There was probably a fake news article claiming the 9mm is the most deadly cartridge but they don't take the widespread popularity of 9mm handguns into account compared to others. I had a statistics class in college and depending on what you put in or leave out you can make up just about anything and say its statistically Proven, which is a favorite thing of the fake news media to do. For example, Eating ice cream is statistically linked to drowning deaths. Idiots will be afraid to eat ice cream ever again, but in reality its just because more ice cream is eaten in warm weather and people swim more in warm weather. Technically its a true statement but the correct statement would be warm weather is linked to drowning deaths.
I've had first person experience with both calibers in lethal encounters. There is no comparison in stopping power of the 357 mag. That 357 mag terminated the fire fight immediately. The 9mm, with almost identical bullet placement, still allowed the actor to return fire. Requiring additional follow up shots. This a grim subject and should not be discussed lightly. Just my opinion. Paul, that was a very professional presentation. Good Work!
Do you think it’s safe to say that it was the bigger caliber or was it just shot placement ? Because one scenario doesn’t mean that 357 has more one stop shots. Someone else could get on here n say well I one stopped someone with a 9mm before. Someone’s gonna say they’ve seen a one shot with a 22 you know. I think it’s hard to compare based on one or two scenarios
*two grocery clerks on look from a distance* GC1: "Hey, who's that guy? Hes here like three times a week." GC2: "I have no idea , but he must really like pork ribs and watermelon."
@@ivangucec9508 you nailed it. I love both, and if I can grill some pork ribs and eat some watermelon while shooting ribs and watermelon, that is the kitties titties.
.357 seems like a best all around pistol round. Lots of power, swappable with .38, reasonable recoil, good in carbines and a variety of bullet weights.
You should mention that it’s a one-way swap: .38 Special is happy in a .357 receiver. The casing of.357 (Thankfully) won’t fit in a.38 Special, or the would probably be numerous reports of cylinders exploding! You just *know* that some idiot would try it, like those who put smokeless power in cap and ball black powder revolvers! 😅
@@monkmoto1887Definitely and not only that but they are also priced similar too. Only big difference is that 10mm is harsher on the gun than 357 Mag is.
@@richardsilva-spokane3436 just think how pissed off she would be if she asked him to pickup pork ribs and watermelon for the party she was throwing. But he figured he was getting ready for his next video and instead of taking them home for her he shoots them instead. Would that qualify for someone sleeping on the couch or filling for divorce?
Grow up son, there's no need for immature vulgarity. Notice Paul does not act this way, which should give you a clue how a real man of moral character conducts himself.
TheFew: Wrong. That middle finger was fully intentional and meant for comedic effect. You sound a little uptight, you should learn how to relax or you're gonna pop a vein. Hopefully Paul chimes in here and removes all doubt.
@@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 I've shot a lot with 9mm semis, and not a whole lot with my 357, but hitting shots is way easier with my revolver even with super hot (like 125gr at 1800fps hot) loads than any 9mm I've used or owned. As always, it is more about what you are comfortable with than anything else.
Allen Atkins I was shot with a 22 and that was not fun either, luckily for me the round had passed through a hard target before striking me in the thigh.
Thank you. Received my first 357 at 15 yrs old, a retired Indiana State Police issue handed down. Have carried a Ruger 357 full time since my 18th birthday. In 45 yrs the caliber has never let me down.
Great video Paul! Thanks for dispelling the ridiculous myths going around. No way a 9mm will ever approach the power of a 357. You showed this with concrete, clear and repeatable tests and explained everything thoroughly. Thank you. Great channel
When I watch his videos, I feel like I applied for a job, got the job, went to orientation and watched a training video. This guy really makes you interested in listening. His wide range of vocabulary and soft speech really drives his intellect into over drive. Also, I wonder if he can pull a new car out of his jacket pocket. That thing is magic.
"Don't try this at home, I'm what you'd call a professional" when you read that it sounds cocky but when I hear you say it in the video it doesn't sound that way at all. I really appreciate your perspectives and the amount of time and effort you put into making this. You clearly are very knowledgable and I really enjoyed this video.
357 is a beast! Both will get the job done. People like 9's for the amount of ammo they carry. Carry what you want, just practice and be good with it. A well placed 22 is more effective than a 357 that misses.
A lot of LE agencies rushed to the 9mm for more rounds and ease of shooting for smaller (femalE / MALE) Officers. I carried a .357 revolver for the first few years of my LE career and NEVER felt i was "outgunned".
Yes, I'm doing the same - watching videos made before the government stripped away our God-given rights and we could get out and make a buck. Video watching is my occupation since totalitarianism hit.
This entire comment section wins UA-cam, just too funny. You know you're a success when you draw a good quality crowd like this: respectful AND humorous.
I’ve only just found this channel in the past couple of days, but I have to say I love the content. No BS, no flash, no agenda, just the facts as they exist. More content should be like this.
@@becomematrix I wouldn't call it fairly large. But it does allow you to get a full purchase on the grip. It's easily concealable in the waistband with good holsters.
Hickock45 did a review of the Ruger .450 Bushmaster rifle. One shot from that into a cinder block completely powdered the middle of the block, and the intact top piece just fell straight down. Devastating!
@@bigol9223 yeah except that there's science behind that fact and even uncle Paul would agree that climate change DOES exist. Yeah, I agree that they sometimes mislead to make it look worse than it is, but denying it completely is idiocy, and you make all gun owners look bad by doing it. You really think that every scientist today is collectively working together for some conspiracy? That's as idiotic as saying the 9 is more powerful than the .357.
Thanks sir - I own both 357 and 9mm and like both - but the 357 does seem to have the edge on raw power and I concur with your demonstration results. Thanks - always a great presentation!
I’ve personally taken gallon water jugs and froze them; then put samples of level 2 ballistic vests taped on to them and tested various ammunition. The 357 always did the most damage out of calibers that are primarily accepted as personal defense calibers. The vest always stopped the round; but the ice was destroyed! 🤠
I can still remember shooting a .357 magnum for the first time on pistol night at my local range. The difference in power was obvious and astounding...bought one the next week.
Bought an 8 inch 357 for hunting. Some yrs later got a 2 inch for carry. At indoor range, the range officer quickly came to see what I was shooting. The sound, muzzle flash, & recoil is attention getting. Now use 38 special in the 2". Much more easy to control.
My dad and his best friend/gun dealer back in ‘89 selected a Ruger Security Six 6” .357 mag as my first gun. I was somewhat disappointed as I wanted a semi. 30 years later....Thanks to both I hold that firearm as my personal favorite for both power, accuracy and reliability. Its also nice at the range to shoot .38 special. Love the .357 mag caliber.
My favorite firearm is my first handgun, at 14, a S&W M27, 6.5" barrel. I've had it 50 years, and it's still the most impressive, accurate, and beautiful gun of all. I've cloverleafed 5/6 shots, with a flyer 2" high, at 15 yards. I sighted it in at 50 yards. No question about the psychological effects of it, either.
Paul, I want to thank you for all the time you have invested in your videos. They are by far the best, most informative and entertaining videos out there. Also your style brings me back to the old days (1960s-70s) when hunters were regular, nice guys without an ego. They respect their weapons, and knew how to use them... THasnk
And .44 Remington Magnum is a beast compared to .357 Magnum. I shoot well with all three, including the 9mm. I prefer to carry .357 Magnum as concealed carry, simply because a single shot will drop an assailant more effectively than 9mm. i.e. I only need to shoot 'Once', in a typical self defense scenario with just one assailant.
