Chris Broussard Disputes Isiah Thomas Saying Kevin Durant Saved Warriors' Legacy by Joining Them

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  • @Frantz_Gourdet
    @Frantz_Gourdet 10 місяців тому +244

    Chris "you better agree with me or I'm gunna scream while you talk" Broussard

  • @cpowerca
    @cpowerca 10 місяців тому +192

    KD without Steph: 0
    Curry without KD: 2
    who is saving whose legacy?

    • @jdot8911
      @jdot8911 10 місяців тому +46

      Without kd onna warriors Bron would have 6 chips rn

    • @falka6751
      @falka6751 10 місяців тому

      And KD would have 0 rings 😂​@@jdot8911

    • @Nandoswitharando
      @Nandoswitharando 10 місяців тому +38

      @@jdot8911which has nothing to do with the question lmao

    • @Musso8771
      @Musso8771 10 місяців тому +18

      That's the bottom line. I don't know how its ever even a question whether or not Durant needed the Warriors more or if they needed him more. Durant would have ended up being a slightly better Melo without the warriors.

    • @christiansoldier77
      @christiansoldier77 10 місяців тому +28

      You are missing the point. Gsw are viewed as a dynasty because they have 4 rings . They would not be a dynasty without KD. Also curry would be looked at different without KD and LeBron would likely have more rings and looked at differently as well. So kd did change their legacy

  • @cedricroney1475
    @cedricroney1475 10 місяців тому +84

    Chris always be interrupting then don't like it when it happens to him

    • @demariocrenshaw7691
      @demariocrenshaw7691 10 місяців тому +13

      Dude has a major ego problem. Wants to be the star of the show and passively bullies Rob by taking over. Lame as hell.

    • @mcdiesel7505
      @mcdiesel7505 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@demariocrenshaw7691I don't think he means to bully Rob but he does.

    • @shaq04
      @shaq04 10 місяців тому +8

      Facts. Used to come off as the level-headed, unbiased guy (especially as a guest on other shows) but every year that ego seems to grow a notch.

    • @jmoney4220
      @jmoney4220 10 місяців тому +5

      @@demariocrenshaw7691lmao idk how u see that. He’s obviously just passionate about sports specifically basketball. He has respect for Rob

    • @mccainbros7745
      @mccainbros7745 10 місяців тому +3

      frl! He says it’s better when one person speaks at a time for the listener then screams over Rob when he begins to talk

  • @anthonyzed2058
    @anthonyzed2058 10 місяців тому +158

    The irony of Chris saying, let’s not both speak at the same time lol

  • @freshprinceshaun
    @freshprinceshaun 10 місяців тому +73

    I 100% agree with Rob & I.T Adding KD gave the warriors the edge of over anyone in the league.

    • @Axecarter91
      @Axecarter91 10 місяців тому +14

      Yes and Chris is forgetting that KD going there also got rid of their biggest competition in the west

    • @NwoFresh
      @NwoFresh 10 місяців тому +1

      They was down 3-2
      To harden and cp3 though

    • @RonnySwank
      @RonnySwank 10 місяців тому +10

      @@NwoFreshand then warriors beat em without KD the next year

    • @sonya1911
      @sonya1911 10 місяців тому

      I agree wholeheartedly!

    • @freshprinceshaun
      @freshprinceshaun 10 місяців тому +4

      @@NwoFresh Warriors literally beat them without KD next szn. Lol Draymond was right that Houston Team was good but it wasnt great enough to beat

  • @josegrullon024
    @josegrullon024 10 місяців тому +4

    Yo Chris you have to bring back the "STOOOOP IT"!!!😂😂

  • @gregoryevans8179
    @gregoryevans8179 10 місяців тому +34

    Warriors won 73 games, and had a 3-1 lead in the finals before they ran out of gas. Had they kept Barnes or brought someone else in not named KD,they still would have been a title contender. Bringing in KD just made them unbeatable in a playoff situation.

    • @smoothsavage2870
      @smoothsavage2870 10 місяців тому +7

      Being a title contender and winning titles are 2 different things. There's nobody other than KD who they could've gotten to help them beat Lebron and his Cavs.

    • @gregoryevans8179
      @gregoryevans8179 10 місяців тому +6

      @@smoothsavage2870 Warriors were up 3-1, if the suspension of Draymond doesn’t happen series probably would have been over in 5.

    • @lucaspringle4037
      @lucaspringle4037 10 місяців тому

      You're out of your mind. And they already had a title and a 3-1 lead of the Cavs. Its amazing people always wanna acknowledge everything that went wrong for Cavs in 15 but not the Warriors in 16@@smoothsavage2870

    • @Saxandfifths
      @Saxandfifths 9 місяців тому +1

      I'm guessing Cleveland ran out of gas in 2015 as well, right?

    • @smoothsavage2870
      @smoothsavage2870 9 місяців тому +2

      @@gregoryevans8179 Draymond was there after the suspension. Yall act like he got suspended for the remainder of the series. The Cavs were in elimination games every game after game 4.

  • @EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach
    @EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach 10 місяців тому +22

    It wasn't just the Draymon Green Injury, both Bogut and Iggy got hurt game 5 when Draymon was out, so that series was definitely not the same after that

    • @klssplash
      @klssplash 10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you and game 7 bro they fetus guarding the paint before bogurt and iggy injury lebron wasn’t even in the paint lol but that’s what get loss

    • @Warriors49ers
      @Warriors49ers 10 місяців тому +3

      Also Steph came back from aninjury early and was hampered in the playoffs bc of it.

    • @EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach
      @EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach 10 місяців тому +1

      @@klssplash facts! Bogut was controlling the paint and I don’t mean dominant numbers, I mean influence of their defense in protecting the rim and keeping Tristan Thompson off the offensive glass. When he got hurt, all that changed

    • @EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach
      @EddieWoodsRemnantOutreach 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Warriors49ers definitely was a big reason they were able to chuck him like they were doing and Steph couldn’t do much against it.
      People forget they played physical against Steph in all 4 of the finals they played the warriors and that 2016 finals was really where that worked the most. I think it was like you said, due to injury

    • @jaylou8721
      @jaylou8721 10 місяців тому +2

      ​​​@@klssplashwhat gets lost is lebron almost beat them with Mozgov and Dellevadova as his co starts in their first rodeo when love and Kyrie got hurt
      That's why they flew to LI and begged KD to join them and they openly admitted they went to get him just to beat LeBron

  • @blazedup4208
    @blazedup4208 10 місяців тому +123

    Gilbert Arenas had a point that KD saved the legacy of Steph Klay and Draymond while at the same time tainting his own legacy, but Isaiah was definitely spot on

    • @bern717
      @bern717 10 місяців тому +23

      Steph won 2 regular season MVPs (one unanimous), 2 championships, and a Finals MVP without KD. How is that a legacy that needs “saving”?

    • @blazedup4208
      @blazedup4208 10 місяців тому +6

      You clearly didn't read what I said cuz I'm sure klay and Draymond can't say they have finals mvps let alone regular mvps KD joining the warriors made klay and Draymond guaranteed HOF guys while we 💩 on KD for taking the easy way out

    • @TweakLord6O
      @TweakLord6O 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah unfortunately you said it perfectly.

    • @TweakLord6O
      @TweakLord6O 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@bern717clown KD saved them period.

    • @cameroonbreezygoat903
      @cameroonbreezygoat903 10 місяців тому +12

      @@blazedup4208BS you don’t know what you’re talking about. They were beating everyone without KD being there. A lot of y’all just talk but don’t really know basketball. They would have probably beaten the Cavs if Draymond didn’t get suspended smh

  • @GambinoGaming305
    @GambinoGaming305 10 місяців тому +198

    I hate that people use draymond not playing game 5 as an excuse he played game 6/7 and they still lost

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому +51

      It is an excuse because when he got suspended they were up 3-1 and it completely changed the momentum of that series because if he doesn’t get suspended they win that series in 5

    • @brendanbloom3366
      @brendanbloom3366 10 місяців тому +20

      Bogut was a more important factor. Gs got lucky klay saved them game 6 in the wcf. Cavs should have figured gs out sooner and never gone down 3-1.

