Huawei is killing Apple in China: the Kirin chip, the Mate-60, government iPhone bans, and now Pura

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • Apple (AAPL) is getting hammered from all sides in China, the world's largest smartphone market. Huawei, its chief rival in China, shocked the market last year by producing a 7-nanometer chip and a new line of smart devices called the Mate 60.
    The Mate 60 immediately grabbed market share from Apple, leading to a sharp drop in their Q1 results.
    Then, the Chinese government announced that iPhones would be banned for use by government officials, including municipal-level authorities and agencies, and state-owned firms.
    Huawei's new Pura-70 is aimed at Apple's high-end users. Typically smartphone manufacturers compete against Apple on the basis of price: comparable features, but at steep discounts to the iPhone. But Huawei's new offering is priced almost the same, and features state-of-the-art camera aperture technology that is novel to smartphones. They have priced the -70 at just a slight discount to the iPhone 15, but at parity for the premium models. Their pricing strategy implies that Huawei's Pura-70 is equal on the basis of features and quality, and they are going after the highest-margin consumers.
    Apple now faces formidable competition from Huawei on the mass-market side with the Mate-60, on the high end with the Pura-70, while under the cloud of the Chinese government's restrictions on iPhone purchases by government employees, state-owned firms--and anyone who hopes to do business with them.
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  • @vidsurf88
    @vidsurf88 5 місяців тому +189

    Karma... this is what happens when you unfairly jail the daughter of the CEO and aim to destroy his business ... as a father , i can understand and would mobilize everything to hit back...

    • @shamuratov
      @shamuratov 5 місяців тому +2

      I was unaware about it, who was jailed??

    • @fastcx
      @fastcx 5 місяців тому +3

      @@shamuratov current CEO, daughter of previous CEO.

    • @haniahannslew4108
      @haniahannslew4108 5 місяців тому +4

      Totally agree 👍

    • @haniahannslew4108
      @haniahannslew4108 5 місяців тому

      @@shamuratov Huawei’s daughter was arrested for ransom by Trump administration when she was transferred through Canada’s airport. Trump hired Canada as a hit man to do the job.

    • @Withnail1969
      @Withnail1969 5 місяців тому +4

      that was such bullshit, outrageous.

  • @Ace1000ks19751982
    @Ace1000ks19751982 5 місяців тому +176

    I wish I could buy a Huawei phone here, but I can't because it is banned here. Back in the 1980s, the US govt tried to ban Japanese automobiles, because they were inexpensive and very high quality. The US automotive industry lobbied congress to put tariffs on Japanese automobiles, and they did. People still bought them, because they were reliable and inexpensive.
    Now instead of allowing in competition, they just ban it. They banned Huawei 5G telecomm equipment, Huawei phones, and now they are putting trade barriers on Chinese EVs. Trade barriers for Chinese EVs isn't enough, so they are trying to ban the import of those EVs. They are trying to ban TikTok.
    In the media, you just see a lot of anti-China, and anti-Chinese hysteria. They are just painting a negative image on Chinese people, and China as a whole.
    I don't see why people in China should buy American brands. In my humble opinion, they should stop buying US brands, because they are funding these politicians in the US by making US equity markets go up. These politicians want to play on the anti-China hysteria to win points, so the people of China shouldn't be funding people that harm them and their interests.

    • @K1pp3rs
      @K1pp3rs 5 місяців тому

      I would say China buys a ton of US made item, then have those companies lobby for China in the States. The system is corrupt in the States, just play their game. It isn’t like Americans will realise their freedom is based on lobbyists, and big corporates.

    • @DJs021
      @DJs021 5 місяців тому +30

      Mainland Chinese don't fancy American product, if we talk about automobile, they preferred German brand. As for handset, they are definitely shifting away from Apple but still there some rich punk wanted it as symbol of status/wealth. Just like my niece studying at Taiwan, buying the latest Apple model because she can't lose face to her schoolmates.
      The only thing that mainland Chinese obsessed with America is living the "America dream". All rural folk insist on their next of kin to migrate into "Mei Guo" because they were too indoctrinated or brainwashed as country of opportunities and wealth.
      Our society are so skewed that mainland Chinese wanted to migrate into America while American wanted to leave for China and Asia, Malaysian wanted to leave for Singapore, Singaporean wanted to leave for Canada + Australia, Australian wanted to leave for HK + China, Hongkies wanted to leave for Canada.
      People from Asia wanted to leave for the West but not knowing today isn't 60-80' where Asian is welcome(as cheap labor). What's the purpose living at hostility country and getting humiliated daily.

    • @yaoliang1580
      @yaoliang1580 5 місяців тому

      It's getting very dangerous for Chinese living in the US now due to increasing racist attacks

    • @Ace1000ks19751982
      @Ace1000ks19751982 5 місяців тому +12

      @@DJs021 The image that people get about the US is from the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, and early 2000s. Today, it is a very different place.

    • @K1pp3rs
      @K1pp3rs 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DJs021 I agree with 90 percent of that, except for Apple products. Settled back down with iOS, and it’s just so much easier to integrate across with laptop / other Apple devices. It ain’t just about “face”.

  • @pinotnoir3654
    @pinotnoir3654 5 місяців тому +182

    I'm an Android guy. Can't stand Apple's closed system. Looking at a OnePlus now to replace my Samsung. If only Huawei can be bought here I'd get one right now.