@@Der-gute-vegane-Hirte it physically cannot keep up with the .357, the bullet weights and longer case capacity will always give the .357 mag an edge over the 9mm and it's variants. While there may overlap that doesn't translate to both cartridges loaded to their full potential.
@@Sean_Regan The data doesn't back that up. 9 mm is an excellent caliber and probably the most reasonable choice for self-defense in a concealed carry role. But it is just on the edge with terminal performance. 9 mm hollow points are not created equal. and it really matters who you shoot and where you shoot them and how many times. I would suggest you go watch a channel called active self-protection and just see how many videos there are people being shot with any handgun caliber with hollow points multiple times. One shot and down is almost never what you see with anything. In the US at least over 80% of people in recorded instances of being shot with a handgun survive. Generally it's closer to 87% and varies by year. It's pretty much the reverse for a long arms. this isn't saying 9 mm a useless caliber or that some other caliber would make all the difference it's actually saying that most of the calibers are mostly useless, and the critical thing is having enough shots in the right place until something stops. There's no magic bullet and there's no magic caliber.
@@GunFunZS there’s no fucking way in hell 87% of people shot with handguns survive, that’s asinine as fucking shit. And yes a 9mm COULD one shot drop somebody. A .44 magnum most likely WOULD. Any data that suggests otherwise is most likely complete bullshit, just like Paul said in this video (not believing what he reads), at least regarding the .44 magnum. There’s no way most people who would get shot by that gun would be getting back up or surviving.
@@SuperD00D you can call it asinine but it's facts. Most people who are shot do not get hit in the heart or central nervous system. And so long as they are within driving range of a hospital they are probably not going to bleed to death. This is a statistic which is tracked. Is verifiable information. By the same token it is falsifiable information. Don't yell about your feelings about it, find the data to prove me false.
Love it when some of your older videos pop up on my list - consistently great info This analysis was perfect - if the unfortunate event occurred where i had to draw and fire- you demonstrated why my instinct is to have my. 357 as primary and 9m as a back up or covering fire escape tool
I have no military service in my history, and only limited experience in law enforcement. But I was rolling with laughter when I heard Paul saying: the 9mm being just as effective as a 357 Magnum. As I have shot both, and remembered some of the stories I heard from my military friends, with their experiences with the 9mm in combat situations. And my own experiences. So I am in complete agreement with Paul. Is a 9mm effective? Yes. Is it as effective as a 357magnum? NO!
Great demonstration. Thank you Paul. 357mag for the win. I was a kid in the 1960's. I was always in awe of the 357 when dad took us kids to Saunders Heights; our small town shooting range, and someone would pull out a 357 mag pistol. Loud ! I'm talking crowd pleasers for a kid.
In plain English, he does not use hype or gimmicks and does not give you any information you don't need. He deep-sixed the premise of 9mm v 357 magnum. 9mm is fine and the shooter can have up to 18 rounds in a magazine. The 357 sig 125 grain is in the neighborhood of a 125 grain 357 magnum but that's it. The 357 Sig holds 15 rounds in a Glock and a 40 cal Glock can be converted to 357 Sig with a barrel and spring change. If 357 magnums had sub $1,000 auto platforms they would be popular. Not everyone has the $$$ to get a Coonan or Desert Eagle.
I think so many guys are drawn to this channel because although the vids were posted not long ago, the style of video is nostalgic. I know I get that feeling. Brings back memories.
He doesn't bullshit. He brings more to the table in experience and wisdom than anybody else I've seen on UA-cam for firearms. That's why I love the channel.
This morning I had a self-defense situation, not with a person but with an adult male black bear (that we believe was rabid), and I was very happy that I was carrying a .357 Mag (w/ StJHP). In fact, the only thing that would have made me happier was carrying my .44 Mag. It charged me and I got off 3 shots before it started to slow and pitch ~9 meters away, and then I emptied the revolver into the target and reloaded with a speed loader. The shot that made the difference was a hit right above its right eye, I believe it was the 2nd, that fully penetrated into its skull. I'm not sure a 9mm would have been enough to stop it before it reached me. BTW, practice, practice, practice combat reloads. I was pleased that I reloaded smoothly (for me) without even really thinking about it, due to lots of practice.
Glad you survived to tell the tale. I have been trying to decide what firearm would be best for my first. Still undecided but the information is very helpful. Thank you!
@@IluvinortheIneffable For a first gun? Yes, hard to say, if you want a one and done gun, yea, a 9mm or higher, but if you plan on getting more guns, a 9mm is good for learning how to shoot, it's a middle ground, ammo isn't as expensive, and you get decent training with recoil and so on, but, there's also .22s out there, you won't really learn how to shoot bigger guns, but if you want to have fun or throw a million round down range to learn how to aim and how to deal with malfunctions(I've never had a many malfunctions as i do on my 22s) and not lay awake at night thinking about your wallet, you'll definitely get what you want there
Lol dude my guy you’re talking about a full grown adult bear that’s 10×20 times stronger than the average adult male that’s like talking about a primate a monkey they’re a lot stronger than the average male and a little stronger than I physically and shape mail anyways the average objective that you would really be up against in risky defensive bad situation is an adult male or female you don’t really need a real powerful gun like that to stop a wimpy objective pretty much one shot from any gun. The average purple if it can hit the target depen what person has heha lol but hey I love mr my negs bby^ and ong so I ight mad at u
Theory meets practice. Great video. Since Paul is firing essentially the same projectile at a much higher velocity from the .357, you'd expect the real world results Paul got. For me, it boils down to auto vs revolver. "You be the judge".
The kinetic energy (KE) of the rounds as tested show the .357 generates between 1.4 to 1.7 times the KE of the 9mm. Effectiveness is more complex, as ability to hit the target in a vital spot is key. But assuming all else being equal, 0357 is much more powerful.
i'm getting 1300 fps out of 185 grains with 45 acp. i know 1400 fps is doable @ 185, but i don't want to stress the pistol like that because the fireball is real. 5" govt 1911 btw
Thank you Paul, love your videos. I'm still relatively new to guns. bought a Ruger SP101 about 5 months ago, , and, I'm all-in, love it! Your videos are truly entertaining and instructional!
BIG fan of these Paul Harrell videos and how he explains ballistics, mechanicals of the firearms and real world scenarios for personal/home defense. I had to sort through a lot of UA-cam amateurs to find an expert like Paul and I'm so glad I did.
This is much like the 10mm crowd who was claiming 10mm was just as powerful as the 44magnum. While 10mm is a great cartridge, it's not as powerful at the 44mag, not even close. Same as 9mm vs 357magnum. The magnum always wins. Best gun channel on youtube.
You citing what you have personally used and tested, and showing it to us, is why your channel is the best. I have a Security Six .357 like yours (from about 1971) , but I carry a snub-nosed thirty-eight most of the time, and otherwise a G26 (9mm). .357 IS a very powerful cartridge, but not so practical for me, unless I'm walking in the woods, which isn't all that often.
I did not hear him say it was not as practical. I must have missed that, Roy. I heard him say more powerful and effective, but that was in reference to the .357. Reloading and more magazine capacity is for those who miss more shots than Paul, it appears. Personally, I am a terrible shot at 25 yards with a sidearm, but I think I can hit a 3" target while flustered at 21 feet without my glasses.
