When they played second time, 12 All Stars were needed to survive just one Nikola Jokić. If that isn't a testimony to Jokić's greatness, I do not know what else is. Basically, it was Wilt vs Celtics in 1960s all over again.
Defense can be executed in different ways and it’s more of a team thing, especially in the nba. There is no replacing or replicating what Jokic can do. 2 way play does not cancel out the value of what Jokic and Luka can do offensively, that’s not how basketball players are evaluated. It’s definitely cuz they’re White.
@@1ZosoLZI love SAS and I do believe he know ball. But Chris is a way better debater when it comes to ball. SAS relies a little too much on theatrics imo
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ If you are having trouble saying Jokic is the best player in the league here are your other somewhat acceptable choices: 1) Giannis 2) Luka Up and comers: Shai Ant man Wemby Great but something is missing 1) Embiid 2) AD 3) Tatum Sunset club: Lebron Steph KD
This dude Shaun King is giving clown takes trying to say D’Aron Fox and others could be considered best player in the world. He just doesn’t want Joker to be considered best player.
The Western media has a bias against great Serbian players. Novak Djokovic faces the same bias against him even though he's the only player to achieve a Career Golden Masters. He also has won the most ATP Finals and the most Majors. The media still tries to put Federer and Nadal ahead of him when it's not even close to who the Goatkovic is.
@@ReverendSam1bro has the athleticism of a 60 year old and no one can stop him from dropping 26 12 and 9 the last 5 years. Sounds like domination to me 🤷
@@cyrillesu In those 5 seasons u speak of w/those #'s only ONE of them led to his skill set dominating over the league!! Of course I'm speaking of his team planting the teams flag as king of the hill(🏆)!!
@@cyrillesu Tatum couldn't establish himself as the best player on his team, so no he's not the best player in the league!! I don't believe there is one right now, the position is vacant........ IMO 🤔😐!!
Seriously I'm just watching and waiting to see to what extent some people will desperately try to diminish Joker's status as the most intelligent, most fundamentally sound, most unselfish, most efficient basketball player. Pathetic.
This is the absolute worst take I've heard on the odd couple in my entire listening life! Shaun King lost all credibility talking basketball! Stick to your backup QB analysis and leave any basketball talk alone.. Wow
I have read this communication on Twitter several times, when one side finds patience for the other dumbfounded side and then the dumbfounded side still talks incoherently. I also think if he watched more than 3 Jokic games he would learn how to pronounce his last name, the dude didn't watch the whole Jokic game like ever. Whoever loves ball knows Jokic plays one of the most pure brands of basketball ever - he gets his, makes his teammates better and is HUMBLE. They’re just mad he clears their favourite player by miles.
The disrespected the joker is absolutely unreal. I hate when someone disagrees with an argument so they tear down a player in order to make that argument man sports media is just absolutely nauseating.
@@xavierb9061can't beat one if they're rare in today's NBA. Since 2019, there have been an average of 3 50 win teams in the West and 6 in total every season. 2019 was their first year, no one was stopping LeBron and AD in 2020, the Nuggets were heavily injured in 2021, and everyone outside of Jokic had a bad series versus Minnesota last season. Not as balid of an argument as you might think.
He starts by listing several players that “could be considered the best player in the world”then immediately denies saying what he said. I can’t believe I actually miss Rob.
