitter, bigoted terrorist, not a dude trying to save his output. It also completely ignores the bombing of Arisaka tower like it never happened, though it is repeatedly referenced in game.
1:53 I always cringe when people plug in a 24 pin this way. It causes substantial board flex, which just seems like tempting the fates, especially with old hardware.
You can break traces or pop SMT components off a board if you flex it too much.
I prefer to put the plug in position and seat it with my thumbs while supporting the PCB with my fingertips since this part of the board is usually not well supported and it takes substantial force to seat a 24 pin connector.
I also support the back of the board when inserting RAM if the board is out of the case. When mounted in the case, the RAM slots are reasonably well supported.
My son has the 980ti in his system. It plays the games he wants just fine.
I love the 980 Ti. I made a video on it recently and it's still a great card
1:28 Having an 3770K or even better an 3930K OCed really helps in modern gaming. 3930K still gives a bearable performance in modern games. Most people who bought High-End tier video cards back in 2013 paired them with at least 3770K.
I imagine it helps out a lot, especially in the eSports titles
@@ProYamYamPC I still have my old 3770K system and running it stock VS 4.5GHz makes a lot of difference with 0.1% 1% lows.
Sadly some newer games require AVX2 which the Sandy and Ivy Bridge CPUs don't have. i7-4770K from 2013 should be able to run or at least start new games for many more years since it has AVX2 and FMA3
My 1070 pc is still working with almost all its parts from 7 years ago. Even when I got a more modern pc with a 7500f and an rx 7600, I still prefer to play on the old one most of the time, though that maybe becuase its running as a tv pc with a controller, and paired with a comfy couch, its pretty good.
You talking like its 20y old, 7 is nothing for pc to still work
coolest era of pc gaming, I have a similar build rocking a windofrce 970 paired with a 2500k inside a thermaltake v3 very era aproppriate, it even has a CX500 powering the rig
Still using an i7 4770K and a GTX 970. Runs a lot of thing fine. No need to upgrade yet.
i just repasted a 970, gotta see if it still works
Awesome combo!
this was my combo for years… absolutely loved it. “upgraded” to a slightly newer rx580 about a year ago and then the cpu died a few months ago. i ordered parts for pretty much a whole new rig just today.
Ahahahaha 😂😂😂
great video, your accent sounds familiar, maybe the black country, Im a PC builder myself and I don't see many people around my area building computers haha. carry on with the great videos.
Honestly it’s nice to know even on older parts stuff can still run, a lot of people don’t appreciate that but for people like me who like to kit bash computers it’s a marvel
I'm always happy to showcase older hardware. In fact it can be more fun that playing around with new hardware!
@@ProYamYamPC agreed especially when you know it actually works 😂
@@spadesofpaintstudios1719 exactly🤣
🙂 for older pcs pull up the gpu tier list and start your search around the 3060 and work your way down the list and for ideas on games look at videos that say top 100 low spec or top 100 mid spec games
I thought Iceberg Tech already covered modern games on 2013 specs.
Now ProYamYamPC has covered it🫡
Togeva! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Sounding like Rykard from Elden Ring😭🙏
Haswell i7 with RTX 2060 is very affordable PC which plays very well anything really
Funny you said that, I made that exact build🤣
@ProYamYamPC whoop whoop
Currently running a i7 970 with a GTX 1050 for 9 years, plays the games I like ok; I get a mostly stable 60 fps on Minecraft, 7 days to die, paradox games. Hard pressed to upgrade or even build a new pc even now.
Don't worry, Microshit is taking care that you will have to buy a new PC by 2025. Unless more games will be ported to Linux so it becomes a real alternative
@@CHAOSDixieMan ltsc iot win 10 is supported till 2032 btw
I was on X58 / LGA1366 for 10 years (2013-2023). The final specs were X5670 6c/12t @ 4.4GHz, 24GB 1600MHz, GTX 1080. It did really well in games like Genshin Impact, Star Rail etc. and Control, RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077 ran fine too.
I have Windows 10 LTSC 2019 on it which has support until 2029 but I could upgrade it to the IoT LTSC 2021 which has support until 2032. Or I could use Rufus to bypass Win11 requirements and put IoT LTSC 2024 on it which has support until October 2034
@@CHAOSDixieManWhy? Im on windows Xp, running good.
