*Making a hardwood fence for the miter makes all the difference **MyBest.Tools** Tune the saw with a combination square. Adjust the laser so its in line.😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣See the photos.Every part in this saw is adjustable.😎😭*
If you use the two holes in the saw frame up by the upper guides you could fabricate a blade guard that you could raise and lower a shield to give some protection to the blade. Maybe extend it back to cover some of the saw blade in the back so it don't jump out if it breaks. Good info for over coming a saw shortage!! thanks.
Thank you Thank you. I bought a HF Portable band saw for $99 and I very much like it but would really rather have a vertical saw. I also have a $28 square topped "grinder stand" from HF that has a top very close to the size of your hand made work table. I don't think it would take much to marry the two together. The stand is nice and heavy duty ...perfect for a vertical band saw. I can't wait to build it. And will make a video.
Brilliant Mr. Pete! I've seen dozens of videos on building a stand/ fixture for portable bandsaws and this is by far the simplest and most practical of them all. I have a Milwaukee in my shop and use it frequently. Would love to see your take on a stand for the Black and Decker. Thanks for all your effort, your work is viewed by thousands and is well received by the metal working community. Merry Christmas!
I agree..I don't always have time to watch every video but when I get to them even consecutive band saw or vices I always enjoy them. Mr Pete just needs to stop censoring his own sardonic wit I sense just bubbling under the surface, he's amoung the grownups now and not at the mercy of the PTA.
I saw a youtuber that attempted to make a bandsaw blade narrower for curves, his method ( not osha approved) was using a dremel cut off wheel and as he hand rotated the mounted band, he scored the middle and theoretically would remove the back. If I recall right, he wound up rigging an angle grinder and cut off wheel to complete or on a different blade. I believe I'd buy blade buy the roll and silver solder to length I needed for my 2 portabands I have, I often wish I had a wood tooth blade on my DeWalt cordless one. I made a table similar to yours for my other crappy harbor freight porta band. I use it with a vee block to split copper pipe in half.
This is a great idea, if you go down this path instead of buying a fixed band saw then you have a multi purpose tool, more options without taking up too much space in the workshop. I didn’t even know that these portable band saws existed until a couple of years ago when I saw one on a U Tube video. This would have saved me a lot of work years ago when I was cutting 12mm steel plate with a hacksaw to build my own indexing head for my combination lathe/mill as I couldn’t buy one small enough to fit it and I didn’t have room for a fixed band saw.
Extremely Practical idea which is economical and do-able Sir. Thanks for execution of the project and the Video. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Birender Singh Rawat, New Delhi, India.
all of your videos are well received, sir. you are a legend and even if you did the same project twenty times in a row there would be something to learn from each one.
Great video. Please make a free standing unit. I think this would be a great second option for using this type of saw. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Super idea for those of us that don't have room for a free standing unit. By the way, all the cutting to make this could easily be done with a saber saw or with the Portaband it'self.
Love the Vid, always a brain tickler in there. I did the same (almost) with my Milwaukee @ 6 years ago except I just put a 5" x 5" table on mine. It did require some shimming to get it square to the blade. I opted to cut the slot out the front of mine for ease of blade changes. The Milwaukee has no switch lock so I cut a wedged 2 x 4 to shove in there to lock the switch on and use a foot switch. I just put mine directly in the vice and it has sufficed for all these years and I have never removed the table, still works fine free hand too. I keep threatening to build a stand one day, but why fix what works. I have broken many, many blades and they never come flying out they just stop traveling, but always be careful just the same.
Great idea, worked well. Last year I had to cut several pieces of sheet metal and made a similar attachment out of wood for my jig saw, it has been very useful.
You keep suggesting going over to a neighbor to use their tools. Unfortunately we all don't have neighbors like you. Now we have to figure out how to manage things ourselves... Wait that is probably a good thing. Love your videos! Keep up the good work!
I have neighbors who always want to borrow from me. I've been disappointed in how they took care of my tools, so no more Mr Nice Guy. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.
Made mine with the "pro-sumer" braune Hazard Frought Tools serves me well with Lennox blades... Thank you & what did you do with all them hand planes. Stanley & Record planes are my passion & living 2 towns away from the "Lie Nielsen" factory and showroom they get all my extra cash! Love the channel! I really appreciate all the time & content you provide!
Thank you for watching. Several people told me that freight saw was a good one. Especially the low price. I still have all of those planes, I was going to do a video. Those Nielsen planes are works of art, but pricey
Always fun to watch your videos. A good shop teacher makes it look easy, and explains it in a way that makes it easy for the "students" watching. Keep up the good work. Happy holidays.
Merry Christmas.....Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for showing. When you removed the "table with welded extention to vice", it became clear where the sturdiness in this case matters=The table to the vice(Without the saw). If the bansaw to the table is not 100% sturdy, you concentrating on cutting thin stock, you probably wont notice it especially if you don't have to touch the saw itself using the foot pedal. The force you excert to the blade with the stock, is very near the same level as the two screws connecting the saw to the "table", so all is good.
