Meta-Vision definitely did NOT ruin Blue Lock. Whilst I agree on Isagi moving into OP territory, I dont think it's his Meta-Vision that's causing it. It's his ego. Blue Lock is a series about EGO! Ego (self-perception/ protagonism whatever you call it) is the basis of every player evolution (whether it's acquiring skills, abilities etc). In every match we've watched, that has been the deciding factor in terms of results. So, with that in mind, it's easy to see why Isagi's ego makes BL kinda predictable. Isagi's ego can't be "killed" because he's not afraid of dying. He'll shred himself and rebuild himself as many times as it takes, and, combined with his desire to become the best, his ego is basically unkillable. We've seen players "die" and come back stronger and almost invincible (specifically Rin and Barou), but the only reason they don't feel as OP is that they're not the protagonist. Being side characters already caps their invincibility (Rin will probably beat Sae one day and Barou might get a Balon d'Or but all their rivalries will probably end up being about chasing Isagi). On the other hand, if Isagi beats them, the plot will put another obstacle for him to continue growing stronger (I mean, he's gotten Nagi, Rin, Sae, Shidou, now it's Kaiser). And because, like a shonen manga protagonist, Isagi won't die (suffer maybe, but not die), he'll keep gaining skills. There's a possibility things will get predictable (if they continue on the route they're going) unless they actually kill Isagi. If Kaiser's proposed new weapon works and PXG actually win, another arc might open up, but that's unlikely. In short, Isagi's Meta-Vision keeps getting stronger because Isagi keeps getting challenged. It's those protagonist benefits kicking in, man's gotta drive the plot. Everyone else's Meta-Vision won't improve because they aren't really getting challenged. Reo's Meta-Vision will develop slower because he's always hoarding skills and he can't use most skills at their best anyway. Niko and Aiku are already a Meta-Vision tag team backed by the best defender in the NEL and Aryu, so obviously it won't grow at the rate Isagi's is. None of them are challenging/are being challenged by Kaiser in IQ games. Unless they cap Isagi's "adaptability"/plot necessity, he'll win against any new skill they throw at him. That's why JJK keeps killing people 😂
People just don’t want Isagi to cook. Nagi literally learning soccer mid game is fine but Isagi a soccer nut who was also to be a prodigy of some sort is too much. I don’t know we see how hard he trains to get his stats up. Rin 1v11 is fine but Isagi reading the field is OP? Come on make sense.
It’s hard not to include something like metavision in sports anime cuz in RL is just peripheric vision + sport IQ, even in shows like Kuroko no Basket and Ao Ashi have some ability like that, but even so I like that in Blue Lock not only did Isagi (MC) have this but other players too, ironically is so much realistic that a bunch of players have this that just one or two like in other series, cuz in the real world the big majority of pros have this skill at some level.
I just realised but while all the players are playing in the NEL rn, they're still stuck wearing earphones for who knows how long cause they need to hear their teamates as they speak different languages. Why aren't they death yet from all the screaming and shouting while processing an entire match using metavision. Don't they get tired???
They're not earphones, they're translators so chances are the only voices they hear are that of the translation tech not the voices of the people speaking
These 2 points at 5:19 and 5:28. I wanna talk about em. I think it just makes sense why Isagi is evolving so fast to where he's competing with the world's best and why his metavision is overpowered. It all comes down to his experience with metavision and the environment Isagi is forced into and how he's been learning football during the NEL. I wanna start with why it makes sense his metavision has been outclassing all other players so far, save Snuffy. As far back as the 3rd selection, Isagi actually unlocked meta-vision for the very first time in a panel where you can see the exact same puzzle piece metavision eyes on him. So you could argue that Isagi has had some time with it even if he wasn't using it consciously and didn't understand it up until NEL, but that's why I think it makes sense that he's so good with it. Isagi's whole shtick has been about spatial awareness and using his eyes so he's basically already built a good foundation for himself on metavision. That's why when he witnessed Kaiser using it and finally cracked the code to metavision and started to fully understand it, that he was able to be so proficient with it. Once you've laid good groundwork for something, understanding it fully is when you can start to maximize it. It's like practicing a technique first and then the fundamentals of that technique. You'd understand things intuitively. That's what Isagi has been doing. As to why he's been evolving so fast, it's pretty much been shoved into our faces on why. Isagi has been dealing with fighting against entire teams and his very own team in a world class setting. The only true ally that he has on the field is Kurona, who always links up with him. I wouldn't count Hiyori completely because now he's willing to discard Isagi and link up with someone else if they prove to be better, and I'm not entirely convinced yet on Raichi but he has helped Isagi still. Most of Isagi's teammates want to devour Isagi and sabotage him. Kaiser, Ness, Kunigami, the other BM teammates who really only try to assist Kaiser. So Isagi has been constantly pushed to his limit time and time again because it's basically him and Kurona against everyone else. He's forced to think faster, come up with solutions quickly to counter his opponents, take into account how both his team and the opponents will respond and whether or not that'll be good for him. A lot goes through the dude's head and he's being forced to process and execute plays at a fast rate to be able to keep up