I'm glad they found the root of the mother's psychosis. It is always tragic when a mother has to be seperated from her child/children because of a sudden mental instability.
I was rushed to the ER just a few days ago and security wanted to separate me from my kids. They claim cuz I was having stroke symptoms they had to I didn't care I wanted my kids who are 7&13 the staff that tending to them were great it just wasn't explained to me that they have this service. I'm pushing for it to spread to every hospital
I take that medication too! I take it for my paranoia, my OCD and my PTSD. Apparently Olanzapine and Haldol are miracle drugs and they help lots of people.
I like how the stuff with the chrysalis can be seen as a metaphor for the mom she was trapped due to something going on with her body, but once she got treated her real self-emerged
"You said if I agreed to that test I'd be done," No, his exact words were "How about we do the scan and see what it tells us and then go from there? Does that seem like a plan?" He never said you could leave after the tests.
Even people who are NOT psychotic will remember things like this to their benefit. "You promised me" blah blah when you NEVER said that. Something that happens a lot in psych is "Please, I need to ask you some questions." After some routine questions the patient then says." I answered your questions now let me go you said if I answered your questions you'd let me go," Which you never said.
As soon as it was clear the mother was unstable, her consent should no longer have been required. You can DIE from complications from a broken bone, that kid could've gone septic.
@@meredithdurfy2337 The broken bone possibly turning fatal is more concerning then getting the consent of a clearly mentally unwell woman that already can't even give consent for herself.
Chicago, major medical hospital, plus ambulance ride, plus they are in th th ER and she needed surgery and post surgical care. . . . . . .little low don't you think? Head imagining with contrast as well as the original scans after the crash. . . . . . . . .two ER beds as the boy was injured and they couldn't get consent and Social Workers, even on call ones take forever to come and court orders are rarely given overnight baring a very serious emergency to wake a judge. . . . . . .I am thinking more in the $300,000+ range with the multiple consults from other specialties involved as well as surgery + ER time and all.
Unfortunately with minors - it gets complicated. It's not as simple as a 2 doctor consent override like it was 10 to 15 years ago. They have to prove she can't give informed consent or is endangering her son by having it documented with time stamps before they continue to treat her son, unless he needs an emergency procedure.
Ah, but they do! Walk into almost any full service hospital ER. The hospital I am in now for a falling issue, the maternity ward is stuffed as well as the mental health floor. Along with a sophisticated security screening so contraband can't get in. It is a huge issue. We are also very close to the 500,000 mark population. When I moved here, it was 129K
True. Honestly I wish doctors could just override parental consent if their choice is medicly not beneficial to the child’s wellbeing. Doctors know medicine. Parents do not.
@@ThelordHayden34 Doctors also do not have the same personal interest in a child that most (but not all) parents have. Do we really want an arrogant doctor who thinks he or she is God to override the concern of a parent? Or force a treatment on a minor that also just so happens to put a ton of money in the physician's pocket? This is rife for abuse. Furthermore, doctors will often disagree among themselves to what the proper course of action is even though both may be equally qualified. I have seen some shouting matches in this matter, let me assure you. We see this in the current debate over transitioning children and some nations (it does not seem to be the case in the US, yet) will take children away from parents who refuse to allow transitioning. This is despite evidence that mental illness can be misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria or transitioning can be incorrectly diagnosed as the therapy for said mental issues. Some physicians have even terrified parents that their child WILL commit suicide if they don't transition, even if the patient does not show any suicidal ideation. Fortunately, there are ways to seek protection of minors if their parents do not have the best interest of their children at heart. Those tend to be third parties though who do not have a vested interest in either side but are instead heavily scrutinized and regulated.
@@ThelordHayden34they don't know medication as well as you think they do at least now days. Trust me I work with them all the time. It is scary when you know the truth.
@@sharonvidal848- you don’t admonish people because they get tumors. That IS out of everyone’s control - not everything about health is cut and dry, especially where the autoimmune system is concerned.
@@LisaRice-d5uTrue, and thankfully they didn’t demonize her. She’s just a human having a serious human complication, and we as fellow humans must have compassion to resolve to situation as quickly as possible. Yea she put her son in danger, but Heaven only knows what was happening inside her head.
