Every time this kinda thing comes up, I always reiterate "Why remake something that worked well and is well remembered, when you could remake something that failed; yet had a spark of something"
The Office didn't need to reboot itself after Michael left, as Michael was never the "heart" of the show. Although Steve Carell was initially the main star in the cast, over the years it was Jim and Pam who made The Office what it ultimately was.
The smartest way to go about this would be with a completely new cast and new office space right? Essentially make this next series where the film crew went after they were done at dunder Mifflin. Getaway do a shared universe where each different interpretation of the office is all being filmed by the same crew as they complete different documentaries
The problem I see with all of these nostalgic reboots, is that we as fans do not want to invest the time in watching them when the current climate for television is to cancel shows when ratings or numbers are not immediately high. Back in the 90s and early 2000s tv shows were given time to settle, and most were not cancelled immediately because word of mouth was important to get viewers to become invested. Series like 3rd Rock From The Sun would have never survived today because the viewership when first launched was not super high. I can say I was a fan of the iCarly reboot but I never got super invested because I always had a feeling it would get cancelled prematurely, and the worst part is that since networks keep cancelling shows when they have cliffhanger endings; audiences are becoming distrustful of new releases and would just prefer to continue watching classic series that had complete endings.
Another problem with these Nostalgic reboots is people don’t realize they’ll never get that same experience they got from the orginal, no matter what they do. The cast grew up, people look different, Their character arcs are complete, there’s just nothing really left to tell in the story. I remember Steve Carrell answer to a reboot years back was “The fans think they want us to come back but they don’t REALLY want us to come back, the time was specific and it was basically lightning in a bottle. The fans want that show exactly how it was to come back and there’s no way that would ever happen.”
@@sideeyed7682 that is why it sucks that Icarly specifically got canceled because the cast and crew cared about what they were doing and had at least one story left to tell, something that we've quietly wondered about since the original show. Carly's mom and what's worse is the studio gaslighting fans trying to act like they didn't absolutely screw them over.
Even then, good ratings don't immediately save you. Bojack Horseman, by its 5th season, had become one of the most critically acclaimed TV shows of all time. The only reason it got a season 6 is because the creators and actors begged Netflix for one season to wrap up the story. Bojack Horseman was cancelled. One of, if not the most acclaimed animated TV show of all time ended up getting cancelled for pretty much no reason that I can find. Other shows, it's a complete dice roll if they go anywhere.
Star Trek TNG is a great example of this, the first two season were rough, awful even, it didn't hit it's stride till about midway though the 3rd season, and then seasons 4-7 are some of the best television ever made. That show never would have made it past the 2nd season in todays climate.
Just make it a true sequel. The station hasn't had a hit since the first documentary so they find a new office, somewhere, and attempt to catch lightening twice. It can be played tongue and cheek since that's what NBC is doing with Peacock and this reboot. Let Daniels take it from there.
Yeah right?? And to appease all the hardcore fans, just throw in dumb Easter eggs - a grocery bag that says Shrute Farms, a news article about the Scranton Strangler being released from prison, Robert California is now the head of like a rocket company. Etc
That’s not the flimsiest idea for a reboot I’ve ever heard. Many sequels to documentaries exist in real life. Even Michael “I’ll fight the power after my third crunchwrap” Moore made a follow-up to *Roger & Me* called *Pets or Meat.*
Considering that the US Office is already both a copy of the UK Office and exists in the same universe due to a crossover with David Brent, why can't there be yet another Office in a different part of the country? There doesn't even need to be a reboot. For the record, i'm utterly bored with the concept, but I'm not bothered by the idea either.
@@matthewsawczyn6592Actually it was meant to be a direct spin off with Rashida Jones as Karen, but that changed to just another show with a similar premise.
The Office didn't need to reboot itself after Michael left, as Michael was never the "heart" of the show. Although Steve Carell was initially the main star in the cast, over the years it was Jim and Pam who made The Office what it ultimately was.
@@JayBandersnatch he was the heart of the show and people try to cope that he isn't, Jim and Pam basically had their story mostly over after they had Cece
@@timothyngo The "Office Ladies",i.e. Jenna and Angela, would disagree, as they stated in their podcast that everyone thought Jim and Pam were the heart of the show.
@@GrandMasterNegro @xLASTOFMYKINDx the "driving force" behind the success and the "heart of the show" are two separate concepts. Yes, Steve Carell was the reason The Office was initially successful, but the story of Jim and Pam kept the show going. "The Office Gave Its Real Main Character A Perfect Ending BYCATHAL GUNNING The Office seemed to center around Michael Scott, but the sitcom's perfect finale proved who its real main character was with an ideal conclusion." I tried to post the link but YT auto deleted my comment. I'm sure if you googe the title of the article you'll find it.
Lol nooooo @ncbarrett4502 can’t you see that you’re the mark here! They know people will be like oh wow I like the office can’t be that bad! And watch enough of it to make them all money!
They definitely shouldn’t reboot. But I wouldn’t mind a new show in the spirit and format of The Office and Parks and Rec set in a new environment with new characters and stories
The writers and actors aren't driving the dreaded reboots. The strike is not relevant to your concerns. Producers and network executives love to minimize risk by producing proven "winners." Familiar movies and shows from which they squeeze every last dollar out of Charlie's Angel's, Twilight Zone, Full House, etc. If you wanted the strike to continue (however tongue-in-cheek you imagine your comment) you're way off the mark for the culprits of rebooting. I doubt that you felt that the strikers should've demanded an end to reboots.
I've said it before, but THANK YOU for keeping your ads at the end of your video. It gives me a chance to look at the comments after the video while they play, and I don't get pissed off within ten seconds of starting your videos.
There’s also the case of The Office being one of the last TV shows to treat work as a collective “friends we meet along the way” experience. Nowadays most shows fall along Severance’s line of “how the workplace exploits capitalism for everyone’s misery but shareholders” vibes. At least by current generational critiques.
This should be the top comment. I have worked in offices in the last 10 years. It is a fucking cold and sterile environment. Most of the people you work with, you would never take them out for beer and wings on their birthday much less attend their wedding. There is no camaraderie . That shit is a fantasy as people are now more expendable then ever. You never know how long people will last. Why would you make friends with people you don’t expect to see next year? And if you have WFH, or hybrid, you barely even interact with them aside from hearing their voice in a zoom call. Also, identity politics and political wokeness has ruined relationships, so much so, that instead making friends and opening up to people, we feel like shutting ourselves from the world and keeping our real thoughts to ourselves lest we make enemies who try to cancel us.
True, but that's just the Michael Schur style. Parks and Recreation made government systems inviting, Brooklyn 99 has been called copaganda and The Good Place caused hell to look pretty. This friendly nature is idealistic but the foundation that makes his shows hit. So if he was brought back on board I'd encourage it- it wouldn't be a Michael Schur show without that
They also tend to forget what made the original so beloved in the first place as well and do the complete opposite of everything people actually liked about it.
The only reboot that has worked was Cobra Kai and that is only because there was huge potential for character development that hadn’t yet been established and because the writers had the good sense to create a bridge for the old movie characters to new characters that we care about. This is gonna be a huge uphill battle and the scrutiny will be high.
You know what show I wanna see? A new sci-fi series set in the Firefly universe, but *not* a remake. A TNG to Firefly's TOS. Make it follow a space cruiseliner instead of a freighter. Have Mal or Jayne be a side character and fufill the Book role. Gimme something like that! Or something similar with Babylon 5, another show they're trying to remake and really, *really* shouldn't be... Sure Crusade was dismal, but I still think a good Babylon 5 series is doable.
When auditions were happening Krasinski himself had told Greg Daniels (unknowingly) that he was worried about the American version because to him, the British version was too good and might be ruined. The Office itself is already a reboot and nearly failed in its first season, we *really* shouldn’t get carried away.
The Jim/Pam love story is what drove the office for 6 seasons. The 7th season was coasting off of that. 8 and 9 were zombie seasons which, while they had some good comedy, lacked an overall drive pushing it forward.
Maybe for some, but that relationship was NOT the sole driving force of the show. If anyone was, it was Michael, and the show clearly went down when he left. Even there, there was such a good cast and set of characters, they were able to keep it going after him.
