That actually works. Played as Russia in HPM and treaty port war with china every 5 years and subsequent war reparations were the only thing keeping my budget in the green.
Last time one of their divisions got stopped by a bunch of vietnamese school girls. We just need to force vietnam into making anime, so we will have magical vietnamese girls irl
@@luansagara They already did. If you look at the credit of recent decade Japanese animated shows, it's full of Vietnamese names, because the studios export a lot of their works there. Also Chinese division stopped by anything during their war is largely propaganda. The Chinese divisions stopped their advance deliberately, occupied territories and retreated in order, despite losses. If you look at the result of their conflicts, Vietnam lost a lot of ground, including historical border passes. These were concession made to China after they found themselves unable to regain these grounds.
@@truwu8177 Basically china is pretty strong in this mod which is what the chinese govt wants and ben shapiro is a right winger and right wingers in general despise free healthcare as it is seen as a huge waste of resources. (I hope i do not cause a comment war)
I mean its a likely outcome. They were extremely conservative opposed to all reform dedicated to maintaining the old ways and then suddenly boom they’re the most modern society on the planet of course there’s going to be internal chaos
This is why the CCP is so paranoid. They know their vast geography and variety of culture will one day results in that situation. That's why they have to use an iron fist on any issues to ensure they remain in power, and why their propaganda and school system chant "better together" to all of their citizens. Asking any Chinese and they will tell you 1 China best China.
I'd say it's more because they didn't fight each others, in the endsieg video they were a lot playing, but all in the Axis, and it was pretty chill too
as Russia in 1860, i had to send all my army to China's borders to attack, occupy all of china until they have Reactionaries revolt. i mean as Russia, i managed to get to acceptable healthcare before 1850. with 200 brigades available.
PDX has outright admitted that Qing in the game is HEAVILY nerfed and explicitly railroaded with events to just outright die despite it not being true to reality, due to the game population system utterly breaking once the chinese population hits the simulation of the world market, as in, once Qing westernizes the game literally just ends because the economy for every nation hits rock bottom for eternity, hence their extremely heavy nerfs making them a joke and unplaybale aka, they are specifically designed to die, and this clip is a good example why
i tried playing the chinese once in vanilla victoria 2, i westernised by about 1900's and made 20K a day until 3 boxer rebellions events which raised 500K rebels in a row all over my country sent it crashing to a uncontrollable and bullshit feeling death.
@@desertdesmond6736 yep, it really sucks that pdx designed the game so badly that they had to literally gimp a nation to make it function right (they should have just disabled china from being playable, people try playing it without realizing its hardcoded to die no matter what, its not like EU4 burgundy where being a player prevented the death of the duke event, china in Vic 2 dies no matter what) ... that said, there are mods that make china playable, but those mods also rebalance a lot of the economy stuff so that china being western doesnt crash the simulation.... pdx should have just done those rebalances from the start tbh
@@XiaoYueMao burgundy doesn't disable the ruler death event? It might have in the past I wouldn't know that but the ruler fires just the same and just like the AI you have to deal with the Burgundian succession event chain. The AI is just coded to pick certain options more than others
@@goranpersson7726 it did before the burgundy event became an imperial crisis, the event never fired back when it was a one time event that instant split the entire nation between france and someone else (usually the emperor) ... now that its an imperial crisis with an entire chain involved it can fire as a player, but the player also has an option to not be partitioned or PU'd if they wish
That's only HPM and related mods not vanilla though. In Vanilla, China is EXTREMELY overpowered. You can westernize in like 10-15 years through swarming Vietnam, Japan and Korea with your unlimited peasant army and farming research points from them. Then you trounce everyone for the rest of the game because there isn't a warlord event to divide you and you have practically an unlimited amount of Soldier and Craftsmen POPs to skyrocket your military and industry.
Can't be. According to the glorious party separate warlords weren't a thing. If I remmber correctly they threw a fit vis a vis HoI because all the warlords were independent or something.
@@Blazo_Djurovic Yeah China banned HOI4 for two reasons lmao. One, they acknowledge the existence of the Chinese warlords prior to the CCP. Two, they called Taiwan "Taiwan" and China doesn't like that.