because he has no team to support him. But the main reason Isagi evolves to rapidly is because of how much he uses this situation to his advantage. There was this video I saw talking about Isagi dethroning Kaiser, and the commentator made an extremely good observation. Isagi has been using ALL of the masters' philosophies and learning from them. Lavhino's philosophy of creativity, copying other strong dudes and then putting your own spin on it. That's practically what Isagi did with Kaiser's metavision + Kaiser impact formula and with the lefty shot, copying Kunigami and Noa's ambidexterity, but using the lefty shot as a secondary weapon. Next, Chris' philosophy of voicing your ideals and training a body to hold those ideals. He did this during manshine, when Noa linked up with him and asked him what his goal was and Isagi voiced that it was to destroy Kaiser. He couldn't fully do it that match, which is why he trained so hard for Ubers in order to have a body that could host that ideal, and he did it, he crushed Kaiser, not directly 1 on 1, but he achieved the overall goal of scoring more than him. Then Noa's philosophy of logical thinking and discarding irrationality. Isagi uses this to his biggest advantage through his teammates. Isagi drills into his head that he can't have childish and fantasy-like thoughts on the field and has to make plays that are logical and executable, but he also uses that to assist himself in his own goals. He uses this philosophy to be a team player. He assists his teammates by drawing out their full potential, sending them into flow and then devouring them for the sake of his goal, which in term benefits both him and whoever he links up with (Kurona, hiyori, raichi, gagamaru, kunigami). If not for Isagi, people like hiyori, kunigami, or raichi wouldnt have the bids they do now and vice versa. So I'm thinking Isagi's going to use Snuffy and Loki's philosophies by the end of NEL. I'm not sure how, but that's how the writing for Isagi has been going so far. All of this information stacked together builds the argument on why it makes sense that Isagi is evolving the way he is and why he's so good right now.
I think the problem with MV is that it takes away to much from other players as isagi should not been up and down the field getting most of the steals and blocks compared to other players who could’ve helped more and made them feel more relevant compared to where they stand now.
Isagi isn't op yet. What powerful about Isagi is his play making skill. His meta vision can be added some kind of factor (like in manshine when isagi adding protagonism in his meta vision). And about him predicting Snuffy plan is that every plan snuffy create, the executor of the final step is ALWAYS Barou. That is why Isagi can predict Snuffy plan. But until Isagi doesn't need anybody else that can see the field as his to be his partner, I won't say isagi is powerful
The author could've built on the idea of other players who don't have meta vision focusing their attention on helping or going against Isagi. For example in the U-20 Arc Barou didn't use a special eye ability he was just "Isagi hunting". If Isagi used Raichi to "Barou hunt" Isagi wouldn't be as overpowered.
Crazy how from the first match of this story isagi's brain and awareness has been the highlight nd people still find him having better MV to OP alot of y'all need to re read the story
Tbh the defensive part of isagi getting all the stops is not unrealistic cuz if u look at the chapters all the munchen defenders have their own assignments. That's how football goes in their red zone tracking players and marking them man on like Bastard has been defending is important, so Isagi just had to move according to the unmarked man. Metavision is just there for defensive identification, so the bastard defenders are defending they are not the main characters so they don't get the focus but if u look they are always tracking unmarked players and sticking to their assignments as it should be.
For me its fine, isagi pre mv could barely keep up with the others. He lacked in everything except vision and iq. But even with those he could keep up and even be the center of a match. The second selection perfectly shows how strong isagi is in general. With his iq and vision he was able to dominate during the 3v3 against reo/chigiri/kuni, and almost crushed someone like barous ego. Then in the 4v4 he was pretty much the only one who could keep up with rin, him and rin were controlling the match by out reading eachother. The earlier selections were basically him just using like a lvl 1 metavision in a way, which makes sense why its so strong for isagi specifically, it directly ties into his playstyle. Others who have it don’t necessarily need it but it helps support what they do but isagi has always relied on his eyes and iq to play in general so it makes sense when he gets like the ultimate powerup for them he’s elevated to a much higher lvl. Theres a reason why when he figured it out he had the thought that he could possibly beat anybody. Even noa saying it could lead isagi to him. Mv is essential to isagi while someone like rin or kaiser could still be an incredible player without it like barou.
Isagi plays like Thomas Muller even tho he is inspired from Filippo Inzaghi, like they say Muller can't beat you by speed, dribbling, physicality but he just beats you. And many haters keep saying plot while Isagi uses his spatial awareness and his Iq to beat anyone like what is Muller is doing which is a space finder(ramdeuter)
The entire “Isagi is OP” narrative is so insane to me. The Japanese government has spent billions to produce a world-class striker from their top 300 U-20 players. Of those 300 Isagi was the first one running towards to doors to start the competition. He’s not going to suck THIS far into training. His elite spacial awareness was his only tool. So of course his meta vision is going to out scale others. He’s inches away from from being the top U-20 player in all of Japan. They spent all that money to put him there. Is his supposed to suck? Like wtf are we talking about?