Sir this demonstration is amazing, I enjoyed this 100%. The meat target is the best example on the web of how effective a bullet can be, IMO at least. The .357 is just simply a far more powerful bullet. When you use the word "effective" as the other guy you mentioned did, that opens a whole new can of worms. I feel something like a Ruger LCR in .22LR can be totally "effective" for a self defense weapon, even though obviously the "power" isn't anywhere close at all to either of these two calibers you just demonstrated.
I remember reading one in depth analysis of police involved shootings with different calibers and the results. The "best" was apparently a 125 grain projectile out of a .357, with a 96% "one-stop shot" result.
Paul Harrell is definitely my #1 favorite gun guys one UA-cam 💯 he explains things very well, is very knowledgeable I just love watching his videos! Always answers my questions without me still wondering at the end. Thank you sir! 👍👏👏
Great video. Paul saves me a fortune in ammo with his studies. They are well thought out and entertaining. The only disagreement I have is when he warns us that his talking part may be boring. I find his comments are logical and extremely well thought out. You keep making videos and I'll keep watching.
Shooting a .22LR indoors without hearing protection is a stupid idea, much less .357mag. Put a pair of amplified hearing protection muffs next to your nightstand. When that bump happens in the night, the first thing you do is pop on the muffs and turn up the volume. Then grab your iron.
Paul- you have the hands down most informative gun channel on UA-cam. Heck if I count your Zombie video maybe the most informative dental health channel as well. Thank you for the videos and knowledge.
If anyone tells you that 9mm is just as powerful as .357 magnum, just take them to the range and let them shoot the hottest 9mm they can find, then give them the hottest .357 magnum you can find. Even the stuff from walmart can be pretty toasty for .357 mag.
R Re haha, I have a Ruger Security Six 4 inch in ss and my buddy has a 92f exactly what Paul was shooting today. I let him shoot my 357 loaded with 158 grain Magtechs. He was like "wholly hell, it felt like someone was slapping me in the face. That recoil is ridiculous!"
Right! And if you check out the Duty ammo for PDs and Feds that are switching back to the 9mm, it’s some pretty hot stuff! +p+ is some loads and not available to the public. Nor is it very fun to shoot in a pistol for CCW, ie small and pocketable. I will stick to my 40SW and 357mag.
lol yes. Firing a 9mm is pretty much fun. .357 kicks bigtime and is like a cannon with what I have tried with it. I was firing medium power loads and it was sick. Firing cans and rotten fruit, but I missed and hit the big log they were on and split the log.
357 mag edges the Sig pretty handily in the 125 gr load but where the comparison ends are the heavier loads of 158 to 180. 357 mag all day, every day. However in terms of the high capacity auto loader design of the Sig, it wins the comparison in the long run due to speed of use and shootability. IMHO.
btube325 ~ oh right! The old “only on paper” argument. I can tell you facts, hard ones at that. Underwood’s 180 gr hard cast gas check 357 load clocks a tick over 1400 FPS from my 4” 686+. This is making a crushing 780lb ft of energy. Am I missing something? Do you know of a comparible 357 Sig load? On paper maybe? Get real, son...
When my department (OCSD, CA) went from .38 Special revolver to 9mm semi-auto, I embraced the change. We also went from carrying 18 .38 Special rounds to 46 9mm rounds (as well as more rounds before reloading). Later, the department went from S&W 9mm to Glock 9mm, increasing the payload to 52 rounds of 9mm. Much later, the department went to a 3 pouch magazine carrier. That gave it an even bigger boost to 69 rounds. The biggest advantage was more rounds and quicker reloads. Shortly after getting the 9mm, jacketed hollow point ammunition was approved. The .38 special was the Keith semi-wadcutter and speed loaders were used. Your videos are always done well, professionally and concisely. You are at the top of my short list of reviewers that I prefer.
Depending on your department and the numbers of officers 69 rounds may seem like a lot, and some not enough. Rural officers who may be alone with backup 15 to 30 minutes away wants to be prepared. Always being prepared is how you keep the edge. I knew deputies that carried scoped mini 14's because farmers have scoped deer rifles and more. I knew others who only had shotguns. That's the way the world is. Its becoming more violent and the officers must be prepared to meet those threats. Next time you have to call 911 think about those officers there to help you or to help another. To assume they will be "throwing around 9mm in every direction" is asinine.
I love how you guys have that quote above the firing range " speed is good but acurracy is everything" by Wyatt Earp if i am correct...SAPD and OCSD good at law enforcement and community relations
When this guy pulls the snubby out of his pocket, I immediately imagined him in a dark alley, calmly speaking to someone attempting a robbery, and doing exactly that. Loved this video and the thought out information. Thank you for this
So, if i did that, when SHTF I'd not be sure if the gun in my hand has a safety or not. Pick one great gun that you, your wife, your adult children love, buy everyone that model, pick one bullet, buy everyone a box. When SHTF , your family may all hunker down in one house and all will know how to operate everyone's piece. Like armies do it. One gun only ? That's all the nam sgt gave me , i gave it back a year later.
Another Great Presentation! I just ordered a Ruger GP100 357 magnum with a 4” barrel today. I had the tracking number before I even got home from my FFL !! Doing the Happy Dance!
I've watched this particular presentation a few times. Still as informative and entertaining. The issue that strikes me as having high significance is defining the parameters of performance for the elements of focus- The specific firearms utilized; cartridge configuration, strategy or tactics, ad astra. Paul and very few others across the YT universe provide the viewers with objective information with attention retaining presentation. Subjective views are kept to a minimum and are primarily used to fill in gaps that data or statistics can not adequately address. I've been impressed as to how Mr. H. and his crew manage to produce presentations on a regular basis when many other production 'companies' run out of ways to grow the audience after a few dozen episodes.
Outstanding demostration paul. I have both 357 and 9mm. My edc during the week i carry my either my taurus 509 9mm revolver or my glock 19. Both loaded with gold dot +p. And for my weekend adventures like night fishing or camping i carry my 6 inch ruger GP100 IN 357 MAG. I load it with buffalo bore jhp. It gets a little spooky around 1am in the woods by myself lol. Never know sasquatch could be real 😆
I haven't commented on any of your videos, but it's not because I don't admire your skills and analysis, which are comprehensive, accurate and freaking funny! Very entertaining and informative. You sir are an excellent instructor.
Hello Paul my name is M E Wilson SR. I just want to say what a great presentation that you have put together and put out here online I really appreciate it and it taught me a lot about the reasoning and testing on Firearms thank you so much and I look forward to your next publication thank you so much!!
.357 more powerful 9mm is effective, somewhat less likely to over penetrate, easier on the hands to shoot, less expensive ( you can practice more ), usually in a semi-auto that holds more ammo and is faster to reload, and a bit easier to conceal. If it is a defensive weapon, select the one that gives you the best chance of getting a round on target.
Truly appreciate the edification that you display in everyone of these videos to those that just don’t get it thank you sir God bless you and yours abundantly
Thanks Paul. Ive gone back to carrying .357 mag for this reason. And, I'm actually using the same ammo used here. Old tech, still effective. Of most self defense rounds, I think and its been said that .357 magnum has the best potential to cause a 1 shot stop. This clearly shows why.
Paul video was relevant 6 years ago and still is relevant today. This man is a legend.
"I found their methods sloppy and their conclusions highly questionable."