    • @mannyach8284
      @mannyach8284 10 місяців тому +47

      I hate that people use cavs getting hurt in 2015 as an excuse. You see how that works.

    • @klssplash
      @klssplash 10 місяців тому +30

      They loss iggy and bogurt that’s never get mentioned ever wtf are you people talking about it’s a reason bron was able to get in the paint 6 and 7

    • @clarenspierre1013
      @clarenspierre1013 10 місяців тому +16

      2015 WE LOST 2 OF 3 BEST PLAYERS I NEVER THEY TALK ABOUT IT

  • @jasonharris8099
    @jasonharris8099 10 місяців тому +143

    Chris sounds crazy because if Draymond, curry and klay thought they could beat the cavs without kd, they wouldn't have recruited him

    • @cw1229
      @cw1229 10 місяців тому +32

      Y’all do know that KD said out his own mouth that HE CALLED THEM after they won in 2015

    • @jasonharris8099
      @jasonharris8099 10 місяців тому +23

      @@cw1229 and they didn't have to pick up the phone if they were confident that they could win without him

    • @MeezyfBaby
      @MeezyfBaby 10 місяців тому +19

      @@cw1229 they flew cross country to beg for KD these are facts. that’s like Boston losing and Going across country to Recruit Steph lol

    • @cw1229
      @cw1229 10 місяців тому +25

      @@jasonharris8099 bro if a top player in the league wants to join your team that can’t beat you then why would you say no? That logic don’t even make sense KD lost to Steph not the other way around why would Steph feel away about a guy who he beat joining him?? Like dude I whoop yo ass then you call saying you want to be my best friend after I whoop you and somehow I look bad and not you?

    • @jeremyroberts8822
      @jeremyroberts8822 10 місяців тому +4

      @@jasonharris8099I hear what you’re saying but if your them you ain’t taking that call? If I’m them confident or not I woulda been thinking we can get KD? Well that’s atleast talk to him

  • @Ex-OTIC
    @Ex-OTIC 10 місяців тому +75

    Chris says the Warriors would’ve been motivated to come back and win in 2017, but who says they would’ve got there again? You can use the same argument that OKC would’ve been motivated to come back and beat the Warriors had KD stayed. Even the 2017 spurs would’ve proved a tough out for them especially if they didn’t have KD.

    • @RonnySwank
      @RonnySwank 10 місяців тому +8

      Who says they wouldn’t??? Klay bounced back from 2 freak injuries and they won a chip the FIRST year they were all healthy.

    • @matthewwashington87
      @matthewwashington87 10 місяців тому +7

      Agreed & to be honest that golden state team wasn’t beating Cleveland again.

    • @l9ikjam
      @l9ikjam 10 місяців тому +7

      ​@@RonnySwankthe warriors wasn't getting past okc again.

    • @thomasj1026
      @thomasj1026 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@matthewwashington87thru would have smashed Cleveland stop it

    • @thomasj1026
      @thomasj1026 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@l9ikjam 😂 warriors smoked all them. Easily do it again. Go back and look at the games.

  • @ZimMill
    @ZimMill 10 місяців тому +24

    They Always Bring Up That Dray Quote That He Said When He Was Trying To Be Friendly On The Pod, But Never Mention The Quote When Draymond Told KD To His Face “WE DON’T NEED YOU. WE’LL WIN AGAIN WHEN YOU LEAVE”
    They Never Bring That Part Up Tho

    • @kendarius23
      @kendarius23 10 місяців тому +1

      That was 5 years later tho

    • @ZimMill
      @ZimMill 10 місяців тому +4

      @@kendarius23 Klay Was Out For 2020 & 2021… They Literally Instantly Won Another Ring The 1st Year That They Were Back Whole

    • @GurtonBuster07
      @GurtonBuster07 10 місяців тому +1

      Just a bunch of casuals bruh remember the majority is not always right these mfs think they can gaslight ppl that know wtf happened lmao and know basketball and been watching basketball for years. Yall just can’t gaslight us like that ain’t gon work on me 😂

    • @ebonynerd
      @ebonynerd 10 місяців тому

      They had Wiggins and Poole who were dominanting to replace 1 KD but everyone forgets that

    • @ZimMill
      @ZimMill 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ebonynerd That’s The Point… KD Was Never Needed. They Replaced Him With 2 High Quality Role Players & Won Again
      Meanwhile He’s Hopping All Over The League & Still Can’t Even Make It To A Conference Finals… Warriors Saved KD Legacy

  • @WillPatterson-o5s
    @WillPatterson-o5s 10 місяців тому +63

    The Championship win Chris is debating was 6 years removed from 2016. Kevin Durant made them unstoppable

    • @sirwavydude5435
      @sirwavydude5435 10 місяців тому +12

      So, kD still hasn't won ish without them... Chris is right on this.... kD didn't have to play for them especially because they just beat him the year before.

    • @coolp9347
      @coolp9347 10 місяців тому +5

      @@sirwavydude5435you saying so is hilarious. Bruh 6 years later means that championship has 0 to do with 2016. Winning 6 years later doesn’t change that KD without question carry him

    • @euro51116
      @euro51116 10 місяців тому +2

      @@sirwavydude5435 it was a mutual benefit between an embarassed player and an even more embarassed, laughing stock of a team.

    • @scoop2448
      @scoop2448 10 місяців тому +4

      so what? they still had the same core in 2022
      and you don't have to be unstoppable in order to win multiple rings.
      2016 they barely lost in game 7 even with dray suspension and injuries. KD was paid 25+ mill a year on GS. If they didnt get him they would have that money to get another all star and bench players

    • @scoop2448
      @scoop2448 10 місяців тому +5

      @@coolp9347 they still had the same core, coach and system in 2022.
      KD did not carry them. curry had 27/6/6 in 17 and 18 playoffs.

  • @trueskool1977
    @trueskool1977 10 місяців тому +12

    They won with Harrison Barnes and then Andrew Wiggins at the small forward position. Kevin Durant was over the top, but all they needed was a serviceable small forward who could defend and give you 12 to 18 ppg a la Wiggins

    • @lonnellgrigsby1367
      @lonnellgrigsby1367 4 місяці тому

      How many years in between Harrison Barnes till Andrew Wiggins Lebron James and Cleveland figured them out

  • @AggravatedMan365
    @AggravatedMan365 10 місяців тому +131

    Lebron would have at least five chips if it weren't for Durant's move

    • @judahmourneth3211
      @judahmourneth3211 10 місяців тому +23

      2017 was winnable, lebron just let KD bust his ass. Especially in the 4th when the games were close.

    • @fashionlife5348
      @fashionlife5348 10 місяців тому +10

      Thats why they hate Durant and make no sense while at it

    • @pluto8214
      @pluto8214 10 місяців тому +19

      @@judahmourneth3211yea your a casual don’t talk ball ever again

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому +14

      And GS would've racked up 4 or more if KD stayed. Then there's that.

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M 10 місяців тому +8

      And he wouldn't have any if he didn't mow around.
      He also would have to send the 2012 ring to KD

  • @MrTdollarsign
    @MrTdollarsign 10 місяців тому +40

    Its true remember when the Warriors won they 1st tittle the Cavs didn't have Kevin Love and Kyrie due to injuries.

    • @kjames737
      @kjames737 10 місяців тому +20

      2016 came down to a game 7 and final shot from kyrie. How does guarantee the cavs win the next yr😂

    • @smileyaliens123
      @smileyaliens123 10 місяців тому

      Cause they came back 3-1 is how​@@kjames737

    • @victorwilliams9674
      @victorwilliams9674 10 місяців тому +1

      yup

    • @jaylou8721
      @jaylou8721 10 місяців тому +12

      Thank you everybody always makes excuses for everybody else
      Those injuries stopped lebron from beating them the 1st time
      He almost beat them with Mozgov AND Dellevadova
      The warriors probably never even win if that 1st series doesn't happen with those injuries to kyrie and Love

    • @swagg2much864
      @swagg2much864 10 місяців тому

      Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @mccainbros7745
    @mccainbros7745 10 місяців тому +121

    ofc chris does. we all know he’s not the biggest kd fan 😂

    • @K124B
      @K124B 10 місяців тому +30

      ofc Rob has Thomas as #2, we all know he's not the biggest Curry fan 😂

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому +19

      Chris is the CEO of the Bron Ball Washing Fan Club.