@@samanthag1922i could be wrong, but i think it's because they tend to get personally invested in their cases (in Natalie's case at least, which sometimes clouded her judgement) and Will just sometimes does things recklessly or not by the book or whatever. idk it's been a while since i watched the show in full haha
Collections agencies can also be hired to collect on other debts. Like medical bills or over due rent, legal fees that never got paid. Or she could be using it as a catch-all phrase for “people who track down other people because they want something from them”
It's sad that there's people in the world that are like this, and trying to get them the help they need is difficult. They honestly DON'T realize just how much of a danger they are to themselves and everyone around them.
He’s 8 yo. so it requires parental consent. If it was life-threatening, medical staff can treat minors if there wasn’t time to locate a parent. It’s protecting and promoting the healing of a broken bone. That’s medical treatment. If a dog was receiving a cast for a broken leg that is veterinary treatment. Taking ibuprofen for a headache is a medical treatment.
If they were living in the car, am hoping this is not set in winter. I was in Chicago last month (December) and it was freezing (literally). We put a 750 ml bottle of water outside one night and it froze solid. They would die living in a car in Chicago in winter
Not necessarily. We have had our weather in the minus's here, and youd find that in my experience its always warmer in a car. The body heat and the condensation etc jsut ends up adding heat
I'm not saying it's super safe to live in a car in winter. But it only has to be 0C in order for a water bottle to freeze overnight. That's totally doable in a car. You could probably handle it pretty well in a tent.
The inflammation from a urinary tract infection can cause temporary psychosis. They really should check for any and all known inflammation markers. Seriously stupid not to. So much distress can be averted if doctors bothered to do that plus a nutrients profile to check for deficiencies and excess/toxicities.
Akams razor(sp) the simplest answer is almost always true. Or if you prefer walks like a duck swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's usually a duck. Person acting crazy thinking crazy and being crazy is probably crazy that's the thinking of Dr's in this case, she wasn't, but 9 times out of 10, they end up being crazy. It creates an unintentional bias
@@HAWKEYE21343 according to some psych nurses I've interacted with a B12 shots usually clears it up. So, not crazy, vitamin deficiency leading to inflammation
Wonder why he asked about a grandfather? My friend say it is not always this easy to be a non-parent and get a child treated. She has custody of her great-niece and a couple of days after getting custody they had to rush her to hospital and it was an issue to get things done after stabilizing her, cause my friend was not the mother and not even the grandmother.
Schizophrenia is very hard to diagnose and certainly wouldn't be diagnosed this quickly. Also you would need to know what trauma caused it. Generally-speaking, doctors try to rule out all physiological diagnoses before they jump to the mental diagnoses. There have been so many who were misdiagnosed and found out later that it was just a physiological condition. Once you put a person on a hold, the snowball effect can happen whereby a person loses a lot in their life. Far better to rule out the physiological conditions first and then start talking the mental.
A friend discovered a life long migraine problem wasnt a tumor or something bad, he was allergic to cats, he may not have been at first cudda been something else but cats became a new enemy, hed say but i always had headaches b4 cats, and nothing changed after. Dude was heart broken but his medicine was to give his cats away, move and left all his furniture.
all children deserve parents, not all parents deserve parents, I'm not a parent but if you have a mental instability then there's something clearly wrong. But I'm glad they found out the problem was a tumor and there's a happy ending.
I have a dual diagnosis of bipolar depression 2 as well as borderline personality disorder and this seems like a chaotic dramatization to me. I haven’t suffered from psychosis in 3 months … but even then, it wasn’t this severe.
“Id say she’s doing alright” and yet hasnt even done a basic mental state exam to see if she’s oriented to time or place lol. A doctor wouldnt be confused by a patient like this. Especially if they were in a car accident and potentially had a head injury. They’d immediately do a neuro/mental state exam, in fact the paramedics would have picked this up before she even arrived. Even if it only started in hospital they’d be checking for head trauma not asking her to repeat herself in a different way or just saying where she is
@@vancedagod306probably from being in a car accident themselves. When i was 17 someone totaled my mom's car while we were bringing my cousin home for the summer. He smashed through the back of us going 50 in a 35 with multiple sudden stop and turn signs. He hit us hard enough we smashed and bounced off the minivan in front of us, it caused a chain reaction resulting in 6 cars hit, 3 totaled. Our airbags did not deploy. Paramedics and doctors did several tests to make sure everyone was cognitive and had no brain trauma or bleeds. First thing paramedics did was shine a light directly in my eyeballs and aks me name, birth date, current date, who was president, and where i was. When i got to the hospital they did the same tests again and took me to mri, xray, and ct. Unfortunately the accident slipped discs in my lower back and between my shoulder blades so i have permanent back pain, but im lucky i survived.
