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Huawei P20 Pro Camera Reivew after 30 days 3000 photos and videos
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2018
- After using the P20 Pro for a month and took over 3000 photos and videos, what do I think about the world first triple camera setup on the Huawei P20 Pro? Should you believe the hype?
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hey guys, a few of you guys have gave me some feedback about the audio in my previous videos (Thanks!) So I have made some changes to my mic setup. What do you think about the sound quality in this video? I know it's definitely not perfect has I've clipped the audio in a few places. But hopefully it is better than my previous videos? Please let me know what you think!
Photo By Richard Excellent and very thorough review! Thank you for taking the time to review this smartphone after weeks of use and thousands of photos taken. This is really the only way to know what use in real life is like. I’ve been on the fence with the P20 Pro, but after watching this I think I’ll order from the UK and import to the US. Also your audio was good but not great, volume is a bit low. I had to wear headphones to hear your audio clearly.
Thank you for watching the video Jeff. Yes I do normally love to spend at least two weeks on a product before I work on the review and longer if possible :). And thanks for the feedback re audio. It's one of the thing I am still learning and haven't quite get it right yet. I've just recorded another video (p20 pro) but I screwed up the audio again.. oh well...
Hi Richard, was just about to make a comment on AUDIO - when I saw this. IMHO normalizing the audio levels will help to some extent. On my comp I have to frequently readjust the loudness.
BTW the review is excellent - I am just about to order it. Thanks
Hi vjurco, thank you for the feedback!! Will see how to improve the audio for my future videos :)
This is my first time seeing one of your videos. But it's great! I saw your comment about audio, seems great. I love that you are unbiased and share both pros and cons. And so in-depth! And examples! Great video!
Thank you Bryan! Glad to hear you like this video. I'm still quite new to youtube so there are so many things I'm still learning and experimenting :)
A very detailed and awesome review with great photos. Huawei really did a fantastic job on the cameras, those hardware upgrades are very particle too. Now hopefully we will see other company catch up and focus even on the cameras!
Thabks Leica dad! I am really amazed by what Huawei has done this time and I am so impressed now I am thinking of using the p20 pro as my main camera for my Japan trip later this year and leave all my big digital cameras home. (Will still bring a film camera) Yeah the great thing about competition is one will push other to catch up or do a big jump.
I have to remember you that samsung said that the camera will be next level shit on the S9 but it actually sucks hard haha
i have the p20 Pro as well and it is by far the best camera on any smartphone out there. I just love the p20 Pro
Thank you for this review. Very in depth and thorough. I really loved the images you captured as well.
Thank you very much The RaRa85!!
Photo By Richard you're welcome.
Best p20 pro camera review. Thanks!
Thank you green tea :)
Your videos are very good, like that you are using so much examples. And greetings from Germany.
Hi Killian, I am still learning and trying to improve :) but thank you for your positive feedback!
Great review, brilliant job from Huawei, the low light quality looks really, really good.
Only things I think they missed were SD Card support (to store all the high res fotos / videos) and image stabilisation of 4K Video.
Thank you Dave! Yes with the huge DNG file, SD Card support would be great. It is a phone that beg you to take nice high resolution photos!
Great review and photos! Seriously, you are the only camera and tech reviewer in New Zealand that worths following and your reviews are better than a lot of 100k+ channels. I've read Geekzone's P20 Pro review earlier this week. What a joke. that guy obviously doesn't know much about camera or photography.
Thanks Jamie and thank you for your kind comment! I definitely spend a lot of time and thoughts when doing each of my review. But everybody's review and background is a bit different so can't really compare.
Are you see your photos in pc , that important , j see one in my computer it is very bad , my old canon ixus 800is is very very better
The photos from the P20 Pro? Yes i've checked them on my computer, you can go to my website as well. I think they look pretty good even when viewed at full screen. www.photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/huawei-p20-pro-review/
Very detailed video! Hi can you do a video about pro mode next time? 😊
Hi there I have actually made one video that talks about the Huawei camera app including pro mode. Search Huawei on my channel :)
Great review Richard
Thank you Paul!
