Marshall Origin 20 - How Much Gain Does This Amp Have - Let's Also Run Some Gain Pedals In Front!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this video we take a look at the Marshall Origin 20. This amp series is supposed to emulate the old Marshall amps such as the plexi and MKII models. Perhaps a JCM 800? I think it does a great job, and this thing is loud! I also run some gain and distortion pedals in front of it for fun, just to see what kind of tones we could coax out of it. I hope you like the video. Please subscribe!
The tilt is for emulating the tones of combining the two channels of the 4 hole Marshall’s when you jumper the two channels !!
Sweet. Good info man. 😎👍
Yes, and the low setting is 0.5 watts, and the middle is 3 watts.
@@castleanthrax1833 You are correct
Sounds killer! I think the magic ingredient is that old cab
These Origins need a good cab for sure. I mean any amp does, but yes.
Yeh true man. The old cabinets really sound wicked. It's odd.. but true. 🤷
I use this amp (ori20Head) with a green back in a DSL 20 open combo and it does not exactly sound like this. This old 4 x 12 makes a huge difference. Considering a 4 x 12 now !!
Absolutely, that cab is adding a ton of life, depth and thump. Of course, that cab is worth about as much as 4 Origin 20s. LOL.
@@mbreinin the cab is worth quite a bit more than the head
This amp doesn't get enough credit. I don't think it really emulates a plexi but it sounds really good with my tele. Puts meat on its bones and is very punchy and articulate.
That amp sounds great alone and with all those pedals. Awesome demo too Marty.
I appreciate it Barry!!
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Everyone says this amp has good tones and is an even better pedal platform but no one did a video like this to back up those claims. I’ve messed with this amp in stores trying to decide on it but the stores wouldn’t let me plug a pedal into it to check it out fully. This is the video I needed to see. I like a bit more gain for most of the music I play than this gives. This is the video I needed to see. Thanks Marty!
That almost melted my pussy, but he ran out of the room the moment he heard it. Silly cat.
😂😂😂
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i just watched a review where this cork sniffer tech , bagged this amp badly...so im back watchin this to cheer myself up, i got one of these arriving in 3 days, im trading in a boss katana 50(the salespitch hype doesnt match the reality,but im old, )im hoping that crap review was whinge, but i still wish y didnt put pro tools on the sound ,makes it messy .
Thanks man! You'll enjoy the amp I'm sure! I just like a little jape on my sound in post. 😎🎵🎵🎵🎸
I believe the tilt knob mimics the channel blending of the 2 volume knob & high / low inputs on the classic 4-hole Marshall amps.
I believe so! 😎☮️
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Have you tried boost it with a ep booter or any other clean boost? sounds great btw thanks for the video.
Never did, but I'm sure it'd be great. Plus with an eq!
Awesome video, man!!! Thanks & Cheers!!!
Thanks for watching!
Its got that classic 80s hair metal tone.
Its beautiful
My take on the Origin series: People like to poo poo these amps, but I think they're just hearing with their eyes. I got a 50h not too long ago and have been loving the trip down memory lane. Your very right about the classic sounds in these amps. Given a proper cab, they require zero modification. I also acquired a Greer Lightspeed to really unlock it. A transparent drive is the way to go over modding one of these if its not having issues. Killer used value too even in todays economy.
Glad to have a fellow origin lover on the channel! I cranked mine again yesterday. Had some guitar buddies over and they were like "damn that thing rocks". It's got a lot of beef for a 20 watt amp. And you can do a lot with the eq and tilt knobs. It really comes to life with a little overdrive in front too! 😎🤟🏻
Do you know if fuzz pedals work with this amp?
Yeh should work fine !
Viewer feedback, don't say the amp sounds like this, and put delay on it. I will actually block u now, becuae I wait3d 5 mins. For amp amd delay.
No gain, no pain 😎
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And no gain no gig 😂😂
Great job Marty! I can always watch your videos to demo stuff with the proper rock & 80s metal like it should be. Some channels are always clean sounding but I wanna hear it right - you deliver bro! And that Origin 20 - man that really sound sweet! I mean, people might think a Marshall Plexi must have tons of gain but not really. Bands back then, before the mid/late 80s, used this amp - like you said, KISS (a Marshall Plexi). I almost got one of these in a combo a couple of years ago, but I got the British made JCM800 instead. Love it too 🤘 the way I see it, the 70s to early 80s was the Plexi, then in 80s to early 90s was the JCM800, then the 90s had the JCM900, and the 2000s came the JCM2000. Those are really too much fizzle for me, so I think the Plexi or the JCM800 are outstanding pedal platforms. Just like this Origin 20, I have my JCM800 gain cranked - I think it fattens it up more than anything - then I can add a Boss Super Distortion. But really, you showcased the sweet sound of the Origin20. I may just have to get one of these!!! (Let me know if you want to sell the PM). 🤘🤘
Thanks man! I really try to demo the stuff decently. You're very right man. The 80's were all about that plexi sound. Concerts were so loud lol. And you could feel it. As time progressed amps have continually got fatter and more distorted. Not a bad thing. Just changes. But the barking mid range crunch is so trademark Marshall. And it fits right in a mix and band setting so well!