The one character they could bring back and be really funny is Creed. Imagine if he just around and up to his old tricks again without addressing what happened to him between the office and the new one until like maybe the end when he gets arrested again. He could also bring up some of the crazy things that used to go on at his old job while getting names and details wrong as usual. Which would make the references more funny instead “DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THIS HAPPENED IN THAT SHOW YOU LIKE?”
I don't know if it's still planned or not, but I'm somewhat interested in the Australian version that's coming to Prime Video, because it feels like a good way to continue the story without relying on the fondness for the US show, like how the US show didn't rely on the fondness for the UK show.
My gut tells me that the bulk of the storyline will be the boss trying to find the perfect man and a bunch of COVID jokes but I'm definitely going to give it an open minded try.
It also doesn't help that the concept of office culture nowadays could probably be stretched thin. I could be wrong but I think in terms of comedic potential, I can picture two seasons at the MOST for a show like this. But yeah, this will either be decent or crash and burn. This will either age like wine or milk.
I would fucking love it if it starts as a cohesive office, then it just follows those employees as they hit redundancies, buyouts and divisions, working from home, getting bought again and more firings, over and over until almost no one is working together anymore.
I am not even joking but the only revival or reboot I have actually liked is Icarly and that was just canceled abruptly a few days ago completely ignoring the cliffhanger of her Mom. What is most frustrating about this specific cancellation is that the cast and crew were not expecting it and had very obviously planned to explore Carly’s mother as a fourth season storyline. Icarly was just nostalgic enough without feeling like the ‘adult’ aspect was unnatural or forced. It just goes to show that no matter how popular or successful studios will never keep these things longer than three years. I do not see Fraiser or the office working at all, and I'm not going to let myself get reinvested just to hear that they are also canceled in three years.
As a huge fan of the original show, i absolutely love the iCarly revival, it's a shame that they cancelled the show abruptly with a cliffhanger. That show is an example how to done a revival of a kids show in the right way for the older audiences who grew up watching the original, something that the Lizze McGuire revival should've take notes
@@Erasureeraser I know I love that it was different from the original but still respected it. I'm hoping that even if it takes a few years there is a wrap-up movie or special, it seriously feels like the studio is taking the phrase “leave them wanting more” very literally.
@@FenixReZ if what you loved about the original was the random = funny sketches then the revival probably isn't for you, but if you liked the characters and the situations that they got themselves into then it's definitely worth watching.
@@joshz2491 I would say the sketches put the characters in very interesting situations which brought out traits and reasons to why I like them so much. I haven’t watched the revival in awhile but the first few episodes didn’t feel the same to me in terms of writing and payoff
Yeah, not the best analogy bud. In other parts of the world (everywhere but the US, and prob UK), it’s customary to use a spoon when eating spaghetti. I’ve tried it and it’s really useful. It’s like a little handheld dish used to control the noodles as you spin your fork around. Keeps sauce from flying everywhere and maintains a nice, tight swirl of noodle. Might I suggest: …makes as much sense as unscented perfume. …makes as much sense as black sunscreen. …makes as much sense as peanut flavored Nutella.
@@Devil-Made Yeah, not the best analogy bud. In other parts of the world (everywhere but the US, and prob UK), it’s customary to combine nutella and peanutbother when wanting the best of both worlds. I’ve tried it and it’s really tasty. Keeps things interesting and varied and maintains a nice, tight balance of both flavours.
@@MLBlue30 Don't worry, that's coming very soon as a means to "save us" from Progressive Liberal Marxism and to "Make America Great Again". This will happen after DJT returns to the White House and will be spearheaded by the Roman Catholic Church. Look up Public Law One 0 Two dash 1 Four and "The Seven Laws of Noah". Those two things tie in with the following: What is the “7 Mountains Mandate” (Dominionism/Dominion Theology)? Supposedly there are 7 “mountains” of global society-Arts and Entertainment, Education, Economy, Family, Government and Military, Media and Religion. (Note: The US voting machines are called “Dominion”.) According to this false teaching, by conquering these 7 “mountains”, the Kingdom of God will be established. Hegelian Dialectic: Problem, Reaction, Solution Liberals are creating social division (in the name of diversity and inclusion), and we are experiencing the second recession of the century under yet another Liberal Democrat President. Our morals, values and ethics have diminished under the influence of Liberalism. Reaction: We need a leader who will turn things back around, restore the economy and our values to Make America Great Again. Solution: The US Public Law containing the Seven Laws of Noah which will enforce religious laws and be used to remove Liberals from the seven mountains of society.
Everything is nostalgia. Star Wars was nostalgia for the old pulp adventures. The difference is that Star Wars did something new with the source material, using the nostalgia in a way that appealed to new audiences. Hell even the Bible has a quote "Nothing new under the sun."
acting like nothing has come out culturally since the office is pretty silly there's plenty of good shows on streaming platforms, just unfortunate they get cancelled so often due to corporate greed
if they do bring back the original cast I hope they have a "where are they now" type mini-series. The characters all went their own way at the end of the series so I feel like it's the only format that could work. If they do reboot/remake the series it probably won't last more than a few seasons.
I agree with all of this, except S.4 & 5 of Arrested Development. After rewatching it years after it coming out, I LOVED IT! They can’t compare to 1, 2, and 3, but not because they are bad or lower quality at all, but just because it is different. I know it’s an unpopular opinion though.
Nah. What made him so funny and interesting is that we knew next to nothing about him, so each reveal about his character always came as a WTF??? surprise. His whole character is this guy no one quite knows or understands.
I haven't seen "The Office," but I gotta say, your thoughts on a potential reboot echo a lot of my thoughts on the upcoming "Fraiser" revival. I'm cautiously optimistic, but the more pragmatic side of me says there's no way it'll capture the zeitgeist like the original did if only because "Fraiser" was already an unlikely success, and it's hard to make lightning strike twice (or three times if you wanna count "Cheers," too). Also, the TV landscape has changed so much in the past two decades. Even if it turns out to be hilarious, it's hard for me to be hopeful that it'll run for more than two seasons unless it's a smash hit for Paramount+ right out of the gate. I am thankful they're surrounding Kelsey Grammer with an entirely new main cast, though. No one seems to be saying it, but I feel doing that was a boon to the OG show from the beginning, and probably the smartest move the reboot is making right now.
Star Trek TNG did have Diana Muldar, who played two different characters in TOS, come in for season 2 as Pulaski. But I’d argue that neither of her characters were important or beloved enough for that to be nostalgia bait, she was likely hired because she just had experience already
Speaking of the Christmas special, I finally found it in a second-hand store in the other end of my home country on my Summer holiday this year. I'll never forgive the people behind it for not just tacking it onto the Series 2 DVD, leading me on a 3 year hunt for the third DVD. Especially since it's the original Office's actual show finale, unlike every other show's Christmas special.
The shout out to @nerdsync is so dope! I love Scott and his videos! Really enjoyed this one. I really don't know how they would do a reboot of the office and I don't think I want one either. Doesn't seem like it's appropriate or like it would work. I don't envy anyone in the position of trying to figure all that out
They already stretched it too thin with 9 seasons as it is. What else could they possibly do with this premise, beyond one or two obligatory "work from home amiright millennials?" gags. The show wasnt even good post-S3 in the original run.
Your point with TNG is right on the money. The same happened with the first season of the "Justice League" cartoon. VERY few cameos from characters who had previously appeared in other DCAU shows, save for The Joker and Lex Luthor being big ones. It didn't lean on older continuity until it had established itself as its own thing firmly, then season 2 brought it some other favorite characters from Batman TAS and Superman TAS. This Office reboot should do the same, totally agree.
See... JL before JLU (Twilight/Starcrossed are the exceptions) is in incredibly fucking dull to me and really diminishes most of the characters by, natch, making it mostly the Batman and friends show. Which is why both Twilight and Starcrossed stand out by NOT being Batman and his hangers on, but showcasing these characters in their glory.
If they are going to reboot it, they should do it with Bob Odenkirk's character that is basically Michael Scott in those 2 season 9 episodes. I think that character could work. Also, get Michael Weston to be a part of the cast. He was in those episodes and he was also Private Dancer on SCRUBS.