The people are protesting nothing happened at Rio In 1857 The healthcare protesters disappeared once the Brazilian army showed up In other news China has occupied Stockholm Along with formerly Chinese occupied north Vietnam has fallen to back under Spanish control
Interestingly, England has had a form of welfare system since 1601. Healthcare and poor relief was provided at a parish level through the Poor Law, which was available to anybody who needed it. In England, this was implemented to take over the role monasteries had in providing poor relief and medicine. English workhouses often had hospitals attached too, and these were used by so many people that in the 1880s, it no longer made you ineligible to vote to use a poor law hospital. Welfare is actually quite an ancient thing states do, it’s just welfare states that are modern
@@sicknastydabdab2711 the healthcare system we have in the U.K. began in its current form with the NHS in 1947. The Poor Law hospitals were available mostly for the poorest. However, until the NHS, voluntary and community hospitals actually provided decent coverage for most people, while the middle-class paid. The NHS was not founded because people couldn’t get access necessarily, though often the dependents of working class people found it a bit tricky in areas of poverty, but to equalise and make free all access.
@@faithnfire4769 to be fair, being a sailor wasn’t the worst fate. It sucked a lot but it meant that when you left the navy your skills were in high demand. There’s a reason many Europeans went to join the Barbary Corsairs in North Africa after leaving the navy
@@starguy321 Oh yeah, have to leave that out for the joke to work as well but there is a real bit of history there. Bit of a last chance way of getting into the job, but, if you had very little it was one of the few you could wind up a tradesperson rather than an unskilled laborer given enough experience.
This mod has such a expensive healthcare system to both prevent a person accessing those benefits despite putting no resources to it, but as well it gives money to POPs, helping to alleviate the Liquidity Crisis that happens late game. It’s probably one of the better mods I’ve played, it has a lot of nice features so you don’t just wait around as much.
@@RK-cj4oc Over time in the game, like 80% of all wealth is hoarded into the treasuries of all nations and there is no money given to POPs or factories or anything. No money to the POPs, they can’t buy goods, no goods sold mean factories lose money, and that generally means economic collapse that feeds into itself. Most mods have something that brings money out from AI treasuries to the economy so there’s not a Great Depression in the last 30 years.
So this was a fairly decent recreation of the War of the Ring. Everyone in decline, Mordor skyrocketing, no one believes Gondor, Gondor gets wrecked. Mordor suddenly ascends to near all powerful as a coalition forms at the last minute to fight... and then the ring goes in the volcano and Mordor implodes and Orc bands scatter across the land.
2:17 "We might have to manually de-stabilize China" Yes. We need to organize some sort of crisis. Now what do we use to cause a crisis? How about opioids?
China:i'll beat spain and become the biggest military in the worls by westernising 5 minutes later: y'all mind if i *breaks into millions of countries*
You guys don't actually need to pay fully for health care you can let it at 20% for the first level and every level after that requires +20% until you reach 100% spending for the benefits of the last reform.
"We could invade China to pay for our healthcare guys!"
- Emperor Pedrokoen II, founder of the Brazilian Health Service
Baseado
That actually works. Played as Russia in HPM and treaty port war with china every 5 years and subsequent war reparations were the only thing keeping my budget in the green.
SUS
Baseadíssimo
“Pedrokoen” that is underrated
“Your majesty, all of Europe just declared war on us!”
The Chinese emperor: “Good, then it is an even fight!”
"Your majesty, all of China has declared war on us!"
"Wait, no, thats illegal!"
So ended the Qing empire.
That’s unfortunate, for them.
"Shipmaster! We are outnumbered three to one."
All nations fire at will! Burn their mongrel hides!
Jokes aside this was literally the mindset of the qing government until the first opium war
"Your army isn't even funded, what's happening?"
"I don't have any money because of healthcare"
War is a leading cause of DEATH yes.
this mod was definitely made by a right winger
@@levytaxes1454 Right Wingers want China to be top dog? o_O
@@stephenjenkins7971 hey, it can be a chinese rightwinger lol
@@titanime3830 taiwanese developer
Swimmy at the end: "I'm being colonized" lol
run away, sir robin.....run away
China performing a brittish innit strategy
they pulled a brit on them
"Help help im being oppressed"
"They just seized North Vietnam"
not again!