Sad most doctors arent this thorough. I had psychosis induced from too much water...yes its real. They literally treated me like a circus freak..never went back.
Reality is nothing like this!!! That child would have a cast the minute they heard living out of the car and he would be in the hands of dfs while the mother would be doped up just long enough to get him out of the hospital then she would be released as healthy and on her own with the high possibly of being labeled a hypochondriac (no money in treating her like a human being). The child would be told for a time that she had to stay a few days, then when he was older if he survived that long that she had died.
A kid has a broken are and there focus on the mom the woman is clearly unstable you don't need to be a doctor to know that i can't imagine what that poor boy was going through
It's not that simple. She would have to be proven unstable before they could ignore the consent issue. And they had no way of knowing whether it was a head injury or a tomber.
Anyone could say that anyone is obviously crazy. Just having certain beliefs or ideas doesn’t classify you as crazy. They would have to show that she is a danger to herself or others. The reason she was put in 72 hour hold was because she showed that she was a danger to both herself and her son.
@crazypyp5871 well I believe there are certain cases where a doctor shouldn't have to have the patients permission to do something, especially if that patient is acting stupid or doing something that obviously will get them hurt or killed if the doctor does nothing.
Nice piece of feel good fiction. In reality she would've been kicked to the curb because her insurance company refused to cover her and her son's illness 😅
But no one knows what that one is and everyone know what Haldol is so it sounds much cooler on TV. . . . . . . .No one with real xp in mental health inpatient could scream at the TV "Oh, she is getting the Booty Juice!!!". Olanzapine also sounds more professional and medical than "Get the Zyprexa instead".
Haldol is an antipsychotic which is what you would give to someone in that condition. Versed is a benzodiazapine and very strong hypnotic. It could possibly make things worse.
0:35, wow, that's an interesting chrysalis, whats that gonna turn into... End of video: is that a monarch? Why was the chrysalis that shade of green though? *Goes back to look* oh...just a bad prop paint job. If the butterfly was popping out THAT soon, it should have been WAY darker.
Someone in the middle of a psychotic episode isn't able to think rationally. A rational person would let a doctor set their son's broken arm. Someone having a mental episode is going to think they're shapeshifting aliens who want to steal his bones to build a jewelry box for their queen. See the difference?
To everyone in the comments whining about them trying to get consent from the mother: SO, first off, children cannot legally consent to medical treatment (outside of stabilization measures which are standard and for which doctors are legally protected). The only way children CAN consent is under something like a medical or parental emancipation, which are rarely granted and typically only to those who marry under the age of 18. Second: in order to treat the kid without the doctors and hospital being in legal trouble, they must get the consent of a parent or legally appointed guardian. This would, obviously, be the fastest way to get him treated, hence why they tried it first. If this is not possible due to the parent being indisposed either physically or mentally, they must request a court order, effectively making the child a ward of the state and appointing a guardian to the child. The guardian can then make medical decisions and give consent. All of this is done because young children do NOT have the mental capacity to understand the gravity of all situations. Moreover. *children do not possess the legal ability to demand recourse in the event something is done without consent, because they cannot GIVE consent.* That is an incredibly fragile and vulnerable position to BE in. A child is not capable of handling those things and that is why consent of a parent or guardian is important - because children are also not equipped to handle the fallout of medical decisions and in that case the responsibility lies directly with their parents, the people who will be directly handling that fallout for them. Look, I know yall are pissed about the arm staying broken that long. But for one, the kid is already in a hospital. Fucking amazing place for you to have a medical emergency, 10/10 highly recommend doing that at a hospital. Second off, if it actually DID become so urgent it could kill the kid, and they hadn’t gotten consent from mom in time for that, they would again be covered by Good Samaritan laws. The kid wasn’t in imminent danger - he was in discomfort, sure, but I doubt highly that they weren’t managing his pain. He was still in the hospital for treatment and hadn’t been discharged. They are treating his pain. Maybe relax and realize those laws do an incredibly important thing by protecting incredibly vulnerable children from having their inability to understand as well as an adult taken advantage of. Is it frustrating in this instance? Sure! Is it necessary to protect children? Also yes!