It's hard to imagine The Office coming back with the same (or most) of the case, but it seems harder to imagine a new cast. I think it's possible with good writers - whichever option they choose - because the comedy of The Office was built around the perspective of awkward office interactions. That hasn't gone anywhere, so if they can write unique situations in it and build new character interactions, they'll have something people are willing to watch.
i genuinely think it can work very well as long as they focus on the mockumentary format - talking heads are good and i think audiences miss them! look how well received abbot elementary is! all new characters but we are aware there is a camera crew - maybe a new city and state? there’s some real opportunity here and i’m choosing to stay optimistic until i’m convinced otherwise
A vast majority of the jokes told in the TV series The Office? Couldn’t be uttered these days or risk having the actors cancelled. I don’t think this is a good idea. Lmao
I feel like That 90s Show is a good example of a lazy sitcom purely coasting on nostalgia for the original series. Uninteresting characters and bad acting purely held up by brief cameos of the original cast.
You know what pisses me off the most… During the pandemic, Rainn Wilson thought of the concept of adapting it into a revival first. Why not just do that?
I'm not saying it would or wouldn't be a good idea to reboot the show but I love how adamant everyone is that a reboot would be awful despite the show itself already being a reboot of the UK version, like imagine if they hadn't made that because people were whining at just the idea of a reboot of the original version, we wouldn't have this show to not want to be rebooted in the first place.
Like he said in the video the original office was only one season. The reboot is off of 200 episodes. Even with the new dynamic of office work nowadays I don't think it will last more than 4 seasons.
@@bigrod1674 Yes I understand that, but what I'm saying is that when this version was originally pitched if everyone that liked the original had said "you shouldn't do a reboot because it's already been done and blahblahblah" then we wouldn't have got the show we did. Like I said, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't get a reboot, I don't massively care either way, like to me personally if they did reboot it and it was terrible it doesn't ruin the "original" reboot for me, I just wouldn't watch it.
I’m content with them leaving The Office alone. In fact, it’d seem a little redundant now given that there’s Abbott Elementary, which I’m hoping will continue.
Fun fact: The show Sanford and Son was a color swapped remake of a 1960s UK show. Episode 1 was nearly shot for shot. I know its off topic its just more interesting than another reboot for "modern audiences"
With the Frasier revival, I was so disappointed that none of the original cast (other than Kelsey Grammer) were going to be in the show. I wanted to see what Niles and Daphne were doing, was Roz living a happy life with her daughter Alice? I think the story is just focussing of Frasier and his son Freddy in Boston when I would have preferred it to still be set in Seattle.
If they reboot I hope it's a new office where only Creed is there hiding out under a new identity, and the first episode introduces a manager who has to fire someone and calls the oldest staff member, Creed in for him to be up to his old ways and conniving his way off the chopping block as always
I’ve said for a while, the only way I I’d wanna see a office “reboot” is if you take the Young Sheldon route and make a tv show about Michael Scott as a kid. You could even get Steve Carell to narrate it.
The office is the most rewatchable show ever it doesn’t need a reboot at all. I would love a sitcom about modern office life nowadays but don’t attach it to the office and make it a whole new thing
Wait, this isn’t a sequel to the original series? I don’t like when people misuse the word “reboot” when referring to what should be instead called a revival of a beloved series
Reboot wouldnt make sense, but i could envision a similar show that deals with people working in typical corporate jobs. Especially a show revolving around project work would have material for ages
The single reason why this won't work is because of the social/political climate of today. It's that simple. Steve Carrel himself has even said this. People get offended by comedy they don't like, and call for comedians to be cancelled because they think they're entitled to never be challenged or offended. Plenty of characters in The Office have offensive moments, particularly Michael. And even though he's portrayed as extremely ignorant, there's just no way any kind of decent, nuanced comedy gets greenlit with the extremely sanitized entertainment industry we're in now.
Eh. Plenty to be offended by if you care to be offended by it. I don't see why decent, nuanced comedy couldn't exist now. Especially created by big corporations. Individuals can get cancelled. Corps survive by being legion. There's no risk to them... unless the IRS gets involved, but that's a different story.
@@endlessforestmedia While I don't necessarily like the Big Bang, I do appreciate that they went "okay if one of these three actors leaves, the show's over." And then when the actor playing Sheldon wanted to leave, they ended it. Really shows how much they understood their own show and why people liked it.
I was looking for someone commenting this, you just wouldn't get away with some of the humour from The Office. The audience isn't trusted to know what's wrong and what's right anymore.
The premise for a workplace comedy with an all-new cast could work; like Brooklyn 99 and Super Store. But post-pandemic there are no "small offices". It's either a huge company or a home office. For example, a show about a UA-cam channel and their daily lives.
Office fans already annoy me somewhat and I can’t even begin to comprehend the potential meltdown this would cause, so I’ll also have to pass on this EVER being a thing
The only way I’d really love to see the original cast come back is maybe for a reunion special where the documentary crew comes back for a “where are they now” type thing.
The Office on a side note was an episodic program correct me if I’m wrong. So if it would be placed on a streaming service, they’d probably try to serialize it more than it was (if it wasn’t like that already). I’ve only seen clips of it, correct me if I’m wrong.
An Office reboot in 2023 would have micheal get canceled and make Kelly the manager, Pam the assistant to the manager and Jim the secretary and everyone would wonder why it wasn’t funny lol
Michael was non verbal in the finale because the show runners didn’t want his appearance to be leaked and found it. He also was willing to sign a new contract for more seasons but the network didn’t make one
I assumed he had such little of a role because there was nothing interesting for him to do. The finale is about giving an ending to the other characters (particularly Jim and Pam). Michael Scott already had an ending. The last two seasons were not about Michael. Having it suddenly become “the Michael Scott show” again for the finale would feel forced. What we got in the actual finale was probably close to the best you could hope for.
Your points from say 7:00 to 8:30 about doing something completely original and with no nostalgia callbacks is exactly right - and I don't see that happening in the current production environment of today's Hollywod - because the ability of contemporary writing rooms to tell good stories with character arcs as well as create original concepts/dialogue that 1) are not CW-level cringe and 2) don't rely on constantly referencing real-world politics or pushing divisive messaging (regardless of from which direction) is completely absent right now. There's going to be constant nostalgia baiting and probably rehashing of old jokes, and probably way too much of it.
I never understood the anti-reboot crowd. It's not like a reboot erases the original. In Britain you can still see the original Office. You can still see the original Karate Kid, the original Batman, Superman, MagnumP PI, etc. If a reboot doesn't work out, it gets cancelled. If it does, then there are now two, or more. Either way, no one will ever force you to watch a reboot. You would have to make that choice on your own.
IMO if there is any kind of reboot or new version of The Office, it needs to be brand new. New company, new location, new people, new tropes/caricatures. No ties to the original beyond the branding.
Oooof! So good to hear someone say it! The goliath that was Arrested Development was so damaged by the 4th and 5th seasons... The way they decimated Tobias' character by making his subtleties the only thing focussed on, and that's just one simple example so save myself from an essay on this comment. The 4th season definitely still had it's gems, but just didn't encapsulate the same feel and chemistry captured in the first 3.
Fortunately, there are a few winners like Better Call Saul, which succeeded not because of fan service but its mostly new characters and great storytelling.
The thing is that a reboot is utterly pointless. They can't replicate the success, and they can't do anything new with it (can they?). So it seems to be what it is - a cash grab built upon fandom.
@@Lily-rz8mg The movies are as definitive as we’re ever gonna get to those stories on the big screen, as there are only extremely loyal to the park with like nothing left out, the stuff they added on Feels very natural like it could’ve happened in the book and actually extends the book opposed to other book adaptations which leave things out, this adds things on :-) they should’ve just continued it, if only Iger Didn’t hate and just neglect Narnia. And either way, I personally find Barbie is overdone, not to mention that Greta is also running the live action Snow White……
It would be funny if they made the show completely unrelated but with the only commonality being Creed Bratton, who is going by a different name because he's on the run. He would be a minor character just like he was in the original show and there would be running gags of him hiding his face from the cameras and trying to limit the awareness his coworkers have of the other documentary he was in.