As a Vietnammese this is not good (ヾ;￣▽￣)ヾ
Last time one of their divisions got stopped by a bunch of vietnamese school girls. We just need to force vietnam into making anime, so we will have magical vietnamese girls irl
@@luansagara Vietnammese anime is more cursed than a monarchist restoration of the Lê dynasty
Viet Cong Intensifies*
@@luansagara They already did. If you look at the credit of recent decade Japanese animated shows, it's full of Vietnamese names, because the studios export a lot of their works there.
Also Chinese division stopped by anything during their war is largely propaganda. The Chinese divisions stopped their advance deliberately, occupied territories and retreated in order, despite losses. If you look at the result of their conflicts, Vietnam lost a lot of ground, including historical border passes. These were concession made to China after they found themselves unable to regain these grounds.
This Mod was a collaboration, the chinese government made China and Ben Shapiro made the healthcare system.
okay that's actually funny
I am dumb I don't get it :(
@@truwu8177 Basically china is pretty strong in this mod which is what the chinese govt wants and ben shapiro is a right winger and right wingers in general despise free healthcare as it is seen as a huge waste of resources. (I hope i do not cause a comment war)
@@abdurrehmannasir5963 not a waste just a misallocation of scarce resources and an impairment on freedom.
@@robertblume2951 Interesting I get the misallocation part but can you explain the impairment on freedom? genuinely asking.
Swimmy's death wail of "I'm being colonize-" at the end just had me rolling. This episode was great.
He Said: "I'm Being Colonize- "
Wich Is Way Funnier Than "They're Colonizing Me"
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 ty for the correction (:
The counter colonization moment
The best part is when AI China declares on like half the world and sets itself up as the ultimate anime antagonist, it just instantly implodes.
China: becomes too powerful to be defeated by all western powers allied together
Also China: "lets split up gang!"
I mean its a likely outcome. They were extremely conservative opposed to all reform dedicated to maintaining the old ways and then suddenly boom they’re the most modern society on the planet of course there’s going to be internal chaos
The entire history of China colorized.
"China, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been."
_China is whole again_
_and then it broke again!_
This is why the CCP is so paranoid. They know their vast geography and variety of culture will one day results in that situation. That's why they have to use an iron fist on any issues to ensure they remain in power, and why their propaganda and school system chant "better together" to all of their citizens. Asking any Chinese and they will tell you 1 China best China.
that tiny little 'I'm being colonized :(" from Sweden at the very end really sent me over the edge
the pure dread in swimmy’s voice when he said “they westernized”
This video is chill af with the lower number of players I really enjoyed it
I was wondering why this one seemed so much better. That explains it.
Yeah the absence of absolute chaos was actually quite nice
too empty for my feel, it feels lonely if there arent other big players
I'd say it's more because they didn't fight each others, in the endsieg video they were a lot playing, but all in the Axis, and it was pretty chill too
@@antoinevirion5881 yeah I think you're right, the videos with a lot of teamwork and laughing are always the best
The century of humiliation exept China isn't the one getting humiliated.
China: "ah, call the ambulance!"
Europe: *visible confusion*
China: *Pulls out westernization* But not for me!"
1:26 Sweden: "We need to increase military spending, all the sudden people want health care."
USA: First time?
As someone who lives near a military base, (in usa,) I can confirm.
A Westernized China...that’s pretty interesting.
@Yourtuytr 2 in my games ai never did it cuz i was destabilizing it so much xd
as Russia in 1860, i had to send all my army to China's borders to attack, occupy all of china until they have Reactionaries revolt. i mean as Russia, i managed to get to acceptable healthcare before 1850. with 200 brigades available.
