Gypsy Rose Blanch FREED From Prison After Killing Abusive Mom
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- Gypsy Rose Blanchard was released after serving 85% of her sentence for her part in the killing of her mother Dee Dee Blanchard after years of abuse. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks.
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"Gypsy Rose Blanchard, the Missouri woman who persuaded an online boyfriend to kill her mother after she had forced her to pretend for years that she was suffering from leukemia, muscular dystrophy and other serious illnesses, was released on Thursday from prison on parole.
Blanchard was released early in the day from the Chillicothe correctional center, said Karen Pojmann, a spokesperson for the Missouri department of corrections. Blanchard was granted parole after serving 85% of her original sentence, Pojmann said."
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So you can shoot someone to dead that breaks through your house window to steal your sneakers, but if you kill someone that holds you prisoner & torture you for decades, you get 8yrs in prison (in this case ask someone else to do it)? Someone explain how that makes sense?? Why didn't the court system grant leniency?
Here’s the problem to your argument about “don’t murder, go to the authorities”. After Gypsy ran away the first time, her mom tracked her down then Deedee went to a lawyer drawing up papers saying “she’s mentally disabled and unable to make her own decisions”. Therefore, gypsy believed she had literally no way out. If she went to the cops, all Deedee had to do was show them that document saying she was mentally impaired and bam, they wouldn’t believe her. Even one of the hospitals called DHS on Deedee and nothing came out of that investigation. Call me heartless or cruel, but the world was better off without Deedee in it. Even when she was cremated, no one in her family wanted her ashes. “Flush them down the toilet” was said by Deedee’s own father.
It feels like this channel is leaning right lately, victim blaming isn't cool.
@@necrogenesis1981 They're not blaming the victim, they're pointing out that murder should never be the only option. Very different.
@@vampiroangelico it’s not the only one, but it’s the first one after the trauma she received.
@@necrogenesis1981the victim is gypsy not Deedee lmao
@@TokesTv When did I say the opposite? Pay attention.
I’m not defending murder, but her mother had total control over her including power of attorney. She didn’t have access to documents to prove her identity or age, or a way to get to the police or hire an attorney. Not to mention any education to know any of this. It’s a terrible situation all around.
Didn't police return her to her mother too?
Self defence isn't murder.
@@MsAnpassad using the word murder because Jenk did. He’s implying Gypsy had the capabilities to get out.
@@CM-yx4tl Yeah, he pretty much said "just take your phone and leave." If I'm recalling the case right, Gypsy didn't have a phone. Her mother wouldn't let her leave. She had no documents, nothing to be able to leave and freely start her own life away from the abuse. She met the boyfriend online by sneaking onto the computer at night. Someone please correct me if you remember the details differently because I might be wrong, but I was really interested in this case years ago and that's what I remember.
IMHO She should have NEVER gone to prison. Her mother was pure evil!
It was basically self defense.
Tell me you didn't research this topic without telling me you didn't research this topic... Everyone failed Gypsy. Wellness checks where done on her and her mom talked her way out of the cops looking in to Gypsy. Gypsy ran away previously and had been caught. Her mom moved her away from her family. Buying a new phone, leaving the state (which she'd already tried), going to the authorities wouldn't have worked.
Tell me you don’t know anything without telling me you don’t know anything. Even Gypsy says there were options she didn’t consider and that she regrets her mothers murder.
“Just leave.”
“Go to the authorities.”
“There’s other options.”
Bad takes, guys. Do you have any awareness of how difficult it is for people to leave abusive relationships? There is so much more nuance to this than “just leave.” And go where? With what resources? And what’s next? In Gypsy Rose’s case, she had nothing. Didn’t know how old she was. Her mom faked her birth certificate. She didn’t think the police would believe her story anyway. Do yourself a favor and at least Google domestic violence and abuse. You might learn that it’s not as straightforward as you think it is.
It ain’t easy.
Cenk went into those nuances dude, like 10 seconds after the "just leave" he explained why it's more complex than that.
@@blackice11zhe never should have entertained such a ridiculous notion.
She should never have been in prison in the first place utter disgrace .
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Gypsy had gone to authorities before. They were told by DeeDee that Gypsy was mentally incapacitated. They sent her back.
Unless it's an incest or rape fetus the mother doesn't want american police won't care. Not wanting the first 2 options is their concern, and how they can help you overcome it by heightened policing of lady parts.
Trouble is her mum had convinced many doctors and community members that gypsy had the mental faculties of a small child and therefore could not make decisions for herself, so unfortunately I don’t think going to the police or running to a different state would have worked as her mum would have convinced everyone that she severely mentally delayed and therefore could not consent to leaving.