I love Greg Daniels, but I can't see how a rebooted Office, or King of the Hill, can possibly recapture what made them special in the first place. I'd rather see them try to get the Schrute's Farm spinoff or Monsignor Martinez spinoff off the ground again, at least those could bring something new to the table.
The format is incredibly flexible. Heck, we’ve already got another office based talking heads sitcom in Parks and Rec. Doing something new with the bare format can easily work, provided they actually create something worth watching.
Instead of bringing back old characters they should shift into a more modern type of company maybe like Jim’s sports company where they could use him as a character or instead of him playing an actual character they use him as a Segway to document that new company. They could make it seem like he was doing well enough to just focus on his family and end up moving to that house where he could sell kayaks and bikes. This way they have an excuse to start filming the new more “modern”company, introduce new characters, have the opportunity open to introduce old characters like Jim, or Darell, and also avoid the possibility of having to reuse the same jokes or redo the show again. I think it’s something worth trying because if it ends up being good we’ll all enjoy it and if it doesn’t it won’t really affect the reputation of the office because it’ll almost be a different show just inspired by the office.
I'm one of the weird ones that loves the show as whole. The comedy aspect of it started slipping after Michael left but I was so invested in the other characters that I enjoyed watching them grow and live their lives. Life throws you so many different challenges and your ideal view of life rarely happens. The Office didn't shy away from this aspect, which I loved. As much as I loved The Office it grew along with my life, leaving people I loved for better jobs, deciding between family and work, it was refreshing to see a sitcom show real problems and solutions. The Office, Parks and rec, 30 rock, Scrubs, and It's Always Sunny are some of the first TV shows that I bought hard copy's for and I still love watching them years later.
One thing I’d personally like, style Pete’s hair up and dye it dark so we can watch him as Michael Scott. Or hopefully dwight but he aged the worst out of all of them. An office setting selling something they could surely build a new cast and pay someone popular to act on the reboot. It’d be hard to top Dwight’s comedy character maybe bring him back to act the same. But there has been worse reboots for shows not needing them so this won’t hurt anything.
It could be funny if the only one still in the office was Creed. It’s a new office location, so he could have just escaped the cops. Don’t even have the character keep the name of Creed because that name was a fake one anyway.
There are some condition under which the reboot would actually work: 1)As you mention, place it in enviroment that is more of current office culture. New challenges, new stereotypes… 2) place it in same universe as us original. May sound weird but I would like see a mockumentary from world where another mockumentary already happened, which allows different aproach from cast. New “Jim” would be expected to be kind heart joker as our Jim and reflected as one while he would be just a narcisstic bully … stuff like that. Deconstruct the archetypes. Break the expectation. Play with it….
Michael doesn't speak in the finale very much as by Acting Union rules, he has to have very limited dialogue in order to not be listed in the cast. He didn't speak much so it could be a surprise at the end.
To think I almost breathed a sign of relief at never having to hear an Office reference again. I was in college in the 2010s and didn't watch so I felt like an alien sometimes
it would be cool if they changed the premise away from the "office" setting and into a more blue-collar role, like a team of maintenance men at a large factory or a plumbing company that traveled to do residential/commercial work. There arent a lot of people who get to see how these workers interact and it would be cool to have it recognized
I agree with you. When I heated they wanted to reboot The Office I could see them trying to pull the old cast and leave on Cameos. But Greg Daniels is someone that knows what’s he is doing, the Mockumentary format (when made properly) is a winning formula, and a view to the modern Office life would be interesting. Someone ask for it? No, but there’s potential for a good thing. Personally, gonna keep it open-minded and hope for the best. It’s not like we can stop them now anyway 🤷🏻♂️
I’ve been saying for a while now the only way an office reboot would work would be for it to be a ONE TIME movie OR a mock true crime docuseries on creeds crimes. Maybe a camera man saved a lot of evidence of Creeds crimes but wasn’t allowed to add the footage becuase it didn’t fit the vision or whatever, but now that the NDA is up, he can make it a whole series of it’s own? I just think that’s a different enough concept grounded in the character with the most unanswered questions, it could work!!
It’s funny you mentioned Star Trek. Strange New Worlds season one was a breath of fresh air in the nostalgia mines of the current era of Trek. Season two was full of good episodes, but they’ve begun to lean heavily on TOS characters making appearances. As well-done as, say, Montgomery Scott’s introduction is, I do get kinda tired of Lieutenant James T. Kirk showing up every other episode
My idea was to have a show called the warehouse. Times are tough at Dunder Mifflin, so the office staff are hard at work trying to keep or get new clients. The warehouse staff meanwhile has lots of down time for them to goof off. A total switch from before, and we would get occasional appearances from Dwight Angela and Erin. I think it could work with the right writing staff. What do you think?
If this show comes back I’ll try to watch it. I missed it when the office were releasing new seasons. Never watched comedy much and got bored by random camera interviews I turned until I laid in bed months before and after back surgery and became my favorite tv show.
Do you want to see another version of The Office?
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Michael Scott: No god please no no no Noooooooooooooooo
Honestly, I don't care. I would've been angry a few years ago, but this is just what I've come to expect from modern Western entertainment.
Obviously no but the character should be gave if they pick 1
This show is no longer fun under late stage capitalism
yes if it was made in 2014
Every time this kinda thing comes up, I always reiterate "Why remake something that worked well and is well remembered, when you could remake something that failed; yet had a spark of something"
Because then they’ll just use that to justify remaking shows that were hits the first time.
@@Attmay what? You're not making any sense
Using that logic the US version of the Office wouldn't exist, just the UK original.
Didn't everyone say the exact same thing when this show was remade from the British version ?
money
What we need is a gritty crime drama about what Creed was doing during the events of the office
I've often thought that "The Many Misadventures of Creed Bratton" would've been a much better spin off than "The Farm."
I was about to say the exact same thing.
a breaking bad cross over with Creed and Jesse Pinkman and Mike Ehrmantraut
Following his exploits as the Scranton Strangler
Yes
The Office already tried to reboot itself after Michael left. Don’t try it again.
The Office already is a reboot, of The Office (UK).
I think everyone knows that already
@MrCheeze The Office is a remake of the UK version, not a reboot
@@StonedCabbagethe only difference between a reboot and a US remake is the country they’re in
The Office didn't need to reboot itself after Michael left, as Michael was never the "heart" of the show. Although Steve Carell was initially the main star in the cast, over the years it was Jim and Pam who made The Office what it ultimately was.
The smartest way to go about this would be with a completely new cast and new office space right? Essentially make this next series where the film crew went after they were done at dunder Mifflin. Getaway do a shared universe where each different interpretation of the office is all being filmed by the same crew as they complete different documentaries
James Cameron walks into the pitch meeting and writes OFFICES on the whiteboard, and makes the S a $.
Parks and Rec
Exactly, so many overhead dead end businesses/industries to mine new comedy scenarios. Parka and Rec was genius to pick a govt bureaucracy.
And that's what it WOULD be.
So basically Parks and Rec?
The problem I see with all of these nostalgic reboots, is that we as fans do not want to invest the time in watching them when the current climate for television is to cancel shows when ratings or numbers are not immediately high.
Back in the 90s and early 2000s tv shows were given time to settle, and most were not cancelled immediately because word of mouth was important to get viewers to become invested.
Series like 3rd Rock From The Sun would have never survived today because the viewership when first launched was not super high. I can say I was a fan of the iCarly reboot but I never got super invested because I always had a feeling it would get cancelled prematurely, and the worst part is that since networks keep cancelling shows when they have cliffhanger endings; audiences are becoming distrustful of new releases and would just prefer to continue watching classic series that had complete endings.
Another problem with these Nostalgic reboots is people don’t realize they’ll never get that same experience they got from the orginal, no matter what they do. The cast grew up, people look different, Their character arcs are complete, there’s just nothing really left to tell in the story.
I remember Steve Carrell answer to a reboot years back was “The fans think they want us to come back but they don’t REALLY want us to come back, the time was specific and it was basically lightning in a bottle. The fans want that show exactly how it was to come back and there’s no way that would ever happen.”
@@sideeyed7682 that is why it sucks that Icarly specifically got canceled because the cast and crew cared about what they were doing and had at least one story left to tell, something that we've quietly wondered about since the original show. Carly's mom and what's worse is the studio gaslighting fans trying to act like they didn't absolutely screw them over.