Let me tell you a not so fun fact; in Idaho, in order to 'combat wokeness', lawmakers have made it so that school teachers are nurses can't help sick or injured children without verbal consent of at least one parent/guardian. They are no longer allowed to even give kids band aids or simple medicine without verbal parental consent. From what I heard, nurses can no longer even examine a child that's claiming to be sick without verbal parental consent. And apparently text messages don't count, they have to give permission over the phone. Do you have any idea what that means? It means that if the nurses can't get a hold of at least one parent, then they have to let a child vomit or writhe in pain and can't do anything to help them. If a kids got a massive migraine and the parents (for whatever reason) refuse treatment, then the nurse has no choice but to let them suffer. The worst part is, particularly for girls having their periods, they are now being denied access to midol and other pain medication for their cramps because those also require parental consent. And for girls going through their first period but haven't been told anything because their parents are the conservatives who think 'they don't need to know until it happens'. Without parental consent, nurses can't even give them pads. And even if they can, nurses are now no longer allowed to even explain to these scared girls, that again have no idea what's happening, about this. All they can say is 'you will have to ask your parents'. Above all else, as many have pointed out, this is a perfect mechanism for abusive parents to not get caught. If they are beating their children and their kids are in pain at school, all they have to do is say no and nurses can't examine the kids. Thus hiding the abuse from the staff, who in turn would notify the police. Any thoughts on this?
I'm glad they found the root of the mother's psychosis. It is always tragic when a mother has to be seperated from her child/children because of a sudden mental instability.
I was rushed to the ER just a few days ago and security wanted to separate me from my kids. They claim cuz I was having stroke symptoms they had to I didn't care I wanted my kids who are 7&13 the staff that tending to them were great it just wasn't explained to me that they have this service. I'm pushing for it to spread to every hospital
Sad when any parent is separated from their children bc of mental instability….mothers just tend to get far more sympathy from the public.
Olanzapine mentioned! I have atypical bipolar with cationic symptoms. It literally saved my life
That is really good to hear :3
We are happy you are here too.
I take that medication too! I take it for my paranoia, my OCD and my PTSD. Apparently Olanzapine and Haldol are miracle drugs and they help lots of people.
Well aren't you special.
That's really good to hear.❤❤❤
I like how the stuff with the chrysalis can be seen as a metaphor for the mom
she was trapped due to something going on with her body, but once she got treated her real self-emerged
"You said if I agreed to that test I'd be done,"
No, his exact words were "How about we do the scan and see what it tells us and then go from there? Does that seem like a plan?" He never said you could leave after the tests.
She’s far too deluded to remember anything about their conversation.
The character is literally mid psychosis, whether or not he said exactly those words or not is completely irrelevant.
Even people who are NOT psychotic will remember things like this to their benefit. "You promised me" blah blah when you NEVER said that. Something that happens a lot in psych is "Please, I need to ask you some questions." After some routine questions the patient then says." I answered your questions now let me go you said if I answered your questions you'd let me go," Which you never said.
You realize she’s in psychosis, right?
As soon as it was clear the mother was unstable, her consent should no longer have been required. You can DIE from complications from a broken bone, that kid could've gone septic.
She’s still his mother and he can’t give consent.
@@meredithdurfy2337Actually they can override her when she is not mentally stable. They have lawyers in the hospitals or on call for this reason.
@@meredithdurfy2337 The broken bone possibly turning fatal is more concerning then getting the consent of a clearly mentally unwell woman that already can't even give consent for herself.
They'd have to get some kind of court order to declare she's not able to consent so it might have been faster to try and get consent first
I survived from being septic back in my toddler years. It was a nightmare to go through.
Doctor : "Im glad you are now both fine. Now that will be 127000$"
Chicago, major medical hospital, plus ambulance ride, plus they are in th th ER and she needed surgery and post surgical care. . . . . . .little low don't you think? Head imagining with contrast as well as the original scans after the crash. . . . . . . . .two ER beds as the boy was injured and they couldn't get consent and Social Workers, even on call ones take forever to come and court orders are rarely given overnight baring a very serious emergency to wake a judge. . . . . . .I am thinking more in the $300,000+ range with the multiple consults from other specialties involved as well as surgery + ER time and all.
Which health care insurance are you with? ....oh. Sorry.
She’s poor enough she’s almost certainly on Medicaid
😮@@blackdandelion5549
@@justsad-1392*crying*
This woman is clearly delusional, they can’t possibly require her permission when she’s obviously incapable of logical reasoning.
Unfortunately with minors - it gets complicated. It's not as simple as a 2 doctor consent override like it was 10 to 15 years ago. They have to prove she can't give informed consent or is endangering her son by having it documented with time stamps before they continue to treat her son, unless he needs an emergency procedure.
