@@kenroycherrington148 it wasn’t about power it was about versatility and smarts. Yes Vulcan destroys almost anyone but he uses his power has a hammer where has Storm uses her power as a chisel.
@@natecward8322 yep nobody except if they know how to move around her power like Sunspot. The other was the Fisherking who challenged her to understand Loss.
She didn’t just drop him, she schooled him on the difference not only between omega power, but her power versus all comers… her speech was one of legend and out of all the dialogue you read, you leave THAT speech out? That was the money shot.
@@IllJoy not for the comics. perhaps the studios can get caught up in modern day social politics, but it’s not at all worth focusing on. They do a great job telling good stories.
People not understanding what storm has been capable of this hold time emphasizes how overlooked marvel has made seem her time and time again. Her capabilities have been hinted at since she her conception and for the first time we finally see it in full glory and people are claiming BS? Lame
Gabriel Summers will be the main villain in Season 2 of X-Men 97 because they'll adapt Deadly Genesis, Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire, and Emperor Vulcan.
Too early to be S2 villain but they are definitely setting up these plotlines. S2 main villain will be most likely the person or group behind the Genosha Massacre
@@tickleyourmom7250 deciding to narrorate from the perspective of a certain character as though they're telling a story from the outside is a trope good enough to separate themselves from the other pages. But you right I was dick eating a little bit lol
i understand her abilites to control basically the energy of mother nature itself but how was she able to physically subdue him by grabbing him by the throat does her abilites also give her super strength or something
not really. at least not directly. it’s not apart of her usual move set, but her powers can likely give the effect of super strength. whether it’s hurricane force winds behind her fist or just literally manipulating the air pressure surrounding his throat. her powers allow her to do that, because she is literally just controlling micro weather patterns to win fights without having to rain hail on him lol. casual, to her at least.
@@pacmiller7564 you just seen her do it in this video, and there’s a decade worth of comics where she uses her powers creatively. you’re not gonna get your answers from me, kisses
how the heck one goes from being a ultra omega level treat who conquer the whole shiar empire and made X men buckle down on their knees to get slapped away like a mere bug.
The same type of terrible writing that made jubilee a vampire, made the phoenix force a present from oprah, everyone gets one and made thors hammer a bargain bin item for just about anyone
The thing is Vulcan defeated Gladiator literally an issue before this by manipulating energy is Gladiator's body or something. So Vulcan should have been able to do something about Storm's lighting and blizzard attacks, because those are energy. Storm being OP is cool, but you can see the writer's bias whenever she fights.
It doesn't change the fact that writers are biased and her fights are boring. She does the sneak lighting attack to end the fight in a panel. Or she talks about how "battle between omega mutants are about attrition" and end the fight in a panel. She's pretty much Marvel's "Batman with preptime" nowadays.
I love Storm but this doesn’t make any sense. With Vulcans ability to absorb most forms of energy, including kinetic energy. This should’ve been a bad matchup for Storm. There’s nothing she can throw at him to hurt him.
Weather manipulation is not Storm's power. It's just how her powers manifest. Most of her abilities seemingly have nothing to do with each other. For example, ALL of Vulkan's powers can be explained by the Summer's energy manipulation mutation. Wolverine's enhanced senses and stamina aren't separate powers. They're side effects of his healing factor. Point is, we have no idea what baseline mutation allows Storm to control so many different forces. It's almost like she's a reality warper. We've seen her control solar system destroying "cosmic storms" yet... Cosmic storms aren't weather. We have no idea what she's actually controlling that lets her do Phoenix level stuff but, its not just wind and electricity.
@@similaritiesendherei agree these i always felt like there was something missing and unsurity about her mutation, powerset, potential like she is1. a mutant, 2. She can manipulate the weather okay but its also said that many woman in her family-line can do it is her power hereditary, 3. I think it was mentioned the way she access it is a bit different but how in a new comic with wanda where they went to another planet she saw the magic whatever that wanda could not see, 5. That whole doom saga when she became light itself like.... 😮😅
@@JustInfiniteUA-cam There are omega level mutants who can only control one of the fundamental forces of nature that Storm can. To generate wind, Storm controls temperature differentials in the atmosphere (Iceman). Electrical currents generate magnetic fields (Magneto). When she pulls water out of the atmosphere, is she controlling matter at the molecular (Molecule Man)?