Even then, good ratings don't immediately save you.
Bojack Horseman, by its 5th season, had become one of the most critically acclaimed TV shows of all time. The only reason it got a season 6 is because the creators and actors begged Netflix for one season to wrap up the story.
Bojack Horseman was cancelled.
One of, if not the most acclaimed animated TV show of all time ended up getting cancelled for pretty much no reason that I can find.
Other shows, it's a complete dice roll if they go anywhere.
The Simpsons is on its 1000th season.
Star Trek TNG is a great example of this, the first two season were rough, awful even, it didn't hit it's stride till about midway though the 3rd season, and then seasons 4-7 are some of the best television ever made. That show never would have made it past the 2nd season in todays climate.
Just make it a true sequel. The station hasn't had a hit since the first documentary so they find a new office, somewhere, and attempt to catch lightening twice. It can be played tongue and cheek since that's what NBC is doing with Peacock and this reboot. Let Daniels take it from there.
Yeah right?? And to appease all the hardcore fans, just throw in dumb Easter eggs - a grocery bag that says Shrute Farms, a news article about the Scranton Strangler being released from prison, Robert California is now the head of like a rocket company. Etc
The office is a reboot
Lets not do more office at all, honestly
@@skunkjo3195 Robert California as a Musk-like CEO would be AMAZING.
That’s not the flimsiest idea for a reboot I’ve ever heard. Many sequels to documentaries exist in real life. Even Michael “I’ll fight the power after my third crunchwrap” Moore made a follow-up to *Roger & Me* called *Pets or Meat.*
Considering that the US Office is already both a copy of the UK Office and exists in the same universe due to a crossover with David Brent, why can't there be yet another Office in a different part of the country? There doesn't even need to be a reboot. For the record, i'm utterly bored with the concept, but I'm not bothered by the idea either.
I mean, that's basically what Parks and Rec was. The same formula with a different "skin"
We need a Canadian Office
@@matthewsawczyn6592Actually it was meant to be a direct spin off with Rashida Jones as Karen, but that changed to just another show with a similar premise.
the problem is that most of the jokes on the office wouldn’t fly in todays climate, so it would be a completely neutered version of the office
There's actually an Indian version, but obviously not in English. and I don't know if any good, considering nobody talks about it.
Season 8 and 9 were already an example of what a reboot would look like
The Office didn't need to reboot itself after Michael left, as Michael was never the "heart" of the show. Although Steve Carell was initially the main star in the cast, over the years it was Jim and Pam who made The Office what it ultimately was.
@@JayBandersnatch he was the heart of the show and people try to cope that he isn't, Jim and Pam basically had their story mostly over after they had Cece
@@timothyngo The "Office Ladies",i.e. Jenna and Angela, would disagree, as they stated in their podcast that everyone thought Jim and Pam were the heart of the show.
@@JayBandersnatch ofc Jenna would say her own character was the heart of the show
@@GrandMasterNegro @xLASTOFMYKINDx the "driving force" behind the success and the "heart of the show" are two separate concepts. Yes, Steve Carell was the reason The Office was initially successful, but the story of Jim and Pam kept the show going.
"The Office Gave Its Real Main Character A Perfect Ending
BYCATHAL GUNNING
The Office seemed to center around Michael Scott, but the sitcom's perfect finale proved who its real main character was with an ideal conclusion."
I tried to post the link but YT auto deleted my comment. I'm sure if you googe the title of the article you'll find it.
if there is one tv show that needs a reboot the LEAST, it’s The Office.
Even if it’s funny it’s going to be perceived as a cash grab
Lol nooooo @ncbarrett4502 can’t you see that you’re the mark here! They know people will be like oh wow I like the office can’t be that bad! And watch enough of it to make them all money!
Not to be a meanie totally support you voicing my opinion! Looking for reasonable discussion here in spite of my hot take
Your damn right it’s be pc and suck ass
@@blakenielson1455I’m not saying your reply misunderstands the comment, but that’s how I read it. Can you explain what you mean?
They definitely shouldn’t reboot. But I wouldn’t mind a new show in the spirit and format of The Office and Parks and Rec set in a new environment with new characters and stories
The more I see Reboots, the more it makes me wish the Strike kept on going.
same, creative brainrot is rife within hollywood rn
If we get really lucky there'll be another strike soon, maybe not the same group involved but hopefully Hollyweird will get shutdown again.
The writers and actors aren't driving the dreaded reboots. The strike is not relevant to your concerns. Producers and network executives love to minimize risk by producing proven "winners." Familiar movies and shows from which they squeeze every last dollar out of Charlie's Angel's, Twilight Zone, Full House, etc.
If you wanted the strike to continue (however tongue-in-cheek you imagine your comment) you're way off the mark for the culprits of rebooting. I doubt that you felt that the strikers should've demanded an end to reboots.
I wish the strike lasted forever. Pedowood out of business?
Harsh… but true.
I've said it before, but THANK YOU for keeping your ads at the end of your video. It gives me a chance to look at the comments after the video while they play, and I don't get pissed off within ten seconds of starting your videos.
There’s also the case of The Office being one of the last TV shows to treat work as a collective “friends we meet along the way” experience. Nowadays most shows fall along Severance’s line of “how the workplace exploits capitalism for everyone’s misery but shareholders” vibes. At least by current generational critiques.
This should be the top comment.
I have worked in offices in the last 10 years. It is a fucking cold and sterile environment. Most of the people you work with, you would never take them out for beer and wings on their birthday much less attend their wedding.
There is no camaraderie . That shit is a fantasy as people are now more expendable then ever. You never know how long people will last. Why would you make friends with people you don’t expect to see next year?
And if you have WFH, or hybrid, you barely even interact with them aside from hearing their voice in a zoom call.
Also, identity politics and political wokeness has ruined relationships, so much so, that instead making friends and opening up to people, we feel like shutting ourselves from the world and keeping our real thoughts to ourselves lest we make enemies who try to cancel us.
@@rtothec1234 Yeah you had us until that last paragraph man…. So close.
That was the original thesis of the office UK
True, but that's just the Michael Schur style. Parks and Recreation made government systems inviting, Brooklyn 99 has been called copaganda and The Good Place caused hell to look pretty. This friendly nature is idealistic but the foundation that makes his shows hit. So if he was brought back on board I'd encourage it- it wouldn't be a Michael Schur show without that
@@rtothec1234we were with you until the end
Rebooted shows always seem to forget why they ended in the first place.
They also tend to forget what made the original so beloved in the first place as well and do the complete opposite of everything people actually liked about it.
The only reboot that has worked was Cobra Kai and that is only because there was huge potential for character development that hadn’t yet been established and because the writers had the good sense to create a bridge for the old movie characters to new characters that we care about.
This is gonna be a huge uphill battle and the scrutiny will be high.
correct
Schrutiny
I totally forgot about cobra kai
Uh...Cobra Kai sucks. It had some potential and then immediately turned into an angsty teenage drama. F.
It also wasn't a reboot. It was a continuation, or spin-off. Same characters and actors as in the original movies.
You know what show I wanna see? A new sci-fi series set in the Firefly universe, but *not* a remake.
A TNG to Firefly's TOS. Make it follow a space cruiseliner instead of a freighter. Have Mal or Jayne be a side character and fufill the Book role. Gimme something like that!
Or something similar with Babylon 5, another show they're trying to remake and really, *really* shouldn't be... Sure Crusade was dismal, but I still think a good Babylon 5 series is doable.
When auditions were happening Krasinski himself had told Greg Daniels (unknowingly) that he was worried about the American version because to him, the British version was too good and might be ruined.
The Office itself is already a reboot and nearly failed in its first season, we *really* shouldn’t get carried away.
The Jim/Pam love story is what drove the office for 6 seasons. The 7th season was coasting off of that. 8 and 9 were zombie seasons which, while they had some good comedy, lacked an overall drive pushing it forward.
The show sucked as soon as they got together in S4 and became an unassailable "aw how cute" purrfect couple
Maybe for some, but that relationship was NOT the sole driving force of the show.
If anyone was, it was Michael, and the show clearly went down when he left.
Even there, there was such a good cast and set of characters, they were able to keep it going after him.