Very detailed Camera Review, exactly what i have been looking for!
Thank you!
David H glad you like the review. Thank you for watching David
Hi. Richard. Can you manually open the aperture to shoot at night rather than using the night mode for night time videos...? It does have 1.6 f correct?
Hi S.E.A Roaming Dude, the physical aperture is actually fixed at f/1.6 (just like almost any smartphone cameras, apart from the latest Samsung which has a 2 step aperture). When you are shooting under low light, the camera will bump up the ISO (sensitivity) and lower the shutter speed to increase the brightness of the output photo.
Thank you for the OUTSTANDING review Richard--I really enjoyed it! Boy that 51,000 ISO sure is amazing! Quite a leap from back in the day souping Tri-X in 2 bath Diafine @EI 3200! And that "Night Mode" [NOT having to haul a tripod] is SICK!
Huawei P20 Pro = My Next Cameraphone = 2 YEARS ahead of Apple.
N_ R, Thanks for watching this video :)
Thank you for the very useful video.
Many users in several forums are reporting that upgrading the p20 pro to EMUI 10 causes a major degradation of the camera performance. For instance wrong focusing and loss of definition. Have you ever done any testing on that?
I have not got a chance to test that yet sorry
@@TheRealRichardWong
Could it be that you have a P20 still available? If yes, would it still be possible to perdorm some critical testing please before and after upgrade? Fortunately, Huawei hisuite still allows to rollback to older versions of EMUI. I am sure that your deep knowledge of photography would finally clarify this issue.
If not, what critical tests would be recommended to compare camera performance and between different software versions?
liked your review, which is actually an review unlike most other videos in youtube. keep making them.
Thank you dh verma! I can't really tell jokes so I try to do what I do best, reviews from my real world experience, some technical discussions and sample photos :)
can u make one video about the night time videography of p20 pro. in both 1080p and 4k, and since 4k has no EIS, may be use gimbal for 4k.
check out my last vlog if you haven't watch it already. It was shot on the P20 Pro in 1080P mode. ua-cam.com/video/RXH9i-p4mDo/v-deo.html I will see if I can do a P20 Pro videography video but I do have a few other reviews scheduled for the next two months so if I can do it it will be a little while away. Also need to see if I can borrow a gimbal as I only just sold my smartphone gimbal recently. Thanks Richard
i am very satisfied with my p20 cam but yeah, i am sad that the monochrome mode is now on the “more” instead of the main menu
I think it would be really great if you can customise the main menu so you can out whatever you like to use most there
Mate 20 pro user here, I recommend turning off the Ai, it gives unreliable results, the sharpening is agressive and in low light the noise removal almost makes a cartoonish look. The night mode is amazing, it gets so much detail and light. Lightroom doesn't have profile for the cameras yet, so no vignette/distortion corrections. If you take long exposures of close objects you can see the laser beam
Some nice suggestions Don!!
@@TheRealRichardWong Thank you, you made a very interesting and video.
Thorough and knowledgeable review. Thanks!
Thank you for watching the review!
best review
Thank you very much Helabi!
Thank you for a great and detailed review. If there is any news of an update that would add stabilization to the 4k video recording, please let us know! Thanks again
Hi Tariq, sure will do. But I have never heard of Huawei promised that or said that is even possible with the P20/Pro so my guess is it will never happen with the P20/Pro.
Very good test of camera. good review
Thank you Cafe World!!
Excellent detailed review
Thank you S Saini!
Please try the P20 Pro and try to capture the milky way, i,'m really curious about the quality of the picture
Dascalita Neculai, I would LOVE to try that as well. But I don't think I'm travelling to any rural area/country anytime in the near future. But if I do have a chance, I will definitely give it a try and share my results with you all
Do I have a Raw file from the monochrome sensor ?
Do you think is better to achieve a raw file from the pro mode and then convert it in lightroom into a bw photo ?
