I want to see you guys play this. I was impressed by CS files when you reviewed that. Mysterium was the first thing that came to mind, that and it seems to have a group dynamic similar to that of Avalon. One team perpetrating the crime; and another team, one unbeknownst to the criminals has a lot of information.
I remember seeing a little coverage about this game a while back, and thinking it looked interesting. I had forgotten about it until I noticed this review. Now that I know a little more about it, it's a definite buy for me. My family often wants to play Clue, so this will be a great game to introduce them to. Thanks for reminding me of this game!
I wouldnt say this is Mysterium killer. This works with more players and mysterium with 4-5. Think for this game to shine needs something like 7-9, cant imagine to play it with four.
I don't own Deception: Murder in Hong Kong yet but I think I'd choose to play that over Mysterium just because of set up time. Mysterium takes awhile to sort everything and get playing.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. This is obviously a game for bigger groups, and more in the party game genre, whereas Mysterium typically only has two plays in one evening because it takes a while longer.
I backed this once I realized it was CS Files, but improved and renamed. I almost missed it on the KS campaign because I wasn't looking for it under a different name. I was sufficiently impressed by the CS Files review you did a while ago to subscribe to its feed and keep an eye open for the game. This one looks like it would be fun and a good deduction game if we can get a couple more people together.
My family, who are not really into the board game hobby, love this game! I can break this game out at a gathering and teach it in about five minutes. Every time we’ve played we’ve always had a surprise deduction, and a ton of laughs!
They aren't murder weapons Tom actually miss spoke. The rules say its "Means" and "Evidence". For example there is one Means card which is "Surgery". Doesn't mean they were killed by the surgery, just that that is how the murderer was able to kill them. So they could have been poisoned, or cut, or drowned during surgery
Awesome. Looks like a good game for a large lunch group as well. If you go to the Kickstarter page you can pick it up, along with the stretch goals for the original backer price. The shipping date was December 2015, but they say they're ahead of schedule.
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Seems like a really fun game. One question though, what is the point of having conversation, or guessing, before the Forensic Scientist has a chance to replace all his clues? Wouldnt it be a lot faster to allow the FS to just pick 4 of 6 tiles and use those?
linguotgr conversation is the most important part of the game. Investigators need to talk out what they think based on clues, so fs can know which cards give best info and which ones need to be replaced
Can anyone help me to explain some words? cause English not my first language. In scene tiles I didn't understand these tiles (General Impression) ( In Progress). Thank you
I have found that Mysterium only works as a game if you relax the rules about drawing new cards. Dies a death in most groups I have played it with unless the ghost draws and plays new cards to keep it going. Otherwise its a long game that's difficult to win, that feels like its impossible for most of the game. DMiHK works with a much broader range of people I feel.
I must be absolutely mad, or the person explaining it had it all wrong but I hated it. The game kinda ended and we weren't even close to the correct answer. Pretty much everyone else felt the same, so we moved on to another game immediately after.
JevousGaming i think ur group.must be not too good with logic. With my group, unless the fs is really illogical or murder is really good, investigators win most of the time, or very close to.win. Suggestion would be for your group to not focus what got picked but also what has not been picked.
I gotta be honest, when you put a game I the D.T. Essentials, I tend to be EXTREMELY skeptical...my trust in these reviews is dwindling DRAMATICALLY! 😕
It's an ok game, but once you make your guess, go get some food, talk to other people, go to the bathroom, come back, and players are STILL discussing the same things that they were when you left, it gets old very fast. I honestly didn't even care who the murderer was by the end. I didn't care if we won or lost. It's just another "You did it. No you did it." game. My review: Play it once. Don't buy it. Wait for someone to suggest it.
Wow I am just sharing facts. I had no idea what problem you had with the creator of the video. Sorry that I offended that ego of yours. And by the way go do a little search on wikipedia what is Chinese, Mandarin, Cantonese, etc, that's the least you could had done.
Leos Ng with a little research, as suggested, it seems the written chinese is called "Han", which is based on mandarin. there are separate traditions for cantonese, etc. so mandarin, like i said.