@@JustInfiniteUA-cam Storm seems to be a reality warper who thinks that her power is weather control because of tribal tradition. If Wanda had been raised in Storm's place she'd probably be using her reality warping to make rain for the village. Wanda would think her powers were weather control. I'm sure that the official explanation will be different but, the point of Storm's powers going way beyond weather control is confirmed. Speaking of Wanda, Colossus' sister, "Magik" also has mutant powers that tap into "magic".
@@similaritiesendherewell no because regardless of that storm used energy in this comic to defeat someone who can manipulate energy at an omega level I’ve seen some comments trying to defend this and it’s very bad writing I’m happy she won the fight because I think storm is so underrated but they picked literally the worst character for her to beat but again this is just lazy writing
Dumb question or thought :but honestly the writers confuse me sometimes like for me if most say the battle does not make sense and vulcan should have won because many feel like the writers are overhyping storm...okay, but if it where the case i would have wrote it like this and if i really wanted storm to win i would have 1. Used her power to create a vacuum and suck out all the air around him, That thing she did in wakanda where she manipulated the air around that soldier. Instead of using just ice used a combination of ice and creating a hurricane to draw out any oxygen and basically freeze dry him😢😂
Yeah, this was bull. I mean I am down for them making Storm look like the badass she is. But they made a guy who conquered the whole Shi'ar empire, made the X-Men bow down, drained Gladiator in a blink, beat Black Bolt with his own flash burn off, and beat Adam Warlock among other big crazy things look weak as sh*t. I do get he wasn't in his right made so it kinda makes sense, and their second fight helped Storm in playing him strategically to win. But they did Vulcan so dirty in this X-Men Red run, from Storm beating him so quickly to him suddenly having a weakness to getting wet and lost all his power in their second fight. And recently he was enslaved to Apocalypse, and used to power a spell to help Storm.
That's not true actually. They didn't depower Vulcan. They just treated the rest of the characters fairly. Also in S.W.O.R.D issue 9 and 10. The Lethal Legion easily overpowered the Imperial Guards and defeated them, but Storm onshotted them.. So its not about depowering Vulcan. Its respecting Storm and her capabilities. She can do everything he can and more. She is also a high energy manipulator y'know.
@@afro_princess1671 I didn't say they depowered Vulcan and I'm talking about Storm, who only one-shot two guys and froze another while the others fought. Then a small army of The Lethal Legion showed up, and Storm had to push her powers to the point her nose started to bleed to take them out fast. Plus the Lethal Legion knew the Imperial Guards weaknesses, so thy were able to take them out fast because of that. It should be noted that when Storm and the X-Men faced Gladiator and the Imperial Guard they needed help to beat them. But either way, and again I'm all for showing how awesome Storm really is. Cause they've down played her way way to often. And I get Vulcan wasn't right, so he wasn't 100% the same guy that did what he did. But they give him a weakness he doesn't have, in getting wet and all his power was gone like that. Sorry, and not trying to be a jerk or anything. But its actually the other way around, he can do everything she can to and more. His an Omega level energy manipulator and is said to actual be past Omega. He can absorb any thing she throws at him and drain her, he can also shutoff her powers. Her mutant and magic abilities (tho they aren't really anything big yet) are nothing new to him and nothing he hasn't easily beaten.
@@afro_princess1671no lmao Vulcan has the ability to absorb and manipulate all energy and storm beat him with energy so plz don’t argue this I like the comic and I like storm winning the fight but this is just a case of the writers ignoring characters powers/power levels to get there story across
@@afro_princess1671their powers are fundamentally different the fact that storm stopped him in his tracks is wild. That’s like sentry level of physical strength and storm doesn’t have that much. Not to mention he has an ability to drain an energy users source of power and storm has never shown that capability makes it even more unnerving
With stories being more agenda driven. Storm wins by just grabbing him. So it shows she can do it up close. Or something along those lines. Now to watch the video to see what happens.