Paul Harrell's way of saying: "Those guys were friggin' idiots..."
I wonder who they were...
Ghostbusters !
Paul is shooting watermelons and guessing that damage looks similar
There was probably a fake news article claiming the 9mm is the most deadly cartridge but they don't take the widespread popularity of 9mm handguns into account compared to others. I had a statistics class in college and depending on what you put in or leave out you can make up just about anything and say its statistically Proven, which is a favorite thing of the fake news media to do. For example, Eating ice cream is statistically linked to drowning deaths. Idiots will be afraid to eat ice cream ever again, but in reality its just because more ice cream is eaten in warm weather and people swim more in warm weather. Technically its a true statement but the correct statement would be warm weather is linked to drowning deaths.
@@mattwalters6834 CNN
“🖕🏻 that’s just not true.”
Paul you just became my hero.
Paul been my hero and thats just true.
At 5:44, I saw that too😂
Yeah I caught that too.
Perfect 👌🏻
At 5:43 Paul l gives us the finger 🖕
I've had first person experience with both calibers in lethal encounters. There is no comparison in stopping power of the 357 mag. That 357 mag terminated the fire fight immediately. The 9mm, with almost identical bullet placement, still allowed the actor to return fire. Requiring additional follow up shots. This a grim subject and should not be discussed lightly. Just my opinion. Paul, that was a very professional presentation. Good Work!
Do you think it’s safe to say that it was the bigger caliber or was it just shot placement ? Because one scenario doesn’t mean that 357 has more one stop shots. Someone else could get on here n say well I one stopped someone with a 9mm before. Someone’s gonna say they’ve seen a one shot with a 22 you know. I think it’s hard to compare based on one or two scenarios
Holy shit dude where do you live?
He said actor?is he sarcastic? Not sure how to read in to this
@@Stretch213 bad actor I believe. Not film actor
@@Stretch213 you’re thinking too hard
You're my favorite youtuber Paul. No politics, no bullshit, just guns.
thumbs up to your comment all the way
If I could only give this more than one thumbs up.
Agree 100%
Everything is political. Imo
Anchor Bait LOL that is ridiculous. I think Paul has an answer for that. It's at 5:42
*two grocery clerks on look from a distance*
GC1: "Hey, who's that guy? Hes here like three times a week."
GC2: "I have no idea , but he must really like pork ribs and watermelon."
And those soda jugs, he drinks 20 gallons a week.
GC1: "Cool jacket though."
GC2: "Oh absolutely."
Meanwhile the clerks at Homedepot think he's building a wall two blocks at a time
But then again, who doesnt really like pork ribs and watermelon...
@@ivangucec9508 you nailed it. I love both, and if I can grill some pork ribs and eat some watermelon while shooting ribs and watermelon, that is the kitties titties.
.357 seems like a best all around pistol round. Lots of power, swappable with .38, reasonable recoil, good in carbines and a variety of bullet weights.
You should mention that it’s a one-way swap: .38 Special is happy in a .357 receiver. The casing of.357 (Thankfully) won’t fit in a.38 Special, or the would probably be numerous reports of cylinders exploding! You just *know* that some idiot would try it, like those who put smokeless power in cap and ball black powder revolvers! 😅
10mm is much better. 44mag is just unfair
@@WattsUpTez10mm 10mm is basically a 357 in an autoloader when you look at the ballistics across bullet weights they compare well
@@monkmoto1887Definitely and not only that but they are also priced similar too. Only big difference is that 10mm is harsher on the gun than 357 Mag is.
Oh, another idiot that dont know what "all around" means
Imagine being Mr. Harrell's significant other never being able to find a blanket without a bullet hole in it
Nah, Paul almost definitely has a sewing kit and spool of thread in one of those pockets for on the fly repairs
…or pork ribs, for that matter 😆
She covers up with high tech fleece?😁🤣
@@richardsilva-spokane3436 just think how pissed off she would be if she asked him to pickup pork ribs and watermelon for the party she was throwing. But he figured he was getting ready for his next video and instead of taking them home for her he shoots them instead. Would that qualify for someone sleeping on the couch or filling for divorce?
He saved her life by putting a bullet hole in her would be murderer, so I’m sure she copes well with the blanket situation.
"One that's just not true" raise middle finger*
You are hilarious Paul Harrell. I enjoy your videos.
BigK heh! noticed that too :))
His humor hits me just right every time. That made me smile lol.
I don't ever want Paul to just tell me one thing ...
Grow up son, there's no need for immature vulgarity. Notice Paul does not act this way, which should give you a clue how a real man of moral character conducts himself.
TheFew: Wrong. That middle finger was fully intentional and meant for comedic effect. You sound a little uptight, you should learn how to relax or you're gonna pop a vein.
Hopefully Paul chimes in here and removes all doubt.
I love how he always has a dozen or so guns in his pockets.
LOL... A dozen or so.... HAHAHAHA!
Paul's shooting blouses are made of felix the cat 60's handbag material
"Paul, what's your EDC?"
"Everything."
his pockets lead directly to Neo's armory in the 1st Matrix
He has all the guns in his pockets. You only see a dozen because that's all he chooses to use for any given demonstration.
I like how your videos give off a 70's vibe
Only if you weren't there. I don't get that at all.
@@craigbenz4835 I see what he's saying.
I’d credit the audio and his speaking for that. Pretty cool.
"One: That's just not true" as he extends his middle finger. Gotta love it!
Love how you put the best 9mm ammo against the worst .357 ammo to really drive the point home.
That 125 grain Remington load has been the gold standard .357 magnum since the 1970s.
@Nytmstr What about Underwood's +P loads with copper slugs?
9mm is easier to shoot than 357. It's especially so in compact carry. For personal protection, power means nothing if you can't hit the target.
@@curtislynch8189 Don't know about the gun shops near you but, in my area, 158 grain 357 loads are more common than the 125.
@@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 I've shot a lot with 9mm semis, and not a whole lot with my 357, but hitting shots is way easier with my revolver even with super hot (like 125gr at 1800fps hot) loads than any 9mm I've used or owned.
As always, it is more about what you are comfortable with than anything else.
I was hit with a .32 acp, I can attest I don't like being shot.
Harry Peterson I’m thinking you should retry that as an adult !!!
I was hit my a 7.62 :( went straight thru muscle tho got lucky. Off topic I know but I don't get to share it often. Awkward conversation starter :)
Did you survive?
Negativity if you brought that up in conversation with someone they might say “weird flex but okay.”
Allen Atkins I was shot with a 22 and that was not fun either, luckily for me the round had passed through a hard target before striking me in the thigh.
Thank you. Received my first 357 at 15 yrs old, a retired Indiana State Police issue handed down. Have carried a Ruger 357 full time since my 18th birthday. In 45 yrs the caliber has never let me down.
Great video Paul! Thanks for dispelling the ridiculous myths going around. No way a 9mm will ever approach the power of a 357. You showed this with concrete, clear and repeatable tests and explained everything thoroughly. Thank you. Great channel
Except is approached it easily. Both are handgun rounds not designed for power and both are weak.
@Alen725 357 mag is a legal round for deer hunting here. Not sure how you consider that weak.
@@Alen725lmao 357 is NOT weak
@@iCookCrystalMeth LMAO hahahhaha dude its roughly half the power of .223, its a strong round for you? Hahahaha.