Great to see hardware from over a decade ago can still be relevant now.
Always! People are so eager to write this older hardware off
Could i get Dead Island 2 for such tests? Because its one of the best games yet and really good optimized so maybe its better playable on such a machine :)
I doubt it would run due to the lack of driver support
Still using my ryzen 1700x + RTX 2060.
love my PC.
I’m trying to remember that 1. I recall Titan X & I played on 980-Ti & felt similar. Good for ages but it’s 6gb was it’s only lag after 1080-Ti
Brilliant fun
This would make a great Win 7 offline gaming pc and a dual boot Linux pc for day to day. I want too get my hands on some Titans, but atm two R9 290s will tide me over for my Win 7 setup.
Rhew R9 290 is a great card! I tested one not too long ago
If I could go back and tell myself what to build, I would definitely go for a Z87 board with i5 4670, GTX 670, 4x4 1600, and a Samsung 840 250gb, in a Fractal R2 mini case... After a 4 or 5 years, maybe up that to an i7-4790, aGTX 970, 32 gigs of 2400 DDR3, and a 2Tb+ 860 so I can stream and store more games... That setup would actually be enough for the mimimum settings for almost every one of my games now in 2024...
Highest ddr3 speed is 2133
@@rdg665 hmmm... then i guess don't look up kingston HX324C11SR/8... 8gb stick of 2400mhz cl11 ddr3 ram... which runs 1600 at 1.5 and 2400 at 1.65v
Next time set fps locked at 30,40, 60, 75, and 120. Sometimes a game fluctuating between 40 and 70 will run locked at 60.
I'm making a video on this soon👀
@@ProYamYamPC unlocked FPS does unnecessarily hammering on the memory bus. Thats the bottleneck a user does willfully put up on it's system.
The Korean 1440p monitor invasion was happening in 2013 (xstar, Yamakasi Catleap, Achieva ShiMian, Crossover, etc..) more people where on 1440p than you think :)
Ps locked ivy and sandy you can overclock locked chips by 4 bins on a unlocked motherboard.
Still using the x79 platform from 2013 until right now. However I've maxed out the ram, and slapped in the rtx3080 12G. It ran Black Myth Wukong ( without Ray Tracing that is). As for CPU, I removed the 4970K and slapped in the Xeon 10 core 12 threads for 25 bucks ( Used to be $3-5K when released)
Wonder if you can do a 2015 pc with a 980 ti and a i7 5820k!
I sure can, leave it with me. I already have the 980 Ti, and I've wanted an X99 platform for ages
@@ProYamYamPC If I still had my old motherboard with my i7 5820k I would of sent it you!! But sadly I parted it, hopefully someone got a insane deal for you to grab one!
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I have a similar system, except it's Xeon E3-1270 v3 (Haswell) and GTX 950, and I'm looking to squeeze 1-2 more years out of it by replacing the GPU, which I can reuse in the next machine (I'm considering RTX 3050 as I prefer low power usage GPUs).
Dont go for rtx 3050. Go for a 6600xt instead
The RX 6600 is more efficient mate. It’s also much faster🫡
@@ProYamYamPC @reizen5659 Thanks guys, I'll look into RX 6600!
Get an rx 6600 instead it's barely more than 100 bucks on ebay, and it's much faster
back in 2018 sold my 1st pc to my friend an i5 3470 8gb r9 380 4gb he upgrade it 16gb RAM and still use it to day to play csgo 2 and dota 2 gta V
Nice stuff! I'm glad your friend is finding use in old hardware!
better than my 2022 prebuilt pc
Heh, this PC is better than my current one (i7-920, 1050 ti) in just about every way.
*Average X58 enjoyer*
Definitely overclock the i7, you'll need that extra performance for some games if you want to keep up with newer CPUs.
@@dankvader420 Thanks for the advice, but this rig has already developed stability issues, though these are RAM (or rather DIMM slot) related and go away for a while after I reseat the RAM sticks, but I don't want to add any more potential issues on top of that. In any case, my backlog is chuck full of old AA/AAA and lighter indie titles which run quite well on the system, and will provide me plenty to play until I buy a modern gaming PC sometime before Win10 support ends next October (or earlier if the stability issues get worse or I get tired of dealing with them.)
