That’s what I was thinking. This guy started crying so it was a bit more obvious, but what about the ones that are alive but can’t speak or whatever. This is horrible, that poor man.
There's another story of a young man who was declared dead/ready for donation and when his father saw signs of life the hospital staff ignored him so the dad stood by his hospital bed and literally held them off at gunpoint until his son started showing more obvious signs of life they couldn't ignore.
I agree with not being a donor. But organs cannot be harvested from a dead body, that is the truly horrible thing about it. They know the people are alive. They may not be responsive, but they are NOT DEAD!
💯 heard some places are very very pushy about getting donors organs. DISGUSTING $$$$ follow the money. Can't trust hospitals, no over sight. No recourse at all 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 But the government is busy looking their nose in trivial crap.
@@thisis.michelletorres444stop lying and exaggerating. Brain death IS DEATH you ignorant fool. A beating heart IS NOT automatically life if there’s brain death. They just keep the body going to avoid the decomposition process because you can’t transplant death into ppl. Smh…. So uneducated.
The battery of questions they make the family answer for medical and social history was enough to take me off the fence and firmly into the never-ever side. The same day you find out your loved one was in a terrible accident and your world is ripped up you are now answering a hundred questions including things like sexual history about that loved one. This also made me cringe at the thought of ever needing to be at the receiving end of a donation because you may not really know what you are getting if the family didn't know the full history or if there was an undiagnosed, undetected infection in the donor.
It’s the donor organization, not the hospital. Hospitals are required by law to cooperate with organ procurement organizations. If they don’t, they can be sanctioned and Medicaid/Medicare funds are withheld. In some states OPOs have lobbied to have donation made an advance directive- even though there’s little information/no informed consent when prospective donors sign up. This leaves family with no say. They can’t object to donation.
Dr's are immune to prosecution except on very rare occasion. If you recall dr. Hussel they had an entire playboy on how to put everyone against 1 amazing dr for end of life care (to cover the hospital's incredible overprescribing and many other accusations ). Just like police, blueline gang, nobody speaks out, everyone sticks together except when they have a common target.... for the greater good or whatever.
the part left out here is by far the most damning: the coordinator for the organ donation from this man, who is not named, was accused by at least one of the witnesses (staff) of not only dismissing obvious signs of life, but attempting to procure a new set of physicians after the the team present refused entirely to go further with killing Mr. Hoover.
The hospital administration likely turned a blind eye because releasing a patient doesn’t generate revenue. Several transplant surgeries generates a lot of revenue and a positive reputation for completed transplant surgeries.
I was an ER RN for 20 years. The organ donation team are like bats out of hell when they come through, just demanding immediate organ removals. It's like the hospital is afraid of them. someone somewhere is making big benefits for organ donations.
Remember earlier this year the story of the little boy who drowned and "wouldn't wake up" from his coma, and later the family took him off life support??? And the family said they were told his organs would help others!? Remember? The entire time I kept thinking this is what they were after!!!
The scariest part is that his family told the news that he DID WAKE UP one time but for some reason "went back into coma"!!! 😡😡😳😳 And I remember having the most horrible feeling that something wasn't right about this whole story..... That poor little 5 year old boy!! 😳🥺
My mom warned me of this for years. She passed this year from cancer. Our experience dealing with the hospitals was horrible. The medical system needs to be completely reformed.
@@AA-ct7cb Yes! This whole story is very upsetting to hear. I can only imagine how it felt to be the one going through it. I'm glad they're speaking up.
My friend told me years ago that ERs intentionally pretend nothing is wrong with organ donors and send them home including gaslighting them Only for them to die eventually, then get their organs And what's even more disturbing is taking controlled substances alter your organs especially your heart, liver and pancreas I took opioids for pain management and my liver was altered and I had to take water pills with it to flush my kidneys and liver from the opioid
Remember earlier this year the story of the little boy who drowned and "wouldn't wake up" from his coma, and later the family took him off life support??? And the family said they were told his organs would help others!? Remember? The entire time I kept thinking this is what they were after!!!
The scariest part is that his family told the news that he DID WAKE UP one time but for some reason "went back into coma"!!! 😡😡😳😳 And I remember having the most horrible feeling that something wasn't right about this whole story..... That poor little 5 year old boy!! 😳🥺
I've seen first hand the pressure put on families, I had a daily battle telling them no, I literally slept with my arm across my loved one, they wouldn't take no for an answer, he would awaken at times but they literally told me they go off observation, no testing done. I was hoping things had changed, guess not. Btw, recovered and came home with PTSD from it, they do hear what's going on when" not viable"
The pressured the mother of the love of my life. Every hour they came back and told her there was no hope never giving him a chance. It’s like they salivated after his organs and she finally caved. I felt a piece of me die that day. I knew there was still hope left. They stole him from us. Evil wicked bastards.