Is that a Brendan Smalls Explorer?
Yep 😎
That little guy sounds really nice and it's a great pedal platform 👏 🤘🎸
It's a Brut man!
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I'd say he looks average size, maybe 6' or so, but not a bad speaking voice for sure, does appear to be a kind gentleman.
Wish you could control Tilt with an expression pedal. Other than that great amp, got the 5 watt combo (hated by many for the wrong reasons 😅).
Origin is maybe my fav Marshall amp.
Hello, are you using reverb? The amp has no reverb correct, so is that a reverb pedal I hear around 7:44?
I added some reverb in post to give a produced sound so people could hear what it sounded like recorded.
I bought a dsl40c before the origin came out. The high gain channels are useless for me. I think the origin and a pedal would have been perfect for me.
I'd like to hear it 'slightly' or a bit cleaner before pedals and then hit it with a Friedman Smallbox Pedal ( Plexi Pedal)
Would make for killer Early EVH sound id think.
Sounded killer with the OD pedal 🤘
Thanks man! It was fun to demo!
Just needs an attenuator so you can crank the volume/gain all the way up and you can get that classic marshall crunch
Great video thanks for the test! I just bought the same amp and I wanted to know from you which good boost pedal or overdrive could be added to get the solo sound of Angus Young thank you very much
Haha I have the Butthole Burner pedal Marty which apparently has the same circuits
I heard it does! Lol. Forgot about it. Lol
Im hearing some delay and maybe some reverb where is that coming from?
I sold my origin 20 now I wish I kept it. Plus they went up big time so I lost out on that sale. Great vid as always
Sorry to hear that. I have gotten rid of stuff I regret aswell! Thanks for watching man!
Trying to decide on an upgrade over my Fender Champion 100 which is a great pedal platform. Nice take on China Grove
Where is all the delay coming from ? You stated you were going only thru the OD pedals.
I run mine with a 2X12 with a Greenback and a V30, great tones, and enough power to gig, no worries !!
4:49 for music, to much talk.
Thanks man! Thank goodness UA-cam have us the tap option to advance. I'd probably advance myself too. 😂😂☮️
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You got some amazing tones out of those amps and pedals. That fury cat one sounds the best though.
Loving that guitar by the way 😍
Thanks man!! Glad you liked the demo. 🤟🏻
@Marty5150 By the way Marty. I see that MXR are bringing out a Randy Rhoads special overdrive pedal next year.
@@bmac5085 that's interesting. I think I heard something about that. I need to check it out!
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They do work for metal, but you need a distortion pedal used as a boost. If you dial in the gain a little bit lower than AC/DC, then use a distortion pedal with the gain all the way or almost all the way down and volume dimed, and use the EQ on the amp as your primary tone sculpting tool, you can absolutely get hard rock and metal tones. I've also heard of people diming the gain sans gain boost and then using what's referred to as a "chainsaw" distortion with it to great effect.
Try a metal core they sound fantastic
@@73prd Boss, or NuX? I've heard nothing but great things about both 😁
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@@73prd TBH I'd sooner use it as a platform for an HM-2, and pair in parallel with another high gain, boosted amp, which in my case would likely be an Orange OR-30 or Super Crush 100. In terms of modern metal tone, Plexi's are for Chainsaw, as far as I'm concerned, lol. Just like the soft pallette and artenoids are for BREEEE.
@@needsLITHIUM well I just sold my orange supercrush100 head and bought to marshall origin 50 head, hated the supercrush its bland, weird mids and Highgain sounds like a big muff pedal, my randall rg 1503h kicked its ass lol
Great video Marty !!! tnxs !!!
You are using a delay but you don't mention about it ??? is it in the loop ??
I mixed the audio in pro tools and added a little delay and verb in the mix. (Not the loop). 🎸😁
I thought Tilt was supposed to simulate the blend between the high and low input like when you jumper a Plexi.
That is exactly what it is designed to do.
