The Epidemic Nobody Sees Coming: Sexless Men, Population Collapse & Fertility Crisis | Shanna Swan
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
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On Today's Episode:
Until now, you probably haven’t associated infertility with the collapse of our global population. From the U.S. to India, to South Korea, Canada, the U.K. and more, fertility rates are reaching critical levels. Humans now meet 3 criterias for being an endangered species.
If that doesn’t have you totally rattled yet, our guest today, Dr. Shanna Swan, epidemiologist best known for research she published in 2017 which set off alarms and caught the attention of major media and scholars around the world, joins Tom to highlight the many factors contributing to a 50% drop in fertility rates, testosterone, and reproductive function.
Shanna’s work quickly became the world’s 26th most referenced scientific paper, and her latest book, Count Down: How Our Modern World Is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Imperiling the Future of the Human Race, delivers a less than optimistic view of guaranteed economic population collapse.
The information Dr. Shanna shares brings up major concerns for the future of humanity as a species and for our current health.
Chemicals leading to our extinction have some government incentivizing people to have sex and procreate.
Women’s education and rights to contraception, and urbanization are contributing to women’s lack of interest in birthing 5 and 6 kids.
Endocrine disrupting chemicals are nearly unavoidable as they’re in what you eat, drink and breathe
The under masculinization of males is an actual problem impacting their lifespan
Lifestyle factors are part of this conversation and include obesity, stress, binge drinking, and poor metabolic health
Shanna gives a masterclass on phthalates, a chemical found in plastics that make them softer, helps products be more absorbable, holds scent and color better in everyday products we’re accustomed to using, and she shares a simple poem to help you identify safer recycled plastic options. Looking at the number on your plastic bottles, commit this to memory…
“5,4,1 and 2 all the rest are bad for you.”
Resources Mentioned:
Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline by Darrell Bricker & John Ibbitson
Consumer Guide to Safer Products: www.ewg.org/co...
World bank fertility data: data.worldbank...
Check out Dr. Shanna Swan’s books, Count Down: www.amazon.com...
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“If a couple is infertile, where the man is infertile and his sperm count is low, his health is impacted.”
“Men with low sperm count and men who could not conceive a pregnancy will die younger, they have a shorter life expectancy.”
“The phthalate syndrome in humans is an incomplete masculinization of the male genital tract.”
“This is not an equal opportunity problem, [...] people who are stressed, disadvantaged, socially challenged in various ways are going to be hit much more.”
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The Real crime against humanity is Overpopulation due to selfish breeding caused Rampant Inflation which caused everyone who is not a Multi-Millionaire to be forced to live a lower quality of life and also everyone including the Billionaires are poisioned due to earth being poisioned due to overpopulation due to selfish breeding. The people who grew up in the 1950s had the best quality of life because the planet wasn't so grossly overpopulated then.
Selfish breeding caused rampant inflation. Overpopulation due to selfish breeding is the root-cause of the worlds worst problems. Breeders don't give a crap that their selfish spawning causes mass shootings, rampant inflation, pandemics, climate change, noise pollution, wars, and less resources for the masses and so higher costs for the masses which caused Millions to become homeless. Basic Economics. Breeders either are not smart enough to understand the law of Supply vs Demand or they don't give a crap about anybody except themselves.
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Let your GUESTS TALK, and stop constantly interrupting them to make sure you get your point of view in 🙄
Well thanks to #MeToo this will never be solved. you see, once you have a social movement to reclassify all precursor activities that relate to dating, relationship formation and marriage as "sexual harassment", "sexual assault" and "rape" you should be surprised no one is fcking anymore. Add in the negative impacts of dating apps, modern feminism, instagram culture and absurd standards held by modern women and it all starts to make sense. In the dating app reality you better have six pack abs, make a six figure salary and be a minimum of 6ft six feet tall lol. Otherwise forget about it modern women are disgusted by real average men. Who wants to be bothered with all that BS? Men have options and it doesn't take alot to make us happy, we can do without.
Sperm count is less relevant than the death grip of economic pressure forcing young people to reject a future family. Rents are too high, house prices out of reach, wages too low, future looks bleak. Intentional celibacy; rejecting dating;
Plus justice disadvantaging men (That btw get scared)
@@Dolcesangue Yes in regard to access to the child,.
You summed it up perfectly. The obscenely high cost of living leaves not enough money left to financially afford to raise children now.
@@LavenderFlush And it is horrifying that the same class of politician who have enriched themselves through this growing inequality are the same people that are now complaining about the drop in fertility rates.
This started in 1971, when the government went full FIAT. You are being constantly robbed and the proof is the cost of housing.
My great grandmother had 7 kids, grandmother 3 kids, mother 2 kids, me at 38 yrs old, 1 kid. That’s a sharp decline.
My grandparents each set of grandparents had 10 kids
My parents had 4 kids
My siblings and I each only have one and seem done
Similar, but my parents had 1 and I have no clue
Grand parents had 4, parents had 7, I have 9
My grandparents each had 5+ siblings, my parents had 3 kids, I had 2.
I'm 38 I won't be having kids it's too expensive.
As a millennial, I can hardly afford myself. What would make me think I can all of a sudden be able to take care of another life? Two income houses have difficulty making ends meet.
As for fertility... well, look at what we put in our bodies and all the chemicals companies just dump to save money. The only people who can fix this is people at the top, but that would require them to not take bribes.
Society/the economy makes basic living so unaffordable why WOULDN’T birth rates be declining. 😂 Another reason why capitalism is trash.
Buddy, I feel you, trust me, a lot of people do, but here's the counter argument
How do poor people have more kids? How did your ancestors made it? Are you sure you aren't better of than your ancestors?
(Really, even if you are worried about not being able to supply what others deem you have to, If you're morally driven and a good guy that can make it, you CAN make it)
@@Pedro_Alcantara Problem is women can destroy all of your efforts via the legal system, instantly. They are also rewarded to do so.
@@shin-ishikiri-no Well...they are TOLD that they will be rewarded...whether they are or not is a moot point.
@@nickbarber2080 They are rewarded, but the reward depends on the man she tricked into marriage and the size of his wallet, or the length of his list of assets.
Married 1973. Four children. My oldest is 50. Only one of my children, have children. The cost of raising families is outrageous. When my children started coming along, I worked and my wife cared for them and the home. As the years progressed we became more and more unable to cope on one income. She started work. We didn’t become better off, we just managed to scrape through. Corporate and government greed are the problems.
This economical problem is not new either. I was a kid in the 40's. My uncle had a wife and 8 children. He had a high paying job, but many times the family did not have any food.
...and yet no one wanted to bring in Bernie. Instead we got another rich sociopath
I wonder if we’ve reached a malthusian bottleneck. Output of “stuff” from factories doesn’t meet population demand anymore.
@@ArnoldFreeman-n9g- Factory output never did meet demand. My grandparents had 8 kids and yet lived completely without government handouts on what they could scrape from the land. They had 16 (mostly) healthy grandchildren.
Neoliberalism did this. It was SO worth it, though, huh?
Having kids, is one thing, supporting them, is a whole different ballgame.
Spoken like a man 🙄
I don't see how how anyone can raise a child without making a decent salary! And not all of us are fortunate enough to have well-paying jobs that are sustainable. Or any jobs, for that matter! (Presently unemployed yours truly!)
You don't need alot of money to raise one child. Parents spoil their children with all the latest and greatest of everything, and it doing so they are teaching them the worst lesson in life...and that is intimacy is attached to materialism. The most valuable things are free. Time, bike rides, hiking, swimming are all free.
@@Radiatoron88
You have kids and you figure out how to pay for things.
The lack of money makes it harder but it is still very possible.
The real question is it fair to the children?
My kids are just reaching adulthood.
They are all doing pretty well.
They all have some anxiety about their future, but that is pretty normal for most people.
@@mariabeckwith3336 The costs of healthcare, food, clothing, and post-secondary education are "considerable," to put it mildly, so if you don't have a good job or other income that pays decently, good luck with trying to raise children. I was lucky in that my father was an executive who made a decent--though not anywhere near "rich"--salary, and so he was able to support his family. But even so, money "issues" always furrowed his brow, and it often seemed to me like money was something that was very often a serious matter. I agree with you though that bike rides and time were mostly free--well, you'd have to buy a bike, of course. But as a "boomer," yes, I know what you're talking about. Just being free from school in summer vacation was a great joy. Time to walk, run, shoot baskets, throw a baseball back and forth, ride your bike, climb a tree, hang out with your friends, and so on--all free and enjoyable pastimes. No "screens" beyond TV and movie theaters at that time, so no people walking around transfixed like zombies by their "smartphones," or endlessly playing video games. I'm very grateful that I grew up in a place and time when kids had more of a life outdoors, not just a "screen-focused" existence! Oh, let's not forget one more great joy that didn't cost much money--books! I was lucky to grow up in a home where there were always lots of books around, so I became curious about them, and eventually became an avid reader like the rest of my family. The whole "Wizard of Oz" series was such fun when I was young!
Every time a woman has a child she becomes dependent. She is either dependent on someone else for income as she cares for her child or she is dependent on someone to care for her child while she works for income. Biologically the difference between the genders is that women carry and, give birth to children. If we go by nature, women feed babies and children her milk, which means she is close to them in the early years. Economically we make having children mean women are economically at a disadvantage because we do not value women by paying them what this production is truly worth. I am a grandmother and I see my daughter and her peers that have children struggle under the load of expectation to be in the workforce and to have children too. This expectation on our women is unrealistic. I hear young women not wanting children at all. We are where we are as a society because we have valued the wrong things and we need to address this issue and economically value women that carry, birth, and nurture children. Our future depends on it . Many women struggle when they leave their babies to go to work. Women want to be valued.The profit before people has a big part in the rest
Excellent!