@@simpleton2090 so very sorry to hear this, I'm sure the pressure was unbearable, you have every right to feel about them as you do and I agree. I liken them to vampires, smiling, friendly, looking right past you at what they really want. Even local news has been shilling for them, no different than shilling for target or a shoe store. Know I'm sending good thoughts to you and wish you peace and comfort
Remember earlier this year the story of the little boy who drowned and "wouldn't wake up" from his coma, and later the family took him off life support??? And the family said they were told his organs would help others!? Remember? The entire time I kept thinking this is what they were after!!!
I absolutely Indians what you’re saying. While what happened was horrific, it’s INCREDIBLY rare. I’m going to continue to be an organ donor to help others. I hope you do, too.
I took the organ donor off my drivers license because of stories like this. Last month a Florida doctor killed a patient by removing the patients liver instead of spleen.
Imagine all the people who had organs harvested and are now dead - who very likely could have probably survived, given more time.... That's spooky shit.
this sort of thing is rare, but yes I've thought just how rare/not rare as there's little oversight. I wouldn't be shocked if some had been comatose yet aware....that they were about to be "harvested" and could do nothing about it. let's HOPE it's very rare but better oversight might shed light on this question...
@suemccann2010 ask Ukrainians - lots of kids are kidnapped for organs, especially now when there is war and chaos, a lot of orphans that nobody is looking for
I kept thinking THIS about that national story earlier this year about the little boy who drowned and was on "life support" and the family mentioned that he woke up once, but later "went back into coma". 🤔🤔🤔 Later they took him off life and the family said they were told his organs would help others!! 😳😳 Remember that story??? The entire time I kept thinking "THEY JUST WANTED HIS ORGANS!!!" They are able to keep people in a "induced coma".
@Runner8617 medical technology is the forbidden fruit How many of us have been kept alive and shouldn't be and vice versa, luckily my organs won't do any good for anyone anymore I think about it with the missing children too
Be careful of this type of situation. Hospitals make so much money off of organs, they're ready to grab them as soon as they can. When my mother passed, they almost insisted I donate her organs. They were really aggressive about it. I told them no.
i’m not a organ donor, I do not want a autopsy unless absolutely necessary and i told my family to make sure it’s me who goes into the incinerator. They are making patients life prematurely end so they can donate their organs. F this
Hospitals recieve these organs as donations and they turn around and charge the patients needing them hundreds of thousands of dollars for those organs.
I donated my 26 yr old son's organs in 2018, i wish i hadn't when i read a yr later that Transplant orgs weren't transplanting to proposed recipients if they weren't vaxxed..
I've actually been thinking a lot about that. It creates a huge moral hazard where a large part of the population has no incentive at all to participate in organ donation.
I heard the same thing happening to a woman who was drunk, either she got into a accident or it was alcohol poisoning. She showed signs of being alive but they still took her organs. It was revealed by one of the staff that was there at the time
I'm 63, back when I got my license my father told me NOT sign donor on back because if I'm out somewhere and get in a wreck if somebody important in the area needs an organ that I can supply I'll be dead
I will never, ever sign anything saying that my organs can be taken at death. Ever. This is extreme (maybe not so extreme) but even "brain death" diagnoses are suspicious and there have been published concerns over this category of death (so organs can be harvest live) for a long, long time now.
Yes and there are cases where people woke up right before being disconnected from machines after being declared brain dead...I think it is more common than we think. This is terrifying because this guy woke up a few times. Trained specialists knew he was alive. Scary.
In your mind maybe. Otherwise this is nothing new. Nothing can be guaranteed when it comes to medical treatment, even with the most basic procedures there's risk and even with the most tested medicine. Be glad you don't live in the middle ages.
Since? Lulz. You missed the past century during the reign of Rockefeller funded "experimental medicine" (which is still on-going) and the pseudo-scientific practices and policies influenced by the eugenics movement.
This about as similar what happened to my cousin last month broke every bone in his body but his spine and doctors told everyone he only has so much time to live he can't get any response from him saying he was brain dead and then he was crying and and grabbed my hand and there acting like it wasn't a response when he clearly was responding and we stopped them from pulling the plug and now he's home walking and back to what he's always doing
Hospitals can afford to litigate in the courts for years, and they know that the vast majority of people can not afford to do the same. This is sad and infuriating how common things like this are with no satisfactory result in sight for most victims and their families.
There are over 100,000 people waiting for an organ, and will die if people do not sign up to be organ donors. It's very sad what this organization did, but it does not reflect other organ recovery organizations.
@@SpaceMageKitty Death is the natural conclusion of life. Keeping these people alive who would've otherwise passed on is an attack and affront on the will of God.
what, you'd rather this just get ignored? they tried to go ahead with organ harvest on a live and apparently conscious human being....not only that, but the hospital tried to cover it up. the team that was supposed to harvest refused to do so when signs life showed...though they've accused the program coordinator of ignoring that and attempting to procure another team. that's murder if they'd gone thru with it....