Ah, but they do! Walk into almost any full service hospital ER. The hospital I am in now for a falling issue, the maternity ward is stuffed as well as the mental health floor. Along with a sophisticated security screening so contraband can't get in. It is a huge issue. We are also very close to the 500,000 mark population. When I moved here, it was 129K
True. Honestly I wish doctors could just override parental consent if their choice is medicly not beneficial to the child’s wellbeing.
Doctors know medicine. Parents do not.
@@ThelordHayden34 Doctors also do not have the same personal interest in a child that most (but not all) parents have. Do we really want an arrogant doctor who thinks he or she is God to override the concern of a parent? Or force a treatment on a minor that also just so happens to put a ton of money in the physician's pocket? This is rife for abuse.
Furthermore, doctors will often disagree among themselves to what the proper course of action is even though both may be equally qualified. I have seen some shouting matches in this matter, let me assure you.
We see this in the current debate over transitioning children and some nations (it does not seem to be the case in the US, yet) will take children away from parents who refuse to allow transitioning. This is despite evidence that mental illness can be misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria or transitioning can be incorrectly diagnosed as the therapy for said mental issues. Some physicians have even terrified parents that their child WILL commit suicide if they don't transition, even if the patient does not show any suicidal ideation.
Fortunately, there are ways to seek protection of minors if their parents do not have the best interest of their children at heart. Those tend to be third parties though who do not have a vested interest in either side but are instead heavily scrutinized and regulated.
@@ThelordHayden34they don't know medication as well as you think they do at least now days. Trust me I work with them all the time. It is scary when you know the truth.
The actress playing the mother did a pretty good jobb here.
For real!
Poor boy😢 poor woman😢
Yeah she must have had some sort of tumor or something that made her crash because sound like a good mom
@@sharonvidal848- you don’t admonish people because they get tumors. That IS out of everyone’s control - not everything about health is cut and dry, especially where the autoimmune system is concerned.
The caterpillar 😔
@@LisaRice-d5uTrue, and thankfully they didn’t demonize her. She’s just a human having a serious human complication, and we as fellow humans must have compassion to resolve to situation as quickly as possible. Yea she put her son in danger, but Heaven only knows what was happening inside her head.
dont ever let will or natalie be the only physicians on your case
Or that hideous Dr. Choi
i don’t watch this show outside of youtube clips when i’m bored lol. what’s the tea?
you bet! bad doctors as a couple makes sense
@@samanthag1922i could be wrong, but i think it's because they tend to get personally invested in their cases (in Natalie's case at least, which sometimes clouded her judgement) and Will just sometimes does things recklessly or not by the book or whatever. idk it's been a while since i watched the show in full haha
Uh, there are no air holes in that specimen cup.
No needs, just made one or two holes on the cap
I believe there’s some cheese cloth over the top
@@brokenquill9277there was on the glass, not on the plastic
Collection agency? Souls? They're on the run from the IRS!
That’s why Joker fears them over Batman.
More likely a loan shark or quick cash company
@Juls673
The 'gov' IS the loanshark for it's globalist bankster owners.
Just popped up while I was watching it i screamed lol 😂
Collections agencies can also be hired to collect on other debts. Like medical bills or over due rent, legal fees that never got paid. Or she could be using it as a catch-all phrase for “people who track down other people because they want something from them”
watching this video and all i can think is
"did they remember to punch holes for hair in the specimen jar lid?" 😂
Edit: air not hair
.....or even AIR!! Sorry, I'm not picky, but I thought it was funny!! 😂❤
@alliecollin1748 i didn't even see the misspelling whoops! 🤣🤣
SAME...and I'm pretty sure they did not. That is one special butterfly, surviving like that.
why did you make an edit to correct yourself instead of correcting the mistake
@tanavpandher9176 because I felt like it
It's sad that there's people in the world that are like this, and trying to get them the help they need is difficult. They honestly DON'T realize just how much of a danger they are to themselves and everyone around them.
How is putting a cast considered a treatment that requires consent?
Maybe hes not old enough to have a cast put on him without parents say? *shrugs*
He’s 8 yo. so it requires parental consent. If it was life-threatening, medical staff can treat minors if there wasn’t time to locate a parent. It’s protecting and promoting the healing of a broken bone. That’s medical treatment. If a dog was receiving a cast for a broken leg that is veterinary treatment. Taking ibuprofen for a headache is a medical treatment.