And obviously being a women is a lot easier in many aspects than being a man. Albeit you lack the drive that men do as well as the touch of excellence.
theres no reason for people to be living under financial stress during times when AI can replace lots of jobs out there. children are important for the future. people should try to have children as early as possible since your likely to be in better health as compared to an older age. as you age, the body builds up toxins and bacteria and it affects the offsprings as well.
its fine if men and women dont attach or like each other but the least we need is children being created at a young age to keep humanity continuing. if reincarnation is real, i would rather be reincarnated as a human than some other animal which will die in a painful way.
@@jameslave98 you don't even know how to spell correctly much less how to run your life. It's not "albeit" its I'll bet. YEAH YOU DON'T NEED KIDS STAY INFERTILE
@@jameslave98 Wow. You are so ignorant.
As mentioned, the issue of fertility is not only a chemical problem, but is more so a cultural problem: Less men want to raise families in today's society, less women want to have children in favor of independence
Exactly that's how me and my ex are we are still friend's but we don't want kids or to get married I am definently having neither. Because of our shitty family members why bother? It's heartbreaking but oh well. We both feel like we would be shitty parents to.
More men want men more women want women everyone else is confused about gender so humanity is over we will not survive the next 100 years. Thanks liberals
Yeah nobody seems to talk about that- It’s just one more thing that men and women are SUPPOSED to do… People can see the world and how it is…Maybe we’re not supposed to keep going as a species as is.
Women are no longer trading being a brood mare with decades of abuse from cheating/downlow/violent XY's.
There. Fixed it for you.
@@MaggiebenjeeEXACTLY 🤭
This society doesn’t deserve children. It doesn’t value the risks, sacrifices, and struggles of motherhood or the needs of children. Women and children deserve better than these crumbles our society offers. We spend our lives trying to figure out how to survive instead of being able to enjoy life.
Very well said..
So true.
Thats so true because people dont want to share their time and wealth. They just want to seek pleasure and fun.
Exactly, I was thinking the same thing, lets stop artificially sustaining the society by making “babies” that can grow up and work but in the detriment of their happiness, all this while some rich bitch eats caviar on lake Como.
Yep. That’s unfortunately what will happen in this corrupt, depraved society
As a millennial with a degree in demographics and economics, I can tell you without a doubt my generation is having less kids due to high cost of living. Our debt based, consumption driven, ponzi banking, flat currency scam etc.. is ruining society. Women being forced to work in order to keep their family from living on the streets has created negative effects on society at large. We could start with lowering taxes for those who are or planing on restocking the population of our species. It's hard to believe that governments haven't started to help in some way. Must be to busy gathering power with this 15 year wealth transfer we are experiencing.
Conservatives don't care. They need more cannon fodder to keep their outdated ponzi schemes going.
Based!
Your generation is just more lazy and more selfish. Anything else is just looking to justify their choice of not having kids.
The Great Reset wants steep depopulation and eventual total compliance into transhumanism. It’s in their white papers.
Thats half of it, the toxic chemical environment is also wreaking havoc on peoples reproductive system and ALL systems. When ADD started really taking off, people said "Wallll, we're just counting it more" but I was hearing from teachers of 'everyday shit' that we NEVER saw, even from weird kids. But for the 'conscious' part of it, I think you'd have to be INSANE to look at the world today and want to bring more people into it.
We had two children, about thirty years ago and it almost killed us... now, those two kids are childless in a world of intense contest.
I have always said that. People don't think about The implications. Of the world that they are raising their children into.
@@derek4412 you are crazy !. Having 3 kids
Why did it almost kill you?
@@monhousebienesraices9033 good question, because my first child was born two months after we were married, and less than a year from the time we met ...our families abandoned us, and even abused us. We persevered, and today we're married for forty two years, managed to change countries to raise, educate and keep safe our son and daughter❤
@@michaelrodriguez3329 Having a family and kids is the new counter culture!
Rather than breed more humans as a slave workforce for the economy, remake the economy and rethink way of life. Focus on quality of life, not quantity and ceaseless production, which is unsustainable.
Hey you stupid economists, you say the economy will shrink? Well I'm a chick who has studied zero economics in her life and have a suggestion for you: figure out a way that we can have our cake and eat it too! I'll be waiting. You stupid economists who keep assuming we need growth and that productive humans produce wealth.
Exactly, who are we upholding this economy for? Who does it serve? We need to rethink it altogether
Agree.
Great point! You think outside of the box 📦.
Facts.
without family support and infrastructure women don't want babies ... society has forgotten it takes a village to bring up a child!
Our economy has been rigged to make it so that things are unaffordable for a single person to be stably employed and make enough money to live. A few yars ago it was estimated that at 2100 the human population would peak at 2100 at 11 bilion people. However the fertility rate has lowered since then and now the years is 2086 at 10:68 billion or something.
I'm certain that the fertility rate will drop yet again and we will eventually find the population peaking in 2050 at 9.5 billion or something like that.
Human population is expected to drop from that point going forward.
I suspect that we see that decline going from a baby boom into a baby bust where at some point there just won't be enough kids and within a 20 year span the population gets cut by a third or something like that because everyone working and not able to afford to have kids at all. It's either that or all of the progress we made literally disappears, no more internet, no more medicine, no antibitotics or vaccines. All of the technology we have is either hoarded by the extremely wealthy or more than likely we have a level of dependant technology like smart phones and the extremely wealthy run an oligarchy like old times and the people have nothing whatsoever.
Of course there is a way out of this and that is;
1. Getting sensible economic practices put in place at the government level.
2. A complete revamp of education from whatever it is now to a more sensible education system that focuses on literacy and understanding as well as only provable techniques and practices. We eliminate teaching people stuff they will likely never use and theories that when implemented do not work.
3. A mental evolution so that people aren't succumbing to all sorts of stresses, any mental illness that does occur is handled swiftly and not just "managed" but actually resolved for real with non brutal, non-invasive techniques that get results
The Muslims know the solution to this problem... But I won't spoil it 🤣
We also know as women at least 90 percent of the work of raising children falls on women, even when we work more hours than our partners or make more money they still don’t do their share that’s not even counting a huge majority of men who completely abandoned their families with nothing, as a women I would never have kids because it’s like slavery we do t get pay or any benefit so punishes women with kids and rewards men even though they don’t participate in raising the kids
@@CoastalAkkcessthis!
wealthy women are not having babies even with all of the luxuries you mentioned at hand ?
I love my son with all my heart. When I look at his future I feel guilty and selfish for bringing him into his future. I pray for him and his future and ask God to protect him.
Trust God and be the wisdom your son needs, God will bless you for it. Please don't lead ur son to destruction in this cold world.
please keep your dumb fucking mythology to yourself.
Sorry, "God" is a myth. When we humans die, it's all over - as with all living creatures.
As a mother of 3 sons, 2 grchildren, i feel same, guilty for their suffering now and future😢💔
You should feel guilty. You forced him to suffer your selfish egotistical need for legacy without preparing him. You suck.
"When an organism perceives its environment as hostile, it chooses immortality. When it perceives its environment as friendly, it chooses reproduction." A quote from the movie "Lucy" that seems relevant to this discussion topic. I think generally men are increasingly recognizing the environment as hostile to them quite frankly (relationship risks including having children are not perceived as worth it).
I've heard this argument a lot more recently too. I for one will always chose to preserve myself over staring a family with even an ounce of uncertainty, if I do I'm subjecting them to the same life, crushed by corporations, taxes and political crooks. Or they leave and you're left with emptiness. I've grown up around it, and seen it all my life.
Damn y'all are so bleak😂 sorry everything is so horrible for you. Get off the internet for a week. Go hiking read a novel for fun. You have filled your mind with shit and it needs to take a dump😊
Damn, nailed it. That's so true. I'm taking good care of myself, because the odds of having a decently happy kid are higher if I wait out this narcissistic self-destructive civilization. The chances of having a downie during the last half of my life are lower than the chances of having my kid offing him/herself when it's found out what this world is.
It's not just men.
Personal survival dynamics avoid conflicts reproduction is seen as conflict.
You only need one sperm. But to nurture that child requires a stable job, a secure roof, and for at least 18 years of optimism that the things you can provide you can sustain.
Well SAID
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Why would anyone bother with that is beyond me. The only credit I give to having kids is it's a birth right to reproduce but why anyone would think it's a good idea in their thinking to have kids in this day is beyond me
It takes a village to raise a kid. Just that the village no longer exists.
Optimism being the most important. Kids are strong and don’t need much else.
When ordinary responsible people cannot afford housing, how can they afford to have children?
Is being irresponsible parent is better than not being parent? As a man who fell pressure from society and government I think maybe I should just marriage and give a birth to child and do barely minimum that I will not go to jail. I will never love my wife or children and will buy cheapest goods and services and leave them nothing except debt and problems.
I think in the past it was easier to become parent for that reason, you had child labour, corporal punsihment, but now when children has rights it is becoming to difficult to be parent.
People can't afford to have families, the barriers are too high. No one can buy a family home, most can't afford a new car, to feed an entire family, medical expenses, or any basic needs. People have been priced out of living, never mind a family.