Rin just might humble isagi next match I love isagi but right now he's having too much wins in a row so Run might actually humble isagi . I want that to happen because than isagi will be forced to adapt again and we might get isagis version of berserk flow like rin or he will finally unlock his true ego in the second half prolly duel with Rin and still loose (You thought I wanted him to win ) Its only narratively correct he looses but he will be something different once we get to the U20 world cup arc . And is it Because at this point NEL is more like a saga than a standalone arc
If he loses narratively he'd not be a striker in the U20 world cup, denying his whole development throughout the NEL. Isagi is supposed to surpass all the blue lock hurdles in the NEL to then make the step up to the U20 world cup. Losing means he'd have to take a backseat against Rin and Barou...denying his whole ego and forcing him to play as a midfielder.@theonereader
After I reread some blue lock chapters rin used both meta vision and predator eye he used predator eye in the 5 v 5 game in the third selection to score the first goal, and he used meta vision in the u20 match to find where sae would pass to Shidou I don’t think those were 100% meta and predator but it was a lesser version of them so maybe rin has both now I could be wrong but still
Meta vision was necessary, it's a real life skill in the world of sports and needed to be explored so it did not ruin blue lock. Meta vision is a natural progression of being able to predict a players movement and actions based on who they are in relation to everything around them at a given point, that being said I feel like isagi has grown drastically, which makes sense as he's the mc, but it can be argued that he grew too much too quickly which I can understand that and do somewhat agree with. Where isagis is at now could've been the climax of if the nel, instead we are going into the last game with a seemingly overpowered isagi. I do want isagi to lose next game as he should've against ubers and how hyped their defense was which would perfectly lead into a win against rin, but rin needs to win against isagi as the series will lose the predictability allegations
@@KiiNGKhyy what’s wrong with predictability? We all know Isagi will become the best striker in the world? Is that an issue since it’s predictable? How about Japan winning a world cup? Also predictable isn’t it?
I agree it's good that other players have but metavision but it's like isagi has had it for like 10 plus years and if isagi is like this now imagine people like sae and other pros I won't be able to see anyone beat them if isagi is like this only using it in 2 games
@@KiiNGKhyyBM wins that game easily for me. They'll win specifically because of Rin and Shidou's inability to devour each other on the same pitch the same way Kaiser and Isagi do. BM is an endlessly evolving team whilst PXG is a super team split in two. For example, Kaiser says he has a weapon to end Isagi. He'll use and devour Isagi but we know chances are high Isagi won't die, so he'll just devour Kaiser right back. If he does actually die, someone on the BM team (Kunigami/Yukimiya/Hiori/Kiyora/Igaguri) will probably attempt to devour Kaiser, which will probably give Isagi more ideas, and so it'll become a chain of evolutions PXG can't deal with
I think metavision will no longer seem OP when characters start playing professionally. We have to consider that of all the professional players we've seen so far, only Snuffy had metavision, and even though he's considered the best player in the world, that doesn't change the fact that even characters without metavision can stand out in the professional scene. Personally, I believe metavision will become a nearly common skill in Blue Lock, and even those who don't possess it will at least learn how to deal with players who do. A good example is Noa, since even without metavision, he managed to keep up with Snuffy and Ubers. What made it difficult for Noa was that he could only rely on Isagi and Kaiser, who understood how someone with metavision thinks.
I always thought almost all pros have this ability like its the gateway to being a pro. So i kinda always thought everyone was gonna have to learn it to be number or an equivalent like predator eye.
Meta vision is more of an ace lead roll attribute, the reason why he was able to out smart kaiser is not because hes smarter but because kaiser doesn't know the habits of most of the egoists players, if he had a team to fully support him or a team were he was one of the fowards against isagi and his team, its really of whos team has the better players while isagi amd kaiser are similar in shooting with isagis direct shot and kaiser impact, kaiser would win in usability as direct shot is based lv 1 to kaiser shot being lv 2 or MAYBE even lv 3 isagi's mentality is new gen XI lv while his physical stats are ALMOST lacking, as we seen in the manga characters where stating his dribbling got better he was able to compete against some speedters so his speed also increased with training, the only thing isagi needs to do to win in against pxg is perhaps physical training in general, maybe make his lefty shot better by 10 or 20% or perhaps have a whole new kind of shot perhaps a curved shot 40% or something along those lines as he wont be the best but it will add versatility to his ability to score a goal
Ps if any of this doesn't make sense lmk to see if it was a misunderstanding, didn't word it correctly or just disagree, im a bit drunk so bare with me lol
Metavision is just turning your neck so basically everyone has used it to some extent also half the characters are shouting about vision so its hard not to have it
I like how Ego made the NEL specifically for blue lock players to evolve rapidly and people are complaining about rapid developement... It's almost as if World Ranking players are leagues above the current BL players... Like, they gotta grow stronger somehow, and Isagi is the MC, so this is a given, I mean Luffy never had a chance against Kaido but he won anyway, Ywacch and Aizen were Gods but still lost anyway, like the plot gotta plot... This is just shounen, it's going to get predictable at some point, Blue Lock got atleast 400-500+ more chapters to go, so stunting Isagi's growth for the developement of a side character would just be pointless...