@@mrpete222 Yikes! I thought mine was bad at $500/month I can barely make the bills. Well wishing you well and prosperity for this Christmas season Mr. Pete.
I did the same, at least similar, thing to my milwaukee several years ago and made a dedicated removable mount to the big bench. It has become the go-to machine for just about everyone who comes into the shop, so I essentially donated the thing to the company. I'm still bugging my employer to get me a Rollin-Saw --- and still waiting. Thanks! GBD
Mr Pete I never know what you mean when you say your last video was not well received. I watch every single video you put out. Even the road trip ones. Even though sometimes I forget to click the like button I enjoy all of your content.
Thank you Mr. Pete. We actually need something like this to use with our Milwaukee portable band saw. The Delta wood cutting bandsaw is just too fast for harder material like steel.
I fitted a similar 12" square table from 1/4" plate onto my Asian horizontal band saw and it has served me well for 35 years. It takes about one minute to remove and replace the table to swap between vertical to horizontal use. It has the same problem of having too wide a blade to do contours. I also have a Portaband (TM) that was bought for a particular project but now spends all it's time on a bottom shelf. I'm going to take a hard look at the Portaband (TM) to see if it can be adapted to use a narrower blade. If that can be done your modification would make it something that I would use frequently.
Thanks Mr Pete, great video and an excellent idea. This is on my list of projects to do this winter. You have, and continue to be an inspiration. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Nice fix to get a vertical bandsaw, the only problem i see is that so many youtubers have the vice slopping arround all over the place. Maybe this fix will kill 2 birds with 1 stone, make a vertical bandsaw and fix the sloppy vice 😉
Great approach to the problem, would like to see the horror freight adaptation as I think it is a more commonly available unit to the average DIY metal worker. Keep the videos coming, have made many of your projects from the surface plate height/ marking gage that I repurposed a part of a VW crankshaft as the base to purchasing the castings and completing the 1inch machine vises. I keep two of the small vises handy as they are super handy at holding and positioning work in the mill
Great video, I have a mid size Chinese 12 inch, 3/4 horse vertical. The trouble with it is, it has really crappie roller guides for the blade... I couldn’t cut a straight line like you did here, to save my life... very frustrating! Keep em coming, I love every video, and Merry Christmas to you and your wife from Las Vegas
Good morning Mr Pete. Would you or one of your faithful viewers please tell me where I can purchase that fine point marker with the extended tip seen here in your video? I would be most appreciative, Thank you Sir.
Nice mod Lyle!! I’ve been meaning to do something like that to my own portable band saw. Guess I’ll have to get to work on it. 👍👍 BTW.....have you given any thought to having a “meet and greet” again for 2020? I (unfortunately) missed the one last year due to surgery. Best regards, Rodg
I built one using a Milwaukee portaband and I made it on a pivot so that it can also be used as a cutoff saw. It bolts to my my welding table along with an auxiliary fence used for cutoff duty. Mine has a main arm for saw attachment which can be used to support a sliding weight but so far it hasn't been needed. Two brackets bolt to the motor and then attach the saw to the arm and the pivot is a 5/8" shaft currently running in reamed holes in the base but I have bronze bushings not installed yet to minimize wear. It's already become one of my most used tools. www.homemadetools.net/forum/attachments/portable-bandsaw-base-bandsaw-vertical-finish.jpg-32356d1575148786
@@RG-gk4yi I guess that you have to be logged into that site to see the photos then. I don't have a web site to post pictures to for general use. Maybe Google photos will work: photos.app.goo.gl/jDyAi7T4iYK8ofYW6
@@mrpete222 It's more useful having both modes readily available but for cutoff duty the pivoting mount must have no slop and must be rigid (without building to battleship standards) so that the blade doesn't wander in the kerf. The platen comes off for cutoff duty but it's only two screws to remove it.
Two points Pete. First point:" You went down to your local High School welding shop". Point number 2: "Picked up two steel plates free of charge". As for Point (1), I didn't think HS shop of any kind was still in existence. Regarding point number 2: Did tax payers buy that stock? If so, I wouldn't brag about it... Just say'n.
@@mrpete222 Sorry about that Pete. I had just finished working on 45 year old water valves the day I posted that whiny crap. I love brass but I hate pluming! I was close to emotional meltdown and should have steered clear of shop buddies. I hope we still are? Wakodahatchee Chris ;-(
This little band saw has turned out to be the best tool purchase I've ever made ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx5ZrqmYO2uJq_nuU8TopyWxVzn8vqmPUL Once doing the set-up as per the included suggestions, this table top tool has been my go-to saw ever since (8 months as of this review). There are few things I wouldn't attempt with this saw. It takes up much less space than my table saw yet delivers twice as much punch. I've used it to create slices of wood no thicker than an 1/16th of inch by using the POWERTEC BS900RF Rip Fence. For small shop projects this tool can't be beat.
That Ark is supposed to be full scale based on the bible. Sadly I don't think they built it to float. :-( The owners of it might be good Christians but they aren't apparently good neighbors. It has been problematic to the taxpayers since they started the deal as the town it is in is small and the encounter uses over 80% of its resources for police, roads, and EMS but they don't want to pay anything back for them as they are a tax free religious venture.