Not those on Medicaid
Thats just an excuse to indulge in pleasure chasing and selfishness. I raised 3 boys, a stepdaughter and supported a wife on quite a low salary. You have to put yourself aside for others and not many people are willing to do that. I hope you change your mind because you sound like someone thats smart and has much to contribute to Humanity.
I have 7 children. Not rich. Earn about $100,000 per year. Just smart with my money
Problem. Not everyone is smart, and consequently, they are unable to earn enough to live a decent life.
@tomarmstrong1281 That's complete b*******, I don't even have a university degree and I make well more than enough to have a good life, I'm not sure what the hell is wrong with people.
They told us in the 1990s at school, don't have sex. So we don't. I'm 38, and proud to say I don't have any kids or relationships.
Now they get drag shows in schools we have come full circle lol
its best to have kids as early as possible. the younger you are, the more likelier you are to be healthier since bacteria and toxins build up in the body as you age. after you reach 30, its best to not have children.
Unlike most people you are intelligent for abstaining from parenthood. There are absolutely no advantages to being a parent, it is a miserable as Hell existence of work work work and more fucking work and stress. By abstaining from parenthood one is making one's life easier.
@@HELL-BENT74 we’ll see if you feel that way when your 70.
@@joejohnson3814 I am resolute in my opinion on parenthood. Unlike vast majority of people I am immune to loneliness, my experiences of life have toughened me up, as I was born into some very dire circumstances. I cherish my freedom which is priceless. It is utterly stupid people who throw away their life of freedom for a life of misery that comes from being a parent. Fact is that the lives of child-free people are considerably easier than that of parents, so those who make their lives considerably difficult by becoming parents can only be considered stupid.
The problem is the smarter I get the less attractive it makes the breeding pool.
not just that, we have new "vaginocapitalism" where vagina is used not as reproduction tool, but as social lift; and that destroys society, because it leads to scarcity of resource; as result vaginas are not working enough in our population, and it gives bunch of health problems - tissues die, degrade on cellular level, up to the increased cancer probability and subsequent elimination of womb and breasts surgically; vaginocapitalism destroys both men and women, so don't look at it as "matriarchy"; and all the deviations today essentially support vaginocapitalism; masturbation is a deviation
Script of Ideocracy.
OMG very well said!! I completely agree.
Just go to places where smart people gather if you want a smart partner my guy. But make sure you work on yourself so you are marriage material if you want a relationship
you have a problem - look inside not outside
200 years ago, you needed a large family to make the household, farm work. With the majority of the people now living in cities, large families aren't necessary to make a household function.
The issue to me is that society itself is not oriented to support families. If I had more support from family/community with childcare and other work I would have had 10 kids.
Yes, I agree. My parents held grudges against me and would not help. We had no other support system either, not even our church. We were only good for giving them our money and time, the never returned the favor. At one point, my husband was ill. I had all the responsibility of supporting us. We had two young children at the time. It was at that point that I decided no more kids. It just was too much. Several years later, things got straighten out, I tried to have another, but no luck, I was infertile. Insurance wasn't paying for treatment at the time (1990's). So the odds were stacked against us ever having more than two kids. I think that we were lucky even for that. If we had to do it today, I don't think we could afford it. $90./week for food for two people. We bought a house years ago when houses cost much less. Our children are grown, but neither wants kids. We will never have grandchildren. They are on the two different ends of the can't have kids spectrum. With our son, it's economic. He can't afford even marriage. Our daughter is the exact opposite. She and her husband earned big salaries, own a large house, but she loves her freedom and her traveling. She's not about to give it up. She bought her husband a dog instead and so her foreign born, old world in laws will have someone to baby sit while she travels. Their other son has no kids either, his common law wife has a child who is now a teen from another relationship. They are not getting married, but own a house.
@@Carol120454 Yay! for women's lib, congratulations you ladies have been played.
Profit ist nicht kompatibel mit unterstützende , nachhaltige Kinderpflege und Kinderbetreuung Betreuung. Genauso wenig wie mit Krankheitspflege und Versicherung. Die ,, Gesellschaft frisst ihre Kinder "! Aberante Entwicklung in einer Digitalen Era.😖
@@woodchuck83 no woodchuck we are good
Women are happier being single and living their best life, and they live longer
The trap is marriage. The only people who benefit from marriage are men.
A stable marriage also needs to be valued.
The working class were never meant to be happy, just productive and law abiding. Life is way too stressful. The non-stop spam calls and junk emails. Getting employment becomes a job with scammers pretending to be employers. Dating sucks, boomer parents can't understand our woes and work is psychological warfare. No children or marriage in my future. I have to schedule time with friends instead of being able to relax out out of leisure. Wage stagnation, high cost of living, high healthcare costs, high student loan debt and high costs for healthy food eats up 90% of our budgets. I regret being born. GOOD LUCK!
There was no working class before Agriculture
You have room in your budget for food? Nice.
Yes they where happy, for a time. Untill someone noticed they can diminish the working class
@@julianskinner3697just starvation.
Just a bundle of joy.
75, and never questioned having a child at 23. If I was of this generation I would not have children.
How comes?
@@jayo3074 cause men don't make enough to pay for everything the family needs. So the women need to be providers. So if they do have children, they don't actually get to be nurturers, because the state does that now. Everyone just gives their babies away to the state to be tormented and used by a system from hell.
@@jayo3074 Because.
AI will replace so so many jobs....
That idea will cause no kids everywhere
I appreciate both her fascination and her attempts to use specific language to recognize the science around all people without blame or shaming.
There are people choosing to not have kids these days that would impact the birth rate, doesn't mean they're infertile.
It's the lack of DESIRE to procreate
@Mocha Mommy yeah im 23 and have no desire for children. Most of the reason is im emotionally detached. Too much stress when we have emotions to be honest.
I’m 100% infertile because I got fixed at age 27. That’s was well over a decade ago and I still believe it was a very good decision for my emotional and financial wellbeing.
There will always be people with no desire. But increasingly as such there are people guilted out of it.
@@zZastik 23 is still super young tho
I just spoke to a guy yesterday who was telling me about a house that sold for $180K twenty years ago in Texas that was now worth $1.4 million. My income hasn’t increased 7 times since 2003. Who the hell can afford children?
Right? I'm not that old, but when I was in my early 20s, the min wage was $3.95! Now it not even double that, at $7-something. In the south, there are jobs that actually pay $10/hr. Where is the rent that matches that wage?
Go on welfare you can afford them
@@jgfjhg-co7iq I live in the forest and bathe in the lake, and it only costs me about 160$ per year to maintain my off grid home that costed 45k. just kidding
IT salaries are the exact same they were 20 years ago
@@JM-rr3qwActually sold ny home, moved onto a sailboat and my monthly is $200
More couples are waiting to have kids until they pay off their student loans, or at least get a handle on them. For a lot of them, they are in their mid to late 30's. Colleges are about 2/3 women these days which means they have 2/3 the debt. This makes the problem of being able to afford to have kids even worse.
I know of more than one woman who is saddled with heavy college debt, poor earning potential, and are feeling unable to start a family due to their debt load.
Free education and no student loans would be a huge benefit to the population of the US. There will NEED to be more beneficial social programs to support families and single parents in the US to maintain the current population.
@@DoubleOhSilver sure. Maybe they can cut back on things like food and hygiene 🙄
@Puddintame1242
Yea, I just love the rightwing talking points saying all this school debt is from people doing stupid things like not knowing how to budget or going to school for a useless degree. Nowhere do these rightwing propaganda outlets explain how this high debt was planned by the financial industry. This way they can keep you perpetually stuck in the "system" for decades and they can profit from the debt by packaging it up into securities like they did to mortgages and sell them off to investors as guaranteed income because almost nobody can file bankruptcy on these loans. God forbid any of that is mentioned.
Governments clawing at families for Tax, burdens couples and ends marriages breaks up families. Corruption in government discourages natural human relations which would result in children, couples reject bringing new life into a world where they are predated upon.
I've lived poor all my life. One day I made a pact to myself to never have children if I am unable to give them a good life. The day I made a pact, I was crying while doing the laundry, not my laundry but my cousin's laundry, there were five of them in the household and since me and my sister were forced to live with them to be able to study, we took on the role like house slaves. That day, I just got off from working at McDonald's busting out the dining, worked for 8 hrs, I was only 16. At the end of the shift, I was having trouble with my legs, they felt so heavy. My whole body was so painful all over, I was shaking. I thought I could rest and have a pecaful night so I was really excited to get home. Upon arriving home I was met with the laundry, imagine 3-4 huge basins and some buckets. While my other cousin was just sitting prettily inside the house, didn't even bother to help me. I started crying while doing their laundry and swore that I won't being a child on this earth if I will only give them an awful life, so at 39 I still don't have a child. Life was hard before but it is like a horror movie now. Who would want to bring a child into this world in this state, I know I wouldn't.
We are living in the best world possible. Life quality, especially for women, has never been better. Your parents, and definitely your grandparents had a lower life quality than you and a f*ck ton less expectations. I am from a country that has recently industrialized and the difference between my life quality and expectations and those of my grandparents is staggering. South Korea has the lowest birth rate in the world, they are a country with very high HDI but 30-40 years ago they were dirt poor. Expectations and culture changed. In two generations they went from eating dogs to become a bunch of dog parents.
@@barondino4628so the dying earth that we're living on, consuming poison in all our food and drink, inhaling poison in every breath we take, soaking up poison in our skin as we take a step outside is the best world we can possibly have?
Sounds about white to me.