Great. Now I'm questioning if I want to be a donor anymore, if I might be sacrificed. If the healthcare industry wants us to trust and rely on them, they need to be trustworthy!
I’ve been hearing about stories like this since I was little. Even before I could drive. My dad always said never be an organ donor for this exact reason.
This is horrific and it makes me question the ENTIRE program. It is highly unlikely that this man showed absolutely no signs of life for several days and then just suddenly wakes up enough to understand what is happening and begins thrashing around, shoving people away, crying etc. so these drs likely knew this man was NOT dead for days and still chose to try to sacrifice him. Then they see him waking up at the honor walk, if his family noticed him tracking the room and registering what was going on guaranteed the drs and nurses noticed to…but they marched right on anyway fully intent on KILLING this man. It’s only when he starts physically fighting for his life that some of them step back and go…mmm maybe not. The actual hell? What if the signs of life were more subtle? They would have just murdered him. How many other people have they done this to who maybe couldn’t thrash around and actively push them away but were still alive? Or could’ve been saved?
This is the stuff of nightmares and horror movies! My mother told us (her kids) that if she was ever in a coma or an organ donation situation, to NOT let them do it. She was afraid they would lie just to use her as parts. Apparently, her fear is well founded!
I can’t believe… I can but, this should be national news! This is absolutely wild!!!! I will be removing my donor status. No doubt in my mind after the last 5 years that the medical industrial complex is not here to help us
When my son passed, the organ retrieval team tortured my whole family before we even got to see him at the hospital and say goodbye. They were calling everyone over and over again.
After I saw John Oliver do a special on organ donation I immediately removed myself from being a donor since the hospital would see my death as more valuable than me living
Wow, just wow! This story is a real life horror movie!! It's just as bad as the stories you hear about people traveling abroad and ending up in a seedy motel bleeding out from their organs being stolen! The terrible administrators were so hungry to do the harvesting because the lists for organs are so long, but didn't take care with the potential donor. Very sad and scary as hell indeed! 😱
My grandfather died in January of 2020 from cancer & even though he opted NOT to be an organ donor the hospital still asked us if they could harvest his EYES! Ugh
there was astory of a nurse that could hear the doctors saying she was dead..and trying to get the family to let them harvest her organs. She wasn't able at that time to move..however later she was able to. And she lived to tell about it.
“Who am I to go against the medical system” That is exactly what the problem is. The medical system is one big bully. We had arguments with doctors over a few things decades ago. Lost trust and respect. Given the last few years any hope of regaining that trust was completely squashed. “Safe and effective” along with “two weeks the flatten the curve”… nobody should blindly trust medical personnel.
Incentives are critically important. I've often wondered who benefits from this harvesting process, beyond the often nobly stated "patients in need". Who else? And how well? Without proper oversight and transparency, it's inevitable that lives will be lost because of corrupt motives.
NO ORGAN DONATIONS IN MY FAMILY! This is a HUGE business, just like in countries where they pay the poor for body parts! And they don't anesthetize patients, it is a fact that when they begin cutting the organs out, the vitals race. Why would that be? BECAUSE THEY FEEL IT!
They do not, that is a fact. Also, brain death is a made-up term used to get families to comply. Look up Paul Byrne, M.D. You are certainly free to sign up as a donor!
@@MR-fn7rw Look up Dr. Paul Byrne, he has videos on here! Brain death is a made-up term to get families to comply, it's not a medical term. You are certainly free to sign up to be a donor.
Go look up videos by Dr. Paul Byrne and educate yourself. "Brain dead" is not a medical term, it's made up to convince families to comply. Of course, you are free to maintain your donor status!
@@thisis.michelletorres444 Brain death is the permanent, irreversible, and complete loss of brain function, which may include cessation of involuntary activity necessary to sustain life. It differs from persistent vegetative state, in which the person is alive and some autonomic functions remain. It is also distinct from comas as long as some brain and bodily activity and function remain, and it is also not the same as the condition locked-in syndrome. A differential diagnosis can medically distinguish these differing conditions.
check your status in your state! We checked both states we have lived in and one state had us listed as organ donors!. LOG IN with your driver license and check! How dare they add this to a license without consent. Are they getting bonuses for sign ups?
@@danmilosevichhappened to a Russian girl (child) who was traveling with her parents in Turkey. They did a surgery. Removed some organs. She woke up from surgery and told her parents she really wasn't feeling well. Then died within a few hours I believe
@@malovina in cold storage? Did they say what organs? Hard to live without organs. I mean like someone said they woke up and found out they had no heart. Heart comes out, you die. Kidneys you die. Liver youu die. Most are stories, nothing more. Most. Waking up in cold storage?