Great point
I imagine she can easily prove she wasn't mentally delayed. The act of planning and running away alone isn't something you would see with a mentally challenged individual. I think it's important to not undermine the choice made to murder here. There are other options. What you're basically doing is akin to affirming suicidal actions instead of trying literally anything else first.
You are dead wrong on this one. Ask yourself, would you claim that a woman in an abusive relationship with a man should just "drive to another state" or "go to the authorities" and soforth placing the blame on the continuation of the abuse on the woman? Didn't think so.
I grew up with two abusive parents, it took years for me to free myself even after becoming an adult. They torned down any sense of belief of selfworth.
It's an atrocity that this young girl was even sentenced to a day in prison. Neither should her boyfriend as he is mentally ill.
In a civilized country they would have taken to a mental hospital instead and released when they had become mentally stable. Nothing has been fixed by your countrys actions, it's actually quite a possibility that you have made it far worse.
20 years ago I would have called you crazy, today I see the worlds complexities and know I am not qualified to judge anyone.
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It's reasonable for TYT to say Gypsy should have gone to the cops. What they don't know is that she did do that, and the cops returned her home. So at that point it's hard to imagine she had recourse besides what she did.
@@synchronium24 It's not reasonable in the slightest, it's just ignorant.
She had a right to defend herself.She was horribly tortured by this woman. This woman chained her to the bed, had all of her teeth removed, countless unnecessary surgeries, beatings, alienated her from family. Literal torture. Her mother had people thinking she had the mentality of a child. If she ran away, she’d have been returned to that monster. She had every right to defend herself and break free from that torture.
I agree up until the last part. some are physically weak, you have to expect them to be strong in cunning, the fact that weak people use cunning prevents one strong idiot from pushing others around.
@@alicewright4322 You’re right, I’m editing that last part.
I am from the Springfield Mo area. This case was horrid. The ball was really dropped here to protect this poor girl. Sorry to say this but even IF she could have got away from her Mother to go to the local Springfield police, they would have done NOTHING to help her!
She tried running away but the police were always on DeeDee's side
Gypsy didn't have the physical ailments that her mother fostered upon her, but Gypsy was emotionally and mentally stunted due to her abuse.
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She didn't see another way, she tried to run, but her mom chained her to the bed, she tried to contact CPS, and social services, they didn't believe her.
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She couldn't make good decisions.
Disgusting she was ever in prison the system failed her. The guy who helped her should’ve had a different sentence, not right when he helped get a POS mother off the earth and lost his life.
She was NOT in jail. There is NO such thing as going to jail for life or murder and NO such thing as parole from jail. Jail is county, murder is a crime against the state. Jail is NOT prison.
She tried to call the cops, she tried to escape. Nothing worked. Her mother had her sign something saying that she was not in a mental capacity to make her own decisions, so no one took her seriously.
Gypsy never should have been locked up at all.
I think you're correct. She should have been put in a mental health facility to help her cope with the trauma of being tortured for so long and released as soon as possible. I'm sure that prison was not therapeutically helpful.
@tuxter01 none of them are, and the troubled teen industry wasn't either when it was still popular-and good luck to you if you ever get out. Speaking from experience. Western civilization famously takes the most vulnerable and traumatized members of society (drug addicts, homeless people, refugees, combat veterans) and spits in their face. It's truly sick and depraved.
All these suggestions are fine for a normal person, but considering she didn’t even know her age due to how far she had been abused and tortured, it’s hard to expect her to rationalize to that level
So it would be fine, to suggest to a normal person, that they go to the authorities ...who won't believe her, and always side with her mother? Leave ....when they've already tried that, and the authorities capture her, and take her back to her mother? I am amazed, that there are people, for whom it isn't blatantly obvious, that none of the "options", are things that she could realistically have done. She was left with no other option ...and the same authorities who participated in her torture, punished her, for merely acting in self defence. For doing the absolute only thing, that she possibly could, with the only other option, being to suffer as a constantly tortured slave.
Right? We expect this horrifically abused people to be perfectly logical in their response to their abuser
They don't have the luxury of second guessing.
@@mannygutierrez7654 More importantly: None of the suggested "other options" were things she could have possibly done, even if she was fully logical and mentally sound.
She had no other options.
None.
There is no sane argument, that what she did, wasn't an obvious case of justified self defence.