Yeh I guess so! It just reminded me of an angled amp since it made it sound tighter. (To me)
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Killer tone man, the amp is good, but that cabinet is heaven
Yeh the cabinet adds A lot!!! Thank you so much. 😎
Great video, i do wonder tho i've had this for a year and didnt know about the pulling out the gain button! But when i do it, the sound does not change at all🤔 i live in an apartment so i only have the volume at 1, and i get a bit of crunxhy sound, so i hoped pulling it out would give me more distortion at low volumes, but didn't notice anything :/ is something wrong or is it simply because i am not using real volume?
I have the 50 version btw.
Edit- i had the foot controller plugged in and it has its own boost button. To use the pull out gain button the foot controller needs to be disconnected
Yeh man, you gotta open it up for the gain to work. It's gotta get loud. You could put a pedal like a tube screamer in front that will help a lot at low volumes.
Very impressed, your extremely articulated demo. I'm not getting paid to say this, by far the best demo. for the origin 20.
Simple straight to the point.
I can't stress this enough, thank you so VERY much .
My favorite thing was your points on saving money and where you bought your pedals.
Furthermore recognizable songs. 95% of the guitar/amp/pedals, play *#%,/ing nonsense.
Is it a talent show or a demonstration????
EXCELLENT THANKS!!!!
Thanks John. I really appreciate the kind words. It means a lot, I try my best to demo stuff out the way I'd like to hear it. Glad it connects with some you all watching! 😎🤟🏻🎵🎵🎵
My real OCD is loved by even who hears it and the borrow it for gigs and recording. They are not interested in my other overdrive and distortion pedals. It sounds amazing.
It's a great little amp and pedal platform 👽🤟🏻
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker yeah, I should have mentioned they are borrowing the Origin as well. Going to get the DSL 20 as well as my son’s band now have one loud amp and one quiet amp.
My 50 watt combo loaded with a v30 is awesome. I have never used it in 50 watt mode as it is so loud 25 watt mode is fine for gigs. Excellent value for money.
I agree. I love the combos. I almost got a 50 watt combo but found this one on sale so I got the 20. It cranks!
The fact that you got the real deal to the left to the left adds Credibility to the review. Ass kickn thx!
Thanks bro. 🤟🏻😎🤟🏻
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Nice review sir. That cab makes it sound amazing. I have the 20c with a 10 inch greenback. But that cab is the real deal . Liked and subscribed. Cheers
Thanks Jorge. I really appreciate it man. 😎🥂
For Science!!
As always!! 😂
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I just got the 20C. The clean sound is very nice. My ... challenge with it is the distortion/ overdrive. With the gain pegged, I don't get that level of drive you seem to get (around 6:15). It's still pretty clean. I guess it's not really a problem as I will likely run pedals in front of it as you do.
I can confirm, this thing is loud. Even on the low setting.
Did you try to pull out the push pull knob? Also you gotta crank up the main volume on the left and put the gain on 10 too. 😎🤟🏻
@marty5150. That's it! Crank Master Volume. I got a chance to test it out at higher volume levels today (my post was at night). With the master in the +7 range, I can get the distortion (and it sounds good too), but volume wise, even on "low output", it's no longer bedroom/ apartment/ other people in the house friendly. ;) I have a cable on order to hook up my attenuator. Hopefully that will let this amp breathe and not summon the angry villagers.
Something I recommend in lieu of an attenuator is putting an overdrive pedal in the effects loop and using the volume knob as the master vol for the amp. I try to set my drive to something transparent sounding, give or take however much gain you want. Then you can crank up the controls on the amp. It's not quite the same as an attenuator since the output tubes aren't really being pushed, but it does allow you to break up the preamp tubes at least while playing at any volume.
@@Baghdadbatterymusic I'll give it a try. I think it would do well with my fenders, bu the MV works on them as the distortion comes mostly from the preamp phase. For the Marshall, the classic distortion sound comes from the power amp distortion which is after the effects loop. With my Origin 20C, the gain dimed and the MV on low, there is little to no distortion.
That melter ain't bad!
It's pretty darn cool 😎🤟🏻
I don’t care what the P melter sounds like it’s pink and awesome.
I have been known to say something like that.
Haha!! Love it.
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I picked up a second hand 20w Combo off Reverb in excellent condition and it’s great. I play it mostly in 5w mode and provides great crunch and as you say spot on for AC/DC type classic rock. Just contemplating my first steps into the aladdin’s cave of pedal tones so this video is very helpful.
Recently bought the origin 20. I love the tone of it by itself. But sometimes I want something a little more heavy. So I ended up getting a Joyo Chopper Z and a Berhinger SF300 and can get some pretty gnarly tones out of it.