The one character they could bring back and be really funny is Creed. Imagine if he just around and up to his old tricks again without addressing what happened to him between the office and the new one until like maybe the end when he gets arrested again. He could also bring up some of the crazy things that used to go on at his old job while getting names and details wrong as usual. Which would make the references more funny instead “DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THIS HAPPENED IN THAT SHOW YOU LIKE?”
He previously worked in a dog-food company ❤
Thats honestly an amazing idea XD It would make the references original and not preachy
I don't know if it's still planned or not, but I'm somewhat interested in the Australian version that's coming to Prime Video, because it feels like a good way to continue the story without relying on the fondness for the US show, like how the US show didn't rely on the fondness for the UK show.
My gut tells me that the bulk of the storyline will be the boss trying to find the perfect man and a bunch of COVID jokes but I'm definitely going to give it an open minded try.
It also doesn't help that the concept of office culture nowadays could probably be stretched thin. I could be wrong but I think in terms of comedic potential, I can picture two seasons at the MOST for a show like this.
But yeah, this will either be decent or crash and burn. This will either age like wine or milk.
I would fucking love it if it starts as a cohesive office, then it just follows those employees as they hit redundancies, buyouts and divisions, working from home, getting bought again and more firings, over and over until almost no one is working together anymore.
I am not even joking but the only revival or reboot I have actually liked is Icarly and that was just canceled abruptly a few days ago completely ignoring the cliffhanger of her Mom. What is most frustrating about this specific cancellation is that the cast and crew were not expecting it and had very obviously planned to explore Carly’s mother as a fourth season storyline. Icarly was just nostalgic enough without feeling like the ‘adult’ aspect was unnatural or forced.
It just goes to show that no matter how popular or successful studios will never keep these things longer than three years.
I do not see Fraiser or the office working at all, and I'm not going to let myself get reinvested just to hear that they are also canceled in three years.
As a huge fan of the original show, i absolutely love the iCarly revival, it's a shame that they cancelled the show abruptly with a cliffhanger. That show is an example how to done a revival of a kids show in the right way for the older audiences who grew up watching the original, something that the Lizze McGuire revival should've take notes
@@Erasureeraser I know I love that it was different from the original but still respected it. I'm hoping that even if it takes a few years there is a wrap-up movie or special, it seriously feels like the studio is taking the phrase “leave them wanting more” very literally.
I only watched a couple of episodes of the Revival. As a fan of the OG, I could not keep watching the new stuff. Should I stick it out?
@@FenixReZ if what you loved about the original was the random = funny sketches then the revival probably isn't for you, but if you liked the characters and the situations that they got themselves into then it's definitely worth watching.
@@joshz2491 I would say the sketches put the characters in very interesting situations which brought out traits and reasons to why I like them so much. I haven’t watched the revival in awhile but the first few episodes didn’t feel the same to me in terms of writing and payoff
An Office reboot makes as much sense as eating spaghetti with a spoon
Unfortunately, I know someone who likes to eat spaghetti with a spoon 😭
Yeah, not the best analogy bud. In other parts of the world (everywhere but the US, and prob UK), it’s customary to use a spoon when eating spaghetti. I’ve tried it and it’s really useful. It’s like a little handheld dish used to control the noodles as you spin your fork around. Keeps sauce from flying everywhere and maintains a nice, tight swirl of noodle.
Might I suggest:
…makes as much sense as unscented perfume.
…makes as much sense as black sunscreen.
…makes as much sense as peanut flavored Nutella.
@@Devil-Made Yeah, not the best analogy bud. In other parts of the world (everywhere but the US, and prob UK), it’s customary to combine nutella and peanutbother when wanting the best of both worlds. I’ve tried it and it’s really tasty. Keeps things interesting and varied and maintains a nice, tight balance of both flavours.
@@Devil-Made Nah spaghetti with a spoon works just fine. Don't overcomplicate things.
You know a culture is dying when all it has is nostalgia.
Theres always fascism!
@@MLBlue30
Don't worry, that's coming very soon as a means to "save us" from Progressive Liberal Marxism and to "Make America Great Again". This will happen after DJT returns to the White House and will be spearheaded by the Roman Catholic Church.
Look up Public Law One 0 Two dash 1 Four and "The Seven Laws of Noah".
Those two things tie in with the following:
What is the “7 Mountains Mandate” (Dominionism/Dominion Theology)? Supposedly there are 7 “mountains” of global society-Arts and Entertainment, Education, Economy, Family, Government and Military, Media and Religion. (Note: The US voting machines are called “Dominion”.) According to this false teaching, by conquering these 7 “mountains”, the Kingdom of God will be established.
Hegelian Dialectic: Problem, Reaction, Solution
Liberals are creating social division (in the name of diversity and inclusion), and we are experiencing the second recession of the century under yet another Liberal Democrat President. Our morals, values and ethics have diminished under the influence of Liberalism.
Reaction: We need a leader who will turn things back around, restore the economy and our values to Make America Great Again.
Solution: The US Public Law containing the Seven Laws of Noah which will enforce religious laws and be used to remove Liberals from the seven mountains of society.
Everything is nostalgia. Star Wars was nostalgia for the old pulp adventures. The difference is that Star Wars did something new with the source material, using the nostalgia in a way that appealed to new audiences. Hell even the Bible has a quote "Nothing new under the sun."
@@MLBlue30 Fascism is the epitome of said rot, made manifest.
acting like nothing has come out culturally since the office is pretty silly
there's plenty of good shows on streaming platforms, just unfortunate they get cancelled so often due to corporate greed
More and more its like the entertainment industry has forgotten that new ideas exist.
if they do bring back the original cast I hope they have a "where are they now" type mini-series. The characters all went their own way at the end of the series so I feel like it's the only format that could work. If they do reboot/remake the series it probably won't last more than a few seasons.
I agree with all of this, except S.4 & 5 of Arrested Development. After rewatching it years after it coming out, I LOVED IT! They can’t compare to 1, 2, and 3, but not because they are bad or lower quality at all, but just because it is different. I know it’s an unpopular opinion though.
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I would love a show EXCLUSIVELY about Creed and his backstory. That would just be awesome.
Actually knowing what his character is up to would take almost all the humor out of him...
Nah. What made him so funny and interesting is that we knew next to nothing about him, so each reveal about his character always came as a WTF??? surprise. His whole character is this guy no one quite knows or understands.
Everybody knows that spin-offs are an infinitely cooler idea than reboots or revivals.
They got super lucky with the US office. Most US reboots of British shows crash and burn in spectacular fashion.
I haven't seen "The Office," but I gotta say, your thoughts on a potential reboot echo a lot of my thoughts on the upcoming "Fraiser" revival. I'm cautiously optimistic, but the more pragmatic side of me says there's no way it'll capture the zeitgeist like the original did if only because "Fraiser" was already an unlikely success, and it's hard to make lightning strike twice (or three times if you wanna count "Cheers," too).
Also, the TV landscape has changed so much in the past two decades. Even if it turns out to be hilarious, it's hard for me to be hopeful that it'll run for more than two seasons unless it's a smash hit for Paramount+ right out of the gate. I am thankful they're surrounding Kelsey Grammer with an entirely new main cast, though. No one seems to be saying it, but I feel doing that was a boon to the OG show from the beginning, and probably the smartest move the reboot is making right now.
No one wants to watch Fraiser with no Niles
The big problem with the Frasier reboot is that Marty won't be there :(
Star Trek TNG did have Diana Muldar, who played two different characters in TOS, come in for season 2 as Pulaski. But I’d argue that neither of her characters were important or beloved enough for that to be nostalgia bait, she was likely hired because she just had experience already
Speaking of the Christmas special, I finally found it in a second-hand store in the other end of my home country on my Summer holiday this year. I'll never forgive the people behind it for not just tacking it onto the Series 2 DVD, leading me on a 3 year hunt for the third DVD. Especially since it's the original Office's actual show finale, unlike every other show's Christmas special.
The shout out to @nerdsync is so dope! I love Scott and his videos!
Really enjoyed this one. I really don't know how they would do a reboot of the office and I don't think I want one either. Doesn't seem like it's appropriate or like it would work. I don't envy anyone in the position of trying to figure all that out
They already stretched it too thin with 9 seasons as it is. What else could they possibly do with this premise, beyond one or two obligatory "work from home amiright millennials?" gags. The show wasnt even good post-S3 in the original run.