Yall are wrong about this. Murder is perfectly legitimate when it’s self-defense. This was self defense
The boyfriend should not have gotten life and she should have gotten out much sooner than 8 years. Great case to show how screwed up the judicial system is. She was tortured her entire life. What they did was justice. 💪
The boyfriend of Gypsy Rose is mentally delayed, so I'm not sure he should've been sentenced to life in prison.
I'm not sure, on the ine hand I agree he's mentally delayed and that he may not have had full cognizance of what he did, but as well in the interrogation as well as through the Facebook posts and texts he sent, he was VERY ready to kill someone, and not for the result but because he seemed genuinely excited to kill. Maybe not life in prison but he needs to spend a LONG time getting psychiatric help before I would feel safe giving him full freedom again
@@xXbaby_gurl88he was mentally unwell. His lawyers argued as much in his defense. Yes he had autism, but he also had a problematic upbringing and was socially isolated. He did not deserve a life sentence.
@@nickhoffman9256agreed. He should of gotten mental care and put in a group home or something, not life in prison
@@pink_electraagreed
Gypsy regrets the death of her mother. She knows it wasn't right. She tried to run away but someone told Dee Dee and she took her home and then tied Gypsy to the bed for two weeks!
Her mother was a monster. That girl never should have went to prison.
Her mother was so manipulative, everyone thought she was an innocent victim.
Gypsy’s father seems to be normal, but he left his family, and left her with an abusive mother.
Big problems came out of his initial irresponsible behavior.
Despite what Gyspy went through, murder is murder. Taking a life should be only for saving another life. Gypsy had other options
@@alexs1640 victim blaming is disgusting, go fuck yourself.
@@alexs1640she was saving her own life.
@nermalpancakes no she wasn't. If she had time to plan and have a boyfriend, she had the ability to escape. I swear some of you guys will end up taking a life at some point the way you casually act about murder
Can you imagine what would happen if she would have just ran away? Her mom had everybody convinced that she was so disabled that there would have been a manhunt across the nation for her and her "capturer" under the guise that she couldn't help herself and that she was in trouble. Yall should really look into some of the documentaries, because there was a lot of reasoning for her to feel like that was the only way out. Not saying that was the right choice, but her mom had her very convinced of her own guilt for cooperating with the mom's agenda.
The doctors who removed her salivary glands should be sued.
She was convicted that nobody would believe her if she went to authorities. And most likely she would've been correct. Everybody in the community believed that she was underage and disabled both phisically and mentally, and the police would have just sent her back home. The mom made the whole world know that Gypsy needed her constant care.
Gypsy and her boyfriend were both emotionally immature, she due to her mother's abuse and him due to untreated autism. She was convinced that if she went to the authorities, she would be arrested as an accessory to her mother's scam, so she thought that killing her was the only way out of her situation. It really didn't take much to convince her boyfriend to go along with it, as he was apparently already a deeply troubled young man who struggled with violent thoughts. I wouldn't shed too many tears for him though, dude was a total creep who once got arrested for masturbating in the middle of a McDonald's.
I don’t know if jerking off in a McDonald should mean you belong in jail for life
Nope. She should have never been put in prison. I wish Gypsy the best.
She does say that what she did was wrong and claims there could've been other ways out of that situation then murdering her mom, but I think her mom would've killed her before she would've had a chance to find another way to escape from her mom.
@@julief634 hind sight is 20/20 . She’s had some time to think about alternative scenarios. When she made her decisions she was not in her right mind and that was mom’s fault. Kids are supposed to individuate and will find a way.
@@karenabrams8986 Yep! totally agree. My mom abused me too but not as severe as her and it messes up your brain for life! Not to mention the years of trauma bond are hard to break.
I believe Gypsy Rose couldn't get a restraining order from authorities, since the mother convinced everyone Gypsy was mentally delayed.
It's a immensely complicated case !!!
And Gypsy ended up in an abusive relationship with her boyfriend.
complicated
woman tortures child and got killed. system failed the victim and sympathizer.
actually not that complicated
Who abused who?
"Psychologist Kent Franks testified at a 2016 hearing that he has more the mind of a child than an adult, according to a 2016 report by KY3 in Springfield, Missouri. He said that after two mental evaluations on Godejohn, he determined that the killer is on the autism spectrum with an IQ of 82 and the functionality equivalent to that of a 10-year-old."
So are you saying that she took advantage of his autism and the fact that he was prone to suggestions and used him to kill her mother?
The fact that she was jailed for killing her abuser is crazy to me
Her mother was so mentally ill, she tortured this poor girl for YEARS
I kinda get why she was put in prison, because not putting her in prison opens the doors for loopholes and excuses for murder, but she should've only gotten like 2 years considering the circumstances.