Tim Duncan. Chris all you had to say to this clown is Tim Duncan. He wasn't exciting but he was the best player in the world. This dude is part of the reason AAU is killing US basketball
@@oblivionpro69 then you don’t know basketball 🫵🏿😭there’s not player that effected the 5-5 game basketball like Steph curry my boy💯the game is bigger than the stat sheet
One of the worst debate performances I’ve ever seen. I tried (desperately) to give him the benefit of the doubt but Shaun brought less than nothing to the table
If he ain’t who has accomplished more over the last 4 years maybe Giannis it’s a possible Bird V Magic situation if both could ever play each other in a couple finals
We won’t never see a bird and magic again in sports. Both were superstars in the first year. Magic won the nba title and bird changed Boston around they won 21 games they year before bird got there. Then 61 games as a rookie no comparison at all
This guy reminds me of that one guy who covered for Rich Eisen and said Jokic wasn't top 15 in the league and that he would rather take Booker. He was wrong, and was never heard from again. Nostalgia?!?! You can't have nostalgia with something you've never seen before
Outside of Shaq AI was definitely the best player in league for 2 or so years. But as good as FOX is he’s not on Tatum level. Tatum been in 2 finals, won 1, & been in maybe 3 other ecf. & he’s a good defender
Very similar to what's happening with another Joker. Novak Djokovic. It's like Yeah he is the most successful tennis player ever but Federer had more elegant backhand?! 🤡
Game 5 of the Western Conference Finals Jokic absolutely proved he was and is the Best Player in the world but not necessarily on the Best team. If he had another All Star player on the Nuggets legit that team is nearly unbeatable. MPJ and Jamal Murray are just too inconsistent although both can elevate their games at times. Also with extensive injury histories. Jokic is so great no matter what his team looks like is a playoff team. He needs help to be a Championship team but taking the Nuggets especially a few years ago to the Playoffs with 3 of the starting 5 injured was insane.
Preach! Fangirls have for some reason made it seem as if there's a prime MJ or Lebron gap for jokic being the best.. jokic got one ring in 10 years against an 8 seed, while also having a losing record to 5 seed or higher playoff teams.. not to mention the chokejob this MOST RECENT playoffs.. smh
@@b84__ they were just bursting on the scene and came back from down 3-1 twice and then this year they blew a game 7 at home after being down 2-0 and up 3-2 they would’ve matched up well vs Bos Min choked vs Dal so we got upsets the west is crazy stacked tho
Everytime i watch Jokic i don't walk away thinking he's the best in the world... I walk away thinking he was playing with kids... Those can't be pro players
@@unlimitedz2.014 If Embiid could stay healthy, he'd be right there (if not on top). He's either the unluckiest player since Sam Bowie or he's just fragile. But if he ever stays healthy for a whole season he could put up historic numbers. I don't buy SGA above Luka, but he's dominant enough (including this Olympics) to be in the conversation. To me, anyone who wants to be in that competition has to have the numbers AND be able to carry a team deep into the playoffs, even without a strong team. That rules out Steph, LeBron (at this age), KD, or other all time greats.
Giannis is only better at defense. Joker is far superior at shooting, 3s, free throws, passing. He better then him at all of those by a county a mile to.
@@FreeAgent797 wow you trying to drag me into a war against my guys but it ain't going to work,, go kiss the ring is all I can say,, Detroit basketball....
To be honest the last few years y’all have been saying winning the championship makes you the best in the world. Y’all did it with Giannis and then Jokic.
A3 year old knows more ball than dude. Man compared Jokic to freaking Fox lmfao
He has to be a troll at this point 😂😂
😂😂😂rs this is crazy I couldn’t take him seriously after thst
Bro you weren’t listening.
Listening is fundamental clown ..he really didn't say that at all... 🤦🏾♂️😂
Foxx is a beast wtf
Bringing up fox was a disgrace and not saying Jokic name correctly is a close second.
Damn yall casuals 😊
Stg .. if he just said Giannis it would’ve been cool but he brought up fox. Moronic.
@@otisyoungblood I’m not a casual. Comparing fox who I like to Jokic is criminal lol
This goofy tryna go viral
@@Half_Full-Since96facts
This guy stinks , get him off the air . How can you have worse takes than rob parker
I think he is pretty good
Stop hating cause you don’t like his opinions.
@@CensorTube84FOX the best player in the world?
@@CensorTube84That's not opinions, that's garbage
Bruh this guy again where they find this dude
i dunno what shaun king's sport expertise is, but it aint hoops
Back up QB with CTE
@@JamesKlass79😅😅😅😅
@@JamesKlass79lmao
Don’t let Shaun back on the show. Fox not even top 20 players in the nba
He doesn't belong in best in the game but probably is top 20!!!
@@jyanharris7957 top 25-30. Doesn’t break the top 20.