@@Alen725 okay carry a handgun in .223 then big guy and leave us alone, we're clearly not worthy of that golden input from depths of your genius
When I took my concealed carry class the instructor said, "If you want knock down power get a '57 Buick".
He meant "357 Buick". ;0)
Sorry my 64 Rambler downhill just as good.
@Nytmstr that has to be the response on this thread. Ha ha.
Sorry. The best response. Laughing to hard.
Good stuff lol
When I watch his videos, I feel like I applied for a job, got the job, went to orientation and watched a training video. This guy really makes you interested in listening. His wide range of vocabulary and soft speech really drives his intellect into over drive. Also, I wonder if he can pull a new car out of his jacket pocket. That thing is magic.
U must have an interesting job if you liked your training videos
@@walterwilliams1791 you must have the opposite if you don't like yours.. its really about learning now, isn't it ??
"Don't try this at home, I'm what you'd call a professional" when you read that it sounds cocky but when I hear you say it in the video it doesn't sound that way at all. I really appreciate your perspectives and the amount of time and effort you put into making this. You clearly are very knowledgable and I really enjoyed this video.
22.: "I think I've been shot..."
380: "Ah! I've been shot!"
9mm: "Aaaaaaaagh!"
45 ACP/ 357 Magnum: *Silence*
You my friend…are correct. 💪🏿💪🏿
..not only "that, and the terrible-noise+sense of shocking.
357 is a beast! Both will get the job done. People like 9's for the amount of ammo they carry. Carry what you want, just practice and be good with it. A well placed 22 is more effective than a 357 that misses.
A lot of LE agencies rushed to the 9mm for more rounds and ease of shooting for smaller (femalE / MALE) Officers. I carried a .357 revolver for the first few years of my LE career and NEVER felt i was "outgunned".
@@MC-td4ol 357's aren't too snappy. My 11 yr old likes to shoot mine.
If both .22 LR and .357 hit the same point ,I'm pick .357 for sure.
martin conte Did you ever have to actually shoot?
Brian Partlow duh
What a great time (corona times) to catch up with all of Paul's video that I have not seen yet.
Beer* time ;)
Yes, I'm doing the same - watching videos made before the government stripped away our God-given rights and we could get out and make a buck. Video watching is my occupation since totalitarianism hit.
I assume you are talking about the Mexican beer company? Wink wink
@@danielaramburo7648 Sure, I hope soon we'll be able to have Heineken again, as usual ;)
yet to even discover him in the time of beer is something of itself
This entire comment section wins UA-cam, just too funny.
You know you're a success when you draw a good quality crowd like this: respectful AND humorous.
I’ve only just found this channel in the past couple of days, but I have to say I love the content. No BS, no flash, no agenda, just the facts as they exist. More content should be like this.
I conceal a 9mm every single day. But I also know it's place in the food chain.
What kind of pistol?
@@becomematrix Glock 19 or a Sig P365
@@jra5624 thats a fairly large gun to conceal even but a good gun in that respect.
@@becomematrix I wouldn't call it fairly large. But it does allow you to get a full purchase on the grip. It's easily concealable in the waistband with good holsters.
@@jra5624 yes alright. But as an item for daily carry I would feel constrained with a full size glock.
If Mr. Harrell has taught me anything, it's that I'm taking 44 mag when I go hunting for concrete blocks.
Bwahh hahh hahh hahh
From what I understand cinder blocks are very TRICKY and SNEAKY to hunt. but I understand when they're mounted they look GOOD on the DEN wall
@@joeyoung4121 I got one with my 300 Weatherby magnum, but there was nothing left edible. Plus, the wife vacuumed up my trophy.
Practice making multiple shots, as cinder blocks in the wild are often found in packs.
Hickock45 did a review of the Ruger .450 Bushmaster rifle. One shot from that into a cinder block completely powdered the middle of the block, and the intact top piece just fell straight down. Devastating!
Paul is what I call a professional 100%
If you don't " Love" or at Least "Respect" Mr.Paul Harrell ..chances are you can't be my Friend.
I bought the wrong gun because I listened too much to "stopping power" zealots. The fact is, the gun you can shoot better is the better gun.
If you want real stopping power get a shotgun.
The most effective, in my opinion, is the gun you are comfortable with and the one you can actually put rounds on the target.
Robert Norman very true. But you can learn to shoot 12 gauge buckshot well.
You can change loads, but guns are easy to sell so consider getting something you do want.
@@oklahomahank2378 Yeah, but every time I carry my shotgun concealed I get strange looks for some reason. Especially when I appendix carry.
"I find their methods sloppy and their conclusion questionable"
I swear I will ind a time and place to use this line
Me when a woke corporation tells me I need to pay more taxes for climate change
Ghostbusters quote?
David Squires rip egon
Any time the Democrats open their mouths is a good time to say it. 👍🇺🇸
@@bigol9223 yeah except that there's science behind that fact and even uncle Paul would agree that climate change DOES exist. Yeah, I agree that they sometimes mislead to make it look worse than it is, but denying it completely is idiocy, and you make all gun owners look bad by doing it. You really think that every scientist today is collectively working together for some conspiracy? That's as idiotic as saying the 9 is more powerful than the .357.
Thanks sir - I own both 357 and 9mm and like both - but the 357 does seem to have the edge on raw power and I concur with your demonstration results. Thanks - always a great presentation!
There's really no edge, he's using some pretty weak-loaded 357 ammo
I’ve personally taken gallon water jugs and froze them; then put samples of level 2 ballistic vests taped on to them and tested various ammunition. The 357 always did the most damage out of calibers that are primarily accepted as personal defense calibers. The vest always stopped the round; but the ice was destroyed! 🤠
I can still remember shooting a .357 magnum for the first time on pistol night at my local range. The difference in power was obvious and astounding...bought one the next week.
@Austin Duke LOL
Did you wait so long because you were waiting for enough hearing to return that you could interact with the clerk at your LGS?
357 in a big gun is fun. Not so sure how fun in a snubbie
Bought an 8 inch 357 for hunting. Some yrs later got a 2 inch for carry. At indoor range, the range officer quickly came to see what I was shooting. The sound, muzzle flash, & recoil is attention getting. Now use 38 special in the 2". Much more easy to control.
My dad and his best friend/gun dealer back in ‘89 selected a Ruger Security Six 6” .357 mag as my first gun. I was somewhat disappointed as I wanted a semi. 30 years later....Thanks to both I hold that firearm as my personal favorite for both power, accuracy and reliability. Its also nice at the range to shoot .38 special. Love the .357 mag caliber.
My favorite firearm is my first handgun, at 14, a S&W M27, 6.5" barrel. I've had it 50 years, and it's still the most impressive, accurate, and beautiful gun of all. I've cloverleafed 5/6 shots, with a flyer 2" high, at 15 yards. I sighted it in at 50 yards.
No question about the psychological effects of it, either.
Sadly in Australia all we have for personal protection is Nerf Blasters (I didn't say Nerf Gun because that flags the comment)
Try hollow point Nerf darts. Feel for you. Waiting for my CCW permit to arrive.
@@wes326 Many people ask me what's in my nightstand. When I say nothing they are shocked and then ask how can I protect my family.
I'd hit like, but I don't like what happened in your country.
Lol
Leo! I watched your Thomas videos as a kid!