I think the time she got was well deserved, I get what she went through and hope she lives a happy life. taking a life is still taking a life no matter what and she will live with that for the rest of her life. she was much happier in prison than with her mother @@trinodot8112
@@trinodot8112 that makes a lot more sense than shutting her away for a decade for escaping the hell hole her mother created for her
Keep in mind that this girl was probably cut off from the world by her mother, probably had no money, no cell phone, no social skills, and no one to help her at all. If she had no access to the internet or TV and did not even know her age, she probably did not even know what a restraining order was. I’m not condoning unaliving someone, but she may have thought that was the only way out. Controlling people often EVERYTHING in a situation like this.
She shouldnt have been sentenced to jail at all. It was self defense.
She couldn't run away. She was under a conservatorship
But she was able to convince someone to kill her conservator. Her ass should still be in jail.
Doctors should go to jail. The people who knew she did not need those surgeries.
I saw it as self defense. The mother was torturing and slowly killing her imo, and a girl that sheltered and weak wouldn’t know her options. And knowing the police in this country, who’s to say the police would even believe them? Would Gypsy be able to properly articulate her abuse?
On top of that, even after reaching legal adulthood, who’s to say Dee Dee wouldn’t try to get conservatorship over Gypsy?
Runaway from home as a minor or go to the authorities? The mom would have duped them too saying she was mentally ill or delusional then the abuse would have been 10x worse.
She tried to run away!! Dee Dee found her and tied her to the bed!!
@@stacyharvey3554 Yep! I like that Cenk and Ana reported on this story, more people need to know about these mental illnesses, however, they clearly don't understand abuse at this level and when someone needs to use self defense or they are trapped and no way out, panic sets in and well it can happen and it does! Menendez brothers too, they should've been freed a long time ago.
You are all assuming that a girl that has been abused her entire life and tortured os going to make rational decisions. That assumption is absurd.
Exactly, she was literally raised to not think rationally. people seem to think that since they themselves would do thinks differently that it means a tortured, sheltered, prisoner would have the same critical thinking skills.
Thank you thank you thank you. Yes, well said!
💯💯💯💯💯
People don't understand the gravity of abuse. As an abuse victim you don't have a way out, because you're abusers always check mate you in every move. And we're also talking about a abuse childed rational. I survived, but I choose a different route that all.
This is a failure of the system. Murder isn’t justified, but could have been prevented had there been more aggressive medical intervention into the situation. Abuse needs to be taken more seriously
People really need to learn how to sit with the fact that sometimes cases can’t be viewed in a black-and-white, this-or-that manner. This is one of those cases.
You guys obviously don't understand narcissistic abuse. The manipulation, coersion, menacing and psychological abuse causes a person to live in constant fight or flight. She had no chance
Her education level was second grade so how would she know about restraining orders?
Lack of education, physical torture, maiming plus mental abuse does not equal happy outcome.
I also believe that the boyfriend had an IQ deficit and was also raised in a less than savvy environment 😕
@@MitziHart He was autistic!
She DID try to leave. She has met a guy at comic con and told him. He let her come and stay. The police showed up and brought her home as a simple runaway. Her mother convinced them she was mentally impaired.
when you have learned, since the age of Zero, that if you spoke to the authorities, the authorites would only listen to you mother and not you. It aint easy.
It is true that abused become abusers. Israel is a perfect example.
100% about Israel, especially and abuse in general. I had a lot of childhood trauma growing up. ❤
She has one of the most tragic and horrible lives there is. I’m glad she is free now. I hope she will live a much better life now.
I wonder why the multiple doctors that "mother" went to never reported her to the police and child protective services because ain't no way at least one of them wasn't suspicious. The system failed Gypsy multiple times, I hope she gets to enjoy her life and freedom as she should always have
because she wasn't a woman with w/e excuse Cenk gave us for a psychological condition. She was a phycho and willing to f*ck her offspring over to live a marginally better life.
If a doctor expressed any concern that Gypsy might not really be sick, Dee Dee fired them immediately.
@@sarah2.017 I know that but they should have still call, that even made her more sus
"There are a million other things you could do"? Really? *_None of those options you mention, are anywhere close to serious!_*
How easy would it be, to manage to get away to her boyfriends car, to drive out of state? How easily wouldn't the authorities get her back to her mother? Go to the authorities? The authorities who are on her mothers side, and who were part of doing all those terrible things to her? How can you possibly try to suggest that!? Get a new phone!? HOW!? Get away!? HOW!?