@jyanharris7957 I like Fox a lot but he is not top 20. He close tho but naw, he aint
When the US played Sebria with Jokic on the court, the score was 81-81 with Jokic off the court the US outscored Sebria 29-3.
And he was only off for 9 mins
When they played second time, 12 All Stars were needed to survive just one Nikola Jokić.
If that isn't a testimony to Jokić's greatness, I do not know what else is. Basically, it was Wilt vs Celtics in 1960s all over again.
Most black men don't want to admit that.A white player is the best in the NB.A
His defense is weak forget about his race
As a black man I agree, although I don't think his argument is based on race, he just on here saying stuff
Defense can be executed in different ways and it’s more of a team thing, especially in the nba. There is no replacing or replicating what Jokic can do. 2 way play does not cancel out the value of what Jokic and Luka can do offensively, that’s not how basketball players are evaluated. It’s definitely cuz they’re White.
@@Cahluvcaanalytics?😂
Sadly true
You know you have terrible takes when chris is running circles around you
Chris is the best basketball debater. Let’s not kid ourselves. He cooks damn near everyone he debates. Name someone better
@@realspitter2727 Rob is up there and maybe Ric Bucher is up there as well?
@@realspitter2727SAS is probably the only one better than Chris
@@1ZosoLZSas? 😂😂
@@1ZosoLZI love SAS and I do believe he know ball. But Chris is a way better debater when it comes to ball. SAS relies a little too much on theatrics imo
3 MVP in 4 years don’t separate you????????
& a fmvp
Giannis is better than
Jokic is the best player in the world, period.
The best player doesn't usually have the best team.
They had the best team coming into the playoffs because they lost he doesn’t anymore?
I always thought Giannis is still the best player in the league
There’s an argument the top 3 players maybe 4 could be the best player in the world
Nikola Jokic is NOT the best player in the world. Cut it tf out
@@bagoboy2446who is, then?
Chris has always been a Kobe hater, he was one of the ONLY media people from 2006-2010 trying to say Kobe wasn't the best, always been a hater..smh
This dude was a career back up and somehow still got CTE.
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂👍🏿
Why he gotta agree with you?
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If you are having trouble saying Jokic is the best player in the league here are your other somewhat acceptable choices:
1) Giannis
2) Luka
Up and comers:
Shai
Ant man
Wemby
Great but something is missing
1) Embiid
2) AD
3) Tatum
Sunset club:
Lebron
Steph
KD
A man that actually watches basketball
Beautifully said love this list
Sunset club 😅🎉
You knowWhats crazy too. He didnt even mention luka or giannis in the group of best players.
Chris did towards the end, the other guy is one something good. Fox is not even a top 15-20 player.
He said Luka quickly at the beginning "I didn't even mention Luka."
Not particularly close who’s the best player in the world. It’s Jokic by a mile. If the Canadian team had Jokic, I would pick Canada to win over USA.
No way team USA has way too many weapons.
Yeah, he would make Murray much better and, at the same time, would make SGA virtually unstoppabe.
Ain’t no one else has that kind of impact.
Deaaron fox 😂😂
I'm a Kings fan and I'm not even that delusional. I kind of wished we had kept Tyrese Haliburton over Fox as Fox is highly overrated.
I was wit him til he threw fox in there lol. He a good player but come on bruh
The answer to the 6 foot 3 question was derrick rose
@@ahamilton1189 rose won a mvp but he was never the best player in the league
@@soysaucehairdye7869Would u even pick Fox over Sabonis
That dude said De'aaron fox. Be for real. 😂😂
This is embarassing
Don’t invite him back
😂😂😂😂
I’d rather have Perk lol
Used to not mind Shaun king before this vid but my goodnesss…. This take was abominable
This dude Shaun King is giving clown takes trying to say D’Aron Fox and others could be considered best player in the world. He just doesn’t want Joker to be considered best player.
I mean this is the same dude that said Bronny is on Gabe Vincent’s level. Lol
Rob Parker getting a raise right now 😂😂
a guy just hates jokic and can't wrap his head around the fact he is the best lol
Fox ain’t even best player on the frigging kings😂😂
Did he just say Kobe was never the best player? Tf outta here
It’s one thing to have a take, but this guy Shaun can’t debate at all. Horrible.