If it’s treatment, consent is needed
How do you figure ANY treatment doesn't require consent? At my job, we require consent from both parents for someone to *speak* to any child.
He is a minor
dr charles is the only sane doctor there stg will never thinks about the whole picture
The actress is amazing!
She did a good job
@@bethdalley2186 she really filled well the role with her performance
So the kid
Poor kid
If they were living in the car, am hoping this is not set in winter. I was in Chicago last month (December) and it was freezing (literally). We put a 750 ml bottle of water outside one night and it froze solid.
They would die living in a car in Chicago in winter
Not necessarily. We have had our weather in the minus's here, and youd find that in my experience its always warmer in a car. The body heat and the condensation etc jsut ends up adding heat
@@jodia2125 It would probably be marginally warmer but not entirely safe
I'm not saying it's super safe to live in a car in winter. But it only has to be 0C in order for a water bottle to freeze overnight. That's totally doable in a car. You could probably handle it pretty well in a tent.
@ I left a bottle outside when it was -2 or so, it did not full freeze at all. The night I was talking of was - 12.
Who would have thought that a small tumor could cause a bipolar episode. Glad those doctors found it and removed it.
The inflammation from a urinary tract infection can cause temporary psychosis.
They really should check for any and all known inflammation markers.
Seriously stupid not to.
So much distress can be averted if doctors bothered to do that plus a nutrients profile to check for deficiencies and excess/toxicities.
Akams razor(sp) the simplest answer is almost always true. Or if you prefer walks like a duck swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's usually a duck. Person acting crazy thinking crazy and being crazy is probably crazy that's the thinking of Dr's in this case, she wasn't, but 9 times out of 10, they end up being crazy. It creates an unintentional bias
That usually happens in older women, stuff can happen anytime!
@@margaretburr7975 it does not "usually happen in older women" and I really wish healthcare would stop peddling that one
@@HAWKEYE21343 according to some psych nurses I've interacted with a B12 shots usually clears it up. So, not crazy, vitamin deficiency leading to inflammation
Lmao medical advice in the comments, criticizing a scripted show. Some of yall need more socialization fr
Also very fake… CPS would have been called immediately and the child would have gotten treatment.
Lmao its a drama show
Yea it's a drama series, like grays anatomy
😂😂 it's a tv show. Duh! 😂
Thank you for a complete arc story... without leaving any of us hanging as to the conclusion... even if all the fluff was edited out. :-)
Wonder why he asked about a grandfather? My friend say it is not always this easy to be a non-parent and get a child treated. She has custody of her great-niece and a couple of days after getting custody they had to rush her to hospital and it was an issue to get things done after stabilizing her, cause my friend was not the mother and not even the grandmother.
She was not write in the head? It’s like her brain is giving her high alert and worried systems.
*right
Brain tumor
Poor thing😢😢
That'll be $200 for the specimen cup for the Chrysalis.
Maybe in that case, doctors should be able to override consent.
She needs help very bad
I love how her psychosis disappeared when she was diagnosed! 😅
She may have paranoid schizophrenia, or trauma induced psychosis?
Schizophrenia is very hard to diagnose and certainly wouldn't be diagnosed this quickly. Also you would need to know what trauma caused it. Generally-speaking, doctors try to rule out all physiological diagnoses before they jump to the mental diagnoses. There have been so many who were misdiagnosed and found out later that it was just a physiological condition. Once you put a person on a hold, the snowball effect can happen whereby a person loses a lot in their life. Far better to rule out the physiological conditions first and then start talking the mental.
She had a tumor
A friend discovered a life long migraine problem wasnt a tumor or something bad, he was allergic to cats, he may not have been at first cudda been something else but cats became a new enemy, hed say but i always had headaches b4 cats, and nothing changed after. Dude was heart broken but his medicine was to give his cats away, move and left all his furniture.
all children deserve parents, not all parents deserve parents, I'm not a parent but if you have a mental instability then there's something clearly wrong. But I'm glad they found out the problem was a tumor and there's a happy ending.
dr Halstead, the epitome of "we will refuse to give this character any growth or development and there's nothing you can do about it"
I have a dual diagnosis of bipolar depression 2 as well as borderline personality disorder and this seems like a chaotic dramatization to me. I haven’t suffered from psychosis in 3 months … but even then, it wasn’t this severe.
She couldn't consent to anything in her mental state.