This had nothing to do with “honoring a patient’s wishes about organ donation.” You need to actually reach that point medically first and that’s the problem. There’s a massive systemic incentive to reach that goal, leading to death declarations for living patients so organs can be harvested. So many facilities and their transplant coordinators place relentless pressure on the next of kin to give final permission that it crosses the bioethics line a hundredfold. When you’re programmed to see dead patients and see them only for their many organs, you’re going to see brain dead patients regardless what your eyes, common sense and medical training say to the contrary; it’s the same as going through life as a hammer. When you do, everyone looks like a nail.
The pure fact that this happened once is enough for me I'm thinking it's happened a whole lot
It has, unfortunately. And that’s coming from their employees 😢.
That’s what I was thinking. This guy started crying so it was a bit more obvious, but what about the ones that are alive but can’t speak or whatever. This is horrible, that poor man.
A lot mate,rich ones are deceiving poor to accept organ donation after brain death
It does.
I’m still not taking myself off the list. I already signed a DND
There's another story of a young man who was declared dead/ready for donation and when his father saw signs of life the hospital staff ignored him so the dad stood by his hospital bed and literally held them off at gunpoint until his son started showing more obvious signs of life they couldn't ignore.
This is why I stopped being an organ donor and told my family to not let anyone do anything to me until you know for sure I'm DEAD dead.
I agree with not being a donor. But organs cannot be harvested from a dead body, that is the truly horrible thing about it. They know the people are alive. They may not be responsive, but they are NOT DEAD!
💯 heard some places are very very pushy about getting donors organs. DISGUSTING $$$$ follow the money. Can't trust hospitals, no over sight. No recourse at all 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
But the government is busy looking their nose in trivial crap.
Make sure your name is off the registry God bless you.
@@thisis.michelletorres444stop lying and exaggerating. Brain death IS DEATH you ignorant fool. A beating heart IS NOT automatically life if there’s brain death. They just keep the body going to avoid the decomposition process because you can’t transplant death into ppl. Smh…. So uneducated.
The battery of questions they make the family answer for medical and social history was enough to take me off the fence and firmly into the never-ever side. The same day you find out your loved one was in a terrible accident and your world is ripped up you are now answering a hundred questions including things like sexual history about that loved one. This also made me cringe at the thought of ever needing to be at the receiving end of a donation because you may not really know what you are getting if the family didn't know the full history or if there was an undiagnosed, undetected infection in the donor.
Why is that hospital official who threatened them to go ahead with the organ retrieval not arrested???!!!
It’s the donor organization, not the hospital. Hospitals are required by law to cooperate with organ procurement organizations. If they don’t, they can be sanctioned and Medicaid/Medicare funds are withheld. In some states OPOs have lobbied to have donation made an advance directive- even though there’s little information/no informed consent when prospective donors sign up. This leaves family with no say. They can’t object to donation.
Dr's are immune to prosecution except on very rare occasion. If you recall dr. Hussel they had an entire playboy on how to put everyone against 1 amazing dr for end of life care (to cover the hospital's incredible overprescribing and many other accusations ). Just like police, blueline gang, nobody speaks out, everyone sticks together except when they have a common target.... for the greater good or whatever.
@@susanoshaughnessy943Policy doesn't override the ethics or laws against killing.
She is most likely a diversity hire and diversity hires are impossible to fire.
@@susanoshaughnessy943I am not sure that makes murder ok.
Several of these people should be arrested for attempted murder.
Cool it with the remarks!
No. The truth is you have to be alive when organs are removed. Face it. Truth is ugly. It IS murder.
@@TheSmark666 no
agreed
I agree 💯
the part left out here is by far the most damning: the coordinator for the organ donation from this man, who is not named, was accused by at least one of the witnesses (staff) of not only dismissing obvious signs of life, but attempting to procure a new set of physicians after the the team present refused entirely to go further with killing Mr. Hoover.
The hospital administration likely turned a blind eye because releasing a patient doesn’t generate revenue. Several transplant surgeries generates a lot of revenue and a positive reputation for completed transplant surgeries.
I was an ER RN for 20 years. The organ donation team are like bats out of hell when they come through, just demanding immediate organ removals. It's like the hospital is afraid of them. someone somewhere is making big benefits for organ donations.
Just renewed my driver license and no longer a organ doner. Do better KY.
@@nelsonhoward3332 very smart move
@@nelsonhoward3332 Check if KY has a registry. Some states require you to remove your name from a registry as well and no one tells us that part!
I can't imagine how many people have died this way without us knowing
Remember earlier this year the story of the little boy who drowned and "wouldn't wake up" from his coma, and later the family took him off life support??? And the family said they were told his organs would help others!? Remember? The entire time I kept thinking this is what they were after!!!