This dude has no argument this is a bad take by Shaun
turned this off after i heard “DeAaron Fox stand up” 😂😂😂
Dude isn’t even respectful enough to say Jokic’s name correctly
Funny how Broussard always tries to shade Kobe but yet players , and commentators were saying Kobe was the best player during that time
Man says he doesn't care about feelings then starts to brag about Jokics 3 mvps. Thats an award based off of anothers feelings its crazy
Stop letting dudes with barber shop level of sports knowledge on this show
FACTS
The Western media has a bias against great Serbian players. Novak Djokovic faces the same bias against him even though he's the only player to achieve a Career Golden Masters. He also has won the most ATP Finals and the most Majors. The media still tries to put Federer and Nadal ahead of him when it's not even close to who the Goatkovic is.
Tennis Joker doesn't face it.
@@leonzaduncan2438 Goatkovic's channel documents all of the Western bias against Djokovic.
Nah, the western media doesn’t like anyone foreign. They’re extremely xenophobic
That last part about Kobe not being the best in the world is the reason I don’t take Chris seriously sometimes
He seriously got something against Kobe
Kobe was never better then lebron or shaq. Sorry to have to tell u brother
@@UnoDinero95001Kobe clears shaq past 2005
@@UnoDinero95001I believe pretty much everyone now puts Kobe ahead of Shaq all time especially after he passed him in rings
@@chilldoc9638not Tim Duncan 2005-2016.. Kobe gets overrated since he passed
Wth is he talking about😂😂😂
I love how dude randomly started pronouncing his name as “Yo-Kick” towards the end of the video. Dude is just silly
Dude is a clown his argument is terrible
Tell me who's the worse substitute... Shaun King or Martin Weiss? Help me out
Shaun King’s take boils down to Jokic just doesn’t have aura 💀
No, it's a/b Jokic skill set not dominating & reigning supreme over the league.......just saying 😐!!
@@ReverendSam1bro has the athleticism of a 60 year old and no one can stop him from dropping 26 12 and 9 the last 5 years. Sounds like domination to me 🤷
@@cyrillesu In those 5 seasons u speak of w/those #'s only ONE of them led to his skill set dominating over the league!! Of course I'm speaking of his team planting the teams flag as king of the hill(🏆)!!
@@ReverendSam1 so using your logic, Jayson Tatum is the best and most dominant player in the league last season because his team "planted the flag".
@@cyrillesu Tatum couldn't establish himself as the best player on his team, so no he's not the best player in the league!! I don't believe there is one right now, the position is vacant........ IMO 🤔😐!!
Dude said Fox😅😭😭😭
Seriously I'm just watching and waiting to see to what extent some people will desperately try to diminish Joker's status as the most intelligent, most fundamentally sound, most unselfish, most efficient basketball player. Pathetic.
This is the absolute worst take I've heard on the odd couple in my entire listening life! Shaun King lost all credibility talking basketball! Stick to your backup QB analysis and leave any basketball talk alone.. Wow
Shaun's opinion might be rooted in racism
More then likely xenophobia though racism definitely could be playing a role
Get this man off the show man what is he talking about
Man said DAARON FOX 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is truly embarrassing
I have read this communication on Twitter several times, when one side finds patience for the other dumbfounded side and then the dumbfounded side still talks incoherently.
I also think if he watched more than 3 Jokic games he would learn how to pronounce his last name, the dude didn't watch the whole Jokic game like ever.
Whoever loves ball knows Jokic plays one of the most pure brands of basketball ever - he gets his, makes his teammates better and is HUMBLE. They’re just mad he clears their favourite player by miles.
Imma be honest, IMO a healthy Giannis is the best player in the NBA....a healthy Giannis is literally unstoppable...like a prime Shaq to me
Couldn't agree more. Giannis needs to start chasing rings or he risks being underrated forever.
Giannis Wall lol
The disrespected the joker is absolutely unreal. I hate when someone disagrees with an argument so they tear down a player in order to make that argument man sports media is just absolutely nauseating.