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 5 місяців тому +8

      Online store

    • @DailyBeatings
      @DailyBeatings 5 місяців тому +18

      Highly recommend OnePlus. I have a OnePlus 7 Pro and it works flawless even after 4+ years plus Oxygen OS is way better then Samsung's bloatware filled UI...🤣

    • @FredGuia-s1p
      @FredGuia-s1p 5 місяців тому +9

      Huawei has its own OS, not Android anymore

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 5 місяців тому +2

      Only issues I can see is if they hit you with import duties and taxes
      And will it be compatible with your cell phone provider? If anyone knows?
      But then my guess is worst case you are paying about the same price if some retailer had imported it in and marked it up for sale at their store

    • @chestnutridge4187
      @chestnutridge4187 5 місяців тому +5

      Had OnePlus 12 and Watch 2 for several month, can not be happier!

  • @infernaliron2085
    @infernaliron2085 5 місяців тому +425

    I want Huawei phones in US. Congress deprives my consumer freedom to choose

    • @banshong3997
      @banshong3997 5 місяців тому +41

      You used to think you lived in a democracy but it work in one. Guess what you didn't even live in one😂😂😂

    • @thinkingaloud5379
      @thinkingaloud5379 5 місяців тому

      Soon Congress will block you from buying value for money Chinese electric cars....

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 5 місяців тому

      US believes in "free market" only when they are winning...otherwise it's "national security concern" or now "overcapacity" lol!

    • @verypleasantguy
      @verypleasantguy 5 місяців тому

      The US Congress has lost all the American spirit.
      It no longer represents and works for the people of USA.

    • @Dordord
      @Dordord 5 місяців тому +53

      Dont ask what your congress can do for you.
      Ask what your congress can do for IS REAL

  • @Truthstelling
    @Truthstelling 5 місяців тому +159

    Good to let these arrogant politicians have a taste of their own medicine. Cooperation is always better than sanction

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC 5 місяців тому

      sanction is cutting down his own big trees, smart plant smile

  • @mikewang7955
    @mikewang7955 5 місяців тому +145

    Downstairs American, you live in America but you do not have freedom to buy better products and it is ridiculous.

    • @Ace1000ks19751982
      @Ace1000ks19751982 5 місяців тому +24

      There really isn't much freedom. People vote for the same crappy two parties which aren't much different from each other. People are given a choice of bad or worse. People can't buy what they want, because of import bans and tariffs. People have to buy low quality machines produced in the US at inflated prices.
      There isn't much choice when it comes to medical care or medications, these are monopolistic industries, so these healthcare providers, hospitals, medical equipment producers, insurance companies, and pharmaceutical industries can charge whatever they want.

    • @chongdi6140
      @chongdi6140 5 місяців тому

      American politicians hype up freedoms for their selfish agenda while also using democracy/freedoms as a hegemonic tool to interfere, sabotage, subvert and demonise other sovereign nations not toeing their so-called "rules based order". Enough said.

    • @Ken129100
      @Ken129100 5 місяців тому

      Let me be straight on this: there is no democracy or freedom in the west today. People live under a fascist regime that wears the mask of “democracy”.

    • @johnc007
      @johnc007 5 місяців тому +5

      The US government doesn’t allow their citizens the freedom of choice and decide for them what they can’t buy. You have more freedoms to buy things in china. The US government needs to practice what they preach.

    • @Ken129100
      @Ken129100 5 місяців тому +1

      @@johnc007 Guess what? They would allow you to speak here.

  • @datianlongan5567
    @datianlongan5567 5 місяців тому +83

    Don’t blame Huawei or China for Apple’s decline. The iPhone from 12 to 15 are virtually the same without major innovations. We can’t win the race by tripping our competitors alone.

    • @nickl5658
      @nickl5658 5 місяців тому +4

      Doesn;t mean apple won't try. Standing still and tripping and banning the competition is a lot cheaper way to win.

    • @byhyew
      @byhyew 5 місяців тому +3

      iPhone 12-15 stayed virtually the same because they could, because the US government stopped Huawei from competing with iPhones on the international market.

    • @christianvanderstap6257
      @christianvanderstap6257 5 місяців тому

      Well the price was different

    • @injinerconev
      @injinerconev 5 місяців тому

      If you notice the US is constantly condemning China's government for funding companies like Huawei and BYD because it is supposedly unfair to western counterparts, while at the same time sanctioning Chinese companies into oblivion every chance they get. The logic there is to forcefully keep China's technological development behind mainly for military reasons but others as well. This has been openly admitted by US govt. officials.
      At the same time the US is giving out billions of $ in funding to companies like Samsung, Tesla, Apple etc. to build factories in the US.
      It almost seems like the so called 'free market' where governments should not meddle into corporations is not actually working and it's only promoted when it is successfully working to oppress the rest of the world and benefit the US.
      Gone is the cheap Chinese labor they were feely exploiting for so long. Also because of the hegemony the US had for so long over technology, the western corpos became complacent and innovation stagnated quite a bit. This all could have been different if the US ever gave thought about working with other nations in solidarity instead of sabotage and imperialism, but that could be considered socialism and as everyone in the US knows 'Socialism is when no iPhone'. :D
      PS: apologies for the long comment.

  • @7ebr830
    @7ebr830 5 місяців тому +259

    I think it is immoral to buy American or Israeli products if at all possible to avoid them.

    • @bungkusi2432
      @bungkusi2432 5 місяців тому +17

      Agree
      Stop BK, McD, iphone, etc

    • @hz240
      @hz240 5 місяців тому +12

      Boycott israeli grapefruits too?!

    • @pinotnoir3654
      @pinotnoir3654 5 місяців тому +5

      Agreed.

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 5 місяців тому +2

      No Thanks, B. D. S!

    • @pr0newbie
      @pr0newbie 5 місяців тому +5

      I'm not willing to spend on their artificially inflated prices - be it because of corporate greed or overpriced labour.