    • @z-mane1438
      @z-mane1438 10 місяців тому +7

      @@greggibson33😂😂😂 CEO, CFO, treasurer

    • @shawnba2294
      @shawnba2294 10 місяців тому +10

      @@greggibson33I’m not sure why ppl keep saying this when he doesn’t even have bron as the goat. lol make it make sense

    • @Ex-OTIC
      @Ex-OTIC 10 місяців тому +7

      @@K124Bcurry is not a point guard, never even averaged 9 assists. Compare him to Reggie and Ray.

  • @ernestmcdonald6736
    @ernestmcdonald6736 10 місяців тому +34

    This makes sense considering GS has not won championships without KD…oh wait lol

    • @dparks2856
      @dparks2856 10 місяців тому +16

      They needed KD to counter Lebron. Steph was not that yet

    • @jasonharris8099
      @jasonharris8099 10 місяців тому +10

      They're talking about them beating the cavs. Pay attention

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому +13

      @@jasonharris8099But then the correct thing would be to say they needed each other because KD has not won nothing outside of Golden State

    • @jasonharris8099
      @jasonharris8099 10 місяців тому +2

      @jakieresykes3644 nobody is debating that. The question is " would gs beat the cavs WITHOUT kd"

    • @jasonharris8099
      @jasonharris8099 10 місяців тому +2

      @jakieresykes3644 at the end of the day kd nor gs wanted to see lebron without teaming up

  • @propanetank8640
    @propanetank8640 10 місяців тому +28

    The warriors proved they could win w/0 KD but he’s never proven he could win w/0 them . Charles Barkley was spot on

    • @wzrdhndrixx7089
      @wzrdhndrixx7089 9 місяців тому +3

      That’s not point understand the question THEIR LEGACIES WOULD BE DUFFERENT THEY WOULDNT HAVE REPEATED

    • @delanioporter8430
      @delanioporter8430 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah years later after roster changes. This point is irrelevant.

    • @kbjr9423
      @kbjr9423 7 місяців тому

      The core is still there​@@delanioporter8430

    • @lonnellgrigsby1367
      @lonnellgrigsby1367 3 місяці тому

      @@propanetank8640 they prove 5 years later they can win another Ring 💍 if Lebron and Cleveland win 3 straight championships kyrie goes no where and Lebron stills happy in Cleveland with 5 or 6 Rings. Kevin Durant changed History do you guys realize that lol 😂

  • @markwright9269
    @markwright9269 10 місяців тому +34

    Steph is a shooting guard wish they would stop saying point guard. A point guard facilitates before shooting.

    • @K0shimae
      @K0shimae 10 місяців тому +8

      so we cant call lebron the greatest SF and cant call Jokic a center right? cause these positions dont initiate the offense. tell me bozo

    • @chrisberry789
      @chrisberry789 10 місяців тому +2

      he plays PG on the roster. and is PG on the depth chart. Klay is the SG. How they play may not fully define the position, but we can't change their positions just cause.

    • @jtrails694
      @jtrails694 10 місяців тому +1

      I agree hes 2guard masquerading as a 1 mainly due to his lack of size to play at the 2 and hes a great ball handler

    • @clarenspierre1013
      @clarenspierre1013 10 місяців тому

      IM SO PISS WHEN THEY CALLED HIM LIKE THAT BRO

  • @davincerica7232
    @davincerica7232 10 місяців тому +8

    Of course, the guys that were there don't remember Bogut being injured 😂

    • @jaylou8721
      @jaylou8721 10 місяців тому +2

      People don't remember love and kyrie being injured in they 1st rodeo either
      And lebron almost beat them with Mozgov and Dellevadova

    • @davincerica7232
      @davincerica7232 10 місяців тому

      @jaylou8721 I think most people remember that... 🤔 or they should for sure... That's such a bummer, man... Kyrie's knee blew in game 1

  • @rsdiegos
    @rsdiegos 10 місяців тому +38

    I can’t let Chris get away with the hogwash at the beginning, thank you Rob for interjecting before Chris went on his schpeeel

    • @jayplunks
      @jayplunks 10 місяців тому +7

      Warriors winning in 2022 doesn't make that argument BS?

    • @kinghova9197
      @kinghova9197 10 місяців тому +1

      Rob sucks 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jayplunks Yep.

    • @mcdiesel7505
      @mcdiesel7505 10 місяців тому

      😂😂😂WARRIORS would've lost to Houston the following years!

    • @jayplunks
      @jayplunks 10 місяців тому +2

      @@mcdiesel7505 they lost to the Warriors without Durant "😂😂😂"

  • @IkesMovies
    @IkesMovies 10 місяців тому +6

    They needed each other❤️lol

  • @ZimMill
    @ZimMill 10 місяців тому +17

    The Warriors Saved KD… Without KD, They’re Still At MINIMUM, Two Time Champs… Without The Warriors, KD Is Nothing But Carmelo Anthony Supreme

    • @kinghova9197
      @kinghova9197 10 місяців тому +1

      U just made the point for KD 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ZimMill
      @ZimMill 10 місяців тому +1

      @@kinghova9197 The Fact That KD Would Be Ringless Without GS Makes What Point For KD Exactly?

    • @jaylou8721
      @jaylou8721 10 місяців тому

      Good one glorified Carmelo Anthony
      Yes his is

    • @smoothsavage2870
      @smoothsavage2870 10 місяців тому

      @@ZimMill We dont know if KD would be ringless or not. Yall just assume that because you hate him. The way you think about KD NOW is because you hate him for going to the Warriors. The reason you respect the Warriors NOW is because you hate KD for going there and you praise them to spite KD. He DEFINITELY is the reason people view them in a good light these days.

    • @ZimMill
      @ZimMill 10 місяців тому

      @@smoothsavage2870 You Way Too Emotional Dude It Ain’t That Deep
      KD Been In The League For 17 Years & He Played 3 Years In Golden State So Do The Math… We Have A 14 Year Sample Size Of Evidence Where He Played Outside Of Golden State & He Is 0/14 As Far As Winning A Championship… KD Is A Champion Because The Warriors Made Him A Champion… The Warriors Are Champions With Or Without KD
      Nothing About This Has Emotion Involved, These Are Unimpeachable Facts

  • @ghost-nj7qy
    @ghost-nj7qy 10 місяців тому +15

    we would still have two rings Steph would be 2 time MVP and nba final MVP and kd would have one MVP and one finals appearance

    • @Sudosaiyajin
      @Sudosaiyajin 10 місяців тому +5

      And everyone would still know KD is the greater player

    • @ghost-nj7qy
      @ghost-nj7qy 10 місяців тому +6

      @@Sudosaiyajin kd would have no rings and one mvp if he didn’t join Golden State

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist 10 місяців тому

      We actually have no clue who would've won if they didn't stack the deck​@@ghost-nj7qy

    • @bern717
      @bern717 10 місяців тому +5

      @@SudosaiyajinSteph beat the same Boston Celtics team that swept KD in the first round 🧹🥴

    • @Sudosaiyajin
      @Sudosaiyajin 10 місяців тому +4

      @@ghost-nj7qy kd is the reason those boys throw up 4’s

  • @Truthorfib
    @Truthorfib 10 місяців тому +17

    Man, I can’t believe I’m agreeing with Rob

  • @stevenkraft8070
    @stevenkraft8070 10 місяців тому +35

    The Warriors nearly won the 2016 Finals against Cleveland, which was actually a pretty great Finals. Let's remember that they were in game 7 all the way down to the last 2 or 3 minutes, even with Draymond Green's suspension and injuries to Andre Iguodala and Andrew Bogut and with Steph Curry not being 100% because of his knee. So, if KD had signed somewhere else, the Warriors had a good chance of coming back in 2017 if they had better injury luck and Draymond played more in control. KD signing just made them an uber-superteam that only injuries could stop. And injuries was how that team was stopped vs. the Raptors in 2019.