i FEEL ISAGI NEEDS TO GET HUMBLED BY RIN NEXT MATCH SHOWING THAT HIS METAVISION IS NOT ENOUGH AND RELYING ON IT MAKES HIM A ONE TALENT PLAYER WHO WILL NOT MAKE IT TO THE WORLD CUP
Isagi might adapt his play style after seeing Rin do it and i rlly hope he evolves to be able to shoot without needing to shoot on the volley or half- volley which mean he can get more ground passes meaning tall player like isshikari can’t just snuff out the attack
He doesn’t need to get humbled, hes just that good now. He doesn’t just rely on mv but its his strongest weapon. Making isagi have to play a different way would just be changing his playstyle which is dumb. Of course isagi could do with having a better dribbling or new shot types but thats not how he normally plays so learning those skills will take awhile.
@@n3onnova564 making isagi that good is ruining blue lock he keeps adapting and winning and isn’t struggling as mush as before he badly needs to lose against rin
tf you mean one talented he literally developed a shot with his left foot in between matches, that's super impressive. The way he learns and adapts makes him one of the most multi-talented. Hes not struggling because we are in the end game of the story. Imagine Naruto still not controlling the nine tails in the 4th great ninja war it just doesn't make sense.
i don’t like using sagimpact (goal scent) for topics like this because he has clear biases against isagi. whenever isagi does crazy feats his is quick to shut down isagi’s growth while upscaling characters like barou
Can you blame him Isagi growth and feats is ridiculously stupid for someone who just fully unlocked metavision 5 days ago. All of sudden he is playing better defense than actual defenders and using Mv 100% running box to box after saying it’s impossible to maintain it an entire match mind you he just fainted 5 days ago.
@@RinSolos_ his vision was the one thing keeping him in blue lock without it he would have been eliminated and secondly is his adaptability these are the two things that shine out of isagi the most so ofc when we get to the nel where everyone has improved their main ability by 10 fold why is it an issue when isagi does the same
@@commander0343 I just told you the issue, why is he playing better defense than defenders on both teams? Thats stupid thats not football. Not only does he play box to box every possession he is always successful and suffers no repercussions from doing it he doesn’t get tired and he recovers stupidly fast which is unrealistic in a football sense.
Y’all just love to hate on isagi like I just watched season 1 over again yesterday & bro was literally garbage af but still had the same ability to “smell goals” since ep 2 like y’all steady hate on his progress but glaze barou & rin like bruh the man been shit since the beginning & his few little feats is just hated on . Honestly don’t know why y’all even read this manga , this is a fictional story we don’t need to wait 20yrs for the MC to be powerful like luffy . Trash video , trash opinion & I actually thought you was my fav UA-camr but nah y’all haters . Straight up
Soon, Isagi will be able to combo slurs with meta-vision in the PXG match and call Chapi the N-Word to stupefy him and gain an advantage But srsly, someone needs to tone down this dude, the series just feels predictable af now and the hyped Uber-defense made my future look brighter than them by the end of the match. One thing is sure though; Isagi fans live off the same copium as Isagi haters, both don't know how to fucking read and will debate with you like they own the manga directory.
Meta-Vision definitely did NOT ruin Blue Lock. Whilst I agree on Isagi moving into OP territory, I dont think it's his Meta-Vision that's causing it. It's his ego.
Blue Lock is a series about EGO! Ego (self-perception/ protagonism whatever you call it) is the basis of every player evolution (whether it's acquiring skills, abilities etc). In every match we've watched, that has been the deciding factor in terms of results.
So, with that in mind, it's easy to see why Isagi's ego makes BL kinda predictable. Isagi's ego can't be "killed" because he's not afraid of dying. He'll shred himself and rebuild himself as many times as it takes, and, combined with his desire to become the best, his ego is basically unkillable.
We've seen players "die" and come back stronger and almost invincible (specifically Rin and Barou), but the only reason they don't feel as OP is that they're not the protagonist. Being side characters already caps their invincibility (Rin will probably beat Sae one day and Barou might get a Balon d'Or but all their rivalries will probably end up being about chasing Isagi). On the other hand, if Isagi beats them, the plot will put another obstacle for him to continue growing stronger (I mean, he's gotten Nagi, Rin, Sae, Shidou, now it's Kaiser). And because, like a shonen manga protagonist, Isagi won't die (suffer maybe, but not die), he'll keep gaining skills. There's a possibility things will get predictable (if they continue on the route they're going) unless they actually kill Isagi. If Kaiser's proposed new weapon works and PXG actually win, another arc might open up, but that's unlikely.