Damn that thing sings
Looks like small checker cabinets, should be late 70s, with either blackbacks or g12 65s
The mid late 60s pinstripes, late 60s basketweaves and early 70s large cherckerboard would come with greenbacks, until the pulsonic cone was changed to the rc1 cone in 73ish and the back was switched to creamback around that time,
I guess im saying is, those arent cabs that would have come stock with greenbacks, somebody would have had to installed them in there.
I wonder if this head would sound good going into a captorx?
I guess it depends on how well you do it??
This things sounds awesome. I have a DSL20hr currently, but thinking of adding this one too.
Have you compared DSL with Origin as a pedal platform?
Hi , i would like a new amp head for my guitar (LP goldtop 50 with p90 ) and I dont know if my choice will be for a dsl 20 or origin 20 .. please 🙏 tell me if origin is better ? -> important, I love to play in clean sound or crunch sound , no lead sound . Thanks
The OCD kills those other pedals. No noise when you engaged it and it was the fattest sounding pedal. The Tumnus gave me a tummy ache. The P-Melter would be my second choice, but it's not the OCD. This is my opinion as a blues rock guitar player influenced by Hendrix, Beck, and Gary Moore. I use an original OCD, so I'm know what it can do.
Sounds good from where I'm sitting! I'm in Iowa Soooo...??? 😆 thanks Marty
Thank ya man!
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I've heard you don't need much. Just turn the volume down and turn up the guitar until you reach the sweet spot.
Yeh. It's a toneful little amp. And very versatile. Easy to dial in. I hope it proves reliable. 😎🤟🏻
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I'm about to do the Headfirst mod to mine, which turns it into a JCM800 circuit and adds Jose diode clipping. In doing so I will lose the tube buffered effects loop, which is one of the coolest thing about the amp as is. One of the best ways I've found to use this amp has been to use a Multi- effects modeler as my pre amp, and send it into the return on the loop, totally bypassing the preamp. Your master volume on the amp still works doing this. That tube buffer really acts like part of a preamp for a Multi- effects modeler and then the power tubes add their own additional distortion, making a Modeler sound fantastic. With the mod, my effects loop tube will be an additional gain stage for the original preamp and done away with as a buffer for the effects loop. I will probably add a solid state loop back in, but will sure miss the tube loop. None the less, it will essentially turn the amp into a Jake
E. Lee firebreather. Cool video, you are getting some great sounds out of it.
That just got paid riff is prob my fav gibbons riff
I love it too. Billy is the man. 😎
So I wanted a ‘78 JMP but couldn’t afford it, so a buddy sold me on the Origin 50. I run a Boss delay in the loop, and a DS-1 w/ Keeley mod out front, through a 1985 original 1960A slant cab. MONEY!!!
It's badass man!
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker I only paid $500 for the origin 50. It’s definitely worth the money
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Right on Marty, the Melter pedal sounded fantastic. Some day I may cave and buy an Origin. So many toys, so little time...and cash! Ha!
Thank you! It's a great little amp. Sometimes the used market have en pretty cheap. But yeh... to much gear out there! Good problem and a bad problem.
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Mine had no gain total clean when dimed, sterile sounding, maybe it was faulty. Sold it and got the DSL20H .
Fragged 😅😅. Great video marty. Looking at the 50 combo or DSL40CR combo. Have you played the dsl?
Thx my Friend! Great review! Just picked on up from GD at under 400, Brand New! At the Low Watt setting this thing Roars! Cheers!
was looking to get one of these before they went sky high. i have a dsl40c that i run at 20watts. have it set up as a 3 channel with my p board. the dsl is a very versatiale marshall. great demo dude. i liked it best with the ocd. def would like to get an origon amp.
I noticed these things jumped in price brand new. Must be the "tube scare" that bumped it??
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You got an Archer for $30.00!? I found it. Do you think it measurses up to the J. Rocket or Tumnus? I actually have a 30.00 full size Klon clone. It's decent.
Enjoyed the video! Did you only use the mic on your video camera for this review?
No I had it mic'd with a budget MXL condenser into a focusrite 2 channel Audi interface and pro tools. 👍
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Sorry I might have missed it but where is all the delay coming from? Is it from the mic picking it up from it bouncing of the walls? Again sorry if I missed something
Sounds great. Maybe I missed something but where is the echo delay coming from?
I failed to mention. I added it in post via pro tools.
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Thanks for taking the time to make this demo, Marty. Putting a variety of pedals in front of the amp was extremely valuable. After seeing this, I ordered the Origin 20 head and the Golden Horse pedal, which was a great find on your part. The head will arrive tomorrow. Your efforts will have saved me a lot of time spent twiddling knobs. Keep up the excellent work, sir!