No you don't get raw from monochrome mode. Re RAW vs monochrome jpg, if you want to edit your photo, I would say raw is better as it has higher bit count and also you have more flexibility in colour to mono conversion. If you don't want to do much edit or just very simple curve edit, then monochrome would be good as it allows quicker workflow
@@TheRealRichardWong thanks for the reply. unfortunately I do not understand what sense the monochromatic sensor has if the quality is not the same as the raw :/
Quality is the Monochrome JPG is good and very sharp as it takes advantage of the monochrome sensor. But since there is no RAW output, the RAW from colour sensor gives you more headroom IF you want to do some editing yourself. So for people who doesn't want to edit, the monochrome sensor output is great for them
And the monochrome sensor is also used to create the depth map for portrait mode and aperture mode as well.
@@TheRealRichardWong so if I'm only interested in the monochrome sensor, do you think that the P20 against the p20pro would be a good and cheapest alternative?
Great review. In the last year I own the Huawei mate 10 Pro, HTC u11 Plus, pixel 2, Sony Xperia xz-2 and I currently just got my Huawei P20 Pro. I truly love your detailed videos and hopefully when the mate 20 Pro comes out you will do a detailed review of that phone. I truly hope Huawei phones become more recognized in the United States. I'm tying of hearing how they are spying on us but people have to realize that Google, Alexa, Sony, and Samsung are all doing the same thing. now that Huawei surpassed apple as the second biggest phone maker in the world United States will take the more seriously now.
Hey John, thanks for the comment! I am aiming to have the mate 20 pro review done before the end of the month but it may take longer as there are so many things I want to cover. So we will see. :)
Thank you for this great review. I am using Huawei P20 Pro for last 2 months. And its pretty impressive in camera and specially in night mode. Can you please post a video about light painting and light graffiti from p20 pro.!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Hello there, I actually have a video about the light painting mode, check my Huawei playlist and you can find it! Might do a light graffiti one later :) thanks for the feedback and watching the video
Another question, Wong...
How many stops can you recovering(shadows) on post processing with p20 pro !?
How do you compare p20 pro with rx100, beside resolution ?!
Canal do OTA probably can push 2-3 stops before image quality drops too much. P20 pro vs rx100, I would say rx100 image quality is still better because of it's 1inch sensor. But on the other hand, p20 pro can do better low light image and it's a camera you will carry all the time
How was the photo for aperture mode in low light? Can aperture mode capture with hybrid zoom? Pls answer me thanks
The low light aperture mode photo is not bad. But it's definitely not as magical as resutls from night mode.
Aperture mode can by shot at between 1x to 3x zoom
do you think p20 pro has sense in 2020?
Great review! My daughter won't swap my note 8 for her p20 pro. Should i just steal it instead? :D
Why are you complaining? Life is not fair but at least you have a very smart and clever daughter ;)
Photo By Richard i was joking :) i think the video capture on the note 8 is outstanding. I took some unbelievable footage on it using an osmo 2.
Haha I was joking too. The video from note 8 might actually be better than the P20 Pro. But of course photos from p20 pro would be a lot better ;)
Photo By Richard totally! :)
HTC was the first to put dual camera on a phone. #htconem8
hi Mohd, yes.But it's the HTC EVO 3D that was the first dual camera phone AFAIK, not the M8.
Richard Wong
Ok bro
in setting we should keep lens in 40m or 10m..i have a doubt plz clear it
Abhishek Gupta sorry can you please explain your question a bit more and I will try to answer it :)
Great details review as we are same photographer lover.
Thank you very much jat dan!
Great night shots! I wonder if you’ve tried taking photos of stars?
Thanks! No, I haven't got chance to do proper one i.e. in a very dark place yet... would love to try that one day!
for anyone interested Huawei have confirmed there will be NO update to stabilize 4k video, just for people thinking that it will, I knew it wouldn't because the old processor can not handle it
Would you tell me that the normal len (wide angle len), is it 28mm?? Thanks for your great photos and review!
yes almost, it is 27mm :) And thanks for watching Yung
Thanks!