“Id say she’s doing alright” and yet hasnt even done a basic mental state exam to see if she’s oriented to time or place lol.
A doctor wouldnt be confused by a patient like this. Especially if they were in a car accident and potentially had a head injury. They’d immediately do a neuro/mental state exam, in fact the paramedics would have picked this up before she even arrived.
Even if it only started in hospital they’d be checking for head trauma not asking her to repeat herself in a different way or just saying where she is
and you know this how, nerd?
@@vancedagod306probably from being in a car accident themselves. When i was 17 someone totaled my mom's car while we were bringing my cousin home for the summer. He smashed through the back of us going 50 in a 35 with multiple sudden stop and turn signs. He hit us hard enough we smashed and bounced off the minivan in front of us, it caused a chain reaction resulting in 6 cars hit, 3 totaled. Our airbags did not deploy. Paramedics and doctors did several tests to make sure everyone was cognitive and had no brain trauma or bleeds. First thing paramedics did was shine a light directly in my eyeballs and aks me name, birth date, current date, who was president, and where i was. When i got to the hospital they did the same tests again and took me to mri, xray, and ct. Unfortunately the accident slipped discs in my lower back and between my shoulder blades so i have permanent back pain, but im lucky i survived.
@@vancedagod306Have you ever been to a doctors office where they run through the basic forgettable questions at the beginning EVERY TIME?
Sad most doctors arent this thorough. I had psychosis induced from too much water...yes its real. They literally treated me like a circus freak..never went back.
I watched this on telly it's very good I'm at the end but I actually forgot it 2 years ago
Just curious how many hispitals/ doctors would go above and beyond the initial test results to actually solve the problem.
A research hospital, maybe.
Is that little boy the actor from “A Quiet Place”? The one who played Beau?
Yes it is. He is also well known for playing Nate Barton in the mcu. I thought he looked familiar lol
if anyones wondering if in the description it isn't showing its gonna be season 8 episode 2
Reality is nothing like this!!! That child would have a cast the minute they heard living out of the car and he would be in the hands of dfs while the mother would be doped up just long enough to get him out of the hospital then she would be released as healthy and on her own with the high possibly of being labeled a hypochondriac (no money in treating her like a human being). The child would be told for a time that she had to stay a few days, then when he was older if he survived that long that she had died.
she should still loose her parental rights, medical condition or not she had no right doing any of that.
A kid has a broken are and there focus on the mom the woman is clearly unstable you don't need to be a doctor to know that i can't imagine what that poor boy was going through
*Arm
She had a tumor
*sigh and groan* if ANYONE who hates mean mothers say aye
She's obviously crazy so they shouldn't need her permission.
It's not that simple. She would have to be proven unstable before they could ignore the consent issue. And they had no way of knowing whether it was a head injury or a tomber.
Anyone could say that anyone is obviously crazy. Just having certain beliefs or ideas doesn’t classify you as crazy.
They would have to show that she is a danger to herself or others. The reason she was put in 72 hour hold was because she showed that she was a danger to both herself and her son.
@crazypyp5871 well I believe there are certain cases where a doctor shouldn't have to have the patients permission to do something, especially if that patient is acting stupid or doing something that obviously will get them hurt or killed if the doctor does nothing.
@@freedomwriter1995 Yeah, in a case where it's that severe, I think, THINK, not 100% positive, but I think you can get a court otder.
@Nope12173 too bad by the time the judge grants the order the damage will already have been done
Nice piece of feel good fiction. In reality she would've been kicked to the curb because her insurance company refused to cover her and her son's illness 😅
No need for haldol. Versed is superior
But no one knows what that one is and everyone know what Haldol is so it sounds much cooler on TV. . . . . . . .No one with real xp in mental health inpatient could scream at the TV "Oh, she is getting the Booty Juice!!!". Olanzapine also sounds more professional and medical than "Get the Zyprexa instead".
@blackdandelion5549 Lorazepam, Midazolam or Diazepam should be first line. Antipsychotics screw you up permanently. Benzodiazepines don't.
Haldol is an antipsychotic which is what you would give to someone in that condition. Versed is a benzodiazapine and very strong hypnotic. It could possibly make things worse.
When I hear when she said I need to speak with you’re manager oh Karen
when youre going through a psychotic episode, you're bound to say anything off the wall.
0:35, wow, that's an interesting chrysalis, whats that gonna turn into...
End of video: is that a monarch? Why was the chrysalis that shade of green though? *Goes back to look* oh...just a bad prop paint job. If the butterfly was popping out THAT soon, it should have been WAY darker.