@dillydill3895 & @natecward8322 Overloading Vulcan would be.......trite (Then, he shouldn't have beat Warlock if that's the case)! He's a bad guy but, logically, Vulcan should win. Vulcan, from what I gather, can use water to energy and, every creatures including mutants have energy, he should beat Storm actually!
That what I said Vulcan should of beat Storm he can turn off your brain pattern And he can suppress mutant energy which means he can turn off your powers Writer Al Ewing over power storm made It seems nobody could beat her in battle Everybody must lose sometime in order To tell a good story But writer Al Ewing made it seems storm can t lose to nobody Not good writing
Vulcan is an unstable man child (literally) who uses his power like a hammer, that's why he lost to another omega energy manipulator with decades more experience. He's a jack of all trades master of none and good luck trying to use moisture against Storm... didn't end so well for the literal embodiment of moisture (Iceman).
@@justthevoicebackup280 Again, if he controlled his temper, Vulcan could beat Storm: energy is in human, mutants, and animals, and he can convert lighting and water into energy
Storm is an omega that controls the weather. Theres plenty interesting without making her solo everyone just because shes black. Soon she'll solo galactus and thanos with a scowl because shes just bada**, right? So patronizing. No stakes
Shes a goddess. If iceman or Jean can freeze hel or control the phoneix whats stopping a literal goddess from being a cosmic threat? just because shes black and a womanyou think. no shes omega. Mf Gambit and cable get to be Omega and OP and they literally keep themselves from reaching thier full potential and i hear no complaints
You just mad a black woman beat a white man you might want to reapply cause you have a lil bit of racism showing an i don’t want to here nothing about oh why you bring that in to this you where the one that mention her being black she’s a goddess an also a omega level threat same as him an she’s reaching her potential an only thing you mad at is her skin color smh
you’re argument is automatically invalid once you brought race into it. she’s literally stated to be on the power level of the phoenix WITHOUT having the phoenix. she’s finally getting her just dues and y’all are mad asf
Your argument is absurd. By your logic we can't have any OP black character then because it'lll trigger you lol. Storm is not only an omega level but a descendant of a long line of very powerful mages. Her powers evolved over time. It is absolutely plausible even if you don't like it.
Yea Storm during X-men Red soloed everyone who messed with her. And it was amazing to read.
Overloading Vulcan would be.......trite (Then, he shouldn't have beat Warlock if that's the case)! He's a bad guy but, logically, Vulcan should win.
She didnt! It was one that they didnt show what happened in the comics and it was with ISCA THE UNBEATEN 😡 Apocalypse’s sister in-law
@@matterspacetime4832 Nobody can beat Isca tho, but Sunspot did kinda beat her.
@@kenroycherrington148 it wasn’t about power it was about versatility and smarts. Yes Vulcan destroys almost anyone but he uses his power has a hammer where has Storm uses her power as a chisel.
@@natecward8322 yep nobody except if they know how to move around her power like Sunspot. The other was the Fisherking who challenged her to understand Loss.
"no thrones on araggko, pass it on" storm really emanates the force of nature
We got so many great Storm moments in X-Men Red
She cooked bro so fast gahdamn and she grabbed his thought too he’s done 😂😂😂
Throat* my guy
@@ivanriverajr5012 I was typing to fast I seen it but I couldn’t correct it I was in too deep 💀
@@jon_ovo3653 my guy was way too deep in the throat
I see people still don't understand how Vulcan got his ass handed to him by Storm.
Yes, we do. It’s called plot armor. Batman wears it all the time.
@@a1wayzontop😂
She didn’t just drop him, she schooled him on the difference not only between omega power, but her power versus all comers… her speech was one of legend and out of all the dialogue you read, you leave THAT speech out? That was the money shot.
surprised she didnt add in something against the patriarchy
@@IllJoy why would she? This was a discussion about mutant power not gender ideology.
@@peterjaketalkswrasslin6920 its current day Marvel need I say more?