The scariest part is that his family told the news that he DID WAKE UP one time but for some reason "went back into coma"!!! 😡😡😳😳 And I remember having the most horrible feeling that something wasn't right about this whole story..... That poor little 5 year old boy!! 😳🥺
Someone needs to go to jail this is unacceptable
God's Chosen Ones are blameless, faultless, and perfect.
@@TheSmark666perfect, like Uranus?
I agree with you 💯
@@TheSmark666Then you shouldn't have a problem donating YOUR ORGANS
My mom warned me of this for years. She passed this year from cancer. Our experience dealing with the hospitals was horrible. The medical system needs to be completely reformed.
Had similar experiences. She came home despite them, until she didn’t.
All they see are dollar signs flashing
I'm taking myself off the Donor organs list!
Bigot!
I never would be on it. Medicine is meseed up. Evil.
messed up
It's probably much safer
You owe nobody your organs. Nobody.
This is fucking terrifying
Don't be a donor. ua-cam.com/video/U0vMVmysnGk/v-deo.html
This is very disturbing. Bless him. It's unimaginable.
Bless that man snd his relative speaking out.
@@AA-ct7cb Yes! This whole story is very upsetting to hear. I can only imagine how it felt to be the one going through it. I'm glad they're speaking up.
Just think of the people without loved ones who were still alive yet underwent organ retrieval anyway😮
My friend told me years ago that ERs intentionally pretend nothing is wrong with organ donors and send them home including gaslighting them
Only for them to die eventually, then get their organs
And what's even more disturbing is taking controlled substances alter your organs especially your heart, liver and pancreas
I took opioids for pain management and my liver was altered and I had to take water pills with it to flush my kidneys and liver from the opioid
So now you never know, was your kidney really bad, or did they just need it really bad? :)
Remember earlier this year the story of the little boy who drowned and "wouldn't wake up" from his coma, and later the family took him off life support??? And the family said they were told his organs would help others!? Remember? The entire time I kept thinking this is what they were after!!!
The scariest part is that his family told the news that he DID WAKE UP one time but for some reason "went back into coma"!!! 😡😡😳😳 And I remember having the most horrible feeling that something wasn't right about this whole story..... That poor little 5 year old boy!! 😳🥺
They are doing this everywhere!
Thank you all,
for the post & taking the case!
@@bswogger4656 Facts. Nationwide.
@@playsaboutmycatMy late Aunt always believed this !!!! She said if anything happens to her to do all to all to save her life
I've seen first hand the pressure put on families, I had a daily battle telling them no, I literally slept with my arm across my loved one, they wouldn't take no for an answer, he would awaken at times but they literally told me they go off observation, no testing done. I was hoping things had changed, guess not. Btw, recovered and came home with PTSD from it, they do hear what's going on when" not viable"
OMG I’m so sorry 😢 That’s terrifying to think that they can hear as people make decisions over their bodies 😢
I believe you and hospice is evil too!
The pressured the mother of the love of my life. Every hour they came back and told her there was no hope never giving him a chance. It’s like they salivated after his organs and she finally caved. I felt a piece of me die that day. I knew there was still hope left. They stole him from us. Evil wicked bastards.
@@simpleton2090 so very sorry to hear this, I'm sure the pressure was unbearable, you have every right to feel about them as you do and I agree. I liken them to vampires, smiling, friendly, looking right past you at what they really want. Even local news has been shilling for them, no different than shilling for target or a shoe store. Know I'm sending good thoughts to you and wish you peace and comfort
Remember earlier this year the story of the little boy who drowned and "wouldn't wake up" from his coma, and later the family took him off life support??? And the family said they were told his organs would help others!? Remember? The entire time I kept thinking this is what they were after!!!
That’s is the very reason why I chose not to be a donor, I don’t trust these demons!!
What they did was wrong. But most organ recovery teams have multiple death notes to go off of. Please do research and reconsider your decision. ❤️
You're right. This poor guy and his family. I csnt imagine.😢😢😢
I absolutely Indians what you’re saying. While what happened was horrific, it’s INCREDIBLY rare. I’m going to continue to be an organ donor to help others. I hope you do, too.
Stop being antisemitic! You've been reported to the ADL.
Greedy demons! This was once an honorable organization, but greed has now taken over.😢
No oversight means RUN AWAY FROM BEING AN ORGAN DONOR.
*rubs hands together* "COME BACK HERE AND GIVE ME YOUR ORGANS, LESSER HUMAN!"
In 40 years! No oversight in 4 decades! Yikes
I took the organ donor off my drivers license because of stories like this. Last month a Florida doctor killed a patient by removing the patients liver instead of spleen.
That’s an entirely different situation.
That’s wild, hope that doctor goes to jail. Straight up incompetence
These stories are also why I took it off my license.
I took myself off today because of this story
Can you provide a link to that article? I can’t imagine how a doctor mixed that up that is wild.