    • @mumblezz__5890
      @mumblezz__5890 10 місяців тому +5

      Yea no they didn’t. They almost won when cavs were injured af and it was only lebron delly and shitty players

    • @rulerhbf
      @rulerhbf 10 місяців тому

      On god! The injuries stopped them.

    • @thabisodladla2946
      @thabisodladla2946 10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah GSW could have lost in 2015 had Kyrie and KLove been healthy.

    • @gmurder13905
      @gmurder13905 10 місяців тому +1

      The thing that people ignore is if KD signed somewhere else whatever contender he signed with would be a favorite

    • @mannyach8284
      @mannyach8284 10 місяців тому +6

      People will never accept the truth but they will accept the truth of the cavs being hurt in 2015. It’s asinine. The team won 73 games and were 2 minutes away from completing basketball. Yet folks say they never would’ve had a chance. It’s insane. Some folks should just shut up and not talk basketball. Could they have lost? Possibly, but they could have won just as much.

  • @ZimMill
    @ZimMill 10 місяців тому +17

    How Can You Save A Team That Won Twice Without You & You Never Won Without Them? The Math Says That Team Saved You

    • @z-mane1438
      @z-mane1438 10 місяців тому

      Would you hold the warriors in high regard if they would’ve won 2 instead of 4??

    • @lindaalexander7339
      @lindaalexander7339 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@z-mane1438 would you hold KD in high regard if he won 0. He did a doggone thing until he came to the Warriors.

    • @z-mane1438
      @z-mane1438 10 місяців тому

      @@lindaalexander7339 no I wouldn’t and it’s the other way around as well

    • @victorwilliams9674
      @victorwilliams9674 10 місяців тому

      they won one before kd

    • @ZimMill
      @ZimMill 10 місяців тому

      @@z-mane1438 How Is It The Other Way Around If They Still Have 2? It’s Not An Equal Give & Take

  • @anthonycummings9174
    @anthonycummings9174 10 місяців тому +40

    Chris Brassard keeps the narrative like John Wick keeps guns😂😂😂😂

    • @ojoj5194
      @ojoj5194 10 місяців тому +4

      HE HATES KD.

    • @mccainbros7745
      @mccainbros7745 10 місяців тому

      Ong it’s annoying! He hates kd and it’s obvious!!

    • @richardturner1063
      @richardturner1063 10 місяців тому +2

      Who had the weaker competition between MJ and Lebron.
      Who NEVER PLAYED OR BEAT A SUPERTEAM (3 HOFs on 1 team e.g. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman) on his many final appearances. Talk about weak. Chris thinks he's slick and we don't know basketball history. SMDH
      Some guy answered me the Pistons, but they had been to 3 straight Finals before Jordan beat them. If you know NBA History, after 3 finals the team is done by the 4th year. You can check every team. GTFOH

    • @skillethead15
      @skillethead15 10 місяців тому

      Chris is the main dude along with Barkley who just can’t stop hating on KD every chance they get. It’s sad.

    • @jaygainer7955
      @jaygainer7955 10 місяців тому

      @@richardturner1063so by that logic Lebron only started winning bcuz Kobe was done right ?tf you talking about ? Do you know that d Wade is better at literally everything then Scottie Pippen ! Like who tf y’all think y’all be talking about ?

  • @SkinsFan902
    @SkinsFan902 10 місяців тому +32

    They wouldn't have had Wiggins in 2022 if it wasn't for KD and he was arguably their most impactful player in that finals.

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому +3

      KD has not won nothing outside of Golden State the Golden State Warriors has won without them twice

    • @bern717
      @bern717 10 місяців тому +16

      More “impactful” than Steph Curry? Did you watch Game 4? I mean, what kind of casual are you 🤢

    • @ojoj5194
      @ojoj5194 10 місяців тому

      @@jakieresykes3644 DO THEY BEAT KYRIE AND LOVE IN THOSE FINALS?

    • @cameroonbreezygoat903
      @cameroonbreezygoat903 10 місяців тому +5

      @@bern717lol I hate these watered down ESPN type fans with bc a passion

    • @bern717
      @bern717 10 місяців тому

      @@cameroonbreezygoat903 ehh, they don’t even watch the games, I swear. They look at box scores and form their simple-‘minded opinion 😭😆

  • @Ben2bwild
    @Ben2bwild 10 місяців тому +7

    Biggest reason Warriors lost was because Bogut got hurt. They had no inside presence once Bogut went down. For me, Bogut's absence hurt them more than Draymond getting suspended

    • @clarenspierre1013
      @clarenspierre1013 10 місяців тому +1

      SAME ABOUT MY TEAM 2015 WE LOST 2 OF UR 3 BEST PLAYERS TF U TALKIN ABOUT COME ON PLEASEEEEE

    • @Ben2bwild
      @Ben2bwild 10 місяців тому +2

      @clarenspierre1013 You know two things can be true right? What does your comment have to do with mine? Ofc losing players affect outcomes. That's my point lol

    • @jandt3463
      @jandt3463 9 місяців тому

      @@Ben2bwild Injuries are no excuse for losses

    • @Ben2bwild
      @Ben2bwild 9 місяців тому

      @jandt3463 it's a reason not an excuse lol. An excuse would be playing badly and then making an excuse. Injuries are part of the game and hence, a legit reason for a team to lose.

    • @jandt3463
      @jandt3463 9 місяців тому

      @@Ben2bwild Still an excuse, someone else could've stepped up. Ask Tom Brady.......

  • @ILLaddict90
    @ILLaddict90 10 місяців тому +5

    Rob hates new media UNLESS they agree with him. Now its “preach draymond”

  • @_M3NACE_
    @_M3NACE_ 10 місяців тому +1

    7:25 LMAO Dray loves Bron more than himself or his team. C'mon Chris.

  • @tallsmile28
    @tallsmile28 10 місяців тому +71

    Its the truth. If KD did not join the Warriors Lebron was going to dominate.

    • @zacharygodfrey874
      @zacharygodfrey874 10 місяців тому +10

      Maybe the cavs win in 17, but without Kyrie, they would still lose in 18.

    • @montgeez06
      @montgeez06 10 місяців тому +4

      Warriors would’ve been broken up by then , losing 3-1 and then again

    • @TheChrismasCow
      @TheChrismasCow 10 місяців тому +15

      Draymond being suspended, curry on one leg, bogut injured, Harrison barnes 0cluch gene. We sure

    • @TheChrismasCow
      @TheChrismasCow 10 місяців тому

      @@montgeez06 lol or they would come back better

    • @thetannernation
      @thetannernation 10 місяців тому +12

      @@zacharygodfrey874Kyrie don’t leave if CLE keep winning chips

  • @BOSSMOSS21
    @BOSSMOSS21 10 місяців тому +4

    Legacy looks very different with 2 rings, like Houston Rockets team in the 90's it's not a diss but that's the level they would be perceived as possibly even slightly worse given that 3 - 1 collapse.

  • @brooklynblack9015
    @brooklynblack9015 10 місяців тому +39

    I agree with the legend Isiah Thomas 💯

    • @rdogletree4543
      @rdogletree4543 10 місяців тому

      Me too, the Cavs had more star power with LeBron, Kyrie, and Love vs Steph and Klay. KD added the star that they needed who had the ability to score in multiple ways. Steph and Klay are outside scorers, KD can get a shot anywhere on the court on his own. Klay doesn't create his own shot so they really only had 1 guy that could do that. LeBron and Kyrie create their own shot.