Hasnt beat 50 win team in playoffs
@@xavierb9061can't beat one if they're rare in today's NBA. Since 2019, there have been an average of 3 50 win teams in the West and 6 in total every season. 2019 was their first year, no one was stopping LeBron and AD in 2020, the Nuggets were heavily injured in 2021, and everyone outside of Jokic had a bad series versus Minnesota last season. Not as balid of an argument as you might think.
@@cyrillesu embiid loses 50 win teams as well
He starts by listing several players that “could be considered the best player in the world”then immediately denies saying what he said. I can’t believe I actually miss Rob.
This reverse racism LMAO
Prolly more xenophobic then anything but i’m sure that plays a role in it
These Shaun king takes are so bad it’s hilarious
NGL Shaun saved himself at the last second mentioning Kobe. Chris is the leader of the Kobe hate train. He couldn’t bare hearing his name.
Nothing can save how bad he is.
@@Musso8771 he saved himself from me leaving the comment I was planning on leaving 😂
It's a fact that there's a few players competing for the spot
Wtf is this guy 😂😂😂
A cancer 😭
The problem with the world. Too many microphones, not enough brains
Klutch pulled the plug at the end of the video😂
😂😂😂What makes you think that?
Basically he’s saying he’s boring! He wanna see Ja jump out the gym but not have a jump shot! He said Fox! 😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
There's terrible takes and then there's TERRIBLE takes. His takes are worst than that.
You know is the summer when you heard some wacko on radio making outlandish claims without being jailed immediately
Tim Duncan. Chris all you had to say to this clown is Tim Duncan. He wasn't exciting but he was the best player in the world. This dude is part of the reason AAU is killing US basketball
Good take overall, but like Chris said NOBODY thought Steph was the best player in the world after 2022…
2014 til 2022 Steph best player in the world💯✊🏿and became one of the 5 best players to ever touch the court
Not even close buddy
@@oblivionpro69 then you don’t know basketball 🫵🏿😭there’s not player that effected the 5-5 game basketball like Steph curry my boy💯the game is bigger than the stat sheet
The only way u can determine goat in a team sport is how u feel. There is no fact
One of the worst debate performances I’ve ever seen. I tried (desperately) to give him the benefit of the doubt but Shaun brought less than nothing to the table
Chris just say you hate Kobe and get it over with
Its the truth not hate
Only let Shaun talk football, period
Shaun King Suffering from CTE? Fox? he is not even the best player on his team! Its Sabonis.
100000% im taking Sabonis over Swipedafox😂
that was the dumbest thing I ever heard a grown man say, and I have listened to Donald Trump talk in the last 8 years.
3 mvps out 4 of the last year plus could of been that one out of 4 smh
For a show that very frequently has some really dumb fill in hosts to begin with, this guy was astonishingly bad. Wow.
Never heard someone say so much, yet literally nothing at all.
If he ain’t who has accomplished more over the last 4 years maybe Giannis it’s a possible Bird V Magic situation if both could ever play each other in a couple finals
We won’t never see a bird and magic again in sports. Both were superstars in the first year. Magic won the nba title and bird changed Boston around they won 21 games they year before bird got there. Then 61 games as a rookie no comparison at all
@@deon3133 I’m talking modern version so cheap imitation but still best we got today
@@isaiahh4108 it ain’t no modern version of it. One is black and the other is black that’s they only thing they have in common nothing else.
@@deon3133 both are the best 2 players of the start of the global era of NBA clear story Luka will be there Jordan in this version
Bird and magic were dominant on BOTH sides of the ball. This era wants to make you think the best is just offense
Yeeeahh…let’s not have this guy back, please, Chris
Jokic is better passer Lebron, assist to turnover ratio
This guy reminds me of that one guy who covered for Rich Eisen and said Jokic wasn't top 15 in the league and that he would rather take Booker. He was wrong, and was never heard from again.
Nostalgia?!?! You can't have nostalgia with something you've never seen before
As a life long Buccaneers fan Shaun shut up you been letting me down since back in the day.