Paul, I want to thank you for all the time you have invested in your videos. They are by far the best, most informative and entertaining videos out there. Also your style brings me back to the old days (1960s-70s) when hunters were regular, nice guys without an ego. They respect their weapons, and knew how to use them... THasnk
I had my 9mm, and my .357 out today. Uh..... No comparison. Period. Not that a 9mm is weak, but the .357 is a beast.
Jamie Sloan lol. Right???? Shoot both. If you have questions after that, just carry a 22. Lol
lol "weak"
And .44 Remington Magnum is a beast compared to .357 Magnum. I shoot well with all three, including the 9mm. I prefer to carry .357 Magnum as concealed carry, simply because a single shot will drop an assailant more effectively than 9mm. i.e. I only need to shoot 'Once', in a typical self defense scenario with just one assailant.
@@Der-gute-vegane-Hirte it physically cannot keep up with the .357, the bullet weights and longer case capacity will always give the .357 mag an edge over the 9mm and it's variants. While there may overlap that doesn't translate to both cartridges loaded to their full potential.
Don't make it complicated and just carry a .45
I'm a 9mm guy through and through but man I would never say jUsT aS PowErFUl
some hollows in it though should be one shot man down almost every time though
@@Sean_Regan The data doesn't back that up. 9 mm is an excellent caliber and probably the most reasonable choice for self-defense in a concealed carry role. But it is just on the edge with terminal performance. 9 mm hollow points are not created equal. and it really matters who you shoot and where you shoot them and how many times. I would suggest you go watch a channel called active self-protection and just see how many videos there are people being shot with any handgun caliber with hollow points multiple times. One shot and down is almost never what you see with anything. In the US at least over 80% of people in recorded instances of being shot with a handgun survive. Generally it's closer to 87% and varies by year. It's pretty much the reverse for a long arms. this isn't saying 9 mm a useless caliber or that some other caliber would make all the difference it's actually saying that most of the calibers are mostly useless, and the critical thing is having enough shots in the right place until something stops. There's no magic bullet and there's no magic caliber.
@@GunFunZS there’s no fucking way in hell 87% of people shot with handguns survive, that’s asinine as fucking shit.
And yes a 9mm COULD one shot drop somebody. A .44 magnum most likely WOULD. Any data that suggests otherwise is most likely complete bullshit, just like Paul said in this video (not believing what he reads), at least regarding the .44 magnum. There’s no way most people who would get shot by that gun would be getting back up or surviving.
@@SuperD00D you can call it asinine but it's facts.
Most people who are shot do not get hit in the heart or central nervous system. And so long as they are within driving range of a hospital they are probably not going to bleed to death. This is a statistic which is tracked. Is verifiable information.
By the same token it is falsifiable information. Don't yell about your feelings about it, find the data to prove me false.
@@GunFunZS yep it matters where the shot is placed
WHY AM I JUST DISCOVERING THIS LEGEND? Been in the gun community since I remember, just learnt so much. Thank you sir!
Love it when some of your older videos pop up on my list - consistently great info
This analysis was perfect - if the unfortunate event occurred where i had to draw and fire- you demonstrated why my instinct is to have my. 357 as primary and 9m as a back up or covering fire escape tool
Anyone who actually thought the 9mm. is more powerful than the .357, Paul has this to say to you: 5:43
The body language says it all...
Ha that middle finger. Just noticed it
9mm has no where near the powder so can’t have the power
Ditto. Just noticed the middle finger. Priceless!
Hahahaha. Didn’t notice it until you said something
Even the deer come to listen to this man!
I have no military service in my history, and only limited experience in law enforcement. But I was rolling with laughter when I heard Paul saying: the 9mm being just as effective as a 357 Magnum. As I have shot both, and remembered some of the stories I heard from my military friends, with their experiences with the 9mm in combat situations. And my own experiences. So I am in complete agreement with Paul. Is a 9mm effective? Yes. Is it as effective as a 357magnum? NO!
Great demonstration. Thank you Paul.
357mag for the win.
I was a kid in the 1960's. I was always in awe of the 357 when dad took us kids to Saunders Heights; our small town shooting range, and someone would pull out a 357 mag pistol.
Loud ! I'm talking crowd pleasers for a kid.
Simple dispassionate exploration of the facts and practical experience.
This is why Paul's channel is growing at an exponential rate.
(big word user)
In plain English, he does not use hype or gimmicks and does not give you any information you don't need. He deep-sixed the premise of 9mm v 357 magnum. 9mm is fine and the shooter can have up to 18 rounds in a magazine. The 357 sig 125 grain is in the neighborhood of a 125 grain 357 magnum but that's it. The 357 Sig holds 15 rounds in a Glock and a 40 cal Glock can be converted to 357 Sig with a barrel and spring change. If 357 magnums had sub $1,000 auto platforms they would be popular. Not everyone has the $$$ to get a Coonan or Desert Eagle.
People that know math say that 9mm=.357 calibre. It's the powder charge and length of the barrel that matter.
Not to mention how well spoken he is. I don't think he stuttered one time. So fluent
I think so many guys are drawn to this channel because although the vids were posted not long ago, the style of video is nostalgic.
I know I get that feeling. Brings back memories.
Yup, he's direct and right to point. He's speaks nothing but facts, with his opinion practically absent. This is a very underrated channel.
Yeah .news you can use. Like gun magazines used to be. A long time ago.
Like Bob Ross, but with guns!
He doesn't bullshit. He brings more to the table in experience and wisdom than anybody else I've seen on UA-cam for firearms. That's why I love the channel.
I literally couldn't stop laughing after I read this "Like Bob Ross, but with guns!"
This morning I had a self-defense situation, not with a person but with an adult male black bear (that we believe was rabid), and I was very happy that I was carrying a .357 Mag (w/ StJHP). In fact, the only thing that would have made me happier was carrying my .44 Mag. It charged me and I got off 3 shots before it started to slow and pitch ~9 meters away, and then I emptied the revolver into the target and reloaded with a speed loader. The shot that made the difference was a hit right above its right eye, I believe it was the 2nd, that fully penetrated into its skull. I'm not sure a 9mm would have been enough to stop it before it reached me.
BTW, practice, practice, practice combat reloads. I was pleased that I reloaded smoothly (for me) without even really thinking about it, due to lots of practice.
Glad you survived to tell the tale. I have been trying to decide what firearm would be best for my first. Still undecided but the information is very helpful. Thank you!
@@IluvinortheIneffable
For a first gun? Yes, hard to say, if you want a one and done gun, yea, a 9mm or higher, but if you plan on getting more guns, a 9mm is good for learning how to shoot, it's a middle ground, ammo isn't as expensive, and you get decent training with recoil and so on, but, there's also .22s out there, you won't really learn how to shoot bigger guns, but if you want to have fun or throw a million round down range to learn how to aim and how to deal with malfunctions(I've never had a many malfunctions as i do on my 22s) and not lay awake at night thinking about your wallet, you'll definitely get what you want there
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Lol dude my guy you’re talking about a full grown adult bear that’s 10×20 times stronger than the average adult male that’s like talking about a primate a monkey they’re a lot stronger than the average male and a little stronger than I physically and shape mail anyways the average objective that you would really be up against in risky defensive bad situation is an adult male or female you don’t really need a real powerful gun like that to stop a wimpy objective pretty much one shot from any gun. The average purple if it can hit the target depen what person has heha lol but hey I love mr my negs bby^ and ong so I ight mad at u
Theory meets practice. Great video. Since Paul is firing essentially the same projectile at a much higher velocity from the .357, you'd expect the real world results Paul got. For me, it boils down to auto vs revolver. "You be the judge".