PDX has outright admitted that Qing in the game is HEAVILY nerfed and explicitly railroaded with events to just outright die despite it not being true to reality, due to the game population system utterly breaking once the chinese population hits the simulation of the world market, as in, once Qing westernizes the game literally just ends because the economy for every nation hits rock bottom for eternity, hence their extremely heavy nerfs making them a joke and unplaybale
aka, they are specifically designed to die, and this clip is a good example why
i tried playing the chinese once in vanilla victoria 2, i westernised by about 1900's and made 20K a day until 3 boxer rebellions events which raised 500K rebels in a row all over my country sent it crashing to a uncontrollable and bullshit feeling death.
@@desertdesmond6736 yep, it really sucks that pdx designed the game so badly that they had to literally gimp a nation to make it function right (they should have just disabled china from being playable, people try playing it without realizing its hardcoded to die no matter what, its not like EU4 burgundy where being a player prevented the death of the duke event, china in Vic 2 dies no matter what) ...
that said, there are mods that make china playable, but those mods also rebalance a lot of the economy stuff so that china being western doesnt crash the simulation.... pdx should have just done those rebalances from the start tbh
@@XiaoYueMao burgundy doesn't disable the ruler death event? It might have in the past I wouldn't know that but the ruler fires just the same and just like the AI you have to deal with the Burgundian succession event chain. The AI is just coded to pick certain options more than others
@@goranpersson7726 it did before the burgundy event became an imperial crisis, the event never fired back when it was a one time event that instant split the entire nation between france and someone else (usually the emperor) ... now that its an imperial crisis with an entire chain involved it can fire as a player, but the player also has an option to not be partitioned or PU'd if they wish
That's only HPM and related mods not vanilla though. In Vanilla, China is EXTREMELY overpowered. You can westernize in like 10-15 years through swarming Vietnam, Japan and Korea with your unlimited peasant army and farming research points from them. Then you trounce everyone for the rest of the game because there isn't a warlord event to divide you and you have practically an unlimited amount of Soldier and Craftsmen POPs to skyrocket your military and industry.
"When China awakes, it'll shake the whole world"
Napoleon B.
"Mother love me, long time, long time. Sucky Sucky fucky fucky Wonton Hong Kong, wonton"
- Confucius
@@Recut wtf, Confucius didn't say that
" He did Lmao what a n00b m8 ,get rekt"
- Lao Tze.
"Spanish or vanish"
- Julio cesar
@@Ronald98 Redditor.
Everyone: i dont fear anyone but that thing...
China westernizing
Everyone: It scares me
"Were the mod developers Chinese by any chance."
Alternative history sponsored by the CCP.
Whatever do you mean by *alternative?*
taiwan devs: CCP never existed what are you talking about?
Can't be. According to the glorious party separate warlords weren't a thing. If I remmber correctly they threw a fit vis a vis HoI because all the warlords were independent or something.
@@Blazo_Djurovic ah yes they are (laughs with a guy pointing a gun behind me)
@@Blazo_Djurovic Yeah China banned HOI4 for two reasons lmao. One, they acknowledge the existence of the Chinese warlords prior to the CCP. Two, they called Taiwan "Taiwan" and China doesn't like that.
0:46 "fiery but mostly peaceful protests" in the background there's people throwing Molotov cocktails
You can't just use a history documentary as a Victoria 2 video, Bokoen.
the US watching china become a superpower after 1946
@@now-semen-up "After 2010"
if you are watching soon after coming out this Bo is currently live on twitch.
"Its Populare"
Bokoen is not a reading guy.
tbf not his native language
@@spiderduckpig yeah but this channel has been up for how many years?
@@spiderduckpig what's his native language? I don't even know where he's from
@@CorvusLeukos he's from denmark
@@xxxdumbwordstupidnumberxxx4844 but denmark, i- it, doesn't exist!
The people are protesting nothing happened at Rio In 1857
The healthcare protesters disappeared once the Brazilian army showed up
In other news China has occupied Stockholm
Along with formerly Chinese occupied north Vietnam has fallen to back under Spanish control
Rio de Janeiro actually had a vaccine related revolt in 1904
3:18 “China will grow larger” is that a command and conquer: generals reference??
I thought the same, glad im not the only one
"I build for China!"
Battlemaster Tank, Reporting
@@j.v.8691 We Stand Together!