WAIT A MINUTE?!?!? THE OFFICE ACTUALLY IS GETTING A REBOOT?!?!?
NO GOD! NO GOD PLEASE NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-
Your point with TNG is right on the money. The same happened with the first season of the "Justice League" cartoon. VERY few cameos from characters who had previously appeared in other DCAU shows, save for The Joker and Lex Luthor being big ones. It didn't lean on older continuity until it had established itself as its own thing firmly, then season 2 brought it some other favorite characters from Batman TAS and Superman TAS. This Office reboot should do the same, totally agree.
See...
JL before JLU (Twilight/Starcrossed are the exceptions) is in incredibly fucking dull to me and really diminishes most of the characters by, natch, making it mostly the Batman and friends show. Which is why both Twilight and Starcrossed stand out by NOT being Batman and his hangers on, but showcasing these characters in their glory.
If they are going to reboot it, they should do it with Bob Odenkirk's character that is basically Michael Scott in those 2 season 9 episodes. I think that character could work. Also, get Michael Weston to be a part of the cast. He was in those episodes and he was also Private Dancer on SCRUBS.
It's hard to imagine The Office coming back with the same (or most) of the case, but it seems harder to imagine a new cast. I think it's possible with good writers - whichever option they choose - because the comedy of The Office was built around the perspective of awkward office interactions. That hasn't gone anywhere, so if they can write unique situations in it and build new character interactions, they'll have something people are willing to watch.
The office is a reboot of the UK one
i genuinely think it can work very well as long as they focus on the mockumentary format - talking heads are good and i think audiences miss them! look how well received abbot elementary is! all new characters but we are aware there is a camera crew - maybe a new city and state? there’s some real opportunity here and i’m choosing to stay optimistic until i’m convinced otherwise
A vast majority of the jokes told in the TV series The Office? Couldn’t be uttered these days or risk having the actors cancelled. I don’t think this is a good idea. Lmao
You forgot That 90’s Show in the list of bad continuations
There’s just so many now :(
@@captainmidnight all good it’s not like the show is memorable
I feel like That 90s Show is a good example of a lazy sitcom purely coasting on nostalgia for the original series.
Uninteresting characters and bad acting purely held up by brief cameos of the original cast.
This is going to be an uphill battle because there’s already a comedy in a current office setting, Mythic Quest
You know what pisses me off the most…
During the pandemic, Rainn Wilson thought of the concept of adapting it into a revival first. Why not just do that?
What is the difference
I don’t even understand… how if its not the cast it’s just another workplace sitcom… the cast is the office
I'm not worried because it will get one season and disappear forever.
I'm not saying it would or wouldn't be a good idea to reboot the show but I love how adamant everyone is that a reboot would be awful despite the show itself already being a reboot of the UK version, like imagine if they hadn't made that because people were whining at just the idea of a reboot of the original version, we wouldn't have this show to not want to be rebooted in the first place.
Like he said in the video the original office was only one season. The reboot is off of 200 episodes. Even with the new dynamic of office work nowadays I don't think it will last more than 4 seasons.
@@bigrod1674 Yes I understand that, but what I'm saying is that when this version was originally pitched if everyone that liked the original had said "you shouldn't do a reboot because it's already been done and blahblahblah" then we wouldn't have got the show we did. Like I said, I'm not saying it should or shouldn't get a reboot, I don't massively care either way, like to me personally if they did reboot it and it was terrible it doesn't ruin the "original" reboot for me, I just wouldn't watch it.
Hear hear !
I love the Scott shoutout. Nerdsync has been one of my favourite channels for years now
I’m content with them leaving The Office alone. In fact, it’d seem a little redundant now given that there’s Abbott Elementary, which I’m hoping will continue.
Fun fact:
The show Sanford and Son was a color swapped remake of a 1960s UK show. Episode 1 was nearly shot for shot.
I know its off topic its just more interesting than another reboot for "modern audiences"
Pretty much the same thing happened with Red Dwarf and The IT Crowd. Neither made it past the atrocious pilot.
With the Frasier revival, I was so disappointed that none of the original cast (other than Kelsey Grammer) were going to be in the show. I wanted to see what Niles and Daphne were doing, was Roz living a happy life with her daughter Alice? I think the story is just focussing of Frasier and his son Freddy in Boston when I would have preferred it to still be set in Seattle.
Maybe they are saving it for later if the show has legs.
@@rtothec1234 I hope that they do
David Hyde Pierce isn't interested in returning as Niles
If they reboot I hope it's a new office where only Creed is there hiding out under a new identity, and the first episode introduces a manager who has to fire someone and calls the oldest staff member, Creed in for him to be up to his old ways and conniving his way off the chopping block as always
I’ve said for a while, the only way I I’d wanna see a office “reboot” is if you take the Young Sheldon route and make a tv show about Michael Scott as a kid. You could even get Steve Carell to narrate it.
What would have been great was a one time Zoom meeting “episode” of The Office during the pandemic. But that’s literally it.
Steve Carell literally said it wouldn’t be a good idea, lol
The office is the most rewatchable show ever it doesn’t need a reboot at all. I would love a sitcom about modern office life nowadays but don’t attach it to the office and make it a whole new thing
Wait, this isn’t a sequel to the original series? I don’t like when people misuse the word “reboot” when referring to what should be instead called a revival of a beloved series
Reboot wouldnt make sense, but i could envision a similar show that deals with people working in typical corporate jobs. Especially a show revolving around project work would have material for ages
The single reason why this won't work is because of the social/political climate of today. It's that simple. Steve Carrel himself has even said this.
People get offended by comedy they don't like, and call for comedians to be cancelled because they think they're entitled to never be challenged or offended.
Plenty of characters in The Office have offensive moments, particularly Michael. And even though he's portrayed as extremely ignorant, there's just no way any kind of decent, nuanced comedy gets greenlit with the extremely sanitized entertainment industry we're in now.
Eh. Plenty to be offended by if you care to be offended by it. I don't see why decent, nuanced comedy couldn't exist now. Especially created by big corporations. Individuals can get cancelled. Corps survive by being legion. There's no risk to them... unless the IRS gets involved, but that's a different story.
@@endlessforestmedia While I don't necessarily like the Big Bang, I do appreciate that they went "okay if one of these three actors leaves, the show's over." And then when the actor playing Sheldon wanted to leave, they ended it. Really shows how much they understood their own show and why people liked it.
I was looking for someone commenting this, you just wouldn't get away with some of the humour from The Office. The audience isn't trusted to know what's wrong and what's right anymore.
The premise for a workplace comedy with an all-new cast could work; like Brooklyn 99 and Super Store. But post-pandemic there are no "small offices". It's either a huge company or a home office. For example, a show about a UA-cam channel and their daily lives.
Office fans already annoy me somewhat and I can’t even begin to comprehend the potential meltdown this would cause, so I’ll also have to pass on this EVER being a thing
The only way I’d really love to see the original cast come back is maybe for a reunion special where the documentary crew comes back for a “where are they now” type thing.
That was the finale in a way. Just not that far out in the future.
@@rtothec1234 yeah, I know but now it’s actually been over 10 years.
The Office on a side note was an episodic program correct me if I’m wrong.
So if it would be placed on a streaming service, they’d probably try to serialize it more than it was (if it wasn’t like that already).
I’ve only seen clips of it, correct me if I’m wrong.
I get rebooting a show after 30 or so years but it has only been like 10 years...
An Office reboot in 2023 would have micheal get canceled and make Kelly the manager, Pam the assistant to the manager and Jim the secretary and everyone would wonder why it wasn’t funny lol
The [Michael Scott NO Gif] is the perfect reaction to an The Office Reboot happening.
with how everybody is sensitive nowadays and studios trying to please everyone the office reboot just won’t hit the same way.
Michael was non verbal in the finale because the show runners didn’t want his appearance to be leaked and found it. He also was willing to sign a new contract for more seasons but the network didn’t make one
I assumed he had such little of a role because there was nothing interesting for him to do. The finale is about giving an ending to the other characters (particularly Jim and Pam). Michael Scott already had an ending. The last two seasons were not about Michael. Having it suddenly become “the Michael Scott show” again for the finale would feel forced. What we got in the actual finale was probably close to the best you could hope for.