Ok now that we are in back in proper discussion Yes, you are right. It is called Han zi (the word of han) after the Chinese Han dynasty, but the origins of that written form go beyond that. And in fact it's only unified by the Qin Emperor. There are no unique written form of words or letters for Cantonese etc, there may be very specified words that can only pronounced using different dialects, but those are also considered Chinese words/letters. Just look at it this way, Chinese is the board term that defined the entire family of the language, Mandarins, Cantonese and other dialects are consider a sub branch of the same family. But because Mandarin is most spoken in China and other Chinese majority countries, I am not surprised that people get confused. So in this situation, when it is written, it's correct to describe the words/letters as Chinese or Hanzi (they are interchangeable, but most non chinese wouldn't know what you meant by Hanzi). The words and letters had no sound to define them, only when it's spoken, then you can further define the spoken sounds and pronunciations further into their unique dialect of Mandarin/cantonese/etc
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Backed this game on Kickstarter after seeing your review of the previous version. Concept meets Clue? With a traitor?! Looks awesome.
I want to see you guys play this. I was impressed by CS files when you reviewed that. Mysterium was the first thing that came to mind, that and it seems to have a group dynamic similar to that of Avalon. One team perpetrating the crime; and another team, one unbeknownst to the criminals has a lot of information.
I remember seeing a little coverage about this game a while back, and thinking it looked interesting. I had forgotten about it until I noticed this review. Now that I know a little more about it, it's a definite buy for me. My family often wants to play Clue, so this will be a great game to introduce them to. Thanks for reminding me of this game!
I wouldnt say this is Mysterium killer. This works with more players and mysterium with 4-5. Think for this game to shine needs something like 7-9, cant imagine to play it with four.
I don't own Deception: Murder in Hong Kong yet but I think I'd choose to play that over Mysterium just because of set up time. Mysterium takes awhile to sort everything and get playing.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. This is obviously a game for bigger groups, and more in the party game genre, whereas Mysterium typically only has two plays in one evening because it takes a while longer.
Worth mentioning that it pretty much requires 6+ players.
Mysterium works with fewer.
I had so much fun playing it last night with 4. I think it totally works!
I backed this once I realized it was CS Files, but improved and renamed. I almost missed it on the KS campaign because I wasn't looking for it under a different name. I was sufficiently impressed by the CS Files review you did a while ago to subscribe to its feed and keep an eye open for the game. This one looks like it would be fun and a good deduction game if we can get a couple more people together.
My family, who are not really into the board game hobby, love this game! I can break this game out at a gathering and teach it in about five minutes. Every time we’ve played we’ve always had a surprise deduction, and a ton of laughs!
I think they made a big mistake in not making the Murder Weapon the red cards.
They aren't murder weapons Tom actually miss spoke. The rules say its "Means" and "Evidence". For example there is one Means card which is "Surgery". Doesn't mean they were killed by the surgery, just that that is how the murderer was able to kill them. So they could have been poisoned, or cut, or drowned during surgery
Still should've been red.
I like his new hat.
And also this game is really awesome.
Awesome. Looks like a good game for a large lunch group as well. If you go to the Kickstarter page you can pick it up, along with the stretch goals for the original backer price. The shipping date was December 2015, but they say they're ahead of schedule.
This review confirmed what I already knew in my heart: this game looks AMAZING, and I cannot wait for my copy to arrive!!!
What do u think now ¿
+Paco Becerra absolutely love the game! It was a hit at my monthly game night group.
+Kristopher Miller (Kristastic) im New at the hobbie would you Help me with some names? We absolutlly love ticket to ride europe and I think im getting cosmic, we are that kind of bluff, party assholes gamers, peace from MÉXICO
+Paco Becerra Oh my goodness of you like bluffing and social games, The Resistance is my favorite game of all time. Dead of Winter is also great!
+Kristopher Miller (Kristastic) pandemic? Citadels, 7 wonders,? I love strategics too
Picked it up to play at Christmas was having trouble finding out the rules you explained so much thanks !
Got this game recently. Friends and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Highly recommend!
Live play highly suggested
+Tr1pleOseveN I agree! This game sounds like it would be fun to watch. Especially with Zee (with his background in acting.)
+New Troll and the thing that his parents are chinese might help also :D
Thanks for the review I got this for Christmas and this was helpful
Great review, explains how to play and the appeal of the game quite succinctly!