You're asking a severely traumatized child to think and respond rationally to her own mothers abhorrent abuse of her own daughter for the entirety of her life. I'm not saying I agree with what she did but at the very least I'm not going to blame her or chastise her.
Did you watch the whole video?
maybe watch the video again and this time pay attention
I think prison was overkill due to the fact that she's not likely to reoffend as she had clear reasons for what she did. Prison should be for getting dangerous people off the street. Gypsy Rose isn't dangerous.
She is dangerous, she planned the murder.
Gypsy preferred prison over being trapped with an abusive mother. A model prisoner.
There's a mental health aspect that would have made going to authorities a non option. If you've been abused by an authority in your life, you'll have zero faith in that working out.
She tried to get away with her boyfriend but her mother found her and gave her more dangerous medicine. It was self defense without question. And also maybe you know how to get help elsewhere but she had not a normal upbringing.
I always get the feeling that you guys never do real research.
they don't. you can find multiple example... click is more important than good and reliable information for tyt
She did run away from home once and was forced back. Simply running away was not exactly a viable option for her.
Exactly
Free the boyfriend.
The authorities obviously did nothing so she had to make her own arrangements. Hope she has a chance at a decent life .
This! There are groups that could have helped her, but how could she know that, when so many authority figures had been complicit? I wish she'd been put in a mental hospital, not a prison.
She DID try to get away I believe twice and the mother was so manipulative they cops took her back home. She was defenseless.
That's, oof. This was a bad take. You got a girl, who grew up being abused. Who saw people in positions of authority taking her mother's side. I'm sure she tried to tell others that there was nothing wrong with her, but who did they end up believing I wonder? Pretty sure it wasn't Gypsy. They're making the assumption that this girl even knew those options existed. The boyfriend likely did, but doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed. At the very least, his heart was in the right place. But to think that this girl was going to stand up against her mother without any support from family or friends is idiotic.
There are cases too where the authorities took them back to their abusers....
yeah i think she tried to escape once before and was brought back
Gypsy’s legal status was “ diminished capacity”, so going to the police may have resulted in being returned to her mother.
The mother had her declared diminished.
She didn’t even know her age. A moral compass is non-existence under such ignorance. She came up with the only thing she knew - violence.
She tried to escape many times i thought? And the cops brought her back. Then her mom tied her up.
makes no sense to me that she went to prison at all sounds to me that she should have been treated mentally and not put around in a prison filled with people that would more than likely abuse her
Honestly, I don’t think she should have been put in jail in the first place.
And yet the boyfriend will spend the rest of his life in prison-absurd.
He’s the one that actually stabbed the woman….. if you can be convinced to do that by a girlfriend then you are a danger to society. That’s the reality…. He is a danger to society, Gypsy isn’t .
@@jordyb57he does have a diagnosis himself, though, and was easily manipulated.
We don't know YET if she is a danger to society. I understand why she did that but I wouldn't trust this woman. I surely wouldn't have married her. @@jordyb57
@@jordyb57 The boyfriend was autistic and prone to being influenced.
"Psychologist Kent Franks testified at a 2016 hearing that he has more the mind of a child than an adult, according to a 2016 report by KY3 in Springfield, Missouri. He said that after two mental evaluations on Godejohn, he determined that the killer is on the autism spectrum with an IQ of 82 and the functionality equivalent to that of a 10-year-old."
@@WhereTheBeaversLivetrue…. but then he should be put in a state mental hospital…. and I’m saying that with compassion. If his diagnosis makes him susceptible to killing people, then he is a danger to society.
You're Expecting someone who is irrational from severe trauma and abuse to be rational. Not logical.
I don't think Gypsy Rose should have EVER been imprisoned. A residential Mental health facility or ten years of probation would have been more appropriate. Her mother's mental illness was no excuse for her despicable and horrific treatment AGAINST HER DAUGHTER. As for the "boyfriend"? I cannot comment much. Why a young boy would agree to kill Gypsy's mother...is a big question. I have little information about the motives of him. Did he have a criminal record? Was he an ADULT? So few ANSWERS.
Was he Brain-damaged or mentally SLOW or did Gypsy MISLEAD HIM AS WELL? Were his motives ONLY to protect Gypsy...or did he just want to murder somebody? Too many unanswered questions. We may never know the answers...so maybe don't waste the viewer's time on an excerpt news story. Without more information...it is impossible to form an opinion. I am a helluva lot more disgusted with DEE DEE who betrayed her MOTHERHOOD...and the MEDICAL PROFESSION...WHO LET GYPSY DOWN!!!
Y’all don’t have nearly enough facts to be commentating on this. Gypsy tried to run away, dee dee found her and chained her to a bed.