  • @qake2021
    @qake2021 5 місяців тому +102

    😯 apple is NOT innovative anymore since passing of Steve Jobs‼️✌️✌️✌️

    • @qake2021
      @qake2021 5 місяців тому +5

      👍👍🇧🇷🇷🇺🇮🇳🇨🇳🇿🇦➕️👏👏

    • @johnchin1456
      @johnchin1456 5 місяців тому

      Steve jobs was just the poster child. Apple is DARPA research inc

    • @junizhao
      @junizhao 5 місяців тому +4

      Mr Cook has run out of ideas.

    • @CheeLiekHo
      @CheeLiekHo 5 місяців тому +4

      It is just the limits of any technology. To a point and then diminishing returns

    • @erenyeagerist7681
      @erenyeagerist7681 5 місяців тому +2

      Even Steve Jobs stole from Sony

  • @donkeykong516
    @donkeykong516 5 місяців тому +239

    I don’t care for tech bullies, go HW

    • @verypleasantguy
      @verypleasantguy 5 місяців тому +22

      I have been an Apple user since the original iPhone, but last year, I dumped it, and got myself a Huawei Mate 60 Pro.
      It's an amazing phone, I have to admit.

    • @ovrskr
      @ovrskr 4 місяці тому

      HW is a tech bully too, they don't allow you to install custom roms even if its your device. hard pass
      i want relations to improve, because neither china's closed ecosystem (it is more locked down than apple) nor America's business sanctions inspire me. it was better before.

    • @verypleasantguy
      @verypleasantguy 4 місяці тому

      @@ovrskr You definitely can install custom roms
      By doing so, you void the warranty
      That's all

    • @ovrskr
      @ovrskr 4 місяці тому

      @@verypleasantguy Huawei stopped providing unlock codes around 2018. For me this is important.

    • @verypleasantguy
      @verypleasantguy 4 місяці тому

      @@ovrskr you can physically remove the original rom chip and put in a new rom chip if you want
      nobody prevents you from doing that
      would other brands provide you with unlock codes ? or those so-called 'unlock codes' were somehow 'leaked' ?
      i did some hacking when i was young, but never got deep into the hardware stuff so i don't know

  • @summerchina6568
    @summerchina6568 5 місяців тому +43

    An eye for an eye. At last some other gov't can sanction the US and actually cause pain. Eventually the US will learn that bullying others won't get what they want but instead they will need to work with and live with others. The world will be a better place because of that.

  • @CattleFarmer667
    @CattleFarmer667 5 місяців тому +85

    I bought Xiaomi phone in 2018. Still working fine. Not sure about Huawei but Apple a waste of money to me

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 5 місяців тому +13

      My huawei mate 20x is about 5yrs old and battery is still same as beginning. Recharge at night.

    • @MyKharli
      @MyKharli 5 місяців тому +9

      Same , such good value for performance and longevity too .

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 5 місяців тому +6

      Really Apple phones after 2 or 3 years you can notice the battery degradation
      From 2 or 3 days down to needing a charge overnight
      Not like I’m playing games or anything on the phone

    • @yndiiatecow2536
      @yndiiatecow2536 5 місяців тому +8

      ​@@DW-op7lyare you an apple owner. You're lucky lasted 3yrs. Mine not even 2 years and battery is a crap.😢😢😢

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes Apple owner
      when I say lasted
      I mean I didn’t have to charge the phone before the end of the day

  • @The0ldg0at
    @The0ldg0at 5 місяців тому +45

    If you are in the high end of business why would you buy an Apple iphone when you can buy a Huawei that is garanteed NSA proof?

  • @Dare2Blink
    @Dare2Blink 5 місяців тому +38

    Just a slight correction. Huawei was never a budget device, and was always priced similarly to apple. The biggest difference is that they were much more inovative, so you got something that was actually worth that much money. For cheaper devices Huawei had the sub brand Honor, which they were forced to sell after the sanctions. Honor has now also become a premium brand. The reason Huawei is now reclaiming the top spot is because they now have access to chips of their own making.

    • @dice138
      @dice138 5 місяців тому +8

      Actually Huawei have phones at different price level. Mate series and P series (Now Pura) are the flagship phones and most reconized. They also have some low end lines like the Nova series. Around 2000 yuan range. I used to have a Nova 4 before the US sanctions. It was a good phone too.

    • @kosia1972
      @kosia1972 5 місяців тому

      From the man who used the both phone Huawei and honor my first touch screen phone was galaxy
      s2 I pay $550 from t mobile the battery life was very terrible after two years I got Huawei mate 2 from Amazon for $300 good phone at that time good battery life after few years I give it to my wife I go for honor x5 few years I got honor x6 for $250 from Amazon all this phone was very good I decided to go go for Huawei mate 10 pro I paid $550 on Amazon after
      three years l give it to my wife I bought Huawei mate 30 pro $700 now I just got my honor 6 pro from aliexpress global version one week ago for $1083 tax everything including beautiful phone

    • @Dare2Blink
      @Dare2Blink 5 місяців тому +1

      @@dice138 true but the budget options were under the sub brands and not under the main brand, like the afore mentioned nova or the before mentioned honor sub brand.