@@IllJoy not for the comics. perhaps the studios can get caught up in modern day social politics, but it’s not at all worth focusing on. They do a great job telling good stories.
@@peterjaketalkswrasslin6920 right. . . . . I'll agree to disagree then leave it @ that.
Vulcan got straight clapped
Yeah, he stand
no chance with woke writting.
@boredalot X-Men are based on chattel slavery, and the Civil Rights Movement, doesn't get more "woke" than that
People not understanding what storm has been capable of this hold time emphasizes how overlooked marvel has made seem her time and time again. Her capabilities have been hinted at since she her conception and for the first time we finally see it in full glory and people are claiming BS? Lame
Gabriel Summers will be the main villain in Season 2 of X-Men 97 because they'll adapt Deadly Genesis, Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire, and Emperor Vulcan.
How do you know ?
That would be sweet, I love Vulcan he’s a dawg
@@kyndellhardy2791 yeah, an Unhinged Dawg at that.
Too early to be S2 villain but they are definitely setting up these plotlines. S2 main villain will be most likely the person or group behind the Genosha Massacre
@@mawinstallation6626 it's Mr. Sinister, he told Bolivar Trask to activate the wild sentinel and wipe out nearly all of Genosha in Episode 6.
Am loving this amazimg❤ the way the stories narrated
Here before 1million subs. At 1.5k actually. 100k by June garunteed.
trippin lol
@@tickleyourmom7250 deciding to narrorate from the perspective of a certain character as though they're telling a story from the outside is a trope good enough to separate themselves from the other pages. But you right I was dick eating a little bit lol
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i understand her abilites to control basically the energy of mother nature itself but how was she able to physically subdue him by grabbing him by the throat does her abilites also give her super strength or something
not really. at least not directly. it’s not apart of her usual move set, but her powers can likely give the effect of super strength. whether it’s hurricane force winds behind her fist or just literally manipulating the air pressure surrounding his throat. her powers allow her to do that, because she is literally just controlling micro weather patterns to win fights without having to rain hail on him lol. casual, to her at least.
@@gullytheharbinger8619I don't think her using her powers for super strength was ever mentioned.
@@pacmiller7564 did you want me to retype my message or just dumb it down?
@@gullytheharbinger8619 Nah I understood what you said short bus and as I said she never used her powers that way
@@pacmiller7564 you just seen her do it in this video, and there’s a decade worth of comics where she uses her powers creatively. you’re not gonna get your answers from me, kisses
how the heck one goes from being a ultra omega level treat who conquer the whole shiar empire and made X men buckle down on their knees to get slapped away like a mere bug.
The same type of terrible writing that made jubilee a vampire, made the phoenix force a present from oprah, everyone gets one and made thors hammer a bargain bin item for just about anyone
The thing is Vulcan defeated Gladiator literally an issue before this by manipulating energy is Gladiator's body or something. So Vulcan should have been able to do something about Storm's lighting and blizzard attacks, because those are energy. Storm being OP is cool, but you can see the writer's bias whenever she fights.
@@shotenabiFacts
@@Snada547storm is omega level and a magic user, Vulcan doesn’t stand a chance lol
It doesn't change the fact that writers are biased and her fights are boring. She does the sneak lighting attack to end the fight in a panel. Or she talks about how "battle between omega mutants are about attrition" and end the fight in a panel. She's pretty much Marvel's "Batman with preptime" nowadays.
Damn if storm is this powerful then imagine how strong Magneto is bc he channeled her powers and Blue Marvel into him and sustained it like wtf 🤯
Honestly with his powers he should have won
Not really. Storm is basically the avatar she can replicate his powers same with magnetos
He don't have the necessary skin color and gender to win.
@@boredalotAh yes because we know white people and men never win 😂
I love Storm but this doesn’t make any sense. With Vulcans ability to absorb most forms of energy, including kinetic energy. This should’ve been a bad matchup for Storm. There’s nothing she can throw at him to hurt him.
Weather manipulation is not Storm's power. It's just how her powers manifest. Most of her abilities seemingly have nothing to do with each other.