  • @joewhitaker2839
    @joewhitaker2839 10 місяців тому +28

    Rob and Isaiah Thomas are correct Kyrie & LeBron probably win 3 championship in a row period for the NBA

    • @sv1global599
      @sv1global599 10 місяців тому +10

      they couldn't win two, how did you come up with three? had the warriors not signed KD, it's safe to say they would've found a quality free agent. I love Zeke, but he's salty that Curry has dethroned him in the eyes of many as #2 goat pg. lebron seemingly bought Dray, & Rob is wet blanket on most topics

    • @AilmanF2P
      @AilmanF2P 10 місяців тому

      @@sv1global599 The entire team was back and healthy, if guys were traded or injured sure. The Cavs did make it back to the finals. The notion they wouldn't win without a DK Warriors and not let's say the series is 2-0 the Cavs will always feel like they have a chance. Or better yet 2--2 with the Warriors winning the last two, even with back to back wins the Warriors would always feel we played well the last 4 days but anything can turn. Thats not hate, the only one that could even guard Lebron on that team was DK. He guarded the best guy and still put up 30. Including hit two clutch shots in both finals, a random free agent thats not a top 5 guy won't be doing that. At that time outside of Steph DK was the second best player in the league.

    • @mannyach8284
      @mannyach8284 10 місяців тому +3

      Man couldn’t win 3 in a row in the Heatles yet he’ll do it with the Cavs? Y’all are ridiculous.

    • @sv1global599
      @sv1global599 10 місяців тому

      it took Draymond getting suspended for Cavs to make the great comeback@@AilmanF2P

  • @michaelpowell9152
    @michaelpowell9152 6 місяців тому +2

    Chris said Steph @ #2 PG behind Magic & Zeke is #4🤔🙊 Chris done lost his mind 😂😂

  • @16sshotz
    @16sshotz 10 місяців тому +42

    Hell i knew before the video Chris would be oppose to it. He's hated KD since 2019 when KD called him a liar. Ever since then on EVERY show when Kd names come up Chris salts him. Now he disagrees with a professional.

    • @tamaralowe8726
      @tamaralowe8726 10 місяців тому +13

      Exactly. Chris even hates to bring up KD, unless it's something negative. I bet if KD wins a ring in PHX, Chris still will find a way to spin it in a negative way.

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому +6

      Chris hates KD more than Rob hates Bron.... that's a lot of hate. 😆

    • @andrebritten
      @andrebritten 10 місяців тому +4

      I definitely noticed that too. Just goes to show these media guys be in their feelings and dishonest

    • @courtneywilliams394
      @courtneywilliams394 10 місяців тому +5

      Mane I thought I was the only person who noticed Chris don’t mess with KD after he called him a liar.😂 It’s like everytime they talk about KD Chris got something negative to say about him

    • @16sshotz
      @16sshotz 10 місяців тому +4

      @@courtneywilliams394EVERYTIME breh . Even yesterday on FTF , Nick gave KD props on his recent play &Chris immediately said “but Shai’s better “ 😂 man got real hate for KD

  • @bashiriasad789
    @bashiriasad789 10 місяців тому +16

    Chris is right.
    They were gonna win two maybe 3 without KD.
    KD is part of the dynasty, but not the main reason.

    • @armandoestrada5224
      @armandoestrada5224 10 місяців тому +2

      Finally! A man with common sense! 💪

    • @RonJP-pm7jp
      @RonJP-pm7jp 10 місяців тому +1

      How when even Draymond said they wouldn’t have won anymore? Bron figured the Warriors out. Hell he figured them out now.

    • @victorwilliams9674
      @victorwilliams9674 10 місяців тому +1

      cap

    • @LOTM-bh7zx
      @LOTM-bh7zx 10 місяців тому

      ​@@RonJP-pm7jp 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @smoove2432
      @smoove2432 10 місяців тому +2

      🧢

  • @christiansoldier77
    @christiansoldier77 10 місяців тому +17

    I have been saying this for years but people are too obsessed with the false gsw narrative of being a dynasty without KD

    • @ghost-nj7qy
      @ghost-nj7qy 10 місяців тому +7

      Ok cool we would still have 2 rings and he would have none 😂😂😂

    • @christiansoldier77
      @christiansoldier77 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ghost-nj7qy you don't know that. What if he had joined Boston with brown and Tatum? They could have easily won a couple of chips

    • @ghost-nj7qy
      @ghost-nj7qy 10 місяців тому +5

      @@christiansoldier77 now playing the what if game 😂😂😂😂

    • @ghost-nj7qy
      @ghost-nj7qy 10 місяців тому +4

      @@christiansoldier77 we can say damn thing in 2016 if Draymond green doesn’t get suspended or Andrew Bogut doesn’t get hurt but I don’t bc I don’t play the what if games

    • @darnellwilliams8783
      @darnellwilliams8783 10 місяців тому +5

      ​@@ghost-nj7qyyall KD haters big mad Isiah told the truth draymond begged KD in the parking lot

  • @WhosTYE
    @WhosTYE 10 місяців тому +22

    I don’t think that Chris realizes that a lot of people believe that the warriors would have never beat the Cavs without KD because LeBron & Kyrie took their heart out of

    • @sv1global599
      @sv1global599 10 місяців тому +3

      the tricky part of the conversation is that we're assuming that if the warriors were unable to acquire KD, they wouldnt have signed another lesser free agent to give them a needed spark. barnes played an early role, poole later role. based on how things have played out since Curry has been a warrior, I can't honestly say that they wouldnt have continued on their dynasty run

    • @RonJP-pm7jp
      @RonJP-pm7jp 10 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. The Cavs walked them down from 3-1 and figured them out. If KD wouldn’t came to GS the Cavs would’ve owned the Warriors

    • @RonJP-pm7jp
      @RonJP-pm7jp 10 місяців тому +3

      @@sv1global599Barnes was part of the reason they lost so you would’ve needed to replace Barnes and besides KD there was no one at that time to really replace Barnes that could’ve done something with Bron.

    • @ZhyonFlowers
      @ZhyonFlowers 10 місяців тому +1

      @@RonJP-pm7jpyou have literally nothing to back that up…..

    • @LeFraudLosesFinalsEveryDayB
      @LeFraudLosesFinalsEveryDayB 10 місяців тому +2

      No he couldn’t even beat Jason Terry in 2011

  • @savoy4636
    @savoy4636 7 місяців тому +1

    Everybody forgets Andrew Bogut, their premiere paint protector for the entire season got hurt as well. Once that happened Kyrie and Lebron had free reign at the rim

  • @MrTRENT954
    @MrTRENT954 8 місяців тому +1

    Zeke is spot on, GS was not going to beat Lebron those next 2 years without KD that’s just facts in fact 2018 Lebron was by far the best player I had ever witness with every tool in his Arsonal

  • @eriktorkelson2630
    @eriktorkelson2630 10 місяців тому +16

    I don't think the Warriors even make the finals in 2018 without KD. It took an injured CP3 & 27 straight missed 3PA for the Warriors to beat the Rockets in 7

    • @klssplash
      @klssplash 10 місяців тому

      So how did they beat the rockets without KD stop talking you sound stupid

    • @scoop2448
      @scoop2448 10 місяців тому

      @@joe97nsx well no sh!t.. that will happen if your MVP type player goes down

    • @jaylou8721
      @jaylou8721 10 місяців тому

      ​@@scoop2448what he's saying is that proves the point They needed KD
      Chris Broussard is wrong

    • @scoop2448
      @scoop2448 10 місяців тому

      @@jaylou8721 Obviously did not need KD since they destroyed the league and went 16-1 in playoffs in 2017.
      In 2019, Kd was injured and replaced by his backup. If they never got KD they would have 25 million in cap and got an all star and bench players. You cant just take KD off the team and not replace him lol

    • @litany21
      @litany21 8 місяців тому

      And the Rockets got horrendous calls against them in Game 7, missed 27 3-point shots in a row…only lost by 9.