Your points from say 7:00 to 8:30 about doing something completely original and with no nostalgia callbacks is exactly right - and I don't see that happening in the current production environment of today's Hollywod - because the ability of contemporary writing rooms to tell good stories with character arcs as well as create original concepts/dialogue that 1) are not CW-level cringe and 2) don't rely on constantly referencing real-world politics or pushing divisive messaging (regardless of from which direction) is completely absent right now. There's going to be constant nostalgia baiting and probably rehashing of old jokes, and probably way too much of it.
I'm doubtful Peacock will still exist by the time they are ready to bring The Office back 😆
I never understood the anti-reboot crowd. It's not like a reboot erases the original. In Britain you can still see the original Office. You can still see the original Karate Kid, the original Batman, Superman, MagnumP PI, etc.
If a reboot doesn't work out, it gets cancelled. If it does, then there are now two, or more.
Either way, no one will ever force you to watch a reboot. You would have to make that choice on your own.
You're making too much sense.
IMO if there is any kind of reboot or new version of The Office, it needs to be brand new. New company, new location, new people, new tropes/caricatures. No ties to the original beyond the branding.
Oooof! So good to hear someone say it! The goliath that was Arrested Development was so damaged by the 4th and 5th seasons... The way they decimated Tobias' character by making his subtleties the only thing focussed on, and that's just one simple example so save myself from an essay on this comment. The 4th season definitely still had it's gems, but just didn't encapsulate the same feel and chemistry captured in the first 3.
Fortunately, there are a few winners like Better Call Saul, which succeeded not because of fan service but its mostly new characters and great storytelling.
The thing is that a reboot is utterly pointless. They can't replicate the success, and they can't do anything new with it (can they?). So it seems to be what it is - a cash grab built upon fandom.
Same with the Harry Potter and even Percy Jackson and Narnia TV reboots
@@Lily-rz8mg The movies are as definitive as we’re ever gonna get to those stories on the big screen, as there are only extremely loyal to the park with like nothing left out, the stuff they added on Feels very natural like it could’ve happened in the book and actually extends the book opposed to other book adaptations which leave things out, this adds things on :-) they should’ve just continued it, if only Iger Didn’t hate and just neglect Narnia. And either way, I personally find Barbie is overdone, not to mention that Greta is also running the live action Snow White……
It would be funny if they made the show completely unrelated but with the only commonality being Creed Bratton, who is going by a different name because he's on the run. He would be a minor character just like he was in the original show and there would be running gags of him hiding his face from the cameras and trying to limit the awareness his coworkers have of the other documentary he was in.
I love Greg Daniels, but I can't see how a rebooted Office, or King of the Hill, can possibly recapture what made them special in the first place. I'd rather see them try to get the Schrute's Farm spinoff or Monsignor Martinez spinoff off the ground again, at least those could bring something new to the table.
The format is incredibly flexible. Heck, we’ve already got another office based talking heads sitcom in Parks and Rec.
Doing something new with the bare format can easily work, provided they actually create something worth watching.
Instead of bringing back old characters they should shift into a more modern type of company maybe like Jim’s sports company where they could use him as a character or instead of him playing an actual character they use him as a Segway to document that new company. They could make it seem like he was doing well enough to just focus on his family and end up moving to that house where he could sell kayaks and bikes. This way they have an excuse to start filming the new more “modern”company, introduce new characters, have the opportunity open to introduce old characters like Jim, or Darell, and also avoid the possibility of having to reuse the same jokes or redo the show again. I think it’s something worth trying because if it ends up being good we’ll all enjoy it and if it doesn’t it won’t really affect the reputation of the office because it’ll almost be a different show just inspired by the office.
I'm one of the weird ones that loves the show as whole. The comedy aspect of it started slipping after Michael left but I was so invested in the other characters that I enjoyed watching them grow and live their lives. Life throws you so many different challenges and your ideal view of life rarely happens. The Office didn't shy away from this aspect, which I loved. As much as I loved The Office it grew along with my life, leaving people I loved for better jobs, deciding between family and work, it was refreshing to see a sitcom show real problems and solutions. The Office, Parks and rec, 30 rock, Scrubs, and It's Always Sunny are some of the first TV shows that I bought hard copy's for and I still love watching them years later.
As a person with a brain no but as a person that has seen the office 30 times I NEED IT
But you must understand, the heavily restricted social media managers of the future will need Office reaction gifs to sell their products
How bout come up with something new that doesn’t suck? Oh wait Hollywood lost its ability to do that.
One thing I’d personally like, style Pete’s hair up and dye it dark so we can watch him as Michael Scott. Or hopefully dwight but he aged the worst out of all of them. An office setting selling something they could surely build a new cast and pay someone popular to act on the reboot. It’d be hard to top Dwight’s comedy character maybe bring him back to act the same. But there has been worse reboots for shows not needing them so this won’t hurt anything.
It could be funny if the only one still in the office was Creed. It’s a new office location, so he could have just escaped the cops. Don’t even have the character keep the name of Creed because that name was a fake one anyway.
There are some condition under which the reboot would actually work:
1)As you mention, place it in enviroment that is more of current office culture. New challenges, new stereotypes…
2) place it in same universe as us original. May sound weird but I would like see a mockumentary from world where another mockumentary already happened, which allows different aproach from cast. New “Jim” would be expected to be kind heart joker as our Jim and reflected as one while he would be just a narcisstic bully … stuff like that. Deconstruct the archetypes. Break the expectation. Play with it….
There are already so many homages to The Office, that it seems like there's been a million sequels. It's literally become a type of show format
there’s also a lot more scranton memes to work with😂
Most likely this reboot/continuation is going to be a tech company coming back from remote work, with maybe Ryan&Kelly or Dwight making cameos
Michael doesn't speak in the finale very much as by Acting Union rules, he has to have very limited dialogue in order to not be listed in the cast. He didn't speak much so it could be a surprise at the end.
To think I almost breathed a sign of relief at never having to hear an Office reference again. I was in college in the 2010s and didn't watch so I felt like an alien sometimes
it would be cool if they changed the premise away from the "office" setting and into a more blue-collar role, like a team of maintenance men at a large factory or a plumbing company that traveled to do residential/commercial work. There arent a lot of people who get to see how these workers interact and it would be cool to have it recognized
I agree with you. When I heated they wanted to reboot The Office I could see them trying to pull the old cast and leave on Cameos. But Greg Daniels is someone that knows what’s he is doing, the Mockumentary format (when made properly) is a winning formula, and a view to the modern Office life would be interesting. Someone ask for it? No, but there’s potential for a good thing. Personally, gonna keep it open-minded and hope for the best. It’s not like we can stop them now anyway 🤷🏻♂️
Ok but if Creed got his own spinoff with an entirely new set of characters otherwise that would actually go so hard
I’ve been saying for a while now the only way an office reboot would work would be for it to be a ONE TIME movie OR a mock true crime docuseries on creeds crimes. Maybe a camera man saved a lot of evidence of Creeds crimes but wasn’t allowed to add the footage becuase it didn’t fit the vision or whatever, but now that the NDA is up, he can make it a whole series of it’s own? I just think that’s a different enough concept grounded in the character with the most unanswered questions, it could work!!
It’s funny you mentioned Star Trek. Strange New Worlds season one was a breath of fresh air in the nostalgia mines of the current era of Trek. Season two was full of good episodes, but they’ve begun to lean heavily on TOS characters making appearances. As well-done as, say, Montgomery Scott’s introduction is, I do get kinda tired of Lieutenant James T. Kirk showing up every other episode
My idea was to have a show called the warehouse. Times are tough at Dunder Mifflin, so the office staff are hard at work trying to keep or get new clients. The warehouse staff meanwhile has lots of down time for them to goof off. A total switch from before, and we would get occasional appearances from Dwight Angela and Erin. I think it could work with the right writing staff. What do you think?
If this show comes back I’ll try to watch it. I missed it when the office were releasing new seasons. Never watched comedy much and got bored by random camera interviews I turned until I laid in bed months before and after back surgery and became my favorite tv show.