I feel you. I was the oldest daughter. I had to care for my siblings and also cousins until my 18 bd. And because of this i hated children so much. Over 20 years i needed to find peace and wanting a child of mine. And not see evil in children. Im pregnant and i will have only 1, because he will not be a child parent. He will have a childhood. But i still get hurt when i see a big family and the older kids watch their siblings. This hurt me so much for them and im angry of the parents.
@@barondino4628"Best world possible" you gotta make yer fibs believable. The world was better some 30 years ago from my vantage point, and you got the gall to tell us shit is better now? Ha ha ha.
I too was very poor. When I was young we were so poor that I couldn't afford grandparents!
when would i ever have the time to get a girlfriend and get married, have kids, raise kids. there's no time, i need all of my time to make money just so i can survive
It takes a 2 income family. Don't forget your partner makes money too.
@@zhinan888 I don't know a single married man who saved money by getting married
I was married, I paid all the bills, did ALL the housework, all the cooking, all the yard work, all the car maintenance, all the utilities etc etc..
She worked , so she had money.
This is the typical American relationship, the man gets used, abused and treated like a disposable utility with no value as a person.
I got laid off my high paying job, took two full time jobs and still did all the housework.
I wanted children she didn't so we had none.
She left when I lost my job.
I was 29, never dated again.
I know at least a dozen meb Who can say the same..
Wow!
@@DeadCat-42dayumm bro like for real?😮
Honestly with so many current crisis, it's hard to worry about something that will happen 50/100 years from now. I rather take a more stoic approach to such subjects to protect my own mental health.
Put women back in the kitchen bois
Yeah, but this is a real crisis. Clear, genuinely modelable, and media is not covering it so we know it is real. To fix? start by stopping the pay gap lie.
There have always been problems. WWI, WWII, the Great Depression, the gasoline shortage of the 70s, the Cold War, the Savings and Loan scandal of the 80s. The birth of the internet, Social media start, 9-11 and the loss of our privacy, COVID. The 2008 mortgage crisis. Higher incidence of insulin resistance and diabetes leading to inflammation and cancer.
Problems have always been here. The problem is that we are much more aware now than ever before or problems.
My suggestion to everyone in the U.S. is to get away from the T.V., social media, UA-cam, and start saving money, start walking, be friendly, and meet your neighbors.
You know...fundamental stuff.
Never before have people been told to not have children like this
yeah, but given that this is something that may take three generations to solve, by the we address it, it's going to be pretty damn late.
Anyway. This isn't a 50 years from now problem. In many places it is a now problem. Africa is the only place in the world that is at replacement levels today and fertility is drooping sharply even there.
Poor diet, high stress, low pay, high pollution, low sleep, and the endless self-reeducation to keep up with technological changes leaves little time for romance. At least among the poors.
mans only reads headlines 💀
Couldn't have said it better.
Fertility is higher in lower income families. Women's education and career aspirations drives down family size (often to 0 because they wait too long).
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My take. I grew up watching women look after the husband, the house, the kids, hold down a job, then get dumped for some young tootsie when they got older. Men of course, never got older (!)Then as I got older myself, I saw women work round the kids, get a job, learn to drive. Many older women are completely independent, have their own homes, go on holiday with friends. It's the guys that treated them so badly who end up alone,needing a woman to care for them and guess what? Nobody is there.
Yes, exactly. That’s just how I saw these things develop in the sixties. The eighties saw divorce and women left poorer and left to raise the children , keep a job and do all the usual jobs needed to run a household.
Having seen this I would never now bring children into this world. And there is climate change to consider now.
That's a very accurate summary
Women cheat as often as men, their pair-bonding is not as strong when it happens and there’s an estimated 5-20% of men who unknowing raise children who are not their own. Women instigate divorce at considerably higher rates than men as well so thinking men are afraid or not dedicated to commitment is not born out by reality either. This isn’t an “evil men duhh patriarchy” problem.
Never happened in human history.
When women took care of everyone, men didn't dump them.
The divorce surges started after WW2, by which time, women had begun to NOT take care of everyone, reaching its peak, not yet.
Today, if a woman does manage to manipulate a man into marriage, she pushes him around constantly and uses threats of violence, prison grape and the police against him.
Every decision made by a "couple" is made by her, BUT blamed on and paid for by him.
Usually, the women throw the men out.
When a man DOES leave, he rarely has another woman.
When women throw men out, they usually have another man to.move right in.
Gee... The theory of abusive men must really make you happy. Gives an excuse. But there are fewer and fewer such men all the time.
BTW, almost ZERO MEN want to put up with women anymore, even just to get laid, let alone get married.
This woman is almost 90 years old and is STILL sharp as a tack intellectually. Impressive.
She is 87 years old , born 1936😊
@@hectorappertie.6944 I guessed she was around 70. She looks and acts so youthful.
Sleepy Joe should take whatever brain pills she's on.
By that age she has a lot of life experience and can foretell the future easily. When old people warn me of the future consequences of my current actions I always take them seriously. That's why I have no regrets.
She's only 37 but is vegan.
Make life more affordable by paying the working class, then boom you’ll see more kids. Cuz we can’t afford kids .
equal pay equal work someone who does half the work.............same job.........
have actually seen both
So dumb
you can never afford kids you have them because you want them not that you can afford them. little buggers are like vampires but worth it.
You mean more single mothers. Feminism got into their heads.
One quibble: it’s not that women who have kids are having less, they aren’t having less-it’s that the number of childless women has grown exponentially. This is in most part due to not finding a partner within the fertility window and/or delaying too long where artificial insemination treatments fail.
last part is spot one, in my country most women that have the first kid they do it at 32 based on stats? at 33 women fertility drops by 50% i think and also gettin older mentaly and physicaly does not help. So ye there was a reason why years ago people had kids in their 20s
Very true "unplanned childlessness."
@@Gabriel902884I agree, young women should delay university not having children.
Millions of women choose to vote themselves men's incomes through big government rather than marry and raise families. They then pay lip service to wanting a family once it's too late. You don't defer something you want for as long as possible.
Most don’t want kids. Why do you think the ‘child free’ movement is a thing? Women are not prioritising those things. That’s all it is 😂
Economic issues are probably the biggest thing preventing people from having families. Everything is too expensive…
Thats just an excuse selfish people use, get to fucking and contribute
It's the most common excuse, but data shows the opposite. Higher income is correlated with fewer children unless the income exceeds half a mil a year.
@@michaelrhodes73 Source?
I noticed a change in the dating market starting in the mid-to-late 2000s - if you went on a date with someone and it didn't work out, instead of it ending gracefully or without tension or hostility, you would often get insulted or humiliated. I don't remember that happening in the 90s.
😮 sad. We are gradually losing our manners and our kindness, empathy.
@@marygoff3332 It's partly cultural change but now that I think of it, it's also the type of dates I was on. In the 90s it was perfectly good women in their 20s and younger, same age as me, who later went on to long-term serious relationships. By the 00s, it was late 20s to early 40s women who, had they been more normal, wouldn't have even been dating but because they weren't, were by now becoming bitter and rabidly judgemental if you didn't tick all their boxes. Instead of sorting out their own problems internally, which in their late teens or early 20s just looked like "growing pains" on the way to becoming adults, they were now blaming you for their own failures and shortcomings. Most of the ones with their heads screwed on were already spoken for by this point, a decade or more into their adult lives. Just the leftovers remained. Men on the market at the same stage of life aren't as weird because they often have more juvenile interests until a decade or so into their adult lives - they take longer to be ripe for the picking.
haha! I've gone on 'dates' where I was (tragically) so glad and relieved it was over, and never looked back, just looked forward to getting a better 'date'
@@Fongolitus The problem was that my experience over about a decade was that if dating someone wasn't going anywhere, you would simply (without hostility or enmity) mutually go your seperate ways. At some point after that however, it morphed into a semi-regular pattern of being insulted and humililated when we didn't hit it off. The first 10 years of dating looked nothing like the next 5, so I wasn't at all prepared for it.
@@ReturnOfTheJ.D.Oh, I assure you, the leftover men are every bit as weird. A 33-year-old who's eagerly awaiting the new Star Wars product, still works an entry-level job, and can't cook is off-putting.
Greed. People don’t want to have to fight the fight anymore. The 1% want most of us gone, and it’s happening. It’s not just phylates, believe me.
Yes, and Jordan Peterson's argument that in times of the dragon, raise dragon slayers is a lame comeback.
I believe the elite already have the stuff needed to replace the bottom 50 percent and they are not just releasing it yet they are waiting for us to die off.
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Why would anyone listen to that shill..
They are putting chemicals in our tap water to make men more feminine it is sad this world is sick
Almost all food is packaged in plastic. First, you have the visible plastics. Then:
Metal cans- plastic lined.
Butcher paper - plastic lined
Glass jar - plastic or plastic lined lid
Fresh produce - bag it in plastic yourself
Please read my comment below. Yikes !
Diapers are made out of plastic. Too bad if you are allergic.
Now some fruit is being sprayed with plastic too
@@eggplant000 Low libido and low sperm count will be the new norm in the future. The U.S. is not far behind South Korea. South Koreans are the number one consumer of plastics. They use it for everything. If you watch K-drama or K-pop, you will see many of their men look like girls. They have the lowest birth rate in the world.
We are doomed.