  • @commit2gr8ness
    @commit2gr8ness 10 місяців тому +5

    Rob is such a hypocrite man. He says that winning 3 chips in 4 years is a dynasty, but when he was asked if the chiefs were a dynasty he said no lmao

    • @nav9867
      @nav9867 10 місяців тому

      😂😂😂he hates mahomes, but loves KD

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 7 місяців тому

      He’s a jabroni 🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @SH-jd3zg
    @SH-jd3zg 10 місяців тому +41

    The whole trajectory would have changed if KD never went there. The warriors were psychologically defeated during that series it was really a mental series. The way they kept attacking curry. Remember lebron even blocked his shot on a timeout

    • @cameroonbreezygoat903
      @cameroonbreezygoat903 10 місяців тому +23

      Shut up lol If Draymond didn’t get suspended they probably beat the Cavs 4-1

    • @SH-jd3zg
      @SH-jd3zg 10 місяців тому +12

      @@cameroonbreezygoat903 nah because when Draymond came back they still lost. He got suspended they had 2 more games after that to win

    • @asiantrick24
      @asiantrick24 10 місяців тому

      didn't Draymond come back for game 6 and 7. Still took that L at HOME@@cameroonbreezygoat903

    • @julianbell9161
      @julianbell9161 10 місяців тому +18

      This is silly. The Dubs didn’t get swept by the Cavs, they came very very close to winning. This notion that they couldn’t compete is ludicrous. Getting KD ensured they would beat the Cavs, but the Dubs were not completely defeated and unable to compete.

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому +17

      @@SH-jd3zgWhen Draymond got suspended it completely changed the momentum of that series

  • @curtisnero7388
    @curtisnero7388 10 місяців тому +2

    Kd was the topping on the Warriors

  • @kolapengineer
    @kolapengineer 10 місяців тому +2

    To make this more inclusive: we need to have polls on debates like this and not just callers 🤗

  • @djnes2k7
    @djnes2k7 10 місяців тому +10

    It was not colossal choke, this media play media tricks. I love how it’s not mentioned the warriors lost their center in game 4. Ain’t it weird to mention the lane was open because their only big was missing after game 4.

    • @jandt3463
      @jandt3463 9 місяців тому

      Injuries are no excuse for losses

    • @Dean543-cc3fd
      @Dean543-cc3fd 8 місяців тому

      They choked, cry forever

    • @2cents250
      @2cents250 7 місяців тому

      it was a choke job bc the guys that were supposed to show up underperformed. Steph Curry was awful in game 7 2016.

  • @Spotdogg32
    @Spotdogg32 10 місяців тому +2

    People forgot Bogut was injured, Iggy injured, Steph was dealing with injury also. Draymond suspended. CAVS caught the best break to win that series. So stop the nonsense.

  • @kalanievans2341
    @kalanievans2341 10 місяців тому +11

    They didnt need KD to beat Cleveland they just needed a solid piece or two which they would've gotten had KD not signed.

    • @asiantrick24
      @asiantrick24 10 місяців тому +2

      are you seriously comparing a solid piece to the top 3 players in the world at that time? Come on man.

    • @NwoFresh
      @NwoFresh 10 місяців тому +1

      They lost in 19 when Durant got hurt

    • @j317
      @j317 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@asiantrick24 but they didn't need him cavs caught several breaks in order for them to barely win let's stop acting like the cavs just dominated the warriors to the point the warriors couldn't have beat them

    • @khalifsamuels
      @khalifsamuels 10 місяців тому

      Stop the cap 🧢 they not winning back to back finals 🤔🤫 without kd 😂😂😂😂

    • @victorwilliams9674
      @victorwilliams9674 10 місяців тому

      big time cap

  • @erickay1158
    @erickay1158 10 місяців тому +1

    GSW really only won one championship legitimately. Which was 2022. The ones with Durant were cheating and when they beat the Cavaliers in 2015, Kevin Love didn’t play the entire series and Kyrie Irving was lost halfway through the first game I believe for the rest of the series. LeBron was playing by himself in 2015! That doesn’t count.

  • @Rahworldd
    @Rahworldd 8 місяців тому

    I wish their whole show was streamed on UA-cam. I tried listenin on one of those radio apps but the commercials ended me lol

  • @Blackbolt-411
    @Blackbolt-411 10 місяців тому +15

    No one is debating GSW being a great team but as far as a Dynasty .. without KD they would if fell short

    • @sv1global599
      @sv1global599 10 місяців тому +2

      how can we assume that knowing BobMyers was great at his job? if it wasn't KD, it could've been a lesser free agent. KD was a overkill

    • @Nandoswitharando
      @Nandoswitharando 10 місяців тому +2

      If the dynasty wins half of their rings without you even being on the team, you weren’t that important.

  • @jaycastro5044
    @jaycastro5044 10 місяців тому +3

    Chris gets ultra sensitive every time it comes to these Steph and Warriors debates. I remember watching some podcast with a couple Warriors fans and Rob was their guest, and when Rob expressed his opinion about Steph not being the "greatest shooter" of all time, they let him finish his opinion before they express theirs. They're being chill about it. But Chris always has to interrupt.

    • @Ex-OTIC
      @Ex-OTIC 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah he always interrupts Rob but gets emotional when Rob does it

  • @Jtyonbronruss
    @Jtyonbronruss 10 місяців тому +3

    Draymond is also contradicting… he said those Cavs team was never beating them but then goes to say they wouldn’t have won without KD. Make it make sense, also everybody who played GS says the game planned for Steph really so how did KD save their legacy? They saved his by being the best team and letting him just put up numbers like he does, he has no real proof that he can actually LEAD a team being the absolute best player

  • @xanxus8272
    @xanxus8272 9 місяців тому +2

    People that didn't play simply don't know how exhausting it is to win 73 regular games and then making it to the finals. People can talk all they want, but this Warrior's core (7th, 11th and 35th pick) already far exceeded the expectations.

    • @dparks2856
      @dparks2856 9 місяців тому

      Oh poor Warriors

  • @ramsesstafford4640
    @ramsesstafford4640 10 місяців тому +1

    I will tell Isiah to his face if that's true then LeBron saved both his own legacy, D-Wade's and Heat culture legacy by going to Miami. People just want to pick and choose on who they disrespect to put their false narratives out and you have to be fair if you do that you can't be one sided and bias.

  • @kinglou1908
    @kinglou1908 10 місяців тому +6

    They’ll say anything to discredit curry. Whooped lebron that bad

    • @2cents250
      @2cents250 10 місяців тому

      he has never outplayed lebron in a single playoff series. just been on better roster but 1 on 1 it is not even close when you look at their stats.

    • @LOTM-bh7zx
      @LOTM-bh7zx 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@2cents250 so stats are better than rings? Typical LeBron thinking. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @RyanJackson-ns3gd
      @RyanJackson-ns3gd 10 місяців тому

    • @Dipset415
      @Dipset415 10 місяців тому

      @@LOTM-bh7zxbasically 💯😭

  • @MrMoore-po5oe
    @MrMoore-po5oe 10 місяців тому +9

    This man Chris is crazy. First of all if they didn't need Kevin Durant they wouldn't have went to the Hamptons to recruit him. Also let's not forget that they lost the year they won all those games. Aand last people forget that when the Warriors won that first championship Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love was playing injured. We all saw what happened the next year when they were healthy and Kyrie took Steph to school. Last point is for those two championships Kevin Durant took over and dominated in the finals. He showed that he was the best player on the court in those championship series

    • @cynthiasellers5778
      @cynthiasellers5778 10 місяців тому

      When they lost Draymond got suspended and Bogut and Andre were hurt.

  • @weatherboy0149
    @weatherboy0149 10 місяців тому +3

    Why in these conversations do ppl not bring up how Bogut was out Games 5-7 to be replaced by Anderson Varejao? I get Steph didn’t play great all series but they were up 3-1. Then Draymond is suspended after having his tech upgraded AFTER THE GAME when LeBron petitioned to Silver. I don’t see how we just over look these circumstances to say “Oh GS had no chance at beating LeBron at all without KD.” Like they were close to doing it without KD

  • @Solomon11777
    @Solomon11777 9 місяців тому +1

    all the warriors had to do was replace harrison barnes bro averaged 9 points in the finals they didn't need kevin durant just somebody better than hb

  • @rulev3504
    @rulev3504 5 місяців тому

    Robs face when the 1st caller said Chris is off the mark is GOLDENNNNN 😂😂😂😂

  • @onidtubes
    @onidtubes 10 місяців тому +20

    You don't know that Chris. Cavs have figured out that warriors team without KD. Without KD, they probably wouldn't be a dynasty.