Currently playing: Doom Remaster, Aeterna Noctis (on lowered settings, admittedly), Gravity Circuit, and Thunder Wolves :)
X58 mentioned🔥🔥
@@dankvader420 better yet, get a x5650 - 5670 xeon for cheap, and try some slight overclock. My x5650 is overclocked at 3.5 ghz while consuming 95w, with an rx570 can play most games to date and ddr3 ram is cheap. (avx2 games wont boot). Better yet, oc to 4ghz with 95w and 2000hz ram, but 1600mhz ram cannot be overclocked that much (1866mhz can).
Small correction. R9 290X 4GB is the fastest gpu of 2013. 😃
And it supports dx 12_0 😃
So with some i7 4770 or xeon E5 1620 it can be a cheap gaming computer for someone that doesn't care about the electric bill.
For those that do care some cpu like ryzen 5 3600 and a gpu like RX 6600 will perform much much better and use less Watts.
According to Techpowerup, the Titan is slightly faster. But the 290X aged much better
@@ProYamYamPC Look up the benchmarks. It was better in 2013. as well.
if its winter time your room wiil get a bit warmer as well
I had one and a 3770k at 4.5Ghz and 2x8GB DDR3. The problem is to find one that still works, mine 290 (blower model) died after 8 years of use. A friend of mine had a GTX780 and changed it in half the time I stayed with mine 290 because of the 3GB.
@@86FCS I had i5 3470 and 2x4GB of ddr3 and a 280x 3GB. My friend had the 290x 4GB and I was at first like he wasted money, but as years went by I was more and more jelly. Last cpu and mobo combo that 280x was in, is R5 2600x and 16GB ddr4 during the peak of the mining craze.
Still have it in a box.
im still gaming on my 970m 5700hq msi laptop 😂 9yr old laptop and counting
fishtank case in 2013? didnt see much of them around back in the day… looks good for its age although im not a fan of the fishtank design
The case is new. But all of the performant parts were from around 2013🫡
@@ProYamYamPC Yea, started getting into pcs around 2014 and i remember watching pc builds with these kinds of parts, but pc cases looked a whole lot different back then. The h440 and later the s340 from nzxt were the coolest ones imo haha always dreamed of building in them, but I only had a generic asus pc which i upgraded with a 950 strix.
It's time have an older pc since most of newer games are crap these days...
What about going even older? Maybe a 2008 Core 2 Quad and GTX 260 PC?
I actually have a Q6600 (my first CPU), I could find an LGA 775 board and a 200 series card. I like your thinking🫡
Whats the casing youre using on this one? it looks cool
It's a dual chamber from Ionz, I can't remember the model name
Was waiting for Baldurs Gate 3, The last of US and Red Dead 2 😂
A 3770 non k can easily be overclocked to 4.2 ghz stable. Shame you didn't clock it up slightly.
There is onlyu so much I can do on this AliExpress B75 board🤣
Xeon was not exactly gaming CPU back in the day 😁It did cost arm&leg to buy it, and only like 10 years after release it became cheap enough for average gamer .
That's right. If I had a 3770/K on hanmd I would have used one. So, technically, this PC build would have been a workstation back in the day
That's not true. LGA1155 and LGA1150 Xeons were usually slightly cheaper than locked i7's even when they were new. I saw a lot of people recommending them for gaming PCs on forums back in 2013.
LGA2011 Xeons on the other hand were expensive
@@Pasi123 Yeah right, more cores less price 😁Why would anyone buy i7 then .
@@aleksazunjic9672 LGA115* Xeon E3's don't have any more cores than i7's. They use literally the same exact die but most of the Xeons have the iGPU disabled and they have ECC memory support.
@@Pasi123 Yeah, you are right about this generation of Xeons. Still, they were expensive back in the day, not exactly gaming material, especially since they had ECC RAM which was not readily available or cheap.
I remember seeing those old flag ships like a gtx 780 980 and Titan and thinking I'd never afford them...and now I have a 780 had a 980 have a 1080 and a 2080 lol and each one less than 200 bucks.
I got my 1080 for freeeeee
@@伊藤博文-v6bthief?
I'm exactly the same, I got into PC gaming when the 780 Ti released. What a time
Rare ProtoMario sighting
People who are questioning their live, because these parts run the games better than their own pc.
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no it doesn't lol
is the copium good ?