In short, Isagi's Meta-Vision keeps getting stronger because Isagi keeps getting challenged. It's those protagonist benefits kicking in, man's gotta drive the plot.
Everyone else's Meta-Vision won't improve because they aren't really getting challenged. Reo's Meta-Vision will develop slower because he's always hoarding skills and he can't use most skills at their best anyway. Niko and Aiku are already a Meta-Vision tag team backed by the best defender in the NEL and Aryu, so obviously it won't grow at the rate Isagi's is. None of them are challenging/are being challenged by Kaiser in IQ games. Unless they cap Isagi's "adaptability"/plot necessity, he'll win against any new skill they throw at him. That's why JJK keeps killing people 😂
If it was gege writing blue lock he’d make Shidou give isagi some disability by kicking his head 💀💀
@@mimtoro definitely 😂😂😂
@@mimtoro IM DEAD
People just don’t want Isagi to cook. Nagi literally learning soccer mid game is fine but Isagi a soccer nut who was also to be a prodigy of some sort is too much. I don’t know we see how hard he trains to get his stats up. Rin 1v11 is fine but Isagi reading the field is OP? Come on make sense.
It’s hard not to include something like metavision in sports anime cuz in RL is just peripheric vision + sport IQ, even in shows like Kuroko no Basket and Ao Ashi have some ability like that, but even so I like that in Blue Lock not only did Isagi (MC) have this but other players too, ironically is so much realistic that a bunch of players have this that just one or two like in other series, cuz in the real world the big majority of pros have this skill at some level.
I just realised but while all the players are playing in the NEL rn, they're still stuck wearing earphones for who knows how long cause they need to hear their teamates as they speak different languages. Why aren't they death yet from all the screaming and shouting while processing an entire match using metavision. Don't they get tired???
Good question
Considering how developed the tech is, there's probably some adaptive audio management feature😅😂
I dont understand
Maybe it's like proximity chat 🤷♀️
They're not earphones, they're translators so chances are the only voices they hear are that of the translation tech not the voices of the people speaking
These 2 points at 5:19 and 5:28. I wanna talk about em. I think it just makes sense why Isagi is evolving so fast to where he's competing with the world's best and why his metavision is overpowered. It all comes down to his experience with metavision and the environment Isagi is forced into and how he's been learning football during the NEL. I wanna start with why it makes sense his metavision has been outclassing all other players so far, save Snuffy. As far back as the 3rd selection, Isagi actually unlocked meta-vision for the very first time in a panel where you can see the exact same puzzle piece metavision eyes on him. So you could argue that Isagi has had some time with it even if he wasn't using it consciously and didn't understand it up until NEL, but that's why I think it makes sense that he's so good with it. Isagi's whole shtick has been about spatial awareness and using his eyes so he's basically already built a good foundation for himself on metavision. That's why when he witnessed Kaiser using it and finally cracked the code to metavision and started to fully understand it, that he was able to be so proficient with it. Once you've laid good groundwork for something, understanding it fully is when you can start to maximize it. It's like practicing a technique first and then the fundamentals of that technique. You'd understand things intuitively. That's what Isagi has been doing.
As to why he's been evolving so fast, it's pretty much been shoved into our faces on why. Isagi has been dealing with fighting against entire teams and his very own team in a world class setting. The only true ally that he has on the field is Kurona, who always links up with him. I wouldn't count Hiyori completely because now he's willing to discard Isagi and link up with someone else if they prove to be better, and I'm not entirely convinced yet on Raichi but he has helped Isagi still. Most of Isagi's teammates want to devour Isagi and sabotage him. Kaiser, Ness, Kunigami, the other BM teammates who really only try to assist Kaiser. So Isagi has been constantly pushed to his limit time and time again because it's basically him and Kurona against everyone else. He's forced to think faster, come up with solutions quickly to counter his opponents, take into account how both his team and the opponents will respond and whether or not that'll be good for him. A lot goes through the dude's head and he's being forced to process and execute plays at a fast rate to be able to keep up because he has no team to support him.