I'm in my 50's now. Never really considered being an organ donor but recently started thinking about it and then this story comes up. Yea I'll pass.
Yes. ua-cam.com/video/U0vMVmysnGk/v-deo.html
If people are willing to donate their organs why arent hospitals and doctors willing to donate the medical costs
Imagine all the people who had organs harvested and are now dead - who very likely could have probably survived, given more time.... That's spooky shit.
this sort of thing is rare, but yes I've thought just how rare/not rare as there's little oversight. I wouldn't be shocked if some had been comatose yet aware....that they were about to be "harvested" and could do nothing about it. let's HOPE it's very rare but better oversight might shed light on this question...
Most of them would be severely handicapped, and that’s worse than dying. Having to get 24 hour care.
@@Veronica99709 that justifies killing them to harvest organs?
@@austinballard6815 not at all, but most people would not choose that kind of “life”
@@Veronica99709 but that's not for you to decide
In a lot of countries, people are killed for their organs. This is a big busines$
Really? I thought it was just china. Thanks for that info
@suemccann2010 ask Ukrainians - lots of kids are kidnapped for organs, especially now when there is war and chaos, a lot of orphans that nobody is looking for
This also happens in Mexico, and probably in other South American countries, sadly.
I live in Kentucky. I’m taking myself off the organ donor list. I’m sorry to anyone who needs an organ, but you’re not getting it from me.
How many others were killed for their organs????
I kept thinking THIS about that national story earlier this year about the little boy who drowned and was on "life support" and the family mentioned that he woke up once, but later "went back into coma". 🤔🤔🤔 Later they took him off life and the family said they were told his organs would help others!! 😳😳 Remember that story??? The entire time I kept thinking "THEY JUST WANTED HIS ORGANS!!!" They are able to keep people in a "induced coma".
@Runner8617 medical technology is the forbidden fruit
How many of us have been kept alive and shouldn't be and vice versa, luckily my organs won't do any good for anyone anymore
I think about it with the missing children too
Anyone that had anything to do with this should go to prison in every case needs to be looked into now
Reprehensible. I'm sure this is not the only patient. YES. Oversight. Oversight. Oversight
Im changing my license to not being an organ donor now for sure
I changed mine.
Call the actual registry and make sure you were taking off that too
Me too, these stories made me too scared to have it on my license. I'm worried they won't even try to save me.
@@AlexzandriaL 🎯💯
NEVER put your name on an organ donor list!
Be careful of this type of situation. Hospitals make so much money off of organs, they're ready to grab them as soon as they can. When my mother passed, they almost insisted I donate her organs. They were really aggressive about it. I told them no.
We're Jewish and it's against our religion. I believe it's against other religions as well.
thankyou for doing somethjng about this! - a nurse
God bless sister
I’m a retired RN. I am not an organ donor! I worked for almost 46 years! I have heard the horror stories.
i’m not a organ donor, I do not want a autopsy unless absolutely necessary and i told my family to make sure it’s me who goes into the incinerator. They are making patients life prematurely end so they can donate their organs. F this
When she was told to take hi home and make him comfortable he won't live long, was that due to whatever they did?? 😮
I think I want to get off the donor list. Scary!
Hospitals recieve these organs as donations and they turn around and charge the patients needing them hundreds of thousands of dollars for those organs.
I donated my 26 yr old son's organs in 2018, i wish i hadn't when i read a yr later that Transplant orgs weren't transplanting to proposed recipients if they weren't vaxxed..
I've actually been thinking a lot about that. It creates a huge moral hazard where a large part of the population has no incentive at all to participate in organ donation.
I’m so sorry for your loss! That could not have been an easy decision.
That is gruesome. I won’t be an organ donor for other reasons but this helps solidify my decision.
Same here. I'm Jewish and it's against my religion, but even if I weren't, watching this video put me off forever.
The best of arguments against for profit healthcare.
In other systems, the government owns your body or they'll take away all your free shit.
Omg, this is horrible.
They need to be arrested!! They need to lose their medical license!
Removed myself from the donor list, unless theres justice, how can the system be trusted?
These are one of many reasons why i took myself off the donor lists years ago.
I remember my mom telling me about this when she was alive. I never believed her.
Taking myself off of the donor list.
This is exactly why I'm not an organ donor hell nah
If anyone wants to know how truly horrible organ donation is, look up videos by Paul Byrne, M.D.
Worst nightmare 😢 I dont want surgery yikes
I heard the same thing happening to a woman who was drunk, either she got into a accident or it was alcohol poisoning. She showed signs of being alive but they still took her organs. It was revealed by one of the staff that was there at the time
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I'm 63, back when I got my license my father told me NOT sign donor on back because if I'm out somewhere and get in a wreck if somebody important in the area needs an organ that I can supply I'll be dead
This should be a national story!