If reproduction and childcare is so important than women with kids who are “unemployed” should not get so judged
I lived aboard a sailboat for 15 years, sailing the world, it was a magical time. I have seen first hand the increase in microplastics in the oceans, no surprise that fish are becoming toxic to eat now. Further, as a landlubber now, I see the chemicals destroying the soil, directly or through air pollution, and poisoning the food chain. No surprise to me we are killing ourselves, fertility as well. Further, i had a vasectomy at 30, in my mind I never wanted kids, still don't, and at 72 no regrets, a personal choice. I followed my wanderlust heart. Life is not a dress rehearsal. Live large.
Nope, you never saw any of that about microplastics. Nope, you haven't seen chemicals destroying the soil. As for life being a 'dress rehearsal', you decided to live in a one-man play about yourself instead of living the real life.
@@jonathandewberry289 Please wake up! Now in my late sixties, I have lived a 'regular' life and have observed what danmcmurry describes. That's a sweeping statement and there have also been some apparent improvements but increasing pollution is - alas - real.
@@htimsid He hasn't observed those things and neither have you. You haven't been seeing 'microplastics' ever. Not once did you go to the beach and notice such a thing. Nor have you observed an increase in pollution. You have not seen such a thing in your entire life.
You've actually lived in a time when pollution has been decreasing and cleaning up pollution (from previous eras) but cleaning it up has been increasing.
So, nope, alas, it isn't real at all but only your imagination.
Be grateful you happened to be born and lived in a very rare time when society was so wealthy it could afford to reduce pollution.. really.. just afford to care about it enough to even start measures at all.
You were blessed to live in such a time. lucky, undeserved. be grateful.
@@jonathandewberry289 Apparently unless you live the way most sheeple live, you are living a fake life?
Living the dream
This conversation has been enormously disturbing…. BUT I’m extremely grateful for the eye opening information!
Very disturbing, even more so because I think most people would prefer the convenience of plastic over caring about the effects.
I am just glad the MeToo movement got the world they wanted
I mean does it matter that our reprudction is compromised when 85% of men are seen as worthless?
We’ve lived without plastics before. It’s called glass containers. We need to look no further that Ohio disaster to know how bad the “plastic revolution” was when everyone was shamed into taking plastic over paper when at the end of the grocery story checkout.
Everything in that paper bag is still plastic packaged food, even the boxed items have a plastic inner wrapper.
Glass is fragile, I can get a pack of 42 water bottles that I can carry for like 3 bucks, to get that many glass waterbottles would cost a lot more, be much heavier and one slip up and there's glass everywhere. There are alternates to plastic being creates now adays but it takes time to scale them up. One of the coolest I've seen is containers made from plant fiber, I have multiple bowls made from wheat and rice husk, they are plastic and chemical free, they are freezer and microwave safe, biodegradable and non toxic.
@@ChatGPT1111that’s always floored me. We avoid plastic as much as possible and it’s not easy.
I dehydrate food and store it in airtight glass containers. Soon I'm going to start canning... in glass containers. I prepare and freeze meals and meal bases... in glass containers.
I'm a physician former forensic psychiatrist and psychoanalyst and I have been worried about men in different ways for my entire career: this is one of the best podcast/videos I have ever seen. Testosterone is for women too - libido correlates with motivation focus concentration productivity and other mood issues not just anxiety also a kind of depression that interfere with the experience of pleasure....Thanks so much
Very interesting subject, Tom. We're about the same age and I too remember being told not to get anyone pregnant. I remember sitting at the dinner table and my dad threatening us not to. I realize he just didn't want us having children before our time but it stigmatized what it meant to have children and I therefore never did. Another factor was how I watched my parents struggle to pay the bills. While our family had what it needed, we certainly weren't flash but never took handouts from the government either. I always had handed down bikes and wore cheap tennis shoes, for example. It taught me to be very self-sufficient and to take care of what I had. I have a brother and sister and they only have one child each. When our country went to two income households in the 70s, supercharged by the high divorce rate, it was the beginning of the end. The advent of the birth control pill played into this as well. Then, technology killed any new baby boom we might have had in the 90s. I think a lot of people wish they could morph into the gadgets that consume their every waking moment and shrug off their humanity which explains the increasing hostility and lack of empathy toward each other.
When 'patriarchy'ruled, they had to drum that into boys and girls. Many went on to have multiple generations of children. If that was defining for you, as anti natal, perhaps it's not because of what was present in your life, but what was missing.
How did technology kill the baby boom in the 90's?
Pretty much
If it's any comfort, not all of us younger folks drank the Kool Aid. My husband and I had four children by the time we were 35. I think it helped that we were both raised in households where the mother stayed home to work as a caretaker, and the father worked full time.
It's not modern life exactly that is causing so many of us in Western nations to become more and more celibate, rather it's programming that is an attempt to rile up younger and middle-aged males to go to war, followed by those still alive after that war coming home to lots of "kitty cat" stuff. "Do the work (of war), get the reward" being the message.
Twenty years ago 60% of males in their 20s surveyed said they "made whoopie" at least once in the previous 12 months, and about 70% of same aged females said the same. Today, 60 to 70% of woman in their 20s say they are "making whoopie" at least once a year, but only about 20 to 30% of males in their 20s have even had one date in the previous year.
Clearly social programming is doing this.
I love kids but my hubby and I will never create more miserable slaves. All we do is work. We're both educated and work an insane amount just to get by. We used to vacation every year but that's no longer in the budget either.
Too many cars and your house too expensive
@andre1987eph Nope. We drive older and paid off vehicles. We live in a very small house that was bulit in the 50's. We just live in commie Canada and can't immigrate to the states because we're white.
@@andre1987ephahh yes so just be content with living like a maggot for the rest of our days and be happy about it ,right ? The politicians did a good job with brainwashing you
@@andre1987ephnot necessarily.
@@STMARTIN009 People have garages filled with barely used toys.
Young people are sad and don't have a great out look, so why have kids... the future doesn't look all that good to them. Chemicals are one thing but I think the mental aspect of reproducing (loneliness, social media, dating sites, body issues, woke, stress, etc) is just too much for many people.
In a world where those in power view a person as a cash cow to be milked.. the best thing we can do is stop giving them more.
Here's a hot (probably wrong) take. People are voting with how happy they are with the direction of humanity with the amount kids they decide to have
Not a hot take. This is being engineered by our ruling class of eugenicists
exactly.
This mouse utopia shit is driving ppl insane.
we were not meant to live like this.
Voting for the demise of your bloodline to be replaced by 3rd world country immigrants sounds brilliant
Hot take, people are more self-centered / social media centered to develop enough mentally for parenthood. Also, they now have other things to do during the long winter nights
Agreed. This is truly a zero stars experience. I wouldn’t bring a child here.
My whole life I knew I wanted to be a father, it was instinctual and part of my dating criteria. I only dated women who wanted kids too. But I'm 30 years old now and something changed along the way. I'm unsure if I want to have kids anymore, and if I were to articulate why, it's because throughout my 20s I struggled with my career. 6 years of study, and then 6 years of struggle just to become financially stable, and have a level of leverage. My 30s feels as if I'm having a delayed 20s. I'm literally buying action figures, and shit I couldn't even afford in my 20s. In my 30s I'm a bit burned out, overworked, and I'm just starting to search for contentment in life. Many of my friends still struggle, so many still live with their parents, are broke, working fast-food / "dead end jobs"... these are difficult times. If you cannot even support yourself, and don't feel like you have leverage in your own life, how are you going to feel ready to raise a whole second human being? Folks can't even afford dental / healthcare, can't afford homes... How are they going to feel like they can afford a child? I actually didn't health insurance throughout my 20s because I couldn't afford it. My wisdom teeth literally rotted, and I couldn't do anything for 2 years because the dentist quoted me 8000$ for impacted surgeries. I actually traveled to India for 2300$ and had it done for 300$. Since I've experienced hardships, I know it's often not selfish / superficial. It's not that women only want independence, or men don't want to be tied down. If you look at the graph, "In bad times fewer babies are born", it dipped during the great depression, during the 1973 oil crisis, and now during the recession / inflation. If people felt financially / emotionally stable, wanting children would be the natural next challenge.
I would also say the west incentivized divorce, and men are more reluctant of legal marriages, and there's obviously a toxic culture of OF, gender wars, radical feminism, "we don't need men", the radical red pill stuff etc. The algorithm shows me that shit on a daily basis.
Pretty much my same story. Finally got fairly stable in 2019 but couldn't get a house due to retirement investment firms snatching everything up with cash. Pandemic, then inflation. I graduated into the 08 crash back in the day.
My environment is hostile and unstable. I can eat today, but tomorrow is uncertain. Throughout highschool I wanted nothing more than to be a Dad. No thought for career. Just have kids and find a way. Now I'm an antinatalist.
in a nutshell!
I’m sorry dude but the men that can afford to get married. Still marry. Divorce or not. Men of higher status do not care about that. It’s the men who do not have much to begin with that are always worrying about something that no one is even asking them for. Who is asking you to marry them? Can you even get a date? Even if you wanted kids, do you have a woman that wants to do that for you? I heavily doubt it. All that divorce stuff is just an excuse 😂
That's my sentiment exactly, however
I see things a little differently lately, I am simply a product of my environment, we all are in some way shape or form, the more shit you are exposed to at an earlier stage, the more problems you are likely to have later on, that's why statistically broken families birth broken children by raising them in a wrong environment, if and when they form families of their own, they are more likely to bring up broken children because people attract what feels familiar and do as such, it looks to be an unbreakable cycle, and what I innately feel is I need to break this cycle, by potentially not having children of my own if the right environment is not there.