  • @sarahkhan2310
    @sarahkhan2310 5 місяців тому +32

    Huawei is the best and a blessing to the world of telco technology. Total support and well done to the team 👍❤️🇨🇳

  • @Mike-ys4sr2023
    @Mike-ys4sr2023 5 місяців тому +42

    I bought a cheap Huawei cell in 2020 while I was visiting the Philippines and laid up my Samsung.
    It was US that tried to destroy Huawei so now China can now Destroy Apple 🍎. 😅 😂Thanks again sir 🙏 for your information and analysis

    • @fannyalbi9040
      @fannyalbi9040 5 місяців тому +5

      huawei logo is slicing apple into pieces

  • @AnnieT369
    @AnnieT369 5 місяців тому +88

    Reason for restriction is because iPhone can be used for $₱ying. Just ask Angela Merkel.
    As to falling sales, no worries Apple, India with it's huge population will come to the rescue.😊

    • @kashmlan
      @kashmlan 5 місяців тому +15

      Yeah. Sure.. but we need 50 % discount..😂

    • @Lululemon2023
      @Lululemon2023 5 місяців тому +18

      Indian market has a long way to go to replace China

    • @fannyalbi9040
      @fannyalbi9040 5 місяців тому

      @@kashmlandon’t be so cruel indian

    • @tkh2944
      @tkh2944 5 місяців тому +12

      Apple needs to produce a special "dharavi slum" edition to sell in India.🤪
      Wonder what would happen to apple's "premium" image after that ...

    • @DJs021
      @DJs021 5 місяців тому +13

      ​@@Lululemon2023more than 60% population can't even afford a proper meal, let's alone talk about owning an iphone. Their richest billionaire rather walk down Dubai street selecting most expensive alcohol than helping his own country. In superCOWer 1ndia, they preferred to scam instead of buying it. Just like how recently they tried to scam Sony playstation rights.

  • @cabasadefogo9533
    @cabasadefogo9533 5 місяців тому +73

    I want the pura ultra

  • @TAL142
    @TAL142 5 місяців тому +31

    Huawei used to be a phone company. After the sanction, Huawei is now a car company, semiconductor company, AI company, Internet cloud company competing direct against Tesla, ASML, TSMC, QUALCOMM, Google, Apple, Samsung, Nvidia...and even Bluetooth. Huawei used to be the customer for some of these companies. This is what would happen when all you do is rely on government help competition instead of innovation. Just like EV, people are forced to buy Tesla because they have no other good choices. But that may not last if Tesla doesn't improve.

    • @dice138
      @dice138 5 місяців тому +5

      Tesla's sales in China is dropping dramatically too. Pretty much situation with apple. In China's market, if you don't innovate, you're not going to survive.

    • @TAL142
      @TAL142 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@dice138 Many stuffs in the west were pretty advance 30 to 40 years ago. And these stuffs are still being used today. I probably have to pay 10 times more to buy the same old faucet at Home Depot.

    • @exploreplanet930
      @exploreplanet930 5 місяців тому +2

      No, HW is a telecom giant.

    • @TAL142
      @TAL142 5 місяців тому +1

      @@exploreplanet930 i did not mentioned 5g because a lot of its revenue came from phone business. US pretty much gave up on 5g since there was no equal to huawei and wanted to jump to 6g.

    • @JA-pn4ji
      @JA-pn4ji 5 місяців тому +3

      Also a data center company.

  • @picandvideo
    @picandvideo 5 місяців тому +64

    Apple is like Sony at this stage. Nothing new.

  • @ericliume
    @ericliume 5 місяців тому +33

    Pura 70 series is registered as Satellite Handheld Device, but not traditional TD/FDD mobile device. It supports bi-directional satellite messaging, phone calling and image sharing. P70 is also equipped with a very sophisticated main camera, 1 inch cmos, adjustable aperture and retractable lens.

    • @cb250nighthawk3
      @cb250nighthawk3 5 місяців тому +2

      I never really cared much about money but now I do. I want the Pura 70 but no money no talk. 😢

  • @yamhweeyeo3089
    @yamhweeyeo3089 5 місяців тому +76

    What's so big deal about apple? Nothing, really.

    • @Ace1000ks19751982
      @Ace1000ks19751982 5 місяців тому +10

      People just pay for the brand, and believe it is a status symbol. In reality, it is just a electronic device.

    • @johnchin1456
      @johnchin1456 5 місяців тому +7

      Shallow people buy over priced old tat Tesla's too

    • @atheneus
      @atheneus 5 місяців тому +4

      I have an iPhone 13PM. It’s the best device I’ve ever had. Been using it for 2 years and it’s never lagged. The battery is still awesome. I’ve dropped it plenty of times (no protective case) and there’s been no damage. Waterproof, I’ve washed it with soap thrice. Dependable camera, great processor. Runs every app smoothly. I think I’ll keep using it for at least 3-4 more years.
      I also have AirPods Pro 2. Incredible sound.
      Finally, MacBook Air M2. Battery never dies. It’s beautiful, dependable, extremely lightweight, and the processing speed is great without charging. It almost never heats up.
      I love all 3 devices. Sure, Apple might be a bit overpriced, but I’m really satisfied by what I got.
      But I’m hoping Chinese products will be my next product stack. I have little doubt that within a few years, Chinese devices will be much superior

    • @CheeLiekHo
      @CheeLiekHo 5 місяців тому +6

      Just marketing gimmick

    • @sergevtorino
      @sergevtorino 5 місяців тому +5

      The design is good, no doubt, but its definitely not a game changer.

  • @bungkusi2432
    @bungkusi2432 5 місяців тому +38

    Since Steve Jobs pass away, Apple has been going down.
    Tim Cook is not a good CEO, he stop the innovation and start to cut cost while inflating sales price.

    • @AIPretendingToBeHuman
      @AIPretendingToBeHuman 5 місяців тому +7

      "he stop the innovation and start to cut cost while inflating sales price." That's the definition of a great CEO in the US 😀

    • @fannyalbi9040
      @fannyalbi9040 5 місяців тому

      @@AIPretendingToBeHumanoh common

    • @bungkusi2432
      @bungkusi2432 5 місяців тому +1

      @@AIPretendingToBeHuman
      That's a *manager* or *accountant* job 😁😁

  • @MetaView7
    @MetaView7 5 місяців тому +18

    When the Huawei Mate60 came out last year, a lot of people bought one because they wanted to show their support for Huawei. It was a pure patriotic play. And it worked.