    • @cheerioss-9121
      @cheerioss-9121 10 місяців тому +1

      but they were adding a star that summer, regardless if it was KD or not

    • @ojoj5194
      @ojoj5194 10 місяців тому

      @@cheerioss-9121 WICH SUPERSTAR WOULD BEAT LEBRON 1VS1 IN THOSE FINALS OTHER THN KD?

    • @cheerioss-9121
      @cheerioss-9121 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ojoj5194 Anthony Davis would’ve made their defense so good it would’ve been scary. The PNR between Steph and AD would’ve been unstoppable. This was when AD was in his athletic prime and could shoot the 3 and had a nice midrange. Imagine him with Draymond in his ear on the defensive end… bro 😭😭
      Paul George basically KD but not naturally as gifted as a scorer but he’s a better defender, more athletic, and we seen what PG looked like with Russ a competent player and guy that could get him the ball. Imagine him in the Warriors system. Honestly if that would’ve happened we might’ve seen the Paul George before the freak injury.

    • @ojoj5194
      @ojoj5194 10 місяців тому

      @@cheerioss-9121 would and could. AD cant even beat sabonis none of them is better thn kd even today

    • @cheerioss-9121
      @cheerioss-9121 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ojoj5194 alright lil bro good talk

  • @toolegit7668
    @toolegit7668 10 місяців тому +3

    They saved it together. KD needed a team without a nutcase, Golden State needed a boost after that catastrophic Finals loss. Ultimately KD was the difference. Saying KD saved them is a more exaggerated way of saying KD was the difference

    • @coolp9347
      @coolp9347 10 місяців тому

      It’s not exaggerated. Those boys went 73-9 after talkin trash about wanting Cleveland fully healthy. Lost then went to KD to literally make it the best team ever.

  • @Sudosaiyajin
    @Sudosaiyajin 10 місяців тому +10

    Everyone knows KD saved their legacy

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому +6

      They saved his legacy KD has won nothing outside of Golden State

    • @MeezyfBaby
      @MeezyfBaby 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jakieresykes3644doesn’t change the Facts That Curry is only in the Goat PG discussion cuz of LD 😭

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому

      @@MeezyfBaby It changes the fact that KD has never proven he can’t win outside of Golden State and I hope you not a Lebron fan

    • @MeezyfBaby
      @MeezyfBaby 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jakieresykes3644 this has nothing to do with lebron or KD legacy it’s about what Isiah said 💀 He spoke facts

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому

      @@MeezyfBaby It does have to do with KD legacy as well are you that dumb

  • @kimbo8778
    @kimbo8778 10 місяців тому +2

    Chris is the only one on the show providing FACTS. The only reason why the Cavs won that series is because Draymond was suspended!! There no other way the even come back!! Isaiah is wrong!!!

  • @LeftoverTake
    @LeftoverTake 9 місяців тому +1

    In 2015 Lebron literally didn’t have a second option🤣 Curry has never beaten lebron straight up without KD. They didn’t win a finals again until years later after adding pieces to an established team with a stable culture. It’s astonishing how delusional media guys are. Lebron has beaten Curry every time he had a second option. Even in 2016 Kevin Love wasn’t healthy and the Warriors still lost. You guys just don’t want to give KD his props. Straight up ignorance from the old media

  • @AggravatedMan365
    @AggravatedMan365 10 місяців тому +7

    Hell the Warriors might have lost in 17 wcf if it weren't for Zaza taking out Kawhi

    • @nav9867
      @nav9867 10 місяців тому +1

      Yupppp

  • @stackntax1308
    @stackntax1308 10 місяців тому +23

    Yes GS won the championship in 2022 but they not winning against bron and kyrie if KD ain’t on that roster

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому +9

      You mean LeFraud aint winning if Kyrie aint on the roster.

    • @MaxPotentialGreatness
      @MaxPotentialGreatness 10 місяців тому +5

      @@greggibson33exactly

    • @j317
      @j317 10 місяців тому +8

      cap they was beating they ass by 20+ a game with kyrie in the roster the suspension and injury to their rim protection is the only reason the cavs barely won plus iggy lebrons primary defender got hurt stop acting like it was impossible for the warriors to beat them

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому +5

      @@MaxPotentialGreatness People forget Bron did his dumb hero ball routine in the last minutes of game 7 going four straight possessions and missed every shot. The only reason they won is becuz he FINALLY passed to Kyrie who hit the game winner.

    • @MaxPotentialGreatness
      @MaxPotentialGreatness 10 місяців тому +5

      @@greggibson33 you speak nothing but facts bro! I never seen so many narratives discredit one team smh

  • @popeyebogey209
    @popeyebogey209 10 місяців тому +9

    This argument is a mute point KD has Won NOTHING without GS Chris is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT 😂

  • @Jmann3240
    @Jmann3240 9 місяців тому +1

    Tired of the Draymond suspension talk…

  • @juliopena5122
    @juliopena5122 10 місяців тому +1

    People forget that after Draymond's suspension there was a negative domino affect on the Warriors. They wound up losing Iguadola and Bogert, who were two of the warriors best defenders to injuries. Which drastically changed the dynamic of that series.

  • @bernardfauntleroy8501
    @bernardfauntleroy8501 10 місяців тому +7

    Chris Broussard is totally wrong. The Warriors players all went to Kevin Durant's house to beg him to join them. Does that sound like a confident team?

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому +1

      Then how KD has not without them because they won without him twice

  • @anthonydixon5696
    @anthonydixon5696 10 місяців тому +10

    Golden state needed KD to beat LeBron this is one of Chris' dumbest takes ever

  • @bakulubaka8661
    @bakulubaka8661 10 місяців тому +5

    "no way no how " !

  • @JanPeterSpecht-jf9pg
    @JanPeterSpecht-jf9pg 10 місяців тому +2

    The thought of Durant not joining the Warriors and how Lebron could've won more titles is interesting for the GOAT debate. The warriors adding KD is clearly the best team of all time.

  • @ThoughtsPlural
    @ThoughtsPlural 10 місяців тому +2

    Chris Broussard is absolutely correct on this ☝🏾
    Peace and much respect to the Golden State Warriors

  • @TTJJCC
    @TTJJCC 10 місяців тому +8

    There is no way in hell, that Warriors team needed a top 2-4 player in the league in order for them to keep winning. That makes no sense whatsoever.

    • @gmurder13905
      @gmurder13905 10 місяців тому +1

      It doesn’t but their specifically talking about Those two championships

  • @1stnamebr406
    @1stnamebr406 10 місяців тому +35

    Draymond was back for game 6 and 7. Kyrie was hurt in 2015.

    • @RandyTheFittest
      @RandyTheFittest 10 місяців тому

      Niggas took him out they would’ve closed them out in 5 if draymond was there family they was cheating gsw in game 5 and 6

    • @raystroman4473
      @raystroman4473 10 місяців тому +3

      ⁠​⁠@@RandyTheFittesthe took himself out kicking everyone in the nuts picking up t’s in every series leading up to the finals

    • @stevenkraft8070
      @stevenkraft8070 10 місяців тому +8

      Yeah, but the Cavs LOST the only game of the 2015 series that Kyrie was in, so he was not the Cavs secret sauce. Remember that he got injured in OT in game one, and the Dubs went on to win that game.

    • @1stnamebr406
      @1stnamebr406 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@stevenkraft8070 You made my point.

    • @mcdiesel7505
      @mcdiesel7505 10 місяців тому +2

      ❤❤Love was hurt as well

  • @boogiefrmda4
    @boogiefrmda4 10 місяців тому +3

    I agree with Chris

  • @jahgideonakawestyute6371
    @jahgideonakawestyute6371 10 місяців тому +4

    Why they naver win against Toronto when kd injure?