I'm glad she's out. She needs to live life. Her boyfriend should be out too. He had developmental problems . What they did was bad but she was so abused she didn't even have the chance to be in the right mind.
I have seen munchausen first hand. I can not blame Gypsy for what she did. Her life was awful. I’m glad she’s out.
Everything you listed, she did. The system failed her
Why does nobody talk about the mentally handicapped guy she talked into killing for her? Life compared to 10 years is garbage.
First, these two news people, NEED to know the whole story, before putting their input on it. They didn't get the whole story, shame on them for reporting on a story they know nothing about.
I wouldn't say shame on them! I'd use other words but you are right they don't know the whole story. She's free so everyone is trying to get a piece of it. Not worth it.
I am part of the crowd that doesn’t miss her. But Gypsy Rose DID try to escape but the mother called the cop and went to get her. The mother also broke all her electronics devices.
Victim blaming she did good defended her self took out her own demon
Not saying that what they did was right, but remember that the mother had a knack for convincing people that her daughter had problems and she had all kinds of medical documents to prove it and she had power of attorney, so had GR call the police, the chances that they would do anything were slim. If she ran and if she was declared mentally incapable, they could drag her back home.
Her mother had gotten papers drawn legally labeling her as incompetent. She was afraid if she went to the police, they would see that legal document and just send her back to her home. Just fyi… she also tried running away, her mother found her in a couple hours, took her back home and chained her to the bed.
For what it’s worth, she tried all of the things you mentioned she should’ve done rather than killing her mother. Of course what she did was wrong, but I have trouble judging her harshly
You're insane if you think the authorities would have listened to her.
Her mother was going to un alive her.
She did what was nessisary.
You don't know if her mom was going to un alive her.First of all Gypsy Rose was their meal ticket etc. No major harm to the meal ticket. And yes the cops would of listened to her story! Why? Because she had the hospital and doctors backing her up in the records. And they very well could of taken her to the hospital. She knew she was old enough. Doing what she did was not necessary!
Unalive? We can’t say kill anymore?
@whatmyohmy major harm had already been done to Gypsy Rose and the disorder her mum had is motivated by getting attention, not money, which is why people with that disorder just tend to cause more and more harm to their victims until the victim either escapes somehow or dies.
Lol nope! Most of the time, if a child claims to be being abused, authorities ask the parents if it is true, and when they deny it, the parents are believed 🤷♀️ Unless the authorites witness the abuse first hand or the parents confess, they'll assume the child is lying. This is the norm in the west, and it is well recorded. Very rarely do children who are being abused get help from cops or any other authority figure.
@mykoniichistorychannel just using the word 'murdered' can get ones comment deleted online 🙄 it's stupid
If you had been abused not only by your mom but authorities who are supposed to make people healthy and live better, how would you feel about other authorities? Would you trust them to help you? I agree that murder wasn't the answer but when your entire life is an incredibly abusive lie how are you supposed to believe that there are people who are honest, helpful and real? How do you know not everyone has an ulterior motive or is out to use you?
Did Gypsy Rose understand that she had other options? She was abused and brainwashed since she was a young child. Authority figures listened and believed her mom. How would Gypsy Rose know there was help from authorities available? If you are a prisoner of war, would you hope other options some day reveal themselves or would you murder your captor to be freed from the daily torture?
Given that she was in a situation, where she was imprisoned and tortured, with no possible way out of it, other than getting her mother killed... I don't see how it is justified, that she or her boyfriend were put in prison. It was clearly self defence. She had no other options, and I don't see how the boyfriend did, either. The people responsible, for her not having any options, should be the ones to be punished.
Her mother (a) also had ALL her teeth removed, (b) forced her to live in a wheelchair when anyone was around, deprived her of ever attending school, isolated her from having any friends, had an abdominal FEEDING TUBE placed in her that she would use to drug her while she slept to induce symptoms of sickness, AND gained a conservatorship over her with all her lies- meaning no, Gypsy couldn’t “just leave” (she tried once). Aside from the psychologically disabling effect of a lifetimes of that kind of manipulation would do to anyone, she had zero place to go, no idea how to operate in the world without Deedee because being of lack of socialization and education, but also because, despite being a legal adult, that conservatorship gave Deedee basically complete “ownership” rights over Gypsy.
I’m not for murder… but sometimes it truly is the only way to be free and with the resources- mental, physical and legal- that Deedee deprived Gypsy of… this was the only way, it just was.