😂😂😂😂
Outside of Shaq AI was definitely the best player in league for 2 or so years. But as good as FOX is he’s not on Tatum level. Tatum been in 2 finals, won 1, & been in maybe 3 other ecf. & he’s a good defender
Very similar to what's happening with another Joker. Novak Djokovic. It's like Yeah he is the most successful tennis player ever but Federer had more elegant backhand?! 🤡
The best player has to include a defensive presence as well. So this eliminates him from the conversation
AI was NEVER the best player in the world.
Game 5 of the Western Conference Finals Jokic absolutely proved he was and is the Best Player in the world but not necessarily on the Best team. If he had another All Star player on the Nuggets legit that team is nearly unbeatable. MPJ and Jamal Murray are just too inconsistent although both can elevate their games at times. Also with extensive injury histories. Jokic is so great no matter what his team looks like is a playoff team. He needs help to be a Championship team but taking the Nuggets especially a few years ago to the Playoffs with 3 of the starting 5 injured was insane.
Preach! Fangirls have for some reason made it seem as if there's a prime MJ or Lebron gap for jokic being the best.. jokic got one ring in 10 years against an 8 seed, while also having a losing record to 5 seed or higher playoff teams.. not to mention the chokejob this MOST RECENT playoffs.. smh
His 2nd best player missed 2 straight years his 3rd 1 of those
In the way harder conference without other all stars and a franchise that never won anything 🫵🏿😭
@@isaiahh4108 Murray was healthy 2020 and 2024..
@@b84__ they were just bursting on the scene and came back from down 3-1 twice and then this year they blew a game 7 at home after being down 2-0 and up 3-2 they would’ve matched up well vs Bos Min choked vs Dal so we got upsets the west is crazy stacked tho
Name me 5 players that won title without all-star player.
Everytime i watch Jokic i don't walk away thinking he's the best in the world... I walk away thinking he was playing with kids... Those can't be pro players
Bro can’t pronounce any foreigners name whatsoever. Butchered Kucoc and Jokic! Does this guy even watch the games?
If there's a contest it's between Jokic and Giannis.
Maybe 4 years ago.
That contest has been nonexistent for about 2 years now
“joe-kick” 😂
Joe-kickch
He's right there is no "best player in the world rn" but Fox and Joker are not the same respectfully
Jokic is clearly the best player in the leauge.
Cap!!!!
Dearron Fox? Who is this guy Shaun King
I actually agree with Shaun when he says it’s a bunch of players competing for that spot
Would've been dope if you or your 6 liked listed some names atleast for credibility IMO
@@hardworkingcriminal4873like jokic giannis luka i would say is competing
@@unlimitedz2.014 If Embiid could stay healthy, he'd be right there (if not on top). He's either the unluckiest player since Sam Bowie or he's just fragile. But if he ever stays healthy for a whole season he could put up historic numbers.
I don't buy SGA above Luka, but he's dominant enough (including this Olympics) to be in the conversation. To me, anyone who wants to be in that competition has to have the numbers AND be able to carry a team deep into the playoffs, even without a strong team. That rules out Steph, LeBron (at this age), KD, or other all time greats.
I agree as well
@@SDesWriterbut he can’t and never will
"GROUP of guys..." ACTUALLY FACTS
it's not even close.... who is Shaun King Jr?
The only name I'll accept over Joker is Giannis
Giannis is only better at defense. Joker is far superior at shooting, 3s, free throws, passing. He better then him at all of those by a county a mile to.
everyone knows Isaiah Thomas the goat and did things with that ball someone ain't seen since him
A.I and Kyrie better. You trippin
@@FreeAgent797 wow you trying to drag me into a war against my guys but it ain't going to work,, go kiss the ring is all I can say,, Detroit basketball....
This guy's brain looks swollen
Lmaooooo
Lol this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about
To be honest the last few years y’all have been saying winning the championship makes you the best in the world. Y’all did it with Giannis and then Jokic.
apparently this dude have not been watching nba playoffs since 2020, the 0-3 comebacks. fox never past 1st round. what a joke this guy’s take is
Jokic IS a better passer than lebron
i always wonder how some people end up in these type of positions.. God bless him
He’s basically not flashy enough, which is irrelevant to the best player in the League conversation