Human beings are NOT meant to be recycled in my opinion. Big $ for someone.
What????? How could this happen????
HE WASN'T READY????
I will never, ever sign anything saying that my organs can be taken at death. Ever. This is extreme (maybe not so extreme) but even "brain death" diagnoses are suspicious and there have been published concerns over this category of death (so organs can be harvest live) for a long, long time now.
Yes and there are cases where people woke up right before being disconnected from machines after being declared brain dead...I think it is more common than we think. This is terrifying because this guy woke up a few times. Trained specialists knew he was alive. Scary.
taking my name of the donation list
Healthcare has become very questionable since planademic
In your mind maybe. Otherwise this is nothing new. Nothing can be guaranteed when it comes to medical treatment, even with the most basic procedures there's risk and even with the most tested medicine. Be glad you don't live in the middle ages.
Forest Gump Healthcare
I remember a case where a man had testicular Cancer.
He needed the cancerous testicle
removed. Not both of them.
The doctor removed the good one!
Since? Lulz. You missed the past century during the reign of Rockefeller funded "experimental medicine" (which is still on-going) and the pseudo-scientific practices and policies influenced by the eugenics movement.
@@bobgreenfield9158 not what they’re talking about here
This about as similar what happened to my cousin last month broke every bone in his body but his spine and doctors told everyone he only has so much time to live he can't get any response from him saying he was brain dead and then he was crying and and grabbed my hand and there acting like it wasn't a response when he clearly was responding and we stopped them from pulling the plug and now he's home walking and back to what he's always doing
I'm appalled and if I were a donor I wouldn't be any more!! Sue the crap out of them!!!
Hospitals can afford to litigate in the courts for years, and they know that the vast majority of people can not afford to do the same. This is sad and infuriating how common things like this are with no satisfactory result in sight for most victims and their families.
That was just terrible this should have never happened.😭
Way to make more people not want to donate. Great work.
Are you unhappy about that?
There are over 100,000 people waiting for an organ, and will die if people do not sign up to be organ donors. It's very sad what this organization did, but it does not reflect other organ recovery organizations.
@@SpaceMageKitty Death is the natural conclusion of life. Keeping these people alive who would've otherwise passed on is an attack and affront on the will of God.
what, you'd rather this just get ignored? they tried to go ahead with organ harvest on a live and apparently conscious human being....not only that, but the hospital tried to cover it up. the team that was supposed to harvest refused to do so when signs life showed...though they've accused the program coordinator of ignoring that and attempting to procure another team. that's murder if they'd gone thru with it....
@@bobgreenfield9158 if you need an organ don't get upset if you never get one.
This needs to go national..and I would say major reform needs to be done across this country too
Because the family was not told they should. Sue, they should sue them for every penny in that place
Great. Now I'm questioning if I want to be a donor anymore, if I might be sacrificed. If the healthcare industry wants us to trust and rely on them, they need to be trustworthy!
Makes you wonder how many people they did this too.Who were not actually brain dead.This is not a first time incident they've done this before
I’ve been hearing about stories like this since I was little. Even before I could drive. My dad always said never be an organ donor for this exact reason.
We do not know what happens as we die. Nobody has been completely dead and live to tell their story. Can they still feel pain? We do not know.
This is horrific and it makes me question the ENTIRE program. It is highly unlikely that this man showed absolutely no signs of life for several days and then just suddenly wakes up enough to understand what is happening and begins thrashing around, shoving people away, crying etc. so these drs likely knew this man was NOT dead for days and still chose to try to sacrifice him. Then they see him waking up at the honor walk, if his family noticed him tracking the room and registering what was going on guaranteed the drs and nurses noticed to…but they marched right on anyway fully intent on KILLING this man. It’s only when he starts physically fighting for his life that some of them step back and go…mmm maybe not. The actual hell? What if the signs of life were more subtle? They would have just murdered him. How many other people have they done this to who maybe couldn’t thrash around and actively push them away but were still alive? Or could’ve been saved?
I was raised in Wilmore, KY. Have had bad experiences here in Jackson, MS with the UMMC hospital but I'm on Medicaid and can't go anywhere else.
This is the stuff of nightmares and horror movies!
My mother told us (her kids) that if she was ever in a coma or an organ donation situation, to NOT let them do it. She was afraid they would lie just to use her as parts. Apparently, her fear is well founded!
I would like to know about the black market regarding taking organs from folks that have nobody to advocate for them. This story is very dark indeed.
I can’t believe… I can but, this should be national news! This is absolutely wild!!!! I will be removing my donor status. No doubt in my mind after the last 5 years that the medical industrial complex is not here to help us
When my son passed, the organ retrieval team tortured my whole family before we even got to see him at the hospital and say goodbye. They were calling everyone over and over again.