The fact the Gojohn was involved and did the act adds an incredible wrinkle to it. I don’t see him as a hero, but he had his own mental problems that clearly could have made him dangerous in any number of situations, and that is a whole different issue can of worms. His profile suggests he would have ended up in prison for a violent offense eventually anyway… this would gruesome, but at least it served some good, sad to say.
I disagree with your guys' take here. While murder may not have been correct, keep in mind at the time of the crime, everyone, includong Gypsy to an extent, thought she was afflicted with multiple debilitating diseases. Her mom had the world convinced she NEEDED her constant care to survive. If she had disappeared with a mentally challenged teenager her mom wouldve gine to the news and police and they wouldve been hunted down immediately and she wouldve been sent right back. Even if they werent found she wouldve had to seek medical help at some point because even she thohght she was suffering from some of these issues. Murder may nlt have been the right move but its hars to really see another way out
She had no money. She couldn’t have bought a phone or just start another life somewhere else. That’s hard when you have no money. Wish she had chosen a different route but maybe she was afraid the cops wouldn’t believe her when she said her mom was abusive. She wasn’t worldly at all
lolz , and her boyfriend ? it was an act of revenge. not to get away.
Its impossible with no money.
She should never have been charged with anything, nor should her boyfriend. She only acted in self defence, and all the "other options" that are mentioned, are preposterously unrealistic/impossible. She was left with no other choice.
That’s not what self defense is
@@anotheryoutbechannel Really? How so? How was she not in a situation, that warrants self defence? How did she not do the minimum amount of harm, to protect herself?
She should never have been in prison, her mother had it coming
She was a child raised up in this. There was no normalacy to help her realize she needs to ask for help. In her world, all the authorities (when you are a child, doctors, teachers, etc are authority) believed her mother. How might she have realized that she could ask anyone for help? If all the adults believed her mother, what would she expect from any other adult. I don't even believe she needed any jail. She needed psychiatric help. Not jail that could add to her negative experience and knowledge of the world. Think about the ugliness she may have learned in prison.
Does she even know how to handle relationships and their problems? Did anyone make sure she has the counseling to help her navigate these things? Someone in the comments said she's married now. What of her future children. She was a victim, society further victimized her, and now society will expect her to live a normal life without inadvertently harming herself and others. How? I wish the best for her and hope she didn't just get set up for failure.
You think the police would have believed her? I have my doubts. Seems there was plenty of “documentation” of her “illnesses”, and she would have been fighting against the word of her mother, AND a slew of medical professionals, as well. Think this one through. Cops would have considered her unable to care for herself, and would have returned her to her abuser had she left.
There are people who would help her, but how could she know. She was afraid.
Her boyfriend Nicholas has level 2 autism spectrum disorder and has significant challenges.. he didn't deserve that sentence but needed to be in a psychiatric prison unit. Just sad all around
"Get a phone, or leave"? I agree asking someone to kill your mother is wrong, but where does the money come from to "just get a phone" or to "flee"? Psychologically and probably financially the daughter would have been limited due to her own mental illness. It was all wrong right from the start.
She wasn't given an education, knew nothing of how to do anything for herself, was severely abused, medically, mentally and physically. How can anyone blame her?
Look at these two talking about moving to another state, when even pregnant women can't move to other states just to get abortions 😂😂😂.
Yeah, she was under a conservatorship so even if she wanted to "run away" she couldn't.
Screw parents rights when it comes to absue.
Politicians need to stand up for children and add severe consequences for all types of abuse not just physical and sexual abuse.
This mother wasn't taught problem solving skills.
Let this be a lesson to when you wanna abuse someone they're gonna come back and take revenge on you.
This why you treat people better from the beginning, worse situations can happen in the future if you don't.
Parents rights need to be revoked if they are mentally ill
I'm sorry, but your answers are incredibly over-simplified and honestly shortsighted for the situation. You assume that a person who is mentally and psychologically as well as physically abused their entire lives are somehow supposed to understand the mature, right, logical answers to their impossible situations. You impose upon them the wisdom and maturity that comes from experiences they have never had. You expect them to make the choices you would make but they don't know how until they learn, which they have never done. You act like the right answer is so obvious but unless your reality and training have been twisted beyond recognition from the time you were born, you do not understand. She did not know the obvious, she did not have the luxury of knowing the right, she didn't even realize the wrong she was doing was not the right way to handle it. I'm sorry, but your answers are shortsighted. There's a very good reason that she did not do all those logical and obvious things you suggested. It's because she was never taught those obvious answers. She was never taught that it was her place in life to receive or choose those obvious answers. Her reaction is a reaction to a situation you will never understand, and she was not blessed with the tools to see the world and her situation and her options the way that you can see them so clearly. That's what Munchausen by proxy does. It doesn't just physically harm the recipient of the abuse, it trains them to believe the reality they live is the right way for them. It affects their own view of themselves and of the world and their place in it. It completely warps a belief of truth and lies, right and wrong, that are utterly twisted and that's what you live with from the moment you're born. She was not given the tools to see that obvious answer like you were, or even to recognize that the right answer belongs to her in the first place. To look in from the outside and expect a normal reaction from anyone who has been treated like this for so long is, as I say, shortsighted.