Star Wars : Empire at War video when 😳😳😳
this
YES THIS ONE KNOWS THE WAY!
Pog
In this game, we're watching Sun Yat-sen's wet dream. “If Japan could defeat Tsars, think of what modernized united China could achieve...”
Oh god imagine United Co-Prosperity Sphere led by China
But technically PRC right now is doing what you said
One Belt One Road initiative is an example
@@kohwenxu When that happens we can confidently say China’s a world superpower.
It would be under the qing in this game
@@kohwenxubut 100 years late, so essentially development is still 50 years behind compared to his wet dream.
China: *Westernizes*
Everyone: *Terrified screaming*
China: (also terrified screaming)
China: We've finally thrown off the yoke of the imperalists
Also China: *implodes*
Real Xinhai Revolution hours
Interestingly, England has had a form of welfare system since 1601. Healthcare and poor relief was provided at a parish level through the Poor Law, which was available to anybody who needed it. In England, this was implemented to take over the role monasteries had in providing poor relief and medicine. English workhouses often had hospitals attached too, and these were used by so many people that in the 1880s, it no longer made you ineligible to vote to use a poor law hospital. Welfare is actually quite an ancient thing states do, it’s just welfare states that are modern
Good old UK navy welfare as well. Drunkard? Homeless? Orphan? Don't worry we got your back, for the next ten years.
Didnt the "real" healthcare system that we think of today start in 1880s?
@@sicknastydabdab2711 the healthcare system we have in the U.K. began in its current form with the NHS in 1947. The Poor Law hospitals were available mostly for the poorest. However, until the NHS, voluntary and community hospitals actually provided decent coverage for most people, while the middle-class paid. The NHS was not founded because people couldn’t get access necessarily, though often the dependents of working class people found it a bit tricky in areas of poverty, but to equalise and make free all access.
@@faithnfire4769 to be fair, being a sailor wasn’t the worst fate. It sucked a lot but it meant that when you left the navy your skills were in high demand. There’s a reason many Europeans went to join the Barbary Corsairs in North Africa after leaving the navy
@@starguy321 Oh yeah, have to leave that out for the joke to work as well but there is a real bit of history there. Bit of a last chance way of getting into the job, but, if you had very little it was one of the few you could wind up a tradesperson rather than an unskilled laborer given enough experience.
Having driven past Dragons gate too many times makes it all funnier
Spain just chilling in Hanoi and out of fucking no where they see a big ass 300k army marching on them
*battle of wuhan intensifies*
From the creators of Mingsplosion, comes the long awaited sequel, Qingsplosion
"Healthcare turned out to be very expensive to implement." I'm shocked
@@ЦиганЦигански the good old days
This mod has such a expensive healthcare system to both prevent a person accessing those benefits despite putting no resources to it, but as well it gives money to POPs, helping to alleviate the Liquidity Crisis that happens late game.
It’s probably one of the better mods I’ve played, it has a lot of nice features so you don’t just wait around as much.
What is the liquidity crisis?
@@RK-cj4oc Over time in the game, like 80% of all wealth is hoarded into the treasuries of all nations and there is no money given to POPs or factories or anything. No money to the POPs, they can’t buy goods, no goods sold mean factories lose money, and that generally means economic collapse that feeds into itself. Most mods have something that brings money out from AI treasuries to the economy so there’s not a Great Depression in the last 30 years.
So this was a fairly decent recreation of the War of the Ring. Everyone in decline, Mordor skyrocketing, no one believes Gondor, Gondor gets wrecked. Mordor suddenly ascends to near all powerful as a coalition forms at the last minute to fight... and then the ring goes in the volcano and Mordor implodes and Orc bands scatter across the land.