I'm waiting for the "Cookin' with Paul" segment , featuring shot-to-hell pork ribs and fruit with a side of fleece and denim salad.
I support this
As an addendum, I'd also like to see hidden camera footage of one of your Shasta runs
Ah yes, a nice Orange Shasta Glaze on those ribs once he gets back home would be a nice touch as well. Taking fire the whole way I'm sure.
QOTD!
Not to forget the pumpkin spice orange soda!!!
Surely marketed as 'well tenderised'..? ;)
The kinetic energy (KE) of the rounds as tested show the .357 generates between 1.4 to 1.7 times the KE of the 9mm. Effectiveness is more complex, as ability to hit the target in a vital spot is key. But assuming all else being equal, 0357 is much more powerful.
i'm getting 1300 fps out of 185 grains with 45 acp. i know 1400 fps is doable @ 185, but i don't want to stress the pistol like that because the fireball is real. 5" govt 1911 btw
@@LIONTAMER3D Buffalo bore has a 357 158gr doing 1700fps..
@@lavongreen6908 everything they do is great; so are underwood, corbon, some doubletap & the classic SB 45 hallowed points lol
@@LIONTAMER3D yes sir
Thank you Paul, love your videos. I'm still relatively new to guns. bought a Ruger SP101 about 5 months ago, , and, I'm all-in, love it! Your videos are truly entertaining and instructional!
BIG fan of these Paul Harrell videos and how he explains ballistics, mechanicals of the firearms and real world scenarios for personal/home defense. I had to sort through a lot of UA-cam amateurs to find an expert like Paul and I'm so glad I did.
This is much like the 10mm crowd who was claiming 10mm was just as powerful as the 44magnum. While 10mm is a great cartridge, it's not as powerful at the 44mag, not even close. Same as 9mm vs 357magnum. The magnum always wins. Best gun channel on youtube.
You citing what you have personally used and tested, and showing it to us, is why your channel is the best. I have a Security Six .357 like yours (from about 1971) , but I carry a snub-nosed thirty-eight most of the time, and otherwise a G26 (9mm).
.357 IS a very powerful cartridge, but not so practical for me, unless I'm walking in the woods, which isn't all that often.
nobody cares what guns you own
seth tenrec that is what Paul was saying. .357 weapon choices are not as practical for personal defense as 9mm weapon choices.
A .357 magnum revolver is more able to handle ammo loaded with .38 Special +P+ than a .38 Special.
I did not hear him say it was not as practical. I must have missed that, Roy. I heard him say more powerful and effective, but that was in reference to the .357. Reloading and more magazine capacity is for those who miss more shots than Paul, it appears. Personally, I am a terrible shot at 25 yards with a sidearm, but I think I can hit a 3" target while flustered at 21 feet without my glasses.
Mr. Harrell, I really like your rational, attitude-free manner. I am learning a lot from your videos. Thank you!
Very informative with the right touch of humor. Well done sir.
"Paul Harrell is the Bob Ross of guns" -my son
And fifteen other people in every video.
I thought Hickock45 was the Bob Ross of Guns.
@@hardinmichael1981 hickock is a draft dodger coward
@@357-swagnumultramagax9 what makes him a coward for not wanting to die for a country that could give a shit about him? i doubt you've served
The 125gr JHP .357 Magnum earned its title as King Of The Street for a reason.
S. Bond When did it get this title? Who awarded it?
Sir this demonstration is amazing, I enjoyed this 100%. The meat target is the best example on the web of how effective a bullet can be, IMO at least. The .357 is just simply a far more powerful bullet. When you use the word "effective" as the other guy you mentioned did, that opens a whole new can of worms. I feel something like a Ruger LCR in .22LR can be totally "effective" for a self defense weapon, even though obviously the "power" isn't anywhere close at all to either of these two calibers you just demonstrated.
I watched this in 2017 and I can conclude that it is still fresh today as it was filmed yesterday, bravo Paul.
I got myself a S&W model 19-3 in .357 and I couldn't be happier.
The gun is a beauty and super smooth.
I remember reading one in depth analysis of police involved shootings with different calibers and the results. The "best" was apparently a 125 grain projectile out of a .357, with a 96% "one-stop shot" result.
I believe you are correct. Later
Study by the same author using
Shooting data from 40 cal showed
That it exceeded the 357 one
Shot stop.
Paul Harrell is definitely my #1 favorite gun guys one UA-cam 💯 he explains things very well, is very knowledgeable I just love watching his videos! Always answers my questions without me still wondering at the end. Thank you sir! 👍👏👏
Great video. Paul saves me a fortune in ammo with his studies. They are well thought out and entertaining. The only disagreement I have is when he warns us that his talking part may be boring. I find his comments are logical and extremely well thought out. You keep making videos and I'll keep watching.
9mm for indoors, .357 for outdoors. A Buffalo Bore .357 magnum shot inside an enclosed space will make you wish you never had ears
and not just for a little while... that ringing isn't going to go away for weeks and the damage is permanent
Ohohohoho. Thats right!
I had a .38 Special go off in a shed and that was about 6 months ago. They still ring to this day.
@Mike Wilhelmson a man injury. Bitches live easy parasite lives.
Shooting a .22LR indoors without hearing protection is a stupid idea, much less .357mag.
Put a pair of amplified hearing protection muffs next to your nightstand. When that bump happens in the night, the first thing you do is pop on the muffs and turn up the volume. Then grab your iron.
Its like someone froze a rockstar Marine pistol team champion from 1988 and thawed him out in Oregon in 2017.
@@ajgrant94 Really? What makes you say that?
Just speaking from his ass. It’s a tired habit.
@@ajgrant94 idk... Lee harvey oswald has maybe a little notoriety.
AJ Grant YOU don’t know any. Proves at least one thing. You’re an idiot.
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@@ajgrant94 Guess you never watch Full Metal Jacket the drill instructor talks about Marines shooting ability.
I always appreciate your approach to provide reasonable conclusions to your testing. Kudos.
Paul is. Simply the very best out there when it comes to this kind of presentation. Thank you sir!
Paul- you have the hands down most informative gun channel on UA-cam. Heck if I count your Zombie video maybe the most informative dental health channel as well. Thank you for the videos and knowledge.
If anyone tells you that 9mm is just as powerful as .357 magnum, just take them to the range and let them shoot the hottest 9mm they can find, then give them the hottest .357 magnum you can find. Even the stuff from walmart can be pretty toasty for .357 mag.
Screw that. Let them shoot the hottest 9mm money can buy and then shoot the weakest .357. The magnum will still win at this disadvantage.
R Re haha, I have a Ruger Security Six 4 inch in ss and my buddy has a 92f exactly what Paul was shooting today. I let him shoot my 357 loaded with 158 grain Magtechs. He was like "wholly hell, it felt like someone was slapping me in the face. That recoil is ridiculous!"
Right! And if you check out the Duty ammo for PDs and Feds that are switching back to the 9mm, it’s some pretty hot stuff! +p+ is some loads and not available to the public. Nor is it very fun to shoot in a pistol for CCW, ie small and pocketable.
I will stick to my 40SW and 357mag.