The younger you are the less you think about consequences and only look towards the exciting stuff, that's why some cultures push people to marry early, so the raw rice is already cooked so to speak, so you go along to get along to get on with it. Not saying which is right or wrong, but I feel it's easier to make decisions while you are still young and "stupid", much harder when you have seen enough or wise enough, the power of will is very different.
Bro you're dead accurate, and its amazing! Wish you the best bro!
Modern media, film, television, internet, have made it possible for everyone to see what the best lives are like: the lives of the most beautiful people, the richest people, the luckiest people.
90% of people are collateral victims of life: unremarkable, unattractive, hopeless in terms of talents, success and finances.
It is not surprising if some percentage of that majority comes to the conclusion that they do not want to participate in life. They don't have the quality, strength or courage for success, they don't want to settle, so they choose not to participate: _"I don't want to be with a woman if I can't have a beautiful woman. I don't want to have children if I can't afford the best life for myself and them. I don't want to work hard if I know I won't achieve success worth the effort."_
I understand and support that.
What can you do except making the average life better?
That’s a good way to look at it though I’m seeing mostly women thinking this way not guys but am now seeing a large number of men and boys 16-35 wanting to not participate at all
@@Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387I would definitely say it goes both ways if not more so with men. Women are more picky for sure but it’s more so men with these hopeless “if I can’t have/do it why bother” thoughts. It’s not surprising the suicide rate with men is higher than women. Also see more women opting out of the dating game too just as men are. Almost all the women I know choose to be single/don’t pursue relationships now. So weird, when I was younger I couldn’t wait to find my special person, now at the age of 25 and seeing how the dating game currently works… I’m good too lol
The problem is we see and are sold a very curated version of what "the best" is.
I dated much of my 20s and 30s, wanted to settle down (but never wanted children). I was a very attractive younger woman, and had my pick of the litter. As I aged, I stayed fit, colored any grays, used sunscreen, no drinking, no smoking. Now in my 50s looking 35, and every man looks like Santa Claus, only fatter. I have been dating late-30s and that is not sustainable because I don't feel we have much in common. I'd like a man closer to my age that is still appealing. I made the effort for them. And I am stuck with nothing and feeling pretty bitter.
Stupidity is already destroying not only America but the world.
Nah, it's not plastics that is lowering the fertility rate, it's how starter homes now cost $500k in most of the country.
And the median salary is low in most places. Even at 4x my salary. I still will not be able to get a decent place to buy.
both
exactly
They cost many times more than that after it all gets taken by the female who is not that pretty any more.
This part my husband and I live modestly and bring in 100K and it's still a struggle.
The world is a mess. Everything's upside down yet only a few notice it. Living a normal life is now considered abnormal and vice versa. I'm a single man, never smoke, drink or fornicate. Yet still couldn't find a woman to marry. Any decent ladies here? I live sustainably trying to live minimally with organic produce.
Your organic produce is covered in organic pesticides and that still has nothing to do with your microplastic consumption.
Anyway it's may so you can still plant a lot of your own food for this year.
I am a single woman but your use of the word “fornicate” is scary. Sounds like you’re 120 years old 😂
@-whackd Depends on how long your season is but ya, even buying plant starts is better than nothing 🍅🥒🍠
Its wild how many guys are single who own homes, don't do drugs, and practically are just waiting to meet a decent women. I have two friends like this and I'm a girl. If I was single maybe I'd go for them. But it's so odd that we can't find any nice girls for them. 😢
@@violetravven5497It's not odd.
I'm from Utah which has always had the highest birth rate in the U. S. It's still the highest in the nation at 2.1 children per household, but since the 80's until the last decade or so, it was 3.1 children. Culture and economics has definitely played a major role.
That is a huge decline! Damn... But with the Mormon focus on education and career, it does make sense.
MORMONS VALUE CHILDREN
Permanent resident of Japan here and over the past 25 years I've seen a dramatic decline in interest in sex and marriage. In my university classes the number of students who are not interested in getting married has sky-rocketed. Frankly, I think in the developed world our children, mine included, live in relative isolation from both other people and danger. This makes the prospect of having a family that much more frightening -even if you can afford it.
Hemp-based plastics would avoid this whole problem. Damn Reefer Madness
How is hemp plastic
@@-whackd plastics just means malleable. We can have "natural" plastics. We see petrochemical ones because they're ridiculously cheap and highly available.
Yes hemp definitely needs to be utilized more. All packaging should be completely biodegradable, we absolutely have the technology to do it at this point.
Is wish it wasnt so expensive tho
Hemp seed oil replaces diesel gasoline. Proof is on you tube
Loving this channel and these long-form discussions. You are very respectful, you let people speak, you hear them out and listen to what they're actually saying, and you push back and ask important questions to further the discussion. Kudos to you my man, this type of content is sorely lacking nowadays.
Bless this woman and all her work, this is the only way to impact the use of these harmful chemicals and you can tell how much of her life she has invested
She can't change anything, don't be naive.
its not just chemicals, its our lifestyles in general.
You know how one measures, but one gets an image of of a Dr saying, excuse me madam, this may seem like a weird question but,,,
This has to be affecting cancer rates and general human health, not just reproductive health.
@@purpur7187 What are you expecting? She is a scientist, not someone with political nor economic power.
She is doing vitally important work and we need to listen. We as a society can fix this if we act on what she is talking about.
God forbid the governments and corporations run out of slaves
They want this and have progressed it , they will have more and more robotics roll out
Really glad the guest spoke out against the reductionism. "We are just chemical processing plants" is way too reductionist. We cant even explain consciousness, so I'm glad she pointed out that theres still much we can't explain with science. She's a true scientist.
Agreed
The evil in this world is anti-reductionism: BIGOTS WHO MAKE DUMBSHIT GENERALIZATIONS against entire political parties or other categories of people.
Me, too!
Agreed, and there were a few other occasions whereby she cautioned against making direct conclusions when the possible answers were open. She is a true scientist.
In the 70's we were warned of over population.
Then we’re doing great
We were also told that we would have far more leisure time, and sent on courses to prepare for early retirement, so we would have plenty of interests. Instead, we are all having to work far longer because the money is not there to provide pensions.
Overpopulation was bad for us, because we competed for resources. We always do that but the overpopulation reduced the resources significantly and predatory corporations took advantage of that. That’s why we have outrageous prices today. That’s how CEO’s came to make 400 times that of their employees. Those things will not change if the population declines. Those greedy men will just watch the rest of us die, as they already have been.
Some, not all. @@keithgriffiths9864
Look around. Tell me honestly that you think we're not overpopulated on a global scale. Look at the way tourism is destroying places. The way poor countries' governments are suspending services in the wake of demand-based infrastructure failures. The way we're all starting to worry about aquifers collapsing and various cities plan on how to avoid hitting day zero water crises.
It's just that... after the overshoot comes the collapse.That's the really awful bit, the part that includes a lot of human suffering, and it's why they were warning about overpopulation.
As a Childfree Nigerian guy this is a problem I wish we have. Japan under population in a 1st world country is better than overpopulation in poor country. Imo 👍
Speak for yourself. Have you compared the size of Nigeria, or Africa, to the "1st world " size? Nigeria has more than enough to sustain her population. Look elsewhere for the problem.
sharrrap mumu nigerian na so una go dey try impress onyinbo by bashing your country in public, fool.
While family sizes are still large in Nigeria, birth rates are declining. As people become more urbanized and women become more educated, the population reduces in all counties.
Don't worry you'll be declining in the next decade...
@@christinarichie6171 and sharp decline.
Men are more likely to lose everything in a divorce including child custody. It's not worth it to us.
Men get custody 60% of the time they ask. Men do not want custody. Also 70% of married women work
Beeing childfree is a blessing in this sh!ty era we live in
When I saw the thumbnail I thought for a second that it was Robert Greene 😂
Based vatnik
What are you being blessed with?
@@BlueMountainSports freedom, money, time mostly
ESL ?
Stress + poor diet + pollution + Pharmaceuticals and everything else are destroying all of us.
Doctors had me on 14!!! different medications for several years. They kept saying I was getting worse so they would add another pill or increase the dosage of the ones I was already taking.
Finally my son and I went on a sort of retreat together for 4 days and did a deep dive research into everything the doctors said I had and every medicine they had me taking.
When we returned, I had every test imaginable done and put all the meds/Rx’s in box. Didn’t tell the doctors anything and even continued to fill the Rx’s so they wouldn’t suspect anything 😮
Also, changed my diet completely with a plan my son came up with.
I started eating what he calls “single ingredient” foods.
Nothing from a box or bag, only the freshest stuff I can get.
Lots of protein, eggs cooked in real butter with real cheese, lamb, chicken, beef, venison, elk, antelope, fish (wild).
Absolutely zero soy!
Nothing with multiple ingredients I usually can’t pronounce and don’t know what they are.
No seed oils of any kind, no sugar, no alcohol except a little red wine.
Low carbs (no store bought bread) but not zero carbs.
I eat from 11am to 5pm every day.
3 months later I had all the tests done again.
Absolutely every test/level came back great all green.
I had lost 51 lbs, 8” off my waist, BMI went from 28% to 14.5%, no more diabetes, no more pain, normal blood pressure, all symptoms were gone all without exercise!
It’s been 4 years since then and my wife who is 24 years younger than me (I’m over 50) is very pleased and is in heaven 2 - 3 times a day 😮😂🎉🎉
I take zero meds, BMI is 12% and I’ve gained 20lbs of muscle.