Making Healthcare cost is a good idea but that sounded incredibly drastic for lvl 1
That moment when the Chinese get Bristol as a port city
Or the Isle of Wight right outside of Portsmouth
Bo should honestly make a Hoi4 tutorial series, using past MP clips as examples of what not to do
China: westernizes
Game: (crashes)
finally they listened to my prayers. VU best most. The infamy costs depending on state's pop is just straight life qualitat
This is the most peaceful conversation I’ve ever heard with theses guys
china straight up become so powerful it exploded
Hahahahaha, seeing these 5 playing Victoria II with those countries and with the Countryballs is super entertaining and fun
Base game China also sometimes westernize, but like, in the 1900s. And also gets the warlords event
This is easily one of my new favorite videos. The Qing-plosion had me rolling lmao
5:28 Swimmy sounds so intimidated right there xD
China in any mod: Westernizes
World Economy: Aight, imma head out
Bo back at it again in South America
What are the chances that the Chinese would land *just* where Dragon's Gate actually is in real life?
Literally the US: „people want healthcare, I need to increase my military spending“
So the Boxer Rebellion took place a bit too early for everyone, huh
"we are no longer asking for healthcare. we are demanding it"
I love the quite "I'm being colonized" at the end :D
Kind puts into perspective how memeable geopolitics is
Hell yeah, Victoria 2, I love your content
The world: the Chinese are westernizing!
The UK: I got something that can make the Chinese happy
thank you for putting subtitles in your videos, it makes it easier to watch in class lol
2:17 "We might have to manually de-stabilize China"
Yes. We need to organize some sort of crisis. Now what do we use to cause a crisis? How about opioids?
3:18 "China will grow larger". Ah! I see. Bo plays cnc Generals...
I build for China
in other news, nice to see the Ottomans doing well for once
Ottoman Sultan: OH fuck this, I'm not getting involved in this clusterfuck.
When Sweden comes to China: *Welcome to Hong Kong intensifies*
I wonder how Victoria III will go.
I am so excited
@@milotura6828 Don't get overhyped. Have you seen what they did to political parties?
Ah yes, I remember the great Battle of Stockholm. Where the Chinese famously landed on the beaches of Uppsala
It was one of the most calmest Bo's episodes
6:05 55 days at peking boom boom boom
Western powers: Alright guys we have to unite to stop China
China: Hold my beer
The Eight Nation Alliance part 2: Westernized Boogaloo
People want healthcare. “I should increase my military spending.” America lmao
1:56 Mexico, with the voice of the Critical Drinker: Nah it’ll be fine.
Hahashahahha one of the funniest videos so far, loved it ❤️
China : partially westernised
Me : time for a little field trip !
How to survive Vic2: Write Poems
Look Like the dragon finally catch the sun.
Gotta love the Vicky 2 videos.
Can't wait for Vicky 3 videos.
They even occupied the province Dragons Gate would be in 😅
China westernized so much they broke down
My fav day is when bo uploads/plays Vic 2 cause I can’t myself :(
Of course Schafer remembers the 50s, old man smh
>Sweden can't fund its army because of healthcare
>Have to subsidise Stockholm to the Chinese
Truly an age of suffering
You should do an MP game where you're all a different China >.>
China:i'll beat spain and become the biggest military in the worls by westernising
5 minutes later: y'all mind if i *breaks into millions of countries*
Well imagine when Vic 3 comes out, and shit like this but in higher quality.
the good ol days where the game made sense
You guys don't actually need to pay fully for health care you can let it at 20% for the first level and every level after that requires +20% until you reach 100% spending for the benefits of the last reform.
China: *racks shotgun* I got your Open Door right here.
Based Healthcare!
Me, sees the title
my first thought: F, they are gonna drown in Unemployed Chinese workers
The first thing I hear is about Healthcare
0:21 as a Brazilian I say: there is a looooot of us that want healthcare
Vic 3 hype and Vic 2 shenanigans? Perfect content
Having Subwoofers while watching this video makes it 100x funnier.
I swear, it's so horribly cursed to see how Bo slowly eats Argentina
Taking the take a loan from the Chinese Bank now has a new meaning
Video: Health Care
Ad: Toyota Care
The Danish welfare state actually started in 1933 with the Kanserlergade compromise, you should know this Bo, they taught us all about this in school.
poggers, Bo uploaded
Accurate representation of a conversation amongst American politicians from anytime in the past to the present day on healthcare
🎼”China became whole again. Then it broke again.”🎼
You are funny and you entertain me in every Video First i didnt Liked your Victoria Videos but when i looked closeler i Liked IT :)