    • @exploreplanet930
      @exploreplanet930 5 місяців тому +8

      Not really. Mate 60 pro is a great phone. I know because i have one.

  • @mingouczjcz3800
    @mingouczjcz3800 5 місяців тому +62

    Huawei Pura 70 has the satellite-messaging, satellite-phone-calling and satellite-sending-picture features.

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 5 місяців тому +10

      Wow

    • @etbuch4873
      @etbuch4873 5 місяців тому +6

      Mate 60 series last year (2023) already has that. I saw lots of video on this platform wherein people show how they use it in real setting.

    • @mingouczjcz3800
      @mingouczjcz3800 5 місяців тому

      ​@monipenny408 because of the satellite communication function, Huawei's mate60 is used in the current Myanmar civil war

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC 5 місяців тому

      @@mingouczjcz3800 wow, just like DJI, another military company.

  • @willengel2458
    @willengel2458 5 місяців тому +54

    China doesn't ban Apple. China suggested government official not to use Apple phone in government office buildings or facilities.
    it did not ban Micron either. China suggested not to use Micron in their infrastructure.

    • @wimbletone1
      @wimbletone1 5 місяців тому

      Suggested?

    • @itsme-nt6yu
      @itsme-nt6yu 5 місяців тому +9

      It's a delicate scenario. China still has (perhaps millions of) workers working for iPhone. With a rise of Huawei, the government can fine-tune its stance away from supporting Apple. OTH, with a strong competitor from Apple in the market, it will make domestic brands more competitive.

    • @bubuneowoo6161
      @bubuneowoo6161 5 місяців тому +5

      China phone assembly is automated now.

    • @willengel2458
      @willengel2458 5 місяців тому

      @@wimbletone1 China found out Micron lobbied congress to sanction its Chinese competitors in China. bad behavior, but that doesn't warrant a complete ban.
      Micron is still in China.

    • @willengel2458
      @willengel2458 5 місяців тому +1

      @@itsme-nt6yu there really is/was no contact between China and Apple. let me explain. Foxconn won the contract from Apple. Foxconn is then responsible for hiring of personnel, setup supply chain, acquire all the parts to assemble the phones, pay royalties to chip companies, submit phone to Apple for inspection, then ship it to port. Apple then pay Foxconn $X for the service.
      US asked Apple (for certain unknown favor) to move its assembly line to India in exchange for Quad and other things. Apple then asked Foxconn. Foxconn either move, or lost the contract.
      Apple move to India is exchange of favors between US, Apple, and India, nothing to do with labor costs.
      the phone produced in India 50% or less passed quality control. Foxconn is the loser here.
      Kevin was wrong about Apple supply chain in previous video. Apple has zero to do with all the dirty details, that's the reason they left US.

  • @ZweiZwolf
    @ZweiZwolf 5 місяців тому +15

    To be fair, Apple did a huge amount of self-damage by trying to sell "Make in India" iPhones in China instead of Chinese-made iPhones. That's a slap in the face to the country that produces the most iPhones at the highest quality, whereas India is known not to produce high quality electronics. Apple was roundly lambasted for this, and there's no good explanation for it. Apple could have, and should have, shipped the Indian phones to the USA, Canada, Australia & the UK where they'd have been far better received.
    Also, the Kirin 9000s in the Huawei Mate 50 is a 5 nm chip made by tweaking 7 nm tools. It performs like other 5nm chips by Samsung, so it's a legitimate 5 nm chip. US chip sanctions were supposed to limit China to 14 nm, and a 5 nm chip is 3 generations beyond that. It was supposed to be "impossible".

  • @michaeltse321
    @michaeltse321 5 місяців тому +22

    Huawei AI is better than Apple in the Chinese market.

  • @frankm6218
    @frankm6218 5 місяців тому +32

    My wife had a Huawei P30 2019, still trouble free. Meanwhile I had changed my iPhone as iPhone battery dies around two years. I will switch to something else next time I need a new phone.
    Only reason we are not buying Huawei phone now is they are banned here so worry Huawei phone May not be able to working properly.

    • @itsme-nt6yu
      @itsme-nt6yu 5 місяців тому +3

      That is what I have. I also bought P40 Pro, but cannot use Google Pay (NFC not allowed to work outside China). For my own convenience, I switched back to P30 Pro and it is still working. However, I wish I could buy newer model HW (including Pura 70), if Google Play Store/Google Pay obstacles can be overcome.

    • @xinqu5
      @xinqu5 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@itsme-nt6yu wondering if there is a way to get around it? I want to buy the Pura 70 too, and use it in America

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 5 місяців тому +1

      P30 Pro gang rise up! Great phone, excellent camera!

    • @nsng1298
      @nsng1298 5 місяців тому

      ​@@xinqu5 There are ways to install Google Play GMS onto Huawei. Just Google or search YT.

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC 5 місяців тому

      ISP would not allow the connections from huawei phones.

  • @1hjehje
    @1hjehje 5 місяців тому +10

    My wife purchased a Huawei phone last year wheile were visiting China. It is justa budget model, but it works great. The Mate 60 just came out at the time and I was told that it was selling like crazy. Jiayou Huawei ... way to go!