I just watched this episode myself :D
What episode is this
Lady leave the doctor to look after your son okay ❤
Someone in the middle of a psychotic episode isn't able to think rationally. A rational person would let a doctor set their son's broken arm. Someone having a mental episode is going to think they're shapeshifting aliens who want to steal his bones to build a jewelry box for their queen. See the difference?
@@feverspellAbsolutely agree. And why mental health is SO important.
To everyone in the comments whining about them trying to get consent from the mother:
SO, first off, children cannot legally consent to medical treatment (outside of stabilization measures which are standard and for which doctors are legally protected). The only way children CAN consent is under something like a medical or parental emancipation, which are rarely granted and typically only to those who marry under the age of 18.
Second: in order to treat the kid without the doctors and hospital being in legal trouble, they must get the consent of a parent or legally appointed guardian. This would, obviously, be the fastest way to get him treated, hence why they tried it first. If this is not possible due to the parent being indisposed either physically or mentally, they must request a court order, effectively making the child a ward of the state and appointing a guardian to the child. The guardian can then make medical decisions and give consent.
All of this is done because young children do NOT have the mental capacity to understand the gravity of all situations. Moreover. *children do not possess the legal ability to demand recourse in the event something is done without consent, because they cannot GIVE consent.*
That is an incredibly fragile and vulnerable position to BE in. A child is not capable of handling those things and that is why consent of a parent or guardian is important - because children are also not equipped to handle the fallout of medical decisions and in that case the responsibility lies directly with their parents, the people who will be directly handling that fallout for them.
Look, I know yall are pissed about the arm staying broken that long. But for one, the kid is already in a hospital. Fucking amazing place for you to have a medical emergency, 10/10 highly recommend doing that at a hospital. Second off, if it actually DID become so urgent it could kill the kid, and they hadn’t gotten consent from mom in time for that, they would again be covered by Good Samaritan laws. The kid wasn’t in imminent danger - he was in discomfort, sure, but I doubt highly that they weren’t managing his pain. He was still in the hospital for treatment and hadn’t been discharged. They are treating his pain.
Maybe relax and realize those laws do an incredibly important thing by protecting incredibly vulnerable children from having their inability to understand as well as an adult taken advantage of. Is it frustrating in this instance? Sure! Is it necessary to protect children? Also yes!
Let me tell you a not so fun fact; in Idaho, in order to 'combat wokeness', lawmakers have made it so that school teachers are nurses can't help sick or injured children without verbal consent of at least one parent/guardian. They are no longer allowed to even give kids band aids or simple medicine without verbal parental consent. From what I heard, nurses can no longer even examine a child that's claiming to be sick without verbal parental consent. And apparently text messages don't count, they have to give permission over the phone.
Do you have any idea what that means? It means that if the nurses can't get a hold of at least one parent, then they have to let a child vomit or writhe in pain and can't do anything to help them. If a kids got a massive migraine and the parents (for whatever reason) refuse treatment, then the nurse has no choice but to let them suffer.
The worst part is, particularly for girls having their periods, they are now being denied access to midol and other pain medication for their cramps because those also require parental consent. And for girls going through their first period but haven't been told anything because their parents are the conservatives who think 'they don't need to know until it happens'. Without parental consent, nurses can't even give them pads. And even if they can, nurses are now no longer allowed to even explain to these scared girls, that again have no idea what's happening, about this. All they can say is 'you will have to ask your parents'.
Above all else, as many have pointed out, this is a perfect mechanism for abusive parents to not get caught. If they are beating their children and their kids are in pain at school, all they have to do is say no and nurses can't examine the kids. Thus hiding the abuse from the staff, who in turn would notify the police.
Any thoughts on this?
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Hadol never helped me it makes me worse
Where's her shaved head and bandages???
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When disturbed show interferes with J’s welfare. Saw your show last week. 🤮
5MINS GANGG
I thought the title meant welfare payment 🤪
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@chiarab34a41 thank you! I'm not alone on that haaha
What kind of tumor was it? Did they remove it? Prognosis?
Go I hate Dr curry
This stinks
hoowee im early
Dr Charles is annoying
hes just doing his job
I can't even imagine how annoying you must be then
If people didn't pay him money he wouldnt be doing his job genius @@rosel7650
I love doctor Charles he’s my favourite
Not annoying. Plays the character well.
Poor boy😢 poor woman😢