After I saw John Oliver do a special on organ donation I immediately removed myself from being a donor since the hospital would see my death as more valuable than me living
Wow, just wow! This story is a real life horror movie!! It's just as bad as the stories you hear about people traveling abroad and ending up in a seedy motel bleeding out from their organs being stolen! The terrible administrators were so hungry to do the harvesting because the lists for organs are so long, but didn't take care with the potential donor. Very sad and scary as hell indeed! 😱
Monsters, absolute monsters.
Time to get my name off the donor list. 😮
My grandfather died in January of 2020 from cancer & even though he opted NOT to be an organ donor the hospital still asked us if they could harvest his EYES! Ugh
there was astory of a nurse that could hear the doctors saying she was dead..and trying to get the family to let them harvest her organs. She wasn't able at that time to move..however later she was able to. And she lived to tell about it.
Welp that does it. I just removed myself from the donor registry.
I took organ donor off my license decades ago
“Who am I to go against the medical system”
That is exactly what the problem is. The medical system is one big bully. We had arguments with doctors over a few things decades ago. Lost trust and respect. Given the last few years any hope of regaining that trust was completely squashed.
“Safe and effective” along with “two weeks the flatten the curve”… nobody should blindly trust medical personnel.
This is scary. I've been an RN for over a year. Just accepted my dream nursing job, surgical/perioperarive nurse. I hope for changes and reform.
Incentives are critically important. I've often wondered who benefits from this harvesting process, beyond the often nobly stated "patients in need". Who else? And how well? Without proper oversight and transparency, it's inevitable that lives will be lost because of corrupt motives.
Its beyond reform..they need to shut that place down. Period
NO ORGAN DONATIONS IN MY FAMILY! This is a HUGE business, just like in countries where they pay the poor for body parts! And they don't anesthetize patients, it is a fact that when they begin cutting the organs out, the vitals race. Why would that be? BECAUSE THEY FEEL IT!
I am sure they do now, because those retrieving the organs would freak out from the noises and crying from the “brain dead” person.
They do not, that is a fact. Also, brain death is a made-up term used to get families to comply. Look up Paul Byrne, M.D. You are certainly free to sign up as a donor!
@@MR-fn7rw Look up Dr. Paul Byrne, he has videos on here! Brain death is a made-up term to get families to comply, it's not a medical term. You are certainly free to sign up to be a donor.
Go look up videos by Dr. Paul Byrne and educate yourself. "Brain dead" is not a medical term, it's made up to convince families to comply. Of course, you are free to maintain your donor status!
@@thisis.michelletorres444 Brain death is the permanent, irreversible, and complete loss of brain function, which may include cessation of involuntary activity necessary to sustain life. It differs from persistent vegetative state, in which the person is alive and some autonomic functions remain. It is also distinct from comas as long as some brain and bodily activity and function remain, and it is also not the same as the condition locked-in syndrome. A differential diagnosis can medically distinguish these differing conditions.
Everyone in this Hospital involved in this horrendous situation needs to be investigated.
check your status in your state! We checked both states we have lived in and one state had us listed as organ donors!. LOG IN with your driver license and check! How dare they add this to a license without consent. Are they getting bonuses for sign ups?
They knew he was still showing sighns of life before being put on that table thats why two Drs. refused to do the surgery.
That is exactly why I am no longer an organ donor
Scary thing is not first I've heard if ppl actually having organs removed and waking up in cold storage.
Organs removed and waking up?
@@danmilosevichhappened to a Russian girl (child) who was traveling with her parents in Turkey. They did a surgery. Removed some organs. She woke up from surgery and told her parents she really wasn't feeling well. Then died within a few hours I believe
@@malovina in cold storage? Did they say what organs? Hard to live without organs. I mean like someone said they woke up and found out they had no heart. Heart comes out, you die. Kidneys you die. Liver youu die. Most are stories, nothing more. Most. Waking up in cold storage?
Get your name off donor registration list.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
These people want to harvest your skin, whether you're alive or not
God bless this man.
😢Lord have mercy. ✝️🙏🏻💜
I've heard Dr's admit the sum of a person's individual organs is worth much more monetarily to the hospital than the person's life is.
This had nothing to do with “honoring a patient’s wishes about organ donation.” You need to actually reach that point medically first and that’s the problem. There’s a massive systemic incentive to reach that goal, leading to death declarations for living patients so organs can be harvested. So many facilities and their transplant coordinators place relentless pressure on the next of kin to give final permission that it crosses the bioethics line a hundredfold. When you’re programmed to see dead patients and see them only for their many organs, you’re going to see brain dead patients regardless what your eyes, common sense and medical training say to the contrary; it’s the same as going through life as a hammer. When you do, everyone looks like a nail.
I bet the hospital charged the family for the cardiac catheterization too
I never agreed to be an organ donor, suspecting that this could/would happen. That was in 1978. 😸
There was an old episode of Law & Order about this...