But the main reason Isagi evolves to rapidly is because of how much he uses this situation to his advantage. There was this video I saw talking about Isagi dethroning Kaiser, and the commentator made an extremely good observation. Isagi has been using ALL of the masters' philosophies and learning from them. Lavhino's philosophy of creativity, copying other strong dudes and then putting your own spin on it. That's practically what Isagi did with Kaiser's metavision + Kaiser impact formula and with the lefty shot, copying Kunigami and Noa's ambidexterity, but using the lefty shot as a secondary weapon. Next, Chris' philosophy of voicing your ideals and training a body to hold those ideals. He did this during manshine, when Noa linked up with him and asked him what his goal was and Isagi voiced that it was to destroy Kaiser. He couldn't fully do it that match, which is why he trained so hard for Ubers in order to have a body that could host that ideal, and he did it, he crushed Kaiser, not directly 1 on 1, but he achieved the overall goal of scoring more than him. Then Noa's philosophy of logical thinking and discarding irrationality. Isagi uses this to his biggest advantage through his teammates. Isagi drills into his head that he can't have childish and fantasy-like thoughts on the field and has to make plays that are logical and executable, but he also uses that to assist himself in his own goals. He uses this philosophy to be a team player. He assists his teammates by drawing out their full potential, sending them into flow and then devouring them for the sake of his goal, which in term benefits both him and whoever he links up with (Kurona, hiyori, raichi, gagamaru, kunigami). If not for Isagi, people like hiyori, kunigami, or raichi wouldnt have the bids they do now and vice versa. So I'm thinking Isagi's going to use Snuffy and Loki's philosophies by the end of NEL. I'm not sure how, but that's how the writing for Isagi has been going so far. All of this information stacked together builds the argument on why it makes sense that Isagi is evolving the way he is and why he's so good right now.
Charles in PXG will have it. Shidou def won’t. He plays purely from instinct he has SOMETHING but not that. Rin has a strong chance at it tho
I think the problem with MV is that it takes away to much from other players as isagi should not been up and down the field getting most of the steals and blocks compared to other players who could’ve helped more and made them feel more relevant compared to where they stand now.
Thank you for understanding this
Only person who seem to understand
Literally isaig has alway been blocking ssving the teams ass but ok.
@@RinSolos_thats literally been his whole play style since the firs selection.
Isagi isn't op yet. What powerful about Isagi is his play making skill. His meta vision can be added some kind of factor (like in manshine when isagi adding protagonism in his meta vision). And about him predicting Snuffy plan is that every plan snuffy create, the executor of the final step is ALWAYS Barou. That is why Isagi can predict Snuffy plan. But until Isagi doesn't need anybody else that can see the field as his to be his partner, I won't say isagi is powerful
The author could've built on the idea of other players who don't have meta vision focusing their attention on helping or going against Isagi. For example in the U-20 Arc Barou didn't use a special eye ability he was just "Isagi hunting". If Isagi used Raichi to "Barou hunt" Isagi wouldn't be as overpowered.
Crazy how from the first match of this story isagi's brain and awareness has been the highlight nd people still find him having better MV to OP alot of y'all need to re read the story
Even as a kid he’s said to have had above average spatial awareness 😭 (egoist bible)
Tbh the defensive part of isagi getting all the stops is not unrealistic cuz if u look at the chapters all the munchen defenders have their own assignments. That's how football goes in their red zone tracking players and marking them man on like Bastard has been defending is important, so Isagi just had to move according to the unmarked man. Metavision is just there for defensive identification, so the bastard defenders are defending they are not the main characters so they don't get the focus but if u look they are always tracking unmarked players and sticking to their assignments as it should be.
Adaptability is broken.
For me its fine, isagi pre mv could barely keep up with the others. He lacked in everything except vision and iq. But even with those he could keep up and even be the center of a match. The second selection perfectly shows how strong isagi is in general. With his iq and vision he was able to dominate during the 3v3 against reo/chigiri/kuni, and almost crushed someone like barous ego. Then in the 4v4 he was pretty much the only one who could keep up with rin, him and rin were controlling the match by out reading eachother.
The earlier selections were basically him just using like a lvl 1 metavision in a way, which makes sense why its so strong for isagi specifically, it directly ties into his playstyle. Others who have it don’t necessarily need it but it helps support what they do but isagi has always relied on his eyes and iq to play in general so it makes sense when he gets like the ultimate powerup for them he’s elevated to a much higher lvl. Theres a reason why when he figured it out he had the thought that he could possibly beat anybody. Even noa saying it could lead isagi to him. Mv is essential to isagi while someone like rin or kaiser could still be an incredible player without it like barou.
Isagi plays like Thomas Muller even tho he is inspired from Filippo Inzaghi, like they say Muller can't beat you by speed, dribbling, physicality but he just beats you. And many haters keep saying plot while Isagi uses his spatial awareness and his Iq to beat anyone like what is Muller is doing which is a space finder(ramdeuter)
The entire “Isagi is OP” narrative is so insane to me. The Japanese government has spent billions to produce a world-class striker from their top 300 U-20 players. Of those 300 Isagi was the first one running towards to doors to start the competition. He’s not going to suck THIS far into training. His elite spacial awareness was his only tool. So of course his meta vision is going to out scale others. He’s inches away from from being the top U-20 player in all of Japan. They spent all that money to put him there. Is his supposed to suck? Like wtf are we talking about?
not that he would suck but some do question how fast he is advancing.