  • @banshong3997
    @banshong3997 5 місяців тому +32

    As Scott Ritter said f#ck around and find out. Those sanctions seem to work against US. What happened??? Well time to double down. We'll find something that work eventually.
    😂😂😂

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 5 місяців тому +7

      Boomerang sanctions 😂

  • @WingPoyLeong
    @WingPoyLeong 5 місяців тому +9

    It takes two to tango. Huawei is completely banned in the US whereas Apple iPhone is only banned from Chinese government employees use. Chinese still have a heart the Americans don't. That's the difference.

    • @timmyg44
      @timmyg44 5 місяців тому

      And what about Google and its play store?

    • @yoshiou387
      @yoshiou387 5 місяців тому

      @@timmyg44 Twenty years ago, Google was cool and Facebook was cool. Public opposition did not implement the legal provisions of China's online information review. Later, they took the initiative to go away. In a few years, Europe and the United States were doing network information review. Trump’sThe account is still frozen, what is wrong with China?In any case, abide by the first

  • @douginorlando6260
    @douginorlando6260 5 місяців тому +24

    The new phone also replaces google’s operating system. This allows complete independence from Google (Alphabet). Also Huawei car software is gaining traction with domestic & foreign car manufacturer companies.
    There’s more. One giant piece of the economic pie is about to open up. Direct satellite communication that eliminates the need for cell tower networks and eliminates monthly phone bills to ATT, Verizon, T-mobile, etc. China already demo’s this capability, although Elon Musk’s Starlink has the upper hand due to their upgraded satellite rollout and their Falcon 9 orbital deliveries. Note, China will be launching their Falcon 9 equivalent next year but will require a few years to catch up to spaceX

    • @dice138
      @dice138 5 місяців тому +5

      Audi and Honda(or Toyota) had already made deals with Huawei to put Huawei AI into their future cars.

    • @willengel2458
      @willengel2458 5 місяців тому +1

      satellite service is not free, you have to subscribe, and then $x per minute. it takes tons of money to build and launch a satellite.

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC 5 місяців тому

      @@willengel2458 satellite service could save a life.

  • @ivanho7268
    @ivanho7268 5 місяців тому +13

    Thanks to smart western politicians' who had pushed Huawei and other Chinese makers to innovate and transform its products. Am sure China appreciate their positive pressure that contribute to these sanctioned companies' performance.

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC 5 місяців тому +1

      american politicans' sanction is cuting down their own big trees and let local companies smile.

  • @ReMi-qe3zc
    @ReMi-qe3zc 5 місяців тому +14

    With which camera are you recording by the way! Good quality camera !

  • @kiranaaero3359
    @kiranaaero3359 5 місяців тому +9

    The new Huawei Pura phone sold out in 1 min 😮

  • @ElizabethWang-r9s
    @ElizabethWang-r9s 5 місяців тому +10

    I want HW in US too

  • @bobjack2381
    @bobjack2381 5 місяців тому +8

    Good job Huawei thumps up to you, China is self sufficient.

    • @timmyg44
      @timmyg44 5 місяців тому

      Self sufficient? Over 80 percent of domestic food consumption relies on imports.

  • @tkh2944
    @tkh2944 5 місяців тому +25

    I want a spy proof phone !

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 5 місяців тому +6

      Get an old Nokia flip phone😂

    • @hclau218
      @hclau218 5 місяців тому +7

      Then you need a HuaWei😂😂

    • @etbuch4873
      @etbuch4873 5 місяців тому

      Get yourself a Huawei. Even the CIA, the NSA, the MI5, and the MI6 canNOT find any backdoor to the Huawei mobile. And that's why all those agencies want so badly to ban it.

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 5 місяців тому +2

      @@peanut0brain Will that still work? I thought the 2G and 3G towers were torn out.

  • @David-ut3zv
    @David-ut3zv 5 місяців тому +7

    The Tanya Harding tactics has always been a losers’ tactic, has never worked, will never work.

  • @pr0newbie
    @pr0newbie 5 місяців тому +6

    Huawei was ahead of Samsung's flagship Galaxy S series before they were brutally and illegally attacked by the US government. Even some of my anglophile friends bought and loved the P30 as it was the best Android phone on the market.

  • @TeacherLisaHello
    @TeacherLisaHello 5 місяців тому +14

    I look forward to watching what will happen soon, as China delves deeper into the chip making machinery and chip making processl. It is already trying to CHANGE the process involved due to ASML’s restrictions. Leap frogging technical
    Improvements comes to mind.

  • @fanhuaji
    @fanhuaji 5 місяців тому +11

    Top reason is USgov isolating Huawei

  • @noboliNo
    @noboliNo 5 місяців тому +4

    Pura 70 puts iPhone to shame

  • @passby8070
    @passby8070 5 місяців тому +3

    If Huawei is not banned here in Australia, I would buy it in a heart beat! I like to support more consumer options.

  • @_Wai_Wai_
    @_Wai_Wai_ 5 місяців тому +3

    Never have owned any Apple products, never had the desire for one.

  • @sergevtorino
    @sergevtorino 5 місяців тому +6

    Huawei is great. The best phone I ever had.

  • @HKChineseCanadian
    @HKChineseCanadian 5 місяців тому +5

    Huawei is the best. All Chinese and peace loving people around the world are rooting for you.

  • @danielodey7775
    @danielodey7775 5 місяців тому +3

    US technology companies are losing market share in China. It's per se !

  • @terrytoh6854
    @terrytoh6854 5 місяців тому +5

    Huawei are now going into EV vehicles . I visited their showroom in Wang Fu Jing Street in Beijing during my tour of China . I am from Australia .