Life is good 😊😊😊
Cheers
Great
Gross, I'd never have sex with a grandpa, eww
Totally awesome stuff till you mentioned making whoopie two to three times a day. Yeah, riiiiiight.
You don't list your BMI in percentages (%). Did you mean that your body fat is 12%?
Must be nice to afford eating that way. Jealous. Glad you're feeling better.
Bringing a child into this world has literally become a living hell. I can see why.
Was it ever easy? Ask your parents. They were probably scared too..
It is relevant to the times. Social norms, political view points shift, and even religious dogma can change. Every generation faces new problems and challenges. It also seems every new generation blames the preceding generations for the challenges it faces.
@@liopleurodon155 yes
@@alwayslearning8365 "every new generation blames the preceding generations..." Well yeah, of course we can. If we're taught when we're young and impressionable to be dreadfully fearful of getting pregnant, getting others pregnant, and having kids before establishing yourselves financially first... then why blame us if we live with that fear later in life?
The rampant inflation and screeching of babies in every neighborhood and all the beaches during the summer months is proof the world is grossly overpopulated. How dare the breeders create this inflation due to selfish breeding and they are not held accountable for the disaster they created. And on top of all that the overpopulation due to selfish breeders has caused the panet to become toxic.
The idea that they need a huge house and expensive cars phones etc,.. is what makes having a family seem out of reach
exactly, sadly most people in the comments are ignorant morrons and dont understand this.
Housing for many takes more than 70% of income. So cars and cell phones have nothing to do with it.
It’s sad because Ohio (where I live) had that spill a few months ago, which of course the media didn’t give a shit about till the people in the area started to yell and rightfully so, and we resorted to drinking bottled water. So where the hell are we supposed to get water from? Even in Fl where I’m from it’s an issue. Deerfield beach had a flesh eating bacteria in an apartment complex which according to a few people is still an issue… I’m convinced are infrastructure is about to collapse at the very least.
our infrastructure, grammar went first
Thank you Tom and Shanna. I am a single gay man. I considered having a child. Putting the financial burden aside; I cannot in good conscience bring my progeny into this world. Because in my opinion, humanity treats each other like disposable fodder for consumer capitalism to exploit and I cannot guarantee my child will be cared for appropriately if something happens to me and I die. Look at how we treat the homeless and immigrants. No thank you!
@@JesterMax24 The "Breed or let people in" argument is a false dichotomy. Japan and South Korea don't buy in.
@@JesterMax24 I love how even those parts of the world know there are more important things than GDP.
But also look at how the "homeless" (generally drug addicts of young/working age males) treat themselves. I have myself and those I love to worry for. I can't help them, too. They are too far gone. And no, I am not christian.
Damn you nailed it ..
Homeless can't be helped. Soviet Union tried to put people that wanted to wander around and drug addicts and alcoholics in jobs. It was disaster. You don't want to work with such people
This is shocking! I knew about the negative impact from plastics on humans and males specifically, but this interview opened my horizont dramatically.
Thank you Shanna Swan!
This was brought to our attention at least 25 years ago - you simply ignored it
No wonder my penis is small
Please explain this to me everyone's talking about population collapse but with automation and AI robots what do we need more people for
"Suppose I told you that I.Q. had dropped fifty percent"
Looking at who people are voting for, I'd say that's a real possibility.
The American diet is terrible. There are more and more omnivorous human beings eating a vegetarian diet. People don't eat enough protein, and they are eating inferior proteins from vegetables instead of the required proteins from meat and eggs.
There is no way in this world for people to maintain I.Q. rates when they are doing these things.
In addition, our hobbies and jobs do not continue to demand high levels of thinking due to increasing levels of division of labor.
Yes, we are getting dumber.
Oh well, one of them anyway
@@ednakravitz2738 That's for sure. You really have to wonder how sleeping one's way to the top can actually work at such high levels of leadership. We should all be embarrassed for this ridiculous system that allows this.
@@billstrasburg384yea, I agree. DJT (President Bonespurs) sure did sleep with a lot of hot chicks. Too bad he was married at the time
Look at the candidates
Send everyone back to farm life. We grew up not eating fast food of any kind. We played in the woods. We never had plastic anything in our homes. Vinegar was the answer for sore throats, ear aches and cleaning. Cob web bandages. So many things were different growing up in the country.
Hum hum get somebody else to do it.... we're not bringing black slavery back😅
That is not what the economy would like
Hopelessly naive.
No thanks
Lol sounds like the depression era. So that means you must be around 100 years old?
Whats the incentive of having children in todays world. I can barely afford to take care of myself. I cant imagine taking care of a child in this piss poor world
Child tax credit that gets less and less each year because inflation hates you and wants you to suffer.
You are brainwashed not to have kids
You are brainwashed to have O kids
When money starts to be more invested in improving the well-being of people, then they start to give birth again. Until then, what's the point if having children now is too costly?
In an overpopulated, overpolluted world, this sounds like a good thing.
Natural course correction. Those who are mindful will be the ones likely to carry through. Fair enough.
Yes!
My thoughts exactly.
And you are among those overpopulating the world, or are you exempted?
The southwest has an exploding population with families having 5 or more kids. No lack of population at all. Poor, and yet...they can afford to have a big family.
Millennials and GenZ have been socialized to have less kids. Look at the storylines and messages in TV and movies for the last 30 years.
Well said
Tom, let her talk... quit interrupting her as she's trying to develop her points. And what she is talking about is absolutely critical and so exactly explains a lot of the modern social and cultural issues happening today. Like gender dysphoria particularly prominent in males, for example. And don't confuse her points, which are about the base biology of human reproduction, with birth rate declines caused by economic or macro cultural factors like cost of living. And obviously she's trying to talk by his bantering on about penis size etc. Its too late , you can't change what was planted a few days after conception.
Listening to old women is what has led us to this point.
she's RUDE as H*ll. She's not letting him TALK!
They kept interrupting each other so I f**ked it off at 2'33. But she seems an interesting author so I will seek her out elsewhere.
Attentional Deficit
She is just another educated idiot who thinks her opinion matters
Thank you, Shanna Swan. Solid research and carefully explained. Exemplary!
I am an RN and never had kids because my work exhausted me and my husband had no ability to do housework or be supportive. Now i am 69 an adult orphan, alone., divorced. I miss not having a family of my own but i did not have the energy or support i needed as a woman to bear children. It was a horrific choice i felt i had to make. I saw no point in having a child i would be too exhausted to raise. Nursing as a career requires sacrifices that women should not be forced to make. I needed support to work and have kids but it was not there, tragic. I would have been an amazing mother and my elder years are lonely. Sad
People had kids in 1882 when we all worked 100 hour weeks growing crops.
You chose divorce.
That is why you are alone.
Samencia you wouldnt last a day working as an emergency nurse on a 12 hour shift!
@@sammencia7945
She would be even lonlier if she were married to an unsuitable man.
@@sammencia7945 Lol we didn't work that many hours a week all year growing food for our selves and at least they had time off in the winter. You worked from sun up to sun down for a few weeks in the spring and few weeks in the fall with maybe a week or so for the hay season. We had more time off or for rest before the industrial revolution then we do now. Also in the past when we worked we didn't have to go anywhere it was all there at home on the farm with the family so you were spending time with your family and sometimes friends while you worked. It is really an interesting thing to look in to about history and how there was a push to get people off the farms and in to the cities to work but how hard it was to do that because of how much more time they had to work.
There are plenty of lonely people out there....find them and you wont be lonely. Church group? All the best😀
One thing I don’t worry about is under-population.
Because you don't get it?
but govt's do.....in time, the gov't will fail.....too many old ppl not enough young ppl paying into the system....
@@stevegaines3590 We don't need more people paying into Social Security. We need the $160,000 income cap removed or raised so that those high income people pay enough to keep the system solvent. Takes just a stroke of the pen, but Republicans won't support this. They want to cut SS, which would ultimately result in far more homeless old people, but they don't care.
@@vsanden Because the world can not support 10.2 Billion people for very long.
@@odonnelly46agreed we are intelligent enough to kick the can down the road but eventually you come up on limitations. The stress on natural resources with this kind of population eventually reaches a breaking point. Our appetite to consume knows no end. Humanity has always operated better in small tight knit communities. This decentralized individualistic approach simply doesn't produce people of good quality or character.
Men don't want to get married governments don't want to help families if you could fix those there might be enough babies I had two husbands both had low sperm counts I got pregnant 5 times. The thing that took exhausting effort was finding someone that wanted to be a husband d and fathers and the getting the resources to take care of the children.
If it were cheaper to have children and men were not allergic to marriage and parenthood we .at not have a problem.
I wanted to be a father , but like most men my age I have up on the idea. I haven't met a woman I would even Want to date in a decade.
@@maryanncrody4867the antihistamine is removing government and financial penalties. Also mandatory paternity test
@@DeadCat-42 It sounds like you need to lower your expectations and seek a mate within your league. A decade is a very long time. It's probably about time to start judging yourself more than you judge others.
@kp8972 I did , I wanted a good, faithful, kind and decent women who wasn't morbidly obese.
I lowered my expectations to , not morbidly obese. .
Seriously all of what is going in American society today is really just out of our control. Acceptance is the first step for living a content life.