Seems like a really fun game. One question though, what is the point of having conversation, or guessing, before the Forensic Scientist has a chance to replace all his clues? Wouldnt it be a lot faster to allow the FS to just pick 4 of 6 tiles and use those?
linguotgr conversation is the most important part of the game. Investigators need to talk out what they think based on clues, so fs can know which cards give best info and which ones need to be replaced
just picked this up in....Hong Kong
Looks a little more complicated than something like Spyfall but I'm definitely going to pick it up.
Can anyone help me to explain some words? cause English not my first language. In scene tiles I didn't understand these tiles (General Impression) ( In Progress). Thank you
no way is this a Mysterium killer. I find Mysterium to be much better, as I think the Dixit/Clue combo works better than Resistance/Concept
I have found that Mysterium only works as a game if you relax the rules about drawing new cards. Dies a death in most groups I have played it with unless the ghost draws and plays new cards to keep it going. Otherwise its a long game that's difficult to win, that feels like its impossible for most of the game. DMiHK works with a much broader range of people I feel.
Dave Lynam the ghost draws a new card every time one is given to a psychic player. Not sure what "relaxed" rules you're referring to.
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Dave Lynam ah, that's the best part in our group. It's a resource that you have to manage. we love it as is
Basically I think the game plays better if the ghost has no hand limit.
I must be absolutely mad, or the person explaining it had it all wrong but I hated it. The game kinda ended and we weren't even close to the correct answer. Pretty much everyone else felt the same, so we moved on to another game immediately after.
JevousGaming i think ur group.must be not too good with logic. With my group, unless the fs is really illogical or murder is really good, investigators win most of the time, or very close to.win. Suggestion would be for your group to not focus what got picked but also what has not been picked.
Hi Vi!
Mysterium is easily the better game experience!
I enjoy Mysterium, but I think I like this better.
My version isn't English and Chinese. It's English and for some reason... German. Quite loses the "Oriental Flavour"
Cosmetic mask? Looks more like someone scalped a Mii.
Not for 2 players????
I gotta be honest, when you put a game I the D.T. Essentials, I tend to be EXTREMELY skeptical...my trust in these reviews is dwindling DRAMATICALLY! 😕
Kevin Maxwell this is not a dice tower essentials game. seal of approval/excellence does not mean essential.
can you get this game without the Chinese writings?
It's an ok game, but once you make your guess, go get some food, talk to other people, go to the bathroom, come back, and players are STILL discussing the same things that they were when you left, it gets old very fast. I honestly didn't even care who the murderer was by the end. I didn't care if we won or lost.
It's just another "You did it. No you did it." game.
My review: Play it once. Don't buy it. Wait for someone to suggest it.
also in chinese? do you mean mandarin?
Chinese is the written words, mandarin, cantonese, hokkien, teochew etc are the dialects.
Leos Ng vasel apologist
Wow
I am just sharing facts. I had no idea what problem you had with the creator of the video.
Sorry that I offended that ego of yours.
And by the way go do a little search on wikipedia what is Chinese, Mandarin, Cantonese, etc, that's the least you could had done.
Leos Ng with a little research, as suggested, it seems the written chinese is called "Han", which is based on mandarin. there are separate traditions for cantonese, etc. so mandarin, like i said.
Ok now that we are in back in proper discussion
Yes, you are right.
It is called Han zi (the word of han) after the Chinese Han dynasty, but the origins of that written form go beyond that. And in fact it's only unified by the Qin Emperor.
There are no unique written form of words or letters for Cantonese etc, there may be very specified words that can only pronounced using different dialects, but those are also considered Chinese words/letters.
Just look at it this way, Chinese is the board term that defined the entire family of the language, Mandarins, Cantonese and other dialects are consider a sub branch of the same family. But because Mandarin is most spoken in China and other Chinese majority countries, I am not surprised that people get confused.
So in this situation, when it is written, it's correct to describe the words/letters as Chinese or Hanzi (they are interchangeable, but most non chinese wouldn't know what you meant by Hanzi). The words and letters had no sound to define them, only when it's spoken, then you can further define the spoken sounds and pronunciations further into their unique dialect of Mandarin/cantonese/etc