  • @simonchung8509
    @simonchung8509 5 місяців тому +7

    P70 will be 3nm

  • @fanhuaji
    @fanhuaji 5 місяців тому +4

    A few years ago, my Huawei phone was banned by US mobile network provider, had to switch to a US phone. 😅

  • @winsonip4447
    @winsonip4447 5 місяців тому +4

    Apple, Samsung, and Xiaomi all benefited from the US banning policies on Huawei, which prohibited TSMC from manufacturing chips for them. A few years later, Huawei was able to make a comeback, but its resurgence did not impact the sales of Samsung or Xiaomi; instead, it only affected Apple's iPhone. This was because customers finally realized that Apple charged a premium price for products that were similar to what other companies had offered a few years earlier.

    • @micholitzia5726
      @micholitzia5726 5 місяців тому

      How did xiaomi benefit? They are also victims

    • @winsonip4447
      @winsonip4447 5 місяців тому

      @@micholitzia5726All smartphone manufacturers benefit from the Huawei sanctions. Xiaomi is among those that have been saved from bankruptcy because they were able to capture a portion of Huawei's market share.

  • @viczhou9051
    @viczhou9051 5 місяців тому +3

    Bought my Mate 60 Pro a month ago. Very happy to have it.

  • @ibrahimgalledou6625
    @ibrahimgalledou6625 5 місяців тому +7

    This happen when a bunch of lawyers Led in field they don't know how that field operates because of their ego and conflict if interest

  • @DorJinTan
    @DorJinTan 5 місяців тому +4

    watching this on my mate60 pro!

  • @housetboy8605
    @housetboy8605 5 місяців тому +2

    Lack of finger print scanner, heavy pro versions and restricted software. ITunes, family sharing and iCloud software is headache to use. Now can see why sales drop, cannot stay at top forever.

  • @soowo5942
    @soowo5942 5 місяців тому +3

    Mate 60 is old news, time for pura 70 and mate 70!

  • @willengel2458
    @willengel2458 5 місяців тому +4

    lack of innovation is killing Apple, not Huawei.
    Huawei not only survived, but thrive under blacklist and severe sanctions from the rogue states is an accomplishment in itself.
    Apple is too complacent for its own good.

  • @manwingchi9156
    @manwingchi9156 5 місяців тому +4

    I bet US got one and now taking it apart and study it. I also bet US claim Huawei copy their technology. 😂😂😂

  • @hz240
    @hz240 5 місяців тому +9

    I am a proud owner of an older abused model P7, by far the most reliable and robustly built handheld smart device I have ever owned hands down. Sadly, I could not manage to find any local retailers (not even through Amazon) that carried the protective casing and have dropped on many occasions. The unit remains fully functional and serves its purpose. A testament to its build quality.
    Yet the newer model iphones and samsung units i have owned are all retired. I try to avoid those brands where possible.

    • @DW-op7ly
      @DW-op7ly 5 місяців тому +1

      You never tried AliExpress or Temu?
      For sure Temu would have had it.,, but they are more recent company in the west

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf 5 місяців тому

      Samsung is not very reliable or sturdy. I think they're designed cheaply.

  • @shanghaiffgg
    @shanghaiffgg 5 місяців тому +6

    Apple is the world's leading phone manufacturing for no reason. They are so low quality. They became the most valuable and most profitable company in the world for no reason. The Mac is so bad etc etc. hahaha

  • @SmotriGiraffe
    @SmotriGiraffe 5 місяців тому +1

    Love it! My second Huawei is still running fast from 2018. Great device with 0$ (contract) No intention to get other brands.

  • @Kimmimaro86
    @Kimmimaro86 5 місяців тому +1

    The day Raimondo start told the Chinese no chip for them was the day no profit for Apple in China.

  • @netrubbish
    @netrubbish 5 місяців тому +2

    Huawei, let's do it. I'm not a huawei user at this moment, but I will be your ambassador to all my family, friends and neighborhood. 6 years ago, I have influenced my sister, and 3 of my nieces to switch to android , and they were happy and never looked back.

  • @cuteandfunnyearthlings2863
    @cuteandfunnyearthlings2863 5 місяців тому +2

    Go huawei, support from uk here.

  • @syncmaster915n
    @syncmaster915n 5 місяців тому +1

    iPhones, like the Tesla cars, are facing stiff competitions for Chinese brands. This was unthinkable only a couple of years ago.

  • @veejaytsunamix
    @veejaytsunamix 5 місяців тому +3

    Does that mean cheaper iphones for the rest of the world?😂

  • @johnwang9923
    @johnwang9923 5 місяців тому +10

    When can we get a Hwawei phone here in the U.S.?

    • @peanut0brain
      @peanut0brain 5 місяців тому

      "national security concern" 😂😂😂

    • @etbuch4873
      @etbuch4873 5 місяців тому

      Even the CIA, the NSA, the MI5, and the MI6 canNOT find any backdoor to the Huawei mobile. And that's why all those agencies want so badly to ban it. And you wanna get yourself a mobile that those agencies cannot spy on?

    • @timmyg44
      @timmyg44 5 місяців тому

      now, on amazon.

  • @agusedyanto3324
    @agusedyanto3324 5 місяців тому +1

    In the US Toyota cars are well received and sold, but there is news that Toyota is now starting to collaborate with Huawei in the field of electric cars, it will be interesting to see what the US government's attitude is about this 😂

  • @khkhaw68
    @khkhaw68 4 місяці тому +1

    Go Huawei !! Am going to get a Huawei Pura Pro!!