Yes "Norm Abram" was the quintessential builder/teacher ever, IMHO. He actually had only 23 minutes of time, albeit opening and closing minutes of a 30 minute show. He could build a very complex piece of furniture, etc, and dazzle us with hand footwork like NO one else. But the brains behind all the accolades was the producer of the show, Russell Morash-"The New Yankee Workshop". And Norman often mentioned how great Russel was when it comes to directing a "shoot". "None finer!" I have every video; and every time I watch one; I marvel at his "gifts" from Jesus. Like Lyle Peterson, he shares it with all that wishes to watch. Put together; Norm and Russel became, IMHO, THE "standard" of DIY videos. Also, Norm was one of the friendliest persons I EVER met, on several occasions. He gave me an autographed picture and autographed my Shop clock yrs ago; which I shall treasure until the day I die. It will never come down either as long as I live. Also, IMHO, If Norm watches DIY's today, I'd betcha one of his "favor-rites" would be our "Mr Pete". Betcha yuz bottom dollah! and... "Yes-Sir-Ree-Bobweiser!
Those are both other ways to do it, a cut off wheel may not give you the best slot and I prefer to avoid grinding as much as possible, it's slow messy and is bad for the health of your precision metal working machines.
It's possible to cut the slot with the saw itself, I did that on mine that I made a month or so ago. I didn't drill the hole, just a single blade width.
This video is timely. I used a plasma cutter to cut a table for my mini band saw. I had difficulty bending tabs as it was 3/16 and the brake could not handl that thickness.. Some welding and pounding followed. Now to mount, I'm watching your video for details. Alan
Clever, direct, thorough and practical. Thanks for a great video Sir! I only question one aspect, not of your design - Wait! You just mentioned it at 18:33. No blade guides to support the blade near the work, resulting in blade twist and wander....
That's a great idea I have a handheld bandsaw like that I think I will convert into a vertical bandsaw. You could also make blade guards out of aluminum or even plexiglass
Maybe I’m missing something but a new Harbor Freight horizontal band saw is $270. Flip it up and you have a vertices saw anc obviously you make a table just like in this video. So isn’t it kind of a waste of time to modify a Portaband?
To create an intimate fit, for instance to support some of the weight at the handle, I used some narrow channel and a gob of Bondo. Use stretch wrap to isolate the Bondo from the tool. Could look horrible but if you make the Bondo oversize you can grind or rasp away the excess and paint it... also, Mr. Pete, what is the gizmo called that measures the band speed?
I thought that looked like a young Tubalcain. I had no idea that you actually helped Noah build his ark. Did you tell the people about your contribution in building it? I’m sure you were modest and didn’t say anything but you should have said something. People need to know that you’re still around and enjoying yourself. Great video Mr Pete
Everything is good except for that slot! You must remove the table every time you want to change the blade. If you orient the slot from the blade, forward (like the bandsaw you are cutting out the parts with), then you can change blade without removing the table.
Yes i remember Norm Abrams, I watched most of the shows. I stopped watching because he would tell viewers to stop asking to buy the pieces, he had no intention of selling to them. The fact that he didnt want to sell his work wasnt the problem but it was his poor attitude towards viewers who invested hundreds of hours watching him and keeping the show on TV. The attitude was, "yeah i want the show on TV for a salary that viewers provide but you swine, peasant viewers arent worth anything else." He was very elitist and made viewers think ONLY HE had the godly knowledge of woodworking, NOT YOU and that you could never be as good. He made us feel small so I stopped. Julia Child was another one who did that. She would make viewers labor through her long shows about french cooking and then when the table was all set and she would sit down with her dinner guests to eat, she would slam the dining room door on the viewers. She didnt need them anymore! Awful.
Very nice build. The only thing I would do differently is to instead of mound to a vise I would have the flat bar that you had coming down fit into some kind of jig with a groove sufficient to accept the flat bar and hold it firmly. But on second thought the vise is really not a bad idea. Thank you
HF Bauer portable band say is $135. The table top 9" bandsaw is $140. I can see advantages of both. If you want to cut a 2 feet long piece of bar in half, the table top saw won't do it where as the portable is not limited in that direction. In the other hand, if you want to make a long cut, say cutting a piece of plate slightly larger than what he used for the table in half, that won't fit through the converted portable saw. The beauty of this project would be if you already have a portable or find a good used one at a garage sale, you can make the conversion.
If you had made the slot for the blade from the opposite edge (front) and clipped the left rear corner slightly (for blade clearance), would it be possible to make blade changes without removing the saw from the table?
I hope you know that the "ark exhibit" is a complete work of fiction. From it's appearance on the outside to the displays on the inside, it is a representation of what some people's imaginations suggest that a purely mythical story might look like. The flood myth is found in many, but not all, ancient cultures. For instance, there is no record of a global flood in Egypt. Animals that exist only in the fossil record are depicted as being contemporary with humans. There is so much about this exhibit that is not only non-representative of, but also incompatible with the natural history of the globe we stand on, that the only appropriate response is laughter and ridicule.