How many minutes can the p20 pro shoot videos at 1080p before heating up, anyone knows??
I've shot some long 4k videos and hasn't even overheat once. But I don't really live in a hot place.
great pics!!
Thank you very much :)
A perfect review. Thanks. I have the Huawei P10 mate pro. Do you have any suggestions on how to protect the small lenses from scratches?
Thank you very much Oliver! The lens is made of pretty hard material so normally it's not easy to scratch it. But to protect it I would say get a slightly thicker phone case so the camera stays slightly more inside if that make sense.
Photo By Richard It would be great if the phone or phone case had a little sliding door. I use the Huawei casing and cover the lens with a piece of paper held down with masking tape. the smooth surface allows me to reuse the tape a couple of times. Btw, i use the monochrome mode for high contrast situations and i am very happy with the results :-)
yes that might work! Maybe you could design one ;) Oh yes the monochrome mode is great!! However one thing I forgot to mention in this review is, I would still like to see some picture profile for the monochrome mode so I can choose higher / mid / lower contrast output to suit the photo I'm capturing. Huawei, if you are reading this, please add a photo profile to the monochrome as well PLEASEEEEE :)
Great vedio as usual see your vedio and be a pro thanks a lot
Thanks Adil! Have fun shooting!
@@TheRealRichardWong I Will thanks
Who is the rap artist that we see at 14:28 min ? Nice review :-)
Thanks David! And that's JessB. You can see a bit more of her in my latest vlog
Who is the rapper in the concert in min 14:30?
That's JessB
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks! and very nice review. I'm getting one for sure
I have a mate 10 (not mate 10 pro), and learned from huawei yesterday that it saves jpg files at 90% quality by default, and it is not adjustable to increase or decease that quality. I don't know why huawei would care if we would want to save it in higher quality even though the file size would be bigger, particularly since when you shoot in RAW in pro mode you're saving a file which is about 10 times bigger than a jpg file. I would think that that is my business if I want my pictures to take up more memory. Is jpg image saving quality adjustable in the P20 pro? Also, does the P20 pro give you the option of a having a cropping guide visible on the screen when you are composing a photo, or a live composing histogram? None of these are options on mate 10. If the P20 pro doesn't have these options either, everyone please contact huawei like I have done and suggest that they include these features in their next update.
Hi Barry, thank you for the comment! Having the option to adjust JPG quality would be great. But to me, what I want more is the setting for adjusting the strength of noise reduction, sharpening as they have a much bigger impact in the output photo than the JPG quality settings itself. Live histogram would be nice but most cameras' (i'm talking about DSLRs/mirrorless) live histogram is base on JPG which is flawed and not accurate. Would be good to have this features in the factory camera app but personally I would rather see other improvements first. For example, having a picture profile in the Monochrome mode. Or adjusting the strength of the AI adjustments as mentioned in my review. But yes definitely give feedback to Huawei if you want certain features implemented.
Richard, thanks so much for your quick reply. More importantly, thanks for the important tidbit of education regarding what is more important than a jpg quality setting. I would still like to see the option of a jpg quality setting, though, since I have noticed that the image size at 90% is frequently much smaller than photos I have taken with my previous phone, a moto x pure edition (2015), which has a similar mp camera. A smaller image size to begin with has got to affect the quality of the edited photo in editing, doesn't it, since the image size shrinks dramatically when applying some edits, which means a printed photo will look crappy beyond a certain size? Or am I wrong in what I just said? Thanks so much for your expertise. Nice video, by the way.
Hi Barry. In theory you are absolutely right. With the same compression algorithm, smaller file means more information got thrown away and result is drop in image quality. However there is a diminishing return when you increase the JPG compression setting beyond a certain point. Human eyes usually cannot easily see any difference between a medium high and very high quality JPG. I did a test, I resize one of the photo I shot to 10MP and save out two versions of JPG. One is around 9mb and one is 2mb. And then I compare them side by side, even when examining at 200% zoom, I could barely see any difference at all.