You sure don’t have the right to murder people, so…
All of this! Spot on!
That would be a good point if I suggested murder was the obvious answer. My point is that nothing is obvious to someone whose perspective has been twisted to that degree, and oversimplifying what she "could have done" assumes a perspective she was literally trained from birth to ignore for herself.
No, I don't know what should have happened, or what she truly should have or could have done. But I do absolutely know that she had far less ability to see or recognize obvious answers, let alone believe in her world that those obvious answers were actually meant for her. I do know that throwing out the simplistic answers about what she really could have done in her case is short-sighted.
Reporters and editorialists need to treat this with more wisdom, because it's more complicated than any pat answers that people say who have never themselves suffered the twisting, perspective-destroying psyche alterations that occur under the hands of a parent with Munchausen by proxy.
@@claudettewright365 Thank you! You make me feel less alone in my perspective. It's such a sad case.
@@satiashaw1857 People who can’t appreciate the complex psychology of the situation are extremely uneducated and are basing their opinions on what THEY (people without said complex psychology) would do. Plus, hindsight is 20/20. It’s easy for people to look back after something happened to say what they “would’ve” done.
Would've the cops believed her or would they have believed the mother since she has a medical background they would believe that the daughter was not mentally well too?
I don't believe we'll ever know the full scope of the abuse Gypsy went through. I say that because there is a crazy rumor about what the family did with the mother's remains. And, that alone tells me the abuse was worse than what was reported. Yes, Gypsy is free, but her boyfriend isn't. Abuse always ropes in additional victims.
It’s not a rumor. DeeDee’s father and stepmother literally said on camera in one of the documentaries that they flushed her ashes down the toilet. That should tell you something…
Every adult in Gypsy's life failed her and she did the only thing that she thought she could do. She couldn't go to the authorities because her mother had her convinced that she would be blamed for everything her mom lied about. The girl was scared to go to someone else for help. Especially when everyone around you suspects something but does nothing to help. Gypsy shouldn't have spent one minute behind bars.
" if you don't like the drama between you and your mom" there are other things you could do.' Wtf. Cenk and Ana should have thought this video though a bit better. To call this "drama" is not correct. Geeze.. I will keep it simple and leave it at that. From looking at other comments it seems like most people are on the same page with this one.
Don't say anything about psychological condition. The abuse leading to an instability in her young mind and thought process in dealing with the situation her monstrous mother forced her into is the only point to this story.
Wouldn't think twice if someone was torturing me. Doesn't matter that the woman who had a baby was a psychopath, Side with the abused 10 out of 10.
Prison is the last thing the young *and* abused need. Counseling and a supportive local community is the way.
Even GYPSY admits that she didn’t have to kill her mother and that she regrets it. She could’ve gone to authorities and the mother would’ve been imprisoned…. Instead the mother is dead, Gypsy ended up in prison for 8 years and her then bf will spend the rest of his life in prison.
@@jordyb57 And you honestly think that she is or were in such a mental state that she could have come to that conclusion? After having been brainwashed her whole life? You don't think it's more logical that she is just repeating thing that have been said to her?
@@jordyb57 At least Gypsy acknowledged that she was a monster and that prison was better than trapped in an abusive household.
I don’t approve what happened to her mother. But you have to understand from baby days her abuse began. Her mother had everyone convinced that Gypsy was intellectually disabled, younger than she was, had cancer, didn’t go to school. Gypsy tried to go to the police. Her mother was a master manipulator she convinced them Gypsy was a minor plus very low intelligence. How the heck would Gypsy know how to get out? She was isolated her whole life. She couldn’t see any other way out. Her boyfriend should have known this was wrong and pleaded to The authorities. She was failed by medical, school systems, law, and her mother. She couldn’t rely on anyone to help her to get out.
In Gypsy’s eyes she was free from her torturer so good for her
You just got finished saying the mother had conned the medical "authorities" -- who, by the way are relied upon by the police. ...AND your advice is to go to the very authorities who had participated in her abuse. The "authorities" should be doing time for their negligence.