Why not use the porta-band as it was meant to be used when it's time to cut the slot, round the corners and cut off the clamping post? Clamp the work piece in a vise and hold the porta-band in your hand and make your cuts. I'm also curious why you attached the post to the table by tapping holes in the table, but chose to run the bolt through the table to attach it to the saw, requiring a countersink to make the heads flush? Do you think that a narrower blade, soldered up from a broken blade, would track on those wheels? Really enjoy your videos and intend to make one of these for my HF saw. Never occurred to me to vise mount it before and I just didn't have room for a floor mount or bench top setup.
good build/discussion.....I hope readers will view my comment and learn....this method of making a vertical bandsaw is at the expense of access to two tools (vise and handheld saw) ...to use the vise, you have to remove the bandsaw from the vise, to use the bandsaw handheld you have to remove it from the vise and remove the table....IMO with just a small amount of design/build the unit can have it own stand with safe adjustable table and be quickly changed (without unbolting) back to a hand held bandsaw.... a vise held method, there is just too much frustration...Murphy’s Law the setup will alway be wrong at the time when vise or saw is needed....
You can also make a square tubing stand like I have that you can mount many diffrent thing's to it and put them away when not in use my square tubing stand I can sleeve in cutters, hammers dollies, vice, shinker, bender what ever you can think of mounting to square tubing it will mount on my stand. When the tools are not in use I put them away or you can have a few square tubing stands and have your tools sitting out.
Suggest that you reverse the direction of the slot on the plate. If you make the slot 180 out from where it is you can change the blade without taking the table off. especially if you need to shim the plate to get it square.
If you're doing so much metal work that you need a metal cutting bandsaw you probably have a MIG welder or stick welder, if so just weld a metal tab on to the bottom of that large plate and bolt it up as if it were the small plate that way you don't have four screws to worry about coming loose, you only have two. Also it should be a piece of cake to transfer those two bolt holes onto the metal tab before you weld it.
I would always get after the apprentices for not paying attention to following the layout line on the band saw. I had one tell me one time that "He only touched the line once, when he crossed over it." I will always remember that!
*Making a hardwood fence for the miter makes all the difference **MyBest.Tools** Tune the saw with a combination square. Adjust the laser so its in line.😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣See the photos.Every part in this saw is adjustable.😎😭*
very very working..thanks for your time
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I didn't quite get everythig alighned but it works. I have a foot switch too. I also rounded the corners.
Good job.
great idea sir!
Thanks Mr. Pete. I saw what you did there
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Good idea.
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New Years wish, metal band saw like Mr. Pete!
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very clever!!! Excellent way to get the most out of your tool money
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Great video..thanks
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band saws are great
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Nice idea,I like it!
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If you use the two holes in the saw frame up by the upper guides you could fabricate a blade guard that you could raise and lower a shield to give some protection to the blade. Maybe extend it back to cover some of the saw blade in the back so it don't jump out if it breaks. Good info for over coming a saw shortage!! thanks.
Good idea
Thank you Thank you. I bought a HF Portable band saw for $99 and I very much like it but would really rather have a vertical saw. I also have a $28 square topped "grinder stand" from HF that has a top very close to the size of your hand made work table. I don't think it would take much to marry the two together. The stand is nice and heavy duty ...perfect for a vertical band saw. I can't wait to build it. And will make a video.
Great idea, make one. And make a video
@@mrpete222 Hey I just found this fellow's video channel. You will probably like it ...ua-cam.com/video/otSjut1iGGk/v-deo.html
You got that right now budget but high in craftyness can make many diffrent tools out of a few tool's.
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Brilliant Mr. Pete! I've seen dozens of videos on building a stand/ fixture for portable bandsaws and this is by far the simplest and most practical of them all. I have a Milwaukee in my shop and use it frequently. Would love to see your take on a stand for the Black and Decker. Thanks for all your effort, your work is viewed by thousands and is well received by the metal working community. Merry Christmas!
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I agree..I don't always have time to watch every video but when I get to them even consecutive band saw or vices I always enjoy them. Mr Pete just needs to stop censoring his own sardonic wit I sense just bubbling under the surface,
he's amoung the grownups now and not at the mercy of the PTA.
I saw a youtuber that attempted to make a bandsaw blade narrower for curves, his method ( not osha approved) was using a dremel cut off wheel and as he hand rotated the mounted band, he scored the middle and theoretically would remove the back. If I recall right, he wound up rigging an angle grinder and cut off wheel to complete or on a different blade.
I believe I'd buy blade buy the roll and silver solder to length I needed for my 2 portabands I have, I often wish I had a wood tooth blade on my DeWalt cordless one. I made a table similar to yours for my other crappy harbor freight porta band. I use it with a vee block to split copper pipe in half.