You would normally see difference only if you repeatedly saving the same file. After a large number of resave (10+) then you will start to see the drop in image quality in the smaller file but normally we won't resave the same photos that many times (and if you plan to, save it to a loseless format such as TIF temporarily until you finish all your editing)
Again, thanks. I will cease worrying. I truly appreciate your taking the time to experiment to check out the effect of image size on picture quality. Your expertise is most helpful.. Barry
should i compare the camera between p20 and p20 pro?
sure :)
Richard Wong so which model you will recommend? As i heard P20 pro gets better photo usually in pro mode, but normally i didnt use to handle those setting in pro mode while photo shooting.
P20 Pro. The camera on the P20 is good, but it's not revolutionary like the triple camera setup on the P20 Pro. Yes you can get best photo quality if you shoot in Pro mode and output as RAW then post process yourself. However, with the master AI, even shoot in normal "photo" or other creative modes you can still get pretty decent results. Maybe the JPGs are a bit oversharpned if you look at photos at 100% zoom, but it's not really noticable when viewing it normally like on social media or even full screen on your computer
thanks for the reply and sharing.
I can't believe all those great features the P20 Pro has with the camera, star trails and so on, I have the note 8 and looking now at the note 8 camera features just suck, why can't Samsung add those features??? Do they have any apps that can do that guess not. Truth be told I've tried out the P20 Pro and loved it but what stops me from selling my note 8 is the pen feature. BTW note 9 will be coming out shortly and the camera features will still suck.
Great review - thanks, how do enable 10 X zoom? - cheers - Peter
hi peter, when you are in "Photo" mode, just do a pinch to zoom
Many thanks Richard - your videos have been very helpful - I've Subscribed : -)
Thanks Peter! Please feel free to leave comments/suggestions on what you want to learn more so I can create some more videos in the future!
Thanks Richard - my P20 Pro (which I've only had for 10 days) came with a Micro Card cartridge bigger enough for 2 Micro Cards, but one was blocked off - can all P20's be used as Dual Sim, or did they release different versions? - thanks - Peter.
Hi Peter, I believe the single sim and dual sim versions of P20 Pros have slightly different hardware/firmware so unfortunately not some can only support single SIM.
excellent
Omair Zeeshan thank you Omair!
Is there way to get google camera port for the P20 pro ...just got my p20 pro ..the rear cameras are great but the front camera beautifies even when set to zero . Please let me know an alternative that's like Google camera port.
I haven't really try the front camera much myself but the few photos I took looks OK. I will put a selfie sample in my blog review coming up very soon. Have you tried shoot in non portrait mode? Otherwise you could always just get any of 3rd party camera app?
Monchito Pro TV none of the already available gcam mods work for the P20 pro .
Have you received the new firmware 107? Not sure if that makes any difference
Photo By Richard CLT-AL00 8.1.0 131(C675)
Ah ok, your is the dual SIM version? Sorry not sure about the firmware then. I'm using the CTL-L09
Is it worth buying??
If you really enjoy taking photos with your phone, I say the p20 pro is the best camera in the market right now
did u purchase the phone or was it review unit?
Review unit
Great review! I just found your channel. What does and does not apply from all the things you have said to the regular P20? I'm buying it, so I'm interested if the Night Mode and sensor size is the same on it as the P20 Pro?
Thanks!
hi Mole! The main difference between P20 Pro and regular P20 is the P20 Pro has the new triple camera setup with 40MP RGB camera and 3x optical zoom, while the P20 has the similar camera setup as the Mate 10 - i.e. dual camera and therefore no large 40MP sensor and 3x optical zoom. Camera app is almost identical apart from lack of optical zoom or 40MP RAW output. Most (or all?) of the master AI features, Pro mode..etc are the same on both phones.