For example, ALL of Vulkan's powers can be explained by the Summer's energy manipulation mutation. Wolverine's enhanced senses and stamina aren't separate powers. They're side effects of his healing factor.
Point is, we have no idea what baseline mutation allows Storm to control so many different forces. It's almost like she's a reality warper. We've seen her control solar system destroying "cosmic storms" yet...
Cosmic storms aren't weather. We have no idea what she's actually controlling that lets her do Phoenix level stuff but, its not just wind and electricity.
@@similaritiesendherei agree these i always felt like there was something missing and unsurity about her mutation, powerset, potential like she is1. a mutant, 2. She can manipulate the weather okay but its also said that many woman in her family-line can do it is her power hereditary, 3. I think it was mentioned the way she access it is a bit different but how in a new comic with wanda where they went to another planet she saw the magic whatever that wanda could not see, 5. That whole doom saga when she became light itself like.... 😮😅
@@JustInfiniteUA-cam There are omega level mutants who can only control one of the fundamental forces of nature that Storm can.
To generate wind, Storm controls temperature differentials in the atmosphere (Iceman). Electrical currents generate magnetic fields (Magneto). When she pulls water out of the atmosphere, is she controlling matter at the molecular (Molecule Man)?
@@JustInfiniteUA-cam Storm seems to be a reality warper who thinks that her power is weather control because of tribal tradition. If Wanda had been raised in Storm's place she'd probably be using her reality warping to make rain for the village. Wanda would think her powers were weather control.
I'm sure that the official explanation will be different but, the point of Storm's powers going way beyond weather control is confirmed. Speaking of Wanda, Colossus' sister, "Magik" also has mutant powers that tap into "magic".
@@similaritiesendherewell no because regardless of that storm used energy in this comic to defeat someone who can manipulate energy at an omega level I’ve seen some comments trying to defend this and it’s very bad writing I’m happy she won the fight because I think storm is so underrated but they picked literally the worst character for her to beat but again this is just lazy writing
Despite the outcomes LEGION always wins.
Didn't he lose to Nate?
Dumb question or thought :but honestly the writers confuse me sometimes like for me if most say the battle does not make sense and vulcan should have won because many feel like the writers are overhyping storm...okay, but if it where the case i would have wrote it like this and if i really wanted storm to win i would have 1. Used her power to create a vacuum and suck out all the air around him, That thing she did in wakanda where she manipulated the air around that soldier. Instead of using just ice used a combination of ice and creating a hurricane to draw out any oxygen and basically freeze dry him😢😂
He would have manipulated the energy of that hurricane and defused it.
Yeah, this was bull. I mean I am down for them making Storm look like the badass she is. But they made a guy who conquered the whole Shi'ar empire, made the X-Men bow down, drained Gladiator in a blink, beat Black Bolt with his own flash burn off, and beat Adam Warlock among other big crazy things look weak as sh*t. I do get he wasn't in his right made so it kinda makes sense, and their second fight helped Storm in playing him strategically to win. But they did Vulcan so dirty in this X-Men Red run, from Storm beating him so quickly to him suddenly having a weakness to getting wet and lost all his power in their second fight. And recently he was enslaved to Apocalypse, and used to power a spell to help Storm.
That's not true actually. They didn't depower Vulcan. They just treated the rest of the characters fairly.
Also in S.W.O.R.D issue 9 and 10. The Lethal Legion easily overpowered the Imperial Guards and defeated them, but Storm onshotted them..
So its not about depowering Vulcan. Its respecting Storm and her capabilities. She can do everything he can and more. She is also a high energy manipulator y'know.
@@afro_princess1671 I didn't say they depowered Vulcan and I'm talking about Storm, who only one-shot two guys and froze another while the others fought. Then a small army of The Lethal Legion showed up, and Storm had to push her powers to the point her nose started to bleed to take them out fast. Plus the Lethal Legion knew the Imperial Guards weaknesses, so thy were able to take them out fast because of that. It should be noted that when Storm and the X-Men faced Gladiator and the Imperial Guard they needed help to beat them. But either way, and again I'm all for showing how awesome Storm really is. Cause they've down played her way way to often. And I get Vulcan wasn't right, so he wasn't 100% the same guy that did what he did. But they give him a weakness he doesn't have, in getting wet and all his power was gone like that.