That sounds like a good idea
This is a great idea, if you go down this path instead of buying a fixed band saw then you have a multi purpose tool, more options without taking up too much space in the workshop. I didn’t even know that these portable band saws existed until a couple of years ago when I saw one on a U Tube video. This would have saved me a lot of work years ago when I was cutting 12mm steel plate with a hacksaw to build my own indexing head for my combination lathe/mill as I couldn’t buy one small enough to fit it and I didn’t have room for a fixed band saw.
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Merry christmas mr.Pete and thank you 🙏🏻 for all that you have given over the past year.. Thank you
Thank you, and merry Christmas
Extremely Practical idea which is economical and do-able Sir. Thanks for execution of the project and the Video. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Birender Singh Rawat, New Delhi, India.
Thank you, and merry Christmas
I like the idea of jigs that mount to the vise. Great concept. Thanks for sharing.
Genesis 4:22 Tubalcain
Great Idea!
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Very nice, i am concerned about the weight of the saw being secured by just the 2 screws . Time will tell
all of your videos are well received, sir. you are a legend and even if you did the same project twenty times in a row there would be something to learn from each one.
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For those of us who has limited space or who shop is also the family garage, this is a great idea.
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Great video. Please make a free standing unit. I think this would be a great second option for using this type of saw. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Thank you, I may do that
My vote is: Great Idea!
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Great project, thanks for sharing.
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Great idea, thanks for taking the time to share your experience. Really good editing and filming as well.
Thank you very much for noticing that
Super idea for those of us that don't have room for a free standing unit. By the way, all the cutting to make this could easily be done with a saber saw or with the Portaband it'self.
My thinking exactly.
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Well Thank you Pete, I just got myself and older Porter-Cable PortaBand and that's exactly what I had planned for it. Cheers!
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It's always a good time for Mr.Pete.on the front row in my seat.
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Love the Vid, always a brain tickler in there. I did the same (almost) with my Milwaukee @ 6 years ago except I just put a 5" x 5" table on mine. It did require some shimming to get it square to the blade. I opted to cut the slot out the front of mine for ease of blade changes. The Milwaukee has no switch lock so I cut a wedged 2 x 4 to shove in there to lock the switch on and use a foot switch. I just put mine directly in the vice and it has sufficed for all these years and I have never removed the table, still works fine free hand too. I keep threatening to build a stand one day, but why fix what works. I have broken many, many blades and they never come flying out they just stop traveling, but always be careful just the same.
I like your idea of the slot in the front for blade change. That never occurred to me
Great idea, worked well. Last year I had to cut several pieces of sheet metal and made a similar attachment out of wood for my jig saw, it has been very useful.
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Curious why you didn’t cut the slot out the front edge of the table. Would have made replacing blades easier I suspect. Great video, as usual.
Never thought of it
Great idea! I might build one. I look forward to the weekend and your videos.
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You keep suggesting going over to a neighbor to use their tools. Unfortunately we all don't have neighbors like you. Now we have to figure out how to manage things ourselves... Wait that is probably a good thing. Love your videos! Keep up the good work!
Yes, I do not want anyone using my band size because they instantly ruin the blade.
I have neighbors who always want to borrow from me. I've been disappointed in how they took care of my tools, so no more Mr Nice Guy. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.
Made mine with the "pro-sumer" braune Hazard Frought Tools serves me well with Lennox blades... Thank you & what did you do with all them hand planes. Stanley & Record planes are my passion & living 2 towns away from the "Lie Nielsen" factory and showroom they get all my extra cash! Love the channel! I really appreciate all the time & content you provide!
Thank you for watching. Several people told me that freight saw was a good one. Especially the low price. I still have all of those planes, I was going to do a video. Those Nielsen planes are works of art, but pricey
Always fun to watch your videos. A good shop teacher makes it look easy, and explains it in a way that makes it easy for the "students" watching. Keep up the good work. Happy holidays.
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Merry Christmas.....Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks for showing. When you removed the "table with welded extention to vice", it became clear where the sturdiness in this case matters=The table to the vice(Without the saw).
If the bansaw to the table is not 100% sturdy, you concentrating on cutting thin stock, you probably wont notice it especially if you don't have to touch the saw itself using the foot pedal.
The force you excert to the blade with the stock, is very near the same level as the two screws connecting the saw to the "table", so all is good.
I like it. I might just try it myself.
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A good incentive project & a Very Merry Christmas too
Thank you, and merry Christmas to you
What is the reason for not making a table that allows the band to naturally straighten out again?
Great for me. My SS retirement doesn't leave much for large tool purchases so this is perfect.
My SS benefit is $78 a month after Medicare is taken out. That’s why I am so cheap
@@mrpete222 Yikes! I thought mine was bad at $500/month I can barely make the bills. Well wishing you well and prosperity for this Christmas season Mr. Pete.
I did the same, at least similar, thing to my milwaukee several years ago and made a dedicated removable mount to the big bench. It has become the go-to machine for just about everyone who comes into the shop, so I essentially donated the thing to the company. I'm still bugging my employer to get me a Rollin-Saw --- and still waiting. Thanks! GBD
Sounds like you had a good idea
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I never know what you mean when you say your last video was not well received. I watch every single video you put out. Even the road trip ones. Even though sometimes I forget to click the like button I enjoy all of your content.