    • @Famouszero22
      @Famouszero22 10 місяців тому +3

      Nobody wanna talk about that

    • @LatestDecember8907
      @LatestDecember8907 10 місяців тому

      All I wanna talk about is how no other team got 4 in eight yrs Steph curry got the same hardware as y’all goat how he the goat if Steph win again it’s over let’s talk about the cheating you fouled out a pg in the finales wen has that every happened touch fouls against gs while the cavs got to maul curry around the court just like at this moment the lakers have the largest ft disparity in the league y’all like watching dude play that’s the ugliest basketball I’ve every seen

    • @LatestDecember8907
      @LatestDecember8907 10 місяців тому

      Talk about what how klay was dominating and went down as well wtf are y’all talking about

  • @trackstarz
    @trackstarz 10 місяців тому +1

    Let’s not forget that Harrison Barnes missed like a million 3s in that series. Any upgrade at Small Forward and the Warriors would have won the following year. They just happened to get the best possible upgrade at Small Forward imaginable.

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 10 місяців тому +3

    Eddie House said it perfectly! 💯

  • @khristianpeel7165
    @khristianpeel7165 10 місяців тому +9

    I get these guys are analysts and all, but I don't see how you can feel comfortable acting like your opinion is more valid than a two-time NBA champion lol. I'll never understand.

    • @hk2737
      @hk2737 10 місяців тому +6

      NBA players got their own biases

    • @honorfirst7506
      @honorfirst7506 10 місяців тому

      Dumars/Isiah tied mvp votes in each ring season, & Dumars won 1st FMVP, Isiah the 2nd, but Dumars was on all league teams those ring seasons, while Isiah wasn’t.

    • @simpudney8191
      @simpudney8191 10 місяців тому +1

      Because their job is to be analysts, not playing basketball. Isaiah Thomas is quite unsuccessful off the court, so it makes complete sense for analysts to consider themselves as better at ANALYSING than a basketball player, who's job it is to play basketball, not analyse it

  • @curtisnero7388
    @curtisnero7388 10 місяців тому +1

    KD is the reason Bron don't have 6 rings those 2 rings KD wins cements the legacy

  • @darrencudjoe755
    @darrencudjoe755 10 місяців тому +1

    They Never Say Anything About Bron Not HAVING KYRIE OR K. LOVE 1ST GO AROUND

  • @BaithNa
    @BaithNa 10 місяців тому +4

    Did Magic save Kareem's legacy?
    Zeke needs to look at this in a historical context, all of the all time great players played with other all time great players to win their championships.

  • @michaelstevers6032
    @michaelstevers6032 10 місяців тому +4

    Without KD, the Cavs own that series.

  • @joyboy1720
    @joyboy1720 10 місяців тому +5

    The problem with this argument is everyone is assuming that if KD never went to GS then the warriors team would have just stayed the same all thos years. More realistically if they didnt get KD rhey would have eventually went and got someone else or added more quality pieces and still won a couple more rings.

    • @GalaxyFilmz
      @GalaxyFilmz 10 місяців тому +3

      People forget how awful Barnes was that series. Anyone that knew how to play basketball gets those shots and they win.

    • @brendanbloom3366
      @brendanbloom3366 10 місяців тому

      And you are assuming other teams don’t get better too. Kd and Russ with a bunch of guys who can’t shoot almost beat them. Give kd a team with shooters where they cant just load up on him and he’s killing them.

    • @brandonb.5304
      @brandonb.5304 10 місяців тому +1

      @@brendanbloom3366 And what team with the cap space to sign KD had a "bunch of shooters" to allow KD to play 1v1. Golden State was the only team that had the ability to provide him that at the time.

    • @brendanbloom3366
      @brendanbloom3366 10 місяців тому

      @@brandonb.5304 exactly why it made sense to go there. They still had to lose 2 starters and almost all their bench to do it. Kd could have done a 1 year deal in okc and by the next year a team could have created the cap space for kd. There was no point for a guy coming off a broken foot to do that tho. Okc could have not been cheap and kept harden in the first place.

  • @curtisnero7388
    @curtisnero7388 10 місяців тому +2

    They literally begged KD to join cause they knew they wasn't gonna beat Bron

  • @ramsesstafford4640
    @ramsesstafford4640 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm with Chris Broussard on this people just don't like what Kevin Durant did so they like to pile on him. Golden State had a good team no one knows if they would have won or not without kd in those two Finals people who say they wouldn't are just LeBron stans. When LeBron went to Miami we know for a fact that saved his legacy because he wasn't going to win nothing staying in Cleveland before Kyrie and Kevin came, so LeBron going to Miami saved his own legacy and D Wade's and Heat culture's legacy. Facts

  • @holidayarmadillo8653
    @holidayarmadillo8653 10 місяців тому +5

    Isiah said I hope you don’t take offense to this and then said something very offensive to dray face 😂

  • @Qboro
    @Qboro 10 місяців тому +17

    Zeek spot on

  • @longjump08
    @longjump08 10 місяців тому +6

    Draymond was spot on! Not only would golden state have lost the following year if they didn't get KD, but they were planning to get KD anyway regardless of the outcome of the 2016 finals. That entire season whenever they played OKC, Kerr, curry, klay, and draymond were all very chummy with KD to the point that there was an inkling of chemistry budding. And yes, the league was beginning to catch up with golden state's style of play. KD was the perfect fit.

    • @jakieresykes3644
      @jakieresykes3644 10 місяців тому +5

      KD has not proven he can win outside of Golden State

    • @bern717
      @bern717 10 місяців тому +7

      Pretty sure Steph and co. led to the Warriors to the Finals (sweeping the Blazers in the Conference Finals btw) while KD was injured. They did eventually lose against the Raptors but to say the league caught up with them is hyperbole

    • @lindaalexander7339
      @lindaalexander7339 10 місяців тому

      Draymond was kissing butt. He knew he ran KD off.

    • @richardturner1063
      @richardturner1063 10 місяців тому +1

      • Rob Parker, sad really sad. Kevin Durant was considered a joke when he joined a 73 win team with the 1st unanimous MVP. Giving the team that was 3 points away from being back to back champs, the last 3MVPs - 2014,15, 16. Anything to discredit Lebron. 'We ballers know what time it is' SMDH

    • @K124B
      @K124B 10 місяців тому

      @@richardturner1063 💯

  • @davidstandley8211
    @davidstandley8211 7 місяців тому +1

    So we're going to forget OkC blow a 3 - 1 lead to Golden State in the conference finals whose to say a OKC team the next year with Durant dosen't beat Golden State

  • @Rome_22
    @Rome_22 10 місяців тому +1

    The Goats of sports talk! Chris and Rob. ✌🏾

  • @yannickdias9813
    @yannickdias9813 10 місяців тому +6

    sorry but isaiah is spot on in this. Chris is tripping

    • @edwardcoward1062
      @edwardcoward1062 10 місяців тому +1

      They had already beaten the cavs lol

    • @richardturner1063
      @richardturner1063 10 місяців тому

      • Rob Parker, sad really sad. Kevin Durant was considered a joke when he joined a 73 win team with the 1st unanimous MVP. Giving the team that was 3 points away from being back to back champs, the last 3MVPs - 2014,15, 16. Anything to discredit Lebron. 'We ballers know what time it is' SMDH

    • @yannickdias9813
      @yannickdias9813 10 місяців тому

      @@edwardcoward1062 with a hurt kyrie and love lol , after that they ain’t beating the cavs in 17 without durant

    • @edwardcoward1062
      @edwardcoward1062 10 місяців тому

      @yannickdias9813 how many teams in history were both tops offensively and defensively and lost in the playoffs?
      The warriors were tops offensively and defensively 2014-2016. The warriors were going to win regardless bc what the cavs lost in offense they gained in defense. Kyrie played game 1 that year and the cavs lost that game right? They didn't start winning until he was out.
      But if you think differently, just provide those teams that have won when worse offensively and defensively. 😏