  • @jogana6909
    @jogana6909 5 місяців тому +1

    Support Huawei

  • @greaterbayareahero1401
    @greaterbayareahero1401 5 місяців тому +1

    The trend is to get value for money. Now China is bringing out state of the art technology at low margins. Designer brands will take a hit. There is no 60% margins anymore induced by the US

  • @bryanwalkerCT7729
    @bryanwalkerCT7729 5 місяців тому +2

    Wow............
    Thanks for education
    #BeingSaneInInsanePlaces

  • @JooMike-Hi
    @JooMike-Hi 5 місяців тому +1

    The Pura 70 adopts the Kirin 9010, which looks better than the Kirin 9000s of the 2023 Mate 60. Thank you America.

  • @johnsullivan8673
    @johnsullivan8673 5 місяців тому

    Kirin isn't new. That name started in 2015. You're talking specifically of the Kirin 9000, which was fabbed under a 7nm equivalent process.

  • @ericxx3303
    @ericxx3303 5 місяців тому +1

    Any of high tech Chinese products have been or will be banned in US, because US has freedom.... can anyone explain this logic?

  • @methinnk2.063
    @methinnk2.063 5 місяців тому +1

    Good 👍🏻

  • @v-data6714
    @v-data6714 5 місяців тому +6

    Apple moved out of China to India is one of its bad moves. Lack of innovative is another.

    • @timmyg44
      @timmyg44 5 місяців тому

      Not true. the apple factory is just down the road from where i live in China is expanding its presence.

  • @Gopherminator
    @Gopherminator 5 місяців тому +2

    We should have a song titled sanctions.

  • @marcolam1167
    @marcolam1167 5 місяців тому

    You didn't mention that the kirin 9010 in Pura 70 is a 5nm chip.

  • @darek795
    @darek795 5 місяців тому +3

    Isn't Apple in diffcult situation because it has no its own AI model like Google has - so Apple's phones could lag because of this. Apple develops its language model AI but it is behind Google , Microsoft, OpenAI and FB. And even if Apple develops its own language model AI it will be probably only applicable to English language and not usable for China. China has its own difficult language, culture, customs and different political system which require different AI language model .

  • @dayveda3736
    @dayveda3736 5 місяців тому

    Almost missed this breakdown. Proper!

  • @martinwilby8942
    @martinwilby8942 5 місяців тому +1

    very informative

  • @ebrahimkhan322
    @ebrahimkhan322 4 місяці тому +1

    With due respect, I think you have exaggerated a little for Apple and possess many attributes of its own!

  • @niosanfrancisco
    @niosanfrancisco 5 місяців тому

    Got a Mate 60. Its an incredible phone.

  • @wanderingquestions7501
    @wanderingquestions7501 5 місяців тому

    Well said

  • @gregwang8628
    @gregwang8628 5 місяців тому

    So much for the free private enterprises.. Governmental hostilities do help the private sector in overseas markets!

  • @ElizabethWang-r9s
    @ElizabethWang-r9s 5 місяців тому +1

    Chinese government ban to use I phone, national security reasons.

    • @America_bombsTSMC
      @America_bombsTSMC 5 місяців тому

      korean military dept does the same on yesterday.

  • @jackchiu7560
    @jackchiu7560 5 місяців тому

    For Apple, it's a case of "a fish needs water." Whether the river needs fish is completely a different matter, as long as Tim Cook still wants to increase its Indian production to 25% from the current 5%. A more pressing problem for Apple is how to arrest the sliding sales of iPhones, not only in the Chinese domestic market but also worldwide. To be fair, Apple is fully capable of all the things Huawei did for the Mate60 and the new Pura70 had it really focused on product development and innovation. However, Apple was too confident of its brand name to the point of complacency and so it has only itself to blame for the current crisis it is facing right now.

  • @hendryyan1785
    @hendryyan1785 3 місяці тому

    The world should let competition takes it course

  • @Andrew-rc3vh
    @Andrew-rc3vh 5 місяців тому

    The explanation is simple. In the US they have allowed Apple, Google and Amazon to monopolise the tech market. In the beginning when Apple was fighting IBM PCs they struggled hard to get a hold of any market share, but they did it through innovation. Now the reverse is true. As a monopolist they have not improved their phones over the last few years very much and mostly cosmetic. Huawei on the other hand had the fight of its life on as the US tried to destroy it, so their engineers are like tough fighters. Now they will enjoy the fruits of that investment. The US has got it coming to them. Photonic chips will be next.

  • @SivoTV
    @SivoTV 5 місяців тому

    Facts are Facts...

  • @marlons488
    @marlons488 5 місяців тому

    I would change to Huawei if we had them here or if they didn't cost thousands to buy online

  • @timothyallindi4372
    @timothyallindi4372 5 місяців тому

    The mate60 pro is a game top notch period.

  • @PVLTD
    @PVLTD 5 місяців тому

    You won’t be able to buy any affordable items in US because of China’s “overcapacity” issue according to Yellen. Americans will be forced to buy overpriced items in order to support those politicians’ donors. On the other hand, China won’t be able to buy things that they needed from the US because of the US politicians said so. Again, how do these politicians expect these companies to grow if they’re not able to sell their products to the biggest consumer market in the world is really beyond me. Of course the politicians allowed these companies to sell things that the Chinese companies have the capacity and capability to produce, then why would any company want to buy it from the US for at least 2 times the price? Are these politicians able to subsidize these companies forever because of the blockade?

  • @othmanmajid6380
    @othmanmajid6380 5 місяців тому +1

    Good news for the consumer.😊

  • @lawrencepak1917
    @lawrencepak1917 5 місяців тому +1

    Apple will not be missed!

  • @theotheleo6830
    @theotheleo6830 5 місяців тому

    Huawei's phones will only affect the Chinese market since Google isn't allowed to sell them Android OS. Huawei phone sales outside of China will be minuscule.

  • @KillerCarne
    @KillerCarne День тому

    $195 to $165 & today $225