Sorry, and not trying to be a jerk or anything. But its actually the other way around, he can do everything she can to and more. His an Omega level energy manipulator and is said to actual be past Omega. He can absorb any thing she throws at him and drain her, he can also shutoff her powers. Her mutant and magic abilities (tho they aren't really anything big yet) are nothing new to him and nothing he hasn't easily beaten.
@@afro_princess1671no lmao Vulcan has the ability to absorb and manipulate all energy and storm beat him with energy so plz don’t argue this I like the comic and I like storm winning the fight but this is just a case of the writers ignoring characters powers/power levels to get there story across
Yeah, I've never understood the whole STROM omega level thing. I'm if she's omega then magneto should be as well
@@afro_princess1671their powers are fundamentally different the fact that storm stopped him in his tracks is wild. That’s like sentry level of physical strength and storm doesn’t have that much. Not to mention he has an ability to drain an energy users source of power and storm has never shown that capability makes it even more unnerving
It's getting past time to deal with Brand....
did cable actually die
With stories being more agenda driven. Storm wins by just grabbing him. So it shows she can do it up close. Or something along those lines. Now to watch the video to see what happens.
@dillydill3895 &
@natecward8322 Overloading Vulcan would be.......trite (Then, he shouldn't have beat Warlock if that's the case)! He's a bad guy but, logically, Vulcan should win. Vulcan, from what I gather, can use water to energy and, every creatures including mutants have energy, he should beat Storm actually!
That what I said Vulcan should of beat
Storm he can turn off your brain pattern
And he can suppress mutant energy which means he can turn off your powers
Writer Al Ewing over power storm made
It seems nobody could beat her in battle
Everybody must lose sometime in order
To tell a good story
But writer Al Ewing made it seems storm can t lose to nobody
Not good writing
Cry about it.
@@StormTheeOmega FACETIOUS!
Vulcan is an unstable man child (literally) who uses his power like a hammer, that's why he lost to another omega energy manipulator with decades more experience. He's a jack of all trades master of none and good luck trying to use moisture against Storm... didn't end so well for the literal embodiment of moisture (Iceman).
@@justthevoicebackup280 Again, if he controlled his temper, Vulcan could beat Storm: energy is in human, mutants, and animals, and he can convert lighting and water into energy
"Don't call him that", says Vulcan about himself...your grammatical changes do not make sense.
Agent 47 ?
......more cable please.......
storm won because of PLOT ARMOR.
Batman is proud of her 😂
Shut up 😂
still won, cry more 🤭
damn fucking woke culture.
Non Sense
Storm has no durability this is so cap lol
Storm is an omega that controls the weather. Theres plenty interesting without making her solo everyone just because shes black. Soon she'll solo galactus and thanos with a scowl because shes just bada**, right? So patronizing. No stakes
Shes a goddess. If iceman or Jean can freeze hel or control the phoneix whats stopping a literal goddess from being a cosmic threat? just because shes black and a womanyou think. no shes omega. Mf Gambit and cable get to be Omega and OP and they literally keep themselves from reaching thier full potential and i hear no complaints
You just mad a black woman beat a white man you might want to reapply cause you have a lil bit of racism showing an i don’t want to here nothing about oh why you bring that in to this you where the one that mention her being black she’s a goddess an also a omega level threat same as him an she’s reaching her potential an only thing you mad at is her skin color smh
you’re argument is automatically invalid once you brought race into it. she’s literally stated to be on the power level of the phoenix WITHOUT having the phoenix. she’s finally getting her just dues and y’all are mad asf
Your argument is absurd. By your logic we can't have any OP black character then because it'lll trigger you lol. Storm is not only an omega level but a descendant of a long line of very powerful mages. Her powers evolved over time. It is absolutely plausible even if you don't like it.
Lol. So when Jean and Wanda do it it's okay because they aren't black? I hope your hatred rots you from the inside.
I love your voice
it's A.I.
I think it’s ai Morgan freeman lol