Sure, if they have a system from 2015 or earlier 😂
massive amounts of copium from a bot 💀
Because they have office computers from earlier times with integrated graphics. DUUHH.
should have used the 4770k
how can u forget to test CS2 :(
Yo what case is that?
its one of those DIYPC cases i dont recommend it, its blocking the intake fans, theres better alternatives
It's a case from Ionz but I can't remember the model
Free gigabytes on the 780ti? 😎
Turn up textures
Thats what I did mate🤣
This isnt a gaming pc this is a workstation pc, i7 + 780ti would do much better in games
They’re very close in performance but the Titan has the VRAM. Meaning I could crank the textures
i am gonna make a youtube channel i am gonna make a video about upgrading a dell precision 3430 what gpu should i use i am gonna test gta, fortnite, valorant, starfield, black myth wukong, and call of duty and csgo i expect 144 fps in competive games and a solid 50 - 60fps in story games so people will look at the video and say i dont need a high end pc to play games that i want and i try to avoid rx 580 but it is a good card
Look at the game's spec requirements. It will give you a good idea.
@@talon1706 I really dont know which gpu to choose because rx 580 good for super budget but i think i might need something different like a gtx 1660 super or rx 5700xt if you find something different please tell me
thats an i7-8700, equal to 3600, pretty much anything up to a 3070 or radeon equivalent
lol, the people in the comments is like the equivalent of stubborn PS4 owners who refuse to upgrade to PS5 because developers are forced to tweak the game to run at very poor image quality and 30fps and they say that's fine - this is even when their favourite franchises like FF7 and Silent Hill aren't being developed for PS4. It's really not fine bro, just spend £600-800 to upgrade your PC and get a decent 1080p card like 6700 xt or 4060. You'll be able to play your games using amazing upscaling technology (like FSR 3 or DDLS) and the game actually looking good, rather than making it look awful and saying a 970 or Radeon 580 still doesn't need to be upgraded in 2024. Who wants to play games in low settings and say 'no need to upgrade yet'? 😂😂
i'm worse than one of your stubborn ps4 owners... i haven't used a console since the ps3, for 2 reasons... one, i refuse to spend 60-70 dollars on a new game, then have to spend an extra 10 bucks a month to play the game online with my friends that also have it... and two, consoles are very good single-task machines, but forget trying to play a game while streaming it and talking on discord all from that console... and to counter your point, if "bad graphics" aren't fine, why are things like indie games, emulation, and retro gaming so popular?... and some of us out there are okay with 1080p medium, because not that long ago, games were actually good enough that it didn't need to run at some crazy high resolution or triple digit framerates to be considered playable
I mainly play games like Genshin Impact and Star Rail which run at max settings 1080p 60fps on a GTX 970. Both games have a 60fps cap so even the fastest card wouldn't make a difference unless also upgrading to a higher resolution monitor.
My main card is a GTX 1080 but it's fast enough for the rare occasions when I play something harder to run. I do have plans to upgrade to a 1440p monitor sometime in the future and upgrade the card at the same time. The GTX 1080 would still stay in use and replace the GTX 970 in another PC
hey, what fps measurement program do you use?
msi afterburner
I use MSI afterburner and Riva Tuner. I have a video on how to set it up
Back when intel 🤝 nvidia are still the best combo for gaming
For real🫡
R9 290x is the best
It certainly aged better. But the Titan was king back then
@ProYamYamPC hey umm I have a r9 290 and I flicked the bios switch after turned pc off and turned back on screen was black gpu fan was spinning but no post so turned pc off and switched the bios switch back turned on amd it posted 10mins later it makes a gray screen with square all over it gpu fans still turn on just won't post now have I bricked gpu by switch bioses
PoYamYamPC : you should have used the R9 290X 4GB (or the MSI R9 290X 8GB Gaming 8G) that was released on October of 2013 as opposed to the GTX 780 Ti 3GB released on November of 2013. The R9 290X still runs todays games in the wast majority because it supports hardware DX 12 API.
According to Techpowerup, the Titan was faster back then. Which was probably the case. But the 290X is certainly the better card today
"A twenty-ferteen pc playing veh witcheh Free."
Ok pal
free gigabytes
I have the best 2013 pc
Asus Maximus Hero 6 S1150
i7 4770k 4.6Ghz
16GB RAM 2400MHZ CL11
GTX 780Ti
1080p Gaming