LOL. I simply mean not that many views considering how much time I put on on it.
Thank you Mr. Pete. We actually need something like this to use with our Milwaukee portable band saw. The Delta wood cutting bandsaw is just too fast for harder material like steel.
You are absolutely 100% correct
A person could change blades while assembled and held in the vise if the slot was before the blade
Excellent design and execution, Lyle. 👼🎄☃️🎅
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Awesome 👍 Please do lesson on making the stand.. Would be interesting to see... Thanks for teaching us Mr Pete..
Maybe I will. But now I am discouraged, because someone accuse me of stealing the metal from the school
I love the foot switch idea. That is going to be so damn handy.
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I do want to take my kids to the ark!! Looks amazing!!
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I fitted a similar 12" square table from 1/4" plate onto my Asian horizontal band saw and it has served me well for 35 years. It takes about one minute to remove and replace the table to swap between vertical to horizontal use. It has the same problem of having too wide a blade to do contours. I also have a Portaband (TM) that was bought for a particular project but now spends all it's time on a bottom shelf. I'm going to take a hard look at the Portaband (TM) to see if it can be adapted to use a narrower blade. If that can be done your modification would make it something that I would use frequently.
I imagine you could machine a groove in the wheels so as not to foul the teeth of a narrow blade and not stop you reverting back to a wide one.
Good idea, never thought of adapting it to a Narrower or blade
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Thanks Mr Pete, great video and an excellent idea. This is on my list of projects to do this winter. You have, and continue to be an inspiration. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Thank you very much and merry Christmas
Nice fix to get a vertical bandsaw, the only problem i see is that so many youtubers have the vice slopping arround all over the place. Maybe this fix will kill 2 birds with 1 stone, make a vertical bandsaw and fix the sloppy vice 😉
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Great approach to the problem, would like to see the horror freight adaptation as I think it is a more commonly available unit to the average DIY metal worker. Keep the videos coming, have made many of your projects from the surface plate height/ marking gage that I repurposed a part of a VW crankshaft as the base to purchasing the castings and completing the 1inch machine vises. I keep two of the small vises handy as they are super handy at holding and positioning work in the mill
Thank you very much for watching on making the projects. Merry Christmas
Great video, I have a mid size Chinese 12 inch, 3/4 horse vertical. The trouble with it is, it has really crappie roller guides for the blade... I couldn’t cut a straight line like you did here, to save my life... very frustrating! Keep em coming, I love every video, and Merry Christmas to you and your wife from Las Vegas
None of those saws will cut straight
Good morning Mr Pete. Would you or one of your faithful viewers please tell me where I can purchase that fine point marker with the extended tip seen here in your video? I would be most appreciative, Thank you Sir.
They were a gift to me. I do not know where to buy them
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Nice mod Lyle!! I’ve been meaning to do something like that to my own portable band saw. Guess I’ll have to get to work on it. 👍👍 BTW.....have you given any thought to having a “meet and greet” again for 2020? I (unfortunately) missed the one last year due to surgery. Best regards, Rodg
Yes, get started. Not sure about the next meet and greet. Might not be till 2021. And that’s if I’m still kicking
I built one using a Milwaukee portaband and I made it on a pivot so that it can also be used as a cutoff saw. It bolts to my my welding table along with an auxiliary fence used for cutoff duty. Mine has a main arm for saw attachment which can be used to support a sliding weight but so far it hasn't been needed. Two brackets bolt to the motor and then attach the saw to the arm and the pivot is a 5/8" shaft currently running in reamed holes in the base but I have bronze bushings not installed yet to minimize wear. It's already become one of my most used tools.
www.homemadetools.net/forum/attachments/portable-bandsaw-base-bandsaw-vertical-finish.jpg-32356d1575148786
I'd like to see the build but your link is not working.
@@RG-gk4yi I guess that you have to be logged into that site to see the photos then. I don't have a web site to post pictures to for general use.
Maybe Google photos will work: photos.app.goo.gl/jDyAi7T4iYK8ofYW6
Thank you, I will check that out
@@mrpete222 It's more useful having both modes readily available but for cutoff duty the pivoting mount must have no slop and must be rigid (without building to battleship standards) so that the blade doesn't wander in the kerf. The platen comes off for cutoff duty but it's only two screws to remove it.
Two points Pete. First point:" You went down to your local High School welding shop". Point number 2: "Picked up two steel plates free of charge". As for Point (1), I didn't think HS shop of any kind was still in existence. Regarding point number 2: Did tax payers buy that stock? If so, I wouldn't brag about it... Just say'n.
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@@mrpete222 Sorry about that Pete. I had just finished working on 45 year old water valves the day I posted that whiny crap. I love brass but I hate pluming! I was close to emotional meltdown and should have steered clear of shop buddies. I hope we still are? Wakodahatchee Chris ;-(
This little band saw has turned out to be the best tool purchase I've ever made ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx5ZrqmYO2uJq_nuU8TopyWxVzn8vqmPUL Once doing the set-up as per the included suggestions, this table top tool has been my go-to saw ever since (8 months as of this review). There are few things I wouldn't attempt with this saw. It takes up much less space than my table saw yet delivers twice as much punch. I've used it to create slices of wood no thicker than an 1/16th of inch by using the POWERTEC BS900RF Rip Fence. For small shop projects this tool can't be beat.