Rin just might humble isagi next match I love isagi but right now he's having too much wins in a row so Run might actually humble isagi . I want that to happen because than isagi will be forced to adapt again and we might get isagis version of berserk flow like rin or he will finally unlock his true ego in the second half prolly duel with Rin and still loose (You thought I wanted him to win ) Its only narratively correct he looses but he will be something different once we get to the U20 world cup arc . And is it Because at this point NEL is more like a saga than a standalone arc
If he loses narratively he'd not be a striker in the U20 world cup, denying his whole development throughout the NEL. Isagi is supposed to surpass all the blue lock hurdles in the NEL to then make the step up to the U20 world cup. Losing means he'd have to take a backseat against Rin and Barou...denying his whole ego and forcing him to play as a midfielder.@theonereader
@@Skincrawler_bandit what wins in a row?
@@Fallen_09 I mean Rin did tell him in second selection that isagi will sit back on the sidelines and watch Rin become the best 🤷
After I reread some blue lock chapters rin used both meta vision and predator eye he used predator eye in the 5 v 5 game in the third selection to score the first goal, and he used meta vision in the u20 match to find where sae would pass to Shidou I don’t think those were 100% meta and predator but it was a lesser version of them so maybe rin has both now I could be wrong but still
Meta vision was necessary, it's a real life skill in the world of sports and needed to be explored so it did not ruin blue lock. Meta vision is a natural progression of being able to predict a players movement and actions based on who they are in relation to everything around them at a given point, that being said I feel like isagi has grown drastically, which makes sense as he's the mc, but it can be argued that he grew too much too quickly which I can understand that and do somewhat agree with. Where isagis is at now could've been the climax of if the nel, instead we are going into the last game with a seemingly overpowered isagi. I do want isagi to lose next game as he should've against ubers and how hyped their defense was which would perfectly lead into a win against rin, but rin needs to win against isagi as the series will lose the predictability allegations
Yea if isagi wins now then its just too predictable
Besides i dont see how munchen beats this team
@@KiiNGKhyy what’s wrong with predictability? We all know Isagi will become the best striker in the world? Is that an issue since it’s predictable? How about Japan winning a world cup? Also predictable isn’t it?
I agree it's good that other players have but metavision but it's like isagi has had it for like 10 plus years and if isagi is like this now imagine people like sae and other pros I won't be able to see anyone beat them if isagi is like this only using it in 2 games
@@KiiNGKhyyBM wins that game easily for me. They'll win specifically because of Rin and Shidou's inability to devour each other on the same pitch the same way Kaiser and Isagi do. BM is an endlessly evolving team whilst PXG is a super team split in two.
For example, Kaiser says he has a weapon to end Isagi. He'll use and devour Isagi but we know chances are high Isagi won't die, so he'll just devour Kaiser right back. If he does actually die, someone on the BM team (Kunigami/Yukimiya/Hiori/Kiyora/Igaguri) will probably attempt to devour Kaiser, which will probably give Isagi more ideas, and so it'll become a chain of evolutions PXG can't deal with
oo damn my coloring on a thumbnail :D
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@@KiiNGKhyy thanks goat 🙏
People who complain about a lot of people having metavision clearly don't watch football in real life
I think metavision will no longer seem OP when characters start playing professionally. We have to consider that of all the professional players we've seen so far, only Snuffy had metavision, and even though he's considered the best player in the world, that doesn't change the fact that even characters without metavision can stand out in the professional scene. Personally, I believe metavision will become a nearly common skill in Blue Lock, and even those who don't possess it will at least learn how to deal with players who do. A good example is Noa, since even without metavision, he managed to keep up with Snuffy and Ubers. What made it difficult for Noa was that he could only rely on Isagi and Kaiser, who understood how someone with metavision thinks.
I always thought almost all pros have this ability like its the gateway to being a pro. So i kinda always thought everyone was gonna have to learn it to be number or an equivalent like predator eye.
Na i dont think so. Its still a rare ability
the problem i have is everyone using it
Meta vision is more of an ace lead roll attribute, the reason why he was able to out smart kaiser is not because hes smarter but because kaiser doesn't know the habits of most of the egoists players, if he had a team to fully support him or a team were he was one of the fowards against isagi and his team, its really of whos team has the better players while isagi amd kaiser are similar in shooting with isagis direct shot and kaiser impact, kaiser would win in usability as direct shot is based lv 1 to kaiser shot being lv 2 or MAYBE even lv 3 isagi's mentality is new gen XI lv while his physical stats are ALMOST lacking, as we seen in the manga characters where stating his dribbling got better he was able to compete against some speedters so his speed also increased with training, the only thing isagi needs to do to win in against pxg is perhaps physical training in general, maybe make his lefty shot better by 10 or 20% or perhaps have a whole new kind of shot perhaps a curved shot 40% or something along those lines as he wont be the best but it will add versatility to his ability to score a goal
Ps if any of this doesn't make sense lmk to see if it was a misunderstanding, didn't word it correctly or just disagree, im a bit drunk so bare with me lol
i think if anyone is going to get meta visions next, it might be charles, the new PXG player
I could see that forsure
Predicting the blue lock top 5 ranking
1 Isagi Yoichi
2 Itoshi Rin
3 Shidou Ryusei
4 Nagi Seshirou
5 Kunigami Rensuke
Nagi is not that guy
What nagi and whyy kunigami😂😂
And Barou shouei will be number
Metavision is just turning your neck so basically everyone has used it to some extent also half the characters are shouting about vision so its hard not to have it
if only it were that simple
I like how Ego made the NEL specifically for blue lock players to evolve rapidly and people are complaining about rapid developement...