Richard Wong Thanks! And by the way the 5x zoom you mentioned in the video is already a thing. Oppo just confirmed their next flagship is going to be able to do it, lol
haha ok let's see who'll reach 999x zoom first! btw, I would highly recommend getting the P20 Pro if the price difference between the two is around 20% or less.
Richard Wong It's not. I'm actually getting the P20 for €350 basically brand new. What do you think, a good deal?
Mole yes good deal!
Interesting review. I am not a fan of EMUI or the fact that it only has a 1080p screen. So I would like to now what you think about the Google Pixel in comparison to this phone.
Yes not everyone likes the EMUI. I have shown the phone to quite a few people who don't like the EMUI as well and the general feedback I got is the latest EMUI 8.1 has actually fixed quite a few things they don't like with the previous EMUI. So maybe give it a try at a shop next time and see if you feel the same?
Re Pixel, I assume you mean Pixel2? The Pixel2 and p20 pro are really quite different even they both are Android phones. The Pixel2 has a much simpler design. From the stock Android, to single camera to the design of the phone. The p20 pro is the completed opposite, with fancy body design and colour scheme, complicated triple camera setup..etc. I haven't use a Pixel2 enough to give comments but I feel between the two, it really come down to which approach/design you like more.
Photo By Richard I agree that the pixel 2 and the p20 Pro are two different phones. The only advantage I see the p20 pro has over the pixel is the design. I'm hoping the pixel 3 will fix this though.
Pixel has a terrible screen, higher resolution but the quality is actually worse than the 1080P panel the P20 Pro has.
JZ VR Really? Even with the software update they pushed out months ago? I kind of find it hard to believe that an OLED panel can be worse than a 1080p screen on the Huawei
P20 pro is also OLED screen
it is normal that the camera not smooth when u moving ??
Do you mean when recording video? If so is it in 4k or HD?
Richard Wong I mean in photo mode
CHean Thong doesn't sound normal. Got a video that you can show me what does it look like exactly?
Richard Wong it more like when I am moving 360 the graphic on the phone are not that smooth is that normal?
So you are taking photo in normal photo mode. When composing the photo, you quickly move the camera around and the screen is not updated smoothly. Is that what you mean?
If price dropped to 40,000 rupees, I am ready to buy
what price is it now ?
@@TheRealRichardWong it is 65000 in India
I have a leica X2 camera which is only 16mp but im having this huawei P20 pro cellphone next week. crossing my finger that leica on huawei pro 20 delivers more than i expected . If you're curious how leica in 16 m pixel looks instagram.com/mikecudilla/
so how do you find the P20 Pro? do you like it? Nice Instagram feed btw!
Richard Wong. Yes the triple camera rocks, but still a bit tricky on composition that feeling as if you're looking through lens.
great to hear that. Yes handling and not having a viewfinder are some of the things smartphones can't really match a proper camera.
shame the 960fps is faked
Hi what do you mean by that?
the phones processor is not capable of letting it actually shoot 960fps look at all the slow mo examples most of them have severy warping and juddering because it is not capturing full 960fps its capturing a lot less and the phone is filling in the gaps (missing fps) to make it look like proper 960fps but it does not work. Its a bit like if I shoot a video in 30fps and use twixtor in after affects to slow that footage down it will have loads of warping and juddering because it is not enough fps to make it smooth slow motion.
The processor being not powerful enough is exactly the reason why it can not shoot 4k at 60fps and why the 1080p 60fps does not have stabilisation because the processor can not do it, there will never be a update for the phone to change this as it is a hardware limitation
Hi Markolla12, while I definitely agree the 960fps footage has quite a bit of artifact, I'm not convinced the fps is fake. I've done some quick side by side comparison with Samsung S9' shooting really fast moving scene and the results look very similar and the actual FPS captured definitely look the same to me.
I will try shoot some more test footage to double check as it's easy to see the difference between interpolated frames (no matter it's frame blending, optical flow or any tricks) when you playback frame by frame.
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