No its rly not accepting which is the first step to a content life. We dont want to accept ourselves and to get out of our comfort zone we have to face ourselves and see ourselves accuritely which means our sense of self is going to have to go out the window and we will have to face an existential crisis. So why do that why accept yourself if you can live contend in a fantasy. Its not that we think this conciously its more like we think we want to get out because we dont like it, but we dont want to get out because we dont want to face the sunken cost fallacy of all the pride we have invested into our sense of self and everything that proves it otherwise is dissmissed which turns into cognitive dissonance.
These trends are global. They aren’t confined to a single country or continent.
This explains why we have this Trans generation in America. This level of sexual identity confusion is at an all time high. Only magnifying the infertility problem. It needs to be destroyed like a malignant cancer, or we’ll be extinct sooner than later.
No. Moving away is the first step.
Yup. It’s just a cycle that societies go through.
Population decline is such a simple math. It's NOT financially responsible for 99% of couples to have children, in first world countries. And it's due, predominantly, to predatory capitalism and income inequality. It's out of control. I have two adult children. Both of them are gainfully employed. Both of them have told me not to expect grandchildren until the economy settles into something viable for raising children. And both of them are concerned about climate change, war, disease, and in general, civilization falling apart. And I cannot find a rational argument against their concerns.
Full disclosure. I am a capitalist since I have owned my own business and had employees. It's out of control capitalism that I speak of here. It's akin to allowing an over population of predators into an ecosystem. They have over hunted and, frankly, are 💩-ing all over the planet! Who in their right mind would bear children in this mess? I'll tell you who will. People who lack an understanding of what it takes to properly raise children! Bad parents make for bad children. Uncivilized even. And this is where we find ourselves. The collapse of civilization is all around us. And it's occurring on two fronts. Uncivilized adults are having more and more uncivilized children. And civilized adults are choosing to not have children. Within 5 years there will, predominantly, be mostly uncivilized young adults. In fact, I am observing this now! Social Media has encouraged, and programmed, the last two generations into full blown narcissists! You cannot maintain CIVILIZATION with an abundance of narcissists! Why? Because at their core, they only care for themselves. And Civilization requires most of its citizens to be thinking of things outside of themselves. Specifically the well being of other people within their local and National population. We are, most likely, bearing witness to the beginning of the end of Civilization itself. Think I'm overreacting? Go to any major city, in any first world country, and tell me you do not see this decline happening? Where I live it is even beginning in the towns and countryside!
I fear for my children's future. Any rational parent, in this man made mess, should.
Bullshit. Population decline is caused by one thing. Feminism. Feminism has made women avoid getting married or have children. More and more women are waiting too long to get married or start looking for a husband. Trust me. Most men want to get married and have children. But most men cannot find suitable women. Women who are actively looking for a husband. Most men are too afraid to even approach women now, because women have become hostile to most men. The only men who are having a good time now are the tall, good looking men.
I'm worried about it all. It also affects other species. Industries are clearly a major culprit in that issue. A few greedy people replacing healthy products with artificial trash are literally ruining the future for short term profit but in the end, even them will fail to survive while they're ruining everything alive. But do they even care?
Tbh it's better for the planet if we die lol
@@cd-ee9mf You go first.
@@cd-ee9mf Your wet dream is being plotted by technocrats. Everything will be electronic. Electronic trees. Electronic rodents. Electronic humans. You'll be happy. Extinct, but happy.
You're insane!!
@@christinarichie6171 I return you the compliment, fool.
I get annoyed when people cry about the falling birth rate. These people should adopt a child, donate money to help children living in poverty, or at least feed a hungry child. We should work on increasing the survival rate of children.
For the record, a decline of 1% per annum for 50 years is a decline of 39.5% over 50 years. That;s still horrendous of course.
Really it isn't 1% per year. It is 50% over 50 years, so it is the worse number.
It’s not lack of sex, men don’t want to be fathers. A family cost a lot of money!
Men are cheaters. Who has time for that? Not me. Childfree for life.
Especially when she leaves you. 😢
@@Technotranceism
That's the problem, you called it not money not abuse. Just she does not want it anymore!
and women abort them whether the guy knows about it or not...
@@ex8722Most women who don’t want kids take measures to prevent pregnancy before it happens.
I'm 28 years old there's no more joy in life I'm just bored just wake up , work , come home, make dinner , sleep, repeat . I don't think I can last another 30 years like this before hopefully something takes me out
Join a band.
People in 1940s even the rich were poorer from todats standard. Its the stupid education system that has made people stupid with no common sense no maturity.
The King 100 years ago had a living standard lower than a common man with hot water and comfortable modes of communication +++. Watch movie "Idiocracy".
Try to get some therapy, it really can help.
This breaks my heart. Did you have anything that fascinated you when you were a kid? Hobbies? Sports? Could you join a club?
I agree about talking to a doc…. Untreated depression will just wreck you, and it’s NOT a character flaw. Just chemistry.
Staying out of the comment sections is helpful… they’re toxic cesspools that can break your faith in humanity.
Drop it all and immigrate. It’s scary but what do you have to loose. I’ve traveled all over the country and world with no money. Just figuring it out. If one lace starts to get to stagnant where I feel stuck I move on. I eventually landed in a place I didn’t want to move from, and it’s been 18 years here very happy. It’s mentally stimulating, and just learning languages and having good stories creates work opportunities. What else do you have to lose?
The baby boom was unnatural. So now it has to go back to normal.
Lack of self awareness, self respect and mindfulness is the reason why the world we live full of low vibration being, so lets rise our vibration, respect each other, being kind and wise.
Vibration. 😂
@elmersicllacanales1441 brahhh I'm crying 💀
In 1900, there were just over 1 billion people in the world, and look at how incredibly rich the culture was back then. Returning to that population level will create more space for everyone, including wildlife and nature. Today's cities are overcrowded and full of stress, there is a lack of open countryside, traffic and construction is almost everywhere.
Sure, maybe if the Idiocracy wasn't doing the majority of the reproduction.
There are so many towns that are barely hanging on. There are plenty of places to live but no jobs or employment nearby.
your facts are wrong
@@beachdweller3378 That doesn't contradict what I wrote. People are moving to cities, places are being abandoned, but that has a marginal effect on overpopulation and total built-up area.
@@martinhovorka69 Sounds like you need to move.
Children of Men (2006) was definitely the most realistic apocalypse scenario
Except in real life we are creating this problem intentionally.
@@rithahhear509They never addressed what caused infertility in the movie.
Que?
I had my ten-year high school reunion last year and it really made me think on this. Out of our graduating class of almost 400, only a handful of use had kids and we're all 29 or 30 now. Then think about this across all developed nations and I see it is a real issue. This will defiantly blindside us on many levels
Inflation and taxes are the main enemy of families.
And sex trafficking, human trafficking plays a role in all of this.
Inflation comes and goes when things are in balance which is rare these days and is now a reflection of rich men’s greed, as corporations need/cause inflation to feed and grow their profits which helps juice their stock price and satisfy shareholders expectations and desire for wealth. As for taxes, perhaps a workable solution would be no tax for incomes under say, maybe $150,000/year per taxpayer or $250,000 per household/family of four and a flat 12% tax for everything above that exemption amount with no write offs or deductions for anything else except perhaps education & medical which is essentially how it is for some low income earners who don’t hold financial assets. End ALL lobbying by corporate and religious institutions, overturn Citizens United, institute taxpayer financed campaigns where all candidates receive the same amount of money to level the playing field, put a hard cap on campaign on any/all political spending - prohibit private and corporate money, clean up SCOTUS and place strict standards of ethics and code of conduct with accountability and stringent penalties along with term limits, strip religion from every office of government, returning to the Constitutional provision and remove phrase “under God” from pledge of Allegiance.
Taxes are only a problem if you're well off.
On the plus side: Birth rate reduction is one of the best low tech approaches to reducing global greenhouse gas emissions and thus limiting the future effects of climate change. Also as the earth's climate changes, the maximum human carrying capacity of the earth will drop significantly. A decreasing human population might be a blessing that will minimize global rates of starvation and other future climate change negatives.
As long as you are prepared for a decline in the standard of living that comes with less workforce meaningnot enough peoplei less desirable occupations,less for aged care health carelow paid jobs like sanitation etc. Artificial intelligence and robots will become the majority ethnic class and humans will become irrelevant.
Politics is why there is starvation not because the earth cannot produce the food.
Can't have problems when there are no humans left to have them. Smooth brain take.
HEY GUIS I GOT IT IF EVERYONE IZ DED WE DONT HAVE PROBLEMS!
Only if people don't migrate to more energy expensive societies, e.g. to USA
I am surprised they talk about plastic and cosmetics, but they didn't mention yet, birth control pills for women and the fact that men hold their phone in their pocket, next to their genitals, with the wifi turned on. I'll keep watching to see if they mention them. It would be a pity not to.
Birth control was the first mass movement towards trans humanism. Trying to move past the natural processes of the body because we know better than god and nature
We've gone from a traditional society to the complete opposite called a modern society the problem is that greed and control has gotten out of control the more expensive everything is the less likely people will end up in relationships and get married have children this is all being done on purpose by governments banks globalists and the elites without a society worshipping our father in heaven the collapse has begun we're in serious trouble we need God we need traditional society traditional rolls back in society feminism is a huge problem and a enemy for all women ur also seeing the destruction of the family unit and the destruction of masculinity agenda
Or..porn...
Exactly. Birth control chemicals showing up in drinking water has to be one more chemical castrator.
four answers. i can't see ANY of them😅😅😅
She is a fantastic scientist. Glad you intervied Ms Swan. We as a society close our eyes to this human disaster. It's too scary to contemplate