It's almost as if World Ranking players are leagues above the current BL players...
Like, they gotta grow stronger somehow, and Isagi is the MC, so this is a given, I mean Luffy never had a chance against Kaido but he won anyway, Ywacch and Aizen were Gods but still lost anyway, like the plot gotta plot...
This is just shounen, it's going to get predictable at some point, Blue Lock got atleast 400-500+ more chapters to go, so stunting Isagi's growth for the developement of a side character would just be pointless...
Maybe the point of the arc is for isagi to surpass rin so my boi js started juicing
i FEEL ISAGI NEEDS TO GET HUMBLED BY RIN NEXT MATCH SHOWING THAT HIS METAVISION IS NOT ENOUGH AND RELYING ON IT MAKES HIM A ONE TALENT PLAYER WHO WILL NOT MAKE IT TO THE WORLD CUP
Isagi might adapt his play style after seeing Rin do it and i rlly hope he evolves to be able to shoot without needing to shoot on the volley or half- volley which mean he can get more ground passes meaning tall player like isshikari can’t just snuff out the attack
He doesn’t need to get humbled, hes just that good now. He doesn’t just rely on mv but its his strongest weapon. Making isagi have to play a different way would just be changing his playstyle which is dumb.
Of course isagi could do with having a better dribbling or new shot types but thats not how he normally plays so learning those skills will take awhile.
@@n3onnova564 making isagi that good is ruining blue lock he keeps adapting and winning and isn’t struggling as mush as before he badly needs to lose against rin
tf you mean one talented he literally developed a shot with his left foot in between matches, that's super impressive. The way he learns and adapts makes him one of the most multi-talented. Hes not struggling because we are in the end game of the story. Imagine Naruto still not controlling the nine tails in the 4th great ninja war it just doesn't make sense.
@@jaccetaylor3672 lol blue lock is so not close to the ending 🤣 what is your source bro
Some people didn't read the spin off novel about Isagi...
i don’t like using sagimpact (goal scent) for topics like this because he has clear biases against isagi. whenever isagi does crazy feats his is quick to shut down isagi’s growth while upscaling characters like barou
Can you blame him Isagi growth and feats is ridiculously stupid for someone who just fully unlocked metavision 5 days ago. All of sudden he is playing better defense than actual defenders and using Mv 100% running box to box after saying it’s impossible to maintain it an entire match mind you he just fainted 5 days ago.
@@RinSolos_ his vision was the one thing keeping him in blue lock without it he would have been eliminated and secondly is his adaptability these are the two things that shine out of isagi the most so ofc when we get to the nel where everyone has improved their main ability by 10 fold why is it an issue when isagi does the same
@@RinSolos_ after that game he knew exactly what he needed to work on to improve it for a full game use and he did just that
@@commander0343 I just told you the issue, why is he playing better defense than defenders on both teams? Thats stupid thats not football. Not only does he play box to box every possession he is always successful and suffers no repercussions from doing it he doesn’t get tired and he recovers stupidly fast which is unrealistic in a football sense.
It ruined manga a little bit because it was overestimated.
Blame the fandom not the author in my eyes
Clickbait much? Its only bad if you decide it to be bad and ignore the fun of metavision in blue lock
Hiori did fu da bi
Y’all just love to hate on isagi like I just watched season 1 over again yesterday & bro was literally garbage af but still had the same ability to “smell goals” since ep 2 like y’all steady hate on his progress but glaze barou & rin like bruh the man been shit since the beginning & his few little feats is just hated on . Honestly don’t know why y’all even read this manga , this is a fictional story we don’t need to wait 20yrs for the MC to be powerful like luffy . Trash video , trash opinion & I actually thought you was my fav UA-camr but nah y’all haters . Straight up
Soon, Isagi will be able to combo slurs with meta-vision in the PXG match and call Chapi the N-Word to stupefy him and gain an advantage
But srsly, someone needs to tone down this dude, the series just feels predictable af now and the hyped Uber-defense made my future look brighter than them by the end of the match.
One thing is sure though; Isagi fans live off the same copium as Isagi haters, both don't know how to fucking read and will debate with you like they own the manga directory.
At the end of the day blue lock was he journey along the 💀☠️🤡💀