That Ark is supposed to be full scale based on the bible. Sadly I don't think they built it to float. :-( The owners of it might be good Christians but they aren't apparently good neighbors. It has been problematic to the taxpayers since they started the deal as the town it is in is small and the encounter uses over 80% of its resources for police, roads, and EMS but they don't want to pay anything back for them as they are a tax free religious venture.
I knew there was a reason I don't mind waking up at 330am... It's cause I can be one of the first to see the new Mr Pete Videos!
Thank you, that was funny
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Yes "Norm Abram" was the quintessential builder/teacher ever, IMHO. He actually had only 23 minutes of time, albeit opening and closing minutes of a 30 minute show. He could build a very complex piece of furniture, etc, and dazzle us with hand footwork like NO one else. But the brains behind all the accolades was the producer of the show, Russell Morash-"The New Yankee Workshop". And Norman often mentioned how great Russel was when it comes to directing a "shoot". "None finer!" I have every video; and every time I watch one; I marvel at his "gifts" from Jesus. Like Lyle Peterson, he shares it with all that wishes to watch.
Put together; Norm and Russel became, IMHO, THE "standard" of DIY videos. Also, Norm was one of the friendliest persons I EVER met, on several occasions. He gave me an autographed picture and autographed my Shop clock yrs ago; which I shall treasure until the day I die. It will never come down either as long as I live.
Also, IMHO, If Norm watches DIY's today, I'd betcha one of his "favor-rites" would be our "Mr Pete". Betcha yuz bottom dollah! and...
"Yes-Sir-Ree-Bobweiser!
That’s a great story about norm. I would love to meet him someday
Cut the slot with a thick angle grinder cut off wheel. Why did you drill clearance holes for the screws instead of tapping the original plate ?
Those are both other ways to do it, a cut off wheel may not give you the best slot and I prefer to avoid grinding as much as possible, it's slow messy and is bad for the health of your precision metal working machines.
Yes, I avoid grinding at all costs
A pretty good cut can be made with a hand held jig saw if you take your time and are careful.
The plate on the saw was too thin to tap.
It's possible to cut the slot with the saw itself, I did that on mine that I made a month or so ago. I didn't drill the hole, just a single blade width.
This video is timely. I used a plasma cutter to cut a table for my mini band saw. I had difficulty bending tabs as it was 3/16 and the brake could not handl that thickness.. Some welding and pounding followed. Now to mount, I'm watching your video for details.
Alan
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Another very good and money saving video!! Thanks Mr. Pete. One thing "Deep Throat" LOL!!!!!!!
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas to you and your family
This guy kind of sounds like Bob Uecker ( Announcer for the Milwaukee Brewers).
Clever, direct, thorough and practical. Thanks for a great video Sir! I only question one aspect, not of your design - Wait! You just mentioned it at 18:33. No blade guides to support the blade near the work, resulting in blade twist and wander....
That's a great idea I have a handheld bandsaw like that I think I will convert into a vertical bandsaw. You could also make blade guards out of aluminum or even plexiglass
Maybe I’m missing something but a new Harbor Freight horizontal band saw is $270. Flip it up and you have a vertices saw anc obviously you make a table just like in this video. So isn’t it kind of a waste of time to modify a Portaband?
Nice setup, everybody needs this setup. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for calling yesterday. That made my day
@@mrpete222 Same here. BFF's have to look out for each other.
My tool rest is too small and I have to redo it , perhaps you mounted yours backwards making blade changes difficult
I did something similar with my harbor freight. But I just mounted it to a steel bench. Same principle.
To create an intimate fit, for instance to support some of the weight at the handle, I used some narrow channel and a gob of Bondo. Use stretch wrap to isolate the Bondo from the tool. Could look horrible but if you make the Bondo oversize you can grind or rasp away the excess and paint it... also, Mr. Pete, what is the gizmo called that measures the band speed?
Thank you. I'm inspired to do this for my portable saw.
Came back to this since I just got the Horror Freight version and want to make a mount. Also, the ARK is on my bucket list before it is dirt nap time.
I thought that looked like a young Tubalcain. I had no idea that you actually helped Noah build his ark. Did you tell the people about your contribution in building it? I’m sure you were modest and didn’t say anything but you should have said something. People need to know that you’re still around and enjoying yourself. Great video Mr Pete
Everything is good except for that slot! You must remove the table every time you want to change the blade. If you orient the slot from the blade, forward (like the bandsaw you are cutting out the parts with), then you can change blade without removing the table.
"A bus trip for old people." 😸 Oh man, you always make me laugh Mr. Pete.
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AvE is funny, but Mr. Pete makes me laugh out loud.