Jerry Howell +P+ is available to the public. That whole law enforcement only thing is just a marketing scam to raise prices for the ammo companies .
lol yes. Firing a 9mm is pretty much fun. .357 kicks bigtime and is like a cannon with what I have tried with it. I was firing medium power loads and it was sick. Firing cans and rotten fruit, but I missed and hit the big log they were on and split the log.
Thank you Mr. Harrell. I have 2 9 mils and a 357 Windicator. This was a fantastic video. Pleasure to watch.
I really enjoy your presentations they are very professional and methodical with light humor
This guy just has the right personality, I like his videos, hell I like his stories! Thanks for the video Paul
Love the vids. I hope we get a 357 sig and 357 magnum comparison someday.
That would be great! A Baby Glock G33 vs the SP101!
eddy money as do I sir
357 mag edges the Sig pretty handily in the 125 gr load but where the comparison ends are the heavier loads of 158 to 180. 357 mag all day, every day. However in terms of the high capacity auto loader design of the Sig, it wins the comparison in the long run due to speed of use and shootability. IMHO.
Anthony Skrivan only on paper. It's pretty close across the board and 357 Sig edges out 357 in shorter barrels when both are using premium ammo.
btube325 ~ oh right! The old “only on paper” argument. I can tell you facts, hard ones at that. Underwood’s 180 gr hard cast gas check 357 load clocks a tick over 1400 FPS from my 4” 686+. This is making a crushing 780lb ft of energy. Am I missing something? Do you know of a comparible 357 Sig load? On paper maybe? Get real, son...
Glad to see you pull out the SP101 snubbie. I bought one when they first came out, and it's still the best pistol I've ever owned.
A real gentleman: a pleasure to watch and learn from!
When my department (OCSD, CA) went from .38 Special revolver to 9mm semi-auto, I embraced the change. We also went from carrying 18 .38 Special rounds to 46 9mm rounds (as well as more rounds before reloading).
Later, the department went from S&W 9mm to Glock 9mm, increasing the payload to 52 rounds of 9mm. Much later, the department went to a 3 pouch magazine carrier. That gave it an even bigger boost to 69 rounds.
The biggest advantage was more rounds and quicker reloads. Shortly after getting the 9mm, jacketed hollow point ammunition was approved. The .38 special was the Keith semi-wadcutter and speed loaders were used.
Your videos are always done well, professionally and concisely. You are at the top of my short list of reviewers that I prefer.
have ben trying to watch evr one of em..
Depending on your department and the numbers of officers 69 rounds may seem like a lot, and some not enough. Rural officers who may be alone with backup 15 to 30 minutes away wants to be prepared. Always being prepared is how you keep the edge. I knew deputies that carried scoped mini 14's because farmers have scoped deer rifles and more. I knew others who only had shotguns. That's the way the world is. Its becoming more violent and the officers must be prepared to meet those threats. Next time you have to call 911 think about those officers there to help you or to help another. To assume they will be "throwing around 9mm in every direction" is asinine.
OldPossum I absolutely disagree and I think you are ill informed and easily swayed by media bias.
I love how you guys have that quote above the firing range " speed is good but acurracy is everything" by Wyatt Earp if i am correct...SAPD and OCSD good at law enforcement and community relations
Most departments are using .40 calibers these days. @OldPossum
When this guy pulls the snubby out of his pocket, I immediately imagined him in a dark alley, calmly speaking to someone attempting a robbery, and doing exactly that. Loved this video and the thought out information. Thank you for this
I pictured more of a mafia style gut shot execution but see your image now as well.
I own both yet my carry piece is 357,my nine is by me when I'm at home. Shot placement is best,extra ammo don't mean nothing if you are a shit shot.
So, if i did that, when SHTF I'd not be sure if the gun in my hand has a safety or not. Pick one great gun that you, your wife, your adult children love, buy everyone that model, pick one bullet, buy everyone a box. When SHTF , your family may all hunker down in one house and all will know how to operate everyone's piece. Like armies do it. One gun only ? That's all the nam sgt gave me , i gave it back a year later.
Another Great Presentation! I just ordered a Ruger GP100 357 magnum with a 4” barrel today. I had the tracking number before I even got home from my FFL !! Doing the Happy Dance!
really enjoyed this, it's a pleasure to watch a competent professional
I've watched this particular presentation a few times. Still as informative and entertaining. The issue that strikes me as having high significance is defining the parameters of performance for the elements of focus- The specific firearms utilized; cartridge configuration, strategy or tactics, ad astra. Paul and very few others across the YT universe provide the viewers with objective information with attention retaining presentation. Subjective views are kept to a minimum and are primarily used to fill in gaps that data or statistics can not adequately address. I've been impressed as to how Mr. H. and his crew manage to produce presentations on a regular basis when many other production 'companies' run out of ways to grow the audience after a few dozen episodes.
Outstanding demostration paul. I have both 357 and 9mm. My edc during the week i carry my either my taurus 509 9mm revolver or my glock 19. Both loaded with gold dot +p. And for my weekend adventures like night fishing or camping i carry my 6 inch ruger GP100 IN 357 MAG. I load it with buffalo bore jhp. It gets a little spooky around 1am in the woods by myself lol. Never know sasquatch could be real 😆
Great comparison & video, Paul - thank you! Only amateurs & novices would think a 9 outperforms a .357.
But what if the 9mm shooter identifies as a .44 Mag shooter?
You mean an amateur like Joe Biden
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I haven't commented on any of your videos, but it's not because I don't admire your skills and analysis, which are comprehensive, accurate and freaking funny! Very entertaining and informative. You sir are an excellent instructor.
Hello Paul my name is M E Wilson SR. I just want to say what a great presentation that you have put together and put out here online I really appreciate it and it taught me a lot about the reasoning and testing on Firearms thank you so much and I look forward to your next publication thank you so much!!
You just gave me a name to look for when I have questions about these types of guns. Thank you, excellent presentation.
Your methodology is very thorough and informative.
5:42 one, that's just not true. xD please tell me you guys caught that.
Mad Mike was looking through the comments and starting to think i was the only one lol
Yep
caught it.
that was pauls way to emphatically disagree with the "9 and 357 are the same" crowd"..
I caught that too. That right there is a smooth and classy way to call out some bullshit LOL! I love this guy!
The finger? Lol
Always awesome when I see a Paul Harrel video in my sub box!
Another well done video. Thank you for setting the record straight.
Love this video, can’t believe it took me so long to find it. Thanks Paul👍🏽
I'm so glad this UA-cam channel exists.
.357 more powerful
9mm is effective, somewhat less likely to over penetrate, easier on the hands to shoot, less expensive ( you can practice more ), usually in a semi-auto that holds more ammo and is faster to reload, and a bit easier to conceal.
If it is a defensive weapon, select the one that gives you the best chance of getting a round on target.
Truly appreciate the edification that you display in everyone of these videos to those that just don’t get it thank you sir God bless you and yours abundantly
Thank you Paul. As always, you clearded up the confusion.
You make the best and most informative gun videos I've saw on UA-cam. Plus you'd be a great villain in Walker: Texas Ranger.
Why villain?
Thanks Paul. Ive gone back to carrying
.357 mag for this reason. And, I'm actually using the same ammo used here. Old tech, still effective. Of most self defense rounds, I think and its been said that .357 magnum has the best potential to cause a 1 shot stop. This clearly shows why.
Great commentary, great information, always delighted to see your videos, very knowledgeable, appreciate it keep up the good work.
Enjoy the way you approach these videos and communication style. Thank you