BTW, love those speakers. I have a few of those myself.
I don't know why they look so small in videos? I have the 20 watt head (albeit in cream) and it is bigger than it looks here.
Edit: It's also a great amp too. It sounds better the louder it gets (like all tube amps) so using an attenuator will get you a better tone. I'm using a cheapie bugera ps1, and cranking, it really comes alive.
Man that's a nice amp one question though is it tube run and if it is do you know what tubes are in it by chance
Hey man! It's got 2 EL34's in it! 🤟🏻😎🤟🏻
Dam Trolls
That top marshall can looks very familiar. Same damage scuffs I had. 70's 25's green backs. Sold mine in mid to late nineties. If it was you can I buy it back ? Lol!
I got this 2 years ago from a friend of mine who is a drummer of all things lol.
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@@cooder2380 Tn. Drummer came from Indiana.
I suppose it could have traveled that far .
sounds so good !!!!!
The last band I was in Marty the other guitar player had one and ran a boss distortion pedal through it and it sounded awesome it sounded like a plexi
I believe it man. These are great little amps. And a true to form in tone!
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I have an orgin thought about selling. So I wanted to watch. I have a metal zone in the loop right now. I’m not big on stacking pedals I have a jsx and believe it or not I play on the MG most. And people seem to hate that amp. Lol.
Celestion 2 Fender 1x12 cabs
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12:48 YOU NEED IT TIGHT, Marty!!! C’MON MAN! 😂
Sounds great! What are you using for reverb/delay for this demo?
Thanks man. I just added a little flavor of reverb and delay in pro tools to soften it up a tad.
@@Ranch5150SkinWalkeryeah the protools thing made it all messy and its already goin thru a phone, so i was listening for the sound to NOTbe like this boss katana i got coz i couldnt lift my sovtek mig 1oo h anymore, now that was loud...but ive ordered n paid for this head and 212 cab already, the katana tries hard and gets a sound, but meh , too late now...
Bahahah!!! Your tilt control explanation is ridiculous!🤣
Cool review, now I want to add an Origin to my collection 😊
They're solid amps man. Totally worth it!
Hi Marty. I think heard some delay. Do you have a delay pedal in your FX loop?
Nice! All I ever hear about this Or20 is seemingly negative, this sounds killer!
I think it's the chug crowd that doesn't like em. Or the dudes that want a 5150. Nothing wrong with that... just not that amp.
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker I think it sounds great especially for 70s and 80s classic rock stuff, and I see a few mods for it that look interesting for it as well
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Poololly Melter,sounded great fer a 20 quicky on 11.It goes to 11.
Lol! Yes 🙌
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker Yes,I seen the video.Thanks again Marty,Your the best my brother!!!
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What speakers u using
Ran it through the old Marshall 4x12. 1974 with greenbacks.
Ordered one of these today
You'll love it 😎🍺
Excellent video as always Marty. Thanks.
You're welcome Frankie! 😎🤟🏻
You nailed ZZ Top tone. That amp sounds like a Marshall 😂 . Great sounds. I would gig with that amp and leave higher priced Amp at home
Where are you getting the delay/reverb from?
Great
Now ill be looking for a P Melter for the board
😂😂 it's a slice of heaven man
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I'm not sure what else anyone would need...
I got to get a kitty melter that pedal is sweet lol
WOW! I'm super impressed with that Marshall Origin. The Epiphone sounds good too. I really like that Tumnus pedal.
I was shocked with this little sucker too. It puts out big time man. It's a chunky beast with lots of headroom!
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker that's bad ass, man. I really like the classic styling Marshall put into these, too.
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@@Ranch5150SkinWalkerI own a original Tumnus, and it’s really great tone
I bought the Golden horse and your spot on it absolute rocks I booted all other dirt pedals off my board besides my blues driver and kept the horse, great pedal
have mercy
Lol
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Alright Marty! I will delete my other comment. lol
Never saw it?
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It was about the Panther pedal. lol
@@standingvertical3048 lol!!! I can only imagine
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Indeed!
Still on the hunt for my first Marshall. Finding a decent cab that somebody will ship to Nowhere, WV has been my most difficult task.
get a line 6 flextone...the older ones are better....
@@59plexi Found a cool one on Reverb in California. Local pickup only, people don’t like shipping cabs. I don’t blame them though, that’s a big heavy box.
please dont get a line 6 flextone
@@scottiecampbell I’m looking into finding an old Crate and switching the speakers to greenbacks. One of my buddies on here is a super knowledge amp and guitar guy and he said it should be a safe bet.
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