Yes i remember Norm Abrams, I watched most of the shows. I stopped watching because he would tell viewers to stop asking to buy the pieces, he had no intention of selling to them. The fact that he didnt want to sell his work wasnt the problem but it was his poor attitude towards viewers who invested hundreds of hours watching him and keeping the show on TV. The attitude was, "yeah i want the show on TV for a salary that viewers provide but you swine, peasant viewers arent worth anything else." He was very elitist and made viewers think ONLY HE had the godly knowledge of woodworking, NOT YOU and that you could never be as good. He made us feel small so I stopped. Julia Child was another one who did that. She would make viewers labor through her long shows about french cooking and then when the table was all set and she would sit down with her dinner guests to eat, she would slam the dining room door on the viewers. She didnt need them anymore! Awful.
You know those of us who don't have bandsaws and are contemplating this build , looked at the slot cutting, corner rounding and said "angle grinder".😂
Very nice build. The only thing I would do differently is to instead of mound to a vise I would have the flat bar that you had coming down fit into some kind of jig with a groove sufficient to accept the flat bar and hold it firmly. But on second thought the vise is really not a bad idea. Thank you
HF Bauer portable band say is $135. The table top 9" bandsaw is $140. I can see advantages of both. If you want to cut a 2 feet long piece of bar in half, the table top saw won't do it where as the portable is not limited in that direction. In the other hand, if you want to make a long cut, say cutting a piece of plate slightly larger than what he used for the table in half, that won't fit through the converted portable saw. The beauty of this project would be if you already have a portable or find a good used one at a garage sale, you can make the conversion.
If you had made the slot for the blade from the opposite edge (front) and clipped the left rear corner slightly (for blade clearance), would it be possible to make blade changes without removing the saw from the table?
I hope you know that the "ark exhibit" is a complete work of fiction. From it's appearance on the outside to the displays on the inside, it is a representation of what some people's imaginations suggest that a purely mythical story might look like. The flood myth is found in many, but not all, ancient cultures. For instance, there is no record of a global flood in Egypt. Animals that exist only in the fossil record are depicted as being contemporary with humans. There is so much about this exhibit that is not only non-representative of, but also incompatible with the natural history of the globe we stand on, that the only appropriate response is laughter and ridicule.
Why not use the porta-band as it was meant to be used when it's time to cut the slot, round the corners and cut off the clamping post? Clamp the work piece in a vise and hold the porta-band in your hand and make your cuts. I'm also curious why you attached the post to the table by tapping holes in the table, but chose to run the bolt through the table to attach it to the saw, requiring a countersink to make the heads flush? Do you think that a narrower blade, soldered up from a broken blade, would track on those wheels? Really enjoy your videos and intend to make one of these for my HF saw. Never occurred to me to vise mount it before and I just didn't have room for a floor mount or bench top setup.
good build/discussion.....I hope readers will view my comment and learn....this method of making a vertical bandsaw is at the expense of access to two tools (vise and handheld saw) ...to use the vise, you have to remove the bandsaw from the vise, to use the bandsaw handheld you have to remove it from the vise and remove the table....IMO with just a small amount of design/build the unit can have it own stand with safe adjustable table and be quickly changed (without unbolting) back to a hand held bandsaw.... a vise held method, there is just too much frustration...Murphy’s Law the setup will alway be wrong at the time when vise or saw is needed....
You make some good points. But of course I have many vises. And I guess you could say several bandsaws.
mrpete222 TRUTH... my comment was for hobbyists that don’t have much tools or build/shop use experience
Those portable bandsaws are definitely more sturdy than most bench top bandsaws
You could have used a 3/16 drill bit by taping it slightly without braking the drill bit
Tubalcain: "This is a picture of me in my youth."
A quarter million subscribers don't bat a eye learning that Tubalcain helped build the ark.
And he hasn't aged much.
I like the milwaukee plus they make a stand for it . You can buy a up wright stand or a chop type they sell both kinds .
You can also make a square tubing stand like I have that you can mount many diffrent thing's to it and put them away when not in use my square tubing stand I can sleeve in cutters, hammers dollies, vice, shinker, bender what ever you can think of mounting to square tubing it will mount on my stand. When the tools are not in use I put them away or you can have a few square tubing stands and have your tools sitting out.
Neat Mr. Pete. I wouldn't have thought it would be that easy. My 1 car garage requires portable.
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Suggest that you reverse the direction of the slot on the plate. If you make the slot 180 out from where it is you can change the blade without taking the table off. especially if you need to shim the plate to get it square.
If you're doing so much metal work that you need a metal cutting bandsaw you probably have a MIG welder or stick welder, if so just weld a metal tab on to the bottom of that large plate and bolt it up as if it were the small plate that way you don't have four screws to worry about coming loose, you only have two.
Also it should be a piece of cake to transfer those two bolt holes onto the metal tab before you weld it.
I would always get after the apprentices for not paying attention to following the layout line on the band saw. I had one tell me one time that "He only touched the line once, when he crossed over it." I will always remember that!
Hey Mr Pete, after using this setup for a while, what size table do you think is the best for these porta bands?